American Couple Reacts: Ned Kelly: Australia's Most Famous Outlaw!! FIRST TIME REACTION!!
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- American Couple Reacts: Ned Kelly: Australia's Most Famous Outlaw!! FIRST TIME REACTION!! We wanted to go back and look at some of Australia's history, the people for instance. We came across this video and from the title alone, we knew we had to watch and learn. Ned Kelly and the Kelly Gang! WOW! We learned a lot in this episode and very surprised we had never heard of him before! This was highly interesting, shocking and revealing. Let us know your thoughts. Hero or villain? Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support! *More Links below...
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We wanted to go back and look at some of Australia's history, the people for instance. We came across this video and from the title alone, we knew we had to watch and learn. Ned Kelly and the Kelly Gang! WOW! We learned a lot in this episode and very surprised we had never heard of him before! This was highly interesting, shocking and revealing. Let us know your thoughts. Hero or villain? Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!
Fitzpatrick was a dodgy barstard he was later kicked out of the police force because even they didn't trust him. Ned was the only person in the entire British empire who could be shot on site no questions asked.
The police at stringybark Creek were armed to the teeth out looking for them.
Yes. Mick Jagger played Ned, so did Heath Ledger.
Ned is viewed as a hero and a murderer equally (But becoming less the hero).
The world's 1 feature film (silent) was about the Kelly gang.
Are you sure you didn't mean the US serial killer "The Zodiac"?
Ned Kelly pie in beachworth.
Hi Natasha and Debbie, yes, there is a movie. In fact, while Mick Jagger was filming, he drank and ate at two places not far from Canberra where I live as filming took place in Braidwood, which is an old town that Canberrans travel through to get to the South Coast. During filming, a pistol with blanks backfired and he was taken to a Canberra hospital for treatment.
Hi girls, you asked if he still had support now, judging by the number of " Such is Life" car stickers and tatts, I've seen I'm sure he does, have a good one Cheers
Fun fact: In 1906 "The Story of the Kelly Gang" opened at the Athenaeum Theatre in Melbourne. It was the first multi-reel, feature-length film ever produced in the world.
Another fun fact, the Athenaeum Library, upstairs from the theatre, was the first public lending library in Victoria, and is still open and lending today.
Fragments of that film still exist.
You are wrong, Linda! The first full length feature film in history was made by the Salvation Army of Australia in 1900. Google "Soldiers of the Cross"
Government tried to censor it. Kelly wasnt the only bushrangers - there was a lot around the gold fields
@@paulthesurfer7470
Depends who says what. I always thought it was Kelly but I found more who said another movie was first. Found French and Indian and others but all say they are first
Arrival of a Train (1896)
Roundhay Garden Scene 1888
Salvation Army 1900.
short films in Paris on 28 December 1895,
On Boxing Day 1906 The Story of the Kelly Gang opened at the Athenaeum Theatre in Melbourne.
And the list goes on lol
Mick Jagger portrayed Ned Kelly in 1970, Yahoo Serious portrayed Ned Kelly in the 1993 film ‘Reckless Kelly’ and Heath Ledger portrayed Ned Kelly in 2003.
Carlton VFL footballer bad boy bob chitty also played him in the 1940s he was a legendary tough guy chitty and part of the infamous 1945 blood bath final a fierce final series apparently he played the role of ned Kelly very well. There is a whiskey brand called Ned available and a pretty good drop
@@mrpuniverse2Yep, had a couple of Neds on Sunday. Not bad at all ✌🏼
John Jarratt (star of Wolf Creek) also played Ned in the Australian mini-series "The Last Outlaw" (1980)
I have vague recollections of Mick Jagger being injured on that film when a gun blew up in his hand. I was only a kid then, but I also recall my dad, who was a bit of a stiff mumbling something about "bloody good thing too"....Needless to say, I wasn't allowed to listen to The Stones😅
@@iangregory3719 You are right. He was firing a gun with blanks and the gun backfired sending metal into his hand.
'Such is life' became embedded in Australian culture (even though it's debated that he said it) it became a part of our "She'll be right" attitude. Many Australians have this as a tattoo and I've even seen tourists go home with one.
Many bogan gronks in Australia have this quote inked yes.
Its debated if he actually said any last words at all but Such is life is also incorrect for the period and if he had said something to that effect it would have been "Such is the way of things"
@@gazj4303 Do you not think the word "life" existed in the year 1880 or something? What makes you think "Such is life" is "incorrect" for the period?
@SanctusPaulus1962 It is not that the word life didn't exist and that it is incorrectly phrased for the period. In fact, more people at the time reported that his last words were
'ah well I suppose' or 'ah well I suppose it has come to this'. "Such is life" was not attributed to him until much later.
The priest that read him his last rights at pentrige prison wrote Ned Kellys last words might have been I'm prepared to die but no-one had time to ask again so SUCH is LIFE was written instead
Clive James summed us up the best when He said "The problem with Australians is not that so many of them are descended from convicts, but that so many are descended from prison officers."
Try finding a video about Eureka, when gold miners went to war against an unjust government and corrupt police force in Australia's 'civil war' in 1854.
I've only one convict ancestor, married a free woman after he did his time then became a trooper of all things. I guess he was both. Stole a horse bridle apparently which got him sent here.
My ancestor, Michael Thomas Mullins was killed at the Eureka Stockade.
I’m pretty proud of him.
@@fugawiaus Factually - Michaael was a generation apart from Ned Kelly.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan Um, read the top post about eureka.
We’re not talking about Ned.
Two different subjects
Ned Kelly was born the year of the stockade
Actually there were no prison officers in colonial times, only police officers and trustees.
In Australia, we have this song called: “I Am Australian”. Part of the lyrics go; “I’m a teller of stories, I’m a singer of songs, I am Albert Namatjira, and I paint the ghostly gums. I’m Clancy on his horse, I’m Ned Kelly on the run, I’m the one who waltzed Matilda, I am Australian.” Ned Kelly is a true Australian icon.
Such a great song by The Seekers. Always get me. :)
I love that Debbie’s “g’day” is in her standard accent, instead of an exaggerated Australian accent; somehow that works!😊
Yes, it sounds natural. Good job Debbie!
Honestly, the best American g’day I’ve heard. Mad props to that!
Yeah definitely. Natasha and Debbie would make great Aussies. They seem laid back and believe in a fair go for others
@@matthewcullen1298 fair go? That's long gone. Do you think Australia government giving a fair go. Lol
@@Nathan-ry3yu did I ever mention the Australian government
What made Kelly seem even more dramatic, it was foggy. The police were focused on the hotel, Kelly came out of the bush behind them and opened fire on them. The armour did protect him to a point, once he fell over though from the impact of a shotgun blast, he couldn’t get up again. Everybody knows about the armour, a lot of people don’t realise he only wore it once. His last words to the judge who sentenced him were ‘I’ll see you you in hell Barry’. Judge Barry died a few weeks later.
plus from what I can tell he was tall for the time at least, it added something else
Redmond Barry was diagnosed with diabetes ten years before his death. Given that there was no treatment for diabetes in those days it was a miracle he lasted that long.
(The letter with all the name calling - in the Ned Kelly movie with Heath Ledger, they have a scene where he's composing the letter and the hostages are joining in suggesting names 😊) While it is hard to say how much of each side of the story is true, it isn't too hard to think that there was a lot of corruption within the police force and that ex convicts and Irish were treated with extra malice (bit like an Aussie wild West). Tough times to be poor, have a barren farm, and have no food or father around, and a mother doing hard labour. The fact that at only 10 he saved someone from drowning, left everyone alive at the station and bank robberies, burned peoples mortgages to rid their debts, wrote letters to the government about the corruption, and many people didn't give them up even though there was a $1.5 million bounty, to me, shows he was part victim of circumstance, part Robin Hood and part "gone too far with no way back" on a matter of principle (Thelma and Louise style). Natasha great pickup, yes, Mick Jagger was in one of the Ned Kelly movies (but I could never understand why). "Such is life" an Aussie saying for many, Ned Kelly ... hero, victim of circumstance, fighter of corruption, believer in principles, also a criminal and legend.
Well said.
Quite often, the police were criminals who needed a job after serving their time and as they had some knowledge of the system, were considered well-qualified.
Well said and I couldn’t agree more. The corruption and persecution that was carried out by the officials of those days is legendary.
The Jerilderie letter.
Ned Kelly is definitely a folk hero in Australian culture. Glad you checked out this legend.
@@highcountrydelatite He is absolutely a hero, he stood up to the likes of your kind... 🖕
@@highcountrydelatite So you think he's "evil" based on something that he didn't even do, but rather _could_ have done?
@@SanctusPaulus1962 a bit thick aren't you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For me, most Australians see Ned as standing up to injustice while also understanding his wrongdoings. He was somewhat a victim of circumstance, but it was forced largely through injustice. What really cements him in folklore was his acceptance of it all through his final words.
@bradwilliams7212 You have been incredibly opinionated in the comments of this video. So how about allowing others the same right you seem to think only you get, their opinion. Be respectful.
Hi Natasha and Debbie, the story that I was told Kate was near the river and she was getting the cow for her baby sisters milk. Fitzpatrick came across her and tried to force his way on her she broke free and ran to the homestead to her mother, Ellen knocked him out and received hard labor. Ned came home and found his sisters hungry and very little food. Kate told him what Fitzpatrick tried to do to her he went ballistic and the legend began, and the hatred for the police. ❤️🇦🇺🐨🐨🇦🇺
That's the version I know too.
Sounds fair to me .
I learnt this version too. However, like a lot of things to do with Ned Kelly, there are conflicting accounts & no proof of any of them. I repeated this version on another reactor’s channel & was quite aggressively shut down by a couple of people. But I reiterate…there’s no conclusive proof so they also couldn’t prove me wrong 🤷🏼♀️😁
This is the story I heard as well. No one will ever know for sure now. That being said if someone tried doing that too someone I loved their would be hell to pay.
This is the version I have always been told growing up as well
I live 20mins from beveridge and it's pronouced bev Ridge lol
We call our outlaws 'bushrangers'.😉 BTW, he pronounced 'Beveridge' very wrong but your reaction was funny! (Bevv-eridge....no beavers at all!). In fact, most of his pronunciations of town names were a abomination!😅 The 'justice' in those days was very harsh for Irish settlers under largely English rule. Re: the 'Fitzpatrick' incident, I believe the Kelly's version. As far as whether I see him as a hero or a villain in all of this, I think he was a rogue who rightfully hit back at English oppression but made some bad choices. Not really a hero but a villain with a purpose.....and 'such is life' has become a quite famous saying in Oz. Heath Ledger starred as Ned Kelly in the 2003 film 'Ned Kelly'. Avoid at all costs the 1970 film of the same name starring Mick Jagger as Kelly!
I agree, if you're going to do a narrative about a certain subject you should at least get the pronunciation of towns correct 😂
He made a total mess with his pronunciation of Jerilderie too.I agree with you Steve.I mostly believe the Kelly familes version, based on the fact the doctor who examined Fitzpatrick noted no sign of a gun shot wound.
He pronounced benalla wrong aswell. It's pronounced ben-ella not ben-ulla
@@bradwilliams7212 no
True, as a Victorian we pronounce ‘Beveridge’ as beverage, like a drink.
I guess this is what happens with an English narrator 🤷♂️
Not a Bushranger film but a historical classic as it is based on Australia's favourite poem is "The Man from Snowy River" set in colonial times it is a must watch
@@bradwilliams7212 What isn't true? do you not like the film?
@@bradwilliams7212 no probs
Is this the one with a young Russell Crowe?
@@kellymay83 I don't remember him being in it but maybe he had a small role?
@@kellymay83 You're thinking of The SIlver Brumby in which he plays 'The Man'.
Great to see you learning some Australian history. Ned is still a divisive figure.
A couple of comments about the video - the narrator’s pronunciation of Beveridge and Jerilderie were off, and at the Glenrowan siege the police paid scant regard for all the hostages inside - shooting and setting it alight before most had managed to get out. A number of people were injured by police firing blindly, and one person (the pub owner’s son) was killed.
Officer Fitzgerald was known to be corrupt, but he also had a thing for Kate Kelly (a baby in the family, which Ellen Kelly claimed as her own, is thought to have been Kate’s by Fitzgerald. There’s a really good biography about Kate Kelly herself by Rebecca Wilson that is well worth a read.
Yes, Mick Jagger (scrawny with a whisky beard) did indeed play Ned in a rather infamous film in the 70s - it’s still a fun watch. There are numerous films about the Kellys- in fact the first ever feature film made was The Story of the Kelly Gang, made in 1906. There have been 9 feature films, 2 miniseries and 2 TV movies made about Ned Kelly, as well as scores of books written (nonfiction and fiction).
The image of Kelly’s armor is iconic, and can be found everywhere in art and cultural references.
That’s what I learnt; the troopers disregard for the hostages’ lives & the corrupt Fitzgerald’s fixation on Kate Kelly. It’s such an interesting part of Australian history.
Beeveridge was especially annoying,
He got Benalla wrong as well.
I was in Glenrowen recently and took a selfie with the giant Ned they have there in all his armour. The town has become a Ned Kelly tourist attraction, worth a stop, plus the pie shop there is just awesome. Great reaction, love that you want to learn more about our history.
Definitely not nuts Natasha, Jagger did indeed play Ned Kelly back in 1970.
And he was so wrong for the part
Yes Mick Jagger did play Ned in a movie, so did Heath Ledger, the later being the more actuate story.
@@bradwilliams7212
I'm going to assume that you're a relative of one of the cops who was killed by Kelly.
Or just someone going around trolling for the sake of arguing with whoever.
@@myeuphonyzone3958 I only saw Mick as Kelly once, which was one time too many
@@bradwilliams7212
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, ok. 😜
The Heath Ledger portrayed of Ned Kelly was an insult! It was not accurate at all !! It was made more for the Hollywood type American audience!! It was a bloody dreadful movie!! NOT Ned Kelly at all!!! For example look at the part where it shows the scene at Glenrowan! Police getting shot everywhere! Only 1 Police man was shot at Glenrowan Superintendent Hare who was shot in the wrist by Ned Kelly. It also shows Police in uniform at STRINGYBARK CREEK and the circus bit with the Lions in the cages where in the hell did that come from?!! No SORRY this Movie was not accurate at all!! In my opinion the Mick Jagger Ned Kelly of 1970 was a much much more accurate portrait of Ned Kelly! and what happened !! 🙂
Considering modern Australia was settled by convicts, it stands to reason that most of us see Ned as somewhat of a hero. Something not mentioned in that was that after the trial, Such Is Life is not the only thing he said, he is also said to the Judge, Police Chief & Prosecutor, "I'll See You In Hell". The Judge died of a heart attack 2 days later. The Prosecutor died 2 weeks later & the Police Chief was shot dead the day Ned was Hanged. These are legends & of course many legends are part truths. The Story of Ned & his gang regardless of which side of the Legal fence you live, is a very important story in Australia's folklore.
By 1900 more Australians were of free settler origin rather then convict , but the convict part is always celebrated or empathised, don't ask me why. Proud to be of free law abiding settler origin myself!
@@highcountrydelatite Not to mention the fact that the true criminals were in the establishment, anyway. Haha.
@@bradwilliams7212 What are you on about?
"Such is Life" is t regularly voiced by Australians. It represents a sentiment at the core of our national identity. You are right about Mick Jagger.
Or the more modern colloquialism, "Shit happens".
A few years ago an American TV program made Ned Kelly's helmet. They made it with the materials and methods of Kelly's time. Then the TV show took weapons of that period and fired them at the helmet. They concluded that yes the helmet would have protected him from bullets. Weighs a ton, doesn't help vision, but it would keep him alive.
Well that’s interesting!
@@Reneesillycar74 Not great fun running away..... :)
@@gavinfoster8607 the plan was to use them at the train derailment. From above the embankment would have protected their legs while they shot at any surviving police in the wreckage below.
Id like to see that show. Do you know the name of it? The armour did it's job, kept him alive, even though he sustained 26 bullet wounds during the siege. From what I understand the plan with the armour was so they could hold up banks and not feel the need to shoot anyone, as can be seen from their bank jobs at Benalla and Jerilderie, no-one was shot, they could make their escape and no-one gets hurt, even if someone took pot shots at them. There were others in the area making armour at that time and it was Neds ambition, and that of the other oppressed Irish there, to establish their own Republic, separate from the British colony. 30,000 people signed the petition to try and save him from execution so he had significant support.
There is an old Australian saying 'As game as Ned Kelly' in that he went out to confront the police by himself so if someone did the same it would mean that you are brave.
I would recommend watching this video about the Jerilderie letter. This was written by Ned Kelly and for a so called uneducated man it is extremely well written. Love your videos. Keep them coming young ladies.
ruclips.net/video/qGaNEP6NY5c/видео.html
@bradwilliams7212 that is something that I did not know. Thank you. Always good to know something new.👍🏼
I read a copy of the letter as well and as you said it was exceptionally well written. Well worth reading and it gives a clearer picture of Ned Kelly the man
5:24 The sash is also significant because Ned's family were Irish and poor and the family of the boy whose life he saved were English and much better off money and station wise. An English family giving an Irish boy anything made out of silk was pretty significant.
There are some good bushranger movies including Mad Dog Morgan, Robbery Under Arms and of course a couple of Ned Kelly films, the 1970 film staring Mick Jagger as Ned and the 2003 with Heath Ledger.
Couple of others movies you should check out are Gallipoli with Mel Gibson, The Man from Snowy River and The Castle.
The Castle a cult classic. Tell'em their dreaming.
@@rodgerking1134 The serenity.
Gallipoli was a travesty of a movie full of misinformation. It must have come out around the time of Australia's bicentenary. It is an absolute blight on history and created unnecessary divisions between Britain and Australia. A work of fiction and a disgrace to the memory of all who fell.
On a lighter note, The Castle is a brilliant Australian film. One of my top 5 films of all time.
@@cfcuker Gallipoli came out in 1981 and was an anti-war film. You are right it was a fictional story. I lost 2 great grand uncles at Gallipoli, 1 on the 25th of May and a second in August he died of his wound on Lemnos. My Great Grandfather served with 7th Light Horse and then the 1st Camel Corps and he wrote about the division between the British officers and Aussies, they was great friendships between enlisted. So I disagree with you, but welcome your comment. Thanks for your reply. Have a good one.
You left out The True History of the Kelly Gang, which is a movie adaptation of Peter Carey’s novel of the same name (which is a banger of a book, and hilarious in many places, despite the grim parts of the story).
As an Aussie, I was surprised and happy they mentioned and quoted Ned in John Wick 4 movie 😁
That is a mere slice of the story, read An Australian Son, the author spoke to people who lived through that era, there is also the mini series starring John Jarrett as Ned.
In the late 1960's my unit in Vietnam had a Sgt Edward Kelly. He was always getting visits from the American Q Store staff asking if he had signed for material as Sgt Ned Kelly!
The gaol (jail) where Ned Kelly was hanged still stands and is now a tourist attraction called Old Melbourne Gaol. You can go tour it and see the exact area where he was hanged.
They also have night 'ghost' tours there for the brave of heart.
I went there as a child and that's when I started believing in ghostly spirits. I get a chill down my spine still when I think of it. I ran out of one cell!
See the Ned Kelly series of paintings by Sidney Nolan at the National Gallery in Canberra. They are great individually, but outstanding to see them all in one large room in the Gallery. A real knockout.
Yep, if you aren’t already familiar with Sidney Nolan, probably the greatest Australian artist ever, then you should check out the National Gallery in Canberra (in fact, I can’t think of any other reason to go to Canberra, honestly.) Nolan’s Kelly pictures are gorgeously colourful, and also pretty damn funny, with Ned wearing his helmet in every pic. Nolan also did some marvellous paintings of desert landscapes from the west and the Dead Heart - you’d almost think they were abstracts, but they’re actually strongly representational.
The 1970 Ned Kelly film was pretty good, particularly Mick’s delivery of the Famous Last Words. I missed the Heath Ledger version, but quite liked The True History of the Kelly Gang, which many found too arty and not very True.
I’m just a New Zealander, but my Granny was Aussie. There’s a distinct impression that Aussies come in two varieties, Catholic Irish ex-convicts, and the rest, who used to be descended from the English but since World War II have come from just about everywhere. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, eh? Although my Gran used to insist all our ancestors were prison guards, which I never thought was anything to be proud of.
@@SkepticalSteve01 An interesting thought from your grandmother. I have ancestors on both sides - convict and guard.
FYI as a Victorian we pronounce the town Beveridge as “beverage”, like a drink. Not the animal.
Yes😂was here for this
I mean, the Victorian Cricket team used to be called the Victorian Bushrangers up until 2018 and they used a logo of Ned Kelly swinging a cricket bat
Just for weight comparison, a full suit of medieval armour with helmet is normally about 60 lbs
There is another famous Australian Bushranger, who's exploits were the basis of the classic Australian novel "Robbery Under Arms" (1882-83).
In the novel he was fictionalized as "Captain Starlight", however the real person's name is Harry Readford (1841-1901); his exploits include one of the most audacious feats of cattle rustling at the time.
Yes Mick Jagger did play Ned Kelly in a movie (1970). But the latest Ned Kelly movie Heath Ledger played Ned (2003).
As someone who grew up 15 minutes away from Glenrowan it was painful to hear the narrator butcher the town names (Especially Benalla or Ben-ell-ah) although he did get Glenrowan and Euroa correct. All in all a great video though
You would think his researchers would show the courtesy of checking up on the pronunciation of names that were unfamiliar to them. It really grates to hear such terrible mangling.
Same here! I use to live between Wang and Benalla. I was also cringing at the pronunciation haha
Yep he butchered Jerilderie as well. Seriously…
😂😂😂 you’re joking right?? 😮
TY for delving into some Aussie history ladies, today it is still as divided as ever about Ned, some still have him as a semi hero some still as a murderer. Having visited Glenrowan and areas around there following Ned's hangouts and hiding places which to this day is very rugged so back then no wonder they could not locate them. I look at him as a man of his time, one pushed too far who in the end despised many Victorian police. His armour was very thick as can be seen from the many bullet strikes on it and even though he had planned to have leg armour time was against him, so imagine if he had.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘💖💖💖💖
Yes Mick Jagger played Ned Kelly in a film in the early 70s.
Perhaps this is better known in the UK as Australia was a colony, I've known about Ned since I was a kid. He was portrayed in comics, and books. Sort of folk hero, but also a murdering robber. It was the traditional English view of a certain class of Irish man.
There was a folk-rock band called Fotheringay who sang a song - the ballad of Ned Kelly, and released it on an album in 1970. The lead singer on this one is Trevor Lucas, he was an Australian. Normally his wife Sandy Denny sang the lead. At that time, with civil rights protests, govts were less than popular, and folk hero's were lauded. Hence this ballad is sympathetic, and the film with Jagger in is too. Bob Dylan appeared in a film Pat Garret and Billy the Kid about the same time. It was the flavour of the era.
Here is a link to The ballad of Ned Kelly. The guitar work is excellent, as is the rest of the album. Hope you enjoy it.
ruclips.net/video/mog-FLREy7E/видео.html
You should watch the following Aussie movies: Robbery Under Arms, Fields Of Fire, Gallipoli, The Man From Snowy River, The Castle, We Of The Never Never, A Fortunate Life, A Town Like Alice, All The Rivers Run. These are few classics.
Thanks!
Breaker Morant was another great movie, though I watched it last probably 30 years ago😁
The Castle is an absolute classic - but I would encourage them to check out Red Dog - a dog whose loyalty is beyond legendary!
I recently called in and visited the Elsey Cemetery in the Northern Territory. We of The Never Never was one of the first stories I ever read. I also went to Mataranka Springs to see the replica homestead which featured in the film We of the Never Never by Jeannie Gunn
Oooh good movie recs! I've seen most and will definitely watch the rest. Thanks ❤
Never heard of this dude.
Great video and history lessons for one of Australia’s Outlaws.
Yes, Mick Jagged played Ned Kelly in the 1970 film "Ned Kelly". There have been 9 feature films, 3 mini series and 2 TV movies about Ned Kelly. The most notable was The Story of the Kelly Gang in 1906, the next movie was in 1920 followed by the 1970 movie; then in 2003, and finally the True History of the Kelly Gang.
Hello from Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺🌏. Some Australian history movies are the dish (Australian involvement in the moon landing). Comedy called the Castle and tv series called Anzac Girls about Australian nurses who served in WWI.
My great grandmother was at Faithfuls creek, had no bad words about the Kellys.
Ned Kelly's death mask exists in some archive here in Australia. He was clean shaven for his appointment with the hangman.
As a minor point of interest ...
Famed British-Australian SF author Bertram Chandler wrote an alternate-history novel called 'Kelly Country', in which Ned Kelly led a successful revolution, and the resulting Australian Republic eventually rose to become a world power (though hindered by what became a hereditary dictatorship).
... And, yes, Mick Jagger DID play Ned Kelly in a movie. Some time in the 1970s, I think. Strange days.
Ned Kelly does still have definite status within Aussie culture, very similar to how Billy The Kid and Jesse James are commonly regarded in the USA.
Australian federation, not republic. We are a constitutional monarchy.
As an Englishman who has never been to Australia I have always been aware who Ned Kelly was but I still remember reading quite a few years ago a description by an Australian of another Australian (both of whose names escape me) which contained the words ‘and as game as Ned Kelly’ which suggests that this was used as a term of commendation!
The term 'as game Ned Kelly' is colloquial term for describing someone who displays a lot of courage and/or more particularly self belief.
I think you maybe referring to Henry Readford, known as Captain Starlight...
There was an old-school MS-Dos game that I remember playing in primary school (1990's)- I think it was called "Wanted: Ned Kelly" - and we definitely touched on Ned at multiple points during school. I would say Ned Kelly's story in my school history classes was very much that of a criminal who started down the wrong path due to circumstance but then embraced it. He did horrendous things - and not always out of necessity. And he also sometimes did really nice/good things. He also tended to use the surrounding injustice to try and justify his own brand of chaos and "justice". Kind of like a charismatic movie villain.
My great great uncle was Sir Redmond Barry, the judge that sentenced Ned Kelly to hang. Before you consider him some sort of villain, know that he is also the judge that set the leaders of the Eureka Rebellion free. Redmond was also the first chancellor of the University of Melbourne, and was the first Solicitor-General of Victoria. He was instrumental in the foundation of the Royal Melbourne Hospital (1848), the University of Melbourne (1853), and the State Library of Victoria (1854). He was the first President of the Ballarat School of Mines (1870), which later became Ballarat University and is now Federation University Australia. He chaired the committee for the Victorian Intercolonial Exhibition in Melbourne, and represented Victoria at the London International Exhibition of 1862 and at the Philadelphia Exhibition of 1876. He was made a knight bachelor in 1860, and was created a Knight Commander of the Order of St Michael and St George (KCMG) in 1877. Our family is proud of his hard work which helped change Melbourne to the wonderful place it is now.
Barry was a trinity man, he hated catholic Irish men, during the eureka trial the jury refused to convict any of the 30 , Barry was furious and reported as red faced, Kelly was just another Irish papist , read the history barry
Beveridge the E in BEV Is pronounced like E in egg. Beverage
My Great Grandmother was friends with Kate Kelly and she had letters from her that told of Ned and Dan's exploits....I remember Pappy letting me read them when l was about 8, I had to wear white glove so as not to damage them...they are in a bank somewhere for safe keeping
That's amazing! Do you remember much of what was written in those letters?
@@sunisbest1234 Only that the family were unjustly targeted by the police, my Pappy did tell me that his Mother was fond of the whole family
@@WickedestKar it would have been a very tough time being Irish under Bitish rule here.
BTW, I noticed a comment you made on the vid on slouch hats, you were Army. My dad was also. Served for 34 years. Did you do a lot of interstate moves? We sure did, back in the day. Every 2-3 years. And PNG.
@@sunisbest1234 No l was lucky enough to stay in the one place for 10 years wasn't interested in promotions just liked my job as pay/admin clerk
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I had heard of Ned Kelly but knew very little about him … now l know lots , always interesting to learn along with you guys . Thanks for all the work you put into finding and sharing such varied content 👌
My dad owns the pocket watch of the judge who sentenced Kelly to hang. I grew up in the region he is from. We mostly view him as a stand against authority but no one really idolises him.
If you're ever in Australia and want to know more, pay a visit to Beechworth. Ned spent quite a significant part of his life in the Jail there. There is a walking tour around the town (which is quite small) where you can learn more. I believe the jail is not operational but the building is still there.
you can also visit Beveridge, which is just North of Melbourne. The Kelly house (on the corner of Kelly st) has been saved from collapse in the last year or so and been turned into a nice tourist attraction.
I loved Beechworth. Neds death mask is in the little museum there. Fascinating history.
That was not a photo of Dan Kelly. Dan died a young man at Glen Rowan along with Joe Byrne and Steve Hart.
Loved watching along with you! 😊❤ yet again, another great video!
Hi, loved the reaction, my family idolises Ned Kelly, when my Mom was alive and she bought a little statue/ornament it was Ned Kelly, he's a hero for us
Ned is definitely still seen as a hero by most of the working class in Oz. There are pockets of people who think we are wrong to prop him up culturally too but the most common opinion is that he was probably a pretty good bloke who got fucked over by a corrupt government. There was also a MASSIVE amount of racism towards the Irish in that period of history which just kinda lends even more to his side to a lot of people.
we have to remember that the lawmen back in the 1880s were less than honest.
Woohoo! I was hoping you would do this and i did mention him in a comment, so thanks. Also in Australian we only know that use of 'beaver' from movies, we never use it. Yes Mick Jagger did play Ned; unfortunately. I think I mentioned earlier that both bushrangers and explorers are the most interesting part of our history. Ben Hall is another great bushranger to look at and explorers like Burke and Wills and many others have fine stories. BTW it's not Jeril-derie but Jerilderie, one syllable :)
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Yep, not the best acting by Mick J but quite a few of us find it cringingly (is that a word? 😂) funny!
Jerilderie actually has 4 syllables.
Just saying.
@@mebeme007 I know; I was just being silly; we Aussies run them all together, it is Je-ril-de-rie as well know. The guy did a good job but I expected and Aussie to be doing something like that; it doesn't matter in the end
Simon Whistler who made the ned Kelly video is amazing and I'm pretty sure his Australian writer actually wrote the story
His last words were..”so it’s come to this then…such is life”!
I really enjoyed that and it brought back memories of visiting Ned Kelly land. Thank you ladies ❤️❤️
Yeah Mick played Kelly as did Heath Ledger
Ned Kelly is still considered a hero against the English establishment and corrupt police from those times. We Aussies love a good underdog, and also anyone who fights against authority. He was hanged in the Old Melbourne Gaol, and you can view his death mask there. Most Melbourne school kids have viewed this mask and been in the old gaol, and also seen Neds iron armour at one time or another on school tours. Glenrowan, the town of the last shootout, is a lovely place and full of local memorbilia and souveniers about Ned and his gang. Ned Kelly is enshrined in our folklore and stories, as a hero bushranger that fought against the oppressing and prejudice English system. And....yes, you are right...Mick Jagger did play Ned Kelly in a movie back in the 70s or 80s....then later on, Heath Ledger also played the part.
@@bradwilliams7212 yes, they were Irish..but working for the English.
@@bradwilliams7212 Yes, they had Irish politicians and Scottish as well, but they were working under and bound by the English system that was to be followed in the colony.
@@bradwilliams7212 yes...and your point is? I feel you are desperate to make a point here...but obviously, not making one that makes sense.
Ned Kelly is kinda like the Australian Puss in Boots in the sense that he is: "To some, an outlaw. To more, a hero. To all, a Legend."
Also, could it not be said that he is also the original Iron Man?
Ned Kelly is seen as a hero of the people. Not sure if hero is the right word. A symbol against corruption. Definitely a legend. I did at least 3 school projects with him as th subject. They used to have his armour and death mask on display at the Old Melbourne Gaol.
He is seen as that. He was anything but that in reality. A thug at best, a cold blooded psychopath at worst!
@@JoelWende and hot AF!
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Meanwhile, many police officers at the time were no better, if not worse, than Ned.
Hiding behind their badges to commit all sorts of cold, callous crimes of their own towards many innocent men, women and children.
To stand up to that takes some bravery.
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You're the one disputing the facts as they legitimately were.
Perhaps it is YOU that needs to present the so-called facts as you perceive them. Instead of going around discrediting everyone that you disagree with, and then demand evidence to prove your personal opinions and theories to be wrong.
Great video ladies had heard of ned Kelly but did not know anything about him so have learnt something today
I highly recommend that you watch The man from Snowy River that’s not far from where I lived. Our high country is very wild but picturesque. ❤❤🇦🇺🐨🐨🇦🇺
John Carey has a written a great book called The True History of the Kelly Gang. It’s regarded in Australia as the most truthful account of the history of the gang.
16:07 The police that came after the gang had long leather straps indicating that they were not intending to bring back any live suspects. The gang cut these straps up and left them at the scene.
Australia has many amazing stories from the early days, as you would expect from a prison colony of the British which evolved into an independent country, with gold rushes and all the other things that coloured those time.
Quite right, Bruce! Amazing that in such a short history, this country has seen so MUCH history...both good and bad.
This was fascinating! I loved it 😁❤️
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And here's Brad again.
Either a long, very distant relative of the cops back then, or just a sad troll who is out to dispute history and argue with whoever for the sake of arguing.
On December 26th(Boxing Day) 1906, Australia premiered the first ever feature-length film in Melbourne, Australia. The film was "The Story of the Kelly Gang", the four main members of the gang were Ned, his brother Dan, friends Joe Byrne and Steve Hart. The film caused controversy by presenting th Kelly gang sympathetically.
Natasha, I love the 12yr old boy in you. I cracked up laughing at your giggle!
When I was young i regarded Ned Kelly as a national hero, in later years I read some books regarding his actions and came to the conclusion he was just your average criminal, who was happy to kill anyone who got in his way. But it's a great story. The narrator butchered the pronunciation of just about every name, so cringeworthy.😅
Far from the Robin Hood figure he is occasionally purported to be.
Plenty of people got in his way and lived to tell the story. Don't believe everything written about him that has recently been released. Most of it is from the descendants of the corrupt police that bullied the Kelly family and their neighbours.
Simon is famous for butchering names
Ned may have done some horrible things.
However, his retaliation towards the highly corrupt police of the day, was very heroic. In my opinion, at least.
After all, many police officers were hardly saints themselves. Just criminals who were no better, if not worse, than other convicted criminals. And hid behind their badges to commit many horrific crimes themselves.
@Me Be Me such a cop out. Kelly proved by his actions that he was just a common criminal and murderer.
Really interesting girlies, i remember my cousins telling me the story of Ned Kelly when we were kids. So enjoyed the video again 👏👏👏
Mick did play Ned in the movie Ned Kelly, I helped promote the movie back in the day and as a publicity stunt, I dressed up in Micks movie costume and went into a city bank carrying a rifle. I still have the photo and the newspaper clipping from the Day.
IN John Wick 4 Ian McShane mentions the famous Bush Ranges last words 'Such Is Life' at the start of the movie....
The jerilderie letter is a beauty.
If you want a great read, The True History of the Kelly Gang (its a novel), by one of our best authors, Peter Carey, is great. It was made into a movie but that didnt do too well for some reason.
When i was a kid, ned kelly was a very popular hero. The view of him is more nuanced now - primarily due to the viciousness of the stringybark killings. But pretty much everyone still thinks glenrowan was great.
I dont think this video mentioned this, but Ned took multiple shots to his armour and one to his arm before being brought down by shots to his legs, after which his guns were wrestled from him.
But a magnificent yarn
@@bradwilliams7212 kind of - its fiction with a bit of fact on the bones. Its a great read. The movie’s not great though.
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Don't mind Brad.
He's all over the comments on here, pretty much throwing out one-liners just to discredit the history of the situation altogether.
Which makes me think that Brad is (or thinks he is) related to one of the police officers at that time. Or he's just someone who jumped on here to troll and argue for the sake of arguing.
I've been reading about Ned Kelly since I was a kid. I realized one day he was not the person I thought he was when I was a kid. And although he may have ended up a champion of the underdog, he was never 'forced' into becoming an outlaw. The police even offered him a friendship of sorts and a way out in the days before her reached the point of no return. I don't know where I stand with him anymore. But he let his family and his mother down. He was a strong, good man at heart and loved and admired by many. He just could not keep his hands off horses that didn't belong to him. And his sole surviving brother James went on as a life-long bachelor to support them all until the day he died...
That's really sad
Well said.
Kelly on the whole is still seen as a folk hero. Interesting little trivia note, Ned Kelly was hung on the 11th of November - Remembrance Day
You're not nuts Natasha. Mick Jagger did indeed play Ned in a 1970 film.
Really interesting video. Every day's a school day !
Glad you enjoyed learning some of our history! If you are interested in learning more, Peter Fitzsimons is an Australian journalist who has written several books about important events in Australian history, including Ned Kelly and the Eureka Stockade - hoping you are well and happy! 🌷
Now I've worked Brad out.
He's clearly some rwnj who loves to argue for the sake of it.
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Just because you choose to label it as "rubbish", doesn't make it so.
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Name these actual "professional historians" you want to take claims from?
"Such is life"
There's debate as to whether he actually said that. No real proof either way
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.....can't let the truth get in the way of a good story 👍🏼
@@robertwilson8767 according to our other favourite criminal Uncle chop chop. 😉😅
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Ear, ear.....
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In John Wick 4, the character of Winston metions Ned Kelly, he even says Ned's quote that Ned said just before he was hanged "Such is life"
My great aunt's had family that lived down in the Glenrowan area. They said that the Kelly family were not good people. Still to this day a lot of Australians think Ned Kelly was a hero but there are lots of us who think that he is not.
Sounds like an open and shut case here. What did your aunt's dog think of him?
Ned is still a source of contention to this day.
Personally? I'm more on the side of the 'Robin Hood' analogy. After all, one of my family legends is that my great grandfather was given the honour of holding Ned's horse during his escapades at Jerilderie.
@@bradwilliams7212 His name was Peter Stevens, but he wasn't part of the extended gang, or anything like it. He was a 9 year old boy who lived in the district and was there on the day. He, according to family legend, held Ned's horse in between trick riding demonstrations that the Kelly Gang were putting on for the locals. As far as I know, my great grandad never saw Ned again. He was just part of the festivities at the time and lucked out.
Jer - ril - der - ie, not gerald dairy, lol
yeah noticed that,
My great grand mother was a BYRNE, from Goulburn nsw. She knew mrs Kelly. Joe Byrnes mother was a relative. FYI everyone, Joe Byrne actually wrote the Jerilderie letter, for Ned.He was literate he also spoke fluent Chinese
One of my school teachers was a descended from Ned Kelly, and everybody who was in his class loved him as he was so full of fun and games.
Years later I met a sweet country girl who’s name was Hart. She kept telling me that she was a “Hart”, and I had no idea what she was talking about. I finally found out she descended from Steve Hart of the Kelly Gang. I kinda felt that I was kinda privileged to have known not one but two people who were family members of people who were members of the gang. They were both really nice and very cool people as well.
@@bradwilliams7212 I didn’t claim they were direct descendants.
Comparing his to Robin Hood is a far stretch, Ned was nothing but a rogue and robber. Never gave nuthin to the poor!
7:40, yep Ned Kelly (1970 film) Starring Mick Jagger.
There is also another rendition of the story with Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom in Ned Kelly (2003 film)
This guy CANNOT pronounce Australian town names 😂😂😂
The longer version of his last words are " Ah well ,I suppose it had had to come to this . Such is Life " . To Bogan Australia, and many others , he's a hero .
G'day girls! Yes, this is a thing lol, I've had a canvas print of Ned Kelly on my wall for years, I'm a Queenslander, its travelled everywhere I've moved lol. Please look up The Eureka Stockade, and/or the Eureka Flag. Glad you had a good squizz at this, you're on the right road...history like this is one example of where our culture truly comes from hahaha! So stoked you're onto this stuff, too bloody good!! 😎👍
@@bradwilliams7212 Sounds like you're convinced you were there mate, because nobody else but you has ever been able to study history, you reckon? Probably look good for your age though (for a 😉 "normal" person anyway)...then again it could just be that random salty rage. You don't know everything, there's fellas been round the traps a hell of a lot longer than you sunshine lol...don't be a sook hahaha 🙄🤣
As a convict descendent like Ned & having heard all the stories I have come to the conclusion Kelly cared about 1 thing only, himself. A romanticised cold-blooded sociopath hiding behind a mother country cause to further his own importance. He did have a talent for oratory as well as very nice hand writing. “Guilt by Association” worries you? What’s Deb been up to? Beaveridge, hehehe.
Whatever helps you sleep at night princess. That was Joe Byrne's hand writing by the way. I wouldn't have expected you to know that though, considering the very black and white, simplistic, unlettered conclusion you have come to.
This was great. I learnt a lot from this and I am Australian. If you want to find out more about Australian history watch "Drunk history Australia". It's both funny and educational. Thanks again.
Or you could read history books.
@@petermcculloch4933 Watching someone reading a history book isnt really great for a youtube channel haha. Nice try though
Ned's mum ran a Shanty or Sly Grogg where you could buy alcohol at any unlicensed hour day or night!
A few extra bits to the Ned Kelly legend. Apparently, Ned had 30 armed men waiting just outside town. He did have an opportunity to get them and their involvement would have massively tipped the scales in the Kelly gangs, favour. But, as the story goes, Ned never went to fetch them, it is thought he couldn't bring himself to do it as he didn't want to send these men into battle.
Secondly,, the armour had something of a design flaw, he couldn't bring his arm straight out in front, the shape of the breastplate prevented this. Best Ned could do was have is arms out at angles and he fired at anyone that moved across his sightline.
Yes, Ned did a lot of bad stuff, but imagine the dystopia he was living in, where the police (made up of ex-convicts) did whatever they wanted. You grow up seeing injustices going unpunished, & hearing nothing but tales of woe from his father.
I don't see Ned so much a hero, definitely not a villain, but just as a product of his environment.
His story is iconic.
Today many people have those immortal words “Such Is Life” tattooed on themselves. There is also a cast of NKs face, taken after his hanging. It is true that he is seen sympathetically as a rebel today, and there will always be debate as to whether he was on the right or wrong side of history. I think he may have been unnecessarily persecuted. There is also a very strong Irish contingent to this story, most of the names in this narrative being of Irish descent. Who knows - perhaps there may have been certain conflicts between the faiths of the constabulary and the Kellys. Whether one thinks he was good or bad, I personally see it as a tragedy, and there were many in the founding of my wonderful country. Yes, Mick Jagger played him, as did Heath Ledger.
Definite conflict between the Irish and The English who were the Lawyers and Judges and in charge of official Government departments
Hi guys, thanks for covering this part of Aussie history. A large part of this period was that the British were Protestants and the Irish being Catholic were treated as inferior second class scum and trouble makers
We love Ned Kelly. I’ve been to his home, to the gaol where he was hanged and I’ve seen his armour. There are museums based on his life and a huge statue of him.