Dutch sense of humour is great, and very similar to British. That's why the Dutch love British comedy. Dutch comedy is also great. Brigitte Kaandorp is the funniest woman in the world. I learned a lot of Dutch by binge watching her RUclips videos.
Another Jovie's home video....YEEEAAAAHHH!!!! "Do you want to be friends" translates best into "Wil je vrienden worden" , because "Laten wij vrienden zijn" is actually almost word for word "Let's be friends" Not to criticize you at any point, but just to help out English native speakers to grow more accustomed to the weird and difficult language that is called Dutch. On all the point you've given here I say : HEAR HEAR...because you are on point! There are still some things I'd like to go a bit in depth about: -Dutch Humor is a 180 switch from the normal serious no-nonsense side we practice in daily life.......we do not take anything (ourselves coming up first) serious when we are joking around. -Speaking to a doctor/physician/psychiatrist is all about the stats you are dealing with to get to a direct and immediate constructive way to deal with your problem. -The money thing....yeah...most people are not interested or even intimidated when you go around flashing what you've got...although the social media among the younger population of the Netherlands is very much so imitating other parts of this world where flashing your wealth is top of the bill..... -That last one....YAAAAASSSSS!!! That is Dutch culture captivated in 6 words: "BE RESPOSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SHIT" I today got told off I should not ride my bike in a specific area ( I didn't know of) and I stepped down my bike because of that. It is as easy as that!! Thank you for this video! It will make people more aware how to 'please' Dutchies...LOL Oh and another thing: I think your skincare and your makeup looks better and better each video!
I appreciate your advice and thoughts. And thank you for being someone who could just listen and not make things more difficult. If only more people were like you! And thank you for the compliments! ❤
The list is spot on. Here in the USA, people are mostly "fake" compared to the Dutch. One of the hardest things for me to get used, coming from The Netherlands. People here have some issues with my bluntness/honesty at times. And your accent is very cute by the way. I love it. I hope you dont lose too much of that 😇😉
I had the same experience. My primary physician actually likes it (makes her job a lot easier), but directness isn't always appreciated except during debates. In general they do like things sugar coated.. Most people get accustomed to my directness and some of my employees also pick it up once they realize that meetings go a lot quicker when everybody comes straight to the point. I usually start the meeting with a quick who are you and how are you round and after that it is all business. I did notice that around the country side they mostly like honestly, city folks in general want a spin on it..
The Dutch practicality and openess is the reason why many Dutch people don't understand American politics where logic, practicality and openess have flown out of the window in 1984 with the Reagan campaign and never came back.
It would be great if there was a show explaining American politics from the point of view of a Dutch person. Maybe you can make a youtube channel about this.
Jovie!! I’ve been watching you for about a year and a half now! And just wanted to say thank you for all these great videos! And I wanted to tell you that Im finally moving to The Netherlands! And I couldn’t be happier! Thank you soo much for all the great tips! I leave mid Dec!
@Matthew Millsaps-Brewer whaaat really!!!! Wow!!!! Dude huge congrats!!! I know how tough it can be! But it’s also suuuper exciting!!! I wake up everyday with just! Ahhhhh!!! I can’t wait!
@Matthew Millsaps-Brewer you guys crack me up, how funny that you are all converging here, welcome in advance to you both. Maybe you should keep in touch and help each other through the cold beginning before making Dutch friends. It can be lonely when you've been looking forward to a move and reality hits.
About number 6, we have a phrase: "doe maar normaal dan doe je al gek genoeg" meaning "Just be normal, then you are crazy enough". Just be yourself and it's fine.
Another phrase is: ‘steek je kop niet boven het maaiveld’ (or it will be chopped off😆) And Google Jante’s Law, that’s Scandinavian, but very very very similar to the Dutch mentality
Doesn't matter who likes me but who I like, and that's Daan and you and your videos. They are such a joy to watch. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us that watch your informative channel. Outstanding job young lady. Well done. Thanks
Hi Jovie! Thank you for this! I'm American and very interested in learning about Dutch culture. Many things you have shared validate an innate intuition I have had about them, so thank you! One thing I've heard is that they LOVE to receive greeting cards. Also, that they are extremely blunt. I think what you said - that they are honest - is more accurate, because as we know, Americans can be direct without necessarily being authentic (truthful/honest)
No 6 needs to be adopted everywhere. In English speaking countries if you meet someone at a party the first thing you want to know about them is what they do for a living. This is so that you can assess how much they earn and how far above or below you they are in the food chain. Here no-one give a s**t, which is so much nicer. (I was in a club with this really nice guy, and it was ages before I found out he was a judge.)
Thats not completely true, depends on what kind of social event you go to, often its just a conversation starter if its someone who is completely new to you and its in a formal setting, especially if its not a social event for people with similar interests etc but no, i wouldn't be as judgy to assume that if someone who speaks Native English asks you what you do for a living its to judge you lol. (I'd also disagree that no one here gives a shit, i've been involved in some pretty awkward situations where people have been outright judgy regarding peoples careers and supposed lack of ambition, so whilst it may not be as common as a first opening question, I disagree that it doesn't matter completely)
@@tarquinmidwinter2056 but i would say that its not remotely true outside of the minority, as the majority of people have very mundane jobs..these things are much more common amongst older generations and in very specific social status's/class but for the average person which is the majority, that's not true.. i guess its more of a stereotype based on TV than a generalisation as a generalisation would have to include at least close to a majority.
Very interesting discussion going on here. I often ask people what they do for a job as “small talk” during a party. It’s a way I try to find connection between me and the other person. “Oh you’re a teacher? How cool, I have kids in school.” Or “oh you work at Kruidvat !? It’s one of my favorite shops! What’s it like working there?” For me, it’s just a way to find things out about a new person without being too intrusive. I guess culturally, in NL speaking about jobs is seen differently. Interesting to see this!
@@JoviesHome hahaha It's actually a joke/saying. The tumble down the stairs wounded your hair. So if someone jokingly says he/she fell from the stairs it'll be about their haircut😅
And so we don’t feel as bad when we sometimes have to say something in Dutch while in company of an expat ^_^ If we know you understand something a little we know you won’t think we’re talking badly about you ;p
I think our culture is very efficiency based. Don't think as a (former) immigrant you are the only one sometimes having trouble with Dutch directness. Sometimes it feels hurtfull when someone says something to you, but that is usually a sign that you or I are nog receiving the message which was directed to you and you should suck up indeed and get back to that person about it (but sometimes it is just an eikel, as is probably everywhere around the world). Feel free to cry at a doctor when it is your real emotion. If it is a good doctor, he/she will take notice of it and include it into the solution of your problem. But if you are doing it only to get something done, than that might conflict with our need for efficiency (roughly ranslated to honesty when it comes to our behavior I think). The Dutch on average expect you to express yourself by who you really are, whoever you are, and that takes some (figurative) balls, because then next time they can take your response in consideration to make working together or the end result better. I as a Dutch person also sometimes have a challenge there, but I then just have to be courageous enough to say what I think at that moment.
@@JoviesHome Nice to see a reaction. i think that indeed is what is important here in the Netherlands, but me as a born and raised Dutch person also have to suck up sometimes, so don't think this is natural to all the Dutch born and raised citizens and can only be challeging in certain situations if you moved here. Big respect by the way for taking the brave decision to leave the law for something else that you are passionate about.
I’ve just come back home after being in the Netherlands for a month, I’m already missing all the things you talked about. Another thing I think that Dutch people like is non Dutch people attempting to speak Dutch, which is for Dutch people, like listening to pidgin-Dutch
Last week I was walking my dog and there was a man walking in front of me dropping candy wrappers (littering)on the ground. I picked it up and said sorry sir you dropped something as if he lost something valuable he might not want to lose. I guess he then pretended that he was thankful and put it back in his pocket! I hate littering it's so unnecessary and makes an area not pleasant to be in.
Nice way to say it , but don´t they have street cleaning in NL ? That´s what they are for, sure littering isn´t a good thing, but who is a stranger to tell someone else what to do?...
Great video. Comes down to practicing common sense and social /individual responsibility. If we all do this, imagine how much happier we'd all be and with fewer issues.
Hi! I just found your channel and I just wanted to say your voice is really nice to listen to. Sometimes I feel like youtubers are screaming at the camera, you just talk. Love that.
Don't be late The dutch like to come on time. And if you can't make IT on time ring with your phone too say that you are going too be late. Love your show Ga zo verder ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Number 2: "voor de draad ermee", "draai er niet omheen", "recht voor zijn raap" are just some of the sayings to have people speak their mind.... If there are so many ways to say it you know it's important.
Ik schrijf dit voor ik je video heb gezien. Ik ben een jordanees een 100% Nederlandse... ik accepteer je precies zoals je bent, als je je echte ik laat zien. Hie gek of braaf maakt dan niet uit. Gewoon jezelf precies zoals je bent. Nu ga ik je video bekijken. Dikke zoen
If you really wanna fit in, in Dutch culture. Don’t forget to keep a calendar in your bathroom. You will automatically score brownie points with any new Dutch guests! Lol! No for real though
ey i watch you for a while now and this old vid just popped up and i just realized something! How can you forget our punctuality :D We said lets meet at 9, not 915 :D Being on time should def be a numbero uno in my book
Random! I was just on Tram 16 going through DH around 1:30 today (19/10) and I think I saw you sitting on a bench. 😂😂 I thought hey she looks familiar!
Goedemorgen Jovie, Definitely to learn the language even if Just the basics, when i was working from Poeldijk I was taught some bits and was told that people would appreciate it and they did for sure, id like to be able to learn more, i guess it's easier when you're living there,
Great video again, so true, the directness and humor is also found in New York a city where most people from Amsterdam or Haarlem would instantly feel at home, The same kind of the New York humor is also found in Amsterdam (or is it the other way around ?). f.i. if someone F***sup you could say: wonderfully done, like a star. (or in Dutch geweldig... Ster ) and the person in question would not be offended, and laugh with the one who said it (and have learned not to do that again.. ever).
Dear Jovie and all other foreigners, the points are correct but it is not ok. You guys dont need to change to get liked!!! Be yourself, dont act and dont change. We have to respect everyonethe way they are, everyone is good enough ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎
I really don't understand that companies can succeed when employees aren't allowed to give their opinion on how things can be improved or what's going wrong. Are there really any (successful) businesses where the boss/CEO/owner makes all the decisions and employees just do what they're told? I only worked in just one company like that in the Netherlands ever and they went bankrupt just a few months later.
A bit similar to that: I read a book about the dangers of positive thinking. Sounds weird, but it's kind of the same dynamic: there's a company, and every employee that goes like "well, maybe this can go wrong, what if..." gets scolded, like "why are you so nEgATiVe?!" So nobody ever thinks about a plan B and when shit does go wrong, nobody saw it coming.
It's just a matter of culture. Such a company wouldn't succeed in the Netherlands, but might, in countries where that approach fits the culture better. In fact, I have worked with large companies in India that really, really, didn't understand our Dutch approach of everyone having his/her say about it (and in fact, seemed unsettled by it). Where employees were indeed expected to exactly do what they were told and leave any independent decision making to their superiors, who would never be questioned after they'd said it had to be 'x' and not 'y'.
@@RH-ro3sgYes, it's a matter of culture wether companies listen to advice and complaints of employees. It's not a matter of culture that the people who do the actual work are the ones that see first and most what's going wrong or what can be improved. They experience the reality of management decisions every day.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Agree to that. I _also_ noticed that 'we' seemed way more effective than 'them' in terms of output per head, and it probably had to do something with that. But that metric might not be that important (yet) in a country where you have a lot of people in a lot of low wage jobs. It might become more so when wages rise there (which I think will happen). But right now, their approach apparently works for them,
I sound so Dutch. LOL I'm never going to walk in the bicycle lane. I will get my butt ran over. I'm never flashy with money. I have a big house. I raised a bunch of kids. Now I have my grandkids so much. During holidays the kids all come home, bring spouses & my grandkids. I don't buy the flashy stuff. I look for quality and bargains. Never cry at the doctors. I feel that it's disgusting. Everybody says I'm funny. I know my sense of humor has gotten me through a lot!
Not even Dutch Marine Corps instructors yell at recruits. Other than some special occasions perhaps. Yelling just has no other meaning than someone just being a loudmouth in the Netherlands.
Ti Jovie do you know Serbian language? I heard you have a good accent when you pronounce some serbian dishes. Love watching your videos, you have a very good entertainment content. Keep on going!
@@JoviesHome Znaci vi ste Srpkinja ili sam nesto pobrkao ovde? Ja vec zivim 45 god ovde tako da imate vremena da naucite Holandski, najvaznije kad ih pozoves na veceru i sve je gratis onda ima da te zavole.
What does a dog do to get attention? Make loads of noise is one way. I think that if Vinnie could speak he would be saying "Make a video about me! I want to be the star of the show!"
For sure I thought starting a RUclips Channel about living in The Netherlands (and winning awards with it!) would on your list. I would add one more thing to your list: you will get huge respect if you try to speak Dutch. For sure we will correct you, if necessary (like we are doing in the comments below me), but trust me, it will go over big if you at least try. Maybe read on our (long) history, learn the National Anthem (the oldest in the world by the way) for extra points, but trying to learn Dutch is a big thing. Especially if you live here for a long time (years). What was wrong with the dog? By the way
Those are some good tips, thanks! And about my dog, there's nothing wrong. he has sneezing fits sometimes. Or he barks at anyone walking past the house. He is completely healthy!
So maybe you can help me understand why Dutchies always reply to me in English when I speak in Dutch? I'm putting a lot of effort into learning and speaking Dutch. Do I just need to say "kun je me in het Nederlands spreken?" Thanks for any ideas you can suggest.
@@kturquet - because we think very little of our own language. If a foreigner comes here, we try to speak anthing, except our own language and when we are on holiday we also adapt our selves and try to speak the native language. - It could partly be a state of mind of the person living in the Netherlands. Because we Dutch like to adapt ourselves it is easier to keep talking in Engish. I had a collega who actually refused to speak English. As a result his Dutch was really good. - Also I think we are worried we don't get our point across. I have a Polish couple as friends for at least 12 years, I never had 1 conversation in Dutch. It makes communcating so much easier. - Maybe the expat doesn't like to be corrected all the time, when in fact we are trying to help the other person. A collega of mine even refused to speak Dutch in front of me, because I was a Grammarnazi as he descript me. He had point there, I corrected his English aswell. Or all of the above. Do you find it difficult to keep a conversation in Dutch?
@@kturquet ; Dutch people are very into efficiency.. and maybe too much ;-) So if you stumble with Dutch words or grammar they will LOVE to show they can talk English. It is also because we know Dutch is such a small language and difficult. HOWEVER: YES please keep telling people: "Dank je wel om Engels te willen spreken maar kunnen we Nederlands spreken? Ik wil graag mijn Nederlands verbeteren :) "
@@mauricedorreboom5388 This is very helpful. Dank je wel! I don't live in the Netherlands yet but hope to soon. In the meantime I'll keep working on my Dutch and improving my accent. I think I will just refuse to speak English at some point and see how that goes or simply ask the other person to use Dutch since the direct approach is appreciated. I don't mind correction at all and would love it if my boyfriend corrected my Dutch more. I have made quick progress since I speak German as well (and French). Thanks!
0:41 Actually, "laten we vrienden zijn" translates to "let's be friends." Also, you raise the pitch of your voice at the end as if it's a question...? 4:54 Bless you, Vinnie. 5:01 Bless you, Vinnie. 7:06 Vinnie reminds me of our dog Sjors. Sjors can be inside and barking at people who are just walking by. 8:23 This reminds me of when you talked about the different way Dutch people handle money. 9:32 Oops! I do hope this is not going to get you in trouble.
I have really a problem with the 3e one. I know that this is indeed true and that dutch people always want you to make jokes all the time. But you know...i dont wanne be funny al the time. Dutch people want you to be always fun and light. Even if you are having a hard time with something or have experience someting bad. I really have a problem with that. I dont always wanne be funny. I am not a robot. Sometimes i just wanne be angry or sad if i feel so. I dont wanne be a funny clown if i feel really sad about something.
In Australia as a teen learned cricket and during the cooler months footy or rugby depending on the state you live in. Apart from that don't be a dickhead literally (l*llenkop) aka as kl**tzak. English English, Euro English, Kiwi English or American English won't do you better pick up the local jargon. By the way accents nowadays are tolerated but.......... End with a Dutch saying I used my whole life. Wie goed doet goed ontmoet. Favours will be returned.😁
I have always loved dutch humor and dutch comedians ( Toon Hermans, Wim Kann, Wim Sonneveld, Leen Jongewaard, Andre Van Duyn and many others), I was brought up with it as a kid, in a time we flemish people still watched dutch tv (before we had decent, less prudish and politically controlled tv over here and before big bucks locked down lots of free access to foreign channels). We flemish are seen as very direct by our french speaking citizens...but still I will never get used to the kind of very direct, hurtful and often insulting humor you so clearly describe in this video, it lacks politeness and consideration for others.
@@JoviesHome 😂 i just saw the vid going online and then i saw i was first, then i typed i was first and i think there was a glitch because RUclips didn't show what i typed.... 🙂 but yes, it felt pretty special.
LOL : "And it's not a bad thing... none of these things are bad things. I'm just comparing ... you know, you guys know the dril, yeah. Like if you're new to my channel , erm....... Hi !. "
When you live in a village, mostly no problems. But when you live in a city, close to each other, having a rooster in your backyard is not a good way to make friends.
Yes, for some reason city people are allergic to sounds from animals. While I love to wake up hearing al the birds outside. But I live at the edge of town.
Well, I've heard a lot of cyclists complain about tourists that do walk in the bicycle lane. But you're probably right about places with less or no tourists. As Dutch people know not to walk in the bicycle lanes.
Did I get the list right? Did I miss something?! What do YOU like about Dutch people?! Please tell me 👇in the comments! Thanks for being here ❤
Yo Jovie, long time no see ! You are doing well i see... i'm glad !
Doe maar normaal dan doe je al gek genoeg......🤣
When a strange or funny situation occurs and you and someone else withness it. Dont be afraid to share it with eachother or to comment on it.
Invest in a friendship. The trick is not to make a friendship but to keep a friendship
@@chouchou7977 When investing do remember: Behaalde resultaten uit het verleden bieden geen garantie voor de toekomst! 😉
Dutch sense of humour is great, and very similar to British. That's why the Dutch love British comedy. Dutch comedy is also great. Brigitte Kaandorp is the funniest woman in the world. I learned a lot of Dutch by binge watching her RUclips videos.
That's a great way to learn, watching funny videos!
"Ik heb een heeeeeel zwaaaaaar leeeevuuuhhhhh..." 🤣
Another Jovie's home video....YEEEAAAAHHH!!!!
"Do you want to be friends" translates best into "Wil je vrienden worden" , because "Laten wij vrienden zijn" is actually almost word for word "Let's be friends"
Not to criticize you at any point, but just to help out English native speakers to grow more accustomed to the weird and difficult language that is called Dutch.
On all the point you've given here I say : HEAR HEAR...because you are on point!
There are still some things I'd like to go a bit in depth about:
-Dutch Humor is a 180 switch from the normal serious no-nonsense side we practice in daily life.......we do not take anything (ourselves coming up first) serious when we are joking around.
-Speaking to a doctor/physician/psychiatrist is all about the stats you are dealing with to get to a direct and immediate constructive way to deal with your problem.
-The money thing....yeah...most people are not interested or even intimidated when you go around flashing what you've got...although the social media among the younger population of the Netherlands is very much so imitating other parts of this world where flashing your wealth is top of the bill.....
-That last one....YAAAAASSSSS!!! That is Dutch culture captivated in 6 words: "BE RESPOSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SHIT" I today got told off I should not ride my bike in a specific area ( I didn't know of) and I stepped down my bike because of that. It is as easy as that!!
Thank you for this video! It will make people more aware how to 'please' Dutchies...LOL
Oh and another thing: I think your skincare and your makeup looks better and better each video!
I appreciate your advice and thoughts. And thank you for being someone who could just listen and not make things more difficult. If only more people were like you! And thank you for the compliments! ❤
The list is spot on. Here in the USA, people are mostly "fake" compared to the Dutch. One of the hardest things for me to get used, coming from The Netherlands. People here have some issues with my bluntness/honesty at times.
And your accent is very cute by the way. I love it. I hope you dont lose too much of that 😇😉
I had the same experience. My primary physician actually likes it (makes her job a lot easier), but directness isn't always appreciated except during debates.
In general they do like things sugar coated..
Most people get accustomed to my directness and some of my employees also pick it up once they realize that meetings go a lot quicker when everybody comes straight to the point.
I usually start the meeting with a quick who are you and how are you round and after that it is all business.
I did notice that around the country side they mostly like honestly, city folks in general want a spin on it..
Me also. Although i " warned " my US collegues, i can be blunt in their eyes, they still had to get adjusted.
The cultures are just so different! Thanks for the compliment. Accents are very hard things to lose!
Not sure what part of the states you are at, but people there can be very blunt and direct...
Get them oliebollen. That should do the trick. This would also work on me and I am not even Dutch.
The Dutch practicality and openess is the reason why many Dutch people don't understand American politics where logic, practicality and openess have flown out of the window in 1984 with the Reagan campaign and never came back.
It would be great if there was a show explaining American politics from the point of view of a Dutch person. Maybe you can make a youtube channel about this.
@@JoviesHome i believe Greg Shapiro does this!!!
Yeah .... Nixon was GREAT!
Jovie!! I’ve been watching you for about a year and a half now! And just wanted to say thank you for all these great videos! And I wanted to tell you that Im finally moving to The Netherlands! And I couldn’t be happier! Thank you soo much for all the great tips!
I leave mid Dec!
There goes the neighbourhood. This is humor :-))
But, your welcome.
@@JacobBax Hahahah
@Matthew Millsaps-Brewer whaaat really!!!! Wow!!!! Dude huge congrats!!! I know how tough it can be! But it’s also suuuper exciting!!! I wake up everyday with just! Ahhhhh!!! I can’t wait!
@Matthew Millsaps-Brewer you guys crack me up, how funny that you are all converging here, welcome in advance to you both. Maybe you should keep in touch and help each other through the cold beginning before making Dutch friends. It can be lonely when you've been looking forward to a move and reality hits.
Let us know if we can help with anything?
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The best way to concude it all is; doe maar gewoon, dan doe je al gek genoeg 😉
I wish number 6 was the norm in every country!
I love Jovie’s humor and charisma. Very infectious.
Thank you for item 3, the humor! And: your dog has excellent timing in audio-bombing 🥰
Hi! I just want to say that your English is so understandable and easy to listen for me as for a non english speaker! Thank you))
About number 6, we have a phrase: "doe maar normaal dan doe je al gek genoeg" meaning "Just be normal, then you are crazy enough". Just be yourself and it's fine.
I like that phrase! That is a good one. Thanks for sharing!
Another phrase is: ‘steek je kop niet boven het maaiveld’ (or it will be chopped off😆)
And Google Jante’s Law, that’s Scandinavian, but very very very similar to the Dutch mentality
"niet doen!" 😂 That cracked me up haha 😁Loved this video, spot on 👍👍
Doesn't matter who likes me but who I like, and that's Daan and you and your videos. They are such a joy to watch. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us that watch your informative channel. Outstanding job young lady. Well done. Thanks
Thank you so much, Edward! ❤
Not sucking up: Love the new hairdo!
Youre presenting in a fun and inclusive way. Well done.
Hi Jovie!
Thank you for this!
I'm American and very interested in learning about Dutch culture.
Many things you have shared validate an innate intuition I have had about them, so thank you!
One thing I've heard is that they LOVE to receive greeting cards.
Also, that they are extremely blunt.
I think what you
said - that they are honest - is more accurate, because as we know, Americans can be direct without necessarily being authentic (truthful/honest)
I love the Dutch humor. Dry and playful.
It's great! It does take some time to get used to it!
No 6 needs to be adopted everywhere. In English speaking countries if you meet someone at a party the first thing you want to know about them is what they do for a living. This is so that you can assess how much they earn and how far above or below you they are in the food chain. Here no-one give a s**t, which is so much nicer. (I was in a club with this really nice guy, and it was ages before I found out he was a judge.)
This is a generic assumption that every single culture in English speaking countries is the same. It's just not, that is ridiculous.
Thats not completely true, depends on what kind of social event you go to, often its just a conversation starter if its someone who is completely new to you and its in a formal setting, especially if its not a social event for people with similar interests etc but no, i wouldn't be as judgy to assume that if someone who speaks Native English asks you what you do for a living its to judge you lol. (I'd also disagree that no one here gives a shit, i've been involved in some pretty awkward situations where people have been outright judgy regarding peoples careers and supposed lack of ambition, so whilst it may not be as common as a first opening question, I disagree that it doesn't matter completely)
@@betht7414 It's a generalisation, and I'll admit that no generalisations are 100% true.
@@tarquinmidwinter2056 but i would say that its not remotely true outside of the minority, as the majority of people have very mundane jobs..these things are much more common amongst older generations and in very specific social status's/class but for the average person which is the majority, that's not true.. i guess its more of a stereotype based on TV than a generalisation as a generalisation would have to include at least close to a majority.
Very interesting discussion going on here. I often ask people what they do for a job as “small talk” during a party. It’s a way I try to find connection between me and the other person. “Oh you’re a teacher? How cool, I have kids in school.” Or “oh you work at Kruidvat !? It’s one of my favorite shops! What’s it like working there?”
For me, it’s just a way to find things out about a new person without being too intrusive. I guess culturally, in NL speaking about jobs is seen differently. Interesting to see this!
Jovie felt from the stairs, thats dutch for Jovie has a new haircut!
That's an interesting translation! It sounds dangerous!
@@JoviesHome hahaha It's actually a joke/saying. The tumble down the stairs wounded your hair. So if someone jokingly says he/she fell from the stairs it'll be about their haircut😅
8. Learn the language. While most people speak English, we love to see an effort.
And so we don’t feel as bad when we sometimes have to say something in Dutch while in company of an expat ^_^ If we know you understand something a little we know you won’t think we’re talking badly about you ;p
I think our culture is very efficiency based. Don't think as a (former) immigrant you are the only one sometimes having trouble with Dutch directness. Sometimes it feels hurtfull when someone says something to you, but that is usually a sign that you or I are nog receiving the message which was directed to you and you should suck up indeed and get back to that person about it (but sometimes it is just an eikel, as is probably everywhere around the world).
Feel free to cry at a doctor when it is your real emotion. If it is a good doctor, he/she will take notice of it and include it into the solution of your problem. But if you are doing it only to get something done, than that might conflict with our need for efficiency (roughly ranslated to honesty when it comes to our behavior I think). The Dutch on average expect you to express yourself by who you really are, whoever you are, and that takes some (figurative) balls, because then next time they can take your response in consideration to make working together or the end result better. I as a Dutch person also sometimes have a challenge there, but I then just have to be courageous enough to say what I think at that moment.
It looks like the thing to take away from this is that every emotion, as long as it is real and genuine matters. Thanks for sharing this.
@@JoviesHome Nice to see a reaction. i think that indeed is what is important here in the Netherlands, but me as a born and raised Dutch person also have to suck up sometimes, so don't think this is natural to all the Dutch born and raised citizens and can only be challeging in certain situations if you moved here.
Big respect by the way for taking the brave decision to leave the law for something else that you are passionate about.
Your hair is so pretty! Know this is an old video, but soooo pretty!
I’ve just come back home after being in the Netherlands for a month, I’m already missing all the things you talked about. Another thing I think that Dutch people like is non Dutch people attempting to speak Dutch, which is for Dutch people, like listening to pidgin-Dutch
Last week I was walking my dog and there was a man walking in front of me dropping candy wrappers (littering)on the ground. I picked it up and said sorry sir you dropped something as if he lost something valuable he might not want to lose. I guess he then pretended that he was thankful and put it back in his pocket! I hate littering it's so unnecessary and makes an area not pleasant to be in.
Nice way to say it , but don´t they have street cleaning in NL ? That´s what they are for, sure littering isn´t a good thing, but who is a stranger to tell someone else what to do?...
Great video. Comes down to practicing common sense and social /individual responsibility. If we all do this, imagine how much happier we'd all be and with fewer issues.
Hi! I just found your channel and I just wanted to say your voice is really nice to listen to. Sometimes I feel like youtubers are screaming at the camera, you just talk. Love that.
Don't be late
The dutch like to come on time.
And if you can't make IT on time ring with your phone
too say that you are going too be late.
Love your show
Ga zo verder ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You are very like-able anyway so it is easy!!! 😇🥰 Love your hair and top btw!!! ❤
Thank you so much!
Number 2: "voor de draad ermee", "draai er niet omheen", "recht voor zijn raap" are just some of the sayings to have people speak their mind.... If there are so many ways to say it you know it's important.
A world full of Jovie's would be such a joyful place...
In this video. The sounds soooooo gooddddd🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤❤❤❤
Word of the day: hatsjoe. Bless you, gezondheid.
Appreciate their history.
That's a good one, thanks.
You are speaking better. Not so soft and slow, more pleasing to the ears. 🥰
Thank you!
@number 5: the Dutch word of the day will be "aanstelleritus".
I always thought it was spelled "aanstelleritis", like a disease.
@@MrEric1947 you are true, it is a disease!
Great video! Maybe it was a coincidence, but my neighboors started not hating us when we got flowers for the balcony....
They really take their flowers seriously here, don't they!
@@JoviesHome They even talk to their flowers, also what I notice flowers over here have rarely a scent.
Don't come to late!!!
Thank you Jovie! You are great!
Ik schrijf dit voor ik je video heb gezien. Ik ben een jordanees een 100% Nederlandse... ik accepteer je precies zoals je bent, als je je echte ik laat zien. Hie gek of braaf maakt dan niet uit. Gewoon jezelf precies zoals je bent. Nu ga ik je video bekijken. Dikke zoen
I love your living room, it looks so typically Dutch
If you really wanna fit in, in Dutch culture. Don’t forget to keep a calendar in your bathroom. You will automatically score brownie points with any new Dutch guests! Lol! No for real though
Ik heb een! Die gekocht op korting bij kruidvat! Yeah! Echt mooi, hoor! Not to impress, I just gewoon liked the sale and the calendar.
Hi Jovie
I like you already because I agree with you 100 %
You became/are a real Dutchie
compliments for that👍👍👍🌷🌷🌷
ey i watch you for a while now and this old vid just popped up and i just realized something! How can you forget our punctuality :D We said lets meet at 9, not 915 :D Being on time should def be a numbero uno in my book
Time is Time .on Time .is inportant.
Random! I was just on Tram 16 going through DH around 1:30 today (19/10) and I think I saw you sitting on a bench. 😂😂 I thought hey she looks familiar!
You totally did!! I had a shopping date with my daughter! Oh I wish we could have met! ❤️❤️❤️
Ha! We had a dentist appointment and since we were up there I was treating myself to some expat groceries 😂
Haha I love it, same time I was living here just for a 2 weeks and I got invite to a swingers party. I mean that is fast ...
Goedemorgen Jovie,
Definitely to learn the language even if Just the basics, when i was working from Poeldijk I was taught some bits and was told that people would appreciate it and they did for sure, id like to be able to learn more, i guess it's easier when you're living there,
I hope you will have success in your language learning. Immersion definitely makes it easier. Thanks so much for being here!
@@JoviesHome Dankjewel, Fijne Dag 👍
Do you want to be friends= wil jij vrienden zijn.
Laten we vrienden zijn. = let’s be friends.
Finally something useful 😂🤗❤️🇳🇴
I'm glad we could help you! 😂
this was the best therapy sessiion ever
the humour you discribe in big city humour, it is different in the country side... different culture!
The 8th way to get Dutchies to like you!
You start a RUclips channel and call it Jovie's Home! 🥰
good one!
Great video again, so true, the directness and humor is also found in New York a city where most people from Amsterdam or Haarlem would instantly feel at home, The same kind of the New York humor is also found in Amsterdam (or is it the other way around ?). f.i. if someone F***sup you could say: wonderfully done, like a star. (or in Dutch geweldig... Ster ) and the person in question would not be offended, and laugh with the one who said it (and have learned not to do that again.. ever).
That is so interesting, isn't it? Thanks for sharing!
Dear Jovie and all other foreigners, the points are correct but it is not ok. You guys dont need to change to get liked!!! Be yourself, dont act and dont change. We have to respect everyonethe way they are, everyone is good enough ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎
Here in Denmark we have the "Janteloven" as socio satirical set of rules against show-off's...
9:33 Did you say a no no word?
Bad Jovie :D
Hi Jovi... love from Sri Lanka. Actually i want to know that how or what extend dutch peoples show their feelings ... are they hide their feelings ?
Oooh I like that society confronts people’s bad behavior!
I love your accent!
Love the sassiness lol
I'm glad! I got to be me!
I really don't understand that companies can succeed when employees aren't allowed to give their opinion on how things can be improved or what's going wrong.
Are there really any (successful) businesses where the boss/CEO/owner makes all the decisions and employees just do what they're told?
I only worked in just one company like that in the Netherlands ever and they went bankrupt just a few months later.
I don't know the answer to that question, but I'd be interested in hearing if there are! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
A bit similar to that: I read a book about the dangers of positive thinking. Sounds weird, but it's kind of the same dynamic: there's a company, and every employee that goes like "well, maybe this can go wrong, what if..." gets scolded, like "why are you so nEgATiVe?!" So nobody ever thinks about a plan B and when shit does go wrong, nobody saw it coming.
It's just a matter of culture. Such a company wouldn't succeed in the Netherlands, but might, in countries where that approach fits the culture better.
In fact, I have worked with large companies in India that really, really, didn't understand our Dutch approach of everyone having his/her say about it (and in fact, seemed unsettled by it). Where employees were indeed expected to exactly do what they were told and leave any independent decision making to their superiors, who would never be questioned after they'd said it had to be 'x' and not 'y'.
@@RH-ro3sgYes, it's a matter of culture wether companies listen to advice and complaints of employees. It's not a matter of culture that the people who do the actual work are the ones that see first and most what's going wrong or what can be improved. They experience the reality of management decisions every day.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Agree to that. I _also_ noticed that 'we' seemed way more effective than 'them' in terms of output per head, and it probably had to do something with that.
But that metric might not be that important (yet) in a country where you have a lot of people in a lot of low wage jobs. It might become more so when wages rise there (which I think will happen). But right now, their approach apparently works for them,
I sound so Dutch. LOL I'm never going to walk in the bicycle lane. I will get my butt ran over. I'm never flashy with money. I have a big house. I raised a bunch of kids. Now I have my grandkids so much. During holidays the kids all come home, bring spouses & my grandkids. I don't buy the flashy stuff. I look for quality and bargains.
Never cry at the doctors. I feel that it's disgusting.
Everybody says I'm funny. I know my sense of humor has gotten me through a lot!
A couple of them reminded me of: "Doe maar gewoon, dan doe je al gek genoeg' :-)
I really loved the list and its so true.
And Hi Vinny Gezondheid ventje
I hope he sneezed into his elbow.
And still not fixed :-))
"We" pronounced as W euh, but a short euh
Don't yell, to put attenttion to you.
Not even Dutch Marine Corps instructors yell at recruits. Other than some special occasions perhaps. Yelling just has no other meaning than someone just being a loudmouth in the Netherlands.
Ti Jovie do you know Serbian language? I heard you have a good accent when you pronounce some serbian dishes. Love watching your videos, you have a very good entertainment content. Keep on going!
Cao Marija, da pričam srpski! Rodjena sam u Beogradu i tamo sam živela do 5-e godine. Ne čitam čirilicu naj bolje ali mogu da pričam bez problema! ❤️
@@JoviesHome Hvala na odgovoru! Lijepo je što niste zaboravili maternji jezik i srećno u učenju holandskog! Nastavite snimati i srećno!
@@JoviesHome Znaci vi ste Srpkinja ili sam nesto pobrkao ovde? Ja vec zivim 45 god ovde tako da imate vremena da naucite Holandski, najvaznije kad ih pozoves na veceru i sve je gratis onda ima da te zavole.
Dutch people speak direct in your face .not rude .so we are.
Give free stuff, free drinks, free diner, free anything and you have them hooked.
What does a dog do to get attention? Make loads of noise is one way. I think that if Vinnie could speak he would be saying "Make a video about me! I want to be the star of the show!"
He's such a drama queen!
For sure I thought starting a RUclips Channel about living in The Netherlands (and winning awards with it!) would on your list.
I would add one more thing to your list: you will get huge respect if you try to speak Dutch. For sure we will correct you, if necessary (like we are doing in the comments below me), but trust me, it will go over big if you at least try.
Maybe read on our (long) history, learn the National Anthem (the oldest in the world by the way) for extra points, but trying to learn Dutch is a big thing. Especially if you live here for a long time (years).
What was wrong with the dog? By the way
Those are some good tips, thanks! And about my dog, there's nothing wrong. he has sneezing fits sometimes. Or he barks at anyone walking past the house. He is completely healthy!
So maybe you can help me understand why Dutchies always reply to me in English when I speak in Dutch? I'm putting a lot of effort into learning and speaking Dutch. Do I just need to say "kun je me in het Nederlands spreken?" Thanks for any ideas you can suggest.
@@kturquet
- because we think very little of our own language. If a foreigner comes here, we try to speak anthing, except our own language and when we are on holiday we also adapt our selves and try to speak the native language.
- It could partly be a state of mind of the person living in the Netherlands. Because we Dutch like to adapt ourselves it is easier to keep talking in Engish. I had a collega who actually refused to speak English. As a result his Dutch was really good.
- Also I think we are worried we don't get our point across. I have a Polish couple as friends for at least 12 years, I never had 1 conversation in Dutch. It makes communcating so much easier.
- Maybe the expat doesn't like to be corrected all the time, when in fact we are trying to help the other person. A collega of mine even refused to speak Dutch in front of me, because I was a Grammarnazi as he descript me. He had point there, I corrected his English aswell.
Or all of the above.
Do you find it difficult to keep a conversation in Dutch?
@@kturquet ; Dutch people are very into efficiency.. and maybe too much ;-) So if you stumble with Dutch words or grammar they will LOVE to show they can talk English. It is also because we know Dutch is such a small language and difficult. HOWEVER: YES please keep telling people: "Dank je wel om Engels te willen spreken maar kunnen we Nederlands spreken? Ik wil graag mijn Nederlands verbeteren :) "
@@mauricedorreboom5388 This is very helpful. Dank je wel! I don't live in the Netherlands yet but hope to soon. In the meantime I'll keep working on my Dutch and improving my accent. I think I will just refuse to speak English at some point and see how that goes or simply ask the other person to use Dutch since the direct approach is appreciated. I don't mind correction at all and would love it if my boyfriend corrected my Dutch more. I have made quick progress since I speak German as well (and French). Thanks!
0:41 Actually, "laten we vrienden zijn" translates to "let's be friends." Also, you raise the pitch of your voice at the end as if it's a question...?
4:54 Bless you, Vinnie.
5:01 Bless you, Vinnie.
7:06 Vinnie reminds me of our dog Sjors. Sjors can be inside and barking at people who are just walking by.
8:23 This reminds me of when you talked about the different way Dutch people handle money.
9:32 Oops! I do hope this is not going to get you in trouble.
You are absolutely adorable & beautiful 💕💕
I must be Dutch
Like in "cute little dutchies"?
I have really a problem with the 3e one. I know that this is indeed true and that dutch people always want you to make jokes all the time. But you know...i dont wanne be funny al the time. Dutch people want you to be always fun and light. Even if you are having a hard time with something or have experience someting bad.
I really have a problem with that. I dont always wanne be funny. I am not a robot. Sometimes i just wanne be angry or sad if i feel so. I dont wanne be a funny clown if i feel really sad about something.
You English are so emotional ;)
We is ponounced wuh, not weeh :)
In Australia as a teen learned cricket and during the cooler months footy or rugby depending on the state you live in. Apart from that don't be a dickhead literally (l*llenkop) aka as kl**tzak. English English, Euro English, Kiwi English or American English won't do you better pick up the local jargon. By the way accents nowadays are tolerated but.......... End with a Dutch saying I used my whole life. Wie goed doet goed ontmoet. Favours will be returned.😁
I have always loved dutch humor and dutch comedians ( Toon Hermans, Wim Kann, Wim Sonneveld, Leen Jongewaard, Andre Van Duyn and many others), I was brought up with it as a kid, in a time we flemish people still watched dutch tv (before we had decent, less prudish and politically controlled tv over here and before big bucks locked down lots of free access to foreign channels).
We flemish are seen as very direct by our french speaking citizens...but still I will never get used to the kind of very direct, hurtful and often insulting humor you so clearly describe in this video, it lacks politeness and consideration for others.
Being Dutch myself I can fully understand it could be perceived as such and I’m quite sure Jovie must have felt like that at times 😔
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees that kind of humor that way. Thanks for sharing!
Than i am a Dutchman XL. I am ‘directer’ than direct....
That's too direct.
omg first !!! did gebeurt me nooit !
Congrats! Being first is pretty special.
@@JoviesHome 😂 i just saw the vid going online and then i saw i was first, then i typed i was first and i think there was a glitch because RUclips didn't show what i typed.... 🙂 but yes, it felt pretty special.
How to get Dutch people to like you? Take after Jovie!
Awww, thank you!
6. Maar niemand vind het erg als je een rondje geeft in een cafe 😀
The whole video can basically be summed up in one sentence; "Don't be a jerk!"
Or: feel free to be a jerk 😜
we want to see the dog!
Dutch humour: Flappie.
Demonized, not demonetized.
:) Doe even Normaal :)
LOL : "And it's not a bad thing... none of these things are bad things. I'm just comparing ... you know, you guys know the dril, yeah. Like if you're new to my channel , erm....... Hi !. "
I'm glad I could make you laugh!
How do Dutch like homestead animals
When you live in a village, mostly no problems.
But when you live in a city, close to each other, having a rooster in your backyard is not a good way to make friends.
I think it depends on where you live. In most cases we are probably not apposed to them.
Yes, for some reason city people are allergic to sounds from animals. While I love to wake up hearing al the birds outside. But I live at the edge of town.
I raise quail n they r quite birds
This isn't about the topic but I been wondering about fishing in the netherlands
You need a permit.
Ok how do u go about that in the netherlands cause n US u need one also
There's lots of water everywhere!!!
@@davinastreet6893 cityhall
Als je eerlijk bent zullen ze je misschien niet mogen,, maar wel respecteren. Dat is een wezenlijk verschil
first, this almost never happens !
Well, I've heard a lot of cyclists complain about tourists that do walk in the bicycle lane. But you're probably right about places with less or no tourists. As Dutch people know not to walk in the bicycle lanes.
Jovie can you speak afrikaans 😇🙏
No, that is not a language I can speak!
Ek praat nie Suid-Afrikaans nie! :-p
It is actually impolite to lie to people here in the Netherlands.. being honest = polite.
Oh good, you're looking in the camera again.
Emotional behavior is often manipulation.... we hate it.