Quite a bit of misinformation. It’s not relying on the air in the fish to detect it. The Deeper does show your lures, sticks, anything suspended underneath it. Most helpful thing you said is that it’s heavy. Use 65lb braid and you’ll be fine. I’ve never broken off and been using them for more than 10 years.
Thanks for watching and the comment. Sonar works on picking up fish by the air in diaphragm. The bigger the arch or symbol the more is air in the diaphragm represents bigger fish. Yes sonar does pick up vegetation and other objects in the water but fish indicator is all based on air in diaphragm. There are several post on Deeper Pro explaining this. Thanks again for watching
Thanks for the comment and watching. Really you can use anything you want or can to get it out in the water. As long as you have enough line throw it out there and bring it in. That will work just as good as casting it with a rod and reel. Hope this helps. Thanks for all the support
Thanks for watching and the support. They both claim you can tell the bottom contour and bottom hardness. The Deeper is far better at doing this than the Garmin. Bottom hardness is kind of tough to figure out and takes some time to figure out. Both will pick up grass, hydrilla, and other vegetation pretty good. I found deeper will pick up more structure then Garmin. I can pickup big rocks and concrete better with Deeper. Small rocks or small piles on the bottom Deeper also does a better job on pick that up then Garmin. By far Deeper is way better than Garmin. If you are serious about a castable sonar then Deeper is the way to go. Spend some time with it and you will learn to pick up all the small contours of the bottom along with all the other stuff in a pond like logs, tree branches, vegetation, and even how hard the bottom is. You will even start to learn the difference between bass and other fish. Hope this helps. If you have any other questions let me know. Thanks
Thinking of using the deeper as a portable fish finder on remote trips. I’m a spearfishing guide and often work in very remote areas on small local fibre boats. I’m wondering if I can troll this unit behind the boat and still get a reading? Or do you think there’s an alternative portable fish finder/transducer set up that I could travel with and easily set up on one of these small fibre boats? Cheers mate epic video
Thank you for watching and the comment. Deeper pro is a way better product then Garmin Striker. Deeper is the best portable fish finder on the market. Yes you can have Deeper behind your boat as you troll and it will work. I believe it will read for over 300 feet. Deeper uses blue tooth on your phone to connect to the app. If you are in places where you don't get good phone service you will have a hard time getting it to work. From my experience the better the phone reception the better connectivity you will have with the device. This is really key since this is how the device and phone transfer data. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions please let me know. Thanks for the support.
I have the garmin striker with GPS and it's a bank fishing game changer. I've taken it to pay lakes where it's stocked with big fish and what u see is insane. I've killed it many times at pay lakes. I've caught big fish in rivers and lakes and reservoirs and dams with it.
Thanks for watching and the comment. Seems like you are locked in with using it. That's awesome. Glad to hear it. A lot cheaper then the Deeper Pro and if you are getting it done you saved yourself a ton of money with awesome results Thanks again
thanks for watching and the comment. It really comes down to money and what you are looking to do with them. If you just want to cast it out and see depths, water temp, and find fish then Garmin would be it. If you are looking to map out the whole pond or lake and what as much detail as possible then Deeper Pro. If you have the money and looking to buy the best one then Deeper Pro. Garmin is great for the price just keep in mind you won't get all the bells as Deeper Pro but you will be able to see fish. Hopes this helps. Thanks for the support
Thanks for watching and the comment. If you have the money Deeper Pro all the way. Better product and can do more. If you don't have the money and just looking to find fish and depth of the pond or lake Garmin will do the job. Hope this helps. Thanks for the support
Are you related to Clint Smith, guy who runs thunder ranch? For what it's worth, I like my deeper chirp quite a bit. I ice fish and being able to rewatch my sonar later is awesome.
Thanks for watching and the comment. No I'm not related to Clint. Don't know who that is. Deeper Chirp is solid. Can't go wrong. I do like that feature as well. Thanks again
I have both and just can’t get the fish to show up like a nice curved arch. It keeps showing little bits and dots in the water and marking them as fish. I know there are fish in the water so I can’t completely dismiss them but hard to believe the little dots are medium sized fish.
Thanks for watching and the comment. All sonars work the same they pick up air in the diaphragm. The bigger the air pocket the bigger the fish. A bunch of small arches most likely are bait fish. Bigger arches are bigger fish. Have you tried to change the setting to show fish symbols instead of the arch. That might help. On both there is a setting that you can adjust to help clarify what you are seeing. To low brings in a lot of junk and pretty much impossible to see the fish. Play around with this setting until you find what is working best or what is the clearest setting. This might be the issue. Hope this helps. Thanks again for all the support
I don't think the air in the diaphragm comment is correct, otherwise it wouldn't pick up my lure, weed, structure etc. Anything with a different density than the surrounding water should return a signal.
@@deanduffy1494 Thanks for the comment and watching. Promise me I'm correct. I've done a lot of research on this topic. How a sonar determines a fish or not is by detecting air in the diaphragm. The arcs on the sonar is the air. A bunch of small arches is bait fish. Bigger the arch the more air is detecting meaning bigger fish. Link below goes into more detail. Thanks again and appreciate the support dosits.org/people-and-sound/fishing/how-is-sound-used-to-locate-fish/#:~:text=Fish%20finders%20detect%20the%20presence,fish%20images%20on%20the%20screen.
Thanks for watching and the comment. Greatly appreciate it Not sure what you are asking. Sorry. For the Deeper Pro + and Deeper Chirp you can map a whole lake that you can look at any time. The mapping function is pretty in depth and gives good contour of the lake or pond. Is that what you are asking? Thanks again for the support
Thanks for watching and the comment. Totally agree. By far Deeper is better. Even if it was $100 difference I would chose Deeper. Way better in so many ways. Thanks again
@@ClearWater7.62 Thanks for watching and the comment. No the Deeper Pro and the Garmin are not live scope or even close. Far from it. Neither will pick up your lure moving in the water. They will pick up fish and structure. You can't watch fish move like live scope. Thanks for all the support
@GettingitDoneFishing aww thanks. I don't fish hardcore but I fish and my buddies have live scopes on their boats. I just thought it could be cool to use it in the California aquaduct.
Thanks for watching. I would double check to make sure the app is updated. Also make sure it's connected to the deeper pro. Then try again. I'm pretty sure it has to be connected to the device. If this doesn't help let me know. We will figure it out.
I bought a Garmin Striker Cast GPS and it doesn’t detect fish plus it doesn’t stop mapping when removed from the water causing it to map areas outside the water like the dock and sidewalks. In my opinion the Deeper Pro+ is a better sonar.
Thanks for watching and the comment. For me I wouldn't spend the extra money on chirp 2. I have used pro + for over 3 years and for what I do it's great. If you are just looking for a kicking product that you cast and find fish. With the ability to read structure don't spend the extra money. That's my opinion. Thanks for the support. If you have any other questions let me know
@@jmich5123 Thanks for watching and the comment. First for mapping I'm pretty good at remembering depths and contour for a pond when I'm using them But mapping is pretty good if you want to take time prior to going fishing to review the lake and get a plan on where you want to fish. Deeper Pro already has GPS built in so does the Garmin. My main use is cast and find fish. Get a general idea on where the fish are at and depth they are at. From there I start to fish. If you have the money Deeper Pro is better but Garmin is pretty good at finding fish. Hope this helps. Don't forget to subscribe. Appreciate the support.
I bought the Deeper Pro+ and the app would freeze up sometimes when the sonar would hit the water. I bought it for the bathymetric mapping but when you looked at the map on the maps deeper website the map was completely wrong. It would show the lake in buildings and the parking lot and on the docks. It’s a piece of crap.
Is the issue cell phone coverage I know sometimes I have issue connecting to the deeper pro depending on where I'm fishing. If I have bad service on my phone the deeper pro pretty much won't connect and can't do anything with it. I've had this happen in PA where I was in a really bad cell reception area couldn't get it to work. I just put it away. Deeper Pro can't work without good cell phone reception. Do you think that may be the issue? That is a draw back to it.
@@CarolineVendette Yes both work off bluetooth and need good phone reception to work properly. If your phone doesn't have reception neither will work Thanks for all the support
If you Broke your Line it's because you are Using the Wrong Line. You Should be Using at Least Braided 30 Pound Test Line. That you will not Break Off.
This was seriously the most helpful review I’ve seen. Trying to pick one of these out for a gift for my husband. Thanks so much.
No problem. Thanks for the comment and watching. Glad it helped.
If you can have your husband subscribe that would be awesome
Thanks
Quite a bit of misinformation. It’s not relying on the air in the fish to detect it. The Deeper does show your lures, sticks, anything suspended underneath it. Most helpful thing you said is that it’s heavy. Use 65lb braid and you’ll be fine. I’ve never broken off and been using them for more than 10 years.
Even Braided 30lb test will work. It would be hard to break Braided 30lb test line.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
I do use 30lb braid. Could have been back lash.
Thanks again
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Sonar works on picking up fish by the air in diaphragm. The bigger the arch or symbol the more is air in the diaphragm represents bigger fish.
Yes sonar does pick up vegetation and other objects in the water but fish indicator is all based on air in diaphragm. There are several post on Deeper Pro explaining this.
Thanks again for watching
Is it really practical to rig a whole rod for a castable sonar or jjst tie some thin paracord and launch it?
Thanks for the comment and watching.
Really you can use anything you want or can to get it out in the water. As long as you have enough line throw it out there and bring it in. That will work just as good as casting it with a rod and reel.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the support
Thanks. Are the types of bottoms (rock? mud?) indicated on both?
Thanks for watching and the support.
They both claim you can tell the bottom contour and bottom hardness.
The Deeper is far better at doing this than the Garmin. Bottom hardness is kind of tough to figure out and takes some time to figure out.
Both will pick up grass, hydrilla, and other vegetation pretty good. I found deeper will pick up more structure then Garmin. I can pickup big rocks and concrete better with Deeper. Small rocks or small piles on the bottom Deeper also does a better job on pick that up then Garmin.
By far Deeper is way better than Garmin. If you are serious about a castable sonar then Deeper is the way to go. Spend some time with it and you will learn to pick up all the small contours of the bottom along with all the other stuff in a pond like logs, tree branches, vegetation, and even how hard the bottom is.
You will even start to learn the difference between bass and other fish.
Hope this helps. If you have any other questions let me know.
Thanks
@@GettingitDoneFishing A generous answer, thanks.
Your previous vid on Deeper prompted my purchase of one from Amazon.
No problem
Glad I can help.
Please keep me posted on how things go when you get it.
Thanks again
Thinking of using the deeper as a portable fish finder on remote trips. I’m a spearfishing guide and often work in very remote areas on small local fibre boats. I’m wondering if I can troll this unit behind the boat and still get a reading? Or do you think there’s an alternative portable fish finder/transducer set up that I could travel with and easily set up on one of these small fibre boats? Cheers mate epic video
Thank you for watching and the comment.
Deeper pro is a way better product then Garmin Striker. Deeper is the best portable fish finder on the market.
Yes you can have Deeper behind your boat as you troll and it will work. I believe it will read for over 300 feet.
Deeper uses blue tooth on your phone to connect to the app. If you are in places where you don't get good phone service you will have a hard time getting it to work.
From my experience the better the phone reception the better connectivity you will have with the device. This is really key since this is how the device and phone transfer data.
I hope this helps. If you have any other questions please let me know.
Thanks for the support.
@@GettingitDoneFishing right on mate appreciate you taking the time.
@@LukaDolman No Problem good luck
I have the garmin striker with GPS and it's a bank fishing game changer. I've taken it to pay lakes where it's stocked with big fish and what u see is insane. I've killed it many times at pay lakes. I've caught big fish in rivers and lakes and reservoirs and dams with it.
Thanks for watching and the comment. Seems like you are locked in with using it. That's awesome. Glad to hear it.
A lot cheaper then the Deeper Pro and if you are getting it done you saved yourself a ton of money with awesome results
Thanks again
Garmin striker cast or deeper start?
thanks for watching and the comment.
It really comes down to money and what you are looking to do with them.
If you just want to cast it out and see depths, water temp, and find fish then Garmin would be it.
If you are looking to map out the whole pond or lake and what as much detail as possible then Deeper Pro.
If you have the money and looking to buy the best one then Deeper Pro.
Garmin is great for the price just keep in mind you won't get all the bells as Deeper Pro but you will be able to see fish.
Hopes this helps.
Thanks for the support
Hey man, great video. Would you pick deeper pro over garmin striker with gps?
Thanks for watching and the comment.
If you have the money Deeper Pro all the way. Better product and can do more. If you don't have the money and just looking to find fish and depth of the pond or lake Garmin will do the job.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the support
Are you related to Clint Smith, guy who runs thunder ranch? For what it's worth, I like my deeper chirp quite a bit. I ice fish and being able to rewatch my sonar later is awesome.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
No I'm not related to Clint. Don't know who that is.
Deeper Chirp is solid. Can't go wrong. I do like that feature as well.
Thanks again
@@GettingitDoneFishing look him up, he's a awesome guy.
Awesome will do. Thanks for the recommendation
I have both and just can’t get the fish to show up like a nice curved arch. It keeps showing little bits and dots in the water and marking them as fish. I know there are fish in the water so I can’t completely dismiss them but hard to believe the little dots are medium sized fish.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
All sonars work the same they pick up air in the diaphragm. The bigger the air pocket the bigger the fish. A bunch of small arches most likely are bait fish. Bigger arches are bigger fish.
Have you tried to change the setting to show fish symbols instead of the arch. That might help.
On both there is a setting that you can adjust to help clarify what you are seeing. To low brings in a lot of junk and pretty much impossible to see the fish. Play around with this setting until you find what is working best or what is the clearest setting. This might be the issue.
Hope this helps.
Thanks again for all the support
I don't think the air in the diaphragm comment is correct, otherwise it wouldn't pick up my lure, weed, structure etc. Anything with a different density than the surrounding water should return a signal.
@@deanduffy1494 Thanks for the comment and watching.
Promise me I'm correct. I've done a lot of research on this topic.
How a sonar determines a fish or not is by detecting air in the diaphragm. The arcs on the sonar is the air. A bunch of small arches is bait fish. Bigger the arch the more air is detecting meaning bigger fish.
Link below goes into more detail.
Thanks again and appreciate the support
dosits.org/people-and-sound/fishing/how-is-sound-used-to-locate-fish/#:~:text=Fish%20finders%20detect%20the%20presence,fish%20images%20on%20the%20screen.
Can you map the positions to get curvature lines?
Thanks for watching and the comment. Greatly appreciate it
Not sure what you are asking. Sorry.
For the Deeper Pro + and Deeper Chirp you can map a whole lake that you can look at any time. The mapping function is pretty in depth and gives good contour of the lake or pond.
Is that what you are asking?
Thanks again for the support
Great review, it helped me make a decision, thanks.
Thanks for letting me know. Always great to hear a video helped another angler.
Thanks for your support.
Keep the lines tight
Deeper is only $50 more than the Garmin atm, easy choice thanks for the in-depth review.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Totally agree. By far Deeper is better. Even if it was $100 difference I would chose Deeper. Way better in so many ways.
Thanks again
Do these also work as live scopes?
@@ClearWater7.62
Thanks for watching and the comment.
No the Deeper Pro and the Garmin are not live scope or even close. Far from it.
Neither will pick up your lure moving in the water.
They will pick up fish and structure. You can't watch fish move like live scope.
Thanks for all the support
@GettingitDoneFishing aww thanks. I don't fish hardcore but I fish and my buddies have live scopes on their boats. I just thought it could be cool to use it in the California aquaduct.
@@ClearWater7.62
It would pretty awesome if they made something like that for bank fishing.
Thanks again for the comment and support
My deeper Pro + app doesn’t open up to settings screen. I can’t do bathymetric mapping.
Thanks for watching.
I would double check to make sure the app is updated. Also make sure it's connected to the deeper pro. Then try again. I'm pretty sure it has to be connected to the device.
If this doesn't help let me know.
We will figure it out.
Who is better?
Deeper Pro by far.
Thanks for watching and the comment
Can you use Garmin for an Android phone? Tnx
Thanks for watching and the support
Yes you can use either Garmin or Deeper on a Android phone.
Thanks again
I bought a Garmin Striker Cast GPS and it doesn’t detect fish plus it doesn’t stop mapping when removed from the water causing it to map areas outside the water like the dock and sidewalks.
In my opinion the Deeper Pro+ is a better sonar.
Same thing happened to me.
Thanks again for all the support
Thanks for the great info!
Thanks for the comment and continued support.
You are my favorite subscriber.
Much Love
Interesting and honest content
Thanks for watching and the comment
Greatly appreciate the support
Can you help me decide now pro + is like 180 and pro +2 300 both got gps but chirp 2 without gps is 250. Any ideas
Thanks for watching and the comment.
For me I wouldn't spend the extra money on chirp 2.
I have used pro + for over 3 years and for what I do it's great.
If you are just looking for a kicking product that you cast and find fish. With the ability to read structure don't spend the extra money.
That's my opinion.
Thanks for the support.
If you have any other questions let me know
@GettingitDoneFishing thanks alot for coming back to me I put an order for it I fish from pier and sometimes in small bay so hope it will help
@@ib1306 Cool
Glad I could help.
Keep in touch and let me know how it works out for you.
@@GettingitDoneFishing. Is GPS worth having, how is mapping?
@@jmich5123 Thanks for watching and the comment.
First for mapping I'm pretty good at remembering depths and contour for a pond when I'm using them But mapping is pretty good if you want to take time prior to going fishing to review the lake and get a plan on where you want to fish.
Deeper Pro already has GPS built in so does the Garmin.
My main use is cast and find fish. Get a general idea on where the fish are at and depth they are at. From there I start to fish.
If you have the money Deeper Pro is better but Garmin is pretty good at finding fish.
Hope this helps.
Don't forget to subscribe. Appreciate the support.
Always helpful stuff brother! Keep being awesome!
Thanks! Will do!
I bought the Deeper Pro+ and the app would freeze up sometimes when the sonar would hit the water. I bought it for the bathymetric mapping but when you looked at the map on the maps deeper website the map was completely wrong. It would show the lake in buildings and the parking lot and on the docks. It’s a piece of crap.
Is the issue cell phone coverage
I know sometimes I have issue connecting to the deeper pro depending on where I'm fishing. If I have bad service on my phone the deeper pro pretty much won't connect and can't do anything with it. I've had this happen in PA where I was in a really bad cell reception area couldn't get it to work. I just put it away.
Deeper Pro can't work without good cell phone reception.
Do you think that may be the issue?
That is a draw back to it.
@@GettingitDoneFishing would you have that problem with the Garmin as well?
@@CarolineVendette
Yes both work off bluetooth and need good phone reception to work properly.
If your phone doesn't have reception neither will work
Thanks for all the support
Garmin cast is around $120 @ Cabelas and Deeper Pro+ is $170 and it comes with a kayak mount @ Dick's sporting goods
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Greatly appreciate the support
If you Broke your Line it's because you are Using the Wrong Line. You Should be Using at Least Braided 30 Pound Test Line. That you will not Break Off.
Thanks for the update.
This year I'm moving to 60lb braid for it.
Thanks again