Holy See banning the Latin Mass?: Last week in the Church with John Allen Jr.

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @sandragoss48
    @sandragoss48 5 месяцев назад +16

    The Pope just gave permission for five parishes in the State of Virginia, USA to celebrate the Latin Mass. Would he suppress the Latin Mass in some areas while giving permission in Virginia?

    • @stevedoetsch
      @stevedoetsch 5 месяцев назад +5

      Yes. It's a basic tactic to oppose on one side while supporting on the other.

    • @leylinegoddess
      @leylinegoddess 5 месяцев назад +2

      the choices are chosen out of those parishes who are not in schismatic mode. they still recognize the papacy of francis so not schismatic thus due for consideration for alternative form of mass.

    • @JaimeAlvarez-r9u
      @JaimeAlvarez-r9u 5 месяцев назад

      Diocese of Arlington cancelled many Latin masses during tradiciones costodus and also it’s a very populated place so it makes sense.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 5 месяцев назад +1

      Permission? Hahaha. Is he in the charge? Of what? Let's go Brandon 🤠

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@leylinegoddessForget the Pacapapa 😂

  • @spoffspoffington
    @spoffspoffington 5 месяцев назад +6

    You're doing good work for the church, if I may say so.🙋✝️

  • @johncaron4888
    @johncaron4888 5 месяцев назад +12

    The Holy See banning the Latin Mass would be a really stupid move!

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 5 месяцев назад

      Yes. But they are genuinely stupid. Driven by Satan. 👹👹👹

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 5 месяцев назад

      You are right! And Pope Francis is not stupid. He advised the bishops to limit the Latin Masses to congregations that were not promoting schism. This makes a lot of sense.
      Many of those who promote schism are the same ones who are now rumor-mongering about the pope halting *all* Latin Masses. They ignore Pope Francis's very recent voicing of approval for ICKSP (although the rumor-mongerers had used this meeting to promote the idea that Pope Francis was preparing to end the Institute -- he was, in fact, congratulating the prior general on the 45th anniversary of his ordination.)

  • @danielnyambi-ts8ex
    @danielnyambi-ts8ex 5 месяцев назад +2

    A very good show. Thanks

  • @Tewhill357
    @Tewhill357 5 месяцев назад +9

    "Relative unknown?" Francis had recieved significant support in the conclave that elected Benedict. He was not plucked from obscurity. To say that is simply mythmaking.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад

      Only Argentina, the Jesuits, and the Gay Mafia were familiar with that disgrace.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 5 месяцев назад

      You are totally in wrong. Get some books on that staged election. Ever heard of St. Gallen? McCarrick is also involved.🤠

    • @DefendourMother
      @DefendourMother 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, because a significant number of cardinals are strong supporters of Marxism and intent on destroying the Catholic faith. It was well known in the Vatican that Francis was a good candidate to lead this Movement. It's a shame that so many of the men who opposed Bugnini during the V2 conclave are now deceased. Sadly, there are but a handful of men who are still alive who knew about the Marxist Movement that had established itself at the highest level of the Church.

  • @simonpetergough9792
    @simonpetergough9792 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good stuff John !

  • @theiritiphanwar3271
    @theiritiphanwar3271 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am a Christian, Presbyterian , a home maker,single mom,see God's Blessings everyday.

    • @sylvia54lobo76
      @sylvia54lobo76 3 месяца назад

      APOSTATE church banning...
      Wake up zombie catlicks worldover. BerGOGlio is taking for ride on SCARLET BEAST for a massacre. Sad. Sad. Wake up pied Piper catlicks ere it's too late.

  • @KMF3
    @KMF3 5 месяцев назад +1

    Let's really hope that it's a lot of hot air in terms of the ban of the Latin Mass. It certainly is true that the Latin Mass has been severely severely restricted to the point that very few remain.

  • @bobm2331
    @bobm2331 5 месяцев назад +5

    John since you don't have 100's of comments to a video, it would be nice if you replied to a few comments now and then. Most make good counter points.

  • @jimduffy7199
    @jimduffy7199 5 месяцев назад +4

    Paul VI was wounded in the chest, not his neck, in the assassination attempt in Manila. The Pope said he felt "two compressions" in his chest. His life is believed to have been saved by the fact that his waistcoat under his vestments, which he wore to help with severe arthritis, was so heavy starched that the blade did not enter with full force.
    Pope Paul did not realise he had been stabbed and what the compressions were until one of his aides noticed blood seeping through his cassock. The wound came exceptionally close to a critical artery but may have been deflected by the starched waistcoat.

    • @spoffspoffington
      @spoffspoffington 5 месяцев назад

      @@jimduffy7199 slightly worrying for HH anyway? And no press hysteria at the time, if my childhood memory serves me right.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 5 месяцев назад

      @@spoffspoffington as I recall, you are right, the media did not make a big thing of it. I do not recall any talk of it being a miracle that he was saved!

  • @susand3668
    @susand3668 5 месяцев назад +9

    Thank you for your reporting on the near-misses of assassins' attempts against Popes Paul VI and John Paul II. I had forgotten all but one of them. And thank you for the reminder of the surge of hope when Pope Francis was first elected. The Church was under attack then as now, and your last item -- the rumor-mongering against Pope Francis and the stoking of anger and fear among the faithful, all for the sake of money -- is simply more of the same eternal hatred of our Enemy.
    Thank you for calling for an end to these attacks.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber 5 месяцев назад +1

      How Trump can win the Catholic vote- fly to Fatima on August 13 and do the same.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад

      @@susand3668 We had just lost brilliant, Orthodox Pope Benedict. We were grief stricken. We gave "humble" Francis a chance until he gave sodomite priests a pass, "Who am I to judge"?

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TedSeeber Considering his abortion-happy opponent, he should have all Catholics behind him.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber 5 месяцев назад

      @@carolynkimberly4021 Sadly, nearly 50% of our fellow Catholics are still Democrats.
      They don't see the genocide we see.

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 5 месяцев назад

      @@carolynkimberly4021 Some of us aren't one issue voters.

  • @TheGariego
    @TheGariego 5 месяцев назад +8

    He didn't "voluntarily " walk away. He was forced out by his party.

    • @tomgjokaj
      @tomgjokaj 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, someone else resigned for Biden

  • @rockandrexable
    @rockandrexable 5 месяцев назад +5

    Well said!

  • @JamesWatrous-m9m
    @JamesWatrous-m9m 4 месяца назад

    Good news show as usual, Mr. Allen. Incidentally, Julian Fellows, the creator of DOWTOWN ABBY is also an actor. He played Nero in the 1981 tv move PETER AND PAUL, which starred Anthony Hopkins as St. Paul and Robert Foxworth as St. Peter.

  • @nancyraboin647
    @nancyraboin647 5 месяцев назад +2

    I guess what gets me concern that there was 3 year prep for the Eucharistic Congress, but so little energy seem to have been forth on synod conversations. We do have a possibilities to be a bridge.

    • @TedSeeber
      @TedSeeber 5 месяцев назад

      They do not want input into the synod. It is only a smoke screen to incorporate wokeism into the Churcg.

    • @paulfaigl8329
      @paulfaigl8329 5 месяцев назад

      It fizzled out. Let's go Brandon 🤠

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 5 месяцев назад +7

    Great show!
    Three comments:
    1) Although your analogy of President Biden and Pope Benedict is valid, a better analogy is the year 1968 in America where:
    a) The sitting president Lyndon Johnson, from the Democrat Party, infamously announced that: "I will not seek nor will I accept my party's nomination for president of the United States."
    b) There were multiple assassination attempts on political figures, two resulting in the assassination of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy within a month of each other.
    c) There was a third-party candidate that in 1968 received 13.5% of the vote and in 2024 there is a third-party candidate who is polling close to that number. He is RFK, Jr. the son of Robert F. Kennedy who was assassinated in 1968.
    d) The Democratic convention was in Chicago in 1968 as it is this year.
    e)The public was promised an open convention, but back-door deals nominated Johnson's Vice President Hebert Humphrey and this year the public was promised an open election, but a back-door deal will nominate President Biden's Vice President Kamala Harris.
    f) There were massive riots at the Chicago Democratic convention led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat Party and that is likely to happen again led by left-wing radicals of the Democrat party.
    2) The name is pronounced KA-ma-la Harris, not Ka-MA-la Harris.
    3) The Beatles concert at Shea Stadium was in 1965 (August 14th).

    • @briankeane9674
      @briankeane9674 5 месяцев назад

      John there is a southern hemisphere I don’t wish to know of your heat probs
      Please more Vatican news
      The lord does not care about USA politics Brian

    • @markgraham2312
      @markgraham2312 5 месяцев назад

      @@briankeane9674 I'm so glad to find out you speak for the lord.

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 5 месяцев назад

      And Lyndon Johnson's Vice President was Hubert Humphrey, not Hebert Humphrey. And why do you call President Johnson's announcement "infamous". That makes no sense.

    • @markgraham2312
      @markgraham2312 5 месяцев назад

      @@erikriza7165 EXCUSE ME! I made a typing mistake.
      I was living then.
      I heard it!
      It was infamous and that is why I called it infamous.
      Like a day that will live in infamy.
      Johnson was a VERY unpopular president, like President Biden.
      Infamy )adj. 1. Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious.
      Is it clear now?

    • @erikriza7165
      @erikriza7165 5 месяцев назад

      @@markgraham2312 I was living then too. I was watching TV when he said that. I know what the word infamous means. If you think Johnson was infamous, that is a different matter altogether. The announcement that he would not seek or accept the nomination of his Party, in itself, is neither infamous nor famous. So, no. Not clear at all.

  • @haroldgaubert
    @haroldgaubert 5 месяцев назад +4

    Francis is the Pope of bad surprises!

  • @Michael-OConnor1960
    @Michael-OConnor1960 5 месяцев назад +1

    The TLM will always have a part in the Church

  • @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q
    @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q 5 месяцев назад +9

    As an Eastern Rite Catholic, I don't get the obsession with the Latin Mass. My people have always heard the Mass in the vernacular. As early as the 1940s, our bishops worked on developing a Divine Liturgy in English. The Catholic high school that I attended hasn't offered Latin in more than 50 years.
    In the 2005 conclave, the cardinal-archbishop of Buenos Aires was first runner-up in the voting.

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek 5 месяцев назад

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Had the 1969 Mass been implemented properly, there wouldn’t be the mass movement toward the TLM.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q If you were a Western rite Catholic you would easily understand. The Mass in Latin with beautiful rubrics and music united Catholics around the world. Now we have no unity from parish to parish.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад

      @@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Bergoglio was known in his own country for being a Peronist and a vindictive man.

    • @angelamalek
      @angelamalek 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@dalesmith2987 Some in Rome really don’t like the older traditions of the Church and those who adhere to them, but the trads have gone so rebellious lately, Rome equates trads with schismatics.

    • @susanwright4414
      @susanwright4414 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes. Thanks for questioning Latin Mass division. This is how evil thrives; disrespect authority. Spread rumors.
      So sad.

  • @John-nt6qj
    @John-nt6qj 5 месяцев назад +1

    Julian Fellowes is a Catholic (an Old Boy of Ampleforth College in Yorkshire).

  • @markcooper3915
    @markcooper3915 9 дней назад

    Dear Allen, can you please suggest to me an internet link where I can read all prayers of the Mass daily in Latin? I would like to have the Novus Ordo, not the Extraordinary one. Thank you. Keep up your good work.

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn 4 месяца назад

    Yes, but Adele brought 60,000 people together in an open air Theater made especially for her in Munich for 10 nights this summer for a total of 600,000 participants to listen to her sing. If that is not engagement with the goddess, I don’t know what is!

  • @kingposeidon9362
    @kingposeidon9362 5 месяцев назад

    22:32 Wasn't the 2019 poll by Pew?

  • @Poikye
    @Poikye 5 месяцев назад

    Unfortunately, American Catholics, by referring to the "Latin Mass" confuse the issue. In UK we usually refer to the Tridentine rite of the Mass. This is clear. The Latin Mass can mean thd Novus Ordo in Latin. Comments?

    • @Jimboken1
      @Jimboken1 5 месяцев назад

      My guesstimate is that the vast majority of catholics who prefer the TLM love the NO also if performed reverently whatever the language used.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 5 месяцев назад

      No to say the Tridentine Mass is to confuse it's origins. It did not start during Trent. This is the mass of the ages that began in the very first centuries of the church. It might be better to call it the mass of the ages. But most people call it the traditional Latin Mass.

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 5 месяцев назад +1

      I do think that there is some benefit to warning people of the possibility of this happening even though you may not know for sure. Look at the good that it is already produced in terms of many petitions going to Rome to beg the Holy see to not do this horrible evil thing.

  • @TheonewhomJesusloves895
    @TheonewhomJesusloves895 5 месяцев назад +4

    Dont use AI!!

  • @jamescover7605
    @jamescover7605 5 месяцев назад +1

    There is a report at rorate that the document exists but The Pope has refused to sign it!

  • @edwardbell9795
    @edwardbell9795 5 месяцев назад

    So, Diane Montagna is just making it all up, is she?

  • @tadstilwell6127
    @tadstilwell6127 5 месяцев назад

    John, are you feeling okay?

  • @Juan-gl7cs
    @Juan-gl7cs 5 месяцев назад +7

    What we learn is that is good for people to retire; is time for Francis to retired.

    • @leylinegoddess
      @leylinegoddess 5 месяцев назад

      jpII did not retire and he was seriously debilitated by parkinson's disease.

  • @spoffspoffington
    @spoffspoffington 5 месяцев назад

    well you were right about gorgeous george and the baltic republics. Just hope HH isn't hoping for a war

  • @galaxyn3214
    @galaxyn3214 5 месяцев назад +2

    15:41 Don't deny it Mr. Allen, we all know that you were one of the conspirators!

  • @EstherAcosta-t6u
    @EstherAcosta-t6u 2 месяца назад

    You okay John ? ❤E

  • @arminthaller7284
    @arminthaller7284 5 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks for your comment on the suposed ban on the tridentine rite. Those complaints sow discord and steal attention from more important subjects. Who cares about the rite if they can receieve the Lord in communion? Or isn't it about the Lord but about some people's feelings?

    • @colmoneill191
      @colmoneill191 5 месяцев назад

      You may not understand or care but many do.

  • @marshalldarcy7423
    @marshalldarcy7423 5 месяцев назад +1

    ""all time high"" just is not so for the US had a Civil War and has had major divisions political many times.

  • @chrisekstrom4614
    @chrisekstrom4614 5 месяцев назад +2

    #SSPX ✝️✝️✝️

  • @Michael-OConnor1960
    @Michael-OConnor1960 5 месяцев назад

    John your slurring your words did you have a few vino’s when filming again ?

  • @angelamalek
    @angelamalek 5 месяцев назад +2

    Mainline Protestants are solidly Republican in my experience.

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад

      We wouldn't know. But our bishops vote Democrat regardless of the stupid or evil policies they represent. Their complicity in the invasion of our border is sinful.

    • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
      @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 5 месяцев назад

      Republicans are just 20 years behind the Democrats. They pretend. They do the fake opposition.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@carolynkimberly4021 how do you KNOW how the bishops vote? You don't know. You are just rumor-mongering.
      Please see a priest ASAP to confess to lying against fellow Christians.

    • @Jimboken1
      @Jimboken1 5 месяцев назад

      And 'mainline' catholics are pro-choice Dem in my experience.
      Which party roasted the FBI for investigating TLM Catholics?

    • @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q
      @ConanTheLibrarian-n5q 5 месяцев назад

      The former pastor at the former parish just stopped short of endorsing the Republican candidates for president. I wanted to walk out, but my very Democratic father shot me a look of "don't you dare walk out."

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад +2

    Francis says nothing. He just acts.

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад +7

    Right. Bergoglio is such a humble merciful man.

  • @sophiachavez3377
    @sophiachavez3377 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lose the grey beard. It looks horrible.

  • @TedSeeber
    @TedSeeber 5 месяцев назад

    What, again?

  • @manifold1476
    @manifold1476 4 месяца назад

    2:12 "EuCORistic"????? Are you *trying* to say, EuCHARistic??? smh

  • @FrancesRobinson-yn2ks
    @FrancesRobinson-yn2ks 5 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah, not everyone is "thanking God".

    • @carolynkimberly4021
      @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад

      The Left is truly evil.

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 5 месяцев назад +1

      We should thank God even for our personal crosses and sufferings. We should be offering up everything that happens, because it is all in the Grace of God's mercy, and everything -- even the death of our dear Savior on the Cross -- *everything* is for the purpose of getting us all into Heaven to rejoice with God forever and ever!

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 5 месяцев назад

      @@susand3668 I wish I were that holy!

    • @susand3668
      @susand3668 5 месяцев назад

      @@LS-ei7xk me too!!
      But that is what Jesus wants us to be, and He will do everything in His Almighty Power to make happen, if we really want this with all our hearts!

  • @carolynkimberly4021
    @carolynkimberly4021 5 месяцев назад +7

    Thank God for President Trump

    • @LS-ei7xk
      @LS-ei7xk 5 месяцев назад

      Thank God we have a two party system.