A fun fact: During the trippy tunnel scene, Gene forgot his lines and start singing random things, all the other actors though he was losing his mind so their faces and screams were genuine. In addition the yellow cup he bites into wasn’t actually edible it was pure wax.
I saw this when I was a kid and it was mostly Wonder and only slightly creepy. As a kid I didn’t think The Grandpa was faking for 20 years, I just thought he wasn’t able to walk until Charlie’s happiness healed him.
As a kid I definitely found it full of wonder. Now as an adult it's definitely creepy, but in the best way, as I appreciate Gene Wilder's performance, that much more, and also all of the little weird things the movie has to offer. Fun fact, when we first meet Wonka, it was Wilder's idea to come out with a cane and then do the somersault, stating that "from that time on, no one will know whether I'm lying or telling the truth."
It's pretty sad that any adult being affectionate toward children automatically makes them a pedophile. Look at The Karate Kid and Back to the Future. Mr. Miyagi and Doc Brown befriend teenage boys. Their relationships are completely innocent, but these days they'd be seen as pedophiles.
It makes me sad to think how negative people's impression of Mister Rogers would be if he was around today, instead of when he was. And you will never find a more wholesome and innocent man in this world.
27:30 When Charlie said"I wish you could go." That was Charlie inviting Grandpa Jo to share the ticket. Charlie was giving half the ticket to Jo at that point. So, yes it was Jo's ticket too. Which is part of the motivation that got Grandpa Joe to give life another try.
I'm 44 now and first saw this when I was under 10. It was, and remains pure magic. I didn't think of any of it as creepy back then and in my adulthood I understood it as a product of its time. Though in adulthood, I finally see what a monster Grandpa Joe really was. :D
10:33 That's not the point. He really couldn't walk. It supposed to be a magical motivational moment when he finally finds the strength and quite frankly reason to face the world again. He was depressed with his lot in life. The ticket motivated him to start walking again. Sheesh, am I the only one who understands the this?
25:14 He worked for Willy Wonka. Wonka likely knew which stores he was sending the tickets to. He probably told not only "Slugworth" When and where to be but also the Candy Salesman when to hand out his chocolate bar with the ticket in it.
@squeebers I think you're right, except for that last part. I don't believe that the candy store owner knew that one of the golden tickets was at his shop. When it came to the 1st-4th golden ticket holders, Mr Wilkinson(the false Arthur Slugworth) had to travel to get to the kids who had them after the news broke for the findings of each of those golden tickets, but when it came to the last golden ticket, he didn't have to travel and just had to wait somewhere near that candy shop each day until Charlie found it. That's why he very quickly got to Charlie to talk to him, whereas with the other children, he couldn't get to them until they were being interviewed by TV news reporters due to having to travel long distances.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I see where you are coming from. Maybe the other candy store owners didn't know. But I still think that this candy man did know. Just based on the fact that he was the one to choose which candy bar to sell Charlie. He also had a very odd look on his face that tells me he probably knew. Idk. Everyone can believe different things. But I find it more compelling that he knew.
I always assumed the candyshop scene was just Charlie's imagination, as that was how he saw the shop he could not even enter. You will notice when he goes in the shop later in the film it's much more pedestrian.
28:30 Ok, that's just a nitpick. Obviously "and me?" was the first question but Wonka answered any other possible questions. So Joe didn't have time to ask "What about the rest of the family?" Sheesh
I think most of your questions can be answered by this simple statement: it's based on a whimsical children's book by Roald Dahl. if you read the source material, then everything you were confused about will start to make sense. it's a fantasy, not meant to be taken literally. think of it as a musical: in real life, people don't just randomly burst into song and do random dance numbers in the middle of a thought. the same applies here. I think the rest can just be chalked up to the era in which you were raised. this movie was released in the 70s, a time when things like "touching children" or smoking weren't viewed the way they are now; a time when "stranger danger" wasn't really a thing and children were mostly left to their own devices outside the home because the neighbors and the neighborhood were trusted to look out for one another. I hope this puts things into more of a perspective for you. I recommend reading the book someday; it's actually really good.
it lowkey kind of broke my heart when the candy store owner being affectionate and a safe place for kids to gather after school was seen as creepy or as if he must have nefarious motives. sure people are creeps during all time periods but this mindset that if a man is affectionate and kindly he must secretly be disgusting is a very recent take and it makes me sad. i think of all the kindly male teachers and tutorers i had in the past. would they be seen as creeps today just for being kind and affectionate? there's definitely a line but i think too often any older male showing kindness to kids is seen as problematic in some way
@@promisemochi yeah, same. the candy shop owner was one of the most wholesome characters in the movie, one of the few genuinely good characters, so it kinda made me sad to see his kindness viewed as predatory.
How do they shower? How do they go to the bathroom? As a patient care technician the answer to your question is they shower with wash clothes and they go to the bathroom by rolling to their side and having a bin placed under their butt. Fun stuff lol
Trivia: While filming this movie, Michael Bollner (Augustus Gloop) he didn't have a dressing room at the studio. Instead he would change at his house, which was conveniently nearby, and walk to the studio for filming. During the filming of this movie, Michael Bollner (Augustus Gloop) didn't speak English very well, as German was his native and only language. Some of the crew members would have to coach him on his lines. Ernst Ziegler, who played Grandpa George, was nearly blind (from poison gas in World War I), so he was instructed to look for a red light to guide him when his character was meant to be looking in a specific direction.
11:33 *sigh* This is introducing you to Willy Wonka as a character. They were showing you that he's an odd, tricky sort of fellow. And actually, it was all Gene Wilder's (The actor playing Willy Wonka) idea. They liked it so much they kept it in.
You are way too logical for this movie. For kids growing up in the 1970s it was all perfectly sensible, including grandpa Joe's miraculous transition from two decades in bed to a whole vaudeville musical number in less than a minute.
If you try to take certain elements of the film literally, it undercuts your enjoyment of the story. Owners of small mom-and-pop candy stores don’t spontaneously burst into song, and also don’t suddenly shower the entire candy contents of their shop upon awestruck children. Yes, we see and hear it, but… poetic license. •••• “Willy Wonka uses the same tactic as child kidnappers working out of a van: come get my free chocolate!” …Your ‘90s upbringing ruined you. Not your fault. When growing a business, it’s the oldest technique in the world to give away samples, or to sell them at reduced prices - to generate curiosity and novelty. Wonka wasn’t even giving things away: He was informing people that if they bought Wonka bars at the normal price, five lucky people would find Golden Tickets. •••• The fake Slugworth / Mister Wilkenson knew where the Golden Tickets would be, because he collaborated with Willy Wonka. Wonka knew which boxes would have Golden Tickets in them, and made sure to send ‘Slugworth’ out with the correct box, so that ‘Slugworth’ would be on hand immediately, ready to tempt each winner with a cash bribe. (Is it a little unrealistic that Slugworth would know which exact bar would go to Charlie, and then know which back alley route Charlie would run down to go home, and would be there in advance to suddenly appear in front of Charlie? Yes. It’s a musical. Poetic license… or ‘pure imagination.’ ) •••• “Wonka touches all the children…” Not only is his name ‘Willy’ but ‘Wonka’ is awfully close to ‘Wanker’. Yeah, the character probably would get a different name if the film were being made from scratch today. •••• “Wonka is creepy, and what’s with that fake limp?” …Gene Wilder insisted on doing the fake faceplant-summersalt, as a condition of playing the character. From the moment you meet him, he plays a practical joke about who he is. You never know whether he’s telling the truth. You also are mystified as to whether Wonka has a skewed set of values: the deadpan, lackluster way he tells the children who disobey him, “stop, don’t…” indicate that he’s ‘just going through the motions’ and really does want the kids to suffer their setbacks and to be removed from the tour. “The suspense is terrible… I hope it’ll last.” in reference to Augustus’s near-drowning, either indicates a depraved indifference to human life, or an absolute certainty that Augustus isn’t drowning, and is in no danger (and how could anyone know that?), and that Wonka is just toying with us. •••• The vibe of the movie, is such that nothing deadly is really going to happen to any of the kids or adults. •••• Four grandparents bedridden for 20 years, and Grandpa Joe: poetic license, pure imagination. “How do they pee and poop?” Yeah, it’s gross to think about, but never mind, we’re not supposed to ask. Charlie’s family is unusually poor - that’s the only point. Grandpa Joe has a miraculous recovery - he’s revived, body and soul, when Charlie invites him on the factory tour - that’s the only point. •••• “Grandpa Joe is selfish and a bad influence on Charlie!” …Joe is a flawed, complex character. He has a gift for storytelling, and is the only one of the five adults in the household that Charlie feels a special connection with. Most people are mixed, not all good or all bad. One of the reasons Charlie’s instinct is to return the Gobstopper to Wonka at the end, is because Charlie sensed that he (Charlie) would not be able to resist the continuing influence and pressure of Grandpa Joe to ‘get even’ with Wonka. Charlie sensed that Joe would eventually browbeat Charlie to break his promise to Wonka and to give the Gobstopper to ‘Slugworth’ - and Charlie did not want to allow that to happen. •••• “Grandpa Joe is glad when the other kids get taken out” … People are more than one thing. Joe (understandably) doesn’t like bratty, spoiled kids. Joe is also very protective of Charlie, all through the story. Also, note that most of the characters in the story ARE NOT LIKABLE. Charlie and Willy Wonka are; Grandpa Joe and Charlie’s mom are, but less so than Charlie or Wonka. The ‘Candyman’ is, but he doesn’t come into the story much. Charlie and Willy Wonka are the only characters that we really want to spend a lot of time with. •••• Julie Dawn Cole, did a wonderful job, as Veruka Salt: Fifty-plus years on, she’s still one of the most iconic spoiled brats in film of all time; we LOVE to hate her, and can’t wait to witness her downfall.
a timless classic based on the roald dahl novel, which had a sequel "charlie and the glass elevator", supposedly roald dahl didnt like the movie adaptation the location of the movie was shot in germany Fun fact: the scene where wonka limps and somersault to the gate was demand by gene wilder if he wanted to the role Fun fact: there was actual wonka branded choclate and sweet until the 2010's there actually a documentary about the child actor and where there doing were 20 years ago edit :corrected
Apparently, Dahl WAS initially hired to create the screenplay for the film, but instead gave them basically an outline with references to his book, then parted ways over creative differences, so they ultimately hired a different person (David Seltzer) to do the screenplay uncredited. Gives me an impression that, despite how beloved his books are, Dahl himself seemed oblivious to the different needs/expectations of _screenplays_ compared to novels.
26:54 See my previous comment. I will elaborate here. Take my aunt for example. She doesn't do much. She can walk and get around and stuff, but when it comes to getting up to get something from 5 feet away she decides it's not worth it. My theory is that the other 3 grandparents became bedridden first and Grandpa Joe got more and more depressed and finally he was aching too much and sick of not having anything in life that he just essentially gave up on life. The ticket brought joy back into his life for the first time in 20 years. He felt motivated to get up and face the world again. His depression melted away because he was given a glimpse at a brighter time ahead if he just keeps going. Just like my aunt not seeing the bright side of getting up to get that thing 5 feet away, only seeing the bad aches and pains and inconvenience that it will cause her to do so. Until she sees the bright side (may not be as BRIGHT as a golden ticket but...) she will continue to be depressed., unwilling to move and do things, essentially on her way to being, well bed-ridden. Hope that makes sense.
thanks for this. I find it odd that Eric (someone who is normally an advocate for mental health) couldn't recognize this about Grandpa Joe. perhaps he was too distracted by trying to nitpick everything else lol 😂
It was a different world then. Bad things did happen but it was rare, or not publicisized like now. Children had innocence, something taken from them at earlier ages these days. It's sad really. I grew up in the 60s just as all that started to change. I'm glad I had a nice, long childhood.
Believe it or not, it was ok to touch kids (not in a bad way) until the late 70s/ early 80s. I blame Geraldo Rivera. My mom told me when I was a kid, that when she was a kid, her mom told her, that if any teacher or other parent had to spank her for misbehaving, she would get twice as bad when she got home. Back in the 30s, parents trusted other adults to know better than kids, which they knew could be hellions. Can you imagine that happening nowadays? When every parent thinks their little monster is a little Angel??
'90s kid here. I grew up with this movie and, as a child, I took it as a purely whimsical adventure, a story about goodness being recognized and rewarded: "So shines a good deed in a weary world." As an adult, I still love this film and still think it has a fairytale quality to it, but also has dark elements to it, like any good classic fairytale would.
15:28 This tunnel shows each of their deepest fears. That's why Wonka acts crazy and yells random nonsense. He is distracting himself from looking at the tunnel walls. (I think his fear is his test failing, but that's just me) The others have normal fears; death, gore, creepy crawlies, but Charlie, Charlie's fear is Slugworth. Slugworth is not a threat to him. Far from it, in fact. He's Charlie's ticket to get his family out of poverty. And yet, Charlie is afraid of a man who's a (perceived) threat not to himself, but to Willy Wonka. He's the only one to have a fear like this. One that effects others not just himself.
Classic film, but also very much a product of it's time, 1971, there was a lot more assumed trust between adults and kids back then, they were only starting to talk about 'Stranger Danger' in the late 70s. Dahl had some skewed views about children, but i still love the film, and the message of 'don't raise spoiled brats', yes, the world is much more nuanced, and injustice, but showing gratitude for what you have isn't a bad thing. We live in a 'no' world, and kids have to understand they have to work very, very hard to achive their goals, and can. Yes, it's a film that requires a huge suspension of disbelief.
24:29 I found the tunnel bit creepy and I found Mr. Wilkinson (AKA Slugworth creepy) but beyond that no. I was born in 1998. This movie is always magical for me. Also, the candy shop at the beginning, the kids go there eat what they want and I think their parents either pay a weekly fee so their kids can do that, or pay the tab the end of the week. Either way the candy salesman at the beginning is a trusted friend.
No disrespect Eric, but the candy guy in the beginning isn't creepy or meant to be creepy. Even the scar guy, who's supposed to be scary, isn't meant to be a pedo. I know we need to be more vigilant nowadays for the creeps hiding in plain sight, but that kind of thinking, that a guy can't pick up a kid and set them on a chair, or put a hand on their shoulder, is what leads men to walk away from children with visible injuries because they're afraid of getting a permanent rep for something they didn't do, or them leaving lost kids on a street corner without helping to eventually get taken by the actual predators. Men aren't inherently creeps for not ignoring kids exist, and a guy in a candy store of course wants to make the kids feel welcome and like the store is a safe place to go. Sorry, it's just that comments like that make me sad. A shoulder touch isn't molestation.
i commented this on another comment but i'll reiterate it where it lowkey kind of broke my heart when the candy store owner being affectionate and a safe place for kids to gather after school was seen as creepy or as if he must have nefarious motives. sure people are creeps during all time periods but this mindset that if a man is affectionate and kindly he must secretly be disgusting is a very recent take and it makes me sad. i think of all the kindly male teachers and tutorers i had in the past. would they be seen as creeps today just for being kind and affectionate? there's definitely a line but i think too often any older male showing kindness to kids is seen as problematic in some way
It was more than just a shoulder touch as you noted earlier. I think overall it’s a good thing year adults in many places aren’t as hands on with kids, because that was FAR more likely to involve an adult CAUSING an injury than *saving a child from a debilitating injury*. I agree that I don’t think it was supposed to be creepy, was more “innocent” in that way, and it varies between cultures. But YOUR kind of thinking leads to kids being harmed and aids abusers who frame themselves as the victims as opposed to “paranoid” people who “imagine” abuse exists. I know of many people accused of abuse, and many others who have been abused. I don’t actually know anyone who was accused of abuse I know whose “reputation” has been permanently damaged because of that. 1/
Rest assured though, if men refuse to help a child because of a tiny chance they will have their lives ruined (?!), that is not on Eric or anyone who is uncomfortable grabbing and laying hands on kids willy nilly. That is on the extraordinarily self-centered man who decides it’s too “risky.” People save kids when the risk is permanent physical damage or DÉÀTH. But because you resent not being able to touch children casually, you’ll let them be harmed? That’s disturbing. “I know we need to be more vigilant nowadays for creeps” you don’t, because you wrote a whole bunch about how it is actually more harmful to children to not allow people to touch them in places *you* consider harmless. If you knew anything about creeps, or cared about stopping them, you would realize they tend to escalate from more to less acceptable touching. You also wouldn’t apparently prioritize theoretical repetitional harm to grown men over kids’ *physical injuries*. 2/
“Not riled up as in turned on” 😭😭😭 we understood lol. Grandpa Joe is the real villain. About the touching, I never thought about it tbh, but it’s a good point. I’m glad this generation is more aware about consent and personal space, and also about seeing children as people with full rights, ‘cause some of the other generations don’t
Your reaction is a great example of how cultural zeitgeists change between eras. (Did you catch how, during the Oompah-Loompa song about Violet, they regarded chewing gum as a _safe diversion from smoking?)_
Grandpa Joe started working for Willy Wonka when he was younger. He then served in WWII in 1941, and earned the Navy Cross Medal during his service and possibly injured his leg during the battle which may have caused his bed-ridden state. After the war, he became bed-ridden and vowed to never leave his bed. Grandpa Joe is supposed to be 98 and suffering from depression. He's only cheerful when Charlie is around or when talking about the chocolate factory. Charlie asking him to go with him after finding the ticket kicked him out of his depression. Why are people today weirded out with an adult innocently touching a child in affection or to comfort them? Too jaded nowdays I guess. We never thought anything of it back when this was made. It was all wonder and innocence. once Mr. Wonka discovered that the Oompa-Loompas loved cacao, he called on the tribe's leader (who was starving) and offered him a deal. If the Oompa-Loompas came to work in Mr. Wonka's factory, they could eat as many cacao beans as they wanted and could even receive cacao beans as wages. They also had a place to live where they were safe from the creatures killing them in their homeland. All of the kids were basically fine except for the tv kid. After falling into the chocolate river and getting sucked into the fudge room, Augustus Gloop had already had most of the fat squeezed out of him and once recovered he quickly found being thin had far more advantages than being overweight. Violet developed an innate fear of the thing that almost killed her, in this case chewing gum. Hers was a more extreme case however and this mostly owed itself to the fact that she was permanently tinted blue. Despite years of extensive and expensive surgeries and treatments she would always be reminded of her previous misdeeds and no matter what she did she found she could never return to her natural colour. Veruca learned little from her experience in the Wonka factory with the sole exception that she should stay well clear of squirrels. She is also the most bitter of all the children. Over the years she has built up quite a resentment towards Wonka and Wonka Chocolate and to such an extent that her hatred has become something of a joke. Following the incident at the factory Violet’s parents became far more cautious about how they treated her and this only served to fuel her resentment and started leading her to believe that Wonka ruined her life. The Oompa-Loompas are able to stretch Mike to cause him to grow again-but after they're done, Mike is 10 feet tall and stick-thin.
28:47 Your complaint was that Joe used a chunk of the money to buy tobacco earlier. Well, guess what, he used that money to buy a chocolate bar for Charlie. And obviously he hadn't walked the entire time as evident right before the song "I've got a Golden Ticket." So someone else must've been entrusted with the money to go out and buy a chocolate bar in secret. The only other person who can walk at that point besides Charlie. Charlie's mom. Again, I've seen other people's reactions to this movie. and can't for the life of me understand how, after knowing all the things I've mentioned in this comment and the other comments I left on this, can think that Grandpa Joe is a selfish p***k. I mean, he gave up his tobacco money for Charlie, sure he was a bit grouchy in the beginning, and sure he could have tried to get out of bed, but that's what he thought his life was. It took a little motivation for him to realize that his life could be so much more. And as for being mean towards the other children, think about it. He's been around sweet Charlie for Charlie's whole life. When seeing how self centered and selfish and un-kind these other kids are, don't you think he'd blame it on not enough discipline? Wouldn't you think these kids were awful in comparison to Charlie's demeanor? Just food for thought.
No he understood kids. More than the authors today who just write fluffy nonsense. Kids are complex and have thoughts just like adults. They just don’t know how to express or deal with them yet. That’s why RD was the PERFECT children’s author
I appreciated you pointing out that it was creepy how adults kept touching the kids. I never thought about them hurting kids, but I like that now-a-days we think of kids as the people that they are, and that they should have the right to give or not give consent to be touched. I never noticed growing up watching this movie, but yeah, lot of touching going on. I enjoy your vocabulary use (polyglot, nefarious, etc.) in this and other reactions! :) Kids are their own people, but how they start off is strongly shaped by their parents. I always liked that the movie recognized the parent's culpability in spoiling their children. I'm going to continue enjoying your reaction videos! :)
As a kid, only Slugsworth and Wonka were creepy, but Wonka went back and forth between fun/whimsical and creepy. I think the grandpa was supposed to be so depressed and defeated he couldn't walk so when he had hope again it healed him.. But yeah I thought he was a selfish jerk too when he was able to walk.
1. I first saw it when I was 10. 2. Roald Dahl the book author was a well known LSD user. (you can see why) He didn't like this adaptation, so we were cursed with "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". 3. The Umpa Lumpas told the reverent portion of the story. Anything beyond that would have been unnecessary and overkill 4. I suspect Wonka knew which children would win the tickets (lessons for our behalf) because Slugworth/Mr. Wilkinson was at the scene almost immediately. 5. Many people (especially women) seem to get a creepy feeling from Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka. 6. This is the only roll Peter Ostrum/Charlie. He's now an Veterinarian. 7. After reading the script, Gene Wilder said he would take the role of Willy Wonka under one condition: that he would be allowed to limp, then suddenly somersault in the scene when he first meets the children. When director Mel Stuart asked why, Wilder replied that having Wonka do this meant that "from that time on, no one will know if things are real or not." Stuart asked, "If I say no, you won't do the picture?" and Wilder said, "I'm afraid that's the truth." 8. If you look carefully, you can see the little girl in the candy shop get wacked on the chin when the candy man opens the flip up counter. 9. Fun fact: Veruca/Julie Dawn Cole didn't have any adult with her when they went to Germany to film the movie so Gene Wilder himself stepped in to make sure she was taken care of.😎 10. You can get away with anything in a musical.
For more info, read the books: Charlie And The Chocolate Factory; Charlie And The Great Glass Elevator (which talks more about the Oompa-Loompas) by Roald Dahl.
What always bothered me was that Mrs Teevee is a teacher, but she lets her kid sit in front of the television for hours on end, and is proud that he's never eaten at the table.
The thing that you reactors need to realize is that Joe had to muster up strength to be able to stand. He did this out of the desire to make Charlie happy. You will see that it's a vast difference than Burton's film. On the downside, all the creepy and touching comments really didn't make this reaction enjoyable for this particular fa😢of yours.
I feel sorry for your generation Eric, I was a kid in the 60s and life was much better for children! We didn't have stranger danger, people weren't abducting children anywhere in the free world! We had a lot of independence! I went out on my own all the time! Your generation was raised in a much more evil world! Sorry you can't understand that we weren't worried about getting kidnapped or murdered! That was a rich person problem, not ours! My world growing up was a million times better than today's world!!
Kids got kidnapped. People just weren’t informed about it as much cuz these days we have the internet. But if you look into historic news and records and cases, you can see them.
I grew up in the 90s and didn’t see it as creepy when I first saw it yet was a kid then. It’s definitely a sign of the times as in the 90s I don’t think we were as worried about say pedophilia as now so the adults touching on the kid’s clothes just didn’t come off as wrong though I think in the sense of Wonka he was meant to come off as a little eerie. Even now I don’t see the movie as creepy exactly but it has a darker edge to it like how Willy Wonka was just fine seeing children injured as long as it helped him find his heir and yeah as an adult you see grandpa Joe in a different light. In terms of the chocolate bar though he probably had Charlie’s mom buy it for him and just gave it to Charlie himself in private.
27:40 The other children did deserve a kick in the pants. They were all self centered and selfish. All of the kids got fixed to their normal selves and gave the gobstopper to "Slugworth" for the $1,000,000 reward. Even though they were already well off. Self centered. and you have the audacity o call Grandpa Joe self centered?! I don't get what people's deal with Grandpa Joe is!
fun fact - real life is a combination of wonder and creepiness. fake and screen life is not. it has been sanitized for your protection. that's why people are softer now. this movie is brilliant and yes creepy but not because people are touching the kids. humans used to touch each other, alot, back in the 'good old days'. affectionately or not, you got grabbed, poked, pushed, slapped, tripped, etc.. no ipad or phone to break.
When you consider that Wonka wanted just the "right" child to train to run the factory exactly as he wanted instead of how someone more independently minded would, it adds another layer to the exploitation. Personally, I will always love this film for its dark sense of humor. You would probably love the Pitch Meeting and Honest Trailers for this film: some of the best, most hilarious work they've ever done. I think only Twilight compares.
Look back in the day the candy man dude was just a kind human. There are some of those left in the world you know. Sadly the gross ones have ruined it for everyone. Now everyone is scared to even be kind to a child. As much as I want to protect the little ones it’s unfortunate that it means kind people get put into the same box and everyone has to be wary. Our society is very sad.
Dude Seriously the constant question/complaint about touching the Kids... None of it was in inappropriate places or forced after the Kid's protest to it. Not every bit of contact between an adult and child equals creepy / wrong. Chill out.
You think the factory was dangerous in this version, or that Wonka didn’t care about the kids potentially dying? Never watch the Broadway version. None of the other kids made it out in one piece.
Roald Dahl, the author of the book, didn't like how this movie got turned into a musical. And refused the sequel, Charlie and the Glass Elevator, become a film. Also, Gene Wilder only agreed to be in the movie if he could pretend to be crippled when he first comes out. Because he didn't want anyone to know whether he was lying or telling the truth.
Please watch the sequel ... Snowpiercer! (There's a popular theory I subscribe to that Snowpiercer is the direct sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)
1. The idea is to teach kids a few moral lessons. As well as the parents. Like, Veruca Salt, her being a spoiled brat is the result of bad parenting. Never hearing the word no, so she doesn't respect adults at all. But each kid and parent is an allegory for the 7 deadly sins in the bible. Lust, Glutony, Pride, Sloth, Envy, Greed and Wrath. 2. The reason that our generation wouldn't find it creepy is because in the time period it took place in, some places, even candy shops would sell with a running tab and parents would come in and pay later. Mostly it is done by bars and taverns, but grocery stores and general stores and yes, some candy shops used this practice as well. 3. A detail everyone seems to forget when they think Willy Wonka has killed the kids, is that he didn't. He said at the end, they would all be okay, just hopefully a little wiser than they were when they came in. I say this because some channels are dedicated to saying Wonka is a murderer. 4. Wonka uses temptation, like in the bible where Satin is supposed to tempt Jesus into committing sin. Bringing out their worst behaviors and instincts to create a process of elimination to find the right kid to pass the factory down to. And though even Charlie fell to that temptation, he redeems himself by giving up the gobstopper at the end. Thus winning the grand prize when he could have walked outside and claimed the money from the guy who all of them thought was Slugworth. Instead, his giving that up, showed he meant no harm to Wonka himself. While he wasn't perfect, he still had a good heart. So if that helps you understand the movie and why it can be as dark as it is, I hope it answers those questions. As for touching the kids....it was q different time period and people just didn't see that as creepy behavior. They were more innocent and ignorant in many ways. Yes, there are a lot of creeps in the world. Willy Wonka never is a creep. His morality during that time period was the same as most of society. We have learned much since this time period and thus wouldn't operate the same way today as they did in the early 70's. As a child of the 80's..I can attest to this. (Born in the 70's, grew up in the 80's). It wasn't until the internet started to become a real thing for home computers with the release of Windows 95' that people started talking more and learning new ways of doing things and really learning from the mistakes of the past. Yet some of us remain as willfully ignorant as it can get. Which is a shame.
26:15 I think that in the book you see that the kids are ok at the end though deformed. It’s been too long since I read it so I don’t remember exactly lol
Why are you so creeped out by people touching children m?! They’re not molesting them ir touching them inappropriately! I’m going to assume you’ve never spent time around children. But I assure you, it’s completely normal 😂 Hearing you say, “stop touching the children” over and over is super annoying. I don’t think I can handle much more of it
there is an internet theory that Grandpa Joe is the true bad guy of the movie. The more I rewatch it, the more i have come to believe it to be true! A Classic film, the remakes can't hope to recapture. They also seem to water down the moral messages of the movie. Plus Gen Wilder.. nuff said.
7:11 Of all the comments, this is one I hate from reactors. It's hard to explain, but I'll try. Just because people of color weren't chosen for the roles of any of the kids, doesn't make it radist or wrong in any way. I wish people would stop thinking that it is. Cuz it's not. They were just perfect for the role. Of the hundreds of children that auditioned only five of them could be chosen for the main roles. Just like with Charlie. "There are 100 billion people in the world and only five of them will find Golden Tickets." Same difference if you ask me.
1:57 Weird, rather insensitive comments from you here Eric. Disabled people including people who are paralysed or need to be in a wheelchair all the time exist. These characters aren't real but plenty of people in a similar situation to them do.
A fun fact: During the trippy tunnel scene, Gene forgot his lines and start singing random things, all the other actors though he was losing his mind so their faces and screams were genuine. In addition the yellow cup he bites into wasn’t actually edible it was pure wax.
daaaang the commitment
Depending on the kind of wax it’s edible
And that flower cup always looked so good to me too lol
I saw this when I was a kid and it was mostly Wonder and only slightly creepy. As a kid I didn’t think The Grandpa was faking for 20 years, I just thought he wasn’t able to walk until Charlie’s happiness healed him.
As a kid I definitely found it full of wonder. Now as an adult it's definitely creepy, but in the best way, as I appreciate Gene Wilder's performance, that much more, and also all of the little weird things the movie has to offer.
Fun fact, when we first meet Wonka, it was Wilder's idea to come out with a cane and then do the somersault, stating that "from that time on, no one will know whether I'm lying or telling the truth."
@ttann039
You should watch 'Grandpa Joe Did Nothing Wrong' by the RUclipsr CORDZ.
It's pretty sad that any adult being affectionate toward children automatically makes them a pedophile. Look at The Karate Kid and Back to the Future. Mr. Miyagi and Doc Brown befriend teenage boys. Their relationships are completely innocent, but these days they'd be seen as pedophiles.
It makes me sad to think how negative people's impression of Mister Rogers would be if he was around today, instead of when he was. And you will never find a more wholesome and innocent man in this world.
Thank You🙂
27:30 When Charlie said"I wish you could go." That was Charlie inviting Grandpa Jo to share the ticket. Charlie was giving half the ticket to Jo at that point. So, yes it was Jo's ticket too. Which is part of the motivation that got Grandpa Joe to give life another try.
Most folks are never warned that this is a dark comedy.
It was a different time back then! Parents would let their kid be gone all day as long as they were home before the street lights came on
I'm 44 now and first saw this when I was under 10. It was, and remains pure magic. I didn't think of any of it as creepy back then and in my adulthood I understood it as a product of its time.
Though in adulthood, I finally see what a monster Grandpa Joe really was. :D
10:33 That's not the point. He really couldn't walk. It supposed to be a magical motivational moment when he finally finds the strength and quite frankly reason to face the world again. He was depressed with his lot in life. The ticket motivated him to start walking again. Sheesh, am I the only one who understands the this?
Yes exactly. You get it.
The candy shop owner just throwing candy on the floor is kind of hilarious.
25:14 He worked for Willy Wonka. Wonka likely knew which stores he was sending the tickets to. He probably told not only "Slugworth" When and where to be but also the Candy Salesman when to hand out his chocolate bar with the ticket in it.
@squeebers
I think you're right, except for that last part. I don't believe that the candy store owner knew that one of the golden tickets was at his shop. When it came to the 1st-4th golden ticket holders, Mr Wilkinson(the false Arthur Slugworth) had to travel to get to the kids who had them after the news broke for the findings of each of those golden tickets, but when it came to the last golden ticket, he didn't have to travel and just had to wait somewhere near that candy shop each day until Charlie found it. That's why he very quickly got to Charlie to talk to him, whereas with the other children, he couldn't get to them until they were being interviewed by TV news reporters due to having to travel long distances.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I see where you are coming from. Maybe the other candy store owners didn't know. But I still think that this candy man did know. Just based on the fact that he was the one to choose which candy bar to sell Charlie. He also had a very odd look on his face that tells me he probably knew. Idk. Everyone can believe different things. But I find it more compelling that he knew.
I always assumed the candyshop scene was just Charlie's imagination, as that was how he saw the shop he could not even enter. You will notice when he goes in the shop later in the film it's much more pedestrian.
28:30 Ok, that's just a nitpick. Obviously "and me?" was the first question but Wonka answered any other possible questions. So Joe didn't have time to ask "What about the rest of the family?" Sheesh
I think most of your questions can be answered by this simple statement: it's based on a whimsical children's book by Roald Dahl. if you read the source material, then everything you were confused about will start to make sense. it's a fantasy, not meant to be taken literally. think of it as a musical: in real life, people don't just randomly burst into song and do random dance numbers in the middle of a thought. the same applies here. I think the rest can just be chalked up to the era in which you were raised. this movie was released in the 70s, a time when things like "touching children" or smoking weren't viewed the way they are now; a time when "stranger danger" wasn't really a thing and children were mostly left to their own devices outside the home because the neighbors and the neighborhood were trusted to look out for one another. I hope this puts things into more of a perspective for you. I recommend reading the book someday; it's actually really good.
it lowkey kind of broke my heart when the candy store owner being affectionate and a safe place for kids to gather after school was seen as creepy or as if he must have nefarious motives. sure people are creeps during all time periods but this mindset that if a man is affectionate and kindly he must secretly be disgusting is a very recent take and it makes me sad. i think of all the kindly male teachers and tutorers i had in the past. would they be seen as creeps today just for being kind and affectionate? there's definitely a line but i think too often any older male showing kindness to kids is seen as problematic in some way
@@promisemochi yeah, same. the candy shop owner was one of the most wholesome characters in the movie, one of the few genuinely good characters, so it kinda made me sad to see his kindness viewed as predatory.
12:44 That is called "cannibalism", my dear Eric, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies. 😝
How do they shower? How do they go to the bathroom?
As a patient care technician the answer to your question is they shower with wash clothes and they go to the bathroom by rolling to their side and having a bin placed under their butt. Fun stuff lol
Trivia:
While filming this movie, Michael Bollner (Augustus Gloop) he didn't have a dressing room at the studio. Instead he would change at his house, which was conveniently nearby, and walk to the studio for filming.
During the filming of this movie, Michael Bollner (Augustus Gloop) didn't speak English very well, as German was his native and only language. Some of the crew members would have to coach him on his lines.
Ernst Ziegler, who played Grandpa George, was nearly blind (from poison gas in World War I), so he was instructed to look for a red light to guide him when his character was meant to be looking in a specific direction.
11:33 *sigh* This is introducing you to Willy Wonka as a character. They were showing you that he's an odd, tricky sort of fellow. And actually, it was all Gene Wilder's (The actor playing Willy Wonka) idea. They liked it so much they kept it in.
You are way too logical for this movie. For kids growing up in the 1970s it was all perfectly sensible, including grandpa Joe's miraculous transition from two decades in bed to a whole vaudeville musical number in less than a minute.
I watched this movie so many times on VHS as a kid!
So many precious childhood memories!
Yes and the new Wonka movie was awesome. Not as great as the original one but very nostalgic for sure. 8/10 candy bars.
This original movie is amazing. Gene wilder and the whole cast and writing and the songs are awesome. Scary af at times but not off putting.
If you try to take certain elements of the film literally, it undercuts your enjoyment of the story.
Owners of small mom-and-pop candy stores don’t spontaneously burst into song, and also don’t suddenly shower the entire candy contents of their shop upon awestruck children. Yes, we see and hear it, but… poetic license.
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“Willy Wonka uses the same tactic as child kidnappers working out of a van: come get my free chocolate!” …Your ‘90s upbringing ruined you. Not your fault. When growing a business, it’s the oldest technique in the world to give away samples, or to sell them at reduced prices - to generate curiosity and novelty. Wonka wasn’t even giving things away: He was informing people that if they bought Wonka bars at the normal price, five lucky people would find Golden Tickets.
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The fake Slugworth / Mister Wilkenson knew where the Golden Tickets would be, because he collaborated with Willy Wonka. Wonka knew which boxes would have Golden Tickets in them, and made sure to send ‘Slugworth’ out with the correct box, so that ‘Slugworth’ would be on hand immediately, ready to tempt each winner with a cash bribe. (Is it a little unrealistic that Slugworth would know which exact bar would go to Charlie, and then know which back alley route Charlie would run down to go home, and would be there in advance to suddenly appear in front of Charlie? Yes. It’s a musical. Poetic license… or ‘pure imagination.’ )
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“Wonka touches all the children…” Not only is his name ‘Willy’ but ‘Wonka’ is awfully close to ‘Wanker’. Yeah, the character probably would get a different name if the film were being made from scratch today.
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“Wonka is creepy, and what’s with that fake limp?” …Gene Wilder insisted on doing the fake faceplant-summersalt, as a condition of playing the character. From the moment you meet him, he plays a practical joke about who he is. You never know whether he’s telling the truth. You also are mystified as to whether Wonka has a skewed set of values: the deadpan, lackluster way he tells the children who disobey him, “stop, don’t…” indicate that he’s ‘just going through the motions’ and really does want the kids to suffer their setbacks and to be removed from the tour.
“The suspense is terrible… I hope it’ll last.” in reference to Augustus’s near-drowning, either indicates a depraved indifference to human life, or an absolute certainty that Augustus isn’t drowning, and is in no danger (and how could anyone know that?), and that Wonka is just toying with us.
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The vibe of the movie, is such that nothing deadly is really going to happen to any of the kids or adults.
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Four grandparents bedridden for 20 years, and Grandpa Joe: poetic license, pure imagination. “How do they pee and poop?” Yeah, it’s gross to think about, but never mind, we’re not supposed to ask. Charlie’s family is unusually poor - that’s the only point. Grandpa Joe has a miraculous recovery - he’s revived, body and soul, when Charlie invites him on the factory tour - that’s the only point.
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“Grandpa Joe is selfish and a bad influence on Charlie!” …Joe is a flawed, complex character. He has a gift for storytelling, and is the only one of the five adults in the household that Charlie feels a special connection with. Most people are mixed, not all good or all bad. One of the reasons Charlie’s instinct is to return the Gobstopper to Wonka at the end, is because Charlie sensed that he (Charlie) would not be able to resist the continuing influence and pressure of Grandpa Joe to ‘get even’ with Wonka. Charlie sensed that Joe would eventually browbeat Charlie to break his promise to Wonka and to give the Gobstopper to ‘Slugworth’ - and Charlie did not want to allow that to happen.
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“Grandpa Joe is glad when the other kids get taken out” … People are more than one thing. Joe (understandably) doesn’t like bratty, spoiled kids. Joe is also very protective of Charlie, all through the story. Also, note that most of the characters in the story ARE NOT LIKABLE. Charlie and Willy Wonka are; Grandpa Joe and Charlie’s mom are, but less so than Charlie or Wonka. The ‘Candyman’ is, but he doesn’t come into the story much. Charlie and Willy Wonka are the only characters that we really want to spend a lot of time with.
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Julie Dawn Cole, did a wonderful job, as Veruka Salt: Fifty-plus years on, she’s still one of the most iconic spoiled brats in film of all time; we LOVE to hate her, and can’t wait to witness her downfall.
a timless classic based on the roald dahl novel, which had a sequel "charlie and the glass elevator", supposedly roald dahl didnt like the movie adaptation
the location of the movie was shot in germany
Fun fact: the scene where wonka limps and somersault to the gate was demand by gene wilder if he wanted to the role
Fun fact: there was actual wonka branded choclate and sweet until the 2010's
there actually a documentary about the child actor and where there doing were 20 years ago
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Apparently, Dahl WAS initially hired to create the screenplay for the film, but instead gave them basically an outline with references to his book, then parted ways over creative differences, so they ultimately hired a different person (David Seltzer) to do the screenplay uncredited.
Gives me an impression that, despite how beloved his books are, Dahl himself seemed oblivious to the different needs/expectations of _screenplays_ compared to novels.
11:50 Do I really have to explain this? Know what? I'm not going to.
26:54 See my previous comment. I will elaborate here. Take my aunt for example. She doesn't do much. She can walk and get around and stuff, but when it comes to getting up to get something from 5 feet away she decides it's not worth it. My theory is that the other 3 grandparents became bedridden first and Grandpa Joe got more and more depressed and finally he was aching too much and sick of not having anything in life that he just essentially gave up on life. The ticket brought joy back into his life for the first time in 20 years. He felt motivated to get up and face the world again. His depression melted away because he was given a glimpse at a brighter time ahead if he just keeps going. Just like my aunt not seeing the bright side of getting up to get that thing 5 feet away, only seeing the bad aches and pains and inconvenience that it will cause her to do so. Until she sees the bright side (may not be as BRIGHT as a golden ticket but...) she will continue to be depressed., unwilling to move and do things, essentially on her way to being, well bed-ridden. Hope that makes sense.
thanks for this. I find it odd that Eric (someone who is normally an advocate for mental health) couldn't recognize this about Grandpa Joe. perhaps he was too distracted by trying to nitpick everything else lol 😂
@@the_nikster1 It bugs me when people don't realize this about Grandpa Joe.
Exactly the criticism of grandpa Joe is honestly ableist.
@scarlettdimeloe5850 I've never seen the word "albeist," but that's a good descriptor
@@squeebers It's the word for prejudice against disabled and neurodivergent people.
It was a different world then. Bad things did happen but it was rare, or not publicisized like now. Children had innocence, something taken from them at earlier ages these days. It's sad really. I grew up in the 60s just as all that started to change. I'm glad I had a nice, long childhood.
Believe it or not, it was ok to touch kids (not in a bad way) until the late 70s/ early 80s. I blame Geraldo Rivera.
My mom told me when I was a kid, that when she was a kid, her mom told her, that if any teacher or other parent had to spank her for misbehaving, she would get twice as bad when she got home. Back in the 30s, parents trusted other adults to know better than kids, which they knew could be hellions.
Can you imagine that happening nowadays? When every parent thinks their little monster is a little Angel??
'90s kid here. I grew up with this movie and, as a child, I took it as a purely whimsical adventure, a story about goodness being recognized and rewarded: "So shines a good deed in a weary world." As an adult, I still love this film and still think it has a fairytale quality to it, but also has dark elements to it, like any good classic fairytale would.
15:28 This tunnel shows each of their deepest fears. That's why Wonka acts crazy and yells random nonsense. He is distracting himself from looking at the tunnel walls. (I think his fear is his test failing, but that's just me) The others have normal fears; death, gore, creepy crawlies, but Charlie, Charlie's fear is Slugworth. Slugworth is not a threat to him. Far from it, in fact. He's Charlie's ticket to get his family out of poverty. And yet, Charlie is afraid of a man who's a (perceived) threat not to himself, but to Willy Wonka. He's the only one to have a fear like this. One that effects others not just himself.
Classic film, but also very much a product of it's time, 1971, there was a lot more assumed trust between adults and kids back then, they were only starting to talk about 'Stranger Danger' in the late 70s. Dahl had some skewed views about children, but i still love the film, and the message of 'don't raise spoiled brats', yes, the world is much more nuanced, and injustice, but showing gratitude for what you have isn't a bad thing. We live in a 'no' world, and kids have to understand they have to work very, very hard to achive their goals, and can. Yes, it's a film that requires a huge suspension of disbelief.
24:29 I found the tunnel bit creepy and I found Mr. Wilkinson (AKA Slugworth creepy) but beyond that no. I was born in 1998. This movie is always magical for me.
Also, the candy shop at the beginning, the kids go there eat what they want and I think their parents either pay a weekly fee so their kids can do that, or pay the tab the end of the week. Either way the candy salesman at the beginning is a trusted friend.
No disrespect Eric, but the candy guy in the beginning isn't creepy or meant to be creepy. Even the scar guy, who's supposed to be scary, isn't meant to be a pedo. I know we need to be more vigilant nowadays for the creeps hiding in plain sight, but that kind of thinking, that a guy can't pick up a kid and set them on a chair, or put a hand on their shoulder, is what leads men to walk away from children with visible injuries because they're afraid of getting a permanent rep for something they didn't do, or them leaving lost kids on a street corner without helping to eventually get taken by the actual predators. Men aren't inherently creeps for not ignoring kids exist, and a guy in a candy store of course wants to make the kids feel welcome and like the store is a safe place to go. Sorry, it's just that comments like that make me sad. A shoulder touch isn't molestation.
i commented this on another comment but i'll reiterate it where it lowkey kind of broke my heart when the candy store owner being affectionate and a safe place for kids to gather after school was seen as creepy or as if he must have nefarious motives. sure people are creeps during all time periods but this mindset that if a man is affectionate and kindly he must secretly be disgusting is a very recent take and it makes me sad. i think of all the kindly male teachers and tutorers i had in the past. would they be seen as creeps today just for being kind and affectionate? there's definitely a line but i think too often any older male showing kindness to kids is seen as problematic in some way
It was more than just a shoulder touch as you noted earlier. I think overall it’s a good thing year adults in many places aren’t as hands on with kids, because that was FAR more likely to involve an adult CAUSING an injury than *saving a child from a debilitating injury*.
I agree that I don’t think it was supposed to be creepy, was more “innocent” in that way, and it varies between cultures. But YOUR kind of thinking leads to kids being harmed and aids abusers who frame themselves as the victims as opposed to “paranoid” people who “imagine” abuse exists.
I know of many people accused of abuse, and many others who have been abused. I don’t actually know anyone who was accused of abuse I know whose “reputation” has been permanently damaged because of that. 1/
Rest assured though, if men refuse to help a child because of a tiny chance they will have their lives ruined (?!), that is not on Eric or anyone who is uncomfortable grabbing and laying hands on kids willy nilly. That is on the extraordinarily self-centered man who decides it’s too “risky.” People save kids when the risk is permanent physical damage or DÉÀTH. But because you resent not being able to touch children casually, you’ll let them be harmed? That’s disturbing.
“I know we need to be more vigilant nowadays for creeps” you don’t, because you wrote a whole bunch about how it is actually more harmful to children to not allow people to touch them in places *you* consider harmless. If you knew anything about creeps, or cared about stopping them, you would realize they tend to escalate from more to less acceptable touching. You also wouldn’t apparently prioritize theoretical repetitional harm to grown men over kids’ *physical injuries*. 2/
“Not riled up as in turned on” 😭😭😭 we understood lol. Grandpa Joe is the real villain. About the touching, I never thought about it tbh, but it’s a good point. I’m glad this generation is more aware about consent and personal space, and also about seeing children as people with full rights, ‘cause some of the other generations don’t
Your reaction is a great example of how cultural zeitgeists change between eras.
(Did you catch how, during the Oompah-Loompa song about Violet, they regarded chewing gum as a _safe diversion from smoking?)_
Grandpa Joe started working for Willy Wonka when he was younger.
He then served in WWII in 1941, and earned the Navy Cross Medal during his service and possibly injured his leg during the battle which may have caused his bed-ridden state. After the war, he became bed-ridden and vowed to never leave his bed. Grandpa Joe is supposed to be 98 and suffering from depression. He's only cheerful when Charlie is around or when talking about the chocolate factory. Charlie asking him to go with him after finding the ticket kicked him out of his depression.
Why are people today weirded out with an adult innocently touching a child in affection or to comfort them? Too jaded nowdays I guess. We never thought anything of it back when this was made. It was all wonder and innocence.
once Mr. Wonka discovered that the Oompa-Loompas loved cacao, he called on the tribe's leader (who was starving) and offered him a deal. If the Oompa-Loompas came to work in Mr. Wonka's factory, they could eat as many cacao beans as they wanted and could even receive cacao beans as wages. They also had a place to live where they were safe from the creatures killing them in their homeland.
All of the kids were basically fine except for the tv kid. After falling into the chocolate river and getting sucked into the fudge room, Augustus Gloop had already had most of the fat squeezed out of him and once recovered he quickly found being thin had far more advantages than being overweight.
Violet developed an innate fear of the thing that almost killed her, in this case chewing gum. Hers was a more extreme case however and this mostly owed itself to the fact that she was permanently tinted blue. Despite years of extensive and expensive surgeries and treatments she would always be reminded of her previous misdeeds and no matter what she did she found she could never return to her natural colour.
Veruca learned little from her experience in the Wonka factory with the sole exception that she should stay well clear of squirrels. She is also the most bitter of all the children. Over the years she has built up quite a resentment towards Wonka and Wonka Chocolate and to such an extent that her hatred has become something of a joke. Following the incident at the factory Violet’s parents became far more cautious about how they treated her and this only served to fuel her resentment and started leading her to believe that Wonka ruined her life.
The Oompa-Loompas are able to stretch Mike to cause him to grow again-but after they're done, Mike is 10 feet tall and stick-thin.
28:47 Your complaint was that Joe used a chunk of the money to buy tobacco earlier. Well, guess what, he used that money to buy a chocolate bar for Charlie. And obviously he hadn't walked the entire time as evident right before the song "I've got a Golden Ticket." So someone else must've been entrusted with the money to go out and buy a chocolate bar in secret. The only other person who can walk at that point besides Charlie. Charlie's mom. Again, I've seen other people's reactions to this movie. and can't for the life of me understand how, after knowing all the things I've mentioned in this comment and the other comments I left on this, can think that Grandpa Joe is a selfish p***k. I mean, he gave up his tobacco money for Charlie, sure he was a bit grouchy in the beginning, and sure he could have tried to get out of bed, but that's what he thought his life was. It took a little motivation for him to realize that his life could be so much more. And as for being mean towards the other children, think about it. He's been around sweet Charlie for Charlie's whole life. When seeing how self centered and selfish and un-kind these other kids are, don't you think he'd blame it on not enough discipline? Wouldn't you think these kids were awful in comparison to Charlie's demeanor? Just food for thought.
Wonka had the winning bars planted, that is why wilkins is there every time.
Roald Dahl was basically an author of childrens' books who hated kids.
And that's before you even get into the fascism.
Suffice to say, despite his works...uh... Roald Dahl was not a good person
No he understood kids. More than the authors today who just write fluffy nonsense. Kids are complex and have thoughts just like adults. They just don’t know how to express or deal with them yet. That’s why RD was the PERFECT children’s author
4:50 No it can be any Wonka chocolate bar released from the factory after he released the tickets.
I appreciated you pointing out that it was creepy how adults kept touching the kids. I never thought about them hurting kids, but I like that now-a-days we think of kids as the people that they are, and that they should have the right to give or not give consent to be touched. I never noticed growing up watching this movie, but yeah, lot of touching going on. I enjoy your vocabulary use (polyglot, nefarious, etc.) in this and other reactions! :) Kids are their own people, but how they start off is strongly shaped by their parents. I always liked that the movie recognized the parent's culpability in spoiling their children. I'm going to continue enjoying your reaction videos! :)
Though this movie is way creepier to watch now than when I was a kid, it's also definitely funnier.
As a kid, only Slugsworth and Wonka were creepy, but Wonka went back and forth between fun/whimsical and creepy. I think the grandpa was supposed to be so depressed and defeated he couldn't walk so when he had hope again it healed him.. But yeah I thought he was a selfish jerk too when he was able to walk.
1. I first saw it when I was 10.
2. Roald Dahl the book author was a well known LSD user. (you can see why)
He didn't like this adaptation, so we were cursed with "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".
3. The Umpa Lumpas told the reverent portion of the story. Anything beyond that would have been unnecessary and overkill
4. I suspect Wonka knew which children would win the tickets (lessons for our behalf) because Slugworth/Mr. Wilkinson was at the scene almost immediately.
5. Many people (especially women) seem to get a creepy feeling from Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka.
6. This is the only roll Peter Ostrum/Charlie. He's now an Veterinarian.
7. After reading the script, Gene Wilder said he would take the role of Willy Wonka under one condition: that he would be allowed to limp, then suddenly somersault in the scene when he first meets the children. When director Mel Stuart asked why, Wilder replied
that having Wonka do this meant that "from that time on, no one will know if things are real or not." Stuart asked, "If I say no, you won't do the picture?" and Wilder said, "I'm afraid that's the truth."
8. If you look carefully, you can see the little girl in the candy shop get wacked on the chin when the candy man opens the flip up counter.
9. Fun fact: Veruca/Julie Dawn Cole didn't have any adult with her when they went to Germany to film the movie so Gene Wilder himself stepped in to make sure she was taken care of.😎
10. You can get away with anything in a musical.
Anyone who has problems with Grandpa Joe should watch 'Grandpa Joe Did Nothing Wrong' by the RUclipsr CORDZ.
Fun fact from the woman who played veruca salt her hairbgot shorter through the filming. They dealt with split ends with a candle.
For more info, read the books: Charlie And The Chocolate Factory; Charlie And The Great Glass Elevator (which talks more about the Oompa-Loompas) by Roald Dahl.
I never noticed how funny the search of the golden tickets were until I rewatched as an adult 🤣🤣
What always bothered me was that Mrs Teevee is a teacher, but she lets her kid sit in front of the television for hours on end, and is proud that he's never eaten at the table.
The thing that you reactors need to realize is that Joe had to muster up strength to be able to stand. He did this out of the desire to make Charlie happy. You will see that it's a vast difference than Burton's film. On the downside, all the creepy and touching comments really didn't make this reaction enjoyable for this particular fa😢of yours.
I feel sorry for your generation Eric, I was a kid in the 60s and life was much better for children! We didn't have stranger danger, people weren't abducting children anywhere in the free world! We had a lot of independence! I went out on my own all the time! Your generation was raised in a much more evil world! Sorry you can't understand that we weren't worried about getting kidnapped or murdered! That was a rich person problem, not ours! My world growing up was a million times better than today's world!!
Kids got kidnapped. People just weren’t informed about it as much cuz these days we have the internet. But if you look into historic news and records and cases, you can see them.
"people weren't abducting children anywhere in the free world" that's delusional.
26:28 my grandmother was AnaCelia and my Grandfather AnaStacio so they were both Ana 😂
I grew up in the 90s and didn’t see it as creepy when I first saw it yet was a kid then. It’s definitely a sign of the times as in the 90s I don’t think we were as worried about say pedophilia as now so the adults touching on the kid’s clothes just didn’t come off as wrong though I think in the sense of Wonka he was meant to come off as a little eerie. Even now I don’t see the movie as creepy exactly but it has a darker edge to it like how Willy Wonka was just fine seeing children injured as long as it helped him find his heir and yeah as an adult you see grandpa Joe in a different light. In terms of the chocolate bar though he probably had Charlie’s mom buy it for him and just gave it to Charlie himself in private.
27:40 The other children did deserve a kick in the pants. They were all self centered and selfish. All of the kids got fixed to their normal selves and gave the gobstopper to "Slugworth" for the $1,000,000 reward. Even though they were already well off. Self centered. and you have the audacity o call Grandpa Joe self centered?! I don't get what people's deal with Grandpa Joe is!
fun fact - real life is a combination of wonder and creepiness. fake and screen life is not. it has been sanitized for your protection. that's why people are softer now. this movie is brilliant and yes creepy but not because people are touching the kids. humans used to touch each other, alot, back in the 'good old days'. affectionately or not, you got grabbed, poked, pushed, slapped, tripped, etc.. no ipad or phone to break.
This movie traumatized me as a kid and I still refuse to re-watch it, mostly because of that tunnel scene.
Now, watch Snowpiercer...for no reason in particular
When you consider that Wonka wanted just the "right" child to train to run the factory exactly as he wanted instead of how someone more independently minded would, it adds another layer to the exploitation.
Personally, I will always love this film for its dark sense of humor. You would probably love the Pitch Meeting and Honest Trailers for this film: some of the best, most hilarious work they've ever done. I think only Twilight compares.
This one will never be topped!
Look back in the day the candy man dude was just a kind human. There are some of those left in the world you know.
Sadly the gross ones have ruined it for everyone. Now everyone is scared to even be kind to a child.
As much as I want to protect the little ones it’s unfortunate that it means kind people get put into the same box and everyone has to be wary.
Our society is very sad.
Dude Seriously the constant question/complaint about touching the Kids... None of it was in inappropriate places or forced after the Kid's protest to it. Not every bit of contact between an adult and child equals creepy / wrong. Chill out.
No kidding,he should relax ,it's so harmless
You think the factory was dangerous in this version, or that Wonka didn’t care about the kids potentially dying? Never watch the Broadway version. None of the other kids made it out in one piece.
Actually that song is in the book
Roald Dahl, the author of the book, didn't like how this movie got turned into a musical. And refused the sequel, Charlie and the Glass Elevator, become a film. Also, Gene Wilder only agreed to be in the movie if he could pretend to be crippled when he first comes out. Because he didn't want anyone to know whether he was lying or telling the truth.
I still cannot watch the tunnel scene to this day.
Please watch the sequel ... Snowpiercer! (There's a popular theory I subscribe to that Snowpiercer is the direct sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory)
Whaaaat lmao
The candy man 😁 nice movie
1. The idea is to teach kids a few moral lessons. As well as the parents.
Like, Veruca Salt, her being a spoiled brat is the result of bad parenting. Never hearing the word no, so she doesn't respect adults at all.
But each kid and parent is an allegory for the 7 deadly sins in the bible. Lust, Glutony, Pride, Sloth, Envy, Greed and Wrath.
2. The reason that our generation wouldn't find it creepy is because in the time period it took place in, some places, even candy shops would sell with a running tab and parents would come in and pay later. Mostly it is done by bars and taverns, but grocery stores and general stores and yes, some candy shops used this practice as well.
3. A detail everyone seems to forget when they think Willy Wonka has killed the kids, is that he didn't. He said at the end, they would all be okay, just hopefully a little wiser than they were when they came in. I say this because some channels are dedicated to saying Wonka is a murderer.
4. Wonka uses temptation, like in the bible where Satin is supposed to tempt Jesus into committing sin. Bringing out their worst behaviors and instincts to create a process of elimination to find the right kid to pass the factory down to.
And though even Charlie fell to that temptation, he redeems himself by giving up the gobstopper at the end. Thus winning the grand prize when he could have walked outside and claimed the money from the guy who all of them thought was Slugworth. Instead, his giving that up, showed he meant no harm to Wonka himself. While he wasn't perfect, he still had a good heart.
So if that helps you understand the movie and why it can be as dark as it is, I hope it answers those questions.
As for touching the kids....it was q different time period and people just didn't see that as creepy behavior. They were more innocent and ignorant in many ways.
Yes, there are a lot of creeps in the world. Willy Wonka never is a creep. His morality during that time period was the same as most of society.
We have learned much since this time period and thus wouldn't operate the same way today as they did in the early 70's.
As a child of the 80's..I can attest to this. (Born in the 70's, grew up in the 80's). It wasn't until the internet started to become a real thing for home computers with the release of Windows 95' that people started talking more and learning new ways of doing things and really learning from the mistakes of the past. Yet some of us remain as willfully ignorant as it can get. Which is a shame.
10:15 I think it's 10,000 100s so a fair bit of money. 1,000,000 pounds as a matter of fact.
26:15 I think that in the book you see that the kids are ok at the end though deformed. It’s been too long since I read it so I don’t remember exactly lol
It's pronounced "bouquet" :p
love and miss Gene Wilder :(
Why are you so creeped out by people touching children m?! They’re not molesting them ir touching them inappropriately!
I’m going to assume you’ve never spent time around children. But I assure you, it’s completely normal 😂 Hearing you say, “stop touching the children” over and over is super annoying. I don’t think I can handle much more of it
This film was fun but there’s a bunch of questionable stuff when safety is concerned. Personally, I like the Tim Burton reboot version overall.
there is an internet theory that Grandpa Joe is the true bad guy of the movie. The more I rewatch it, the more i have come to believe it to be true! A Classic film, the remakes can't hope to recapture. They also seem to water down the moral messages of the movie. Plus Gen Wilder.. nuff said.
Not remakes, readaptations. There's a difference.
There's a subreddit called r/ihategrandpajoe lol
@@monsoon1234567890 Seriously?
Eh, it's magic, and the song isn't about Joe but the mindset of people in their situation.
@@ZukoHalliwell yup. there's apparently enough people out there who can't stand the bum
I like your reactions I am giving you a requests Have you heard of Jerry Maguire it stars Tom Cruise. Also Field of Dreams. It’s a baseball movie
7:11 Of all the comments, this is one I hate from reactors. It's hard to explain, but I'll try. Just because people of color weren't chosen for the roles of any of the kids, doesn't make it radist or wrong in any way. I wish people would stop thinking that it is. Cuz it's not. They were just perfect for the role. Of the hundreds of children that auditioned only five of them could be chosen for the main roles. Just like with Charlie. "There are 100 billion people in the world and only five of them will find Golden Tickets." Same difference if you ask me.
BTW, I know you meant it as a joke, but it still is slightly offensive to me.
Just wondering...Does a particular scene from Thor Ragnarok seem a bit more familiar now? ruclips.net/video/n9w90J36A3g/видео.htmlsi=o2p7H4K9y9EkBRRp
Stop touching the kids 😂😂 bro come on
1:57 Weird, rather insensitive comments from you here Eric. Disabled people including people who are paralysed or need to be in a wheelchair all the time exist. These characters aren't real but plenty of people in a similar situation to them do.
2/1000 is 0.2%
Creepy didn't come into vogue until the Democrats started embracing it.