The truth behind Bish's RV | Is Bish's RV a good dealership?
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*Thank you so much for visiting! Jesse is such a great guy. He never went to "sale guy school" - he has camped himself for years and that experience is so valuable for our clients. And his focus on towing safety is something we really try to instill into our team here*
Can you let me know which Bish's carry the Alliance Avenue's. Thanks.
I knew it! Josh you play basketball after you record videos!
What bought a camper from Jesse just before the change over. Best guy ever! And yes, Josh is just as nice and humble in person as he is on screen. We drove 2 and a half hours from Livonia to buy our camper there.
We picked out our r v a few years ago based on watching all of his reviews !!
I wish Bish’s had a dealership in Oklahoma.
Josh’s videos is what sold us on Rockwood and the model “2109s” that we bought. But we got it here in Oklahoma.
I've watched Josh's videos for years. I am a prospective buyer, not yet an owner. I've been impressed with Josh's apparent honesty and the reputation of Bish's (and Haylett before that). I appreciate the external peek to see that my own video only perspective is apparently pretty spot on! Thanks!
I am a Bish’s RV owner and confess Josh need. He is honest to a fault and I appreciate that. Thank you both for what you are doing. I am a fan as well of yours.
I like that he is talking directly to the woman also. So many times when my wife and I are looking at things to buy wether it's for her or is they talk to me. I just say you talk to her because it's for her. My mother was huge on that mannerism.
We also bought our 5th wheel from Bishes, jesse was our salesman , Jesse spent a lot of time with us after the purchase going over the complete Rv .A very positive experience , and yes we still own it.
I bought my trailer in Coldwater MI, from watching Josh videos. I drove all the way from Washington state to buy haylett rv now bishrv.
That is basically word for word experience we had at Coldwater 5yrs ago (pre-bish ownership). It truly is that simple. They accommodated us as we were coming from Rhode island and did the whole process(purchase papers, walk through and hitch install) in 4 hrs. It was such an amazing experience!
I bought my 2021 Forest River Wildwood 22RBS from Bish's right there in Coldwater. When I found a couple things wrong with it, they went to bat for me with the manufacturer to get it fixed for free. It was there for 3 weeks, but that was only because I wanted a few things while it was there. They were really great about it all. They even did a walk through with me to get my approval after it was done. The entire experience was excellent. If I ever buy another, it will be from Bish's.
Thank you for sharing this video with us. We have followed Josh for several years now. He does a great job with his videos. Glad to know that Bishs RV center is just like it looks like it is. Love your videos also.
Love you guys and love your content, thanks for visiting Bish's RV. I've been watching Josh way before Bish's bought out his family owned Haylett RV. I always liked his style, and now I know more about Bish's and how they do business.
Oh my God, JOE; Rachel is so ADORABLE! You got you a catch. Love her contagious smile. ❤
Thank you
Bish’s just recently purchased the RV dealer we have dealt with since we started camping! They kept a lot of the same employees and we have been really happy with customer service since the change took place! They really know their stuff!!! 😊
I love this sales guy, the most laid back sales guy I have ever seen, and I’ve seen a bunch. At the same time, I feel he’s a top notch guy in all respects and a very qualified sales rep. These guys have it all figured out
We live in Louisville, KY. When we went to Mackinaw Island 2022, we drove to Cold water, MI (about halfway to Mackinaw Island for us). We stayed at The Waffle Farm CG. Very nice CG. We got set up at went to Camping World and then to Haylett’s RV (now Bush’s). We enjoyed looking at the campers. I wanted to meet Josh the RV nerd but he wasn’t there at the time. I have watch hundreds of his reviews.
Bish’s is awesome! We won their camper give-away and Jesse and the entire team was amazing! They also winterize the trailer for us each year! Such a blessing!
So we drove from Toledo to that Bish's. Everyone was very friendly. We had a great experience looking at everything.
We have had a few bumps in the road, and we have had to delay our purchase. When we are ready, I want to buy from Bish's.
Buying was ok, but the service is not there, if service is not good that ruins the buying process that we had. (Good Luck)
Thank you for your Guidance about the *importance* of having a rv inspector check out a possible future unit, whether it's new or used.
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Great video guys! Josh is a great dude!
Thanks for this video!
Very informative lots of information great Job. Love Josh the RV nerd he's awesome Jesse's was great as well .
Weve been talking about buying from Bishs. Driving from Illinois to look at Alliance. I think after listening to the video, we'll be making that trip. Thanks KK appreciate the information.
We have a Bish's here in the Omaha area. Nice to have an ethical dealership to deal with!
Our local Bish’s have always been good to us. We bought from them three years ago and it was a great experience. Def would buy from them again.
Bish's RV in Idaho Falls is our go to! They are awesome to deal with and we have been well taken care of there. TFS.
Thanks for the great video. I have been following Josh's videos and if I decide to buy another RV it will be from Bish RV.
Thank you for this video we will probably buy our next RV from the one in Richmond VA!!! Love the personal touch.
Just picked up our GO PLAY 20 FBS from Richmond. The staff were great!
I am on my 6th camper and no one has ever asked me what am I towing it with. Luckily I learned that early on.
Nothing but a great experience buying our Montana 5th wheel in both Omaha Nebraska, and in Oregon.
Thanks
My wife and I purchased our 233s from the same Bishs it was an awesome experience The only complaint we had was the licensing process Picked up in May and finally received our tags in September. We caused some delay but dealing with the title work In another state was problematic Saying that would def buy again from Bish's glad they have a new one in Indiana.
Thanks, guys! I have a Bish's right down the street!
I have been learning about RV’s from Josh. I bought my first RV to live stationary in Florida by a lakeside. Jayco White Hawk 26 Fk . Blue Compass RV offers ONE YEAR INCLUDED RV TECHNICAL ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE. VIP MEMBERSHIP . RV COMPLETE included with the purchase.
I’m a big fan of Josh and was hoping to see more of him but at least he made an appearance. They seem like a great outfit and if I lived close in the states I would definitely look them up.
we have a separate video where we interviewed him
I wish someone had schooled me in towing vs cargo capacity before my purchase. I think I will get it worked out with my Tundra and my 263 RBS, but so far, struggling to tow it comfortably. I’m making some adjustments to the equalizer hitch and will be testing that to see if it’s over/under adjusted.
Love, love, Love Bish's! Their customer service the the very best, bar none!
That blue sky is gorgeous.
We bought our TT from that exact store. NOT impressed!!! They didn't do a walk around to show us how to do anything. We were NOT asked what we would be towing with. We had to hook up the trailer by ourselves. We had a warranty issue and they were hohumming around instead of getting it fixed. Obviously, on camera, they tell you what you want to hear, but we literally dealt with them and it was like, hurry up and buy it and go! I would only buy from them again, if I absolutely had to!
Shout out to the Idaho Falls, ID location. My wife and I can tell you that we have never had a better purchasing experience than what they delivered. Our review is on Google under their location which gives all the details however simply put they go so far above and beyond.
I agree with you about the Twin Falls location. Our first experience with a Bishs's RV Dealer. We stopped there to look at a Brinkley Z2900 fifth wheel on our way home from Arizona. Had a great tour from Shane Smith and we will be be back!
You can't blame roads for crap materials and lazy workmanship. Cars and trucks are on those SAME roads and they don't fall apart!! Poor craftmanship can't be blamed on the highway. If it is sold to hit the road then the builder should be held to the standard of competency to build a product that is road worthy. Shoddy workmanship is the reason things break, not the road conditions.
There is a huge difference between cars/trucks and RVs. Cars and Trucks are made out of metal and bolted and riveted together. RVs are made out of wood and screwed/nailed together. When you shake and rattle wood thats screwed together, it will come loose over time. They could absolutely use heavier wood and more screws however that would significantly increase the weight and cost of the units. Many people would not be able to afford them and you would have far fewer 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton towable RVs. I can also tell you the roads we experienced up north even rattled loose some of the trim in our F250
@@2KrazyKampers I haven't had a lot of experience with RV's but I have owned several boats and I have never had the same problem from any boat that I see people have from some of the newer RV's. And a boat takes far more pounding than any land vehicle other than a Jeep, of which I have owned many. I have put millions of miles on Jeeps on trails and roads and have never had any piece fall off or fitting back out. Brinkley is the only manufacture at this time I would trust to produce an RV that I would consider road worthy and up to a decent standard. Simply put, if something is made to move it should be made to stay intact while moving, anything otherwise is simply incompetency or just not caring about the quality of the build. I just refuse to believe that we can put men on the moon but we can't build a simple vehicle that won't fall apart if it is moved.
@@DraggonCanoe I understand what you are saying but again, RV's are made to be light and affordable. Boats that are roughly the same length of an RV weigh significantly more. You mention Brinkley. Brinkleys are nice RV's but they weigh and cost significantly more than other RVs. For example, the Brinkley Model Z air 285 has an MSRP of $88,000 and has an UVW of 9242 pounds. The comparable Alliance would be the 292RL or the 294rk (both are the same length as the Brinkley). Both units have an MSRP of $57,000. The 292rl has an UVW of 7486 pounds and the 294rk is 7156 pounds. That means the Brinkley cost $31k more than both Alliance RV's and weighs 2000 pounds more. Also, Brinkleys are having issues as well
@@2KrazyKampers I admit that everything made has issues, but the difference in the build process and the quality of material in the Brinkley far outweighs the difference in cost. But think of it this way also, look at light aircraft. The cost of a new small airplane may seem high but knowing that it has been very well built and tested is an absolute necessity at a mile above the ground. If I were towing three to four tons behind me and had the responsibility to ensure not only my safety but the safety of everyone around me I would want that same assurance in the tow unit. And that is something I would feel confident with towing a Brinkley, not so much with other brands. I have known many people who live in their RV, they travel from one construction job to the next. That person has to know they can move their residence at any time over many miles and arrive on time and in one piece. Anything less could cost them their livelihood. I think most manufactures are doing themselves a huge disservice by not building to higher standards and not having stricter quality control. Three very large automobile companies nearly went out of business forty years ago due to the same issues that the RV industry is going through now. If history is ignored it will repeat itself unfortunately.
Our old popup was a Rockwood excellent camper
Really looking forward to the Bish Fix experience. Love the “Can Rachel fix it?” Criteria! ❤️😆
We had a Rockwood and loved it. I definitely need a separate bedroom! Alliance 26 RD is our new trailer.
Really cool video ya'll 😊🏕
Love your channel
Great video
I did not purchase our rv from Bish’s but their service department is off the charts in excellence. They are kind, help out where they can, keep us appraised on what is being done and when, provides photos of broken parts if there are any, they stay in contact, always return calls and texts as soon as they can. Bish’s is the gold star example for excellent customer service.
In Junction City OR Bish's took over a long time family RV dealership. Sounds good. My husband was a Master RV Tech.
Thank for mentioning- No Slide 👍
Love your soundtrack!
Great review- Bish’s looks like a trustworthy dealership- Josh and Jesse 👍
I'd trust Bish's RV before I'd trust Camping World,...run as far away as you can from Camping World!
I am sending my daughter who lives in Illinois to look for a used RV. She saw the 2018 Heartland Pioneer BH270, which has her requirements for a trailer. A bedroom to the right, with a door, bunk beds, and a door out the bathroom. And of course the price. The only issue is that’s it’s in Montana.
if i could ever afford a camper i would definitly buy it at bish's. I watch alot of joshes videos.
You two are so much fun! "Units" should be made to drive on those roads and not have things come lose. Come on now, they know what conditions those things will be driving in. It's not just about the looks.
Always check the breakers and fuses first! ALWAYS!
Bish’s Service in Kearney and Cheyenne are both awesome and accommodating.
Bish’s in Anderson, IN is horrific. I’m not sure anyone even works there. I’ve put in several calls to both the parts and the service department. No one calls back. They apparently make all the money they need to make.
We found another place to help us out. They made it easy for us to give them our money.
I deliver RVs to dealerships, you could not sell me their junk. Nothing against Bish’s, they do good work. However, I built my own, there is nothing like it sold in America. The corners don’t leak, the solar will run 2 RVs, axel upgrades with all new springs, brakes, bearings, all electrical new, full size shower and macerator toilet.
One nice thing with the Bish fix is if you can not get to a Bish's they will subcontract with a mobile RV tech like me to come to you.
Well that was a nice ad.
sorry you feel it was an ad. We were not compensated in any way. We genuinely wanted to know what the buying experience was like there. They had no idea we were going to film anything. We told Josh we were going to come say hello and when we got there, we asked if we could film the shopping experience. We randomly picked a salesperson and did not prep him at all
Not all bish’s are the same, just like any other large dealerships. We purchased from them and after 3 months and MANY many many phone calls from us and our county treasurer office and a complete day of driving to two locations and demanding our title, title in hand FINALLY a week later for a total of 3 months. So they aren’t all the same.
My local Bishs service department leaves a lot to be desired. Horrible communication. They never call to update you, you have to call them.
Sales team was great, wish the service matched.
Sorry to hear that
I got my wild wood fsx last August From Jesse!
We also purchased our Newmar Ventana from Bish's in Meridian ID, and it has been the most enjoyable experience we have ever had buying an RV. We have owned our coach for 13 months and from sales to parts to service Bish's is top notch. They go out of their way to take care of the customer and to make sure they are happy. We will never purchase another RV from any place else. 10 stars in our opinion.
Funny, when I buy a new car or truck I don’t have screws falling out after 1000 miles.
How are you buying the Bish Fix program? Did you purchase it through a Bish dealer but picked it up from the Alliance Factory to save shipping costs?
We did not purchase our RV from Bish’s. After hearing about the Bish Fix program, we made arrangements with the company to test the program to see if it really is what they say it is. We are not being compensated for it
I love Josh and his videos so when I reached out to Bish to ask about a purchase and then maybe a possible trade-in on my 2021 trailer. The price for the new one wasn’t bad could’ve been better but not bad but when they wanted to only give me $13k which other dealers are selling exact same one for 27k to 31,000 currently. He sent me a picture of the JD power connect. I’m not sure how that blue book works, but it sure is a lot different than the RV books. His says 17k used retail. No way would an rv only 3 years old drop 20+k. They have a used 2023 same model on their lot for 35k sale price. 😢
That’s how the dealerships price used trailers to make a profit. They purchase a trade in for $13K (50% of resell value) and then resell for $27K. Call them back and ask for $25K for a trade in value. They still make $2,000 profit.
Unfortunately thats how trades work in the RV industry. JD powers does a pretty good job at RV values. When we sold our previous RV, 4 different dealerships offered us around $11,000. We sold it privately fro $24. It also had about $16k in upgrades. On average, RV values go down between 30-40% as soon as you drive it off the lot.
I tried that we walked around my unit with Bishfix around the 4 th of may was supposed to have it at Bishs in Kearney, Nebraska on the 12 of April at 9 am dropped it off at 845 freezer full of food 14000 dollars worth of medicine in the refrigerator let them know that the unit needed to be plugged in stopped back at 230 my unit was still citing outside not plugged in they hadn’t even had it in the shop they locked at it for 1 1/2 hour didn’t get anything submitted to warranty until the 23 of April we will end up leaving are Jayco in Kearney, Nebraska, and loading all our stuff in the trailer that we purchased to haul it back to Minnesota. Once again, we will probably not have our camper all summer for the third summer in a row.
sorry you had that experience
You visited Josh the RV Nerd!
We bought a pinnacle 5th wheel in 2019 , got rid of it and bought a Newmar class A from bish’s . We were promised all fluids will be changed a a complete checkout of everything . Well we waited a few days for them to go through it and we got the call it’s done . We went and picked it up and asked what all was done . They said everything was checked and even the wipers were changed , we were lied to nothing was checked and they wouldn’t do anything about it . We went home and changed fluids and wiper blades . Wow this was disappointing. This was in Meridian , Idaho . Be careful of RV sale lots . The are very nice until you sign on the dotted line
Just wondering
My wife and I are from East Bradenton Florida
You keep talking about I-4 Corredor IE Lazy Days etc
How important is the inspection? I am new to Rving and looking to buy one in the next 6 months.
In my opinion, very important. RV’s are built by hand. After they are built, they are driven on the road (sometimes over 1500 miles depending on where you purchase it) to the dealer. Things shake loose while driving. In addition, there are several components like AC’s, stoves, fridges that come from other manufacturers. Think about buying a home, should you buy one without having an inspection done? Inspectors will find little things that you dont even know to look for. They pressure test propane and water lines, they check all appliances, inspect the roof, check the electrical and more
Also ck all caulking. We purchased a previous year on sale. I don't believe they kept up with outside maintenance, while it sat on their lot for a year. I honestly believe we had water damage from this, before we bought it! We didn't know better.
Do you have a reliable pickup.
I cant find one
We have an F250 Diesel. This is my 5th Ford truck and they have all been reliable. My first one was in an accident. My first Diesel got over 300k miles before I traded it. My next one was stolen. And I traded in my last one to switch from gas to diesel.
Jesse's awesome, I've worked a few shows with him!
Josh is a “Dolt”. Jessie is a “Slob”. Enough said😂
While this could be an accurate depiction of the service. The fact that you knew Josh ahead of time, tells me this isn't necessarily un-biased and the way it would be at all the locations. However Jesse definitely wasn't no slouch on his RV information. I've used the service from the Meridian location and have very mixed feelings about it.
Learned to pack with 2 bikes and a side car with 2 children . You pack small and compact.
Tried to spend my money with them. Wanted to place an order for a new unit. Poor communication didnt even try to earn a sale. insulted me by low balling my trade. Said " we dont do real well with trades. You can try selling it yourself" I was there a few months before that looking at an in stock unit and got decent intrest and they even offered me a decent trade price. Same sales person both times. So unless its an instock unit dont waste you time at this place. Went up state and got 7k more for my trade. Never again will i step foot in that store.
After selling our RV, we found most dealerships dont really want to take trades. We were only offered $10k-$11k for our Grand Design at 3 different dealerships even though JD Powers had it estimated at a value of $20k and that wasn’t even taking into account we had over $15k in upgrades added. We ended up selling it on our own for $24k
Honestly, I don’t think any dealers tha give the best prices on the units they sell, can give high trade in prices? I’m thinking used rv are hard to sell because you have no idea of hidden things like are the sealers failing on the cap rails, etc. I talked to Bishs on the phone in Coldwater, they were nice, gave great price since my local one didn’t carry Jayco. The shipping from there to Richmond made it not work, but I really like Josh, and now, this sales guy too.
We used a movie camera during the inspection, walk through.
Not really a news based video is it? From the little I watched. it's looks like an infomercial for Bish's. Don't get me wrong, I am sure they are all wonderful ppl but people trying to find the truth about anything do so covertly with hidden camera and the like.
You can not upload hidden camera videos of people without their permission. If the camera is in plain view, then they don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The salesman did not know we were going to film. We showed up and slapped a mic on him. He was not prepped or anything. We were not paid by Bish's RV and did not purchase our RV from them
Come to Louisiana you will love Florida roads. Lol
The inherent shakedown of every trip, means you, the owner, need to ck connections and screws on a regular basis.
"Campus" ❤ 🙂
Bishs is so unorganized I bought a camper over a month ago and the still haven’t sent the title to dmv yet windows leaked in a 2022 I traded it in and now I’m wait for them to do a camper check on my new camper n they still haven’t started I would not recommend them in Lincoln ne
Gotta love how people capitalize on someone else's channel to get hits
Glad you think thats what we were doing. Bish's RV is buying up dealerships similar to other companies. They are touted to be a better company so what is wrong with going there to check them out. When a company says they are offering something like Bish Fix and thats why you should shop with them, what's wrong making a video about its. We have requested other dealerships allow us to film and have been told no.
Bish's here in Junction City, Oregon bought a very successful RV business, it looks like an RV lot with a lot less RVs. Not Bish's fault, the fault of the market.
Is this live?
no
Does Bish sell super c like Thor
I don’t know. We don’t have any association with Bish’s
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I really wanted to watch your vid but way too much road footage, fluff and the entro too long so I lost interest like 4 minutes in
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Josh
I thought this was going to be like two random people walking in and showing what the experience is for typical people. But clearly they know this is a PR opportunity, so this doesn’t really have value in showing the real experience. Still interesting I guess, I mean, I watched it..
We were not paid for the video and have no affiliation with Bish's RV. We honestly went in to see what happens when you go there
@@2KrazyKampers I am not accusing you guys of being paid shills or anything like that. It just seems you are associated by the way you interact with their RUclips host and the staff, or at the very least it is obvious to them they need to put on their PR glasses knowing the video is going on popular RV RUclips channel.
I am not familiar with your channel. This is just my observation surfing RUclips and clicking your video. The title made me think this is more of a "secret shopper" thing, which has value in demonstrating what real-world experiences are like. If a Secret Shopper went and told the staff about what they were doing, the staff would know to put on a show, so there would be no point.
No problem with your video at all. Just the way it's titled is misleading IMO.
@@Gubers I understand where you are coming from. We did show up and did not inform them we were going to film. We also grabbed a random salesperson and didn't "coach" him or anything. We simply asked him if we can put a mic on him and walk around. Yes, we did greet Josh the RV nerd since we recently interviewed him but that was the first time we actually met him. Even he didn't know we were going to film anything. He offered to show us around and we said we would rathe it be a regular salesman who wasn't used to being on camera and would be able to answer questions as a salesman and not a PR person.
sorry this is not real world
How much did Bish pay these Yahoos? One big commercial. Good grief.
We were not paid by Bish's and have no affiliation with them at all. In fact, we did not even buy our RV from them.
What a bunch of promotional BS. This is not a review. It's an advertisement. Slides never leak and never have any problems. Sure. What planet are these people on. So, I guess if you go to Bish's your buying experience is -- buy a Rockwood. Great.
Well we were not paid or compensated in any way for the video so I don't know how it can be an advertisement. We can only film what our experience was
I disagree Alliance did not do a great job to make sure our new 252RL was in amazing condition when it left the factory. I plan to make my own video to show all the issues we are having. Very low standards poor workmanship at least one guy didn’t take pride in his job. That’s for sure.
This video does not represent the experience I’ve had with Bish’s RV. All they wanted was my money and then tried to sell me a $13,000 extended warranty. I hired a certified RV inspector for this new grand design and he created 137 page list of items that he checked out that either was OK or needed attention. I passed this list onto the salesman which he passed it on to the technician to take care of and to address the problems. Upper managers intercepted the list so none of these issues were addressed until I got there to pick up the RV. I had to stay there the entire day with a technician to get these issues addressed and repaired. I should have walked. I recently was doing some maintenance to the grand design fifth wheel, which I have only had since September of 23 and noticed there were cracks in the hubs. I sent an email to the salesman to inquire about how to go about starting a warranty on those cracked hubs. No reply just crickets. I am sure that not all dealerships are the same but the one I dealt with will prevent me from dealing with the Bish’s RVs company again. Buyer beware!
I’m surprised you were allowed to get an inspector for the rig. The dealer I worked with does not allow inspections from outside inspect.
@@reesebeast1949if a dealer won’t let you have a inspection just leave.
Kinda cringy..
Great Video. Thanks. Q: On the Bish Fix thing after sale, isn't the repair priority only in the first 30 days, thought I read that somewhere in the terms. I will NEVER pay for a tech to walk around with an Inspector., Walk... The scam tech fee is to pay above the warranty repairs they get reimbursed on from the manufacturer. RUN... Bish is still on my list for a new Alliance Avenue. Q2 Which Bish's Carry Alliance @JoshtheRVNerd
As far as priority, we can only tell you what they stated. I think the idea behind the Bish Fix is to be able to lower the amount of time the rig spends in the shop. If they can get it diagnosed through video calls, parts can be ordered and then when they come in, you can bring the unit in for installation. Many times, RVs sit in repair shops for months just waiting for a diagnosis and then they have to order and wait for parts. In speaking with the owner of Bish’s, he said around half of the issues can be solved without ever having to bring the unit in for service. I think the “tech fee” for having a tech walk with an inspector is a way for dealerships to discourage the use of an inspector.
We had an absolute horrible experience dealing with Bishes. We chose a camper based on Josh's vid, made a call and got the president who passed us off the the nearest dealer to us. Placed a deposit , was passed from dealer, to dealer, to dealer with little or no communication. Don't buy from any Bishes dealers in Montana. Totally incompetent and ....we didn't get our dream trailer. Horrible experience resulting in no desire to ever do business with them.