@@johncramer9564 Clips are good, but take up space and weight, every ounce counts. Better to use what nature provides, bit of wood or rocks to make a toggle for a rope loop.
Many times I have used a plastic shelter. I remember one spring grizzly bear hunt in Alaska my dad and I spent a week in a plastic shelter. We didn’t have the clips like you have. We used button balls for tie downs. They were a keyhole shaped metal ring with a rubber ball that you could hold the plastic with. We used 6 mill plastic and we had line and cut poles to fashion the shelter. We cooked inside it and slept there the whole trip. Back then we didn’t have a lot of options for backpacking tents except for expensive drawtight mountain tents. We were way too poor to afford that. We stayed very comfortable in that shelter for a week. We didn’t get a bear but we saw some and spent a great week in the wilderness. Now I can afford good tents and gear but that trip was one of the most memorable in my life. Thanks for bringing back great memories.
I’ve carried a drop cloth in my vehicles for years. Tons of uses; covering something your hauling, cover for changing a tire in the rain, floor cover for something dirty in a suv, and on and on.
Thank you for the hard work you put into all of your videos. I find my go to shelter is a 10x10 tarp with a 5x7 ground cloth sprayed with permetherin. In the summer I add a bug net and in the winter I add a heavy duty Mylar blanket. Happy New Year looking forward to more adventure in 2022.
@@paulblackburn4245 I like gear that works regardless of the cost so I make alot of my own stuff for the bug net I use window shears from walmart. Just sew 2 of the together add a shock cord at the hem full bug protection. I add a couple of pieces of webbing at the top to hang on the ridge line. The ground cloth is a 4 dollar seal nylon tarp with grommets. Got it a walmart I stake it down so it doesn't move at night. Spray the nylon side with permetherin for bug protection. I have 20 bucks in the hole thing and it will last me a couple of years before I replace it.
I've actually done this in real life. About 40 years ago, I was serving in a Canadian Army reserve combat arms unit. One weekend, in early March, we went out to a conservation area to do our Winter Indoctrination training. On the Friday evening that both squadrons of my regiment left their respective armouries, it was bitterly cold and quite windy. At the conservation area, we were supposed to meet a group from the base supply section of a nearby Regular Force base and receive canvas bell tents. The bell tents weren't something that reserve units would typically hold in their quartermaster stores, so they had to be requisitioned. After we got there, the base supply trucks failed to show up. One of the senior officers of the regiment attempted to reach the base supply section to find out what was going on, but was unable to get through to the duty officer. So, rather than wait any longer, the officers and a couple of senior NCOs went to a local Canadian Tire store to get all the thick vapour barrier they could get, lots of rope and duct tape. We made 'A'-frame type shelters using the vapour barrier and rope, and sealed off both ends of the shelters with duct tape. I don't remember how we managed to secure the bottoms of the A-frame shelters to the ground to prevent the wind from lofting up the walls of the shelter and getting inside. We were then given instructions to sleep in our arctic sleeping bags fully clothed, and wear watch caps on our heads to minimize heat loss. All of us were wearing long underwear, combat shirts and pants and over the shirts, arctic combat parkas. We had air mattresses to prevent heat loss through the ground. Even with all that, it was still a fairly cold night, but I slept OK. The bell tents that we were looking for didn't arrive until the following morning. Nevertheless, we learned that in a pinch, vapour barrier or plastic sheeting could be used as shelter in an emergency provided you had an air mattress or some other similar insulating kind of mattress, a warm sleeping bag and warm clothing.
Regular Army here. We used our rain poncho to make a shelter as part of training...and sleeping fully clothed is a rookie mistake even Scouts know. Great story though.
@@linebrunelle1004 In the reserve unit I served in, our ponchos had a dual purpose. Not only did they serve as protection from the rain, but they also had snaps so that two ponchos could be snapped together to form an A-frame shelter that could be hung on a rope, and grommets so they could be tied down like a tent. When I did the field portion of my basic training (mostly consisting of basic infantry section tactics and learning how to set up defensive positions) in the summer of 1979, that's what we slept under. We were lucky that the weather was excellent and rain-free. Today, reservists in the Canadian Army actually get real tents!
I have a small zipper pouch I labelled "utility" where I have those very tarp clips and the bungee balls that I got at Harbor Freight. They work great. I keep duct tape, ripstop adhesive para shoot repair material to repair my tents and a lot of other doodads in there. Another great video. Thanks
I always carry a 10' x20' sheet in my packs. Pick 'em up at most hardware stores for a few bucks. Lightweight, takes little space, and keeping dry is often critical. Plus it can be used in.many other ways.. The thing you never thought you needed, but are sure glad you got it tonite!
Absolutely love your channel! I was brought up the same way! Poor and can't afford real camping equipment! Used plastic, ponchos and debre shelters! Had lots of fun doing it! Those plastic clips are awesome! Been using them for many years! I hammock camp now and still use them! One of the best little gadgets!
I have used clips like those for 16 years. They are super for providing additional tie-off points to a tarp setup. Very cool video Luke. Enjoyed it as always.
Try to useing silicone grease on the nut threads on the tarp clips, they will work better, get tighter and least longer, and will not lock up to where you can't remove the nut to loosen them with out breaking them, yep I learned that the hard way :)
The clips very workable but in low low temp with repeat use , as we also played with a tarps those clamp / clips can snap so we even tried office supply metal clips just for fun too . Thank you for reminding me of the FUN
I love this video. I've got a tarp and a rolled plastic drop cloth in my get home bag in the car. I'm glad to see the plastic works, but most of all, I'm hunting down those clips! I can think of a thousand uses for them! Thanks so much!
I liked how he expresses that, you are NOT going to sleep like a baby in a survival situation. its about staying alive not sleep. Worse case, you wrap yourself like a plastic burrito, and sit under a tree till morning, Your going to sweat, but you will survive.
Sometimes little old ladies don’t see well at night. Sometimes old folks have cataracts, not so bad that they can’t see well enough to drive, but enough to make night driving difficult. She may have hanging on to you for her safety, hoping that you would go her way, hoping she could follow you to safety, maybe her home. Tolerance and patience are excellent foundation stones for an honorable character. Strength and Honor. Texas
Then she shouldn't be driving at all. Old age doesn't entitle her to risk other people; to injure, permanently cripple, or kill them. Someone being as dangerous on the road is not something anyone should tolerate.
I liked your demonstation of the usefulness of a sheet of plastic as a sheltering option. When I first started tent camping, during Boy Scout outings with my son's troop, I used a roll of Walmart purchased plastic as rain protection over my tent. It worked like a champ. I stayed dry during heavy downpours that soaked other campers' tents. I also have a set of the same tarp clips you used in this adventure. I love mine and they are a regular part of my tarp/tent camping kit. I really enjoyed seeing you show their effectiveness. I'm still not happy to see you beating down the windsock prooduct. My understanding from other commenters and from other RUclips demonstrations of the product is it is a tool frequently used by skiers and hikers in mountainous wind/snow conditions. It is not a substitute for a tent. As far as I can tell, it's a highly regarded product in Europe. You and your wife are so good at showing people the beauty and challenges of camping. You are entertaining and witty during product reviews. You interweave good folksy stories of family and growing up in your reviews. I believe that is why so many of us tune in whenever you post a new video/review. Please stay on the positive side and don't give up that high ground when approaching camping tools and products. Remember, "One person's junk is another person's treasure."
So you want him to lie? He didn't like the product. He wasn't profane or, make multiple videos to talk down the product. Other peoples usage may vary but, the product failed in his video. I feel he "told it like it was".
Reminds me of cold days in my doghouse blind, deerhunting. Have done lots of squats waiting for some hunting action! I'm a blacksmith. I agree that we do make jewelry, I enjoy using horseshoe nails for that, but I also make other, larger items. Our teenage son wanted to start-his first forge was the lid to a broken bbq, and his anvil was a railroad plate. Things progressed, nice to have more than one hammer, and I enjoy our propane forge as well as our coal forge. Our son, now serving overseas in the military, taught me how to forge, and I promised him I would keep it lit and his smithing business going until he comes home. So, I hope you pick the hammer back up, light the forge, and heat some metal!! Thank you for your beautiful videos that make me feel like I'm outside, even when I'm not😊
I have always had a piece of plastic when camping, The old man taught me to use it as a shelter, ground protection, slide down a snow covered hillside, carry firewood, extend a rain fly... So many uses!
Makes good sense. I've read/seen info from survival instructors that advocate heavy clear plastic for it's versatility. If having to hunker down for hours/days, natural light is a great asset to "mental health", easier to "stay put" vs. aimless wandering etc. And if using any source of light inside after dark, it'd be as visible as possible to rescue/search teams. And of course, the option of using it to make some sort of "super shelter" adds further to versatility of clear plastic. Impressed with those plastic clips, especially for that price! :D Did you order them, or find them in your local area?
@@linebrunelle1004 We don't have Dollarama but do have Dollar Tree. I just checked their website. They have 82 different clips, none of them for tarps.
Luke we both had the same sort of childhood as far as using what we had to surv ive including building shelters out of natural materials and building shelters out of plastic sheet.I am a bit older than you at 57 years old and for light i used one of those red kerosene lantern with the cloth wicks and for some reason i love the smell of them burning in the lantern so i can really relate to what you are saying and just watching your videos brings back good memories.
You're a type 2 fun fan, much like I am! The more challenging, difficult, and yes, even miserable a trip is, the more I love it! First discovered the joys of type 2 fun while doing long runs when I was trying to get fit - it was super tough, my feet hurt, my legs ached, I was out in the wind and the rain and the cold - but I LOVED it! Never looked back!
I've found a mattress protection bag, which comes in a variety of sizes as you might expect, and comes in different thicknesses, to be an excellent emergency shelter much like the old orange tube tents but with the one open end. Think giant waterproof (and condensation holding) bag, but with enough length that you can prop the end open and be secure further back. Very inexpensive for a set of three! With the right venting, this is a very effective enclosure against the wind and weather.
We used plastic sheet drop cloths and clips on backpacking trips in the Adirondacks as a Boy Scout in the 70’s. After my Dad passed I found the bag of clips we had used. He was one of the Scoutmasters in my troop. Thanks for the video. I trip down memory lane for me too.
Like those clips. Spent 2 weeks in NM taking a blacksmithing class. Made a towel bar, towel ring, TP holder and a wicked hot dog/marshmallow roaster. Spent another week a few years later on a silversmithing class. Good times. Cool skills.
Hi I really like this channel I sold my house when I was 27 bought 22 acres of property farther down the road bought a camper got tired of staying in it sold it started sleeping under the stars with a tarp on the ground nylon sleeping pad and a large piece of clear plastic covering me up just work to stay warm gathering firewood moving wherever you want I lived sleeping under the stars like that for about 7 years I could sleep really well in rain or snow on the ground just pack it away in a garage can and roll it anywhere you want now I live in a nice house with 2 ponds overlooking mtns and sunset on same property
Luke I discovered those clips about 10-15years ago and they are awesome. Ive broken a couple over tightening them with pliers. . .but all in all they are excellent! Handy to carry a few all the time, tear out a gromet and these are just as strong. And they are inexpensive too❗
The versatility is why I'm more of a tarp camper. There are ways to fully protect yourself, but usually, weather permitting, I'd rather just use a simple lean-to configuration, and sleep in nature. Just enough so that if there's a heavy dew, or rain, and if you're cagey enough, against the wind, is plenty for me. That, and a long fire, and I'm enjoying nature to the max!
Glad you didn’t have any major problems out there Luke. Safety for you is the most important thing. I hope you had extra snacks in case you had problems. Thanks for the little old lady story. Could have been worse. Whew! Lol. Be safe and stay well til the next adventure.
I enjoyed the llittle old lady story. As an old lady I have been out on a lonely road in the dark. I have made it a practice to lessen the anxiety, attach myself to a moving vehicle and stay with it until you reach a familiar or light area.
You and your wife should have a tv show. I'd watch it, probably too much but you have so much information that I know you share but people are really going to know. Things are going to get rough!
Clear plastic with the reflective emergency blanket hung in the back side and small fire in front side would be ideal for colder temperatures. Cool video.
I hate long cold nights in inadequate shelter, glad you're doing it! 😄I once saw one of the survival shows do a shelter that had the mylar space blanket hanging down the back wall, the 2 mil plastic stretching down to the ground like a lean to, and a fire built outside the plastic. The plastic allowed penetration of the infrared energy, the mylar reflects it back, and the plastic holds it in. Again, one use, but seems to work. Have to have something solid like a giant rock, trees, overturned tree roots as they had, or some other "back wall" to support the mylar. Also, a fire.
A Swedish windsack is designed to be used when you dig down in snow and not to protect against rain and i don't think the plastic shet will work on a mountanin in a snowstorm.
nice to play with the plastic painters drop cloth I taught cub scouts how to do that with a broom stick as a pole/walking staff Personally I use a 3x3/10x10 tarp, hiking pole, and a ground sheet The best bad weather protection for less than 1kg/2lbs
Irrespective of what the nature of my trip is, car camping, backpacking, bike camping, or whatever, I always carry an extra tarp. I’ve done that since a trip I was on in the Boy Scouts sixty years ago on which I suffered from hypothermia. A lesson not forgotten. A 9X12 3 mil is perfect. 2 mil works. A rounded pebble for a tie out works fine. I also carry two 50 gallon trash bags which works for stuffing with boughs, leaves, or debris for a bed or an insulating cover. The extra weight and bulk is well worth it if it is needed. I’ve spent many a camping trip with everyone hanging out dry under one of my tarps in foul weather.
There is a you tuber whose deal is cooking high end meals in various wild wilderness locations as opposed to being strictly survival. he made a mansion out of cling wrap on top of a mountain. it had a door with a sapling door frame and he heated it with candles. he had a hole at the top to vent any fumes or noxious gases. his cling wrap mansion was roomy, over 8 or ten feet tall. I'm not saying he built it quickly or anything but when he was done it was pretty spectacular for a temporary shelter. he also made a table out of saplings, a chair, and i think a bed frame and a bed.
A windsack is used at winter when skiing in the mountains above the tree line. If caught by strong winds and snow conditions doesn’t admit digging a snow cave. That plastic would be ripped to pieces in such conditions.
Luke I'm with you on doing the plastic sheet to make a tent of sorts, I really enjoy being out it the weather and getting cozy from the elements in something I made with my hands, Thanks for bringing me back!
Dude, I am with you on the "as a kid" stuff. I had one major piece of equipment at 10. A frost or western cuttlery made knife my Dad gave me. Cheap tho it was, it was the first and best knife ever with stag handle! I got my hands on a Sears canvas pup tent at about 12. At 10, 12, and 14 yrs. old I built lean to's, camps, tents, and plastic shelters with logs and clothes pins. Chopped down pines 5" dia. with that knife. Man, if I had known then that "bushcraft" would be so popular I would have stuck with it. I see here the things I and (we) did for fun as a kids become a major industry! I made a camp grill with 4 welding rods and a rack grate from a bread truck with a set of cutter pliers. Same stuff you see today for sale. I love your videos because you are real! God bless you, and I love the clips.
Hey Luke- hope you’re doing well. Cool idea with the plastic…glad I didn’t throw away the plastic leftover from a painting project. Always find interesting and useful information in your videos…keep rocking them out. Drift safe Brutha!
One reason I keep a folded 10 ft cheap ($5) blue tarp folded and tucked along the back of all of our emergency bags along with cordage and just a few stakes. SO many uses - shelter, sun tarp, privacy curtain if circumstances call for it, protection from damp ground, etc.
You were the Guardian for the "old lady" for what she perceived as going through the terrain she was uncomfortable with. You were the guiding light for her! As uncomfortable it was for you (not knowing who is endangering you with the tailgating) it was a sense of comfort to her! Yes, I happen to know that tailgating is dangerous. Work with me here.
I like a tarp or sheet of plastic because you have so many options. TP, a frame, lean to, or a quick throw down get inside and weather the storm. I like how you show that survival is less about gear and more about mind set. Know you will survive and you will.
Appreciate you sacrificing a good nights rest to compare the shelters in a real life scenario! I found the clips interesting also, pretty basic but adds a lot of options to your configuration. I didn't think they would hold in the storm but looks like they did fine. It looks like its a good idea just to have a basic plastic sheet just to throw in an emergency kit or car, no need to spend the big bucks on a basic shelter. Stay safe and healthy!
I like the set up ...it works....the clips with the small bungee cord and some stakes and cordage works just fine ....thanks .....strength and honor....🙏
I'm glad how you stress ventilated environments or risk suffocating CO2 Poisoning is a real danger Proper ventilation is always necessary. Thanks for Showing that plastic can provide proper protection in a pinch if you had to. Happy Trails stay safe Luke !
Add a candle to the plastic shelter , would be plesant, just keepan eye on the co2 levels. Love how you are willing to walk the walk , and not bs , and get the answers.
Cool. I'd use the shelter. I have the poly tarp, 1 person tent, sleeping bag, gloves and hat for people without homes in my car during winter. I found a 125. solar and 400 watt ac powered lithium generator, and it will run the 175watt on low Bud heater. Micro heater. That would be a nice setup for homeless persons, allow them to recharge free ac or purchase a 20. solar panel. I'd use the poly. I'm from your neck of the woods, and we used to wear green garbage bags for campouts as kids if it were raining.
THANKS for the 'shout out' on this one! The plastic sheet performed very well. I expected that the serrated jaws on the clips would rip out the plastic under the wind load. The system held up. Given the increased flexibility in the setup of this product over the WindSack, I would have made a shelter where I could make a bed and maybe get more beneficial rest as part of my survival strategy. You overcame that temptation! SO: low price, flexible setup, more space under shelter make a winner for the drop cloth and clamps. In the spot you found, I would have used the fallen pinecones to make buttons in the interest of saving stress on the plastic AND I would have used some of those needles to make a tea to add interest to the long wait for morning.
I paused at 6:45, right after you showed the tarp clips you were going to use. So I’m pausing in there and making a prediction: Wind picks up and tears out the clips. Suggestion: Find some small, smooth stones to create stronger tie-outs. Take a stone and hold it in the plastic at a tie-out point. Using para-cord, tie a knot around the opposite side of the plastic, at the base of the bulge, trapping the stone in a plastic bubble. The result is a durable tie-out point.
Luke👍👍 I keep some black 6mil Visqueen in my truck for emergency purposes, a 10ft x 20ft stores easily. Reinforced the corners and center edges with duct tape and punched holes for tie outs, works great. Construction sites usually have leftover pieces you can get free, just ask. Haven't used for a shelter other than a tarp of sorts, but yeah it'll work if needed. Great video, thanks for the work. See ya next time. Enjoy!
Great video Luke, and thank you for suffering for us! This's why I like cheap products, they sometimes work much better than any high-end brand which costs 10 times more. Thanks for the video.
Great vid. At the end of the day. A cheap plastic sheet is just fine if you are just a day trip person and would only use in severe extreme situation (rolled your ankle deep in the woods) but it is really just a one time use product. Might I suggest a $25 camping tarp designed for utility uses with multiple tie out options. It is made for multiple uses. Pair that with a hammock (instead of a chair), and you can "survive" quite comfortably in almost all weather. Both are lightweight. Add a wool blanket, now you are "surviving" like a king! Haha. Happy New to all!
Fjällrävens vindsäck is supposed to be used when you're up on the treeless fell and a snowstorm is coming. It's not a tent; you're supposed to burrow down in a hole that you've dug in the snow, and you wrap the wind sack around you. There are different sizes, so that you can use one for several people, which of course is good when it's really cold. It's for bivouacking in the snow, basically.
SEMPER FI brother you did this video and survival Proper JUSTIFICATION and proof of proper materials. Your still my go to guy. That will never change. Keep it as best you can.
Cold and humidity- Back when I still lived in the UK it would never get as cold as New England but the winters were nasty, nasty, nasty. I would wear multiple pairs of socks, there was a product that would keep your kidneys warm when outside, and multiple layers were needed way above freezing temperatures. I rode a motorcycle all year and have to stop to put mr gloves on top of the engine or exhaust to have warm hands for a few minutes t least- even putting my hands on the engine whilst in motion. I lived in what was arguably the mildest part of the country and still the cold would go right to the bone. Sometimes the wind would change in such a manner it came across Europe from Russia but as the temperature plummeted it was bearable because the air was dry. Under normal conditions the sea was 5 miles to the north, 10 miles to the south, 25 miles to the west- it was never dry.
I did a winter campout with a cheap tarp and those same clips a week ago. I love them clips so versatile. I am not an expert or claim to be but I do enjoy getting out. I been watching your channel for the last 3 maybe 4 year now. I really enjoy both you and Suzy. You guys are great. Keep up the great work.
Holy cow! That rain was horizontal! I’m an aircraft mechanic and have had to work in rain like that and can tell you no rain suit is gonna keep you dry in that! Surprised it didn’t blow into the tent at the bottom. Cold and wet Sucks.
This is where I want to get to and what I want to do! But I want to thank you Luke for doing these videos because the one thing I've learned from them is one you have to be prepared two you have to have base knowledge of what you're doing so thank you seriously I really enjoy your content!
Nice! I've done a little Blacksmithing before too, made my own Krumkniv from an old Railroad Spike, came out really nice all things considered. Also been through Asheville a few times, definitely not the best place, a lot of hippies and "alternative" community there, some good places to eat though I agree. Strength and Honor bro!
For years, I have kept a rolled sheet of 4 mil plastic and 100' of paracord. Simple, cheap and it works.
don't forget the clips
@@johncramer9564 Clips are good, but take up space and weight, every ounce counts. Better to use what nature provides, bit of wood or rocks to make a toggle for a rope loop.
@@Echowhiskeyoneexactly, and rocks are free. I've seen those clips at HD as 6 for $15. Ridiculous!
Many times I have used a plastic shelter. I remember one spring grizzly bear hunt in Alaska my dad and I spent a week in a plastic shelter. We didn’t have the clips like you have. We used button balls for tie downs. They were a keyhole shaped metal ring with a rubber ball that you could hold the plastic with. We used 6 mill plastic and we had line and cut poles to fashion the shelter. We cooked inside it and slept there the whole trip. Back then we didn’t have a lot of options for backpacking tents except for expensive drawtight mountain tents. We were way too poor to afford that. We stayed very comfortable in that shelter for a week. We didn’t get a bear but we saw some and spent a great week in the wilderness. Now I can afford good tents and gear but that trip was one of the most memorable in my life. Thanks for bringing back great memories.
I’ve carried a drop cloth in my vehicles for years. Tons of uses; covering something your hauling, cover for changing a tire in the rain, floor cover for something dirty in a suv, and on and on.
Thank you for the hard work you put into all of your videos. I find my go to shelter is a 10x10 tarp with a 5x7 ground cloth sprayed with permetherin. In the summer I add a bug net and in the winter I add a heavy duty Mylar blanket. Happy New Year looking forward to more adventure in 2022.
Care to share what ground cloth and bugnet that you use? I was going to use my mylar blanket as the ground cloth.
@@paulblackburn4245 I like gear that works regardless of the cost so I make alot of my own stuff for the bug net I use window shears from walmart. Just sew 2 of the together add a shock cord at the hem full bug protection. I add a couple of pieces of webbing at the top to hang on the ridge line. The ground cloth is a 4 dollar seal nylon tarp with grommets. Got it a walmart I stake it down so it doesn't move at night. Spray the nylon side with permetherin for bug protection. I have 20 bucks in the hole thing and it will last me a couple of years before I replace it.
@@paulblackburn4245 You'll wake up every time you roll over from the sound and end up with a bunch of holes in your mylar. Tents are nice.
This is my plan as well... Some people have more more money than sense!
@chrismoore600 Dude, love it!
I've actually done this in real life. About 40 years ago, I was serving in a Canadian Army reserve combat arms unit. One weekend, in early March, we went out to a conservation area to do our Winter Indoctrination training. On the Friday evening that both squadrons of my regiment left their respective armouries, it was bitterly cold and quite windy. At the conservation area, we were supposed to meet a group from the base supply section of a nearby Regular Force base and receive canvas bell tents. The bell tents weren't something that reserve units would typically hold in their quartermaster stores, so they had to be requisitioned.
After we got there, the base supply trucks failed to show up. One of the senior officers of the regiment attempted to reach the base supply section to find out what was going on, but was unable to get through to the duty officer. So, rather than wait any longer, the officers and a couple of senior NCOs went to a local Canadian Tire store to get all the thick vapour barrier they could get, lots of rope and duct tape.
We made 'A'-frame type shelters using the vapour barrier and rope, and sealed off both ends of the shelters with duct tape. I don't remember how we managed to secure the bottoms of the A-frame shelters to the ground to prevent the wind from lofting up the walls of the shelter and getting inside.
We were then given instructions to sleep in our arctic sleeping bags fully clothed, and wear watch caps on our heads to minimize heat loss. All of us were wearing long underwear, combat shirts and pants and over the shirts, arctic combat parkas. We had air mattresses to prevent heat loss through the ground. Even with all that, it was still a fairly cold night, but I slept OK.
The bell tents that we were looking for didn't arrive until the following morning. Nevertheless, we learned that in a pinch, vapour barrier or plastic sheeting could be used as shelter in an emergency provided you had an air mattress or some other similar insulating kind of mattress, a warm sleeping bag and warm clothing.
Excellent story, thanks for sharing!
Regular Army here. We used our rain poncho to make a shelter as part of training...and sleeping fully clothed is a rookie mistake even Scouts know. Great story though.
@@linebrunelle1004 In the reserve unit I served in, our ponchos had a dual purpose. Not only did they serve as protection from the rain, but they also had snaps so that two ponchos could be snapped together to form an A-frame shelter that could be hung on a rope, and grommets so they could be tied down like a tent. When I did the field portion of my basic training (mostly consisting of basic infantry section tactics and learning how to set up defensive positions) in the summer of 1979, that's what we slept under. We were lucky that the weather was excellent and rain-free.
Today, reservists in the Canadian Army actually get real tents!
I have a small zipper pouch I labelled "utility" where I have those very tarp clips and the bungee balls that I got at Harbor Freight. They work great. I keep duct tape, ripstop adhesive para shoot repair material to repair my tents and a lot of other doodads in there. Another great video. Thanks
Good tips for a utility pouch!
Amazing how well that piece of plastic did. Those tarp clips really made all the difference! Great video!
Amazing what you can do with a sheet of plastic and a couple tie offs. Those clips are way easier than button stones. Love it!
Thomas Paine, is that U ???
I always carry a 10' x20' sheet in my packs. Pick 'em up at most hardware stores for a few bucks. Lightweight, takes little space, and keeping dry is often critical. Plus it can be used in.many other ways..
The thing you never thought you needed, but are sure glad you got it tonite!
I imagine it would be like camping in a giant sandwich bag. Regardless it's good to know what to expect. Good review.
Absolutely love your channel! I was brought up the same way! Poor and can't afford real camping equipment! Used plastic, ponchos and debre shelters! Had lots of fun doing it! Those plastic clips are awesome! Been using them for many years! I hammock camp now and still use them! One of the best little gadgets!
I have used clips like those for 16 years. They are super for providing additional tie-off points to a tarp setup. Very cool video Luke. Enjoyed it as always.
Try to useing silicone grease on the nut threads on the tarp clips, they will work better, get tighter and least longer, and will not lock up to where you can't remove the nut to loosen them with out breaking them, yep I learned that the hard way :)
The clips very workable but in low low temp with repeat use , as we also played with a tarps those clamp / clips can snap so we even tried office supply metal clips just for fun too . Thank you for reminding me of the FUN
I love this video. I've got a tarp and a rolled plastic drop cloth in my get home bag in the car. I'm glad to see the plastic works, but most of all, I'm hunting down those clips! I can think of a thousand uses for them! Thanks so much!
The Lukeraven survival tent is available at your local home center or hardware store for $20.
I liked how he expresses that, you are NOT going to sleep like a baby in a survival situation. its about staying alive not sleep.
Worse case, you wrap yourself like a plastic burrito, and sit under a tree till morning, Your going to sweat, but you will survive.
I feel like those tarp clips were the star of this episode as far as gear goes.
Sometimes little old ladies don’t see well at night. Sometimes old folks have cataracts, not so bad that they can’t see well enough to drive, but enough to make night driving difficult. She may have hanging on to you for her safety, hoping that you would go her way, hoping she could follow you to safety, maybe her home. Tolerance and patience are excellent foundation stones for an honorable character. Strength and Honor. Texas
Then she shouldn't be driving at all. Old age doesn't entitle her to risk other people; to injure, permanently cripple, or kill them. Someone being as dangerous on the road is not something anyone should tolerate.
I like the big sheet of plastic as an emergency shelter, it reminds me of Mors Kochanski's super shelter. Those plastics clips are a great idea ,
I liked your demonstation of the usefulness of a sheet of plastic as a sheltering option. When I first started tent camping, during Boy Scout outings with my son's troop, I used a roll of Walmart purchased plastic as rain protection over my tent. It worked like a champ. I stayed dry during heavy downpours that soaked other campers' tents.
I also have a set of the same tarp clips you used in this adventure. I love mine and they are a regular part of my tarp/tent camping kit. I really enjoyed seeing you show their effectiveness.
I'm still not happy to see you beating down the windsock prooduct. My understanding from other commenters and from other RUclips demonstrations of the product is it is a tool frequently used by skiers and hikers in mountainous wind/snow conditions. It is not a substitute for a tent. As far as I can tell, it's a highly regarded product in Europe.
You and your wife are so good at showing people the beauty and challenges of camping. You are entertaining and witty during product reviews. You interweave good folksy stories of family and growing up in your reviews. I believe that is why so many of us tune in whenever you post a new video/review. Please stay on the positive side and don't give up that high ground when approaching camping tools and products. Remember, "One person's junk is another person's treasure."
So you want him to lie? He didn't like the product. He wasn't profane or, make multiple videos to talk down the product. Other peoples usage may vary but, the product failed in his video. I feel he "told it like it was".
Reminds me of cold days in my doghouse blind, deerhunting. Have done lots of squats waiting for some hunting action! I'm a blacksmith. I agree that we do make jewelry, I enjoy using horseshoe nails for that, but I also make other, larger items. Our teenage son wanted to start-his first forge was the lid to a broken bbq, and his anvil was a railroad plate. Things progressed, nice to have more than one hammer, and I enjoy our propane forge as well as our coal forge. Our son, now serving overseas in the military, taught me how to forge, and I promised him I would keep it lit and his smithing business going until he comes home. So, I hope you pick the hammer back up, light the forge, and heat some metal!! Thank you for your beautiful videos that make me feel like I'm outside, even when I'm not😊
Thank you for raising a young man with a moral & ethical compass that led to public service. 🇺🇸
I have always had a piece of plastic when camping, The old man taught me to use it as a shelter, ground protection, slide down a snow covered hillside, carry firewood, extend a rain fly... So many uses!
I just love your adventures and gear reviews... no one does them better.
BTW I Always carry a 12x12' ground cloth in the truck.
Makes good sense. I've read/seen info from survival instructors that advocate heavy clear plastic for it's versatility. If having to hunker down for hours/days, natural light is a great asset to "mental health", easier to "stay put" vs. aimless wandering etc. And if using any source of light inside after dark, it'd be as visible as possible to rescue/search teams. And of course, the option of using it to make some sort of "super shelter" adds further to versatility of clear plastic. Impressed with those plastic clips, especially for that price! :D Did you order them, or find them in your local area?
Home depot carrys similar tarp clips. Not sure if its the same brand.
@@charlessalmond7076 thanks! :D
Manards carries them as well.
@@SoloHiker1 thanks.. although we don't have that chain out west/my area! :D
A piece of plastic and a good mylar blanket does wonders
I love the idea of the tarp clips! Thanks, Luke for showing us an inexpensive way to make a shelter. I found the clips on Amazon 12 for $10.99.
4 for $1.50 at Dollarama
@@linebrunelle1004 We don't have Dollarama but do have Dollar Tree. I just checked their website. They have 82 different clips, none of them for tarps.
Luke we both had the same sort of childhood as far as using what we had to surv ive including building shelters out of natural materials and building shelters out of plastic sheet.I am a bit older than you at 57 years old and for light i used one of those red kerosene lantern with the cloth wicks and for some reason i love the smell of them burning in the lantern so i can really relate to what you are saying and just watching your videos brings back good memories.
You're a type 2 fun fan, much like I am! The more challenging, difficult, and yes, even miserable a trip is, the more I love it!
First discovered the joys of type 2 fun while doing long runs when I was trying to get fit - it was super tough, my feet hurt, my legs ached, I was out in the wind and the rain and the cold - but I LOVED it! Never looked back!
I've found a mattress protection bag, which comes in a variety of sizes as you might expect, and comes in different thicknesses, to be an excellent emergency shelter much like the old orange tube tents but with the one open end. Think giant waterproof (and condensation holding) bag, but with enough length that you can prop the end open and be secure further back. Very inexpensive for a set of three! With the right venting, this is a very effective enclosure against the wind and weather.
We used plastic sheet drop cloths and clips on backpacking trips in the Adirondacks as a Boy Scout in the 70’s. After my Dad passed I found the bag of clips we had used. He was one of the Scoutmasters in my troop. Thanks for the video. I trip down memory lane for me too.
Awesome video. Not about how much you spend on gear, but how you can use what's available to you. Love your videos!
Ingenuity...
@@keithsparling5537 Will take you much further than dollars in the back country!
If you are going to build on Lone Wolf Mountain, maybe add a blacksmith shop to the plans.
BRAVO!! Glad to know $10 can save my life!!! Thanks Lucas! Be blessed!
Bet FjalRaven is pulling those bags as they watch this!
Like those clips. Spent 2 weeks in NM taking a blacksmithing class. Made a towel bar, towel ring, TP holder and a wicked hot dog/marshmallow roaster. Spent another week a few years later on a silversmithing class. Good times. Cool skills.
Really enjoy watching and learning about survival skills, you have a great way of explaining and teaching. Cheers
Hi I really like this channel I sold my house when I was 27 bought 22 acres of property farther down the road bought a camper got tired of staying in it sold it started sleeping under the stars with a tarp on the ground nylon sleeping pad and a large piece of clear plastic covering me up just work to stay warm gathering firewood moving wherever you want I lived sleeping under the stars like that for about 7 years I could sleep really well in rain or snow on the ground just pack it away in a garage can and roll it anywhere you want now I live in a nice house with 2 ponds overlooking mtns and sunset on same property
Anything is possible if you know what your doing. And it's safe. Fantastic video. Well done for seeing the night through.
Luke I discovered those clips about 10-15years ago and they are awesome. Ive broken a couple over tightening them with pliers. . .but all in all they are excellent! Handy to carry a few all the time, tear out a gromet and these are just as strong. And they are inexpensive too❗
Thank you for all you put into your videos, plz do more budget/ homemade shelters.
The versatility is why I'm more of a tarp camper. There are ways to fully protect yourself, but usually, weather permitting, I'd rather just use a simple lean-to configuration, and sleep in nature. Just enough so that if there's a heavy dew, or rain, and if you're cagey enough, against the wind, is plenty for me. That, and a long fire, and I'm enjoying nature to the max!
Glad you didn’t have any major problems out there Luke. Safety for you is the most important thing. I hope you had extra snacks in case you had problems. Thanks for the little old lady story. Could have been worse. Whew! Lol. Be safe and stay well til the next adventure.
I enjoyed the llittle old lady story. As an old lady I have been out on a lonely road in the dark. I have made it a practice to lessen the anxiety, attach myself to a moving vehicle and stay with it until you reach a familiar or light area.
You and your wife should have a tv show. I'd watch it, probably too much but you have so much information that I know you share but people are really going to know. Things are going to get rough!
Far better than the River country products trekker 2 tent I bought in 2019.
Clear plastic with the reflective emergency blanket hung in the back side and small fire in front side would be ideal for colder temperatures. Cool video.
Love red lens. I was an operator for 30 years and every now and then when backpacking I'll red lens up...Don't know why, its relaxing.
I hate long cold nights in inadequate shelter, glad you're doing it! 😄I once saw one of the survival shows do a shelter that had the mylar space blanket hanging down the back wall, the 2 mil plastic stretching down to the ground like a lean to, and a fire built outside the plastic. The plastic allowed penetration of the infrared energy, the mylar reflects it back, and the plastic holds it in. Again, one use, but seems to work. Have to have something solid like a giant rock, trees, overturned tree roots as they had, or some other "back wall" to support the mylar. Also, a fire.
A Swedish windsack is designed to be used when you dig down in snow and not to protect against rain and i don't think the plastic shet will work on a mountanin in a snowstorm.
nice to play with the plastic painters drop cloth
I taught cub scouts how to do that with a broom stick as a pole/walking staff
Personally I use a 3x3/10x10 tarp, hiking pole, and a ground sheet
The best bad weather protection for less than 1kg/2lbs
Irrespective of what the nature of my trip is, car camping, backpacking, bike camping, or whatever, I always carry an extra tarp. I’ve done that since a trip I was on in the Boy Scouts sixty years ago on which I suffered from hypothermia. A lesson not forgotten. A 9X12 3 mil is perfect. 2 mil works. A rounded pebble for a tie out works fine. I also carry two 50 gallon trash bags which works for stuffing with boughs, leaves, or debris for a bed or an insulating cover. The extra weight and bulk is well worth it if it is needed. I’ve spent many a camping trip with everyone hanging out dry under one of my tarps in foul weather.
Also appreciate the time you take from Sussie todo these content videos. Also thanks to her as well lol hope you and kids had great holidays! ❤️❤️
There is a you tuber whose deal is cooking high end meals in various wild wilderness locations as opposed to being strictly survival. he made a mansion out of cling wrap on top of a mountain. it had a door with a sapling door frame and he heated it with candles. he had a hole at the top to vent any fumes or noxious gases. his cling wrap mansion was roomy, over 8 or ten feet tall. I'm not saying he built it quickly or anything but when he was done it was pretty spectacular for a temporary shelter. he also made a table out of saplings, a chair, and i think a bed frame and a bed.
A windsack is used at winter when skiing in the mountains above the tree line. If caught by strong winds and snow conditions doesn’t admit digging a snow cave. That plastic would be ripped to pieces in such conditions.
Luke I'm with you on doing the plastic sheet to make a tent of sorts, I really enjoy being out it the weather and getting cozy from the elements in something I made with my hands, Thanks for bringing me back!
Ingenuity and Deverting from the standard ways of supplying shelter .We appreciate your efforts.Stay safe ✌️
Luke I like your ideal having plastic for shelter!! I really enjoy watching your videos. Be safe and see you in next video.
Dude, I am with you on the "as a kid" stuff. I had one major piece of equipment at 10. A frost or western cuttlery made knife my Dad gave me. Cheap tho it was, it was the first and best knife ever with stag handle! I got my hands on a Sears canvas pup tent at about 12. At 10, 12, and 14 yrs. old I built lean to's, camps, tents, and plastic shelters with logs and clothes pins. Chopped down pines 5" dia. with that knife. Man, if I had known then that "bushcraft" would be so popular I would have stuck with it. I see here the things I and (we) did for fun as a kids become a major industry! I made a camp grill with 4 welding rods and a rack grate from a bread truck with a set of cutter pliers. Same stuff you see today for sale. I love your videos because you are real! God bless you, and I love the clips.
Hey Luke- hope you’re doing well. Cool idea with the plastic…glad I didn’t throw away the plastic leftover from a painting project. Always find interesting and useful information in your videos…keep rocking them out. Drift safe Brutha!
One reason I keep a folded 10 ft cheap ($5) blue tarp folded and tucked along the back of all of our emergency bags along with cordage and just a few stakes. SO many uses - shelter, sun tarp, privacy curtain if circumstances call for it, protection from damp ground, etc.
You were the Guardian for the "old lady" for what she perceived as going through the terrain she was uncomfortable with. You were the guiding light for her! As uncomfortable it was for you (not knowing who is endangering you with the tailgating) it was a sense of comfort to her! Yes, I happen to know that tailgating is dangerous. Work with me here.
If it helps I was thinking the same thing!
You have a great facilitators voice which is very easy to listen to. Another great video thank you
I like a tarp or sheet of plastic because you have so many options. TP, a frame, lean to, or a quick throw down get inside and weather the storm. I like how you show that survival is less about gear and more about mind set. Know you will survive and you will.
Appreciate you sacrificing a good nights rest to compare the shelters in a real life scenario! I found the clips interesting also, pretty basic but adds a lot of options to your configuration. I didn't think they would hold in the storm but looks like they did fine. It looks like its a good idea just to have a basic plastic sheet just to throw in an emergency kit or car, no need to spend the big bucks on a basic shelter. Stay safe and healthy!
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and your family and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures
I like the set up ...it works....the clips with the small bungee cord and some stakes and cordage works just fine ....thanks .....strength and honor....🙏
Sewing clips are also great to use....small, strong and very useful for shelter building, clothes hanging etc
I'm glad how you stress ventilated environments or risk suffocating
CO2 Poisoning is a real danger
Proper ventilation is always necessary. Thanks for Showing
that plastic can provide proper protection in a pinch if you had to.
Happy Trails stay safe Luke !
CO2 or CO?
They tell you in the after life what it is that took your life
Thank you for bringing us along to another of your great adventures!!!!
Add a candle to the plastic shelter , would be plesant, just keepan eye on the co2 levels. Love how you are willing to walk the walk , and not bs , and get the answers.
I'm happy that you always tell it how it is and don't sugarcoat anything even if you like it.
Cool. I'd use the shelter. I have the poly tarp, 1 person tent, sleeping bag, gloves and hat for people without homes in my car during winter. I found a 125. solar and 400 watt ac powered lithium generator, and it will run the 175watt on low Bud heater. Micro heater. That would be a nice setup for homeless persons, allow them to recharge free ac or purchase a 20. solar panel. I'd use the poly. I'm from your neck of the woods, and we used to wear green garbage bags for campouts as kids if it were raining.
The tarp clips work great, I carry them all the time work great with my poncho for quick shelter.
I never seen you doing cave camping trip anyway Nice to see you again 😊😊😊😊
THANKS for the 'shout out' on this one! The plastic sheet performed very well. I expected that the serrated jaws on the clips would rip out the plastic under the wind load. The system held up. Given the increased flexibility in the setup of this product over the WindSack, I would have made a shelter where I could make a bed and maybe get more beneficial rest as part of my survival strategy. You overcame that temptation! SO: low price, flexible setup, more space under shelter make a winner for the drop cloth and clamps. In the spot you found, I would have used the fallen pinecones to make buttons in the interest of saving stress on the plastic AND I would have used some of those needles to make a tea to add interest to the long wait for morning.
I paused at 6:45, right after you showed the tarp clips you were going to use. So I’m pausing in there and making a prediction: Wind picks up and tears out the clips.
Suggestion: Find some small, smooth stones to create stronger tie-outs. Take a stone and hold it in the plastic at a tie-out point. Using para-cord, tie a knot around the opposite side of the plastic, at the base of the bulge, trapping the stone in a plastic bubble. The result is a durable tie-out point.
You can use the same trick to tie two pieces of plastic or tarp together, overlapping the ends
Love to see you do this in really bad weather..
Wind and heavy rain..
Luke👍👍 I keep some black 6mil Visqueen in my truck for emergency purposes, a 10ft x 20ft stores easily. Reinforced the corners and center edges with duct tape and punched holes for tie outs, works great. Construction sites usually have leftover pieces you can get free, just ask. Haven't used for a shelter other than a tarp of sorts, but yeah it'll work if needed. Great video, thanks for the work. See ya next time. Enjoy!
Great video Luke, and thank you for suffering for us! This's why I like cheap products, they sometimes work much better than any high-end brand which costs 10 times more. Thanks for the video.
You do such great presentation in your videos Luke! The opening shot was great here! Ingenuity at 100% here!
Thank you. Improvision, adapt and overcome.
Great vid. At the end of the day. A cheap plastic sheet is just fine if you are just a day trip person and would only use in severe extreme situation (rolled your ankle deep in the woods) but it is really just a one time use product. Might I suggest a $25 camping tarp designed for utility uses with multiple tie out options. It is made for multiple uses. Pair that with a hammock (instead of a chair), and you can "survive" quite comfortably in almost all weather. Both are lightweight. Add a wool blanket, now you are "surviving" like a king! Haha. Happy New to all!
Fjällrävens vindsäck is supposed to be used when you're up on the treeless fell and a snowstorm is coming. It's not a tent; you're supposed to burrow down in a hole that you've dug in the snow, and you wrap the wind sack around you. There are different sizes, so that you can use one for several people, which of course is good when it's really cold. It's for bivouacking in the snow, basically.
Nice , thank you....might just put that in my bag,not enough weight to worry about! Never know.
UCO Candles.. Perfect addition - Light and just enough warmth along with a hot water Nalgene to keep you very comfortable on a cold night.
Nice setup Luke. I’m sure you could do a plow point configuration with a fire for heat too.
Do this every time I go fishing off the beach. Plastic sheeting is the most versatile shelter material I know of
SEMPER FI brother you did this video and survival Proper JUSTIFICATION and proof of proper materials. Your still my go to guy. That will never change. Keep it as best you can.
I'm really glad you didn't beat her up. You're a good guy.
Cold and humidity-
Back when I still lived in the UK it would never get as cold as New England but the winters were nasty, nasty, nasty. I would wear multiple pairs of socks, there was a product that would keep your kidneys warm when outside, and multiple layers were needed way above freezing temperatures. I rode a motorcycle all year and have to stop to put mr gloves on top of the engine or exhaust to have warm hands for a few minutes t least- even putting my hands on the engine whilst in motion. I lived in what was arguably the mildest part of the country and still the cold would go right to the bone. Sometimes the wind would change in such a manner it came across Europe from Russia but as the temperature plummeted it was bearable because the air was dry.
Under normal conditions the sea was 5 miles to the north, 10 miles to the south, 25 miles to the west- it was never dry.
I continue to be amazed by you're skill and fortitude.Thanks for showing us this video.
Thank you for sharing, I will include a similar piece of plastic in my car survival kit...
The Shed on LWM would make a great place to set up a Forge
I did a winter campout with a cheap tarp and those same clips a week ago. I love them clips so versatile. I am not an expert or claim to be but I do enjoy getting out. I been watching your channel for the last 3 maybe 4 year now. I really enjoy both you and Suzy. You guys are great. Keep up the great work.
Holy cow! That rain was horizontal! I’m an aircraft mechanic and have had to work in rain like that and can tell you no rain suit is gonna keep you dry in that! Surprised it didn’t blow into the tent at the bottom. Cold and wet Sucks.
Even though you didn't show it, I'm confident that you did as best you could in low light to check for widow makers. Great video.
Those clips are standard equipment for each of our camping trips. Love them!
Keep a 10x20 in your bug out bag. Use a small tree as a center pole and a few(3 or 4) others as spreaders and wrap with plastic to make a tipi.
This is where I want to get to and what I want to do! But I want to thank you Luke for doing these videos because the one thing I've learned from them is one you have to be prepared two you have to have base knowledge of what you're doing so thank you seriously I really enjoy your content!
Nice! I've done a little Blacksmithing before too, made my own Krumkniv from an old Railroad Spike, came out really nice all things considered. Also been through Asheville a few times, definitely not the best place, a lot of hippies and "alternative" community there, some good places to eat though I agree. Strength and Honor bro!
I love your videos, I would love to see you get the shed on Wolf mountain completed....