Last week I purchased my first caravan and this is the type of trip that I aspire to but think I'll work up to it first 🤣 Just ordered a jumbo pack of Peggy Pegs and a couple of pet pegs using your code - thanks
Bit of a lost in translation here, allemansrätten only applies to camping with a tent - i.e. if you hike, backpack and camp in a tent. You can however park anywhere with a Blue P parking sign for 24 Hours or until the next coming workday if its the weekend. But that is just parking, getting tables and chairs out. bbqs and sunloungers etc is classed as camping and you could be told to move on, although that is very very rare as most of the Swedes do it themselves anyways. Welcome back !
Yes I did get slightly different versions of what allemansrätten allowed, both when searching online and also talking to Swedish colleagues and friends. Which is why I tried to make it clear that you couldn't leave traces such as tyre tracks and also to research more before planning any overnight stays outside of camp sites. But thankyou very much for taking the time to give a really good explanation, it's really helpful. Looking forward to being welcomed back in a year or so hopefully :-)
Thanks Dave for this comprehensive summary. Having visited Sweden for work it is definitely appealing as somewhere different from the well trodden Southern Europe touring destinations.
Hello...the alternative route avoiding the Puttgarden-Rödby ferry is not a money saver. For a car +caravan the price is 420DKK per journey and the fuel consumption increases as the route is longer than the ferry route. Furthermore it is time consuming and it is important to consider that the ferry less stressful and allows a decent rest break.
Totally agree that the cost will likely be similar unless of course the vehicle has much better fuel economy. We never got as far as finding out how much the "Little Belt" bridge cost as we got turned back due the winds tho 🤣
so what i am hearing is you need some deep pockets to caravan from Britain into Sweden once again i believe the average working clas citizen cannot afford this lifestyle unless your able to save for a once in a lifetime trip Europe really is the wealthy and the peasant no middle class
The main reasons for the high total price are the ferry and bridge crossings and the number of nights. Our car and van do make up for a long rig which affects ferry and toll charges quite significantly. (Also it's not the most fuel efficient vehicle.) As I mentioned there are also lots of free - "parkup" options to reduce the site cost further. The number of nights is the other significant factor a twenty five night holiday is, I suspect, quite long for most people but it actually works out at £125.84 per night. Again a lot of money for many people, but I'm sure you'd find a lot of holidays on offer in the UK and elsewhere with similar per night costs without travel. I'm not suggesting Sweden is a low cost holiday, far from it, and it probably is a once in a lifetime trip for many. Or an infrequent special trip for others. As a "Lifestyle" for people with limitless free time, actually I suspect that it would be a relatively low cost option for some, since site prices in Europe generally and the ample options of free or very low cost "parkups" in Sweden would offset the ferry and toll cost significantly. Either way I just wanted to be as transparent and detailed about the costs as possible so that people can see them and work out if such a trip was right for them. I hope you at least found it interesting and informative.
Last week I purchased my first caravan and this is the type of trip that I aspire to but think I'll work up to it first 🤣
Just ordered a jumbo pack of Peggy Pegs and a couple of pet pegs using your code - thanks
Best of luck with your new caravan, I'm sure it will open up lots of opportunities for travel and adventures.
Bit of a lost in translation here, allemansrätten only applies to camping with a tent - i.e. if you hike, backpack and camp in a tent. You can however park anywhere with a Blue P parking sign for 24 Hours or until the next coming workday if its the weekend. But that is just parking, getting tables and chairs out. bbqs and sunloungers etc is classed as camping and you could be told to move on, although that is very very rare as most of the Swedes do it themselves anyways. Welcome back !
Yes I did get slightly different versions of what allemansrätten allowed, both when searching online and also talking to Swedish colleagues and friends. Which is why I tried to make it clear that you couldn't leave traces such as tyre tracks and also to research more before planning any overnight stays outside of camp sites. But thankyou very much for taking the time to give a really good explanation, it's really helpful. Looking forward to being welcomed back in a year or so hopefully :-)
Thanks Dave for this comprehensive summary. Having visited Sweden for work it is definitely appealing as somewhere different from the well trodden Southern Europe touring destinations.
Yes, it is definitely worth visiting as it does have a different vibe and is very beautiful.
Hello...the alternative route avoiding the Puttgarden-Rödby ferry is not a money saver. For a car +caravan the price is 420DKK per journey and the fuel consumption increases as the route is longer than the ferry route. Furthermore it is time consuming and it is important to consider that the ferry less stressful and allows a decent rest break.
Totally agree that the cost will likely be similar unless of course the vehicle has much better fuel economy. We never got as far as finding out how much the "Little Belt" bridge cost as we got turned back due the winds tho 🤣
so what i am hearing is you need some deep pockets to caravan from Britain into Sweden once again i believe the average working clas citizen cannot afford this lifestyle unless your able to save for a once in a lifetime trip Europe really is the wealthy and the peasant no middle class
The main reasons for the high total price are the ferry and bridge crossings and the number of nights. Our car and van do make up for a long rig which affects ferry and toll charges quite significantly. (Also it's not the most fuel efficient vehicle.) As I mentioned there are also lots of free - "parkup" options to reduce the site cost further. The number of nights is the other significant factor a twenty five night holiday is, I suspect, quite long for most people but it actually works out at £125.84 per night. Again a lot of money for many people, but I'm sure you'd find a lot of holidays on offer in the UK and elsewhere with similar per night costs without travel.
I'm not suggesting Sweden is a low cost holiday, far from it, and it probably is a once in a lifetime trip for many. Or an infrequent special trip for others. As a "Lifestyle" for people with limitless free time, actually I suspect that it would be a relatively low cost option for some, since site prices in Europe generally and the ample options of free or very low cost "parkups" in Sweden would offset the ferry and toll cost significantly.
Either way I just wanted to be as transparent and detailed about the costs as possible so that people can see them and work out if such a trip was right for them.
I hope you at least found it interesting and informative.