2021 Honda PCX 125 Lessons Learned Review | The Pros and cons
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- 2021 Honda PCX 125 Lessons Learned Review | The Pros and cons
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I've been riding bikes for 50 years and for the last 5 also a Forza 300, best buy I ever made. I know a few people in their 70s who have the Forza 125, all think it is a brilliant scooter that helps keep them on two wheels. Well done Honda.
I’ve ridden motorcycles since 1967 and got a Vespa scooter as a third bike a few years ago. I love the light weight and carrying capacity. It has been a great commuter bike and grocery getter. Great fun and I find that I ride it more than I expected. Thanks Flyer.
I've owned two of these the last one did 15k miles in a year of ownership I used it on motorways, A roads, duel carriageways everything, it was ridden infinitely more than my CBR600F, and CRF250L. Traded it for a NC750, I miss it so much it's imperative I get another. Great review thanks for the reminder of what I'm missing.
My pleasure!
Love that you review small bikes.
A ringing endorsement! Cracking stuff as always 👍
This the bike that got me into motorcycling about 10 years ago. It was quality back then...fantastic little thing.
What are you riding now?
Great review again thank you, I will be placing an order for one late December for 1st March registrations, it was a toss up between the Nmax and the PCX but the extra storage and better dash and style does it for me! Thanks again for all your reviews.
Glad I could help!
I've just got this after my 5 year old PCX was unfortunately destroyed while awaiting MOT, I loved my old PCX but this is a cut above, it's absolutely beautiful to ride in every way, cannot wait to take it up north in the summer for a Highland jaunt
Cool!
Thanks for this excellent review. I appreciate your fearless enthusiasm. Too many reviewers feel compelled to not like anything and their reviews are fault-finding exercises, so nothing sounds very good. The "cons" you noted -- limited storage and wind protection -- are important for a prospective buyer to know about. But you did not allow them to stop you from loving an excellent bike.
It is a great bike….perfect town transport!
I started off with scooters back in the sixties, there wasn’t any weather protection on them then.
This is simply great value though, similar money to an electric push bike but nearly 5x as fast and all that storage space. Great reviews Andy.
Back in '81 I got a Vespa 200. Big engine, lots of gears, and a huge windshield. It felt like I was in the very lap of luxury.
Thank you for the awesome review my friend. 🙏🏽
My pleasure!
I'm in the States and my wife had a PCX-150 about eight years ago. Lovely bike, we loved it - it was much fun!
Great to hear!
Each to their own with scooters, had a 100cc Peugeot years back, so much fun on the lanes of Devon, even rode it up the M5 when I moved to Bristol with all my possessions strapped to the back! Seriously thinking of a maxi scoot for when the office reopens 👍🏻
2 stroke days!!!
I started riding on a PCX had it for 3years commuting to work and back ,what an awesome bike like you said cheap to run cheap tax and easy to work on.A bigger after market screen helped alot in the bad weather it was fun to ride and never let me down. After gaining riding experience i moved on to the Faorza 125 its a bit bigger in size but you can't through it about like a PCX. Cheers ride safe.
Thanks for sharing and for watching!
Fantastic review 👏
Thanks for another fun video. I wish I'd had one of these when I was still commuting in Washington, DC. Many places in the DC area, one can park a scooter in a bicycle parking area, making it even better. (Parking in DC is horribly expensive.) Thanks again.
If scooters could lane filter and park like bicycles in NA like they can the rest of the world, they'd be very popular and traffic would improve.
Good review, i've got a Honda Forza 125 for commuting on and its brill, 130 mpg, and i can get my full face helmet under the seat, and it also has a adjustable screen, but costs more than the pcx.
I have a gs 1200 but a considering getting one just for the simplicity.
Thank you for the review 🙏
My pleasure
Great review and this bike is very well priced. A top of the range Raleigh e-bike will cost you £2800, so this machine offers superb value! I run a Honda Forza 350 which I'm very pleased with but the PCX is ideal for shorter runs and commuting .. you can see why Honda sell so many of them!
I'm shocked that it will do 60mph. Looks like I could settle for that after I'm finished with the 'big' bikes. Awesome. Thanks for the review.
No problem 👍
Great review!!!
Brilliant things I have had 2 of them for my work commute, now moved onto the Forza 300 and with a little more power equally as good for the job 👍
I would love to ride a scooter, never had the opportunity, Thanks for showing. 👍
That bike has it all, I even like the colour. Good review Andy.
Cheers Ken....
Nice review. I loved my SH125 and SH300 scooters I owned...really got me back into biking on a regular basis whereas my VFR often sat in the garage.
Now have a Forza 750 in my collection. Quite a lot heavier and faster but still very easy to just get on and ride.
I'm looking at the sh350 and the Piaggio bv350 or maybe the new 400i. The piaggio is better looking.
I’m a real scooter convert; recently bought my 1st one; a BMW C400GT. In 20-odd years of riding & it’s a revelation. The only thing I’m not looking forward to is BMW’s servicing costs 🤦🏻♂️
Brilliant, what a great piece of kit cheers Andy 🛵👍
Thanks for watching Terry!
I totally agree with you about that screen, it forces air straight into your chest. I sold mine the day my V5 arrived in the post. Never again...
Having brought a second-hand PCX myself to get back into riding bikes again I must say I totally agree with you. Eventually traded mine in for a bigger new bike and now I wish I had kept it as a town bike, fun brilliant little performer in the town traffic. P.S My PCX came with a Honda larger front screen that the previous owner had brought so it was better in the rain.
Great Video! Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure!
I've got a 2013 PCX, absolutely bulletproof as a daily commute. 2021 Street Triple for the sunny days
Sounds good to me!
Usual thorough review.
Good to see you covering a few small capacity scooters. I'm a big fan, having ridden my son's Honda Forza 125 and Yamaha Nmax. I've also owned a couple of modern Vespa Scooters (200 and 300cc) and absolutely loved them. They make perfect sense for a lot of transport requirements and are immensely fun to ride. Although I'm in a 1200cc Triumph now, I would happily own another scooter. Ever considered reviewing one of the 300cc Vespa models?
I have a Triumph Speed Twin AND a Vespa 250 GT -- love them both.
I have a GS 1250 & a Piaggio BV 350 scooter. The BV is much more adept and easier to handle in urban settings. 50 miles and your butt is on fire though.
I've currently got a cb125f will soon be upgrading to a CBR500R your review helped me decide
Glad to help Jamie!
I've got the predecessor to the PCX, the Pantheon, and it just keeps going and going. It's 15 years old and due an MOT in the next week or so, I have no doubts about whether it will pass. In nearly four years of owning it it has needed a starter motor and that's all. I call it my Sherpa because of the amount of stuff I can get under the seat and in the top box.
Brilliant....
I remember those, good to hear they last!
That’s dope. Many of these anti-scooter motorcycle elitists out there probably have significantly less actual saddle time than you. That’s what it’s all about.
The pantheon is a brilliant scooter. Especially because it's at the maximum CBT hp of just under 15hp
just got a 2018 model with 4000 miles and I have to say I am really enjoying it, a lot of fun and I cant believe how stable this is to ride at walking pace in traffic. My only real gripe is the finish is a bit poor, I have plastered the center and side stands with hammerite straight to rust paint which makes them look a lot better, I also did the underside of the frame with it as well to give it some protection from the British weather, the forks stanchions are another area that need a bit of tlc to stop the pitting.
How much did you pay?
I bought a PCX 160 about 3 month ago and I can say this scooter is brilliant, smooth ride, awesome stability and low fuel consumption
160 pcx which country is that ? You brought it in?
@@jamescooper6263
I bought in Iran, I think its made in Indonesia
@@TheMajidfarahani yep, that's our own made; maybe Thai make those too
Hi Andy,did you get a chance,to put Mrs F on the back,and if so how was it? BTW loving your work 👍
Hi love your videos I have a pcx125 2010 model great around town but I find speedo is about 8k out so if you check it. With phone gps it’s a great bike I ride it nearly every day
Thanks Andy, great review etc. I'm currently driving an sh125, and considering the pcx. Apart from a couple of negatives, no doubt a great scooter. Athough I think the chrome handlebars with the exposed wiring, could be tidied up. The Yamaha n max and recently launched Suzuki burgman ex, have a neater set up. If i go for a pcx i'll put a top box on, to accommodate a helmet. 🤔
I had a 2010 pcx which had old school headlamp bulbs, never once used high beam, swopped for a new 2017 pcx witch had an LED headlamp and it was rubbish, bordering on dangerous especially when cornering the beam pattern and spread was poor, loved the bike though great for nipping round town, loads of confidence in the wet with such a low centre of gravity
Yes, yes, yes, do a tour on it.
I’ve never heard of a PCX, will have to look them up.
I rented a PCX150 [ the new one is a 160+hybrid! woohoo ] recently for 2 weeks. Everything you say is true, the build and ride quality are truly superb. At a bit over six feet tall, I found the seating position a bit cramped. If I owned one I'd need to adjust the reach. The keyless ignition/remote is maybe good in an urban environment, but here on a tropical island a real security issue when you want to take a swim. Usually I loop my bike key through the pocket lanyard on my boardshorts... Not sure how the budgie smuggler riders get on either way!
Nice one Bob!
We feel your pain Bob 😂
Placed an order for mine, should be with me at the end of February according to my local Honda dealer. Those two negatives mentions can be solved by usage of a top box and an extended windscreen which Honda sell or you can buy aftermarket parts. I've seen people mention that placing their helmet upside down sometimes helps with storing their helmet under the seat with some models.
Great machine though - enjoy your new ride!
Looks like the spiritual successor to my old gilera runner 125. Sheer fun. :)
It looks like it’s been designed for a screen. That would certainly help with the wind blast.
My first 125 getting it Monday looking forward to it
2018 model
Enjoy! Great bike…
I have a Honda Forza 300cc scooter and I really like it. It weighs a lot more at 400 lbs but it has bigger tires for better grip. The new Forza 350 has the electric windscreen.......Sal : )
Indicator lights on the dash are good indeed. Much harder to forget they’ve been left on!
Exactly!
Looks like an excellent little bike, front end looks like the head of one of those creatures from the Alien movie franchise. BMW pulled out in front of me when I have my Peugeot elyseo 100cc 2 stroke. The Honda looks like a giant step up in comfort, safety and convenience (no 2 stroke oil can under the seat). Might pick one up for fun and maybe try doordash until it's paid for itself.
When are you going to do a vid on the Forza 350/750 ? I own the 350 and I love it. Would look forward to your ride/comments on them 👍
Will see what I can do!
Thanks. Yes and since you would recommend it to the House perhaps you could mention the non availability of group insurance for a sole rider of a bike collection and all their advantages.
Not sure I follow Bob??
You can quite easily fit a topbox in which to secure your helmet enabling the storage under the seat to accommodate jacket and pants, first aid kit and document wallet.
Very true - very practical machine this….
@@TheMissendenFlyer I do think that for predominantly city riding they are a great and fun bike to get around on. It handled going up some reasonably steep streets in the hill suburbs, but I also took it down the motorway, went to pull out from behind a HGV to overtake and with the headwind, I was actually slowed down and had to tuck back in. The return trip with the wind behind was 15kmph faster.
I was very torn between this and 2021 nmax .
Did go for nmax and love it very similar in specs, love to scoot a boot the place.👍👍👍
Out of interest why did you go for the nmax?
@@TheMissendenFlyer abs on two disc brakes.
Two year warranty not sure what Honda is.
Nmax great wee bike, as is Honda.
Maybe worth doing comparison of the two.
Regards Jim
Best scooter iv ever owned back in 2001 was the honda nes 125 i loved it that much i ended up buying 4 believe it or not i had 2 silver and 2 blue i bought them at different times but ye had 4 at one point
Scooters like this are perfect city cruisers. I could see owning both a motorcycle and a scooter.
You and me both!
I just bought one and I luv her… great for
tutaling around town… as well no thinks a scooter 🤣🎉
Good aren’t they…
The only downer I can see is them modern plastic midi & maxi styled scooters is all the plastic ,when you have to remove it .It’s a right pain .I have a similar one made by Malaguti with a Yamaha mirranelli engine in cost me £ 2,899 •00 about 21 years ago ,Even then it would do 75 mph down a slight incline on clock .with two valve 12•2 hp LC engine .I got it to use as a runabout & motorised shopping trolly ,as it had a massive under seat capacity ( 2 helmets ). Ideal for beer & drive thru burger runs .Of course time has moved on & the PCX is more up to date tech wise & much better fuel economy for its performance .I find these type of scooters very comfortable to the point where you can easily nod off asleep .It’s a Honda say no more ,it will run forever with regular oil changes.👍
I have the honda foza 125 is amazing so much more room than the pcx but the pcx is a good bike as well
Most full face helmets will fit but check yours out at the dealership if it’s important to you. I have an XL Shoei full face helmet and it fits fine.
Living in Birmingham, mine was more expensive to insure than my Shadow 1100! Reason being that they are easy to steal, as mine was! Other than that it was an excellent commuter and one that I would recommend.
Sorry to hear that Haxan 666!
Best scoot ever. I am sold mine to get Forza 350 2021 and I want to own PCX 125 again.
It’d be good to check out the Yamaha NMax as a comparison.
Great review 👍 I couldn't agree with you more about the PCX. Probably one of the best daily commuters around. Plus your only 2 negatives can be easily resolved... get a top case for your helmet & add a taller windscreen. Easy Peasy. No more negatives. 😂 I rode a PCX a lot when I lived in Asia. Now that I'm back in the States, I really miss it... So I decided to buy one! They aren't as plentiful here as they are in Asia & Europe tho. Hard to find a dealer that actually has one in the showroom. 🤔 I even get the feeling they may discontinue the PCX in the US. 😱 They didn't even announce a 2024 model here yet! Uh oh. So I am gonna try & nab a 2023 or 2022 model as quickly as I can find one. I prefer the white color PCX so hopefully the 2022. 🤞
Great practical machines aren’t they….
I have the 125cc pcx in srilanka and it's such a great bike, I have raced with 150cc clutch bikes like the Yamaha fz and have beat it without a sweat
Lol
Can't wait to get mine next month, I put a deposit on the PCX 150.
Congratulations!
Gday mate as you probably well know these are made in thailand ,also one of the most popular scooters there as well, my brother in law has the 150 and he is lets say a big boy . My soft spot goes to the old forza 300 not the new one which they shaved a load of bulk off of i liked the fat shape of the old one . They are a lovely scooter and for bangkok traffic ideal commuter in the city as you say light as but there are certain roads they cannot go on because of the speed they can atain anyway good review on a nifty little scoot .
Cheers Crispernator!
I like scooters, have had a couple through the years. I just don't have room for yet another 2-wheeler right now.
Tell me about it Bill!
Thanks for reviewing the PCX, I'm trying to choose between this and the NMAX. I prefer the look of the NMAX, the dash has far more information on it's less trendy but more readable LCD and the styling looks more modern. The NMAX also seems to be roomier for tall guys like me. The fact that Honda, unlike Yamaha, have chosen to fit a drum on the rear, so no rear ABS or linked braking at all, is disappointing, especially when in Thailand they choose to fit the bike with a disc. All that said I see quite a few reports of early engine wear (oil consumption) on the NMAX which may well be a deal breaker. In short the Honda engine in the NMAX chassis would be perfect! Thanks again.
I thought about getting a scooter all my life. After watching your review, I ordered a red Honda PCX 125 just like the one you have. Can't wait for it, it should be delivered in July 2022. If I may ask, could you suggest a good quality full face helmet?
I’m a fan of the HJC RPhA 11
I would get one of these of an nmax to bob around on but I will always be a fair weather rider,so it would be parked up for 3 months over winter. On a motorcycle I could bump start it when I come to ride it...but with these stop start keyless auto bikes I dont think it would be that simple. And I couldn't be assed taking it apart just to get to the battery.
Lucky old me! 60 years on two wheels only came to the pcx 2017 after hip replacement. Now have 2019 model. Absolute new lease of life, my wealthy mate swapped his street triple for a 125 forza and we are lucky enough to live at the southern end of the Derbyshire Dale's so 100 mile days out on the lovely A and B roads are the norm, priceless.
My only gripe is with Honda uk is, my 2017 bike had notchy headstock bearings at 1 Yr old, done under warranty. Strangely my 2019 has the same problem on the two year service (both services done late due to covid delays) claim rejected, not happy
Oh dear, that's a poor show....sorry to hear that...
I have also found Honda UK and Honda Europe to be poor, watch out for centre stands on PCX and Forza's. £150+ every 2 years to replace.
@@mc127 I was aware of the stand thing Mike, always given a good clean and lube. I had plans to get a new pcx next spring but don't think they deserve my cash!
Good news for scooter riders in Canada🇨🇦 Yamaha are bringing the Yamaha SMax 300 here in 2022 😃
Hi nice review as usual
Is it better than Yamaha nmax 155cc???
Cheers
I’ve not ridden it so can’t say! Sorry….
Is this a bike that Mrs. Flyer would like over a more traditional motorcycle? Sounds like an addendum video with her input would be a natural in this case. Kill three birds with one stone. Ladies input, shorter folks input and beginner input. :^)
Great looking bike, if I was commuting in a city I would get one
Me too....
Yes! commuting does come to mind for this vehicle... Years ago I used a Honda C90 step through for such... it never seemed to run out of fuel, unlike my Ro80 that I owned at the same time..
Scooters are awesome fun around town. I rented a Piaggio Gilera for a week. It had an aftermarket exhaust on it and pops n crackles each time I close the throttle. But I wouldn’t say it’s more comfortable or economical than a PCX or an Nmax though.
Woohoo, I’m the very first to comment. If you jump to conclusions, you could think I really want this bike. Or I have nothing else to do. But actually, your videos are so good, I even watch the review of bikes I don’t need.
Good o hear! Thanks....
Little screamer mate. So practical in these mad times.
Sure are Kevin!
thank you
You're welcome
I’ve got a brand new 23 plate pcx which now has enough room for a full face helmet.
When are you going to ride the "Honda Monkey"? It seems to get great reviews, I would love one but as my body is a temple... the size of one, I think I would look silly on it.
I wish we had the red in Australia. I’m a sucker for red.
Hi im wondering which is the better bike for top speed the pcx125 or the cb125f ?
which is the faster bike ?
Love watching your reviews ,you cover everything , thank you
Marginal but cb125f I would imagine
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you again
As a chunky chap of 6ft and 110Kg the PCX is a little on the small side for me having sat on my friends. Would be great to see you review it's bigger brother, the Forza 125 to see how they compare though.
Stay tuned!
My son has a 2020 Forza 125 and (as a rider of large capacity bikes) I was really impressed with it. As you say it's a physically bigger machine than the PCX and has both more power and higher spec all round. Even though it's only a 125, you could travel some real distances on it in comfort.
Here in Thailand this scooter is very infamous as a motorcycle for young hooligan riders lol. There are plenty of modified PCX and Yamaha X-max with very loud pipe over here.
Oh dear....I guess they're smart hooligans then becasue it's a great bike!
Thx
The do a much bigger windscreen as an optional extra.
anyone know the exact measurement size front the ground to the top of the windshield ? want to know if it will fit into a motorhome garage. thanks
A nice little bike indeed, you nearly selling it to me lol. Wanna buy a Orcal Astor🤭🤭
I cant say I've ever seriously looked at scooters, however a biker friend of many years bought a Suzuki Bergman , mainly because of difficulty getting his leg over..the seat!...I will possibly go the same way in the next few years..either that or hang up me boots.!!
They definately have their place....
Im towing with the idea of getting a 125 manual bike for my A1 test coming up. But I can only afford pcx or a manual.
Cons: It's a scooter.
Pros: Will keep you lady parts well ventilated in summer.
You give bikers a bad name.
@@iainamurray Have a nice day.
Hello great video, what worries me is a scooter in the wet??? what would you say?
No issue if ridden sensibly…
I am happy that in the US we get the 160 version, but I’m a bit annoyed that it doesn’t have the rear hydraulic disc brake or the auto stop start.
Yes that stop start is a great feature I think....
Why don't they have it in the US models?
@@phxrsx Law requires a motorcycle style engine kill switch so that is in place of the idle/stop switch. Lack of disc brake seems to be cost and customers here not caring like they do in countries that buy more scooters. We also don’t get the smart key.
Hello Mr Flyer, just adding a comment to say thanks for a most interesting and sensible review. I think these type of bikes are great for so many people and a great inroad into biking. :>)
Thanks very much...
I do love the PCX, though not ridden a 125 version I doubt it could be that much different to the 150 really.
The build quality and reliability of these is amazing. You can often judge these kind of bikes by their second hand adverts. Unlike most large capacity bikes, scoots most commonly have to work for their breakfast and so it’s completely normal to see them 2 or 3 years old (usually whenever the warranty/finance ends) with more than a few dozen thousand Km’s and the PCX’s always stay looking great which I think says it all really.
Deal breakers for me are primarily the under seat storage - it’s just too measly for no real reason - and being a tall fella there’s not a lot of knee room on them. I tried this and the adv150 a bunch but ended up with an nmax purely because more leg room, fits a man sized helmet.
I would disagree with you Andy in that I think automatic shut off is a nuisance on a scooter not a boon lol, but to each their own! For me these things don’t actually burn enough fuel at idle for it to make any difference and you want the motor already running once you’ve filtered to the front, so I don’t really see the point, useless complexity in my book.
But TC is good, as is finally getting rid of the drum at the back, and scooters always need keyless as little shits will try and steal them
Overall good bike, but c’mon Honda… make it fit a proper full face helmet already
Thanks for the feedback - fair points! You can of course turn off the idle stop feature and according to insurance companies keyless actually makes bikes more stealable!
@@TheMissendenFlyer can you turn it off-off or does it reset to on at every power off like an electronics device from the 80’s?
Interesting on the keyless report though! Is that high tech crims hacking the thing or just being able to wheel it away easier? Bit of a shame as I hoped it might at least slow them down lol. Never had a bike with it, but I do have a car with it and fortunately learnt before it was too late that you can start the bloody thing if the key fob is in a room adjacent to the garage. Not sure if it’s a super powerful keyfob or just my garage walls are made of Papier-mâché. I notice on my wife’s newer car it does seem to only be able to start if the key fob is in the garage however. For example in her handbag on the counter next to the car… lol
Tip on keyless ignitions; I keep my car keys in an old metal bread bin and it shields the signal.
Hey Mr Flyer. Just wondering what’s happening with the Enfield? Is there a problem ? Cheers . Kev
If you watch my recent garage tour video I give you an update towards the end....