I went to school in Canada and I learned almost nothing of the Canadian history as told by Mark and Conrad. Enlightening. Thank you. I now live in the US and Jesse Watters of Fox used to ask passersby American history questions. "Who was the first president of the US?" Most had no idea! "What country did we go to war with to gain our independence?" Answers varied from France to Germany. I think one or two correctly answered England. Jesse even asked Harvard students simple history questions and many of them did not know the answers. I, the Canuck, knew the answers to these and other simple questions. Doesn't anyone read any more?
@@dwc0 Actually, he said, “The longer you can look back, the farther you can look forward.” You're in good company, though; even the Queen got it wrong.
This is a fantastic interview. I have seen Black before, but when you touch on his knowledge of history and elicit his summary views in rapid sequence about the nature of the UK, US, Canada and AU the results is enlightening and stunning. I suddenly think many people were maybe just not up to the task of interviewing Conrad. And first we have the real interview. Someone who is as wide-ranging enough, but also communicates with him person-to-person without either media or personal baggage about his position in the world and personal history. I really think you should take this on the road, expanded to the current state of the West and with a few guest panelist here and there (Douglas Murray, Victor Davis Hanson, Niall Ferguson, John Anderson, maybe even Jordan Peterson)?
We need more people he says , ironic when you consider how many Europeans they deport as ‘illegal immigrants’ Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbians are not good enough , what a silly country Canada is.
At the time, however, they genetically, intellectually, democratically and culturally were more British than even the British - especially in terms of Crown (then German), army (heaviky German) and Parliament in Westminster (completely distanced from all normal folk, still largely aristocratic (Norman Roots) / privileged / foreign influenced / self-serving). Some in the US - depending on area - still strike me as being more British than the British (especially the British of today). Canadians also were a new nation - but decided to put up with Westminster, the privileged ruling middle / upper classes and the Crown for longer than the US. Moreover, they made a unique nation combining a French nation with an Anglo-Saxon nation. More so than the US - at least.
First time I've heard the idea that the British doubled their debt to kick France out of the 13 colonies AND simply wanted the colonists to pay for some of it. The perspective on Thomas Jefferson was excellent too. Also makes sense to have the others in line to the thrown be monarchs of the different nations in The Commonwealth. Thanks guys for the EXCELLENT interview. I absolutely love scholarly thinkers that call B.S. in sarcastic and civilized ways.
"We need more people .." ... "broad culture" Um .... NO! A remarkably civil conversation between these 2 old friends who are on opposite sides of the globalism debate.
Spot on with those bloody land acknowledgements, drove me nuts at the graduate student society at SFU, drives me nuts at every major public event today. Good conversation.
The American Revolution was as much a religious war as any. The Religion of the Anglican Church is best stated by reading the Oath of Supremacy. Bottom line: The King is divine. Needless to say, the American Revolution was heresy and the British said so - it is no mistake that the British condemned revolutionaries in religious terms. Ultimately, the American revolution did the same thing the Americans would do to the Japanese emperor: remove the cloak of divinity and overturn the order; Replacing God/Providence -> King/Emperor -> Aristocracy -> Peasantry, with God/Providence -> Peasantry -> Aristocracy -> King. Of course, this change means that the names no longer fit, so the current American titles are actually....God/Providence -> The People -> Congress -> President.
Bottom line. Take control of your community in all aspects. Most ppl are lazy, they let what becomes a clique run the community they live in. That clique has an ego & the power they wield is heady. POWER CORRUPTS. Be the watchman
Katherine McChesney _Most people are indeed lazy_ as demonstrated by you Katherine. You were seemingly so ‘disgusted’ by the claim that you couldn’t be bothered to mount a counter narrative. Thanks for proving Kat McKay right...
I am smarter for listening to this conversation. What must these two think of the university grads spewing social justice nonsense with no understanding of their own history.
An excellent interview, Mark! Lord Black is a great Canadian. I consider him a great public intellectual. When the contemporary world gets me down I find Conrad Black and you, Mark, are a wonderful antidote...
A great and entertaining interview. Despite the Trudeau's best efforts, there still seems to be intelligent, articulate and educated non female PERSONS in Canada.
I got a shocking eyeopener a couple decades ago when Prince Charles answered a question about America while visiting Canada as he referred to us as still nothing but "the Colonies" !!😮
Canada still nothing but "the colonies"? That's exactly the attitude of King George, the Ministry, and mercantile class in GB whom fomented the American Revolution. "Sit down and shut up you Damn Colonials! You will obey the Navigation Acts, the Molasses Act, Writs of Assistance, the Sugar Act, the Admiralty Courts, and the Stamp Act. And you will allow our corrupt tax collectors to plunder you and break down your doors searching for untaxed tea and molasses. And you will like it, or else! And by the way, we will confiscate your weapons, powder, and lead.
Nobody is turned away in an emergency from US healthcare. Visitors to the US might be stabilized and returned to their home country, but that is an agreement between the countries. Emergency car is always available here.
How hard is it to figure out health care for crying out loud. ALL catastrophic failure should be covered, and very well defined (accidents and life threatening shit like heart attacks/cancer/diseases). Everything else, and I mean everything, is up to the individual. This solves the issue from both the left and the right, people get taken care of but only minimal cost to the taxpayer as your cough and your idiocy is not covered except by insurance.
Britain wanted free and pen use to the Panama Canal without investment of manpower or finance. The UK and Canada don’t want to try taking over the Caribbean because every time there is a natural disaster there, it is the US that goes in and helps stabilize their lives and economy. We spend millions every time a hurricane strikes and Canada rarely offers assistance.
I know Conrad and Mark...l am so sad that people don't care about history and that they cannot bother to see how great these people were. They know not what an accomplishment it was to establish the new world.
I really enjoyed watching this. I might take some exception though to the reference about the 1837 Rebellion as being led by some drunks in a bar. The rebels may well have enjoyed a few drinks but my grandmas family owned the tavern and paid heavily for that.. The rebellion may have been foolhardy and inconsequential but the consequences were hanging and transportation for treason. Even for those on the periphery.
Much enjoyed. 1 point I want to make: Everyone who paid attention in US history class knows why the Brits were taxing the colonies. So, your suggestion that we yanks are nothing more than patriotic "nationalists" is a crock of shyte. What you fail to mention, Conrad, is that the British sent troops to occupy US cities and protect the British "governors" who were, for all intent and purpose, dictators and thoroughly above the law. There was NO recourse for decisions made by these little "kings". That's were the animus was born. In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. Had the British treated the colonists civilly, the colonists would have reacted civilly. But the brits didn't, they began forcing the colonists to buy everything through Britain, something the colonists had NEVER done. I can speculate just like you and Mark, Conrad, had Franklin and other diplomats been told that the colonies would be held financially responsible for British Army protection, there would have been a far better resolution. But, thank god, neither King George nor the parliament put it in writing! It wasn't until after the end of the war with the French, that Britain found itself in financial straights, due their own stupidity, that's when it suddenly became a popular rallying cry in Parliament to make the "scum" in america pay for the empires financial malfeasance and , "by the way, you silly colonists, if you don't, we will do to you what we did to the French!!" You're a historian? Not by my standards, you're not. I don't know anyone who considers americans better than Canadians, Brits or anyone else, for that matter. That idea was born out of jealousy, jealousy due to the United States growth and eventual preeminence. Not because we were better, we know it was due to our location and resources. Yes, I'm proud of my country, but I'm far more grateful. Grateful for being born here. A historian would know the difference between the rich C-suckers who have controlled the Federal government since the first Adams and those of us that lived and died, working and raising families. Like the Canadians, as well, dying in foreign incursions for people who, before and after, look down their (your) noses at us. For the first time in the history of my country, we have a president who cares more for the common man than he does for the state aka "the rich C-suckers". What is it about historians? They can never quite get history right.
Poor Mark looks so uncomfortable all twisted around in that bloody chair. Why didn't he move the damn thing so he could sit directly infront of Conrad ?
Why does he associate having a large population with being an important country? Egypt has a population similar to Trudeau's target of 100 million, while South Africa and Tanzania have close to Black's suggestion of 60 million. They're not important countries. Brazil, Nigeria and Pakistan all have close to 200 million people. One is a lot more important than the others.
Canada and the US are #1 Trading Partners in terms of Dollars. The Canadian Pacific Railroad system emerged as a result of this trade. What Freight Rail lacks in glamour it more than makes up for in Wealth.
When the hell were France and England not fighting wars, they were in competition to rule the world, you ever hear of the 100 year War. You assume we benefitted from French Indian War, when in fact this was part of ongoing war between the first two world powers. American war for Independence was just a natural movement to recognize the simple fact that Colonial Americans were completely independent.
PM Bourdon is on the Cdn$100.oo bill?! :o I'm Canadian and don't know this...because I have never seen a Cdn$100.oo because of our total shit economy!!
America in 1850 didn't want Canada. It still remembered the colonial Tories from revolutionary times. As soon as it was clear after 1812 that there weren't enough Canadian Tories to threaten the U.S., the Americans forgot about Canada. After that Canada was locked out completely by the threat new territories posed to the southern states' hold on slavery. Canada lost a tremendous opportunity when it opposed the revolution. They were soldiers/suckers for the empire until I was a teenager.
I love Mark Steyn and Black is a great guest but, with regards to healthcare, conservatives are still consistently wrong. Robust insurance can be prohibitively expensive for those on the lowest rung and it’s possible for even the wealthy to find themselves between policies, hit with a medical emergency which can lose them the proverbial ranch. My wife was very accomplished, and had just started her probationary period as a CEO. Just 2 short weeks between the end of her old insurance policy under her previous employer, and when her new policy kicked in under her new employer. She was diagnosed with cancer in that two week uninsured window. We had to sell the condominium, her mum’s jewelry, brother in law’s Rolex watches and the inheritance. Plus we had a fundraiser. This payed for 6 months of aggressive but unsuccessful chemotherapy, 4 months on the cancer ward and a week in the ICU. Sadly she passed away. Meanwhile, in the UK, the NHS, with all its admitted problems, has treated three of my working class friends cancers, saving their lives and they didn’t lose the ranch or have to decide whether they could afford health insurance or shoes for the kids from their meagre, short term contract retail salary. Yes free at the point of service healthcare does mean that waiting lists can be long and hospitals lack cutting edge facilities and wealthy people may be taxed to subsidise the poor! (But no one is stopping the rich from booking into a top notch Harley Street hospital so they’re not forced to use the NHS) But if you work in a supermarket you probably can’t afford robust insurance and if you can’t afford a Ferrari, you almost certainly cannot afford to pay for your own chemotherapy. Unless we’re going to admit that we think it’s preferable that healthcare isn’t something we should subsidise for those who can’t afford it, let’s not pretend that people don’t lose the ranch in a market based system. Conservatives are just plain wrong on healthcare. Where conservatives in Britain and Europe make sense is in saying that....The best way to cut waiting lists and the pressure on healthcare services is to cease welcoming the world to Western nations. But we still need that safety net
Dear Mark, I mean no offense but you're slacking. You should be doing a daily show, or a weekly show at the very least. The times demand a bit more of this heroic work.
What Conrad Black suggested would have happened without the revolution is exactly what Franklin had put to the his British supporters in the UK. Bare in mind that he actually got quite close to making it happen. Subsequent UK government's would have acquiesced. The revolution was actually a mistake.
32:30 They were an eternity behind the Europeans. They were not Europeans and would/will NEVER be. What an arrogant statement to think that their culture would ever become what the Europeans created.
Too few doctors in Canada? Recently experienced the situation of doctors in a large Canadian hospital. Swarms of doctors tripping all over themselves with sub-par communication among them and with the patient. Streams of doctors for this and that each day. The next day, an entirely new stream of different doctors for this and that, who didn't seem to have a clue about the conclusions and decisions of the previous day's stream. Then the third day -- maybe the first stream would be back after a day off, but no, a third stream of entirely different doctors, on and on.... Total confusion and overabundance of doctors. Entirely not apparent that each daily stream for one speciality (say heart) had communicated with the stream for another speciality (say kidney). And you can imagine the dosages of pills each stream had subscribed! Canada's healthcare system is a disaster, and it's not about too few doctors. Maybe about some doctors who have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for their education, then go on to work part time!
The CPR still doesn't make much sense. The Trans Canada Highway is even more of a joke. The difficult terrain, distance, and harsh winters will always make them inefficient, expensive and limited in capacity. Canadian trade will always be easier to the south. The same applies to pipelines. This physical reality does not bode well for Canada in the future.
If yall do decide to up and leave,hopefully you raze everything to the ground,and take all your factories,mining cos.,oil cos.,and wealth,and go back to Europe,and leave them as close as possible,to the condition you found them in.
If only ENGLAND was as TUFF avec HONG KONG as they were with the FALKLAND'$.... Canader get'$ $ADDLED with U$ED BRITI$H $UBMAINES (CRAP) and U.K buy'$ them$elves a NEW AIRCRAFT CARRIER....futt me.
I love these two guys, both super smart and also great sense of humor. Mark Steyn is absolutely my favorite interviewer.
Great respect for both of you gentlemen.
NO ONE does it better than Mark Steyn
Makes you feel sad for the rest.
What a pleasant informed wide-ranging conversation - settles the spirit......
I went to school in Canada and I learned almost nothing of the Canadian history as told by Mark and Conrad. Enlightening. Thank you. I now live in the US and Jesse Watters of Fox used to ask passersby American history questions. "Who was the first president of the US?" Most had no idea! "What country did we go to war with to gain our independence?" Answers varied from France to Germany. I think one or two correctly answered England. Jesse even asked Harvard students simple history questions and many of them did not know the answers. I, the Canuck, knew the answers to these and other simple questions. Doesn't anyone read any more?
That was a fascinating and extremely entertaining/enlightening interview. Many thanks, Mr. Steyn and Mr. Black.
Reminds me of Churchill’s comment, “The further back I look, the further forward I can see”.
"The *farther* back you can look the *farther* forward you are likely to see" - WC
@@dwc0 Actually, he said, “The longer you can look back, the farther you can look forward.” You're in good company, though; even the Queen got it wrong.
Great interview. A very enjoyable hour.
I loved this interview, thank you Mark & Conrad, I was both enlightened and entertained. Teza from Sydney Australia
This is a fantastic interview. I have seen Black before, but when you touch on his knowledge of history and elicit his summary views in rapid sequence about the nature of the UK, US, Canada and AU the results is enlightening and stunning.
I suddenly think many people were maybe just not up to the task of interviewing Conrad. And first we have the real interview. Someone who is as wide-ranging enough, but also communicates with him person-to-person without either media or personal baggage about his position in the world and personal history.
I really think you should take this on the road, expanded to the current state of the West and with a few guest panelist here and there (Douglas Murray, Victor Davis Hanson, Niall Ferguson, John Anderson, maybe even Jordan Peterson)?
We need more people he says , ironic when you consider how many Europeans they deport as ‘illegal immigrants’ Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbians are not good enough , what a silly country Canada is.
Great to hear from Mr. Black!
Yall forgot about Jordan Peterson as a famous Canadian who is making a giant contribution to Western Civilization
Jeff Poehl Jordan Peterson is a great Canadian patriot. We are lucky to have such a man.
Jordan Peterson wrote the forward to the book Mark is holding.
The US had no interest in being the top dog in the British Empire.
As Franklin said, "we're a new people, we require a new nation."
At the time, however, they genetically, intellectually, democratically and culturally were more British than even the British - especially in terms of Crown (then German), army (heaviky German) and Parliament in Westminster (completely distanced from all normal folk, still largely aristocratic (Norman Roots) / privileged / foreign influenced / self-serving). Some in the US - depending on area - still strike me as being more British than the British (especially the British of today). Canadians also were a new nation - but decided to put up with Westminster, the privileged ruling middle / upper classes and the Crown for longer than the US. Moreover, they made a unique nation combining a French nation with an Anglo-Saxon nation. More so than the US - at least.
FYI, Mark Steyn, Canada's defense minister was born in India, not Somalia.
Very enjoyable interview. Time well spent.
another absolutely stellar episode... smarter for it...
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview and look forward to reading the book!
X-nay on the "Royal Republic of Canada" - but it was still a great interview. I always learn a few things from Conrad Black. Thanks, Mark.
First time I've heard the idea that the British doubled their debt to kick France out of the 13 colonies AND simply wanted the colonists to pay for some of it. The perspective on Thomas Jefferson was excellent too. Also makes sense to have the others in line to the thrown be monarchs of the different nations in The Commonwealth. Thanks guys for the EXCELLENT interview. I absolutely love scholarly thinkers that call B.S. in sarcastic and civilized ways.
"We need more people .." ... "broad culture" Um .... NO!
A remarkably civil conversation between these 2 old friends who are on opposite sides of the globalism debate.
Spot on with those bloody land acknowledgements, drove me nuts at the graduate student society at SFU, drives me nuts at every major public event today. Good conversation.
Homeschoolers - in general :) - know A LOT OF AMERICAN/CANADIAN HISTORY!! Don’t lose hope!
The American Revolution was as much a religious war as any. The Religion of the Anglican Church is best stated by reading the Oath of Supremacy. Bottom line: The King is divine. Needless to say, the American Revolution was heresy and the British said so - it is no mistake that the British condemned revolutionaries in religious terms. Ultimately, the American revolution did the same thing the Americans would do to the Japanese emperor: remove the cloak of divinity and overturn the order; Replacing God/Providence -> King/Emperor -> Aristocracy -> Peasantry, with God/Providence -> Peasantry -> Aristocracy -> King. Of course, this change means that the names no longer fit, so the current American titles are actually....God/Providence -> The People -> Congress -> President.
Great interview - thank you!
Bottom line. Take control of your community in all aspects. Most ppl are lazy, they let what becomes a clique run the community they live in. That clique has an ego & the power they wield is heady. POWER CORRUPTS. Be the watchman
You lie when you say most people are lazy. YOU have absolutely NO proof of that. I think you are probably a snob who is a disgusting know-it-all.
Indeed. Nice insight. I learned this a long time ago when my kids were in public school.
Katherine McChesney _Most people are indeed lazy_ as demonstrated by you Katherine. You were seemingly so ‘disgusted’ by the claim that you couldn’t be bothered to mount a counter narrative. Thanks for proving Kat McKay right...
I am smarter for listening to this conversation. What must these two think of the university grads spewing social justice nonsense with no understanding of their own history.
An excellent interview, Mark! Lord Black is a great Canadian. I consider him a great public intellectual. When the contemporary world gets me down I find Conrad Black and you, Mark, are a wonderful antidote...
Conservatives today: "We need private healthcare run by the government." Gag me.
RINO's!
This was a great interview
A great and entertaining interview. Despite the Trudeau's best efforts, there still seems to be intelligent, articulate and educated non female PERSONS in Canada.
Yes so Canadian..stands for nothing but pomposity and taxation
Great interview. I salute you Conrad.
Pierre and Justin different? Justin Castro?
Awesome; frank and relevant !
Excellent
“Pretzel Logic”
This chap _knows…_
What fun, watching two old imperialists talking about how they can again rule the world! :) A fine interview, enjoyed it.
Used to work on Montague (Conrad's brothers) car collection in the 80's. Wonderful interview
Two great Canadians
Any chance of more interviews with Conrad on history , really enjoyed both of you chatting about history
Fantastically enlightening discussion. Thank you!
I got a shocking eyeopener a couple decades ago when Prince Charles answered a question about America while visiting Canada as he referred to us as still nothing but "the Colonies" !!😮
Canada still nothing but "the colonies"? That's exactly the attitude of King George, the Ministry, and mercantile class in GB whom fomented the American Revolution. "Sit down and shut up you Damn Colonials! You will obey the Navigation Acts, the Molasses Act, Writs of Assistance, the Sugar Act, the Admiralty Courts, and the Stamp Act. And you will allow our corrupt tax collectors to plunder you and break down your doors searching for untaxed tea and molasses. And you will like it, or else! And by the way, we will confiscate your weapons, powder, and lead.
Nobody is turned away in an emergency from US healthcare. Visitors to the US might be stabilized and returned to their home country, but that is an agreement between the countries. Emergency car is always available here.
Love the interview, but Mark's audio really sucks! Mr. Black's is fine with a LAV. Did you forget the boom and lost the other LAV?
At present, Canada is as much of an American state as California will soon be.
Conrad Black came to this interview in order to promote his book, and during this interview, Steyn talked about everything except Black's book.
Yes, but who interested in Canadian history wouldn't consider it a fine addition to their library after this interview?
ONE great interview;,,,keep them coming MARK//dad88
People in power change history to suit their agenda. From Fables de la Fontaine: "La raison du plus fort est toujours la meilleur".
How hard is it to figure out health care for crying out loud. ALL catastrophic failure should be covered, and very well defined (accidents and life threatening shit like heart attacks/cancer/diseases). Everything else, and I mean everything, is up to the individual. This solves the issue from both the left and the right, people get taken care of but only minimal cost to the taxpayer as your cough and your idiocy is not covered except by insurance.
Brilliant minds.
Good show, sad to have to cut out early. How can we find out about the travesty of a trial Black went through?
Britain wanted free and pen use to the Panama Canal without investment of manpower or finance. The UK and Canada don’t want to try taking over the Caribbean because every time there is a natural disaster there, it is the US that goes in and helps stabilize their lives and economy. We spend millions every time a hurricane strikes and Canada rarely offers assistance.
The exchange @25:24 is the funniest thing on youtube today.
Scott Delaney I also loved this bit.
Fabulous graphics!!
Wow, here's another one....and it's a year old.
I know Conrad and Mark...l am so sad that people don't care about history and that they cannot bother to see how great these people were. They know not what an accomplishment it was to establish the new world.
DIVERSITY means IGNORE YOUR HERITAGE and HISTORY. Nice job TURDEAU.
The US didn’t ask permission for our freedom we took and that still grinds the British government
I really enjoyed watching this. I might take some exception though to the reference about the 1837 Rebellion as being led by some drunks in a bar. The rebels may well have enjoyed a few drinks but my grandmas family owned the tavern and paid heavily for that.. The rebellion may have been foolhardy and inconsequential but the consequences were hanging and transportation for treason. Even for those on the periphery.
Enlightening.
I must add another mention of how thoroughly distracting was the mismatch in quality of the two participants.
Recently, you've been hitting your interviewing stride very nicely Mark with this and the George Papadopoulos interview.
Carry on "My Wayward Son" ; )
I like his ideas on Canadian manifest destiny:) Iceland is ours for the taking!
The problem is evident when you examine the paper currency. Canada can't do without the City.
Much enjoyed. 1 point I want to make: Everyone who paid attention in US history class knows why the Brits were taxing the colonies. So, your suggestion that we yanks are nothing more than patriotic "nationalists" is a crock of shyte. What you fail to mention, Conrad, is that the British sent troops to occupy US cities and protect the British "governors" who were, for all intent and purpose, dictators and thoroughly above the law. There was NO recourse for decisions made by these little "kings". That's were the animus was born. In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. Had the British treated the colonists civilly, the colonists would have reacted civilly. But the brits didn't, they began forcing the colonists to buy everything through Britain, something the colonists had NEVER done. I can speculate just like you and Mark, Conrad, had Franklin and other diplomats been told that the colonies would be held financially responsible for British Army protection, there would have been a far better resolution. But, thank god, neither King George nor the parliament put it in writing! It wasn't until after the end of the war with the French, that Britain found itself in financial straights, due their own stupidity, that's when it suddenly became a popular rallying cry in Parliament to make the "scum" in america pay for the empires financial malfeasance and , "by the way, you silly colonists, if you don't, we will do to you what we did to the French!!" You're a historian? Not by my standards, you're not. I don't know anyone who considers americans better than Canadians, Brits or anyone else, for that matter. That idea was born out of jealousy, jealousy due to the United States growth and eventual preeminence. Not because we were better, we know it was due to our location and resources. Yes, I'm proud of my country, but I'm far more grateful. Grateful for being born here. A historian would know the difference between the rich C-suckers who have controlled the Federal government since the first Adams and those of us that lived and died, working and raising families. Like the Canadians, as well, dying in foreign incursions for people who, before and after, look down their (your) noses at us. For the first time in the history of my country, we have a president who cares more for the common man than he does for the state aka "the rich C-suckers". What is it about historians? They can never quite get history right.
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It is not just history, you have to add the traditions of the country.
Poor Mark looks so uncomfortable all twisted around in that bloody chair. Why didn't he move the damn thing so he could sit directly infront of Conrad ?
Why does he associate having a large population with being an important country? Egypt has a population similar to Trudeau's target of 100 million, while South Africa and Tanzania have close to Black's suggestion of 60 million. They're not important countries.
Brazil, Nigeria and Pakistan all have close to 200 million people. One is a lot more important than the others.
Canada and the US are #1 Trading Partners in terms of Dollars. The Canadian Pacific Railroad system emerged as a result of this trade. What Freight Rail lacks in glamour it more than makes up for in Wealth.
When the hell were France and England not fighting wars, they were in competition to rule the world, you ever hear of the 100 year War. You assume we benefitted from French Indian War, when in fact this was part of ongoing war between the first two world powers. American war for Independence was just a natural movement to recognize the simple fact that Colonial Americans were completely independent.
In terms of sheer quality, American healthcare (warts and all) has no peer.
PM Bourdon is on the Cdn$100.oo bill?! :o
I'm Canadian and don't know this...because I have never seen a Cdn$100.oo because of our total shit economy!!
America in 1850 didn't want Canada. It still remembered the colonial Tories from revolutionary times. As soon as it was clear after 1812 that there weren't enough Canadian Tories to threaten the U.S., the Americans forgot about Canada. After that Canada was locked out completely by the threat new territories posed to the southern states' hold on slavery.
Canada lost a tremendous opportunity when it opposed the revolution. They were soldiers/suckers for the empire until I was a teenager.
Mark Steyn truly a great Canadian. Sound not so great.
Great interview of the type you do no see today very often.
Arguably the definitive biography of FDR....
James Hennighan
Yorkshire, England
I love Mark Steyn and Black is a great guest but, with regards to healthcare, conservatives are still consistently wrong. Robust insurance can be prohibitively expensive for those on the lowest rung and it’s possible for even the wealthy to find themselves between policies, hit with a medical emergency which can lose them the proverbial ranch.
My wife was very accomplished, and had just started her probationary period as a CEO. Just 2 short weeks between the end of her old insurance policy under her previous employer, and when her new policy kicked in under her new employer. She was diagnosed with cancer in that two week uninsured window.
We had to sell the condominium, her mum’s jewelry, brother in law’s Rolex watches and the inheritance. Plus we had a fundraiser. This payed for 6 months of aggressive but unsuccessful chemotherapy, 4 months on the cancer ward and a week in the ICU. Sadly she passed away. Meanwhile, in the UK, the NHS, with all its admitted problems, has treated three of my working class friends cancers, saving their lives and they didn’t lose the ranch or have to decide whether they could afford health insurance or shoes for the kids from their meagre, short term contract retail salary.
Yes free at the point of service healthcare does mean that waiting lists can be long and hospitals lack cutting edge facilities and wealthy people may be taxed to subsidise the poor! (But no one is stopping the rich from booking into a top notch Harley Street hospital so they’re not forced to use the NHS)
But if you work in a supermarket you probably can’t afford robust insurance and if you can’t afford a Ferrari, you almost certainly cannot afford to pay for your own chemotherapy.
Unless we’re going to admit that we think it’s preferable that healthcare isn’t something we should subsidise for those who can’t afford it, let’s not pretend that people don’t lose the ranch in a market based system.
Conservatives are just plain wrong on healthcare.
Where conservatives in Britain and Europe make sense is in saying that....The best way to cut waiting lists and the pressure on healthcare services is to cease welcoming the world to Western nations.
But we still need that safety net
Dear Mark, I mean no offense but you're slacking. You should be doing a daily show, or a weekly show at the very least. The times demand a bit more of this heroic work.
...and Mr. Steyn too of course
Ajax's population (2016) is now 120,000.
Ha ha!
So grandpa went south quicker than the car could go south? Ooooooh the irony!
What Conrad Black suggested would have happened without the revolution is exactly what Franklin had put to the his British supporters in the UK. Bare in mind that he actually got quite close to making it happen. Subsequent UK government's would have acquiesced. The revolution was actually a mistake.
Self-loathers gotta self-loathe.
32:30 They were an eternity behind the Europeans. They were not Europeans and would/will NEVER be. What an arrogant statement to think that their culture would ever become what the Europeans created.
Too few doctors in Canada? Recently experienced the situation of doctors in a large Canadian hospital. Swarms of doctors tripping all over themselves with sub-par communication among them and with the patient. Streams of doctors for this and that each day. The next day, an entirely new stream of different doctors for this and that, who didn't seem to have a clue about the conclusions and decisions of the previous day's stream. Then the third day -- maybe the first stream would be back after a day off, but no, a third stream of entirely different doctors, on and on.... Total confusion and overabundance of doctors. Entirely not apparent that each daily stream for one speciality (say heart) had communicated with the stream for another speciality (say kidney). And you can imagine the dosages of pills each stream had subscribed! Canada's healthcare system is a disaster, and it's not about too few doctors. Maybe about some doctors who have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for their education, then go on to work part time!
I love Mark, he's beyond brilliant...Black, not so much.
pretorious700 Your view of “brilliant” is ignorant.
Needs a bit of mic work.
These guy Conrad Black is deranged.
Ajax, pop. 100,000. Woot woot!
Racial law of supply & demand obtains noticeably in the great white north. Look at Minn..
The CPR still doesn't make much sense. The Trans Canada Highway is even more of a joke.
The difficult terrain, distance, and harsh winters will always make them inefficient, expensive and limited in capacity.
Canadian trade will always be easier to the south. The same applies to pipelines.
This physical reality does not bode well for Canada in the future.
Instead of MAGA hats we could all wear 'for United Canadian Kingdom' hats
The Minister of Immigration is 'the Somali" not the Minister of Defence.
IF U DON'T KNOW WHO U R....WHO R U..
As a jew how am i supposed to view "none is too many" Mackenzie King? i guess not all were better then J Trudaeu
Or maybe,there someone lurking about with some bastardized Bonaparte blood.Just kidding
If yall do decide to up and leave,hopefully you raze everything to the ground,and take all your factories,mining cos.,oil cos.,and wealth,and go back to Europe,and leave them as close as possible,to the condition you found them in.
Conrad is ignorant of the causal relationship between incentive and supply of health care professionals.
If only ENGLAND was as TUFF avec HONG KONG as they were with the FALKLAND'$....
Canader get'$ $ADDLED with U$ED BRITI$H $UBMAINES (CRAP) and U.K buy'$ them$elves a NEW AIRCRAFT CARRIER....futt me.
If you're interviewing your boss you don't point out to him that some of his historical fantasies are bollocks.