Holy See banning the Latin Mass?: Last week in the Church with John Allen Jr.

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

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  • @theiritiphanwar3271
    @theiritiphanwar3271 Месяц назад +2

    I am a Christian, Presbyterian , a home maker,single mom,see God's Blessings everyday.

  • @spoffspoffington
    @spoffspoffington Месяц назад +6

    You're doing good work for the church, if I may say so.🙋✝️

  • @susand3668
    @susand3668 Месяц назад +9

    Thank you for your reporting on the near-misses of assassins' attempts against Popes Paul VI and John Paul II. I had forgotten all but one of them. And thank you for the reminder of the surge of hope when Pope Francis was first elected. The Church was under attack then as now, and your last item -- the rumor-mongering against Pope Francis and the stoking of anger and fear among the faithful, all for the sake of money -- is simply more of the same eternal hatred of our Enemy.
    Thank you for calling for an end to these attacks.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber Месяц назад +1

      How Trump can win the Catholic vote- fly to Fatima on August 13 and do the same.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад

      @@susand3668 We had just lost brilliant, Orthodox Pope Benedict. We were grief stricken. We gave "humble" Francis a chance until he gave sodomite priests a pass, "Who am I to judge"?

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад +3

      @@TedSeeber Considering his abortion-happy opponent, he should have all Catholics behind him.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber Месяц назад

      @@carolynkimberly4021 Sadly, nearly 50% of our fellow Catholics are still Democrats.
      They don't see the genocide we see.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk Месяц назад

      @@carolynkimberly4021 Some of us aren't one issue voters.

  • @user-gg1kk9jp9u
    @user-gg1kk9jp9u Месяц назад +4

    Francis is the Pope of bad surprises!

  • @KMF3
    @KMF3 Месяц назад +1

    Let's really hope that it's a lot of hot air in terms of the ban of the Latin Mass. It certainly is true that the Latin Mass has been severely severely restricted to the point that very few remain.

  • @TheGariego
    @TheGariego Месяц назад +8

    He didn't "voluntarily " walk away. He was forced out by his party.

    • @tomgjokaj
      @tomgjokaj Месяц назад +1

      Yes, someone else resigned for Biden

  • @johncaron4888
    @johncaron4888 Месяц назад +12

    The Holy See banning the Latin Mass would be a really stupid move!

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 Месяц назад

      Yes. But they are genuinely stupid. Driven by Satan. 👹👹👹

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 Месяц назад

      You are right! And Pope Francis is not stupid. He advised the bishops to limit the Latin Masses to congregations that were not promoting schism. This makes a lot of sense.
      Many of those who promote schism are the same ones who are now rumor-mongering about the pope halting *all* Latin Masses. They ignore Pope Francis's very recent voicing of approval for ICKSP (although the rumor-mongerers had used this meeting to promote the idea that Pope Francis was preparing to end the Institute -- he was, in fact, congratulating the prior general on the 45th anniversary of his ordination.)

  • @danielnyambi-ts8ex
    @danielnyambi-ts8ex Месяц назад +2

    A very good show. Thanks

  • @simonpetergough9792
    @simonpetergough9792 Месяц назад +1

    Good stuff John !

  • @bobm2331
    @bobm2331 Месяц назад +5

    John since you don't have 100's of comments to a video, it would be nice if you replied to a few comments now and then. Most make good counter points.

  • @Tewhill357
    @Tewhill357 Месяц назад +9

    "Relative unknown?" Francis had recieved significant support in the conclave that elected Benedict. He was not plucked from obscurity. To say that is simply mythmaking.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад

      Only Argentina, the Jesuits, and the Gay Mafia were familiar with that disgrace.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 Месяц назад

      You are totally in wrong. Get some books on that staged election. Ever heard of St. Gallen? McCarrick is also involved.🤠

    • @DefendourMother
      @DefendourMother Месяц назад

      Yes, because a significant number of cardinals are strong supporters of Marxism and intent on destroying the Catholic faith. It was well known in the Vatican that Francis was a good candidate to lead this Movement. It's a shame that so many of the men who opposed Bugnini during the V2 conclave are now deceased. Sadly, there are but a handful of men who are still alive who knew about the Marxist Movement that had established itself at the highest level of the Church.

  • @jimduffy7199
    @jimduffy7199 Месяц назад +5

    Paul VI was wounded in the chest, not his neck, in the assassination attempt in Manila. The Pope said he felt "two compressions" in his chest. His life is believed to have been saved by the fact that his waistcoat under his vestments, which he wore to help with severe arthritis, was so heavy starched that the blade did not enter with full force.
    Pope Paul did not realise he had been stabbed and what the compressions were until one of his aides noticed blood seeping through his cassock. The wound came exceptionally close to a critical artery but may have been deflected by the starched waistcoat.

    • @spoffspoffington
      @spoffspoffington Месяц назад

      @@jimduffy7199 slightly worrying for HH anyway? And no press hysteria at the time, if my childhood memory serves me right.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 Месяц назад

      @@spoffspoffington as I recall, you are right, the media did not make a big thing of it. I do not recall any talk of it being a miracle that he was saved!

  • @rockandrexable
    @rockandrexable Месяц назад +5

    Well said!

  • @sandragoss48
    @sandragoss48 Месяц назад +16

    The Pope just gave permission for five parishes in the State of Virginia, USA to celebrate the Latin Mass. Would he suppress the Latin Mass in some areas while giving permission in Virginia?

    • @stevedoetsch
      @stevedoetsch Месяц назад +5

      Yes. It's a basic tactic to oppose on one side while supporting on the other.

    • @leylinegoddess
      @leylinegoddess Месяц назад +2

      the choices are chosen out of those parishes who are not in schismatic mode. they still recognize the papacy of francis so not schismatic thus due for consideration for alternative form of mass.

    • @user-je5ib5nv8u
      @user-je5ib5nv8u Месяц назад

      Diocese of Arlington cancelled many Latin masses during tradiciones costodus and also it’s a very populated place so it makes sense.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 Месяц назад +1

      Permission? Hahaha. Is he in the charge? Of what? Let's go Brandon 🤠

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 Месяц назад

      ​@@leylinegoddessForget the Pacapapa 😂

  • @JamesWatrous-m9m
    @JamesWatrous-m9m 20 дней назад

    Good news show as usual, Mr. Allen. Incidentally, Julian Fellows, the creator of DOWTOWN ABBY is also an actor. He played Nero in the 1981 tv move PETER AND PAUL, which starred Anthony Hopkins as St. Paul and Robert Foxworth as St. Peter.

  • @Michael-OConnor1960
    @Michael-OConnor1960 Месяц назад +1

    The TLM will always have a part in the Church

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn 14 дней назад

    Yes, but Adele brought 60,000 people together in an open air Theater made especially for her in Munich for 10 nights this summer for a total of 600,000 participants to listen to her sing. If that is not engagement with the goddess, I don’t know what is!

  • @TheonewhomJesusloves895
    @TheonewhomJesusloves895 Месяц назад +4

    Dont use AI!!

  • @nancyraboin647
    @nancyraboin647 Месяц назад +2

    I guess what gets me concern that there was 3 year prep for the Eucharistic Congress, but so little energy seem to have been forth on synod conversations. We do have a possibilities to be a bridge.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber Месяц назад

      They do not want input into the synod. It is only a smoke screen to incorporate wokeism into the Churcg.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 Месяц назад

      It fizzled out. Let's go Brandon 🤠

  • @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q
    @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Месяц назад +9

    As an Eastern Rite Catholic, I don't get the obsession with the Latin Mass. My people have always heard the Mass in the vernacular. As early as the 1940s, our bishops worked on developing a Divine Liturgy in English. The Catholic high school that I attended hasn't offered Latin in more than 50 years.
    In the 2005 conclave, the cardinal-archbishop of Buenos Aires was first runner-up in the voting.

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek Месяц назад

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Had the 1969 Mass been implemented properly, there wouldn’t be the mass movement toward the TLM.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад +2

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q If you were a Western rite Catholic you would easily understand. The Mass in Latin with beautiful rubrics and music united Catholics around the world. Now we have no unity from parish to parish.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Bergoglio was known in his own country for being a Peronist and a vindictive man.

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek Месяц назад +2

      @@dalesmith2987 Some in Rome really don’t like the older traditions of the Church and those who adhere to them, but the trads have gone so rebellious lately, Rome equates trads with schismatics.

    • @susanwright4414
      @susanwright4414 Месяц назад +1

      Yes. Thanks for questioning Latin Mass division. This is how evil thrives; disrespect authority. Spread rumors.
      So sad.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 Месяц назад +7

    Great show!
    Three comments:
    1) Although your analogy of President Biden and Pope Benedict is valid, a better analogy is the year 1968 in America where:
    a) The sitting president Lyndon Johnson, from the Democrat Party, infamously announced that: "I will not seek nor will I accept my party's nomination for president of the United States."
    b) There were multiple assassination attempts on political figures, two resulting in the assassination of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy within a month of each other.
    c) There was a third-party candidate that in 1968 received 13.5% of the vote and in 2024 there is a third-party candidate who is polling close to that number. He is RFK, Jr. the son of Robert F. Kennedy who was assassinated in 1968.
    d) The Democratic convention was in Chicago in 1968 as it is this year.
    e)The public was promised an open convention, but back-door deals nominated Johnson's Vice President Hebert Humphrey and this year the public was promised an open election, but a back-door deal will nominate President Biden's Vice President Kamala Harris.
    f) There were massive riots at the Chicago Democratic convention led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat Party and that is likely to happen again led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat party.
    2) The name is pronounced KA-ma-la Harris, not Ka-MA-la Harris.
    3) The Beatles concert at Shea Stadium was in 1965 (August 14th).

    • @briankeane9674
      @briankeane9674 Месяц назад

      John there is a southern hemisphere I don’t wish to know of your heat probs
      Please more Vatican news
      The lord does not care about USA politics Brian

    • @markgraham2312
      @markgraham2312 Месяц назад

      @@briankeane9674 I'm so glad to find out you speak for the lord.

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 Месяц назад

      And Lyndon Johnson's Vice President was Hubert Humphrey, not Hebert Humphrey. And why do you call President Johnson's announcement "infamous". That makes no sense.

    • @markgraham2312
      @markgraham2312 Месяц назад

      @@erikriza7165 EXCUSE ME! I made a typing mistake.
      I was living then.
      I heard it!
      It was infamous and that is why I called it infamous.
      Like a day that will live in infamy.
      Johnson was a VERY unpopular president, like President Biden.
      Infamy )adj. 1. Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious.
      Is it clear now?

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 Месяц назад

      @@markgraham2312 I was living then too. I was watching TV when he said that. I know what the word infamous means. If you think Johnson was infamous, that is a different matter altogether. The announcement that he would not seek or accept the nomination of his Party, in itself, is neither infamous nor famous. So, no. Not clear at all.

  • @John-nt6qj
    @John-nt6qj Месяц назад +1

    Julian Fellowes is a Catholic (an Old Boy of Ampleforth College in Yorkshire).

  • @Juan-gl7cs
    @Juan-gl7cs Месяц назад +7

    What we learn is that is good for people to retire; is time for Francis to retired.

    • @leylinegoddess
      @leylinegoddess Месяц назад

      jpII did not retire and he was seriously debilitated by parkinson's disease.

  • @spoffspoffington
    @spoffspoffington Месяц назад

    well you were right about gorgeous george and the baltic republics. Just hope HH isn't hoping for a war

  • @edwardbell9795
    @edwardbell9795 Месяц назад

    So, Diane Montagna is just making it all up, is she?

  • @Poikye
    @Poikye Месяц назад

    Unfortunately, American Catholics, by referring to the "Latin Mass" confuse the issue. In UK we usually refer to the Tridentine rite of the Mass. This is clear. The Latin Mass can mean thd Novus Ordo in Latin. Comments?

    • @Jimboken1
      @Jimboken1 Месяц назад

      My guesstimate is that the vast majority of catholics who prefer the TLM love the NO also if performed reverently whatever the language used.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Месяц назад

      No to say the Tridentine Mass is to confuse it's origins. It did not start during Trent. This is the mass of the ages that began in the very first centuries of the church. It might be better to call it the mass of the ages. But most people call it the traditional Latin Mass.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 Месяц назад +1

      I do think that there is some benefit to warning people of the possibility of this happening even though you may not know for sure. Look at the good that it is already produced in terms of many petitions going to Rome to beg the Holy see to not do this horrible evil thing.

  • @tadstilwell6127
    @tadstilwell6127 Месяц назад

    John, are you feeling okay?

  • @kingposeidon9362
    @kingposeidon9362 Месяц назад

    22:32 Wasn't the 2019 poll by Pew?

  • @chrisekstrom4614
    @chrisekstrom4614 Месяц назад +2

    #SSPX ✝️✝️✝️

  • @jamescover7605
    @jamescover7605 Месяц назад +1

    There is a report at rorate that the document exists but The Pope has refused to sign it!

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад +7

    Right. Bergoglio is such a humble merciful man.

  • @manifold1476
    @manifold1476 6 дней назад

    2:12 "EuCORistic"????? Are you *trying* to say, EuCHARistic??? smh

  • @arminthaller7284
    @arminthaller7284 Месяц назад +5

    Thanks for your comment on the suposed ban on the tridentine rite. Those complaints sow discord and steal attention from more important subjects. Who cares about the rite if they can receieve the Lord in communion? Or isn't it about the Lord but about some people's feelings?

    • @colmoneill191
      @colmoneill191 Месяц назад

      You may not understand or care but many do.

  • @angelamalek
    @angelamalek Месяц назад +2

    Mainline Protestants are solidly Republican in my experience.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад

      We wouldn't know. But our bishops vote Democrat regardless of the stupid or evil policies they represent. Their complicity in the invasion of our border is sinful.

    • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
      @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh Месяц назад

      Republicans are just 20 years behind the Democrats. They pretend. They do the fake opposition.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 Месяц назад +2

      @@carolynkimberly4021 how do you KNOW how the bishops vote? You don't know. You are just rumor-mongering.
      Please see a priest ASAP to confess to lying against fellow Christians.

    • @Jimboken1
      @Jimboken1 Месяц назад

      And 'mainline' catholics are pro-choice Dem in my experience.
      Which party roasted the FBI for investigating TLM Catholics?

    • @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q
      @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Месяц назад

      The former pastor at the former parish just stopped short of endorsing the Republican candidates for president. I wanted to walk out, but my very Democratic father shot me a look of "don't you dare walk out."

  • @sophiachavez3377
    @sophiachavez3377 Месяц назад +1

    Lose the grey beard. It looks horrible.

  • @galaxyn3214
    @galaxyn3214 Месяц назад +2

    15:41 Don't deny it Mr. Allen, we all know that you were one of the conspirators!

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад +2

    Francis says nothing. He just acts.

  • @marshalldarcy7423
    @marshalldarcy7423 Месяц назад +1

    ""all time high"" just is not so for the US had a Civil War and has had major divisions political many times.

  • @TedSeeber
    @TedSeeber Месяц назад

    What, again?

  • @Michael-OConnor1960
    @Michael-OConnor1960 Месяц назад

    John your slurring your words did you have a few vino’s when filming again ?

  • @FrancesRobinson-yn2ks
    @FrancesRobinson-yn2ks Месяц назад +2

    Yeah, not everyone is "thanking God".

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад

      The Left is truly evil.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 Месяц назад +1

      We should thank God even for our personal crosses and sufferings. We should be offering up everything that happens, because it is all in the Grace of God's mercy, and everything -- even the death of our dear Savior on the Cross -- *everything* is for the purpose of getting us all into Heaven to rejoice with God forever and ever!

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk Месяц назад

      @@susand3668 I wish I were that holy!

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 Месяц назад

      @@LS-ei7xk me too!!
      But that is what Jesus wants us to be, and He will do everything in His Almighty Power to make happen, if we really want this with all our hearts!

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 Месяц назад +7

    Thank God for President Trump

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk Месяц назад

      Thank God we have a two party system.