I suppose I need to do my own video on the H9 at some point. The Hudsons made continually bad business decisions, deliberately didn’t take good advice on improving their product from other industry professionals, or advise on how to market and sell it better. They outsourced everything and then blamed their subcontractors for problems. They announced the H9A months before it was ready and cannibalized their own sales because people waited for the new lighter and cheaper model. They then left their subcontractors holding the bag for hundreds of thousands of dollars. They didn’t return warranty guns to 80+ customers when they closed down. And all of this is absolutely absurd when you find out they started with $10million and know what the sales volume actually was.
Yes, I’m sure your inside knowledge would make a great video - whether you choose to make it about the gun or the business shenanigans. I speak from a fan of the gun perspective, not the people. I enjoy it. I have purchased stuff from you to try to lengthen my enjoyment.
@@Exit0WoundI appreciate the support! I wish we could have gotten the small parts in the bankruptcy to be able to help people keep their guns running 😡
I have 2 H9 pistols. One of them I also replaced the front sight with a lower fiber optic one from Hudson. The second one I had the slide custom cut for an optic by Cylinder & Slide, installed a US Optics DRS 2.0. Both of these pistols have been flawless. I had a third H9, and I sent it back to Hudson due to a broken extractor. I never got it back from them, was a victim of their going out of business debacle. Both of my H9 pistols have also had all of the MIM parts on it replaced with custom forged parts by a local gunsmith who is a close friend of mine. He has a shop that is also an aerospace contractor. If and when Daniel Defense releases their version of the H9, I'm definitely picking one up. I also have an RIA 5.0, which I believe is superior to the H9.
Reminds me of a cop buddy I had back in the 80's....he loved offbeat obscure pistols and actually carried an ASP 9mm off duty....he also spent a chuck on a Bren Ten....after months & months, he finally got his pistol... never found any magazines for it, LOL...but he had the gun.... undoubtedly the most expensive single shot he ever owned
I have a Bren Ten from the 80s, absolutely love it. I have 15 magazines and 2 spare barrels for it as well. Believe that they were made by Mec-Gar? I have not seen any complete magazines for sale anywhere, but I can get replacement magazine springs for the three magazines I use from Wolff.
Great video! I love and miss shooting mine! I won many local and a few major IDPA matches with mine before it broke. I fixed it, before it broke again, and again. I still own my paperweight, and hope DD offers a gen 2.
Cy was my classmate at WP and he and I were in the same major. I always felt like his side of the story in this didn’t get the fair shake it deserved. It took a lot of guts doing what he did and I hope he’s doing well.
Getting $10 million from your dad to start a company and blowing it all in a few years, and leaving all your vendors holding the bag for hundreds of thousands of dollars is a hell of an accomplishment!
It's a shame about the h9, I thought it was a super cool gun and probably was gonna buy one at the time/back then. I was waiting for there lightweight frame option. But then I started hear rumors of it going bankrupt. Well hopefully in the future they decided or sell the design to put it back in production.
Exit0Wound - I’m not a super hardcore gun aficionado - however I do have this firearm and love it. I was curious if you know what spare parts would be a smart investment to future-proof the reliability. I appreciate any info since!
Howdy! At hudsongunparts.com you can get strikers, extractors, slide stop, take down levers, trigger safety blade, metal back plate, thumb safety plug, and rear sight. I picked up the striker and extractors and felt OK with that level of parts. A couple people have mentioned in previous comments that they had the back plate come off and the striker assembly went flying out the back. No mention of the back plate breaking, though. I hope this helps. Take care!
Thank you for the info. A guy at my local gun shop mentioned he had to replace 3 recoil springs when he had this firearm also - do you happen to know where I could accumulate a couple of those? @@Exit0Wound
so I have a question- you mention the guns, you mention the extra parts you have and that you changed out a couple of parts. My question is: why did you change out the parts? Were there problems? Or did you just go ahead and swap out to the upgraded parts (like glocks do with trigger kits all day long?) Also, since owning and shooting your H9's... any other part failures? Issues? I have a line on one and I've always wanted one... but NOT if it's going to sit in it's fancy box. For me (like an H&K P9S), it will be on my hip... at the range... in the wild.... Thanks for your time.
Howdy! I purchased the extra parts just in case something ever broke. The only parts I have changed were the front sight on one pistol, the grip panels, and the mag bases. All pretty superficial. The front sight was to correct for the low point of impact on that gun. My second H9 does not have that issue. The grip panels because of sweaty hands in Texas during shooting competitions. I like the factory grips, but wanted a more aggressive grip when it was hot. The factory mag plates are plastic. Dropping them on gravel was leading to some scratches. I went with the KE Arms mag plates for a little more mass to aid in dropping mags and durability. I have not had any issues with the factory mag plates. So far, no issues with any parts failing. No issues with functionality. Take care!
thanks for this video, as you can see on my own videos posted on youtube I am the only 1 that competes with it, shot my h9 about 12k rounds untill the firing pin broke, sold it but i missed it badly.
I think the hype train built up a lot of steam and the decision makers at the company, in a rush to capitalize on the frenzy, let it leave the station too soon. It's not necessarily wrong to try and strike while the iron is hot but it can lead you to make mistakes that would have been avoided with patience, levelheadedness, and commitment to being best to market, not first to market.
I love the way it looks and the 1911 trigger is awesome. But using MIM parts on an $1,100 pistol, really? If you're paying that kind of money the parts should not be powdered metal, they should be real machined steel.
Kinda like Kimber going from the excellent forged McCormack parts to MIM parts, and then raising their prices a bit. Corporate greed. We have seen the MIM parts fail on many Kimber pistols, that never happened with Chip's parts. Kimber pistols were also superior when their company was in their original shop in Oregon, before they moved to NY and used mass production. I love my older Oregon made custom Kimber. For the price, Charles Daly makes a superior 1911. My favorite deep carry 9mm is a Kimber EVO CS though, it is a superb little pistol!
@@Exit0Wound you sir are a hero. I bought one on initial release, somehow the back plate came off during a range trip and the plunger that held the plate in place launched itself into oblivion. Don't suppose you know where I can find one of those, needed a new striker return spring as well.
@@Exit0Wound you're the only one that's understood what I was talking about. That would be awesome. It's just been a proverbial paperweight this whole time.
There are several polymer framed pistols that I love. My Sig P365XL and P365SAS especially. But I do prefer all metal pistols. My primary carry gun is a Kimber EVO CS.
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I suppose I need to do my own video on the H9 at some point.
The Hudsons made continually bad business decisions, deliberately didn’t take good advice on improving their product from other industry professionals, or advise on how to market and sell it better.
They outsourced everything and then blamed their subcontractors for problems.
They announced the H9A months before it was ready and cannibalized their own sales because people waited for the new lighter and cheaper model.
They then left their subcontractors holding the bag for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
They didn’t return warranty guns to 80+ customers when they closed down.
And all of this is absolutely absurd when you find out they started with $10million and know what the sales volume actually was.
Yes, I’m sure your inside knowledge would make a great video - whether you choose to make it about the gun or the business shenanigans.
I speak from a fan of the gun perspective, not the people. I enjoy it. I have purchased stuff from you to try to lengthen my enjoyment.
@@Exit0WoundI appreciate the support!
I wish we could have gotten the small parts in the bankruptcy to be able to help people keep their guns running 😡
Yes, sir!
Looks like you missed out and someone else got them lol, a bunch of parts are on eBay and gun broker.
I have 2 H9 pistols. One of them I also replaced the front sight with a lower fiber optic one from Hudson. The second one I had the slide custom cut for an optic by Cylinder & Slide, installed a US Optics DRS 2.0. Both of these pistols have been flawless. I had a third H9, and I sent it back to Hudson due to a broken extractor. I never got it back from them, was a victim of their going out of business debacle. Both of my H9 pistols have also had all of the MIM parts on it replaced with custom forged parts by a local gunsmith who is a close friend of mine. He has a shop that is also an aerospace contractor.
If and when Daniel Defense releases their version of the H9, I'm definitely picking one up. I also have an RIA 5.0, which I believe is superior to the H9.
Great video. I almost picked one up cheap at the initial bankruptcy. I should’ve they have gone way up in value since then. Learned my lesson
Thank you. I really like shooting it. Future opportunities are looking good!
Reminds me of a cop buddy I had back in the 80's....he loved offbeat obscure pistols and actually carried an ASP 9mm off duty....he also spent a chuck on a Bren Ten....after months & months, he finally got his pistol... never found any magazines for it, LOL...but he had the gun.... undoubtedly the most expensive single shot he ever owned
I have a Bren Ten from the 80s, absolutely love it. I have 15 magazines and 2 spare barrels for it as well. Believe that they were made by Mec-Gar? I have not seen any complete magazines for sale anywhere, but I can get replacement magazine springs for the three magazines I use from Wolff.
What an excellent, comprehensive video and wonderful news that it might live again.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! I love and miss shooting mine! I won many local and a few major IDPA matches with mine before it broke. I fixed it, before it broke again, and again. I still own my paperweight, and hope DD offers a gen 2.
Thanks! What broke on yours?
My current IDPA pistol is an RIA 5.0. Awesome gun! Prior to it I was using a CZ Shadow, and before that a custom 9mm 1911.
I was able to grab one during the initial release. I shot mine twice then relegated it the safe queen status. I almost sold it, glad that I didn’t.
Once I got my second I decided I was going to shoot my first. I had already used it in a 3 gun and IDPA competition. Just too much fun not to shoot.
What's the point of keeping a gun like that if you're never going to shoot it?
Cy was my classmate at WP and he and I were in the same major. I always felt like his side of the story in this didn’t get the fair shake it deserved. It took a lot of guts doing what he did and I hope he’s doing well.
Me, too! What he and Lauren did was amazing.
Getting $10 million from your dad to start a company and blowing it all in a few years, and leaving all your vendors holding the bag for hundreds of thousands of dollars is a hell of an accomplishment!
Yes, that was mentioned in video.
@@SinistralRifleman - You sound butt hurt KE.
Way to call it. Shot show 2024. Looks like you were right.
Woohoo!!
I always wanted one.
such a good looking gun
It's a shame about the h9, I thought it was a super cool gun and probably was gonna buy one at the time/back then. I was waiting for there lightweight frame option. But then I started hear rumors of it going bankrupt. Well hopefully in the future they decided or sell the design to put it back in production.
it's coming. Daniel Defense bought it and they have been filing new patents for it.
Exit0Wound - I’m not a super hardcore gun aficionado - however I do have this firearm and love it. I was curious if you know what spare parts would be a smart investment to future-proof the reliability. I appreciate any info since!
Howdy! At hudsongunparts.com you can get strikers, extractors, slide stop, take down levers, trigger safety blade, metal back plate, thumb safety plug, and rear sight.
I picked up the striker and extractors and felt OK with that level of parts.
A couple people have mentioned in previous comments that they had the back plate come off and the striker assembly went flying out the back. No mention of the back plate breaking, though.
I hope this helps. Take care!
Thank you for the info. A guy at my local gun shop mentioned he had to replace 3 recoil springs when he had this firearm also - do you happen to know where I could accumulate a couple of those? @@Exit0Wound
Wolff springs would be the first place I would check.
so I have a question- you mention the guns, you mention the extra parts you have and that you changed out a couple of parts. My question is: why did you change out the parts? Were there problems? Or did you just go ahead and swap out to the upgraded parts (like glocks do with trigger kits all day long?) Also, since owning and shooting your H9's... any other part failures? Issues? I have a line on one and I've always wanted one... but NOT if it's going to sit in it's fancy box. For me (like an H&K P9S), it will be on my hip... at the range... in the wild.... Thanks for your time.
Howdy! I purchased the extra parts just in case something ever broke.
The only parts I have changed were the front sight on one pistol, the grip panels, and the mag bases. All pretty superficial.
The front sight was to correct for the low point of impact on that gun. My second H9 does not have that issue.
The grip panels because of sweaty hands in Texas during shooting competitions. I like the factory grips, but wanted a more aggressive grip when it was hot.
The factory mag plates are plastic. Dropping them on gravel was leading to some scratches. I went with the KE Arms mag plates for a little more mass to aid in dropping mags and durability. I have not had any issues with the factory mag plates.
So far, no issues with any parts failing. No issues with functionality.
Take care!
thanks for this video, as you can see on my own videos posted on youtube I am the only 1 that competes with it, shot my h9 about 12k rounds untill the firing pin broke, sold it but i missed it badly.
Thank you!
I think the hype train built up a lot of steam and the decision makers at the company, in a rush to capitalize on the frenzy, let it leave the station too soon. It's not necessarily wrong to try and strike while the iron is hot but it can lead you to make mistakes that would have been avoided with patience, levelheadedness, and commitment to being best to market, not first to market.
I love the way it looks and the 1911 trigger is awesome. But using MIM parts on an $1,100 pistol, really? If you're paying that kind of money the parts should not be powdered metal, they should be real machined steel.
I think there are a lot of pistols quietly trying to slink away. :)
Kinda like Kimber going from the excellent forged McCormack parts to MIM parts, and then raising their prices a bit. Corporate greed. We have seen the MIM parts fail on many Kimber pistols, that never happened with Chip's parts. Kimber pistols were also superior when their company was in their original shop in Oregon, before they moved to NY and used mass production. I love my older Oregon made custom Kimber. For the price, Charles Daly makes a superior 1911. My favorite deep carry 9mm is a Kimber EVO CS though, it is a superb little pistol!
Where can one find a striker *return (aka reset)* spring? I cannot find them anywhere! 😢
My striker springs are:
0.185" diameter, 2.36" long, wire diameter is 0.025", with 38 coils.
0.1675" diameter, 0.917" long, wire diameter is 0.017", with 11 coils.
I'd try Wolff springs.
@@Exit0Wound THANK YOU! 👍
@@Exit0Wound you sir are a hero. I bought one on initial release, somehow the back plate came off during a range trip and the plunger that held the plate in place launched itself into oblivion. Don't suppose you know where I can find one of those, needed a new striker return spring as well.
Just to make sure I understand. You need the black plastic plunger? I think we can do some 3d printing…
@@Exit0Wound you're the only one that's understood what I was talking about. That would be awesome. It's just been a proverbial paperweight this whole time.
i cant wait until this is relaunched.. maybe they can buy PARA away from stupid Remington
bro, im still sick of plastic guns.. stupid useless awful
It sure is nice to have options!
There are several polymer framed pistols that I love. My Sig P365XL and P365SAS especially. But I do prefer all metal pistols. My primary carry gun is a Kimber EVO CS.