"Listen to me Tarnished, the fingers and Metyr are UNHINGED!" "Dude, have you, uh, listened to yourself lately?" Great job as always! Love the idea that Ymir is lying to us about all this to get what he wants.
quite an amazing lore breakdown my friend, keep it up! I'm glad you acknowledged the fact that the in-game lore cannot be taken at face value (which most lore youtubers usually do), a lot of 'reading between the lines' is required in fromsoft games.
I've been wondering about the whole institution of replacing gods in relation to Metyr and the Greater Will. Why switch gods, especially if it entails so much suffering and disorder? Did all the gods before Marika (we have proof of at least one) fail and so new ones had to be selected/guided? Did they all fail because Metyr's lack of instructions or some other reason? So I came to the conclusion that Metyr's brokenness could be the reason why. She being the herald/mouthpiece while the Elden Beast the power that allows to maintain the ruleset, it was her task to communicate the will of the Greater Will. But if she was broken from the start or from early on, perhaps she had to go with the initial command: select and instruct/guide Empyreans so that one can pair up with a powerful Lord, claim the Elden Ring and establish Order. But when the first god achieved this... there were no new instructions. Thus, Metyr kept resetting, looking for/creating new Empyreans and new Lords, like a broken record. Or maybe this is completely off and for some reason, the GW wants to change gods every now and then (even though it goes against its supposed desire for Order) and Marika's insistence of staying in "office" was indeed heresy. The game certainly seems to imply this at times. But again, that can only be coming from the Fingers and their mother, operating faultily, flying by the seat of their pants. I know this kinda goes against what you are explaining in the video (which is compelling as usual) but maybe it's food for thought.
Well we know that before Marika removed the rune of death, death was a definite thing in the lands between. So maybe the system of empyrians and replacing gods was simply in the case of the previous one dying
i don't think elden beast is testing the power of the tarnished when we fight it. i think the elden beast really want to kill us to claim the great runes we have，because the elden beast can't be sure of the real purpose of the tarnished，remember we can choose the ending，and two of them ends up with destroying the golden order，i think the elden beast fights us to eliminate the possibility of choosing other options，in other words “to save itself”
Oh cool. Is it possible that if that’s true about the Nox and their fingerslayer blade wounding and “breaking” Metyr, that’s the reason we have a two fingers and a three fingers? Metyr was probably supposed to give birth to whole 5 fingered hands as the guidance of the Greater Will, but because they sliced her baby maker we get either a two finger or a three fingered being? Good stuff! Cool video. There’s also the question of Manus Metyr and Manus Celes. Was there another hand/falling star daughter of The Greater Will?
I took it to mean more that she can't give birth to new two fingers at all and now only gives birth to simpleminded fingercreepers. The three fingers are not from metyr, like everything else about the frenzied flame its more of an opposite/mockery of the greater will and golden order.
I also think the three fingers is related to this event. I don't really have proof or evidence but I also have a theory there are more than one 3 fingers just like there are multiple 2 fingers
No the 3 fingers are not from Metyr it says very clearly in her rememberance she is the mother of all 2 fingers and finger creepers. The 3 finger is a seperate entity and simply a vessel from the outer god of the frenzied flame
Wow. I never actually knew you could read the gravestone. That completely recontextualizes everything. I just thought Ymir was a nut. But he was a nutcase made so by tragedy.
There's the ringed finger weapon, which says it was "carved from the ancestor of the fingers". It scales with faith, where as the maternal staff scales with int and arcane. Perhaps what broke was those 2/3 concepts (int, faith, and arcane) becoming separate things. Or at the very least something related to that,.
If the Greater Will is an entity and not just space itself or a concept, then I think it died a long time ago. Metyr and the Fingers read and translate light into messages. If they are far enough away from the Greater Will, they would be seeing the light it gave off in the past while in reality it could have died already. Or perhaps its message changed and it no longer needs them
This is such a good look at the item descriptions, thank you!!! I feel like so many of the same theories get thrown around, it is good to find something new!
I think the Eternal City's High Treason is that they made the Blade but Marika used it on Metyr (those Strands look like being pulled out of Metyrs wound) Ranni used it however many centuries later to kill her Two Fingers.
I don't like the inclusion of the finger creepers being kin to the Two Fingers, they clash visually. Finger creepers look much more like actual hands and fingers, with nails and wounds where the arm would be They don't fit the visual language of the Two Fingers, who are more akin to wood than flesh.
Also, who gave those giant hands rings and so if they were born from Earth? Furthermore, why are fingercreepers clearly broken from wrist section, having bone and flesh inside if they are just alien mushrooms lifeform spawned from ground.
@matiasluukkanen7718 I reckon it's because count ymir is related to the carian royal family and so he gifts finger creepers he can create or metyr has created to the Royal family which they then decorate with glinstone to work as wardens
I love your videos!!! I saw Yuri yesterday and heard that line and wondered about it. I love how you tied ALL of this back to the Nox, the finger slayer blade, and their curse.
I really appreciated how you didn't stray too far away from the facts. Also I hadn't heard before about the number of fingers of Metyr VS the Elden Beast, good eye ! Regarding Ymir's words, "from the start" is rather ambiguous. From the start of what ? Depending on when the betrayal of the Nox occurred (which is largely unspecified afaik), you could consider it is from the fondation of the Golden Order (= Marika's rise to godhood).
literal tin foil hat time. what if metyr can't receive guidance anymore because there's a literal tin foil hat over the area. could the veil over the land of shadow be strong enough to keep even metyr hidden from the greater will?
Fingerslayer blade is made from body of killed god, and is referred as "bloody fetish", and "proof of the high treason against Greater Will" in game text. So that means act of either creating the blade or using it is the sin.
Slight correction. Its suggested The Two Fingers cant get messages from the Greater will. Only Metyr can. Metyr just send the message onward to the two fingers. You made it sound like the Two fingers can receive messages from the greater will the same way as Metyr can so i just corrected that.
I believe Metyr came bearing the Elden Ring. Those threads Marika took from the Eye was Metyr offering to make her the Vessel of the Elden Ring which would give her the power to ascend to god hood The Elden Beast came on a golden star *Bearing* it. Which implies a being within the star came to the lands between whilst on possession of the Elden beast. Metyr has wrinkled flesh matching the hue and appearance of that figure Marika pulls the threads from and the eye She pulled it from looks just like .Metyrs eye surrounded by the wrinkled finger flesh
You are why I love the comment section so much more on these smaller channels. I totally agree with metyr is where marika pulled the strands of gold out of. I think another reason she sealed the shadow lands was to protect her along with her birthplace memorial
@@G4meplus Nox armor description is about the night of the black knives, when scions of the eternal city killed Godwyn. In punishment they were exiled underground. Astel remembrance description is a much later event where the Nox summoned Astel to bring about the age of stars. but Astel killed them all. This happened during the shattering wars. These are two different events. Astel is not an agent of order (greater will). He is a malformed star. A naturalborn of the void. the void and Astel predate the greater will.
Remember, Astel is naturalborn of the Void, and Greater Will lives in "lightless abyss." "The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss." - High Priest Hat. All stars are children of Greater Will.
Didnt the fingers talk to us as the greater wilk when we got our first and second great runes? They said something like “the greater will is pleased…” I remember finding weird because as you said the intro says the greater will abandoned us
Finally someone rational, I agree with you, I'm actually kinda disappointed with the lore community, because the amount of headcanons, misconception and downright ridiculous and bias speculations that go against the lore, and when you disagree, they only say is a "possibility" so they can say is "right" until proved wrong by some "hard evidences", is so annoying, it really discourages any serious study about the real lore of the game. This misconception about Metyr, the Two Fingers and the Greater Will was a big one, I lost the count how many bias players put in their mind that the Two Fingers and Marika never communicated with the Greater Will and were just lying all along, or saying that the Two Fingers used Marika and never really communed with the Greater Will, such bias and wrong interpratations, this all ties to the mindset of mage players and how they see the Greater Will as an "evil tyrant outer god", when we know for a fact that the Greater Will is not an Outer God. All because of Ymir, another bias mage. Btw, I like to point out something, the Fingercreepers seem to be born from this deed commited by the Nox. The Ringed Finger description state it was a "legacy of an ancient act of blasphemy" and an "an ancestor of the Fingercreeper", which ties nicelly with this event of the Nox. This also explain the fact the the Fingercreeper seem to be a lesser being compared to the more normal Two Fingers, that are capable of communion with the Greater Will. Basically, after Metyr was broken and corrupted, she could only give birth to those lesser beings, the Fingercreepers, that is why she only give birth to these type in her fight. Also, did you noticed how the description of the Mother of Fingers described her as the progenitor of the Fingercreeper and the Two Fingers, that we know are many, but say nothing about the Three Fingers? My undestanding it is that the Three Fingers came from the Two Fingers clan, a deformed Two Finger, he went mad and in his madness and pain, created the chaos of the Frenzy Flame, becoming a direct opposer to the concept of order of the Greater Will and his fellow brothers, the Two Fingers. This is also why there is many Two Fingers, but only one Three Fingers, and why the Three Fingers know so much about his former boss and the origin of the universe of the game, a knowledge that they gained directly from the source of all creation, the Greater Will.
Finallyyyy someone mentions the finger slayer blade. Also i think the 3 fingers might be connected to the same event but i dont really have evidence for that
Is it possible that marika herself had the nox make the finger slayer blade? I wonder why a red wolf of radagon is just outside the "lost" city of nocstella? Is this where radagon got the amber egg? Was he created here a long time ago as a mimic tear?
Sick video, but I do think Ymir could be still telling us the truth and when he means Mother unhinged it could be Marika. Also, I think it could be that the Greater Will abandoned Metyr when he sent the Elden Beast. I also think it is possible something else damaged her given the size of the wound. But overall I really like your theories on this, I haven't seen any I like as much I don't think.
Thanks a lot my friend, I don't think the greater will abandoned Metyr when he sent the Elden beast tho. The head of Metyr weapon ash of war provides interesting lore, it states that Metyr was forced to bow and she resented that. In my opinion this is referring to the point in time when the Elden beast was sent and Metyr was forced to bow to it as the Elden beast was superior.
When I saw Ymir in the trailer for the first time, I thought he looked like Oleana Tyrell from GoT because of the headdress, so I assumed he was a woman. After the DLC, it makes much more sense why he dressed like that.
Hmm.... What is the Three Finger though? Midra's failed experiment? The Last Two Finger that were born after the wounding of Metyr? Midra's attempt to resurrect his child? Hmm....
Ymir has a strong Oceiros/Gehrman feel to his character. But also, I think the Greater Will has a lot of similarities to The Elder God of the Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver games (a parasite Elder being strongly resembling Gnosticism with its "wheel of fate"). Essentially, it is a meddling God, like all the others, who happens to have a lot of influence. When it is done with you, it abandons you. Look at Metyr, its own "daughter", Placidusax, Marika. All of them are pawns/God-slaves to the influence of the Greater Will, a meddling God. It would make sense why St. Trina understood that Godhood was a prison.
Metyr is most likely Manus Celes, the divine hand that has its church above Liurnia. I would assume the Nox didn’t just attack Metyr, but they killed her outright, which is why she is in the land of the dead. The Fingerslayer Blade isn’t called The Fingerwounder Blade, after all. But Metyr’s children - the Fingers, weren’t all slain and the Nox were banished to the underhround. I would assume it wasn’t just The Greater Will’s vengeful wrath, but that slaying Metyr triggered a war. It’s also possible that the reason why The Nox civilizations are underground is their discovery of silver tears and how to create life outside of the Great Tree, which is the sin that sent them down. Silver tears are actually mercury, and mercury is rather famous for settling at the bottom of things. Either way, when Metyr died, her link with the Greater Will was severed, which also meant her children’s link was also severed.
"which also meant her children’s link was also severed." Wrong, the video already explained that this is not the case, the Two Fingers still mainted communion with the Greater Will, they have nothing to do with their mother, she was the one broken, not them. There many other hints from the game that this mentality is completely wrong, again, just going by the bias and distorted perception of Ymir and the mage players community.
@@t6y6fihu8hy9jjuhi it is highly possible that The Roundtable Hold doesn't exist in the same time in history as the rest of the game. It seems hard to know. There are the only 2 living two fingers that we see, and all they do is repeat the same words, over and over, until one tarnished does something that goes against the Two Fingers' precepts. Then they go silent, looking for additional guidance, but there's nothing to suggest they had any recent guidence to begin with. If it would take 10,000 years for them to receive a new message, that woulr mean the last time they received a message was 10,000 years ago, you know
I saw it yes, but if you put the 2 images side by side you will notice there is no wound on the armor. I mean the wound sits were Metyr womb is but it looks really gruesome and split vertically, it's also her weakpoint like the crack on the Elden beast.
In my opinion it's later, the Nox and Marika were allied hence the word "traitors" was used. Also the unnamed eternal city location implies it was once a part of the capital.
Makes sense and then we got Placidusax tending to the Bayle rebellion. I wonder if Dragonkin soldiers came about during that time. Also doesn't Yura say he learned a trick "to sever the finger" and we have finger sever tools to leave worlds. Hmmmmm
so, who are all the other gravestones? Are they all failed attempt from Ymir or creating a son ? The Numen had a problem with children not being born, that's why they created the silver tears.
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God the smaller channels drop such banger videos
They don't just regurgitate item descriptions luckily
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it ❤️
@@G4meplus thank you! Also could the injury on metyr be what marika pulled the golden thing out of?
This explains a lot. You make some great connections. Having the nox trying to kill Metyr fits so well.
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it ❤️
"Listen to me Tarnished, the fingers and Metyr are UNHINGED!"
"Dude, have you, uh, listened to yourself lately?"
Great job as always! Love the idea that Ymir is lying to us about all this to get what he wants.
quite an amazing lore breakdown my friend, keep it up! I'm glad you acknowledged the fact that the in-game lore cannot be taken at face value (which most lore youtubers usually do), a lot of 'reading between the lines' is required in fromsoft games.
I've been wondering about the whole institution of replacing gods in relation to Metyr and the Greater Will. Why switch gods, especially if it entails so much suffering and disorder? Did all the gods before Marika (we have proof of at least one) fail and so new ones had to be selected/guided? Did they all fail because Metyr's lack of instructions or some other reason?
So I came to the conclusion that Metyr's brokenness could be the reason why. She being the herald/mouthpiece while the Elden Beast the power that allows to maintain the ruleset, it was her task to communicate the will of the Greater Will. But if she was broken from the start or from early on, perhaps she had to go with the initial command: select and instruct/guide Empyreans so that one can pair up with a powerful Lord, claim the Elden Ring and establish Order. But when the first god achieved this... there were no new instructions. Thus, Metyr kept resetting, looking for/creating new Empyreans and new Lords, like a broken record.
Or maybe this is completely off and for some reason, the GW wants to change gods every now and then (even though it goes against its supposed desire for Order) and Marika's insistence of staying in "office" was indeed heresy. The game certainly seems to imply this at times. But again, that can only be coming from the Fingers and their mother, operating faultily, flying by the seat of their pants.
I know this kinda goes against what you are explaining in the video (which is compelling as usual) but maybe it's food for thought.
indeed that is what makes most sense
This is a really interesting reason of why.... I like it.
Well we know that before Marika removed the rune of death, death was a definite thing in the lands between. So maybe the system of empyrians and replacing gods was simply in the case of the previous one dying
i don't think elden beast is testing the power of the tarnished when we fight it.
i think the elden beast really want to kill us to claim the great runes we have，because the elden beast can't be sure of the real purpose of the tarnished，remember we can choose the ending，and two of them ends up with destroying the golden order，i think the elden beast fights us to eliminate the possibility of choosing other options，in other words “to save itself”
In short, its intelligence is that of an animal, fight to survive and live
Oh cool. Is it possible that if that’s true about the Nox and their fingerslayer blade wounding and “breaking” Metyr, that’s the reason we have a two fingers and a three fingers? Metyr was probably supposed to give birth to whole 5 fingered hands as the guidance of the Greater Will, but because they sliced her baby maker we get either a two finger or a three fingered being? Good stuff! Cool video. There’s also the question of Manus Metyr and Manus Celes. Was there another hand/falling star daughter of The Greater Will?
I took it to mean more that she can't give birth to new two fingers at all and now only gives birth to simpleminded fingercreepers.
The three fingers are not from metyr, like everything else about the frenzied flame its more of an opposite/mockery of the greater will and golden order.
I also think the three fingers is related to this event. I don't really have proof or evidence but I also have a theory there are more than one 3 fingers just like there are multiple 2 fingers
No the 3 fingers are not from Metyr it says very clearly in her rememberance she is the mother of all 2 fingers and finger creepers. The 3 finger is a seperate entity and simply a vessel from the outer god of the frenzied flame
Wow. I never actually knew you could read the gravestone. That completely recontextualizes everything. I just thought Ymir was a nut. But he was a nutcase made so by tragedy.
There's the ringed finger weapon, which says it was "carved from the ancestor of the fingers".
It scales with faith, where as the maternal staff scales with int and arcane. Perhaps what broke was those 2/3 concepts (int, faith, and arcane) becoming separate things. Or at the very least something related to that,.
Really interesting take.
The ringed finger doesn't scale with faith though
@@SoI_Badguy You're right it doesn't. Huh, coulda sworn it did.
I still believe it was cut from Metyr tho.
If the Greater Will is an entity and not just space itself or a concept, then I think it died a long time ago.
Metyr and the Fingers read and translate light into messages. If they are far enough away from the Greater Will, they would be seeing the light it gave off in the past while in reality it could have died already.
Or perhaps its message changed and it no longer needs them
This is such a good look at the item descriptions, thank you!!! I feel like so many of the same theories get thrown around, it is good to find something new!
I think the Eternal City's High Treason is that they made the Blade but Marika used it on Metyr (those Strands look like being pulled out of Metyrs wound)
Ranni used it however many centuries later to kill her Two Fingers.
Also, the Elden Ring is merged in marika. She melded with it. The beast can’t out right kill her, just stop her from doing anything else.
……. Dude. I started a thread on reddit that the elden beast is manifested directly in radagon.
I don't like the inclusion of the finger creepers being kin to the Two Fingers, they clash visually. Finger creepers look much more like actual hands and fingers, with nails and wounds where the arm would be
They don't fit the visual language of the Two Fingers, who are more akin to wood than flesh.
Also, who gave those giant hands rings and so if they were born from Earth? Furthermore, why are fingercreepers clearly broken from wrist section, having bone and flesh inside if they are just alien mushrooms lifeform spawned from ground.
@matiasluukkanen7718 I reckon it's because count ymir is related to the carian royal family and so he gifts finger creepers he can create or metyr has created to the Royal family which they then decorate with glinstone to work as wardens
Videos like this are why I always come back to this channel. Keep it up!
I love your videos!!! I saw Yuri yesterday and heard that line and wondered about it. I love how you tied ALL of this back to the Nox, the finger slayer blade, and their curse.
Thanks a lot, glad you enjoy them ❤️
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Given how Metyr shoots Finger Creepers out of her “gash” and is called the Mother of Fingers, I think it’s probably just her vaj
As i said, we know that's her birthing canal but it's wounded.
I really appreciated how you didn't stray too far away from the facts.
Also I hadn't heard before about the number of fingers of Metyr VS the Elden Beast, good eye !
Regarding Ymir's words, "from the start" is rather ambiguous. From the start of what ? Depending on when the betrayal of the Nox occurred (which is largely unspecified afaik), you could consider it is from the fondation of the Golden Order (= Marika's rise to godhood).
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Once again, great job making connections. You put thinks together or break things down in ways i dont see others doing.
literal tin foil hat time.
what if metyr can't receive guidance anymore because there's a literal tin foil hat over the area. could the veil over the land of shadow be strong enough to keep even metyr hidden from the greater will?
That's a good possibility, but tbh when i though about this i felt the Greater will was just too strong to be affected by the veil.
Ymir has my favorite VA in the whole game
The moment he goes totally crazy is truly a masterpiece of voice acting.
The high treason was the nox tried to make saints with quick silver. I think the finger slayer blade was in response to that banishment.
Finger slayer blade is "blood drenched" though, so it's been used for _something_ supposedly
Fingerslayer blade is made from body of killed god, and is referred as "bloody fetish", and "proof of the high treason against Greater Will" in game text.
So that means act of either creating the blade or using it is the sin.
It's also curious how fingerslayer blade resembles the radagon turned into sword. I wonder who it may have been that have been turned into fs blade
Slight correction. Its suggested The Two Fingers cant get messages from the Greater will. Only Metyr can. Metyr just send the message onward to the two fingers.
You made it sound like the Two fingers can receive messages from the greater will the same way as Metyr can so i just corrected that.
I believe Metyr came bearing the Elden Ring.
Those threads Marika took from the Eye was Metyr offering to make her the Vessel of the Elden Ring which would give her the power to ascend to god hood
The Elden Beast came on a golden star *Bearing* it. Which implies a being within the star came to the lands between whilst on possession of the Elden beast.
Metyr has wrinkled flesh matching the hue and appearance of that figure Marika pulls the threads from and the eye She pulled it from looks just like .Metyrs eye surrounded by the wrinkled finger flesh
Yeah and it also looks like those eggs with finger mimics around her arena too
You are why I love the comment section so much more on these smaller channels. I totally agree with metyr is where marika pulled the strands of gold out of. I think another reason she sealed the shadow lands was to protect her along with her birthplace memorial
Why would you think Astel was sent by the greater will?
Putting Astel remembrance description with the nox armor description pretty much seals the deal.
@@G4meplus Nox armor description is about the night of the black knives, when scions of the eternal city killed Godwyn. In punishment they were exiled underground.
Astel remembrance description is a much later event where the Nox summoned Astel to bring about the age of stars. but Astel killed them all. This happened during the shattering wars.
These are two different events. Astel is not an agent of order (greater will). He is a malformed star. A naturalborn of the void. the void and Astel predate the greater will.
@@armandaneshjoo i saw somewhere naturalborn means bastard, or that somehow Astel is a bastard star/child of the GW
@@FeelTehPOWA Void, Astel, and all other stars are older than the one great and the greater will.
Remember, Astel is naturalborn of the Void, and Greater Will lives in "lightless abyss."
"The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss."
- High Priest Hat.
All stars are children of Greater Will.
Didnt the fingers talk to us as the greater wilk when we got our first and second great runes? They said something like “the greater will is pleased…”
I remember finding weird because as you said the intro says the greater will abandoned us
The fingers are some lyin mofos
Everyone is coping real hard.
Yeah, 50 things and ymir tell is they've been faking it
I am under the impression that she said "The fingers are pleased" but i will check again.
Finally someone rational, I agree with you, I'm actually kinda disappointed with the lore community, because the amount of headcanons, misconception and downright ridiculous and bias speculations that go against the lore, and when you disagree, they only say is a "possibility" so they can say is "right" until proved wrong by some "hard evidences", is so annoying, it really discourages any serious study about the real lore of the game.
This misconception about Metyr, the Two Fingers and the Greater Will was a big one, I lost the count how many bias players put in their mind that the Two Fingers and Marika never communicated with the Greater Will and were just lying all along, or saying that the Two Fingers used Marika and never really communed with the Greater Will, such bias and wrong interpratations, this all ties to the mindset of mage players and how they see the Greater Will as an "evil tyrant outer god", when we know for a fact that the Greater Will is not an Outer God. All because of Ymir, another bias mage.
Btw, I like to point out something, the Fingercreepers seem to be born from this deed commited by the Nox. The Ringed Finger description state it was a "legacy of an ancient act of blasphemy" and an "an ancestor of the Fingercreeper", which ties nicelly with this event of the Nox. This also explain the fact the the Fingercreeper seem to be a lesser being compared to the more normal Two Fingers, that are capable of communion with the Greater Will. Basically, after Metyr was broken and corrupted, she could only give birth to those lesser beings, the Fingercreepers, that is why she only give birth to these type in her fight.
Also, did you noticed how the description of the Mother of Fingers described her as the progenitor of the Fingercreeper and the Two Fingers, that we know are many, but say nothing about the Three Fingers? My undestanding it is that the Three Fingers came from the Two Fingers clan, a deformed Two Finger, he went mad and in his madness and pain, created the chaos of the Frenzy Flame, becoming a direct opposer to the concept of order of the Greater Will and his fellow brothers, the Two Fingers.
This is also why there is many Two Fingers, but only one Three Fingers, and why the Three Fingers know so much about his former boss and the origin of the universe of the game, a knowledge that they gained directly from the source of all creation, the Greater Will.
Finallyyyy someone mentions the finger slayer blade.
Also i think the 3 fingers might be connected to the same event but i dont really have evidence for that
Is it possible that marika herself had the nox make the finger slayer blade? I wonder why a red wolf of radagon is just outside the "lost" city of nocstella? Is this where radagon got the amber egg? Was he created here a long time ago as a mimic tear?
Always finding the clues we don’t know that’s why I love you bro
Thanks a lot my friend ❤️
Sick video, but I do think Ymir could be still telling us the truth and when he means Mother unhinged it could be Marika. Also, I think it could be that the Greater Will abandoned Metyr when he sent the Elden Beast. I also think it is possible something else damaged her given the size of the wound. But overall I really like your theories on this, I haven't seen any I like as much I don't think.
Thanks a lot my friend, I don't think the greater will abandoned Metyr when he sent the Elden beast tho.
The head of Metyr weapon ash of war provides interesting lore, it states that Metyr was forced to bow and she resented that. In my opinion this is referring to the point in time when the Elden beast was sent and Metyr was forced to bow to it as the Elden beast was superior.
@G4meplus Thank you too. I never caught that description, I think you may be right it would fit with the resentment very well.
Solid video. I subscribe
Is it just me or does the Fingerslayer blade look a LOT like the Sacred Relic sword? IE it looks like a person turned into a sword? 4:10
In my opinion it's made from a corpse of a former god just like Radagon was turned into the sacred relic sword.
The greater will abandoned the demigod children.
I like the video tho! Its a really good explanation ❤
When I saw Ymir in the trailer for the first time, I thought he looked like Oleana Tyrell from GoT because of the headdress, so I assumed he was a woman. After the DLC, it makes much more sense why he dressed like that.
this answers alot of questions. nice video
Hmm.... What is the Three Finger though? Midra's failed experiment? The Last Two Finger that were born after the wounding of Metyr? Midra's attempt to resurrect his child?
Hmm....
Ymir has a strong Oceiros/Gehrman feel to his character.
But also, I think the Greater Will has a lot of similarities to The Elder God of the Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver games (a parasite Elder being strongly resembling Gnosticism with its "wheel of fate"). Essentially, it is a meddling God, like all the others, who happens to have a lot of influence. When it is done with you, it abandons you. Look at Metyr, its own "daughter", Placidusax, Marika. All of them are pawns/God-slaves to the influence of the Greater Will, a meddling God. It would make sense why St. Trina understood that Godhood was a prison.
Metyr is most likely Manus Celes, the divine hand that has its church above Liurnia. I would assume the Nox didn’t just attack Metyr, but they killed her outright, which is why she is in the land of the dead. The Fingerslayer Blade isn’t called The Fingerwounder Blade, after all. But Metyr’s children - the Fingers, weren’t all slain and the Nox were banished to the underhround. I would assume it wasn’t just The Greater Will’s vengeful wrath, but that slaying Metyr triggered a war.
It’s also possible that the reason why The Nox civilizations are underground is their discovery of silver tears and how to create life outside of the Great Tree, which is the sin that sent them down. Silver tears are actually mercury, and mercury is rather famous for settling at the bottom of things.
Either way, when Metyr died, her link with the Greater Will was severed, which also meant her children’s link was also severed.
"which also meant her children’s link was also severed."
Wrong, the video already explained that this is not the case, the Two Fingers still mainted communion with the Greater Will, they have nothing to do with their mother, she was the one broken, not them.
There many other hints from the game that this mentality is completely wrong, again, just going by the bias and distorted perception of Ymir and the mage players community.
@@t6y6fihu8hy9jjuhi it is highly possible that The Roundtable Hold doesn't exist in the same time in history as the rest of the game. It seems hard to know. There are the only 2 living two fingers that we see, and all they do is repeat the same words, over and over, until one tarnished does something that goes against the Two Fingers' precepts. Then they go silent, looking for additional guidance, but there's nothing to suggest they had any recent guidence to begin with.
If it would take 10,000 years for them to receive a new message, that woulr mean the last time they received a message was 10,000 years ago, you know
They need an open sky. Merika plunged the lands of death into shadow. Like the nox
Thank you for talikng bout this topic nobody else had yet.
Thanks a lot, glad you liked it ❤️
Great analysis!
I don't like fingers.
How’d you type this then?
How do you feel about rusty spoons?
Ymir and Yharnam should date turns out they got a lot in common 🤷♂️
But doesnt Ymir say that Marika was misguided from the start? That she wasnt guided by the GW?
He does but as i explained it's probably to achieve his own agenda.
Good stuff !
Is that a cut tho?emyrs robe can be altered and it has that gash as well.looks to me that it was her birth canal
I saw it yes, but if you put the 2 images side by side you will notice there is no wound on the armor. I mean the wound sits were Metyr womb is but it looks really gruesome and split vertically, it's also her weakpoint like the crack on the Elden beast.
Of this is accurate then would it mean that the nox attack happened before Marika was guided by the 2 fingers?
In my opinion it's later, the Nox and Marika were allied hence the word "traitors" was used.
Also the unnamed eternal city location implies it was once a part of the capital.
8:34 is it just me, or does the head of the elden beast look like "1 finger"?
I BEEN SAYINGH THIS!!! TWO FINGERS IS ORDER AND THREE IS CHAOS, TOGETHER THEYRE 5!! THE NOX SPLIT THE FINGERS IN REBELLION AGAINST THE GREATER WILL
Makes sense and then we got Placidusax tending to the Bayle rebellion. I wonder if Dragonkin soldiers came about during that time.
Also doesn't Yura say he learned a trick "to sever the finger" and we have finger sever tools to leave worlds. Hmmmmm
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just saying, but the elden beast seems to be emerging out of darkness/shadows
True.
so, who are all the other gravestones? Are they all failed attempt from Ymir or creating a son ? The Numen had a problem with children not being born, that's why they created the silver tears.
It's a good possibility, but they may be just normal gravestones.
Metyr forgot to pay for her bills thats why the Greater Will cut her internet.
Radagon is the elden beast
Totally my same idea
Too many fingers in this DLC
100% you're from Iran, I catch you
No, try again.
Anyone get evangelion, Adam and Eve vibes from metyr and the Elden beast?