Why 4231 POST PATCH is the most META formation to give you wins (TACTICS) - FIFA 21 Ultimate Team

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @NealGuides
    @NealGuides  4 года назад +16

    Join the FIFA School Series, for advanced FIFA tutorials that go beyond what is shown on RUclips. Join with 200+ others in a mature FIFA community for those looking to really improve your game. See more information here: patreon.com/nealguides

    • @alehlete830
      @alehlete830 4 года назад +1

      How do u get the 4231 formation

    • @sean7271
      @sean7271 4 года назад

      Hi, im new here. Loved your video. Quick quedtion tho. Are any of the formations with 5 defenders worth a try?

    • @ryanbos4366
      @ryanbos4366 4 года назад

      Why do you have neymar in strikte and mbappe on cam

    • @tittentei7331
      @tittentei7331 4 года назад

      I will maybe come to your patron but just nor yet. I just wanna thank you again for this formation. I cant loose more. Haha😀👍

    • @TheeDevilWearsPrada
      @TheeDevilWearsPrada 3 года назад

      I need help. Idk what I'm doing wrong. I can't get out of my own half in online matches. Everyone presses so high and I end up losing the ball every time and concede like 8 goals every game. And I only get like 3 shots the entire match if im lucky. Everyone just sprints from defense to goal and scores.

  • @moyesmanhunt7586
    @moyesmanhunt7586 4 года назад +270

    Neal, I don't have the money to join you but I'll never skip the ads! Cheers and keep up the valuable contents!

    • @NealGuides
      @NealGuides  4 года назад +72

    • @1Maximal
      @1Maximal 4 года назад

      Same here

    • @nestvik
      @nestvik 4 года назад +7

      It's doesn't matter for him skip you or not.

    • @rotegino7536
      @rotegino7536 4 года назад +6

      @@nestvik finally someone that understands

    • @moyesmanhunt7586
      @moyesmanhunt7586 4 года назад

      @@rotegino7536 but I don't understand his English :/

  • @jujharsingh4366
    @jujharsingh4366 3 года назад +51

    this guy can make arsenal win the league

  • @DingleCerri
    @DingleCerri 4 года назад +18

    This formation is the most consistent in the game. Been using it a long time since you recommended last year.

  • @Thorz74
    @Thorz74 4 года назад +54

    Have to test this because until now I have not felt well playing the 4231 this year. Last FIFA it was a rock for me

    • @Rush2112001
      @Rush2112001 4 года назад +2

      Same here

    • @rowdyrango8006
      @rowdyrango8006 4 года назад +2

      I am having trouble with this formation aswell

    • @ReVoGennaMemberofReVoClan
      @ReVoGennaMemberofReVoClan 4 года назад +12

      I just switched from 4231 to 442(2) cause i couldn't attack well anymore

    • @TheOuterSpace17
      @TheOuterSpace17 4 года назад +11

      I tried 41212(2) and solved my doubt, this year having a 2 strikers formation gives you a huge advantage, every action you have your 2 ST vs. 2 DC plus your Cam getting into.. It is super OP for me

    • @igorfreitas4355
      @igorfreitas4355 4 года назад +10

      Until the patch I was nailing in the 4231, now I feel that the LAM and RAM are always too wide and it leaves my CAM with few passing options

  • @liamcrook4069
    @liamcrook4069 4 года назад +125

    So sweaty, honestly this is the best way to play Fifa nowadays, but can’t we all agree it’s so one dimensional. I’m sick of playing these boring long build up games. Hardly any variety.

    • @adambermingham737
      @adambermingham737 4 года назад +4

      Completely agree, have been playing 3-5-2 this wekeend and although probably conceded twice as many goals definitely had more fun!

    • @ColdDemonPlays
      @ColdDemonPlays 4 года назад +1

      @@adambermingham737 3-5-2 is pure fun. Stick to it and you'll get used to its faults as well. Been playing it for 2 weeks now and I barely concede now playing depth at 5 and balanced.

    • @sunnyp8612
      @sunnyp8612 4 года назад +5

      @@adambermingham737 i miss fifa 11 to 14. 352 was the best formation to use. Also using silver teams beating gold teams was amazing.

    • @samuelbiswas615
      @samuelbiswas615 4 года назад

      @@sunnyp8612 imagine a fifa 14 gameplay but with more skill moves, icons, more tactics , content, story mode, objectives, friendlies and all the stuff we have now(except shit gameplay)..it would be amazing.

    • @luisriley993
      @luisriley993 4 года назад +1

      @@samuelbiswas615 you're so right. The thing is FIFA can't allow cheap teams to beat expensive ones, so they encourage wasting your money in FIFA points to open packs so you can have decent players after spending hundreds of €.

  • @saadms_
    @saadms_ 4 года назад +53

    Wake up babe , new nealguides tactics video .

  • @bryanhilfiger2842
    @bryanhilfiger2842 4 года назад +6

    BRO, thank you!!!! I usually finished silver one, but with this I actually made it to gold 1, I felt like I was playing squad battles against people, god bless you

  • @justsmile5706
    @justsmile5706 4 года назад +84

    until ps6 comes out, let's assume 4231 is the most meta formation

  • @vadim_76rude55
    @vadim_76rude55 4 года назад +12

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! Many, many times! 5 wins in a row. First time in life. Really! No joke!

  • @BenBER527
    @BenBER527 4 года назад +47

    Is the gameplay for you guys extremely slow too? It feels weird but not delayed.

    • @bapekevv2994
      @bapekevv2994 4 года назад +5

      For the past two days for me it’s been so slow

    • @xcityboi
      @xcityboi 4 года назад +4

      Especially at the 70+ minutes 🙃

    • @fadliputera2324
      @fadliputera2324 4 года назад +3

      @@xcityboi strange but true. I feel that as well, defender become statue in 70th minutes upward even though it still has good amount of stamina

    • @stopitnowww768
      @stopitnowww768 4 года назад +2

      They slowed down the game that’s why

    • @d7man619
      @d7man619 4 года назад +2

      @@fadliputera2324 i played two days ago it was fine I didn't play ut yesterday but today i played fut champs and my players were slow and for some reason dumb and lazy i just sold the whole team lol

  • @Bfmess
    @Bfmess 3 года назад

    Where has this channel been all my life - it’s sublime content and the in depth tactical analysis I needed to push my game on 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @xXKevinXx617
    @xXKevinXx617 4 года назад +2

    dumb question but should I be using the 4-2-3-1 or the 4-2-3-1(2)? thanks

  • @Christobal7_7
    @Christobal7_7 4 года назад +1

    oooooh Neal coming in with them high quality live edits unreal man keep up the content most consistent tactical uploader for fifa ever much love man I’ll support by not skipping ads as well.

  • @jackwaterson4562
    @jackwaterson4562 4 года назад +1

    Probs the best tactics video I’ve seen yet love the depth you’ve went into with this pal can tell you know what you’re talking about

  • @jamesfreeth86
    @jamesfreeth86 4 года назад

    Dude, I dont know if this was a coincidence but I was 5 and 1 in champs before watching this... I normaly finish gold 3. I've never messed with instructions and stuff and always play a 442 or a 41212. Since watching this and using it I'm now 10-5 in champs. I hope this isn't a coincidence and the wins keep coming. Thank you

  • @magicmushroom9670
    @magicmushroom9670 3 года назад +1

    Hi, I have a question, if you could please answer. You changed the formation where attackers are all CAM. so playing LM, RM on CAM postion , doest affect their chemistry and stats ? Because, if you would have noticed, when in quad editing mode, you put lets say striker in CAM postion, in playsers attribute the attributes goes down by 8 to 10 . Everything.

  • @fabiospeciale1239
    @fabiospeciale1239 4 года назад

    I started the wl with high depth 442/4231 trying to close my opponent in his half , Went 7 and 4, terrible defending.
    Then i tried this 4231, omg dude went 10-0 , thank you dude!!! Actually very balanced!!! Keep it up with the content

  • @MegaGoon62
    @MegaGoon62 4 года назад

    I’ve only lost one game out of the seven games I’ve played with this formation. Before this I was on a loosing streak. Thankyou so much !! I’m subscribing and will be keeping a close eye on your future videos!

  • @ollie8253
    @ollie8253 3 года назад +5

    What about the attacking tactics?

  • @liamtuck3653
    @liamtuck3653 4 года назад +3

    Is this the formation and tactics you would use for the whole game, or are there separate videos for defensive, attacking and ultra attacking?

    • @gaucho1905
      @gaucho1905 4 года назад

      You use ultra defending all game

    • @xAntoIRL
      @xAntoIRL 4 года назад

      @@gaucho1905 thx

  • @tripleahafez6513
    @tripleahafez6513 4 года назад

    Really loving these in depth tutorials woth explanations, keep up the good work

  • @christianhayes8312
    @christianhayes8312 4 года назад +6

    Is 442(2) still meta?

  • @kurtisvowles9287
    @kurtisvowles9287 4 года назад +1

    tried 4231 with so many different teams this year and it has been horrible for me so will test this tomorrow 👍🏻

  • @AnfieldKilroy
    @AnfieldKilroy 4 года назад

    Any objections as to why not have your DM (Rabbiot) to Drop Between Defenders? I use B. Andre Rulebreaker (DBD) & IF Renato to attacking and it has given me good results. I'd like to hear your cases on why Stay Back instead of DBD. Thanks!

  • @soumyadipdey3384
    @soumyadipdey3384 3 года назад

    Will this tactic work same with the 4-2-3-1(2) formation, which have LM and RM ???

  • @astroravioli
    @astroravioli 4 года назад +6

    With these tactics, should you be playing on Ultra Defensive the entire time?

  • @dizzybeta
    @dizzybeta 4 года назад

    I really appreciate the content and the help you provide! I’ve been having a shitty time but cause of the patch and this video helped me get back on track! Thanks again!

  • @n8th1mon
    @n8th1mon 4 года назад +8

    Why not get in the box for crosses for cam? I sometimes find my self playing a through ball for the st/lam/ram and then finding a cut back to the cam for an easy goal in your previous tactics for this formation.

  • @AlWaYsLiGhTiN
    @AlWaYsLiGhTiN 4 года назад +1

    do you reccomend the same formation with adjusted tactics for ultra defensive and attacking ? or are there any specific formations and tactics you recommend for those styles?

  • @rocco316
    @rocco316 4 года назад +2

    I mostly don't comment on videos, but the results of these tactics ollalal👌 super

  • @tittentei7331
    @tittentei7331 4 года назад +1

    Thanks as allways. Have a nice weekend.

  • @pedroalvarado8968
    @pedroalvarado8968 4 года назад

    Played 2 games in d1 won 2 and they had neymar mbappe viera Ronaldo and I beat em 4-0 and played 1 game on fut champs and won like nothing thanks for the video 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @joekelly3470
    @joekelly3470 4 года назад

    Neal, I have Kante & Allan CDM in 4-2-3-1 (one of your first custom tactics videos) would you recommend I change Allan for Bruno or KDB for this tactic?

  • @israelthomas7549
    @israelthomas7549 4 года назад

    Do you use the 4231 or 4231(2)? For the original 4231, it's hard to find CAMs who are natural wingers and I dont think its possible to modify a winger's position to be a CAM. Would playing wingers out of position significantly impact their CHM level?

  • @leomessi7478
    @leomessi7478 4 года назад

    Hey man! Very useful video but i have a question. I am using Messi as CAM and his stamina is a bit problematic. Can I apply these tactics for messi? What should I do with him? Come back, balanced or stay forward?

    • @Alinho1907
      @Alinho1907 4 года назад +1

      My cam runs out stamina too so what I do is play him on balanced

  • @st5372
    @st5372 4 года назад +1

    When the ads come on I just look at the comments to support the channel, others should too

  • @charliealdred1815
    @charliealdred1815 4 года назад +1

    I normally love your tips and that, but since using these tactics I've gone from being elite 2 last week to losing 2 in my first 7 games of champs to gold level players.

    • @NealGuides
      @NealGuides  4 года назад

      yes my friend, I dont think thats the tactics lol, watch your gameplay back you are probably rushing or making mistakes, a formation wont make you lose if everoyne is on come back on defence

    • @charliealdred1815
      @charliealdred1815 4 года назад

      @@NealGuides ok thank you man, I didn't intend for that to come across as being salty blaming you or anything I was just wondering if maybe you thought I should go back to using your older tactics as I've been struggling to dominate in my opponents half or score many goals. Thanks for the tips though

  • @konstantinosaproikidis1750
    @konstantinosaproikidis1750 4 года назад

    Does it matter if it is 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-3-1 (2)? What is the diffence between these 2 formations?

  • @MrChandon
    @MrChandon 3 года назад

    great video! question though: why is it only for 'ultra defensive' tactic? can you also show for defensive, attacking and u.attacking?

  • @brenthanson7996
    @brenthanson7996 4 года назад

    Thanks NG for another great video will be trying this out for sure

  • @Wolfie_47
    @Wolfie_47 4 года назад +1

    Tried it recently, works well. Thanks)

  • @thetrader7062
    @thetrader7062 4 года назад +1

    Is pogba a good RCDM in this formation?

  • @danishjaved5896
    @danishjaved5896 4 года назад

    This looks good tbh.. i havnt really found 4231 good this year.. but worth giving a try again with these tactics.. nice video

  • @davidfrancis3298
    @davidfrancis3298 4 года назад +3

    How do I get a 4231 with cam lam and ram? My only options are with a LM and a RM or with cam right together

    • @jqmascarado3451
      @jqmascarado3451 4 года назад +1

      It's just 3 CAMs. People say RAM and LAM for practicity. Outside of the custom tactics the formation looks real narrow, like a triangle.

  • @jamiejones2386
    @jamiejones2386 3 года назад

    I had 4 wins out of 15 on champs. I tried this formation and alone with my desperate measured version of 451 counter and 541 see a game out but hit on break. Ibe won 5 in a row something I've not done in weeks. I'm a div 3 player normally get gold 2 and just struggled lately. Thia 4231 formation got me back it feels so flowing and attacking I have the pace of prime owen and who I believe is the best cam on the game in prime baggio I've had 4 rage quits and 3-0 inside 8 mins. Neal reply on twitter am interested in your fifa training bro

  • @BRAG3A
    @BRAG3A 3 года назад

    Haaland as striker? Is stay central good then or what should I do?

  • @lwazimngoma8147
    @lwazimngoma8147 3 года назад

    Your video really helped🙌

  • @talassem
    @talassem 4 года назад

    best guide ever 👍 keep going dude

  • @user-cz5ll3xg8q
    @user-cz5ll3xg8q 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for this breakdown i already used the formation but could not het the tactics right for the life of me

  • @apc-moments
    @apc-moments 4 года назад

    love from germany thanks for keepin us all update even with every new patch thank you a lot

  • @917orlando
    @917orlando 4 года назад

    Valverde would make good on the place of Rabiot? As the defensive midfielder?

  • @Olly4507
    @Olly4507 4 года назад

    This has made such an improvement thanks alot

  • @tyleruk7782
    @tyleruk7782 4 года назад +3

    i go into the game with a 433 with a CDM and change to the 4231 in game with my LW and RW in LAM and RAM in game is that good or bad?

    • @dannyxi4162
      @dannyxi4162 4 года назад

      yeah mostly everyone changes to 4231 in the beginning of the game

  • @kevinconan6633
    @kevinconan6633 4 года назад

    An amazing video, the best around !

  • @heyhey7690
    @heyhey7690 3 года назад

    This tactic and instruction is it to start the game ?❤

  • @iz.azizzz
    @iz.azizzz 4 года назад +2

    I packed inform messi last week. I'm so happy. Love your tactics btw

    • @NealGuides
      @NealGuides  4 года назад

      IF MESSI!?!! what a pull is he untradable or you can see him

    • @iz.azizzz
      @iz.azizzz 4 года назад +1

      @@NealGuides he's untradeable but I put him in my team and managed to get full chem . Btw your tactics have literally helped me won games bro so keep what doing what you do 💙

  • @yoman1019
    @yoman1019 4 года назад +2

    Love the video bro, also what camera setting are you on??

    • @JustTM_
      @JustTM_ 3 года назад

      Tele broadcast

  • @williammoelgaard7325
    @williammoelgaard7325 3 года назад

    I'm new to the game so i don't understand what tactics to use when im in balance, attacking, or ultra attacking? because in this video he only edits the ultra defensive game plan correct?

  • @girlyourfly4981
    @girlyourfly4981 4 года назад

    So do I put this in on balanced or switch to ultra defensive in game?

  • @timurbahar7774
    @timurbahar7774 4 года назад

    I have Kanté and Valverde on CDM on a Shadow. Does it make sense to put valverde offensive, since he is so good defensively ? I mean i could put both then just on stay back cover center no conservative, no cut passing lanes. Or is that a bad idea? My Centerbacks are Wan Bissaka on 10 chem and Walker on 7 so i can track back very well with my centerbacks on counter attacks and after pressing with my center backs.

    • @timurbahar7774
      @timurbahar7774 4 года назад

      BTW if I'm down by a goal after halftime I can put Atal from the bench as offensive CDM for Kanté.

  • @LosBlancos1990
    @LosBlancos1990 3 года назад

    Will hug the sidelines work with this? Using LM and RM instead of cams

  • @finlaybrown7735
    @finlaybrown7735 4 года назад +1

    Alright neal, whenever I need tactics I always use your videos I have the old 4-2-3-1 tactics are these ones better?

  • @sousedmax5955
    @sousedmax5955 4 года назад +1

    Great video thanks!

  • @lillaalfadji6926
    @lillaalfadji6926 4 года назад

    Can I use these tactics on a 433 and then change the formation to a 4231 in game or does the tactics disappear when I change the formation during the game?

  • @lucca5931
    @lucca5931 4 года назад

    That tactics and formations goes for only ultradefensive or offensive too?

  • @kaloshas1
    @kaloshas1 4 года назад

    Thanks a lot man, my defenders were all over the place and they were making unreasonable runs.

  • @heyhey7690
    @heyhey7690 3 года назад

    Can this formation out play ay 442 cause i always strugle against a 442 flat whuch formation should i yous?❤

  • @guydijkhuispersonal3397
    @guydijkhuispersonal3397 4 года назад

    Love your videos you made me a gold 2 player from my usual silver 1 finish

  • @moneyj3044
    @moneyj3044 4 года назад

    I’m a good fifa player I won 40 games in a row but later on I notice a lot of players do very cheeky passing and my defense doesn’t react how I want them to so ima try this out

  • @hockeyfan1539
    @hockeyfan1539 4 года назад

    I have Gullit and KANTE as cdms, should i sell Kante and buy a better cdm offensively?

  • @saze304
    @saze304 4 года назад +3

    Great vid as always Neal, I got a charity tournament coming up for school, what do U think is the most meta team to use in kick off mode in FIFA? France? Can be club or country thanks

    • @mj23dark
      @mj23dark 4 года назад

      Go with PSG, abuse neymar and Mbappe lol

    • @saze304
      @saze304 4 года назад

      @@mj23dark true but defensively it’s a bit weak, I was thinking France cuz I get the likes of varane, kante, mbappe, yedder and ferland all in one squad pretty OP

    • @NealGuides
      @NealGuides  4 года назад +5

      I think as Eggson said PSG, I would defo go with PSG but if you find them a bit weak and you are allowed internationals then France is really good, if its club only I would go with PSG/Man City/Liverpool! Best wishes with your charity tournament!

    • @StrikerDeluxe
      @StrikerDeluxe 4 года назад

      @@saze304 if you are a good player who can abuse Neymar and Mbappe use PSG. If you are not consistently hitting 24+ wins each week I'd go with Liverpool due to them having 11 very good players rather than 2 players and 9 dummies.

    • @saze304
      @saze304 4 года назад

      @@StrikerDeluxe Liverpool CDMs and full backs are too slow n shit, I think France is the best option, every meta card is on that team

  • @nurhussien3264
    @nurhussien3264 4 года назад

    What if i have RTTF Renato Sanches(H/H) and Baby Vieira(M/M) at CDM? Which instructions do i use for them?

  • @ssb-ja3362
    @ssb-ja3362 4 года назад +1

    Would pogba work as an attacking cm

  • @jonathanlarios925
    @jonathanlarios925 4 года назад

    Thank you mate I been wining my games lately

  • @arransloan5974
    @arransloan5974 3 года назад

    Thank you so much need 3 wins from 4 to get g3 and this video made me win 3 in a trot amazing video thank you

  • @WillL-ex7re
    @WillL-ex7re 4 года назад

    Sick video all very good points I always find myself getting annoyed at my full backs not making the overlap run when I play a one two thanks

  • @auraluster1119
    @auraluster1119 3 года назад

    idk if its only to me but when i put my rm and lm to the cam position they have 4 chemestry instead of 10 they had should i change their positions or buy new?I just saw dembele and bambawhich they are also r,l (w,m)

    • @callangaffney3123
      @callangaffney3123 3 года назад

      U have to change their positions in the custom tactics tab, not on the actual squad bit

  • @lefab1737
    @lefab1737 4 года назад

    Long ball with this formation is good ?

  • @erikgames8165
    @erikgames8165 3 года назад +1

    What about LB?

  • @jbliggidy123
    @jbliggidy123 4 года назад +4

    This formation is LITERALLY meta in EVERY fifa lol its very good for human v human play

  • @jack24barr
    @jack24barr 4 года назад

    thanks so much man!

  • @jack_flash275
    @jack_flash275 3 года назад

    So to clarify, you're editing "Ultra Defensive" here? What about defensive, balanced, attacking etc? or do you just stay Ultra Defensive the whole match?

  • @daboomchakalaka7898
    @daboomchakalaka7898 4 года назад +1

    Hey man I really need some help here, my 2 CDMs are DeJong and Llorente, which one should I stay back with and which one should I attack with?

    • @pitek00
      @pitek00 4 года назад

      Stay back with Llorente, Forward with DeJong

    • @sabirmohamed88
      @sabirmohamed88 4 года назад

      @@pitek00 yea

  • @bilalmustafa948
    @bilalmustafa948 4 года назад +1

    Great content as usual....

  • @ainansyabil2272
    @ainansyabil2272 4 года назад

    Is it can work on balance game plans ?

  • @bolazz_723
    @bolazz_723 4 года назад

    Is curved monitor better than flat one for fifa?

  • @iliasilias1124
    @iliasilias1124 4 года назад

    Love your content bro❤❤

  • @simonmercebach6033
    @simonmercebach6033 4 года назад

    what do you start with?

  • @andresseminario3978
    @andresseminario3978 4 года назад

    Hello Neal, why you have Mbappe on Cam and Neymar ST and not Mbappe ST and Neymar CAM?

  • @Stvn-vh9js
    @Stvn-vh9js 4 года назад

    Keep it up 👍

  • @oliverarita1316
    @oliverarita1316 4 года назад

    Do you think this formation would work for pro clubs?

  • @baptistegueirard8213
    @baptistegueirard8213 4 года назад

    This tactic works with Liverpool ?
    What starting 11 do you use with Liverpool ? Who is the striker ?

  • @Dantheman569
    @Dantheman569 4 года назад

    I play 4222, the 2 CAMs + 2 STs offer so much opportunity to score 👍

  • @fifagamingbykerimlulululu5233
    @fifagamingbykerimlulululu5233 4 года назад

    I wasnt Good with 4231 But now with These tacticts the formation is a banger

  • @theyoutubekid6725
    @theyoutubekid6725 4 года назад +1

    Are these good tactics?

  • @botondtakacs3391
    @botondtakacs3391 3 года назад

    Does theese works on 4-2-3-1(2) variaton?

  • @chunksofgaming7094
    @chunksofgaming7094 4 года назад +1

    Cheers neal do you now have a different shut down the game when you have the lead tactic post patch i seem to give up last min goals alot

  • @Andre.barretto
    @Andre.barretto 4 года назад

    Thanks dude

  • @samuelbiswas615
    @samuelbiswas615 4 года назад +6

    Is your previous 442(2) tactics video still relevant after the patch?

    • @Desora
      @Desora 4 года назад +1

      Got elite 3 using it last week. So i guess yes

    • @samuelbiswas615
      @samuelbiswas615 4 года назад

      @@Desora who’s in your team