Modifying my Jeep Renegade to fit NEW LARGER WHEELS
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- I purchased a set of 17" Jeep Cherokee wheels/tires to replace and upgrade my Renegade. Like most everything else with this car, there was modification needed. The wheels didn't fit! Nothing an angle grinder and some work can't fix. Let me know what you think!
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I would've put a spacer on before grinding the caliper
Thought about it, but to get a true hub centric spacer that is safe would involve 20mm+ with, increased wear on the wheel bearings, and the negative effects of changing the inflection point of the suspension (ie bumpsteer)
JeepRenegadeGuy true but they do make small 5mm spacers that would've been perfect for that.
JeepRenegadeGuy other that that I am digging the look 👍🏻
Derek Hartman I would have gone to parts store for a remaned one the grid on. but what do I know add my 2 cent needs new router s
Stay away from spacer a little grinding didn't hurt anything.
Stock wheels are actually 16x6.5 not 16x6. And I'm not sure if you understand how offset works, as you didn't really talk about it I the video, but you may have realized that this interference problem would happen before you even bought the wheels - if you knew the wheels were 17x7 +41, as that size will sit 7.3mm closer to the brakes/suspension than the stock 16x6.5 +40. A 25mm hubcentric spacer would have solved this and it would make the rims flush with the fender also. I understand you not wanting to put additional strain on the wheel bearings, but that additional strain wouldn't be much since the tires are now also wider and help to spread the load towards the center under the jeep by a little more than 7.3mm, let's call it 9mm as I'm estimating your tires contact patch to be about 2mm bulging out past the rim width... so really a 25mm spacer would be spacing out the inner track by 16mm on each side, which isn't much at all.
On my Renegade I have 235/60/17 tires on 17x8 +44 wheels with 15mm hubcentric spacers so I'm running 17x8 +29 effectively. But I am actually putting less strain on my bearings since even with the spacers my tires are sitting an extra 8mm under the Jeep than they were before, and instead of focusing on keeping the tires the same overall diameter, I focused on keeping them light and close to the same overall weight, so my wheels and tires (50 lbs) only weigh 8 lbs more per corner than the stock 16" wheels and 215/65 tires (42 lbs).
The factory wheels are indeed 16x6.5 (Show that in the video), and the offsets are actually -40mm. Negative, not positive. So going to the 17x7 with a -41mm offset that makes the wheel go 7mm closer to the strut and 5mm further to the fender. This was important because the wheel remains essentially centered on the hub.
If I were to do a 25mm spacer it would essentially make the new wheels a negative -16mm offset. Moving the wheel to be 18mm further from the strut and 30mm closer to the fender. That is a significant change as 39mm is an inch.
Just some additional info/corrections:
The Renegade's offset is positive (+40mm in the case of the 16x6.5's), meaning the mounting surface is 40mm outward from the center line of the wheel, and giving a backspace of about 129mm or 4.8 inches. That is indicated by no defined "lip" on the wheels.
The offset has no real indication on whether or not the spokes will clear the calipers. This is determined by the "pad height" which is the spacing from the mounting surface (rotor/hub) to the rear of the wheel face/spokes. A quick google search of the term "Wheel Pad Height" has some helpful images, although this info isn't really available or commonly discussed when dealing with basic wheel swaps. With that being said, there's no real way of knowing the 17x7 +41 would not clear the calipers without test fitting.
I'm currently running a set of 20x12's with a -75 offset and a medium pad height, and clear the Renegade's calipers with no issues. Yes, the wheel specs are a bit ridiculous, but just shows that offset doesn't effect caliper clearance per se.
Again, just some helpful info for ya
Thanks for the additional clarity.
First, we have the same trim level. I like what you're doing. Yes, I would have considered a spacer, but it makes me consider just painting the rim too. I love the all black look.
Use of wheel spacers in Massachusetts is illegal (Makes it hard to get the car inspected) as well as it presents added wear on your wheel bearings.
Just seeing this after I bought a 2015 Limited this summer. I want to go with a bigger tire and do about a two inch lift. Thanks for the video. I’m a newbie but I’m learning.
Learn away. Most wheels won't require this step.
Your video help me size my tires visually thank you.👍
They make heavy duty wheel spacers. If your caliper somehow got loose it could possibly still hit the wheel.
I could be crazy but if my caliper gets loose I am in trouble no matter the whee/spacer combo.
Fine and all that but when wheel bearing starts wearing it still may hit wheel I put the BFG KO2 225/65-17 on my renegade works out kinda nice white and black do go together great on that Jeep
The wheel bearings would be in real trouble if they were allowing 3mm of play at the hub. LIkely if it had that much movement the wheel would have fallen off already.
How did you make that size tire fit? I mean the BFG KO2...I have a Latitude and want to upgrade tires myself
@@frankgonzalez9185 I have the same ko2 on mine. It's a stock fitment. No mods needed
That's a caliper BRACKET not the caliper itself and by trial and error I would have used washers to determine the minimum space needed to not hit the rim and bought a good pair of hubcentric spacers.
Check your inside tire sidewall for any contact with wheels turned tight.
Didn't rub. Offsets and such were all correct. The hub to spoke transition is where the issue was. Only a few mm though.
I'm surprised this is possible, because on cars I'm familiar with, the caliper is attached so that it can float. Having this little clearance would still risk the caliber to contact the wheel, e.g. when braking in a turn, or after installing new pads.
This is a floating caliper. What was ground down was not on the caliper but rather the carrier that holds the caliper. The Caliper is thinner than the carrier in the first case, and when you press the brakes the caliper actually squeezes making it move further away from the wheel.
The stock tires SUCK!
They only lasted me 26,000.
I just bought a set of 4 Continental tires with a much better tread rating.
We'll see how it goes...
Thanks for posting!
👍😎👍😎👍
Its crazy isnt it? Not to mention the poor wear, I had (2) punctures with these tires!
Jamesthebikeguy - I had AT LEAST 1 puncture in each of the 4 tires!
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not sure if this was the best choice to make that wheel fit, but to each is own I guess.
I agree with the people saying they'd use spacers! Definitely weakened that piece, I wouldn't alter Brake calipers that the car engineers deemed necessary!!
To each their own, I didn't want the hassle.
I LIKE THE LOOK.
Thank you!
Spacers bro that all
Nah
Wheels are nice but Not worth taking metal off your BRAKE calipers!?!
Wheel adapters would have worked?!?
Why not just get the 17" Renegade wheels? They fit without any mods. Fits 215/60/17.
Ideally, I would have. Came across a good deal on some Jeep Cherokee wheels not expecting them to cause any fitment issues.
Mmm. Pretty pointless to be honest. You do know that what you are grinding floats in and out? When braking. And brake pads are thicker when new.
Not the case. The caliper bracket is fixed and non-floating. The caliper that mounts onto the clamp is floating, but there was not any concern of interference with that part.
Any rubbing on the wheel well or the fender when turning? Looking to get 215 65 r17 tires to put on my stock Latitude and hoping they will fit...any thoughts??
No rubbing at all. Aside from caliper clearance they worked perfect.
autozone 40$ 4 1/4in wheel spacers......
tim sears even if you spent the $150 on 4 1” bolt one
Why not use spacers?
I just bought a 2015 renegade.
Do they come stock as hub centric?
Yes
Why you do this for 17s? I've my tdi sport sitting on 20s with ease
Rolling on DUBs...
Do you think a 225/65/17 would have fit with no issues?
The tire was not the issue here. It's the Jeep Cherokee wheels I used. The spokes didn't clear the brakes. If it was a different set of wheels it would fit no prob right out of the gate
I am using 225/65/17
They fit
Man this is not big upgrade. Looking to go higher than 24’s
Sweet
Why go through all of this instead of getting the Trailhawk version which comes with 17" wheels? The price difference isn't much higher.
Slitterbox well there is almost a 9000usd price hike from my 4x4 renegade I paid 14.5 for my 2018 with 6spd and turbo 4x4
Great video! Subbed!
No no no!!! Please!!! Put a spacer on... Eibach 5mm and done! My God!
Lol, this worked and is free
All you had to do was find a set of the black 17" or 18" wheels that the Renes used. No grinding necessary. CRINGE!
My 2019 came from the factory with 225/55/18s on black wheels that have a similar design as those Cherokee wheels.
Cool.
mine too
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Just use a fucking spacer or different ET... Grinding your brakes is just plain stupid!
Lol are you offended...
Of course I am! It's 2019!!! 😂
Thats really risky.. youre brave sir
Some floating disc calipers don't even have the extra bar for rigidity, so grinding it down a bit probably isn't that risky. eastcoastgearsupply.com/images/F66447065.jpg
Worts fake
Huh?
Nice fiat panda lmao. Buy a real Jeep
Fiat 500x to be exact...