This just in Donut media is responsible for all of the 1980 - 2000 cares inflating in price Donut media is in cahoots with the speculators artificially inflating the prices of old cars in the 2nd hand market
@@Rickysuave97 what an odd point to be a stickler of. What crazy person would think a twin-turbocharged sports car people often forget about in the current time MIGHT be a project car for somebody a decade from now?! Such a WILD thought, truly. He must be SUCH a NOOB. /s
I really want a Stinger, they’re pretty sick when I’ve seen modded ones driving around in real life and they’re supposedly extremely reliable for a turbocharged car
While the Stinger is a decent car, it's pricey and a bit pretentious/ostentatious. I'm more a fan of the K5 GT. The Turbo 2.5L has a ton of potential (311 lb.ft. of torque stock), and it looks aggressive, but in a classy, refined way. It has great features, all the bells and whistles, just needs a tune. And maybe better tires...
They already are! I was really surprised at this omission because I worked on an FR-S for six years, supercharged it, daily drove it to work, went sideways from time to time, and for $10k used, a ton of aftermarket parts, and a great tuning community, and given the uniqueness of the FA20 boxer, you'd be hard pressed to find many better project platforms for the money.
Just that laugh.... and so often like at the end of every sentence.... nah man... can't take it for a whole episode every week... heh heh hehe huh huh...
Nothing personal. His not that entertaining or funny, no strong opinnion. Just doesn't got that fun energy or his own lines. I think its not learnable. Its like u have it or u dont. With his voice and his talks skills he probably should do documentary about cars, start new line up. Or how its done maybe
@@smithissmiths7291 trust me as much as I’d love to live down under. I don’t have the cash nor nuts to leave the states and go to the upside down states. Granted I’d fit in with the amount of drinking and cursing I do…Gahtdamn I love Australia
I live in Atlanta and it’s impossible to drive for a few minutes any where in the city and not see a charger. Personally I think they are cool as shit. I’m selling my Audi to get a hellcat soon.
Then you drive one and compare it to australian muscle. And you get severepy dissapointed in how dog american muscle cars are to drive. Commodore and falcon. HSV utes. All of them a million times more fun to drive. Driving a dodge is like driving a bus thats trying to kill you
No shot. They got discontinued. They are putting more HP into the 2025 K5s for a super higher end one. Got rid of the stinger. I love my stinger tho. Got it for 30k with 25k miles. GT2
So they could prove how wrong they were. Banning the sale of gas engine cars in 2035 😂 you won't even be able to sell a gas powered car 13 years from now.. Future definitely isn't bright smh. 🤦♂️
@@ChutneyGames yeah I’m holding on to mine even though I don’t drive it as much anymore. Good point on not being super plentiful, you barely see any Mk4 or older anymore. Although they didn’t sell as many of those compared to MKV and in the case of the MK4s had some bad reliability from my experience.
Yeah, MkV and up. The Jetta GLIs will also be a cheap option that has most of the same aftermarket support as the GTI. The GLIs can also still come in a manual as far as I know, and the DSG is a pretty quick shifting system for the price category.
Yup, love my 2013 elantra gt, shame I don't have enough trust in the 1.8l to put a turbo on it, it's been super fun and reliable after 146k even if it is a slow economy car lol
I think VW GTIs, specifically 7th and 8th generations, will see a massive uptick in future projects. they’re all over the place, relatively affordable, 6 speed, with tons of potential.
I had a MK6 and eventually had it on a stage 2 APR tune and absolutely loved it, was my first and still only cool car I’ve owned but mine had to be a lemon, had like $5k in just repairs in less than a year, didn’t even race it or anything crazy, that alone makes me want to go nowhere near a German car until I got money money 😂 So maybe not the best for young ppl with no money but for sure cool cars for enthusiasts in general, I miss driving mine sorely
@@Lukemasonmedia sometimes they can be a crapshoot, but in the future when most of their common issues have fixes and there’s potentially a bigger community surrounding these, they might nestle into a similar spot as older m3s and BMWs of the sort. Sorry to hear your mk6 gave you such a headache, they certainly aren’t cheap to fix if you can’t reasonably do it yourself. I’m just over 60k on my mk7 and it’s been going great, just some minor issues around 50k (electrical, because german car). Those motors can withstand a lot of abuse, it’s the rest of the components that mess up with modification. Added bonus is they look clean as hell with some minor changes.
not really, i used to think like this but cars have been computers and can bus baised for a long time now. whats more of an issue is battery aftermarket and also the idea that cars will even be as main stream for kids in the future. hopefully we get better public transit, less cars and more pure driving experiences like go-carts and side by sides. I'm not talking about less car people on the roads, i mean less of the people who go 30,000 miles and don't change the oil
nah lol you watch any of rich rebuild? They involve the same body work and car knowledge except you get to plug and play with engines and batteries, and software. Electric cars are gonna have plenty of aftermarket, and people hacking and messing with them. There's a future for car peeps there
@@cec4 you seem to have missed that companies are winning the war in Right to Repair. Good luck tinkering with any electronic product in ten years without proprietary tools that probably will be illegal to own in the common market.
What im thinking about is can you actually drive some old electric cars in the future because i have heard that the whole car can stop working or some parts of it if you dont have the latest update and also the company can send wirelesly a code or something like that to make the car not work. Of course with enough skill you can overcome this somehow but that is what im just thinking about
Well the S has been around for over 10 years. I think the culture around electric cars will change as more manufacturers produce more cars of different varients
@Jimmy’s Model Trains they have actually made it so that batteries on the newer models are much harder and expensive to replace now. a 10 year old ev will go like 30 miles per charge lmao
@Jimmy’s Model Trains Model s has been out for a decade and degradation tests are out for them. 160k miles and a degradation of range of 11%. If there was vehicle powered by an EV motor driving a standard transmission I would be more excited for these things taking over.
2013+ Taurus SHOs and MKS Ecoboosts are a lot of fun too, with potential to make almost 600 horsepower with stock internals while also being all wheel drive
@@derpykake2280 Yeah, I've heard the water pump issue isn't as common on newer duratecs, like our 2017 explorer. So hopefully we don't have to deal with that issue.
@@KB-bh9hp Yeah hopefully, but it's better to keep an eye on it just in case, since it can let coolant into places its not supposed to go if it gets bad enough
This is a Justin appreciation post. He's getting better every video and he seems like a lovely person! I just want to be his friend. Keep doing your thing man!
I have a few things to bring into discussion. First because it is a quick point, the Ford Maverick is just the modern Ford Courier. Which I have modded a few, and am so excited about (hope chevy brings back the LUV). Next, I have been a fan of some Hyundai models for about a decade now. The Elantra GT has been chasing Saab’s and GTI’s for 20 years. I clearly remember Donut doing full episodes on the Veloster N, and currently the small growing underground tuning scene is KDM, not a lot of aftermarket support, so those that are moding their Korean cars are doing so in the most traditional way, making things work. You cannot go o a single website and order everything to completely transform your stock JDM to a 1000hp drift missile. Maybe Donut should do a Money Pit, or something on building out something Korean or at least non-traditional. Without JZ or LS swapping, since those are so saturated in the scene (car scene and RUclips).
I have a maverick in Brazil, and tbh it is the best car that Ford sells out here. Same engine as the fusion and awd? Just perfect and it is great for off roading.
It’s theproject car of today they’re going to be rare stock because 90% of the people who buy them mod them they’re probably going to be rare and expensive once the next generation mods the shit out of them
In the same way that miatas have got expensive recently, the IS200 is the final word in cheap, manual, rear drive, japanese cars. They will go up in price, can't get any cheaper, and they're pretty huge in the UK drift scene
BMW E89 Z4. This car has flown completely under the radar. I also think in might be possible to fit a BMW V10 motor in them!! Imagine, a convertable German two seater that sounds like an F1 car!!!!
I think the Genesis G70 3.3t is going to be a good future pick as they become more reasonable. Also Infiniti Q50s and Q60s are already on their way to being cheap
I think they will be really comparable to stuff like the E30 is now. Like it'll be the nice project car, they will probably go for cheap for a little while before they skyrocket in value again.
😂 In 2035 they're banning the sale of gas powered cars so what's the point of this video.. If you have a gas powered car 13 years from now. It's not sellable...
@@georgeb5262 You are correct. With that said. It's still concerning, with the rise of oil and decline in storages, limited supply of computer chips, carbon taxes etc. I can't see myself ever purchasing another gas powered car. I have a 2020 elantra sport and a 2021 tacoma trd sport. Once these are up, I'm going electric.
Our collision repair shop just received Tesla certification-our staff is well-round-minded? (Muscle, DTM JDM, Hybrid)…We’re excited for the new tech, but have our reservations. A colleague’s father has a Maverick on lease as a company car and loves it. I drive a gen-9 Accord V6 coupe 6-speed and want to upgrade. Our three mechanics own monster Dodges. Another tech’ dropped the forbidden LS into his Genesis. We all argue make and model and power, but when it comes down to it-it’s how the car makes you feel. If it excites something in you-if you look back at her more than just checking lights to know she’s locked-it’s love. I hope the next generation appreciates that…
I think there should be a part 2 of this. I feel like some cars(and trucks) were left out of this like the toyota/subaru twins, Ford Bronco, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan 400Z and a few other cars i can't list. And since crossovers are a thing now, there are a few out there that(on paper at least) sound like cool sleeper builds.
What the current turbo four Mustang really is is a throwback to the SVO. There’s even an episode of “Junkyard Empire” where they take the engine out of a wrecked one and put it in an SVO.
you guys need to do a series where the presenters compete against each other to buy a $5000 car with the most horsepower, then each week you get $1000 to turn it into the best drift, drag, time attack etc. car. Just an idea that would be sick to see.
A little similar to TFL series where they each spend 2500 on an offroader and compete against each other. I agree, that general idea will always make a good series
The problem I have with the idea of a cheap project Tesla or Mustang Mach E is the batteries. I don't ever see the batteries for a Tesla becoming cheap, maybe the Mach E but I'm still doubtful
I’m slowly coming around to liking the maverick. It’s a slow burn that’ll catch on. Also enjoyed the Edgar cameo during the D-Tour bit, such a chill dog 😂
Had an order for a Maverick in Cactus Green, I ended up not getting it and now I feel I should have to sell it for a 4k profit lol. I'll be waiting on a 2023 Subaru outback 2.4l Turbo onyx trim though. Yes a Dad wagon with Tuurboo
The charger is already an affordable working man's fun car. I think the future is bright for it. We'll see some awesome projects and some weird ones. But I'm thankful for Dodge's contribution to fun gasoline-powered cars
Fun fact: The GT-R R34 from factory produced 330hp. The number 276hp was a gentlemen's agreement between manufacturers that stated vehicles where to not exceed 276hp to try and drop automotive accidents. Whatever the numbers said on paper, was what the cars "produced."
12:07 My ideal small truck would be the bed is juuuust big enough to fit a single pallet of stuff from a warehouse on it, with mount points for ratchet straps. You really don't *need* anything bigger than that in 95% of cases outside of something your job requires.
hope for better public transit and walkable city's, we get thst snd hopfully these cars will be considered obsolete and expensive to run so they will be affordable as a hobby.. that and more pure driving experiences like go carts and side by sides. written by a car guy whos owned 3 Miata's, a sc 400, 240sx, z28, and a bunch of other cars, trucks, and rc cars
@@cec4 Exactly. As long as América keeps being dependent on car ownership and gas, prices will never go down. Would be badass to have a rail system to every city like Japan and Europe has.
@@angelgjr1999 and zoning fixed and taxes redone so we don't have poor parts of town funding poor schools and wealther parts of town getting better schooling. Man, I tell you what I've had a lot of good comment replys in the donut media comments it do give me hope for the future
@@cec4 If cars are going to be so expensive to run, how would that make them a cheap hobby? It can't be both expensive and cheap. Also, public transit simply isn't possible in most of the country. I vacation in a place where I have to drive 15 minutes just to see a traffic light and it's half a hour to Walmart, the nearest grocery store. Every 4th car is a truck because it's a rural area with farms, unpaved roads, and bad weather. You can't not have a car out there.
This video was awesome. The future for affordable and fun cars has been looking very not good from my perspective. This gives me some hope. I really like Justin, especially now that he's getting some confidence. You guys are great, keep it up.
The stinger is never gonna be cheap. I wish. Thing is faster than the s550 coyote. Dude had one at slammed enough and it was dope af. 1000hp and it was sequential, bagged, custom widebody
For the charger, the pentastar v6 can hold like 10 psi safely, apparently 400whp is easy to get whilst being relatively safe, a ebay turbo build in like 10 years would be sick
the fact that i got my mk7 jetta for $18k out the door, in a manual and a warranty shows that there will always be something, somewhere to get people into cars for cheap.
Im still hooked on Evo VIII/IX and the FRS... only thing that could make me move into the future is something amazing like the new Corolla GR or the Z... or F-Type 6spds depreciating to around $30k
The only reason I haven't started is because I'm 12. I've always like cars and I still do. The only thing kind of driving me away from them is the thought of EVs and all that. Even without EVs, a lot of new cars are too techy, even though technology is one of my favorite things. Another weird thing about me is the fact that I'm a car guy, Moto guy, and truck guy. 🤷🤷 Love the content, keep it up. You guys have earned a place in my heart and have driven me to love cars even more. And as my favorite car channel, I hope you guys see this. 😁😁😁
With the ND Miata at the end of its life cycle, I could see it being a total sleeper project car 10 years from now. Or people will just end up hating it like the NC lol
@@cec4 gr 86 won't get that expensive according to me, if it gets expensive the mk5 supra won't, as it isn't proper Japanese vehicle, if the gr 86 is one of the last cars of its kind i.e., a good beginner sports car with adequate power and manual transmission then it might get expensive along with the new Z, although Z has way more power.......
What I hope to see some day is cars that DON'T have all the "features" and such (apple car play, bluetooth connectivity, sport modes, blindspot sensors, etc.) and are combustion engines with manual transmissions, generally just being a cheap, moddable platform. Problem with lots of modern cars is that they're so laden with features, there's so much complexity and so much that can break, and on a car you want to mod out and make a project car, it's just not really viable financially (unless you're able and willing to pour substantial amounts of money into this). Maybe there is stuff out there like that already, but I've never seen it.
for the Mach E, it’s all computers. It’s not gonna be fun to work on them bc all you have to do is code them. for the actual muscle car, you can swap engines and tune the crap out of them. By tightening bolts and swapping parts, that is what makes a project car a project car
The way some Charger owners have “modded” them to hell with ridiculous lights, stickers, etc. is the exact reason I traded my Scat Pack in. Not to mention how many are seen in side shows, street races, or being stolen
as an european we can allready forget the first 3 you talk about, sadly those are rare here for the beginning, and they are not cheap AT ALL. and even worse, they are banning combustion engines everywhere... and EVEN WORSE: some countries like germany and england at least let you mod classics to electrify them (some will say that its a blasphemy) but here in france a law forbids any engine change in cars. even if it will actually save 2 cars for going to the junkyard and save nature as second hand project
@@Zeveulesaussure yeah but it’s an electric car. Can’t you just put on a tune that you can switch over to for cruising and one for when you need to get it tested? That sounds like a trivially easy way to get past that law.
@@Zeveulesaussure oh really they changed it ? A few years ago it still stated that you cant change the energy source of a car (like swapping a diesel for a petrol) including swapping combustion for EV
@@mrs_radrod yeah, france is weird anyway. Like swapping is illegal, but you still can pass inspection without any problem even if your rx8 is ls swapped as long as co2 emissions still match the standard they dont care. Your car will pass inspection, but still insurance wont cover anything if you are involved in a crash. Inspection is a joke here
Had a 2 litre turbo sonata pushing 276hp from 2012. Thing actually ripped, was definitely a sleeper (especially since there was no N line back then). Engine blew up, got it replaced for free, and then it got stolen like a month later
You know, in 10 years, you'll see *OLD* project cars become available such as the 55-57 Chevy Belair, Ford Model T, first gen Mustang, and numerous cars from the 30s to the 70s and the baby boomers pass away and their cars need to go somewhere! I wouldn't worry *AT* *ALL* about project cars, we'll have millions to pick from in 10-20 years.
It’s been great to see Justin already transform so quickly into an amazing presenter, I remember his first video he didn’t seam quite camera trained yet, but now he’s awesome! Super funny and knowledgeable
People in the comments saying “the charger will never be collectible because they made to many of them”. That’s often times where collectibility comes from, they were mass produced, TONS of people owned one, and now they’re older and nostalgic about it. Mark my words, in 25 years this current style of charger will be collectible, the challengers especially
I'll be exactly 30 by 2033. Watching this makes me wonder and hope that if the stars aligned, one of these cars or some other unlisted cars will become the main element of the classic "me and my dad built this" story.
I died laughing at 1:22 as nolan began beating his guitar on the ground cuz he said his riff wasn’t good and then he just walked away like nothing happened
I don’t feel like any current ev will carry through to being wanted in the future. Ev technology will likely improve a lot by then. Or hopefully go away.
My current project car is a 1995 Chevrolet Camaro, it's actually my first car I bought in 2005. I'm performing an LS3 swap, as well as from 4L60E to T56 Magnum. It's gonna be siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Great episode! Out of all the personalities you have been trying Justin is by far one of the best. Had me laughing everyone is crashing making prices high..... truth
With the coming onslaught of electrification coming, this does bring up an interesting point. Will the Model S and its variants need a modified 'vintage' car clause put on the books when 'motor swaps' and battery packs need upgrading? (Yeah, they probably don't have that kind of shelf life beyond even 5 years, however one can hope SynGas becomes a thing.) God, the very idea sickens me, but that's the way of the future *gag*
@@samjohannes9969 The idea has been around a long time (I believe I looked into it in the late 90s, but even before then) of refining coal into gasoline (SynGas is the industry generic term), as the US has extensive coal deposits and the gasification process isn't terribly difficult. It would have been a bridge from getting away from OPEC to the US self-fueling the energy market, but too many hands wanting 'grease' keeps it from going mainstream, among environmental issues of course.
I am a proud owner of a 2022 Maverick and without a doubt, this truck is gonna be the next S10/Syclone. I do have one pet peeve though: The 8-speed transmission I have with my 2.0L Ecoboost is rather annoying. The gear ratio is too short and downhill deceleration leaves my heart racing a-bit that I have to gradually double brake for the gears to align with my stopping distance, BUT!... in "Sport" mode the power is insane; gear selection is active; and stiffening of the suspension makes for a great experience driving (even in the city).
Guh, just teaching my kids manual is gonna be a challenge... 😅 But I hope they can have a couple of these cars in 2033! Edit: Actually, Jesus, both my kids won't even be learning how to drive yet! 🤣
I think EV motors will be the hot rods of the future--they're going to be easier to swap, methinks. You could just drop those motors out, and stick beastier ones in.
this is assuming certain states/countries don't just ban gas cars entirely. I am pretty sure that California already has a goal by 2030 to ban all gas cars.
Everybody knows that 276 horsepower was a mutual gentleman's agreement between Japanese car manufacturers. The skyline has more than 276 but on paper it was 276
Whoever does the hiring on this show does a great job. Everytime there's been a new guy, you can't help but to like them right away.
I didn’t like him as soon as he supported the fact that a Kia stinger would be a good project car … sounds like a noob
@@Rickysuave97 you sound like a noob
This just in
Donut media is responsible for all of the 1980 - 2000 cares inflating in price
Donut media is in cahoots with the speculators artificially inflating the prices of old cars in the 2nd hand market
@@Rickysuave97 what an odd point to be a stickler of.
What crazy person would think a twin-turbocharged sports car people often forget about in the current time MIGHT be a project car for somebody a decade from now?! Such a WILD thought, truly. He must be SUCH a NOOB.
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@@Rickysuave97 its literally a 300z/3000gt with an extra set of doors. Lesser known market means theyll be dirt cheap in 10 years
Slammed Mavericks with Focus ST engines are where it's at.
Full Focus RS drivetrain.
I thought your icon was YourMom. Thanks for that.
Been thinking about this one ever since they rolled through my dealership 👌
@@aaronburratwood.6957 Ye because those engines needs more weight to drag around so engines breaks faster 🤣
I wanna do that to my maverick, if only ford can actually build my order
I feel like a proud dad seeing Justin get more comfortable in front of the camera, the more airtime he gets. Great hire!!
He’s doing great! Donut’s hiring record remains flawless.
He's improving very fast, and he's very endearing. Just seems like a sweet guy.
I really want a Stinger, they’re pretty sick when I’ve seen modded ones driving around in real life and they’re supposedly extremely reliable for a turbocharged car
Take it from someone whose worked on them, that's a load of bs. You can get a way better performance sedan for the money they cosf
I have one and I'm going on 20k miles do far no issues and it's a 2021 I love my stinger!
@@justinchildress1923 they are decent but get ready, especially the minute you tune it
That's why I'm not tuning it for a long time lol
While the Stinger is a decent car, it's pricey and a bit pretentious/ostentatious. I'm more a fan of the K5 GT. The Turbo 2.5L has a ton of potential (311 lb.ft. of torque stock), and it looks aggressive, but in a classy, refined way. It has great features, all the bells and whistles, just needs a tune. And maybe better tires...
I think gr/gt86/brz/scion will be great project cars in the future
I can't wait for someone to make a full carbon GR Corolla to compete with the GT86/FRS/BRZ.
In 10 years, the engines will be too expensive to repair.
They already are! I was really surprised at this omission because I worked on an FR-S for six years, supercharged it, daily drove it to work, went sideways from time to time, and for $10k used, a ton of aftermarket parts, and a great tuning community, and given the uniqueness of the FA20 boxer, you'd be hard pressed to find many better project platforms for the money.
Cmon let's be serious. Lots of people mod then heck outta them. Almost like they forget that they are about as overrated as a miata
@@kepler656 you're a joke if you think the BRZ is anything like a supra, LMAO. Completely different everything. Literally nothing is comparable.
Give Justin a own Show about tuning Cars and their potential! He is so cool and seems to have a lot of Knowledge!
that seems like a great idea :D
@ఌ༒❣jellyఌ༒ B gtfh
I think he already does have a show but it's getting editted so it's taking some time.
Just that laugh.... and so often like at the end of every sentence.... nah man... can't take it for a whole episode every week... heh heh hehe huh huh...
Nothing personal. His not that entertaining or funny, no strong opinnion. Just doesn't got that fun energy or his own lines. I think its not learnable. Its like u have it or u dont. With his voice and his talks skills he probably should do documentary about cars, start new line up. Or how its done maybe
If they ever become cheap the Chevy SS would be an awesome project car, sadly I doubt the manual ones will ever become super attainable
It’s gonna be like a CTSV manual wagon they’re gonna keep getting expensive
You're in the wrong country. Get a Commodore for pocket change and skid the shit out of it
Caprice 9c1
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 yeah but that’s an automatic
@@smithissmiths7291 trust me as much as I’d love to live down under. I don’t have the cash nor nuts to leave the states and go to the upside down states. Granted I’d fit in with the amount of drinking and cursing I do…Gahtdamn I love Australia
In 10 years the charger will be equivalent to what a 90s civic is today in terms of car culture 😆
Yup. Overproduced, they’re everywhere.
And what the BRZ is becoming
The Charger is to today's kids what the Fox Body was to 90's kids
I see charger's on FB marketplace for less than 90's civic's.
Dependable cars that never lose their resale value? Nah, they'll be worse than Hondas.
As an Australian, I see modern chargers like Americans see Skylines. I wish we got the Dodges
I live in Atlanta and it’s impossible to drive for a few minutes any where in the city and not see a charger. Personally I think they are cool as shit. I’m selling my Audi to get a hellcat soon.
fucking hate these damn chargers
I live in New Orleans and they’re EVERYWHERE. With themed wraps.
Then you drive one and compare it to australian muscle. And you get severepy dissapointed in how dog american muscle cars are to drive.
Commodore and falcon. HSV utes. All of them a million times more fun to drive. Driving a dodge is like driving a bus thats trying to kill you
I honestly hope Stingers get cheaper in 10 years, absolutely love the hell out of them.
No shot. They got discontinued. They are putting more HP into the 2025 K5s for a super higher end one. Got rid of the stinger. I love my stinger tho. Got it for 30k with 25k miles. GT2
If you guys are still going in 10 years, this video would make an awesome call back.
So they could prove how wrong they were. Banning the sale of gas engine cars in 2035 😂 you won't even be able to sell a gas powered car 13 years from now.. Future definitely isn't bright smh. 🤦♂️
@@MDaDonLegacy hold on, let me land my flying car so I can read your comment properly
Kids will have GTIs for years. Even tuned ones tend to use the relatively safe and solid APR tune. MKV GTIs should be cheap and plentiful.
They ARE cheap, not plentiful in America, get one now before ricers realize about them
@@ChutneyGames yeah I’m holding on to mine even though I don’t drive it as much anymore. Good point on not being super plentiful, you barely see any Mk4 or older anymore. Although they didn’t sell as many of those compared to MKV and in the case of the MK4s had some bad reliability from my experience.
Yeah, MkV and up. The Jetta GLIs will also be a cheap option that has most of the same aftermarket support as the GTI. The GLIs can also still come in a manual as far as I know, and the DSG is a pretty quick shifting system for the price category.
@@daveycash3479 I got a mk7.5 as my daily rn & I plan on keeping it for the rest of my life.
@@dappercrab4243 Best GTI ever made and will always be. Just got an is38 for mine 400hp :) Good taste my friend, good tasteeeee.
They also should’ve included Infiniti Q50/Q60, TT, RWD/AWD, baby gtr vibes and tons of aftermarket support. Great video!
Ford rangers never die. Lift em, slam em, swap em, race em.
Really love what the Koreans are doing with Kia and Hyundai. I think those are where it's going to be at.
For sure. Somewhere down the line they will shoot up in value tremendously tho, Hyundais are really well built and drive great.
Me to I am getting a Genises G70. I think it is better then any Lexus.
Korean build quality is trash tho. Look at all the recalls for their “high end” cars.
Yup, love my 2013 elantra gt, shame I don't have enough trust in the 1.8l to put a turbo on it, it's been super fun and reliable after 146k even if it is a slow economy car lol
@@snapchatsnacks3154
and genesis is a beautiful platfor for VIP builds
I think VW GTIs, specifically 7th and 8th generations, will see a massive uptick in future projects. they’re all over the place, relatively affordable, 6 speed, with tons of potential.
I had a MK6 and eventually had it on a stage 2 APR tune and absolutely loved it, was my first and still only cool car I’ve owned but mine had to be a lemon, had like $5k in just repairs in less than a year, didn’t even race it or anything crazy, that alone makes me want to go nowhere near a German car until I got money money 😂 So maybe not the best for young ppl with no money but for sure cool cars for enthusiasts in general, I miss driving mine sorely
@@Lukemasonmedia sometimes they can be a crapshoot, but in the future when most of their common issues have fixes and there’s potentially a bigger community surrounding these, they might nestle into a similar spot as older m3s and BMWs of the sort.
Sorry to hear your mk6 gave you such a headache, they certainly aren’t cheap to fix if you can’t reasonably do it yourself. I’m just over 60k on my mk7 and it’s been going great, just some minor issues around 50k (electrical, because german car). Those motors can withstand a lot of abuse, it’s the rest of the components that mess up with modification. Added bonus is they look clean as hell with some minor changes.
i think the same with Jettas. Cheap Audi alternative
they are already have a huge place in tuning scheme thanks to their ze german 2jz ea888
I agree
Weird opinion: I actually really like the styling of the new Hyundai Santa Cruz
Not weird my friend it’s like a well refined Baja 🍷 🧀
Can't believe the 86/brz and GTI didn't make the list. If anything, the brz is the next Silvia.
You're gonna have to get degrees in electrical engineering and software engineering to do anything to these and still keep them somewhat reliable.
Oh there’s plenty of tuning companies already trying to make it easy. Theres already a few after market ECUS for teslas
not really, i used to think like this but cars have been computers and can bus baised for a long time now. whats more of an issue is battery aftermarket and also the idea that cars will even be as main stream for kids in the future. hopefully we get better public transit, less cars and more pure driving experiences like go-carts and side by sides. I'm not talking about less car people on the roads, i mean less of the people who go 30,000 miles and don't change the oil
nah lol you watch any of rich rebuild? They involve the same body work and car knowledge except you get to plug and play with engines and batteries, and software. Electric cars are gonna have plenty of aftermarket, and people hacking and messing with them. There's a future for car peeps there
@@cec4 you seem to have missed that companies are winning the war in Right to Repair.
Good luck tinkering with any electronic product in ten years without proprietary tools that probably will be illegal to own in the common market.
What im thinking about is can you actually drive some old electric cars in the future because i have heard that the whole car can stop working or some parts of it if you dont have the latest update and also the company can send wirelesly a code or something like that to make the car not work. Of course with enough skill you can overcome this somehow but that is what im just thinking about
I'll be really interested in seeing how well the Tesla Model 3 (electric cars in general) will hold up over the next 10 years.
Well the S has been around for over 10 years. I think the culture around electric cars will change as more manufacturers produce more cars of different varients
@Jimmy’s Model Trains they have actually made it so that batteries on the newer models are much harder and expensive to replace now. a 10 year old ev will go like 30 miles per charge lmao
Fuck EVs
@Jimmy’s Model Trains I hope you`re right bro
@Jimmy’s Model Trains Model s has been out for a decade and degradation tests are out for them. 160k miles and a degradation of range of 11%.
If there was vehicle powered by an EV motor driving a standard transmission I would be more excited for these things taking over.
2013+ Taurus SHOs and MKS Ecoboosts are a lot of fun too, with potential to make almost 600 horsepower with stock internals while also being all wheel drive
Insanely reliable as well. There are several people with modded who's/flexes/explorers with well over 100k on them and no issues.
@@KB-bh9hp Yeah I actually own an MKS myself, and besides the water pump issue that they all have its been fantastic!
@@derpykake2280 Yeah, I've heard the water pump issue isn't as common on newer duratecs, like our 2017 explorer. So hopefully we don't have to deal with that issue.
@@KB-bh9hp Yeah hopefully, but it's better to keep an eye on it just in case, since it can let coolant into places its not supposed to go if it gets bad enough
This is a Justin appreciation post. He's getting better every video and he seems like a lovely person! I just want to be his friend. Keep doing your thing man!
I have a few things to bring into discussion. First because it is a quick point, the Ford Maverick is just the modern Ford Courier. Which I have modded a few, and am so excited about (hope chevy brings back the LUV).
Next, I have been a fan of some Hyundai models for about a decade now. The Elantra GT has been chasing Saab’s and GTI’s for 20 years. I clearly remember Donut doing full episodes on the Veloster N, and currently the small growing underground tuning scene is KDM, not a lot of aftermarket support, so those that are moding their Korean cars are doing so in the most traditional way, making things work. You cannot go o a single website and order everything to completely transform your stock JDM to a 1000hp drift missile. Maybe Donut should do a Money Pit, or something on building out something Korean or at least non-traditional. Without JZ or LS swapping, since those are so saturated in the scene (car scene and RUclips).
I have a maverick in Brazil, and tbh it is the best car that Ford sells out here.
Same engine as the fusion and awd? Just perfect and it is great for off roading.
Jeremiah's been waiting years for an opportunity to rip his shirt off 😂😂
im upping this
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mf looks ripped too 😭
...on camera...
How did the BRZ/FRS/86 not get brought up in this conversation? Absolute future project car
I want to flat 6 swap one and then twin turbo it or for simplicity a 1uz v8 to stay Toyota
It’s theproject car of today they’re going to be rare stock because 90% of the people who buy them mod them they’re probably going to be rare and expensive once the next generation mods the shit out of them
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 A flat-6 from a 911? Or some other car I don't know yet?
@@yongling9825 Possibly Subaru's boxer 6. They can make pretty good power.
In the same way that miatas have got expensive recently, the IS200 is the final word in cheap, manual, rear drive, japanese cars. They will go up in price, can't get any cheaper, and they're pretty huge in the UK drift scene
while the old miatas get more expensive, the base model for the newest one (was) getting cheaper.
yeah is300s used to be cheap , now they’re going UP and up in price .. just got my second one ( 5 speed manual ) for $7.5k 🤦🏽♂️
is200s are already going up in price. i used to see them between 700-1300 but now i can’t find any good ones under 1200
@@PS31429 Been looking for a good nick is300 for about a year now.. Cheapest I saw was 5k for 120k miles.. Insurance values the car at 1000 😂
terrible manual stick shit 🤮
I really want to see mini trucks make a come back
Metal 3D printing, even DIY CNC and maybe using a microwave array for tempering the 3D printed legacy car parts.
BMW E89 Z4. This car has flown completely under the radar. I also think in might be possible to fit a BMW V10 motor in them!! Imagine, a convertable German two seater that sounds like an F1 car!!!!
and super unreliable too! The perfect car 👌
Totally slept on
i love mine fav car ive owned
Ngl that sounds amazing
But can a home mechanic do anything to them without a bunch of BMW factory tools and computer?
I think the Genesis G70 3.3t is going to be a good future pick as they become more reasonable. Also Infiniti Q50s and Q60s are already on their way to being cheap
Omg before I decided looking for a 3 series I saw a bunchhhhh of Q50’s going for $15k
@@rwelsher1911 yea it’s crazy. Back when I was looking about a year ago there were a bunch of good miles clean Q50s for $18k-$20k
@@TotalxTroll25k where tf do you live cuz I couldn’t find a clean one for at least 28k
I think they will be really comparable to stuff like the E30 is now. Like it'll be the nice project car, they will probably go for cheap for a little while before they skyrocket in value again.
@ఌ༒❣jellyఌ༒ Youngboy is a menace
Others: Best Project car for 2022
DONUT MEDIA be like hold my beer: *BEST PROJECT CAR FOR 2033*
Future
😂 In 2035 they're banning the sale of gas powered cars so what's the point of this video.. If you have a gas powered car 13 years from now. It's not sellable...
@@MDaDonLegacy well, Guess i'll get a diesel astra
@@MDaDonLegacy I think it is the selling of new cars. Correct me if I am wrong.
@@georgeb5262 You are correct. With that said. It's still concerning, with the rise of oil and decline in storages, limited supply of computer chips, carbon taxes etc. I can't see myself ever purchasing another gas powered car. I have a 2020 elantra sport and a 2021 tacoma trd sport. Once these are up, I'm going electric.
Our collision repair shop just received Tesla certification-our staff is well-round-minded? (Muscle, DTM JDM, Hybrid)…We’re excited for the new tech, but have our reservations. A colleague’s father has a Maverick on lease as a company car and loves it. I drive a gen-9 Accord V6 coupe 6-speed and want to upgrade. Our three mechanics own monster Dodges. Another tech’ dropped the forbidden LS into his Genesis. We all argue make and model and power, but when it comes down to it-it’s how the car makes you feel. If it excites something in you-if you look back at her more than just checking lights to know she’s locked-it’s love. I hope the next generation appreciates that…
I think there should be a part 2 of this. I feel like some cars(and trucks) were left out of this like the toyota/subaru twins, Ford Bronco, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan 400Z and a few other cars i can't list. And since crossovers are a thing now, there are a few out there that(on paper at least) sound like cool sleeper builds.
The new Z is a 100k car in my country! It's hard to think of any 100k cars from 10 years ago which have become affordable project status.
What the current turbo four Mustang really is is a throwback to the SVO. There’s even an episode of “Junkyard Empire” where they take the engine out of a wrecked one and put it in an SVO.
you guys need to do a series where the presenters compete against each other to buy a $5000 car with the most horsepower, then each week you get $1000 to turn it into the best drift, drag, time attack etc. car. Just an idea that would be sick to see.
A little similar to TFL series where they each spend 2500 on an offroader and compete against each other. I agree, that general idea will always make a good series
The problem I have with the idea of a cheap project Tesla or Mustang Mach E is the batteries. I don't ever see the batteries for a Tesla becoming cheap, maybe the Mach E but I'm still doubtful
I’m slowly coming around to liking the maverick. It’s a slow burn that’ll catch on. Also enjoyed the Edgar cameo during the D-Tour bit, such a chill dog 😂
Had an order for a Maverick in Cactus Green, I ended up not getting it and now I feel I should have to sell it for a 4k profit lol. I'll be waiting on a 2023 Subaru outback 2.4l Turbo onyx trim though. Yes a Dad wagon with Tuurboo
Nah
Donut has the best ads of any RUclips channel I’ve ever watched. I could binge watch theses ads easily
Can't have a future project car list without mentioning the GR86 and new GR Corolla
The charger is already an affordable working man's fun car. I think the future is bright for it. We'll see some awesome projects and some weird ones. But I'm thankful for Dodge's contribution to fun gasoline-powered cars
james always looks like a sports teacher
James as a sports coach “ if he goes to the John I wanna know how many times he shakes it!”😂
Fun fact: The GT-R R34 from factory produced 330hp. The number 276hp was a gentlemen's agreement between manufacturers that stated vehicles where to not exceed 276hp to try and drop automotive accidents. Whatever the numbers said on paper, was what the cars "produced."
12:07 My ideal small truck would be the bed is juuuust big enough to fit a single pallet of stuff from a warehouse on it, with mount points for ratchet straps. You really don't *need* anything bigger than that in 95% of cases outside of something your job requires.
im 14, i really hope that there will be cars that will be fun and cheap in the future that aren't all electric
hope for better public transit and walkable city's, we get thst snd hopfully these cars will be considered obsolete and expensive to run so they will be affordable as a hobby.. that and more pure driving experiences like go carts and side by sides.
written by a car guy whos owned 3 Miata's, a sc 400, 240sx, z28, and a bunch of other cars, trucks, and rc cars
@@cec4 Exactly. As long as América keeps being dependent on car ownership and gas, prices will never go down. Would be badass to have a rail system to every city like Japan and Europe has.
@@angelgjr1999 and zoning fixed and taxes redone so we don't have poor parts of town funding poor schools and wealther parts of town getting better schooling. Man, I tell you what I've had a lot of good comment replys in the donut media comments it do give me hope for the future
@@cec4 i agree, i like cars and all but damn, in some cities i’ve seen you can’t go anywhere without seeing a road or parking lot, its crazy
@@cec4 If cars are going to be so expensive to run, how would that make them a cheap hobby? It can't be both expensive and cheap. Also, public transit simply isn't possible in most of the country. I vacation in a place where I have to drive 15 minutes just to see a traffic light and it's half a hour to Walmart, the nearest grocery store. Every 4th car is a truck because it's a rural area with farms, unpaved roads, and bad weather. You can't not have a car out there.
I swear donut could make a really funny sitcom style show it would be amazing
that zebra ad when Nolan smashed the guitar was the funniest ad I've ever seen in my life
This video was awesome. The future for affordable and fun cars has been looking very not good from my perspective. This gives me some hope. I really like Justin, especially now that he's getting some confidence. You guys are great, keep it up.
Hopefully this video becomes true.
The stinger is never gonna be cheap. I wish. Thing is faster than the s550 coyote. Dude had one at slammed enough and it was dope af. 1000hp and it was sequential, bagged, custom widebody
For the charger, the pentastar v6 can hold like 10 psi safely, apparently 400whp is easy to get whilst being relatively safe, a ebay turbo build in like 10 years would be sick
That engine will be so unreliable 😂
the fact that i got my mk7 jetta for $18k out the door, in a manual and a warranty shows that there will always be something, somewhere to get people into cars for cheap.
Im still hooked on Evo VIII/IX and the FRS... only thing that could make me move into the future is something amazing like the new Corolla GR or the Z... or F-Type 6spds depreciating to around $30k
The only reason I haven't started is because I'm 12. I've always like cars and I still do. The only thing kind of driving me away from them is the thought of EVs and all that. Even without EVs, a lot of new cars are too techy, even though technology is one of my favorite things. Another weird thing about me is the fact that I'm a car guy, Moto guy, and truck guy. 🤷🤷 Love the content, keep it up. You guys have earned a place in my heart and have driven me to love cars even more. And as my favorite car channel, I hope you guys see this. 😁😁😁
With the ND Miata at the end of its life cycle, I could see it being a total sleeper project car 10 years from now.
Or people will just end up hating it like the NC lol
Nah the ND is beautiful in every aspect, it was a total homage to the NA
An old golf or a Toyota gr 86 could be a cheap fun car in the future too 🤔
assuming they get cheap enough and dont end up like 240s/180s/soon 350z
before then
@@cec4 the 86 BRZ and FRS will have the Z affect people mod the shit out of them and they’ll become valuable stock
and they will get crashed and riced out and beat to shit, the question is even when that happens will they ever get to a properly cheap state
@@cec4 gr 86 won't get that expensive according to me, if it gets expensive the mk5 supra won't, as it isn't proper Japanese vehicle, if the gr 86 is one of the last cars of its kind i.e., a good beginner sports car with adequate power and manual transmission then it might get expensive along with the new Z, although Z has way more power.......
@@theraildynasty_ some bot stole your comment !
100% agree on small trucks coming back. NOT ALL VEHICLES NEED TO BE HUGE. I am seriously considering a Maverick due to it being cheap and small.
Y'all need to come to the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area. There is such a big car culture here. Love you too James.
Justin seems to be getting more comfy with all this air time and I love it! Would be cool to see him host a series!
Really hoping the mini trucks make a comeback 🔥🔥🔥
I agree with Justin. The Camaro and the Ford truck are the 2 cars I would most want on this list. Both would be super dope to mess around with.
What I hope to see some day is cars that DON'T have all the "features" and such (apple car play, bluetooth connectivity, sport modes, blindspot sensors, etc.) and are combustion engines with manual transmissions, generally just being a cheap, moddable platform. Problem with lots of modern cars is that they're so laden with features, there's so much complexity and so much that can break, and on a car you want to mod out and make a project car, it's just not really viable financially (unless you're able and willing to pour substantial amounts of money into this). Maybe there is stuff out there like that already, but I've never seen it.
for the Mach E, it’s all computers. It’s not gonna be fun to work on them bc all you have to do is code them. for the actual muscle car, you can swap engines and tune the crap out of them. By tightening bolts and swapping parts, that is what makes a project car a project car
Love to see Justin get more energetic on camera!!
I'm so ready for people to do Maverick builds, they looks so good.. I've been waiting since they came out man
Buschur has started tinkering already
The way some Charger owners have “modded” them to hell with ridiculous lights, stickers, etc. is the exact reason I traded my Scat Pack in. Not to mention how many are seen in side shows, street races, or being stolen
Really surprised you guys didn’t mention the discontinued ICE WRX STI
You guys missed the BRZ/GT86/FRS. Definitely going to be one of the best tuner cars for the future. Still a good episode. Keep up the good work.
If there’s enough running boxers left to mod.
as an european we can allready forget the first 3 you talk about, sadly those are rare here for the beginning, and they are not cheap AT ALL. and even worse, they are banning combustion engines everywhere... and EVEN WORSE: some countries like germany and england at least let you mod classics to electrify them (some will say that its a blasphemy) but here in france a law forbids any engine change in cars. even if it will actually save 2 cars for going to the junkyard and save nature as second hand project
You can put an EV engine in France in an old car, but you need to stay with the same amount of power. That's the saddest thing.
@@Zeveulesaussure yeah but it’s an electric car. Can’t you just put on a tune that you can switch over to for cruising and one for when you need to get it tested?
That sounds like a trivially easy way to get past that law.
@@Zeveulesaussure oh really they changed it ? A few years ago it still stated that you cant change the energy source of a car (like swapping a diesel for a petrol) including swapping combustion for EV
i thought a company in France was starting an electric conversion company using a Renault and the mini as starters?
@@mrs_radrod yeah, france is weird anyway. Like swapping is illegal, but you still can pass inspection without any problem even if your rx8 is ls swapped as long as co2 emissions still match the standard they dont care. Your car will pass inspection, but still insurance wont cover anything if you are involved in a crash. Inspection is a joke here
Btw… that 4pot eco boost mustang makes more power than my old V8 2001 Mustang did … 265 struggle ponies 😒😂.
Had a 2 litre turbo sonata pushing 276hp from 2012. Thing actually ripped, was definitely a sleeper (especially since there was no N line back then). Engine blew up, got it replaced for free, and then it got stolen like a month later
You know, in 10 years, you'll see *OLD* project cars become available such as the 55-57 Chevy Belair, Ford Model T, first gen Mustang, and numerous cars from the 30s to the 70s and the baby boomers pass away and their cars need to go somewhere!
I wouldn't worry *AT* *ALL* about project cars, we'll have millions to pick from in 10-20 years.
I would’ve also included the Q50 it seems like it’ll be a good project car in the future
Q50 Redsport is a sleeper tbh
I was going to say this…they totally missed out on Q50/Q60 and any B58 BMW.
I believe until we standardize the battery's, an electric car would cheap, but a new battery would be insane $$$.
It’s been great to see Justin already transform so quickly into an amazing presenter, I remember his first video he didn’t seam quite camera trained yet, but now he’s awesome! Super funny and knowledgeable
People in the comments saying “the charger will never be collectible because they made to many of them”. That’s often times where collectibility comes from, they were mass produced, TONS of people owned one, and now they’re older and nostalgic about it. Mark my words, in 25 years this current style of charger will be collectible, the challengers especially
That Kia Stinger seems like what Lexus did with the GS and how those hit aftermarket really well
I can’t wait for the return of mini trucks, one of the most unique scenes out there
Those bagged s10s were the shit back in the day
Trucks that you can't use for truck stuff because it'll damage it and there's stuff already in the bed.
I’m so happy the Supra is getting a manual! Probably is reaction to the Nissan z
I'll be exactly 30 by 2033. Watching this makes me wonder and hope that if the stars aligned, one of these cars or some other unlisted cars will become the main element of the classic "me and my dad built this" story.
I died laughing at 1:22 as nolan began beating his guitar on the ground cuz he said his riff wasn’t good and then he just walked away like nothing happened
I don’t feel like any current ev will carry through to being wanted in the future. Ev technology will likely improve a lot by then. Or hopefully go away.
The Kia stinger is a really fun car, so much that the WA cops use them!
No shit? Lmao that would be something wild to see
@@user-hs2wu2br47q Australia uses them as police cars too
These videos is the thing we need
My current project car is a 1995 Chevrolet Camaro, it's actually my first car I bought in 2005. I'm performing an LS3 swap, as well as from 4L60E to T56 Magnum. It's gonna be siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Traded my F-150 for a maverick. Absolutely in love with it! Hauls everything (including hauling a$$ down the road)!
Lets be honest, every car can be a good project car in the future as long as the price doesnt stay the same, or if its electric.
Great episode! Out of all the personalities you have been trying Justin is by far one of the best. Had me laughing everyone is crashing making prices high..... truth
"it's a Honda there's tons of aftermarket support"
*Cries in j35*
Ayo Justin's energy is extremely well matched with James
With the coming onslaught of electrification coming, this does bring up an interesting point. Will the Model S and its variants need a modified 'vintage' car clause put on the books when 'motor swaps' and battery packs need upgrading? (Yeah, they probably don't have that kind of shelf life beyond even 5 years, however one can hope SynGas becomes a thing.)
God, the very idea sickens me, but that's the way of the future *gag*
Syngas?
@@samjohannes9969 The idea has been around a long time (I believe I looked into it in the late 90s, but even before then) of refining coal into gasoline (SynGas is the industry generic term), as the US has extensive coal deposits and the gasification process isn't terribly difficult. It would have been a bridge from getting away from OPEC to the US self-fueling the energy market, but too many hands wanting 'grease' keeps it from going mainstream, among environmental issues of course.
Model S cars have been around for more than 5 years already.
the future is doomed because of those ugly boring electric abominations
Kia Stinger GT is the only ICE comparable in cost and value to the AWD Tesla Model 3, and they cost the same amount…
I am a proud owner of a 2022 Maverick and without a doubt, this truck is gonna be the next S10/Syclone.
I do have one pet peeve though: The 8-speed transmission I have with my 2.0L Ecoboost is rather annoying. The gear ratio is too short and downhill deceleration leaves my heart racing a-bit that I have to gradually double brake for the gears to align with my stopping distance, BUT!... in "Sport" mode the power is insane; gear selection is active; and stiffening of the suspension makes for a great experience driving (even in the city).
Lexus and Toyota will never depreciate “A LOT”
Guh, just teaching my kids manual is gonna be a challenge... 😅 But I hope they can have a couple of these cars in 2033!
Edit: Actually, Jesus, both my kids won't even be learning how to drive yet! 🤣
Hopefully the government won't have banned cars by then and forced us all into electric self-driving community rideshares.
I think EV motors will be the hot rods of the future--they're going to be easier to swap, methinks. You could just drop those motors out, and stick beastier ones in.
Fun drinking game: Take a shot every time James or Justin hits the table!
this is assuming certain states/countries don't just ban gas cars entirely. I am pretty sure that California already has a goal by 2030 to ban all gas cars.
Watching Nolan destroy guitar and walk away was so funny. His exit had such a power stance.
Strongly disagree with with Tesla 3... after 10 years the battery will need replacing... they cost $25,000.
Everybody knows that 276 horsepower was a mutual gentleman's agreement between Japanese car manufacturers. The skyline has more than 276 but on paper it was 276
the Miata deserves its flowers.