These commenters saying “well it could be worse! Just look at what is like” are completely missing the point. Pushing for more consumer friendly practices in order to help grow the game is not a bad thing and should absolutely be done, regardless of whether your preferred megacorporation is more or less awful than somebody else’s
The crazy thing is that in literally every other game, it's "Well, it could be worse! Just look at Yugioh!" And they're usually right. Which says a lot about not just how bad Yugioh is, but how bad Yugioh is in literally every conceivable way. It's practically a miracle this game is still lumbering along, especially outside Japan - purely on nostalgia and momentum. The game is dead. The head was cut off in early 2020, with the banlists, the new pull rates, the new staple cards and archetypes, the refusal to reprint cards, and it's running around like a chicken. The people who say "BuT mUh YcS aTtEnDaNcE!" are just pointing out how fast the chicken is running. Eventually, the chicken will fall over.
I remember how in older days, everyone complained about how Upper Deck managed the game; starting with the rarity changes, skipping entire structure decks and reprint sets, cards like Crush card virus being ridiculously expensive and hard to get, increasing set sizes with Ocg imports and Tcg exclusives...a lot of things. Then when Konami regained control of the TCG, everyone was happy and hoped that the game would improve....but many years passed and not only Konami kept doing the same as Upper deck, in many ways it got worse. So sad.
@@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 Hard to say due the lawsuit and the millions of dollars in damages for counterfeit cards that Konami alleged back then. I doubt that Konami would be very welcoming to them with open arms after that. I mean Upper Deck admiting that half a million of counterfeit cards were made by them, would make anyone wary of them .
Konami‘s products need to be investigated for potential gambling targeted towards kids. By potential gambling, I mean, blatantly obvious gambling targeting children. “Ages 6+” 🤡
I agree, but this could (and should) apply to every single game in the market which has a random component..including TCG games and, of course, gacha games..
I believe the law in the USA that regulates gambling allows exceptions for products like trading cards because you always get something from the product. In traditional gambling there is an expectation that when you gamble money there is the potential that you get nothing in return. So no under legal definitions of gambling trading card games of all kinds do not count as gambling.
I ain't gonna lie bro I can't put my hardworking money into something when the company making doesn't give a shit about me. Had a friend come back into yugioh he had the money and bought himself a optimul tearlaments deck (he likes fishwamen) kitkalous got banned week after.
@@simonwilliams737 As much as this sounds sad but it's actually just a dumbass move of your friend. I don't wanna defend Konamis shitty practices, but don't buy a god damn overpriced Meta deck like Tearlaments and expect it to not get hit by the banlist. Everyone who didn't think this would happen at some point, deserves to lose their money there.
@@simonwilliams737 the player base of yugioh (at least in florida and las vegas) has always been super awesome and nice, ive enjoyed every single duel ive played in a tournament setting.
@@simonwilliams737to be fair that one is kinda on him. That was pretty obvious that was going to happen. However had a friend trying to get back into the competitive scene invest into purrely, then the new banlist happened.
This is a great video. I don’t see why so many people still believe criticizing the developers of a game equals “you hate the game”. There are plenty of ways for a company to make money via making their product or service the best it can possibly be for the consumer.
Exactly! I'm not mad at the horrendous pull rates or horrible ban list decisions because I hate the game. I want the game to be as accessible to as many people as possible while still letting Konami turn a profit.
Because people who think ygo is flawless have smooth brains and can't comprehend basic criticism or logic. They're literally in the matrix and will fight to defend it even tho it's actively bad for them
People have been trained by changes to treat any criticism of the company especially of its bad business practices as if it was a personal attack on THEM.
We're in the age when consumerism is at its peak. Anyone who get in the way of people coming to consume products is a villain in their eyes. AAA games for example are getting worse because the developers just banking on people preordering their game first and they'll polish it later.
Case by case basis, there are times where criticism is misplaced, embellished or unjustified. There’s valid criticism and then there’s people misplacing their anger.
EDIT: I CAN’T BELIEVE IT BUT KONAMI JUST REVEALED A RARITY COLLECTION FOR US USING THE SAME HOLO TECHNOLOGY AS THE OCG SET Konami is a total mystery to me. They could give us a rarity collection like the OCG gets, that is FILLED with staples and cool bonus rarities (such as Ash Blossom in Ultimate/Collector/Quarter Century), make it a REASONABLE price, and they would have profits out the absolute ASS. They'd make a killing beyond even their wildest dreams off that one set alone. There are so many ways they could turn an even better profit without actively trying to kill their own market as they currently are. It's absolutely astounding.
Like the author of this video has said before, they could, but there is no reason to because there is no competition in the TCG market. Konami has already abandoned the idea of getting new players into the game. I guess extorting the existing player base is enough to sustain their business model. The only way I see the TCG adopting the OCG card printing model is if there is an exodus of players from this game to new card games like One Piece, Grand Archive, and My Hero Academia.
It’s crazy how the OCG most expensive card last format was Fenrir being a 14$ rare is just mind blowing to me. Like I wish we could boycott Konami. This is why I only play rouge and only buy singles.
@@Theoneandonly508 That's ROGUE, not ROUGE. Rouge is a color and a character from the Sonic franchise. Rogue is an individual that's no longer working within the bounds they've been given within a job or the archetype of a more brutal thief.
One thing that I love about OCG yugioh compared to TCG yugioh… is how it’s treatment of newer players. Last year the OCG released a set called the utility set for $30-ish… they get a deck box, dice and has promo card of some of the most chased cards in yugioh at that time such as goddess, assesscode and whatnot… TCG would never do this and would force the newer players to dump incredible amounts of money into the game
Shit, I mean I wish we had something equivalent to pokemon ETBs. The last time they did something similar were those JOTL special edition boxes that came with those shitty transparent sleeves. What they did with MAMA was cool but its been 10 years since they gave us actual sleeves yet OCG has had Konami sleeves all this time. Another thing would be those 6 pack boxes that pokemoncenter sells. I dont plan on buying a pokemon BB because they go for over $100 and sometimes I dont want all the bulk from ETBs so those 6 pack boxes are a nice alternative. Konami doesnt have those. You have to spend $60-$80 on boosters to get packs from a set and buying loose packs is so sus because of the fear of them being throwaway packs where the retailer already pulled the money card or its a bundle of weighed packs. I wish Konami would give us more stuff but you either have to buy boosters, deal with shitty side sets, deckbuilder sets with worse pull rates than core sets or wait till the end of the year for the tins. Even the structure decks can be pretty hit or miss. It's crazy how there are people who think it's okay for a hobby to be so expensive too. I saw on twitter some public figures saying it's just how a hobby is. I'd be inclined to agree BUT we can see how OCG is treated compared to TCG and thats why people are up in arms about it.. Why is one region given more access to relevant cards and merch than the other?
So glad someone is tackling this issue. This is the reason I stopped competing; after investing hundreds of dollars into decks that were quickly powercrept or destroyed by random banlists and realizing I would need to spend nearly $1000 for interesting competitive decks within a few months
Honestly, all this is pretty bad from Konami, but in the end it's really the players faults. As long as there are sweaty tryhard people who's mindset is "I don't care how much money I spend in this game, as long as I win.", this all will never change.
they may be a minority of players, but the sheer value of money they give konami is much greater than the money they lose from pissing everyone else off
@@Sillimant_ Thats a common misconception tho. Casual players bring in the greatest revenue for any TCG. Sweaty nerds arent really that important for companies.
@@Luna-Starfrost Sweaty metawhales are only the majority of vocal/active players - the subreddit, the FB groups, YCS attendees, yugitubers. The "Yugioh community". They are the minority of the potential playerbase.
I really hate konami because of their way of ripping people of. Alot of Players wanted to Play the New Vanquish Souls, but after they saw the 17 UR everybody backed Off, except some Meta Players. Spending 450€ on a Deck ist stupid. 3 Ultra rares in 24 Packs, are you crazy? And lock all the cool Decks behind this paywall. ITS so sad, because Yu-Gi-Oh is such a cool Game.
i bought wild survivors for the dinos, but because nearly all UR's are vanguish souls, i would have to pay 30-40 euro for ground xeno, which you want/need 3 of. impossible to pull.
@@Luna-Starfrostthey are only trash if you are looking into being competitive. They are wonderful, functional decks that work great in a more fun, casual environment.
The main problem is that there is no main movement or push for change for Konami to actually want to change there way. Like So far I believe your the only yugioh RUclipsr that is shining light on this problem and I want there to be change on this too. Like I’m tired of the stuff we get in tcg while in the ocg they get secret utility boxes and all that good stuff. That’s what makes the Pokémon tcg side so much better then the Yugioh tcg side is they sell special boxes of cards with Guarantee ex card’s and all that with competitive decks battle sets as well for cheap prices. I might make make a video myself showing Konami and the community on how things can be different in this game
We need more of the REAL reprints in LOWER rarities...Whats the point of Prosperity being "reprinted" again in another secret rare? Should have been Ultra in the tins but nooooo....God forbid you have higher chance of getting a good card you really need for your decks because you get 2 ultra from 1 mega pack and 3 megapacks which is 6 ultras in total....
Thanks for compiling all these videos into library of Konami's anti consumer behavior. Someone had to say it and you've been extremely articulate about what they do wrong, giving examples of this behavior, and informing players about where we go from here.
YGO Omega is free and also has access to all of the cards immediately (No grind needed like Master Duel). It also has a growing community and hosts a lot of tournaments on the phone and computer version. Card sleeves, background can be customised while also having the option to make ur monsters standing holograms, plus having animations for boss monsters.
I'd like to add that the yugitubers (some of them) also contirbute to that by not talking how Konami is shady and manipulating the audience with the cards and boxes, just look at the pulls they get from the sets shown in the sponsered videos.
despite the number of editing mistakes that i wish you would have fixed, this is a great video and more people need to be made aware of these problems, especially ygo players and streamers who i feel are most likely to dismiss it outright because of the title/subject matter. i really appreciate the segment at the end that goes over what we can do, so the video is not all just doom and gloom but is helpful for people who love the game.
It's a great video, this should be spread out through the communities on the internet more and raise higher awareness of those subjects. Even people like MBT already made Videos that go in this direction rather recently and it's about time that we, as the people in the OCG did, raise our voice and force Konami to change their practice in the whole western hemisphere.
I was at the German nationals this weekend. They told me that the evil twin ich Playmat they were selling for 120 € was a entry gift for attending an ocg ycs like tournament. The entry gift also contained a 25th anniversary starlight rare evil twin card + field Center. They were selling the whole pack for 250€. Fuck us for not changing our behavior and fuck Konami's TCG policies. At least we don't have Maxx c
The worst thing about this is that this is only an issue in the TCG(Americas, Euro, Oceanic). In the OCG(Asia) they get all the reprints, exclusive products, and most importantly obtaining meta relevant cards is incredibly easy. It is very suspicious and honestly just greedy from Konami. Awful company.
Imagine if Konami's solution to dealing with broken decks was by balancing existing low and mid tier cards by giving them better support instead of introducing newer even more broken decks.
The sad part is, it doesn't really matter what the consumer does. If yugioh starts losing profit, komani will just abandon ship and stick with the OCG market.
I have been only buying singles since 2019 when I got into the game competitively, and I have been playing older formats since they can't powercreep my deck if they can't change a format that's already passed. I've been playing Geargia Karakuri in HAT format and it's been amazing, there's no way I'd go back to the modern format where decks are ridiculously pricey and get rotated out so quickly
@@succubusYT One of the big reasons I love the format is that I get to play Geargias. That is my favorite archetype of all time and was what got me into yugioh in the first place. My casual years were pretty much locked in HAT format with our cardpool and deck choices being cards from that Era. Tl Dr; I have a lot of nostalgia for that format, and the gameplay holds up nicely, at least for the kind of Yugioh I enjoy
@@JakeTheJay I myself engaged in heavy rogue infernity pioneering that format to combat the pay to win. Dice roll was secured until I got a ban after that so that's probably why I never think about going back to a format for a second. Infernity got me into this game
@@thotslayer9914 No, very few players ever get that far. You don't have to reach the very top to understand the meta and how competitive Yugioh works and to have an opinion on how it plays
I totally agree with Konami’s practice of printing certain cards in higher rarities, for example Vanquish Soul. I play tested the deck for a month and was really excited to pick up the cards to play at locals, but with virtually the entire deck printed at the highest rarity for the set it really annoyed me, and now I can’t even play the deck IRL. 😔
I would spend more money on this game if decks were easier to make from buying product. The game would be much more popular. And I could make more friends through the game. I'm mad at Konami.
Agree with so many things you said in this video. I knew Konami was scummy ever since Secret Forces, but wow. Learning about the different card prints between TCG and OCG just makes me mad.
It's not surprising Konami does stuff like this. They make and distribute slot machines. They might call themselves a gaming company, but gambling is their MO.
It’s such a pain in the ass with how Yugioh is nowadays. Konami being scummy as hell. Not anywhere near enough people in the community are doing anything about this. Balance being just a mess. It’s rough.
I recently got back to Yu-Gi-Oh! and the first thing I thought was, when experiencing the Competitive scene for the first time "Well this is amazing, this game deserves more recognition and a bigger fan base", but then I realized why it doesn't, after taking a closer look at the game, the player base and the COMPANY MANAGING IT. This video sums a part of it pretty well.
Currently i am a collector but started to grab some OCG stuff because they made the starlight rares out of reach for most players like myself, the OCG equivalent has a much better pull rate and some of them are within the budget of casual players. When i go back to japan for a holiday i would like to pick up some OCG cards.
I don’t feel I’m asking much, they already print in a dozen different languages, it’s just translation of reprints. Rush is legit fun It would give a nice midrange to YGO, modern for $$$, Speed for affordable and Rush in between.
I've only ever bought singles online and opened packs won from tournaments, one day I wish Konami made products I really genuinely get excited to buy and play with.
You know when casual/mid-income player starts to look into Yugioh as a stock market and need to buy low/sell high otherwise they can't afford the next meta deck, your game has a problem... This happens in the OCG too buy by a faaaar far less extent.
I finally had enough a few months ago and left yugioh. it sucked, but I wasn't getting what I wanted. sure, wotc may only be _slightly_ better than konami, but when they sold those 60 fake magic the gathering cards for $1000 I made sure my printer was ready to run and have been proxying anything I didn't desperately want in paper. just like the yugioh tcg, japan gets treated a LOT better than the west. I believe it's because there's a lot of competition for card games over there, like wotc's own duel masters still going strong over there, whereas yugioh, magic, and pokemon are the big three in the west and it's hard for any other game to get a footing. where I work they sell dragon ball tcg items, and I swear I'm the only person who has bought any, and I only did it out of curiosity, with my staff discount and a staff shopping week discount. to summarise, it would be better if the game was more like the ocg, but due to lack of competition and the difficulty of a new game finding a niche it just won't happen anytime soon. it will be the doom of tcgs if they don't step it up
I think that OCG and TCG should unify so that they can not see wich cards are good and rarity bump them or short print them, they could still predict that maybe but it would not be so bad. There is NO REASON for yugioh to have 2 separate versions in this day and age. 20 years ago i could understand it but bro JUST UNIFY THE REGIONS
The rarities for TCG are already decided many months in advance. They already have to predict which cards will be the best from a given set. There isn't enough time to wait for what happens in OCG.
While i do think that changes need to be made on Konami's part, i dont think that everyone stopping theur habit of buying cards would receive the desired result. Konami hates communicating with thejr players and listening to their input (for reasons beyond us), so if yugioh stopped making them money, they would probably just stop making cards altogether and yugioh would be basically another dead TCG in the world. In some ways, there is nothing we can do to get konami to listen to us and make things healthier. They don't have much incentive to listen to us.
I was a long-time yugioh player. Started when the game came out. Even back then, it was ridiculous. Things like mechanicalchaser and gemini elf were running a 100+ even back then. Nowadays, konami just doesn't care about their players. You can even see that with their top-tier tournament prizing. It's also hard because my friends and I played for years throughout high school and afterwards, I grew away from the competitive side due to the price tag, so I would do rogue decks. More fun that way, but the player base has grown so toxic that if your deck can't afford 4 months of rent, then why bother? They will just ridicule the hell out of you for it. Game was fun in the beginning. Now it just seems like a chore.
yeah I stopped buying sealed product and even expensive staples after realizing what Konami is doing outside of OCG land. Legit 0 care for their customers, we're just money bags to milk as hard as they can, actually disgusting
My wife and i are Pokemon tcg live players but the app is really terrible right now. After learning how to play this game for hours on the internet we decided to download master duel. We spent 10,000 accumulated free gems, building a purrley and kashtira deck. We both got bad pulls mostly and decided to pay for gems as a support to the company. We were flabbergasted at the price for gems? $70.99 USD for less than 5000 gems?????! We must pay this much to take a gamble on cards we need? Why can’t we get crafting points if we are spending this much of our hard earned money? The learning curve of modern yugioh isn’t enough of a hassle? Long story short we deleted this game and never looked back. I hope the EU looks into this.
I only enjoy playing yugioh with friends since it’s casual and we try and make decks that are around the same power level. We also give each other cards that can help each other out. I have been playing Speed Duels with a friend that is trying to learn the game and it’s probably the best way to learn with how complicated the game is now.
The thing that has always erked me almost since I’ve began playing this game is the fact you *can not* under ANY circumstance use Japanese cards with the English cards. I get that the OCG cards are printed on a thicker (and better) stock than the TCG. I feel like the main reasoning is separation of the two as it would cannibalize the TCG sales as the OCG cards are generally cheaper. I still play the game, but it’s at the bare minimum casual. No banlist, just random bs go brrrrr causal level of jank. I’m evening considering to incorporate buying OCG cards of the “staples” so my friend and I can be “like the pros”
While i believe the consumers and (especially) the youtubers ought to speak up about the issue and act on it, imo, the fastest way to fix this, would be to have the vendors banding together to simply not purchase a select few sets. forcing konami to eat such a loss, alongside a well worded message from the fans about the absolute *chasm* of difference between tcg and ocg quality, would likely be the most effective way to get the message across. i remember buying a japanese set of ETCO and pulling what their version of a starlight, and then pulling multiple other high rarity, but actually good cards from the set as well. the difference in set quality between the two sides of konami is absolutely staggering.
To be perfectly clear: I do not disagree with the fact that Konami does do a lot of anti-consumer practices and I fucking hate it. Please do not take this comment as me disagreeing with that. That said, no, Colossus cannot come back. Not now, not ever. Sky Striker could have been full power a year ago and nothing bad would have happened. Orcust should have 3 Harp. Nothing about those would significantly change the metagame. Colossus is a fucked up card that should have never been printed and I'm happy that Konami has decided to keep it on the banlist. Self-protecting floodgates are the antithesis of fun gameplay.
One big problem I have with the methods, is the following: -It creates so much waste to print useless commons multiple times the amount of useful cards. It is basically spending on environmental destruction. At least digital lootboxes don’t require natural resources.
This whole video reminds me of my frustration back in 2011, when I was trying to put together Dark Worlds on the first go round of their structure deck. I wanted to get Fabled Raven and Pot of Duality for the deck (or Duality in general, it was a great card). Fabled Raven was less than 4 bucks each, only available in DT in Japan, but we got it as a secret rare a year before and was 40 apiece. Pot of Duality was a 120 secret rare for us, when it was a 5 dollar card for Japan. I remember thinking just how frustrating it was that even the more casual cards like Raven were inaccessible to a then-high schooler like myself, and made me consider focusing more on Magic. In hindsight, definitely should have gone that route, considering dual lands were 70 and below back then... but that's a different topic.
My late dad actually dealt with Konami directly when he worked for GamesTech, he found them... difficult to deal with and let's jus say it's an understatement to say that that was putting it charitably! I'm going to have to look into this Dueling Book proper, I had a quick gander and they allow custom cards? I jus so happen to have a Custom Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck for which I am particularly well known that is based on the Chinese Zodiac and uses the 12 Devas Digimon as a base and also uses proxies for which I have a couple of Deck Profiles up! I also have another one that I was working on before and the only deck I feared based on the 8 Legendary Dragons from Final Fantasy VI, plus another couple of fun ideas I've had floating around in my head, one based on RPG Job Classes and the other one, the Monsters are not Gemini Monsters, their Effect is that they are treated as Normal Monsters while on the Field, it's in the Hand and Graveyard where they get their Effects off, playing off of one another and other Normal Monsters! On another more pressing note, I didn't notice the Attribute Printing on the Quarter Century Rare cards, I have all but the Dark Magician and two Obelisk (I am looking to trade) and I went and had a look and wow... On Blue-Eyes it looks like the letters "LIGHT" have been shrunk, Slifer and both Obelisk say "DIVINO" (is that Italian? I did GCSE French, so...), Red-Eyes has "OSCURITO", no idea... Ra is not very clear, it looks something like "GOTTLIC"? No idea! German, maybe? I'm English, so I apologise to any Italians or Germans out there reading this! I wouldn't mind but the other Red-Eyes, Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes and Gods are alright! Mind boggles... Made worse by the fact they're all flawless and yet say "Red-Eyes Black Dragon" as well... Well, as flawless as you can expect from Konami...
Dueling Book is amazing for custom cards. They have a built-in custom card creator and you can keep your collection private while you play test it, or make it public to share it with other players. All you have to do is know problem-solving card text to make the effects clear to other players and to avoid the ruling nightmares that are so frequent in the site as it is not an automated duel simulator (and don't get me started on the troll or broken cards made by kids). Lastly, there's the issue of the card artwork, but I've heard AI has got you covered on that in case you're not artist (or are too cheap to get art commissions lol). P.S: DIVINO is DIVINE in both Spanish and Italian. GOTTLICH is DIVINE in German. ESCURITO is DARK in Portuguese.
This sucks because I actually just started to play tcg and doing tournaments (i bombed regionals but it was a learning experience and I got some good trades in) But the fact that it costs an assload of money to build a deck makes me think that I should stick to master duel for now.
Konami is actually the largest anti-drug company in the whole world. Imagine how many people there are that should be buying cards off of each other or that actually do it and as a result they got nothing left to buy drugs.
unfortunately this is exactly why i only ever play rogue strategies. they are cheap and dont always need staples, like agents or abyss actors. will i win a regional or ycs? probably not. but i guarantee ill have far more fun and spend hundreds less playing rogue.
This is why vietnamese people (like me) change from TCG to master duel or OCG, the price of OCG card is really cheaper. The only reason we play TCG at first is because we have nearly same alphabet as english so it is easier to read but by the time Komani become greedy, we can't handle such a expensive deck with our small payroll ( imagine $1 is around 23k vnđ and with that 23k, we can buy a low budget meal but still provide enough energy for us to work).
Just started watching: I’m wondering if you’re going to go over how they let Tear go for so long unchecked, let Kash go for a bit longer than what was expected, sold a bunch of SHS and Purrely product and then said, “Okay. You bought all that, but we’re using the ban list to make those decks almost not meta relevant anymore.” Cause oh boy! - if I had bought SHS just to only be able to play with it for a week or so before it got nerfed *AFTER* they just let Tear run wild, I would have been so pissed. Yes, I know SHS is still viable but it’s sus the way they let effectively pre-hit a deck before it even got a chance to do anything. If you’re going to pre-hit a deck, then keep people in the loop so they know *before* they buy the product.
As an outsider looking in, Yu-Gi-Oh TCG has gotten so much worse the past 5+ years for the consumer compared to OCG. It's just stupid how expensive it is now.
I just mainly get the Structure Decks, Deck Bases and Deck box sets now. As a soon to be dad, I cannot dump money into Yu-Gi-Oh! like I used to. Even if I did had the money to spare, I've noticed quite awhile ago that I might as well wait until the cards become cheap. If being able to play competitively equates to buying the new expensive cards every few months, then it really isn't about skill. It's about if you can afford to play. I agree, if Konami wants new players coming into Yu-Gi-Oh!, they need to take it down a notch with the prices and bump up the rarities and staples.
as someone who only bought Korean OCG cards (and stick with DL and MD mostly), I always hated how expensive a single card can be. I am very surprised to find the TCG is so much worse.. that sucks y’all Also, I also agree that Komoney definitely does not care about game balance. They only care about profit and will shamelessly use powercreep and banlist to do so. This is why even on Master Duel I never play competitively, and only open Secret Packs and barely touch Selection Packs. I don’t want to spend my dusts and gems on new OP cards just to be banned soon. No thanks, I’m sticking with meme-ing with my meta-irrelevant decks
korean, as far as I know, is the cheapest language. the ocg as a whole is cheaper than the tcg, and from what I gather most korean players use japanese cards. through supply and demand it ends up making korean the cheapest it's one reason I jumped to magic, and when wizards sold their own fake cards I knew it was time to fire up the printer
I remember my experience when I saw an YCS being held in Brazil (my country) and I wanted to buy a deck in order to just be able to play in the tournament.... and I was quickly devastated by how EXPENSIVE a meta deck WITHOUT EXTRA DECK INCLUDED, can be. Like holy shit, I could use that money to buy a lot more stuff, I could buy probably like 2 or 3 triple A games with that money for example, it was THAT ABSURD! I guess that's why I'll always stick to dueling book... or dueling network back in the day...
I use a printer or, since I only play magic now, use the blank dual face tokens and write on those printing a black and white version of a card that can be slipped into a sleeve in front of a bulk card makes mana crypt a £1000 card pennies to print and play
The player base for YGO sucks too. You forgot to mention that. They cry and throw fits over good cards and call them too powerful and ask for them to be banned vs learning how to play around them...
TCG players when Labrynth won with EEV and people screeched and howled that EEV should be banned, when Lab is practically the only deck that can use it, and not even consistently.
I've been on break from the TCG for a year now precisely because the "K" in Konami stands for "Krabs" as in Mr. Krabs from Spongebob. Whenever anyone calls out Konami's anti-consumer practices, toxic TCG players are quick to call the criticizers "Squidward" which doesn't negate the fact that Squidward is right.
Recently I was explaining to someone that this day and age YGO is more alike to gambling than to a kids game. The addiction comparison is also based; a feel like a Junkie ever since I got back to it from the Pandemic. A sink hole of $.
Something I feel like is worth bringing up is lost art promotions and how Konami censors cards. Konami iis rather infamous for censoring cards in the tcg throughout all of its existence. Goofy censorship which much later is removed for one time only promotional "lost art" prints. Sounds innocent and self aware enough until you realize they are still doing absurd censorship on cards to this day, for a card game that years now has been predominantly played been teens and adults. Absurd censors like removing a teeny tiny cleevage line from Kitt on the art for Tribe Drive, slightly lengthening the skirts on the Tear girls, and cover up the breasts on Alich of the Burning Abyss despite her beinng a TCG exclusive with art byba westert artist. This is all relevant because well...konami has done lost arts for more recent cards. Nurse Dragon Maid got a lost art print for one of the smallest and silliest censors in the game's history (removing two buttonss on her outfit that just happenedd to be placed bear her nipples) a year after the card's original printing. A one time only promotional lost art print, a single year after the card was released with an unoticable censor.
I'm so glad I stopped playing competitively back around the time Synchro-summoning was introduced. I probably saved myself thousands of dollars collecting cards that are outright worthless, banned or just plain useless now.
On the topic of power creep that you mention around 12:00 in - Zoodiac is a great example. Even if they got 3 Rat, 3 Drident and 3 Barrage tomorrow, they've been power crept out of the meta to such a degree just by cards that were manufactured in order to deal with bigger problems. Nibiru, Evenly Matched, Imperm, all of these cards were made to deal with decks even stronger than Zoodiac, and we're at a point where even landing a full Zoodiac combo (in a pure Zoodiac build of course) turn 1 means almost nothing because the opponent can Nib and destroy your board instantly for free and leave you with a hugely weak token (since all the Zoodiac XYZ cards have ? stats). Evenly Matched is also game-winning on its own since Zoo is so slow that they have no way to recover to play defense without backrow support or support from a splashed archetype. Then you have other crazy stuff that took off more and more as time went on, like Sphere Mode and Lava Golem, Giant Hand, etc. Zoodiac would get dumpstered by most meta deck's side deck because today's typical side deck is assembled with the intent and ability to punish even better decks than Zoo, even at max power. Which is a crazy concept considering what an immense powerhouse Zoodiac was in its prime.
@@lordbumus6087 I simply disagree. Nib would become a side deck staple overnight and deal with it easily. Evenly Matched would destroy them. 1 negate is not enough to combat any board on turn 2 or 3 so its either go first or lose, and even then half their combo can be Ash'd. X-Saber Invoker loses to Ash (the most common card in the game, factually) meanwhile Ash also beats every avenue to reach Ratpier. Every single reasonable deck in the current landscape of Yugioh is pre-equipped to deal with the tools that Zoodiac brings to the table + tools to deal with decks that are inherently stronger. Searching ANY beast-warrior is strong for Broadbull but the rest of the deck achieves nothing against full power Kashtira for example, which was the top of the meta when I left that original comment. I wholeheartedly believe that Zoodiac would be splashed in as an engine like Adventure at best to help further a different deck's end board. Zoodiac as a standalone strategy would crumble because 1 negate is not enough to pull through. Zoodiac was good because it was so fast, but the game has evolved to such a degree that Zoodiac doesn't bring anything unique to the table anymore other than the 1-card Xyz plays, which still rely on a lot of searching to accomplish generally. What would full power Zoodiac do vs a full power Ishizu Tearlament who can make their full board during your draw phase? Absolutely nothing. Removing the ban list from this hypothetical situation, Zoodiac has been power crept and there's no getting around it. As an engine its great because you get a lot of mileage off any of the Zoo main deck monsters, but standalone they are just not as good as they once were.
@@Quasartist they had to reban drident and barrage like 1-2 years to keep people from playing zoo trib. Drident is way too good, it would be splashed in a bunch of stuff
@@lordbumus6087 that's the original point I was making though, pure Zoo has been power crept. It would just be a 1~3 card splashable engine because so many other decks do what Zoodiac could do but better or faster.
Rarity Shafting.... It makes me cry, Yang Zing was completely fucked by this, and I couldn't afford the deck for years The problem with how they get away with this, people call them out, but more people deny these issues are happening and an issue.
Correction, they made every single vanquish soul monster that saw competitive play an ultra. There are a few cards that aren't, and those are the ones that weren't played in the ocg.
@@MonkeyFightTCG I double checked right now, every single VS MONSTER CARD is Ultra rare all 5 of them as well as the link monster and one spell(stake your soul), so 7 of the archetype cards are UR with 4 being also in there as collector rare including stake your soul the rest are all super rare with one trap being rare And it sucks because I don't play the physycal game anymore, yet I was looking foward to get at least one of each of these cards due to the theme, I only play MD
It frustrates me when I see an interesting card in the Ocg that has simply never been printed in the TCG and I know a lot of those cars are either so new that they haven’t had a chance to do them in the TCG or so old that they’re not worth printing to some but dang it, Japan has something that we don’t and I don’t care of that normal monster release near the beginning of the game isn’t competitively viable . I still want to have it.
I got back into yugioh in 2021, having played the early parts of the XYZ era I wanted to play a slower paced control kinda deck. I purchased a zoodiac core fairly cheaply and the main line up of handtraps and traps + 1 zeus (rest proxied). All for I think 160-220 USD. Anyway, out of thin air, random drident ban. Supposedly to nerf tri-brigade but I it didnt really at all. Very much a prime example of banning a card just cuz they couldnt make money off zoos anymore due to reprints + old prints, I believe the deck had done well in a tournament just a month before banlist. Deck was just rogue, nothing more nothing less. Started playing older formats shortly after.
Konami sucks..,its the GreeD....if Konami doesnt fix the shortprints and doesnt give a fu.. about the quality of cards any more...I"ll stop playing it...as simple as that...somebody needs to stand the tirany of Konami....WE NEED tHE ONE....and if this one falls...EVERYONE will stand UP FOR HIM....
Well at least we know who isn't on Konami's Christmas card list...😅. Fantastic video exposing the truth, very eye opening. Don't expect Konami sponsorship anytime soon though!
Honestly, though Konami's practices are very bad, the TCG only have themselves to blame. After the lawsuits with Upperdeck and 4K Media, YGO has been very reluctant to give TCG consumers/viewers the best they have to offer outside the Asian market. Almost like they are saying ”Since you Americans want to be greedy, you're gonna have to pay more for our stuff.” So, yes, racism plays a role in this...
These commenters saying “well it could be worse! Just look at what is like” are completely missing the point. Pushing for more consumer friendly practices in order to help grow the game is not a bad thing and should absolutely be done, regardless of whether your preferred megacorporation is more or less awful than somebody else’s
honestly I think konami is the worst to do this , there is no other game
I hate that "battered wife" mentality people have with companies these days
@@simonwilliams737have u seen what bushiroad did with Vanguard?
The crazy thing is that in literally every other game, it's "Well, it could be worse! Just look at Yugioh!" And they're usually right.
Which says a lot about not just how bad Yugioh is, but how bad Yugioh is in literally every conceivable way. It's practically a miracle this game is still lumbering along, especially outside Japan - purely on nostalgia and momentum. The game is dead. The head was cut off in early 2020, with the banlists, the new pull rates, the new staple cards and archetypes, the refusal to reprint cards, and it's running around like a chicken. The people who say "BuT mUh YcS aTtEnDaNcE!" are just pointing out how fast the chicken is running. Eventually, the chicken will fall over.
I remember how in older days, everyone complained about how Upper Deck managed the game; starting with the rarity changes, skipping entire structure decks and reprint sets, cards like Crush card virus being ridiculously expensive and hard to get, increasing set sizes with Ocg imports and Tcg exclusives...a lot of things. Then when Konami regained control of the TCG, everyone was happy and hoped that the game would improve....but many years passed and not only Konami kept doing the same as Upper deck, in many ways it got worse. So sad.
Maybe because the management that ran Upper deck moved to Konami and did the same shit they have always done?
@@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 Hard to say due the lawsuit and the millions of dollars in damages for counterfeit cards that Konami alleged back then. I doubt that Konami would be very welcoming to them with open arms after that.
I mean Upper Deck admiting that half a million of counterfeit cards were made by them, would make anyone wary of them .
Konami‘s products need to be investigated for potential gambling targeted towards kids.
By potential gambling, I mean, blatantly obvious gambling targeting children.
“Ages 6+” 🤡
It's mainly played by adults anyway, they could just change the marketing and remove censorship. Nothing much would change.
@@smoker6683 yeah.
This is a joke post right? What makes yugioh products different from other TCG products? Nothing lol shut up lol
I agree, but this could (and should) apply to every single game in the market which has a random component..including TCG games and, of course, gacha games..
I believe the law in the USA that regulates gambling allows exceptions for products like trading cards because you always get something from the product. In traditional gambling there is an expectation that when you gamble money there is the potential that you get nothing in return. So no under legal definitions of gambling trading card games of all kinds do not count as gambling.
konami doesnt deserve the yugioh fan base
its a fan base that has been used and abused for yrs but there is very little change in the community to combat it.
I ain't gonna lie bro I can't put my hardworking money into something when the company making doesn't give a shit about me. Had a friend come back into yugioh he had the money and bought himself a optimul tearlaments deck (he likes fishwamen) kitkalous got banned week after.
@@simonwilliams737 As much as this sounds sad but it's actually just a dumbass move of your friend.
I don't wanna defend Konamis shitty practices, but don't buy a god damn overpriced Meta deck like Tearlaments and expect it to not get hit by the banlist. Everyone who didn't think this would happen at some point, deserves to lose their money there.
@@simonwilliams737 the player base of yugioh (at least in florida and las vegas) has always been super awesome and nice, ive enjoyed every single duel ive played in a tournament setting.
@@simonwilliams737to be fair that one is kinda on him. That was pretty obvious that was going to happen. However had a friend trying to get back into the competitive scene invest into purrely, then the new banlist happened.
This is a great video. I don’t see why so many people still believe criticizing the developers of a game equals “you hate the game”. There are plenty of ways for a company to make money via making their product or service the best it can possibly be for the consumer.
Exactly! I'm not mad at the horrendous pull rates or horrible ban list decisions because I hate the game.
I want the game to be as accessible to as many people as possible while still letting Konami turn a profit.
Because people who think ygo is flawless have smooth brains and can't comprehend basic criticism or logic. They're literally in the matrix and will fight to defend it even tho it's actively bad for them
People have been trained by changes to treat any criticism of the company especially of its bad business practices as if it was a personal attack on THEM.
We're in the age when consumerism is at its peak.
Anyone who get in the way of people coming to consume products is a villain in their eyes. AAA games for example are getting worse because the developers just banking on people preordering their game first and they'll polish it later.
Case by case basis, there are times where criticism is misplaced, embellished or unjustified. There’s valid criticism and then there’s people misplacing their anger.
EDIT: I CAN’T BELIEVE IT BUT KONAMI JUST REVEALED A RARITY COLLECTION FOR US USING THE SAME HOLO TECHNOLOGY AS THE OCG SET
Konami is a total mystery to me. They could give us a rarity collection like the OCG gets, that is FILLED with staples and cool bonus rarities (such as Ash Blossom in Ultimate/Collector/Quarter Century), make it a REASONABLE price, and they would have profits out the absolute ASS. They'd make a killing beyond even their wildest dreams off that one set alone.
There are so many ways they could turn an even better profit without actively trying to kill their own market as they currently are. It's absolutely astounding.
Like the author of this video has said before, they could, but there is no reason to because there is no competition in the TCG market.
Konami has already abandoned the idea of getting new players into the game. I guess extorting the existing player base is enough to sustain their business model. The only way I see the TCG adopting the OCG card printing model is if there is an exodus of players from this game to new card games like One Piece, Grand Archive, and My Hero Academia.
Imagine if they did full art versions of cards like the Pokemon TCG.
Yea.. if that came out i would bought so many... but pff singles it is.
@@Tyler-Wiley or digimon tcg!!
It’s crazy how the OCG most expensive card last format was Fenrir being a 14$ rare is just mind blowing to me. Like I wish we could boycott Konami. This is why I only play rouge and only buy singles.
Rouge? What archetype is that?
And a better question is, why is an archetype themed around a single color?
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenesrouge is any deck that’s not tier 1 that can still compete like Dinos iirc
@@Theoneandonly508 That's ROGUE, not ROUGE. Rouge is a color and a character from the Sonic franchise. Rogue is an individual that's no longer working within the bounds they've been given within a job or the archetype of a more brutal thief.
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes🤓🤓🤓
Organise a mass boycott?
I’m down for it brother.
One thing that I love about OCG yugioh compared to TCG yugioh… is how it’s treatment of newer players. Last year the OCG released a set called the utility set for $30-ish… they get a deck box, dice and has promo card of some of the most chased cards in yugioh at that time such as goddess, assesscode and whatnot… TCG would never do this and would force the newer players to dump incredible amounts of money into the game
I play in Korea and most sets are $10-$30 per box. The fact that many popular cards are also rare makes it affordable to run meta decks.
Shit, I mean I wish we had something equivalent to pokemon ETBs. The last time they did something similar were those JOTL special edition boxes that came with those shitty transparent sleeves. What they did with MAMA was cool but its been 10 years since they gave us actual sleeves yet OCG has had Konami sleeves all this time. Another thing would be those 6 pack boxes that pokemoncenter sells. I dont plan on buying a pokemon BB because they go for over $100 and sometimes I dont want all the bulk from ETBs so those 6 pack boxes are a nice alternative. Konami doesnt have those. You have to spend $60-$80 on boosters to get packs from a set and buying loose packs is so sus because of the fear of them being throwaway packs where the retailer already pulled the money card or its a bundle of weighed packs. I wish Konami would give us more stuff but you either have to buy boosters, deal with shitty side sets, deckbuilder sets with worse pull rates than core sets or wait till the end of the year for the tins. Even the structure decks can be pretty hit or miss.
It's crazy how there are people who think it's okay for a hobby to be so expensive too. I saw on twitter some public figures saying it's just how a hobby is. I'd be inclined to agree BUT we can see how OCG is treated compared to TCG and thats why people are up in arms about it.. Why is one region given more access to relevant cards and merch than the other?
So glad someone is tackling this issue. This is the reason I stopped competing; after investing hundreds of dollars into decks that were quickly powercrept or destroyed by random banlists and realizing I would need to spend nearly $1000 for interesting competitive decks within a few months
Honestly, all this is pretty bad from Konami, but in the end it's really the players faults.
As long as there are sweaty tryhard people who's mindset is "I don't care how much money I spend in this game, as long as I win.", this all will never change.
they may be a minority of players, but the sheer value of money they give konami is much greater than the money they lose from pissing everyone else off
@@Sillimant_ Minority? Good joke.
Regulation by an overseeing body would stop it instantly.
@@Sillimant_ Thats a common misconception tho. Casual players bring in the greatest revenue for any TCG. Sweaty nerds arent really that important for companies.
@@Luna-Starfrost Sweaty metawhales are only the majority of vocal/active players - the subreddit, the FB groups, YCS attendees, yugitubers. The "Yugioh community".
They are the minority of the potential playerbase.
I really hate konami because of their way of ripping people of. Alot of Players wanted to Play the New Vanquish Souls, but after they saw the 17 UR everybody backed Off, except some Meta Players. Spending 450€ on a Deck ist stupid. 3 Ultra rares in 24 Packs, are you crazy? And lock all the cool Decks behind this paywall. ITS so sad, because Yu-Gi-Oh is such a cool Game.
But for those of us not interested in VS and wanted Nouvelle, it was a god send.
@@cba_2442 Still awful. VS and Nouvelles both are absolute trash decks and yet there is such a huge price difference between them.
i bought wild survivors for the dinos, but because nearly all UR's are vanguish souls, i would have to pay 30-40 euro for ground xeno, which you want/need 3 of. impossible to pull.
@@Luna-Starfrostthey are only trash if you are looking into being competitive. They are wonderful, functional decks that work great in a more fun, casual environment.
The main problem is that there is no main movement or push for change for Konami to actually want to change there way. Like So far I believe your the only yugioh RUclipsr that is shining light on this problem and I want there to be change on this too. Like I’m tired of the stuff we get in tcg while in the ocg they get secret utility boxes and all that good stuff. That’s what makes the Pokémon tcg side so much better then the Yugioh tcg side is they sell special boxes of cards with Guarantee ex card’s and all that with competitive decks battle sets as well for cheap prices. I might make make a video myself showing Konami and the community on how things can be different in this game
in germany there is one too, but yeah new policy can get both banned so...
There was one. Look up the ARG custom banlist case.
We need more of the REAL reprints in LOWER rarities...Whats the point of Prosperity being "reprinted" again in another secret rare? Should have been Ultra in the tins but nooooo....God forbid you have higher chance of getting a good card you really need for your decks because you get 2 ultra from 1 mega pack and 3 megapacks which is 6 ultras in total....
It’s such bullshit.
I cracked over 70 tins and never saw a single Prosperity.
What reprint???
Fuck this company.
Thanks for compiling all these videos into library of Konami's anti consumer behavior.
Someone had to say it and you've been extremely articulate about what they do wrong, giving examples of this behavior, and informing players about where we go from here.
YGO Omega is free and also has access to all of the cards immediately (No grind needed like Master Duel). It also has a growing community and hosts a lot of tournaments on the phone and computer version. Card sleeves, background can be customised while also having the option to make ur monsters standing holograms, plus having animations for boss monsters.
I'd like to add that the yugitubers (some of them) also contirbute to that by not talking how Konami is shady and manipulating the audience with the cards and boxes, just look at the pulls they get from the sets shown in the sponsered videos.
despite the number of editing mistakes that i wish you would have fixed, this is a great video and more people need to be made aware of these problems, especially ygo players and streamers who i feel are most likely to dismiss it outright because of the title/subject matter. i really appreciate the segment at the end that goes over what we can do, so the video is not all just doom and gloom but is helpful for people who love the game.
i fixed a lot of them. the earliest video is just a mess though.
It's a great video, this should be spread out through the communities on the internet more and raise higher awareness of those subjects. Even people like MBT already made Videos that go in this direction rather recently and it's about time that we, as the people in the OCG did, raise our voice and force Konami to change their practice in the whole western hemisphere.
The ocg has so many nice things. We get screwed over so bad.
I was at the German nationals this weekend. They told me that the evil twin ich Playmat they were selling for 120 € was a entry gift for attending an ocg ycs like tournament. The entry gift also contained a 25th anniversary starlight rare evil twin card + field Center. They were selling the whole pack for 250€. Fuck us for not changing our behavior and fuck Konami's TCG policies. At least we don't have Maxx c
If our packs and cards were the same as the OCG I would definitely be buying a ton of packs rather than a few singles on TCG player
The worst thing about this is that this is only an issue in the TCG(Americas, Euro, Oceanic). In the OCG(Asia) they get all the reprints, exclusive products, and most importantly obtaining meta relevant cards is incredibly easy. It is very suspicious and honestly just greedy from Konami. Awful company.
Imagine if Konami's solution to dealing with broken decks was by balancing existing low and mid tier cards by giving them better support instead of introducing newer even more broken decks.
With WISU, they don't even try to hide their intentions anymore. Not that it has been any better. But this is just outrageous and getting boring.
I really hope your video gets huge in the yugioh community and people boycott Konami, or, even better, push for gambling regulation of TCGs
The sad part is, it doesn't really matter what the consumer does. If yugioh starts losing profit, komani will just abandon ship and stick with the OCG market.
that would be extremally foolish on konami's part to do that. they will loose millions
Why are you so convinced of that?
I have been only buying singles since 2019 when I got into the game competitively, and I have been playing older formats since they can't powercreep my deck if they can't change a format that's already passed. I've been playing Geargia Karakuri in HAT format and it's been amazing, there's no way I'd go back to the modern format where decks are ridiculously pricey and get rotated out so quickly
You didn't get enough of that format or somethin man I could never.
@@succubusYT One of the big reasons I love the format is that I get to play Geargias. That is my favorite archetype of all time and was what got me into yugioh in the first place. My casual years were pretty much locked in HAT format with our cardpool and deck choices being cards from that Era.
Tl Dr; I have a lot of nostalgia for that format, and the gameplay holds up nicely, at least for the kind of Yugioh I enjoy
@@JakeTheJay I myself engaged in heavy rogue infernity pioneering that format to combat the pay to win. Dice roll was secured until I got a ban after that so that's probably why I never think about going back to a format for a second. Infernity got me into this game
@@thotslayer9914 I've competed in a few actually. Multiple YCS's and countless locals which often played the most optimized decks possible.
@@thotslayer9914 No, very few players ever get that far. You don't have to reach the very top to understand the meta and how competitive Yugioh works and to have an opinion on how it plays
I totally agree with Konami’s practice of printing certain cards in higher rarities, for example Vanquish Soul. I play tested the deck for a month and was really excited to pick up the cards to play at locals, but with virtually the entire deck printed at the highest rarity for the set it really annoyed me, and now I can’t even play the deck IRL. 😔
Thank you so much for theese videos, man.
They're just so great, not many people talk about this subject (even less in my country).
What happened to VS is like the worst one of them all imo, Konami making the deck 7 URs out of the 10 of the set is blatantly just greed
I would spend more money on this game if decks were easier to make from buying product. The game would be much more popular. And I could make more friends through the game. I'm mad at Konami.
Agree with so many things you said in this video. I knew Konami was scummy ever since Secret Forces, but wow. Learning about the different card prints between TCG and OCG just makes me mad.
It's not surprising Konami does stuff like this. They make and distribute slot machines. They might call themselves a gaming company, but gambling is their MO.
Konami isn’t just bad to yugioh, they also destroyed their other IPs: Silent Hill, MGS, Castlevania…..
It’s such a pain in the ass with how Yugioh is nowadays. Konami being scummy as hell. Not anywhere near enough people in the community are doing anything about this. Balance being just a mess. It’s rough.
I recently got back to Yu-Gi-Oh! and the first thing I thought was, when experiencing the Competitive scene for the first time "Well this is amazing, this game deserves more recognition and a bigger fan base", but then I realized why it doesn't, after taking a closer look at the game, the player base and the COMPANY MANAGING IT.
This video sums a part of it pretty well.
Currently i am a collector but started to grab some OCG stuff because they made the starlight rares out of reach for most players like myself, the OCG equivalent has a much better pull rate and some of them are within the budget of casual players. When i go back to japan for a holiday i would like to pick up some OCG cards.
OCG boxes are so much nicer than TCG boxes
They should properly bring Rush over stateside and product release it similar to other card games, taking into consideration the points in this video.
I don’t feel I’m asking much, they already print in a dozen different languages, it’s just translation of reprints. Rush is legit fun
It would give a nice midrange to YGO, modern for $$$, Speed for affordable and Rush in between.
"TCG boxes are a $20 product, bloated to $60, solely just to rip more money from the consumer." - MF TCG
I've only ever bought singles online and opened packs won from tournaments, one day I wish Konami made products I really genuinely get excited to buy and play with.
You know when casual/mid-income player starts to look into Yugioh as a stock market and need to buy low/sell high otherwise they can't afford the next meta deck, your game has a problem...
This happens in the OCG too buy by a faaaar far less extent.
Bro that Dueling Book reaction is just too freaking funny.
I finally had enough a few months ago and left yugioh. it sucked, but I wasn't getting what I wanted.
sure, wotc may only be _slightly_ better than konami, but when they sold those 60 fake magic the gathering cards for $1000 I made sure my printer was ready to run and have been proxying anything I didn't desperately want in paper.
just like the yugioh tcg, japan gets treated a LOT better than the west. I believe it's because there's a lot of competition for card games over there, like wotc's own duel masters still going strong over there, whereas yugioh, magic, and pokemon are the big three in the west and it's hard for any other game to get a footing. where I work they sell dragon ball tcg items, and I swear I'm the only person who has bought any, and I only did it out of curiosity, with my staff discount and a staff shopping week discount.
to summarise, it would be better if the game was more like the ocg, but due to lack of competition and the difficulty of a new game finding a niche it just won't happen anytime soon. it will be the doom of tcgs if they don't step it up
I think that OCG and TCG should unify so that they can not see wich cards are good and rarity bump them or short print them, they could still predict that maybe but it would not be so bad. There is NO REASON for yugioh to have 2 separate versions in this day and age. 20 years ago i could understand it but bro JUST UNIFY THE REGIONS
The rarities for TCG are already decided many months in advance. They already have to predict which cards will be the best from a given set. There isn't enough time to wait for what happens in OCG.
Individual consumers would be more likely to gamba on a box if the chances to get something reasonable wasnt so silly.
While i do think that changes need to be made on Konami's part, i dont think that everyone stopping theur habit of buying cards would receive the desired result. Konami hates communicating with thejr players and listening to their input (for reasons beyond us), so if yugioh stopped making them money, they would probably just stop making cards altogether and yugioh would be basically another dead TCG in the world. In some ways, there is nothing we can do to get konami to listen to us and make things healthier. They don't have much incentive to listen to us.
I wish cheaper formats such as GOAT or EDISON were more popular in my country.
I was a long-time yugioh player. Started when the game came out. Even back then, it was ridiculous. Things like mechanicalchaser and gemini elf were running a 100+ even back then. Nowadays, konami just doesn't care about their players. You can even see that with their top-tier tournament prizing.
It's also hard because my friends and I played for years throughout high school and afterwards, I grew away from the competitive side due to the price tag, so I would do rogue decks. More fun that way, but the player base has grown so toxic that if your deck can't afford 4 months of rent, then why bother? They will just ridicule the hell out of you for it.
Game was fun in the beginning. Now it just seems like a chore.
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Oh and to add insult to injury for Minerva.
In the OCG it was a super rare, in a core set.
Great informative video revealing Konami’s and Yugioh’s scummy business practice done for decades
yeah I stopped buying sealed product and even expensive staples after realizing what Konami is doing outside of OCG land. Legit 0 care for their customers, we're just money bags to milk as hard as they can, actually disgusting
My wife and i are Pokemon tcg live players but the app is really terrible right now. After learning how to play this game for hours on the internet we decided to download master duel. We spent 10,000 accumulated free gems, building a purrley and kashtira deck. We both got bad pulls mostly and decided to pay for gems as a support to the company. We were flabbergasted at the price for gems? $70.99 USD for less than 5000 gems?????! We must pay this much to take a gamble on cards we need? Why can’t we get crafting points if we are spending this much of our hard earned money? The learning curve of modern yugioh isn’t enough of a hassle? Long story short we deleted this game and never looked back. I hope the EU looks into this.
I only enjoy playing yugioh with friends since it’s casual and we try and make decks that are around the same power level. We also give each other cards that can help each other out. I have been playing Speed Duels with a friend that is trying to learn the game and it’s probably the best way to learn with how complicated the game is now.
The thing that has always erked me almost since I’ve began playing this game is the fact you *can not* under ANY circumstance use Japanese cards with the English cards. I get that the OCG cards are printed on a thicker (and better) stock than the TCG. I feel like the main reasoning is separation of the two as it would cannibalize the TCG sales as the OCG cards are generally cheaper. I still play the game, but it’s at the bare minimum casual. No banlist, just random bs go brrrrr causal level of jank. I’m evening considering to incorporate buying OCG cards of the “staples” so my friend and I can be “like the pros”
While i believe the consumers and (especially) the youtubers ought to speak up about the issue and act on it, imo, the fastest way to fix this, would be to have the vendors banding together to simply not purchase a select few sets. forcing konami to eat such a loss, alongside a well worded message from the fans about the absolute *chasm* of difference between tcg and ocg quality, would likely be the most effective way to get the message across.
i remember buying a japanese set of ETCO and pulling what their version of a starlight, and then pulling multiple other high rarity, but actually good cards from the set as well. the difference in set quality between the two sides of konami is absolutely staggering.
To be perfectly clear: I do not disagree with the fact that Konami does do a lot of anti-consumer practices and I fucking hate it. Please do not take this comment as me disagreeing with that.
That said, no, Colossus cannot come back. Not now, not ever. Sky Striker could have been full power a year ago and nothing bad would have happened. Orcust should have 3 Harp. Nothing about those would significantly change the metagame.
Colossus is a fucked up card that should have never been printed and I'm happy that Konami has decided to keep it on the banlist. Self-protecting floodgates are the antithesis of fun gameplay.
Agreed. Colossus locks down way too many decks that may not be able to out it.
i wouldn't be surprised to see a high amount of tcg players moving to MD just because of prices.
One big problem I have with the methods, is the following:
-It creates so much waste to print useless commons multiple times the amount of useful cards.
It is basically spending on environmental destruction.
At least digital lootboxes don’t require natural resources.
Who gives a crap about the environment? This is a yugioh video, not a platform for your hippy concerns.
Playing meta yugioh and talking to an Indian call centre are basically the same things
This whole video reminds me of my frustration back in 2011, when I was trying to put together Dark Worlds on the first go round of their structure deck. I wanted to get Fabled Raven and Pot of Duality for the deck (or Duality in general, it was a great card). Fabled Raven was less than 4 bucks each, only available in DT in Japan, but we got it as a secret rare a year before and was 40 apiece. Pot of Duality was a 120 secret rare for us, when it was a 5 dollar card for Japan. I remember thinking just how frustrating it was that even the more casual cards like Raven were inaccessible to a then-high schooler like myself, and made me consider focusing more on Magic. In hindsight, definitely should have gone that route, considering dual lands were 70 and below back then... but that's a different topic.
Best video ever about YuGiOh! and Konami that I've ever seen on RUclips.
Sadly stopped playing a year ago, because of this. But Omega is still very fun
My late dad actually dealt with Konami directly when he worked for GamesTech, he found them... difficult to deal with and let's jus say it's an understatement to say that that was putting it charitably! I'm going to have to look into this Dueling Book proper, I had a quick gander and they allow custom cards? I jus so happen to have a Custom Yu-Gi-Oh! Deck for which I am particularly well known that is based on the Chinese Zodiac and uses the 12 Devas Digimon as a base and also uses proxies for which I have a couple of Deck Profiles up! I also have another one that I was working on before and the only deck I feared based on the 8 Legendary Dragons from Final Fantasy VI, plus another couple of fun ideas I've had floating around in my head, one based on RPG Job Classes and the other one, the Monsters are not Gemini Monsters, their Effect is that they are treated as Normal Monsters while on the Field, it's in the Hand and Graveyard where they get their Effects off, playing off of one another and other Normal Monsters!
On another more pressing note, I didn't notice the Attribute Printing on the Quarter Century Rare cards, I have all but the Dark Magician and two Obelisk (I am looking to trade) and I went and had a look and wow... On Blue-Eyes it looks like the letters "LIGHT" have been shrunk, Slifer and both Obelisk say "DIVINO" (is that Italian? I did GCSE French, so...), Red-Eyes has "OSCURITO", no idea... Ra is not very clear, it looks something like "GOTTLIC"? No idea! German, maybe? I'm English, so I apologise to any Italians or Germans out there reading this! I wouldn't mind but the other Red-Eyes, Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes and Gods are alright! Mind boggles... Made worse by the fact they're all flawless and yet say "Red-Eyes Black Dragon" as well... Well, as flawless as you can expect from Konami...
Dueling Book is amazing for custom cards. They have a built-in custom card creator and you can keep your collection private while you play test it, or make it public to share it with other players. All you have to do is know problem-solving card text to make the effects clear to other players and to avoid the ruling nightmares that are so frequent in the site as it is not an automated duel simulator (and don't get me started on the troll or broken cards made by kids).
Lastly, there's the issue of the card artwork, but I've heard AI has got you covered on that in case you're not artist (or are too cheap to get art commissions lol).
P.S: DIVINO is DIVINE in both Spanish and Italian. GOTTLICH is DIVINE in German. ESCURITO is DARK in Portuguese.
This sucks because I actually just started to play tcg and doing tournaments (i bombed regionals but it was a learning experience and I got some good trades in) But the fact that it costs an assload of money to build a deck makes me think that I should stick to master duel for now.
Konami is actually the largest anti-drug company in the whole world. Imagine how many people there are that should be buying cards off of each other or that actually do it and as a result they got nothing left to buy drugs.
I stopped smoking weed so I could afford my Yugioh habit so this is factual
Facts
Great video! Thanks a lot for telling us about Nexus and the other websites.
unfortunately this is exactly why i only ever play rogue strategies. they are cheap and dont always need staples, like agents or abyss actors. will i win a regional or ycs? probably not. but i guarantee ill have far more fun and spend hundreds less playing rogue.
This is why vietnamese people (like me) change from TCG to master duel or OCG, the price of OCG card is really cheaper. The only reason we play TCG at first is because we have nearly same alphabet as english so it is easier to read but by the time Komani become greedy, we can't handle such a expensive deck with our small payroll ( imagine $1 is around 23k vnđ and with that 23k, we can buy a low budget meal but still provide enough energy for us to work).
Just started watching: I’m wondering if you’re going to go over how they let Tear go for so long unchecked, let Kash go for a bit longer than what was expected, sold a bunch of SHS and Purrely product and then said, “Okay. You bought all that, but we’re using the ban list to make those decks almost not meta relevant anymore.” Cause oh boy! - if I had bought SHS just to only be able to play with it for a week or so before it got nerfed *AFTER* they just let Tear run wild, I would have been so pissed.
Yes, I know SHS is still viable but it’s sus the way they let effectively pre-hit a deck before it even got a chance to do anything. If you’re going to pre-hit a deck, then keep people in the loop so they know *before* they buy the product.
This why I stopped buying packs I don't pull out what I am looking for instead I go for singles but good video bro
I mean, that's how every card game ever has worked.
As an outsider looking in, Yu-Gi-Oh TCG has gotten so much worse the past 5+ years for the consumer compared to OCG. It's just stupid how expensive it is now.
Going from magic to digimon you really do feel difference in the quality of the card.
I just mainly get the Structure Decks, Deck Bases and Deck box sets now. As a soon to be dad, I cannot dump money into Yu-Gi-Oh! like I used to. Even if I did had the money to spare, I've noticed quite awhile ago that I might as well wait until the cards become cheap.
If being able to play competitively equates to buying the new expensive cards every few months, then it really isn't about skill. It's about if you can afford to play. I agree, if Konami wants new players coming into Yu-Gi-Oh!, they need to take it down a notch with the prices and bump up the rarities and staples.
as someone who only bought Korean OCG cards (and stick with DL and MD mostly), I always hated how expensive a single card can be.
I am very surprised to find the TCG is so much worse.. that sucks y’all
Also, I also agree that Komoney definitely does not care about game balance. They only care about profit and will shamelessly use powercreep and banlist to do so.
This is why even on Master Duel I never play competitively, and only open Secret Packs and barely touch Selection Packs. I don’t want to spend my dusts and gems on new OP cards just to be banned soon. No thanks, I’m sticking with meme-ing with my meta-irrelevant decks
korean, as far as I know, is the cheapest language. the ocg as a whole is cheaper than the tcg, and from what I gather most korean players use japanese cards. through supply and demand it ends up making korean the cheapest
it's one reason I jumped to magic, and when wizards sold their own fake cards I knew it was time to fire up the printer
I remember my experience when I saw an YCS being held in Brazil (my country) and I wanted to buy a deck in order to just be able to play in the tournament.... and I was quickly devastated by how EXPENSIVE a meta deck WITHOUT EXTRA DECK INCLUDED, can be. Like holy shit, I could use that money to buy a lot more stuff, I could buy probably like 2 or 3 triple A games with that money for example, it was THAT ABSURD!
I guess that's why I'll always stick to dueling book... or dueling network back in the day...
I'd be down for using proxies if I had access to them. After all, lack of accessibility for certain cards is the whole reason this video was made.
buy a cheap printer or hell just draw your own. outside of that i understand
I use a printer or, since I only play magic now, use the blank dual face tokens and write on those
printing a black and white version of a card that can be slipped into a sleeve in front of a bulk card makes mana crypt a £1000 card pennies to print and play
The player base for YGO sucks too. You forgot to mention that. They cry and throw fits over good cards and call them too powerful and ask for them to be banned vs learning how to play around them...
TCG players when Labrynth won with EEV and people screeched and howled that EEV should be banned, when Lab is practically the only deck that can use it, and not even consistently.
i picked up 3 kurikara when it was going for 10-12 a piece crazy to see how it spiked a couple formats later
I've been on break from the TCG for a year now precisely because the "K" in Konami stands for "Krabs" as in Mr. Krabs from Spongebob.
Whenever anyone calls out Konami's anti-consumer practices, toxic TCG players are quick to call the criticizers "Squidward" which doesn't negate the fact that Squidward is right.
Recently I was explaining to someone that this day and age YGO is more alike to gambling than to a kids game. The addiction comparison is also based; a feel like a Junkie ever since I got back to it from the Pandemic. A sink hole of $.
OCG sets come out earlier, right? They can guage what the most popular cards are to make them rarer for us.
They do this exactly
Something I feel like is worth bringing up is lost art promotions and how Konami censors cards.
Konami iis rather infamous for censoring cards in the tcg throughout all of its existence. Goofy censorship which much later is removed for one time only promotional "lost art" prints.
Sounds innocent and self aware enough until you realize they are still doing absurd censorship on cards to this day, for a card game that years now has been predominantly played been teens and adults. Absurd censors like removing a teeny tiny cleevage line from Kitt on the art for Tribe Drive, slightly lengthening the skirts on the Tear girls, and cover up the breasts on Alich of the Burning Abyss despite her beinng a TCG exclusive with art byba westert artist.
This is all relevant because well...konami has done lost arts for more recent cards. Nurse Dragon Maid got a lost art print for one of the smallest and silliest censors in the game's history (removing two buttonss on her outfit that just happenedd to be placed bear her nipples) a year after the card's original printing. A one time only promotional lost art print, a single year after the card was released with an unoticable censor.
Awesome video this should be talked about more. Konami business model sounds illegal
You, sir, are a legend!
Man this is facts, I just recently got into yugioh and I've already spent like $200 and I only have 1 meta deck and a rogue deck
I'm so glad I stopped playing competitively back around the time Synchro-summoning was introduced. I probably saved myself thousands of dollars collecting cards that are outright worthless, banned or just plain useless now.
On the topic of power creep that you mention around 12:00 in - Zoodiac is a great example. Even if they got 3 Rat, 3 Drident and 3 Barrage tomorrow, they've been power crept out of the meta to such a degree just by cards that were manufactured in order to deal with bigger problems. Nibiru, Evenly Matched, Imperm, all of these cards were made to deal with decks even stronger than Zoodiac, and we're at a point where even landing a full Zoodiac combo (in a pure Zoodiac build of course) turn 1 means almost nothing because the opponent can Nib and destroy your board instantly for free and leave you with a hugely weak token (since all the Zoodiac XYZ cards have ? stats). Evenly Matched is also game-winning on its own since Zoo is so slow that they have no way to recover to play defense without backrow support or support from a splashed archetype. Then you have other crazy stuff that took off more and more as time went on, like Sphere Mode and Lava Golem, Giant Hand, etc. Zoodiac would get dumpstered by most meta deck's side deck because today's typical side deck is assembled with the intent and ability to punish even better decks than Zoo, even at max power. Which is a crazy concept considering what an immense powerhouse Zoodiac was in its prime.
Not true... zoo would instantly be tier 1 easily.
@@lordbumus6087 I simply disagree. Nib would become a side deck staple overnight and deal with it easily. Evenly Matched would destroy them. 1 negate is not enough to combat any board on turn 2 or 3 so its either go first or lose, and even then half their combo can be Ash'd. X-Saber Invoker loses to Ash (the most common card in the game, factually) meanwhile Ash also beats every avenue to reach Ratpier. Every single reasonable deck in the current landscape of Yugioh is pre-equipped to deal with the tools that Zoodiac brings to the table + tools to deal with decks that are inherently stronger. Searching ANY beast-warrior is strong for Broadbull but the rest of the deck achieves nothing against full power Kashtira for example, which was the top of the meta when I left that original comment. I wholeheartedly believe that Zoodiac would be splashed in as an engine like Adventure at best to help further a different deck's end board. Zoodiac as a standalone strategy would crumble because 1 negate is not enough to pull through. Zoodiac was good because it was so fast, but the game has evolved to such a degree that Zoodiac doesn't bring anything unique to the table anymore other than the 1-card Xyz plays, which still rely on a lot of searching to accomplish generally. What would full power Zoodiac do vs a full power Ishizu Tearlament who can make their full board during your draw phase? Absolutely nothing. Removing the ban list from this hypothetical situation, Zoodiac has been power crept and there's no getting around it. As an engine its great because you get a lot of mileage off any of the Zoo main deck monsters, but standalone they are just not as good as they once were.
@@Quasartist they had to reban drident and barrage like 1-2 years to keep people from playing zoo trib. Drident is way too good, it would be splashed in a bunch of stuff
@@lordbumus6087 that's the original point I was making though, pure Zoo has been power crept. It would just be a 1~3 card splashable engine because so many other decks do what Zoodiac could do but better or faster.
Rarity Shafting....
It makes me cry, Yang Zing was completely fucked by this, and I couldn't afford the deck for years
The problem with how they get away with this, people call them out, but more people deny these issues are happening and an issue.
Great video!
Totaly agree
They made every single Vanquish Soul monster a Ultra rare in TCG
Correction, they made every single vanquish soul monster that saw competitive play an ultra. There are a few cards that aren't, and those are the ones that weren't played in the ocg.
@@MonkeyFightTCG I double checked right now, every single VS MONSTER CARD is Ultra rare all 5 of them as well as the link monster and one spell(stake your soul), so 7 of the archetype cards are UR with 4 being also in there as collector rare including stake your soul
the rest are all super rare with one trap being rare
And it sucks because I don't play the physycal game anymore, yet I was looking foward to get at least one of each of these cards due to the theme, I only play MD
Not always about being able to afford it. I can afford it but sometimes I just think it's not worth it.
It frustrates me when I see an interesting card in the Ocg that has simply never been printed in the TCG and I know a lot of those cars are either so new that they haven’t had a chance to do them in the TCG or so old that they’re not worth printing to some but dang it, Japan has something that we don’t and I don’t care of that normal monster release near the beginning of the game isn’t competitively viable . I still want to have it.
I got back into yugioh in 2021, having played the early parts of the XYZ era I wanted to play a slower paced control kinda deck. I purchased a zoodiac core fairly cheaply and the main line up of handtraps and traps + 1 zeus (rest proxied). All for I think 160-220 USD.
Anyway, out of thin air, random drident ban. Supposedly to nerf tri-brigade but I it didnt really at all. Very much a prime example of banning a card just cuz they couldnt make money off zoos anymore due to reprints + old prints, I believe the deck had done well in a tournament just a month before banlist. Deck was just rogue, nothing more nothing less.
Started playing older formats shortly after.
Konami sucks..,its the GreeD....if Konami doesnt fix the shortprints and doesnt give a fu.. about the quality of cards any more...I"ll stop playing it...as simple as that...somebody needs to stand the tirany of Konami....WE NEED tHE ONE....and if this one falls...EVERYONE will stand UP FOR HIM....
What an incredibly informative video. Thanks for sharing this experience and knowledge, and I hope Konami wakes the eff up.
Excellent video.
Well at least we know who isn't on Konami's Christmas card list...😅. Fantastic video exposing the truth, very eye opening. Don't expect Konami sponsorship anytime soon though!
This video is even more relevant today. Honestly I’m tired of the cycle and moved on.
Honestly, though Konami's practices are very bad, the TCG only have themselves to blame. After the lawsuits with Upperdeck and 4K Media, YGO has been very reluctant to give TCG consumers/viewers the best they have to offer outside the Asian market. Almost like they are saying ”Since you Americans want to be greedy, you're gonna have to pay more for our stuff.”
So, yes, racism plays a role in this...
TCG regions has lesser direct competition for Yugioh compared to OCG regions. Saying it's racism is outright petty.