I am gonna say after watching your first and second Lis videos i became sooooo much better with her ,i tiered 1 her in almost no time since i followed your advise, and i just loved what you did with how much financial damaged you calculated its a original idea i have not seen any other content creator do yet 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 i always love you Lis videos i really look closely and i learn from things you don't say but just watching the placement of your shot and look at the sights and angles
Thanks a lot for that - I really like hearing that these vids are helping people out. I don’t know what your experience is in your lobbies but here in Asia (Singapore) I feel very very alone in the fight against helicopters / jets and I refuse to lean on the TO4 for anti-air spawn camping. Knowing others are out there makes me smile, even if it is on the other side of the world 😅 I wish this video had got more love - I’m trying hard to do original overlays / ideas interwoven into what is at the end of the day another BF video. It’s probably bad timing with the arrival of Starfield and the Season Limbo we’re in. Incidentally, in this vid I did also include the cost of pilots but after seeing the number I considered it way too dark and took it out, not trying to depress anyone! Thanks again for the shout out - if join know anyone who might be interested, please do spread the word. See you in season 6!
What worries me, is that there is a huge difference between M&K and controller, so that flying is more pleasant/natural with a controller, but shooting a Lissille also way more difficult. I hope that Dice does recognize that just bc a Railgun, Lissile, etc. is very strong with M&K, it isn't as much or at all with controller. It seems like changes are more focused on PC, when there are equally 2 whole console platforms (on Playstation 2042 even was free to download) who get the short end.
I’ve got a controller I’m going to try out & see what it’s actually like to Lissile & otherwise experience the game. I’m not going to make a vid about it as I’m worried it’ll come off wrong & people wouldn’t believe me if I said I was using a controller & made a good shot anyway. Still going to do it though so I can form a more complete view on the challenge. It’s hard. Patch 3.2 was designed to give controller Lis players a fairer shot at hitting aircraft (so I’m told). However that degree of speed / control in the hands of M&K players was aircraft Armageddon. So back it went. I really don’t know what to say to this one. Not used controller yet so can’t have a valid opinion. What would you do? How do we fix this, two different sensitivities / assists based on your input device? For my part I’m going to give it a go as I said above. If nothing else at least I’ll know more after trying.
@@timelessgamer_UK Exactly, with 3.2 it was finally a great experience for controller Liz, but ofcourse that also buffed M&K. I see no other option then to have 2 different settings. We already have 25% less recoil and some aim-assist on console, so it's not like that would be new. And don't get me wrong, you *can* Lissile aircraft on controller (especially ones that fly slow and make an easy target anyway), but it always gives of a wrong impression when seeing it on RUclips which is 90% PC and forgeting the reality on consoles.
I mean can’t argue with any of that. The only problem I can think of is the heli pilots won’t know who’s shooting at them and therefore what speed was coming if we made it too different. I don’t have an answer. I’ll give it a go and see if that inspires anything.
That was huge. What a video! Hope this gets respect from fellow gamers, congrats on a great season 5! Looks like you did your shift taking out vehicles, I love it. Great work, seriously.
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate that. Yeah this was the Swan Song for the season I had to do something big to send it off. I hope people like it so we can play again in Season 6!
4:50 I agree with the aesthetic argument. But if they're gonna make the skyscrapers objectives again they need to make better access points than the elevators. I'd love to see if there was like multiple rappels coming in from various surrounding buildings for some kind of middle-floor (like maybe second or third from top). Because the elevators must be the absolute worst way to scale a building in an action game and it seems to me that's purely a consequence of aesthetic decisions. Skyscrapers are pretty awful for gameplay generally. So very static. The best they offer is Sundance flanking fun (for Sundance). They're too big to design any other solution for them while keeping the level of realism they've gone for. If I had complete control I'd construct some kind of absolute monstrocity of collapsed cranes, maybe a toppled over building you can somehow run into one do the skyscrapers through big elevator shafts or something. Just a bunch of junk jutting through the skyscrapers to make them interesting objectives. Horrible for aesthetics but it'd be really cool to have multiple access points and actually fighting up the building. Maybe the objective isn't at the top its somewhere inside. So roof control isn't an immediate attacker win but it's an axillary you fight over. Orbital tower is a far better implementation of tall building fights.
I hear exactly what you’re saying, a chaotic mash up like the crane situation you describe would be immense fun. Having multiple towers / networks to reach the objective is good design. For all that though, I do also enjoy the air battles. If I had my way & not having throughly about it too much, I’d have a fast spawning helicopter transport that was locked within the play area of the tower objective (so you can’t fly off with it). I’d make it so aerial attacks were a constant thing & the attackers had to break through from the sky. I just love the tight space & high rise feeling, it’s super cool! I hope we get something back, I mean they even took away the stadium - that was one of the best features in Hourglass. So strange…
Love this specialist, but being on console, it's a tad tricky getting the sensitivity just right. I enjoy the challenge, but do get frustrated when it's an off day playing Lis. Thanks for the content!
You’re lost welcome - I was actually thinking of doing a vid trying out Controller. I would only do this if I came up with something helpful, I’m concerned it could come off as sounding like one of those PC Master Race guys which is absolutely bullshit (all gamers stand equal above none gaming serfs). I’m going to try for an evening and see if it inspires anything. Maybe I can’t figure anything out but don’t try, nothing happens. Keep Lissiling, every shot counts!
@@timelessgamer_UK all good mate, hope you're good too! so why i prefer boris is that it allows me to run with recoiless M5 and RPG, as you might have seen in some of my clips i really like using them. Additionally, the turret functions somewhat like a Prox Sensor grenade!
Hello, thank you for your guides. But I'm not fluent in English. I often see your rocket miss the target and still blow up the vehicle. I also looked at your guide to Lis in season 4. Is there a trick to making the rocket explode nearby? thanks in advance
Hi, thanks for the message & your English is just fine! No, there is no trick to detonating the rocket early. All you can do is cancel the flight by pressing E (or the correct button on the controller). Many times it may look like the missile missed, but it did not. The hit box is just wider than you may think / sometimes the tail of a helicopter you are shooting at flicks up in the air. Often missiles pass straight through a vehicle I hit perfectly (this is called ‘dusting’ if you hear it in another video). All I do is make the best shot I can - no secret beyond that. Hope that helps. I do know what you mean sometimes is does look like the missile may have just missed - but it’s just ‘bigger’ than it looks.
Thanks man - loved your vid with Dan. I dread to think how much damage you did in an attack chopper over season 5. How’s the editing practice coming along anyway?
I play ps 5 bf 2042 and o love play lis which setting you recommended for joystick settings sensitivity on it sometime my racket is Ofer Sterling same time is perfect with you recommended thanks
Thanks for the message - I am going to switch to controller and see if I can offer some good advice to people. Please give me some time to research this question properly, I promise I will give a proper reply as soon as I have proven it works. Hope you enjoyed the video & the rest of the channel!
@@timelessgamer_UK thanks for that like I says love lis very much I was doing all specialis t1 but I can say if I play different specialist I miss lis what she can do specially helicopters 🚁 because if very good player flying and destroying yours team and vehicle 🚗 lis only too go
I'm not as good a Lis player as you, but there is also the aspect that the Lissiles are far harder to control on a console (at least on the Playstation 5, which is what I'm playing on these days). So for me, Lis is definitely not overpowered. Granted, her ability to automagically refill the rockets is really strong, but if you keep missing many of the shots on air vehicles, that doesn't really help all that much. I did start a year late though (burned after preordering BF4), so I'm still learning. ;) The good thing about that is that the Redux unlockables are all new for me (well, the season 3 things may not be that all the way, we'll see I guess). If DICE don't continue telling the story toward 2142, and beyond, I hope they give us some 2142 Portal stuff. That would be fantastic. Imagine playing the Titan mode there ...
Thanks for the message and glad you’ve come to the game - it’s fun, despite the negativity which seems to be about lately… I missed a lot of redux too due to work so not bad to have a second pass at it. To Lis, I don’t think automagically (love that phrase) regenerating missiles is a problem or anything like that. I think the problem is there’s really no point - in my opinion - picking any other Engineer than her. She’s savage in the air, evil against land vehicles and can even snipe for goodness sake. On top of having. A launcher she can also have AT Mines or C5, Crawford and Boris cannot. It’s too much power. My idea I was trying to float was limit Lis’ effectiveness to anti air only (reduce her damage vs ground vehicles) whilst materially buffing say Crawford to be a devil against armour and Boris to have anti - personnel gadgets. Each would then have their own style and use case as opposed to being where they are now at least in my opinion - second tier. I get the controller point I’ve just got me Xbox pad. Will test it out soon. Learning to use an overlay software to make videos more interesting to watch. On the move to 2142, wholly agree. I want to move forward in time not fall back to WWII or the 1960s period. I hope they don’t slide back into it, had enough of games from that era & frankly the stories are getting a little dry. Let’s use some imagination and wonder what the world were heading into might look like :)
"Beautiful!" - Lis Reacting to your video. Personally, I don't think Lis is overpowered, I think she's in a great spot, it's not too easy and not too difficult to use her. Interesting that when you dust with her the controls are inverted... That could indicate that it is not something which is based on lag like I previously thought and instead must be something in the code which thinks that you did in fact make the shot and hence is resetting the Lissile to some other state... Great work man, this came out really well!
Thanks so much as ever for the support, I really do appreciate it. Incidentally, what do you think about making the 3 engineers specialists in air, ground and infantry? I think it’s got merit. Lis also has AT and C5, I mean she’s fricking brutal the others don’t even come close. I’m not trying to be mean and love to anyone who plays the game & is positive about it, but… why would you pick Boris?!? I really don’t understand. Lis can defeat and Air Force single handedly. It would make sense to me if Boris got some genuinely good anti infantry fortifications, not that silly turret which frankly doesn’t even work 😝
@@timelessgamer_UK I agree I think a specialist for air and ground armour is good. Not sure about an engineer for infantry. I think anti-vehicle should be their focus. I'm hoping we get some more engineer tools! Give me slam mines, and a SRAW :P They might even be thinking of letting us carry one launcher and one other item.
There’s plenty on the Asian severs too. No names as the population here is small and I see these guys all the time. Between you and me, I go for nightbirds anyway but I always smile extra wide when the Lissile bites and I see certain names come up 🤭 Yeah… some lissiles taste better than others. Nothing wrong in admitting that!
here's the thing about the m5 and rpg velocity nerf. yes against air vehicles 17% is a lot but people use these launchers to snipe ground vehicles with ridiculous ranges. they actually should nerf it more. bf4 had a really slow velocity compared to what we have in 2042. enders made a great video explaining this. but yes like you demonstrate lis tv missiles should be used against air vehicles. and the other two engineers should get access at4 guided missile launcher from portal for anti aircraft. edit: i forgot to mention this but yes i agree. i hope the nerf lis against vehicles and make crawford good against vehicles and boris good against infantry. boris could really use his buff. having played games like Killzone and some other games with sentry turret's, the turrets in those games shred infantry but they aren't overpowered. they are pretty easily destroyed with the right counters.
I’m not against the slow down, I’m just into anti-air gameplay. In this one specific use case, I could see it’ll have an impact. It’s all trade offs for the greater good I’m not at all raging about it. Just a theory that a side effect of a necessary change might have this consequence. Personally I would like the engineers split into 3 distinct roles. Lis is anti air so reduce her ground vehicle damage, make one anti-armour and the other an anti-infantry engineer. Give each engineer a specific role & try not to have them cut across each other. I think that would add a lot to the game. Just my take, one of many views I’m sure. Thanks for the comment - yeah I did see Ender’s video. I won’t lie whilst I respect a lot of his opinions, I’m not in favour of piling into the Devs. Say what needs saying but I’m really worried the talent won’t want to work on the BF franchise (to improve 2042 or make a future game) if you’ve a high chance of being grilled. That’s how it works in my firm (totally unrelated to gaming). Once word is out that a project is out of fashion, it becomes really challenging to staff up. Really hope Devs don’t look at the next project and think “maybe not”.
@@timelessgamer_UK i edited my comment before i saw your reply. but yes I really agree with making them distinct. lis ground armor damage should be nerfed. and boris and Crawford should be buffed in those areas. since they said they will change some engineers I hope crawford stays unchanged because his minigun already is pretty effective against infantry. i hope boris vehicle damage from his turret gets buffed massively because his turret sucks. also, I'm not the biggest fan on flaming devs either with enders but at least he is honest. the devs also aren't always that great either. like when one of them said we don't understand specialists, when in reality we just didn't like how they changed the class system.
Ah yeah i see the edit now - yep can’t argue with that it’s a good idea. Devs vs Enders etc, I just hope everyone can calm down and focus on what’s right for the franchise. One side calling another idiots, morons, stupid or worse doesn’t help. Truth is all sides are in this together. They want to sell and sustain a game / franchise, and we want to play. Keep going like this and it won’t end well. Take your point though, neither side have completely covered themselves in glory.
@@timelessgamer_UK yeah man let's hope everyone gets calm about this and that bf2042 gets as good as it can get be before they stop supporting the game.
What would you say your hit rate is with lizsels on aircraft? I feel like I'm 10% at best. Pretty frustrating. I'm trying to get better but it's just not clicking with me...
I would say I’m easily a 60% hit rate - a little higher against attack choppers and stealth, a bit lower against Nightbirds. How long have you been practicing Lis for? Btw, did you check this out? Apologies if you’ve seen it: ruclips.net/video/ASLnCPEsbLQ/видео.htmlsi=eQK5dK00TNoaBxhI Hope this helps, let me know if you’ve any questions.
@@timelessgamer_UK wow well now I have a target to shoot for (no pun intended)! I did not see that, watching now. Thanks Edit. I've been a boris main (recoilless vs armour) playing breakthrough mostly. I play a lot of control now and have been getting wrecked by helis so I'm trying to adapt with Liz
Good strat - there’s a rumour going around that Boris is being completely reworked. Let’s see what comes out in season 6. It’s a good move to switch to Lis right now - the air vehicles are set to have another wave of dominance if we don’t. M5 / RPG are good but better if you’ve got a friend who can run as Rao. I made a part 2 to the Lis guide but it’s a little cheeky / next level after you’ve really got her down. ruclips.net/video/arH_pMVZNYw/видео.htmlsi=VzrhOXS9VUxmaPSO Good luck!
I’m at work so I can’t check right now, but I’ll have a look this evening when I log in. For now to the absolute best of my knowledge I haven’t changed a single setting other than to disable DSLR so I don’t get motion blur on the missile.
Man of your skill could have it if you wanted it - just grab a drink of your choice & settle in for the evening. You’ll be hitting the Lissiles by the end of the night no problem. Where’s the vehicle hunter vid?? 😇
let me know if you ever want to run together. I'm finding that so long as the latency is below 250 I can spot as Rao without too many issues. We can land some Javelin & STAFF shell kills :)@@Santi_ramos35
She’s ready - since making this I’ve been working overtime with Lis. Also with Rao to act as Spotter & make sure our team doesn’t get overrun by vehicles. I lean heavily to vehicle / anti-vehicle play so I’m loving this!
At some point in our lives we’re all in one of these jets. It’s a good metaphor for when I think I’m about to get some game time and my kid gets out of bed and wants to go talk to me about Ducks. My hopes & expectations are the Jet. The Duck is the Lissile 🦆
That would be great - perhaps we could jump into Portal sometime & you could give me a Top Gun lesson. Jokes aside (duck related or otherwise) I’m clearly missing something with them as I lose just about every clash I get into. It’d be good to get the basics explained.
Thank for the support!! Ok I think you mean detonate, if so the reason I’m doing that is to try and be a good camera man so I can get the best pictures possible!! It’s not so compelling if you can’t see the flaming wreckage hurtling to the floor. I love this game and will work through all the content I can but my heart belongs to Engineer, Vehicles and wrecking everything I can. It’s where I fit best into any team - Engineer for life :) And yeah if poking my head out is a little flex… that works for me!!
Put that in her Lore Codex card 🤭 Glad you enjoyed the concept, thought it would be a good way to wrap up the season. Also part of my continued campaign to subtly steer people into anti-vehicle / anti-air roles. Get paid $66M per day 😉
There’s no way to prove it of course - but you might be the best Lis team player out there. I never get bored of this, keep it up!! More Lis!
Thanks so much!! Pretty sure I’m not the best but I’ll take the compliment. Have a good weekend!
I am gonna say after watching your first and second Lis videos i became sooooo much better with her ,i tiered 1 her in almost no time since i followed your advise, and i just loved what you did with how much financial damaged you calculated its a original idea i have not seen any other content creator do yet 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 i always love you Lis videos i really look closely and i learn from things you don't say but just watching the placement of your shot and look at the sights and angles
Thanks a lot for that - I really like hearing that these vids are helping people out. I don’t know what your experience is in your lobbies but here in Asia (Singapore) I feel very very alone in the fight against helicopters / jets and I refuse to lean on the TO4 for anti-air spawn camping. Knowing others are out there makes me smile, even if it is on the other side of the world 😅
I wish this video had got more love - I’m trying hard to do original overlays / ideas interwoven into what is at the end of the day another BF video. It’s probably bad timing with the arrival of Starfield and the Season Limbo we’re in. Incidentally, in this vid I did also include the cost of pilots but after seeing the number I considered it way too dark and took it out, not trying to depress anyone!
Thanks again for the shout out - if join know anyone who might be interested, please do spread the word. See you in season 6!
This is top tier battlefield content
Really appreciate that - worked hard on this one! Glad you’re enjoying it. Thanks for the support
What worries me, is that there is a huge difference between M&K and controller, so that flying is more pleasant/natural with a controller, but shooting a Lissille also way more difficult.
I hope that Dice does recognize that just bc a Railgun, Lissile, etc. is very strong with M&K, it isn't as much or at all with controller.
It seems like changes are more focused on PC, when there are equally 2 whole console platforms (on Playstation 2042 even was free to download) who get the short end.
I’ve got a controller I’m going to try out & see what it’s actually like to Lissile & otherwise experience the game. I’m not going to make a vid about it as I’m worried it’ll come off wrong & people wouldn’t believe me if I said I was using a controller & made a good shot anyway. Still going to do it though so I can form a more complete view on the challenge.
It’s hard. Patch 3.2 was designed to give controller Lis players a fairer shot at hitting aircraft (so I’m told). However that degree of speed / control in the hands of M&K players was aircraft Armageddon. So back it went. I really don’t know what to say to this one. Not used controller yet so can’t have a valid opinion. What would you do? How do we fix this, two different sensitivities / assists based on your input device? For my part I’m going to give it a go as I said above. If nothing else at least I’ll know more after trying.
@@timelessgamer_UK Exactly, with 3.2 it was finally a great experience for controller Liz, but ofcourse that also buffed M&K.
I see no other option then to have 2 different settings. We already have 25% less recoil and some aim-assist on console, so it's not like that would be new.
And don't get me wrong, you *can* Lissile aircraft on controller (especially ones that fly slow and make an easy target anyway), but it always gives of a wrong impression when seeing it on RUclips which is 90% PC and forgeting the reality on consoles.
I mean can’t argue with any of that. The only problem I can think of is the heli pilots won’t know who’s shooting at them and therefore what speed was coming if we made it too different.
I don’t have an answer. I’ll give it a go and see if that inspires anything.
That was huge. What a video! Hope this gets respect from fellow gamers, congrats on a great season 5! Looks like you did your shift taking out vehicles, I love it. Great work, seriously.
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate that. Yeah this was the Swan Song for the season I had to do something big to send it off. I hope people like it so we can play again in Season 6!
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I agree with the aesthetic argument.
But if they're gonna make the skyscrapers objectives again they need to make better access points than the elevators.
I'd love to see if there was like multiple rappels coming in from various surrounding buildings for some kind of middle-floor (like maybe second or third from top). Because the elevators must be the absolute worst way to scale a building in an action game and it seems to me that's purely a consequence of aesthetic decisions.
Skyscrapers are pretty awful for gameplay generally. So very static. The best they offer is Sundance flanking fun (for Sundance). They're too big to design any other solution for them while keeping the level of realism they've gone for.
If I had complete control I'd construct some kind of absolute monstrocity of collapsed cranes, maybe a toppled over building you can somehow run into one do the skyscrapers through big elevator shafts or something. Just a bunch of junk jutting through the skyscrapers to make them interesting objectives. Horrible for aesthetics but it'd be really cool to have multiple access points and actually fighting up the building. Maybe the objective isn't at the top its somewhere inside. So roof control isn't an immediate attacker win but it's an axillary you fight over.
Orbital tower is a far better implementation of tall building fights.
I hear exactly what you’re saying, a chaotic mash up like the crane situation you describe would be immense fun. Having multiple towers / networks to reach the objective is good design. For all that though, I do also enjoy the air battles. If I had my way & not having throughly about it too much, I’d have a fast spawning helicopter transport that was locked within the play area of the tower objective (so you can’t fly off with it). I’d make it so aerial attacks were a constant thing & the attackers had to break through from the sky. I just love the tight space & high rise feeling, it’s super cool! I hope we get something back, I mean they even took away the stadium - that was one of the best features in Hourglass. So strange…
Love this specialist, but being on console, it's a tad tricky getting the sensitivity just right. I enjoy the challenge, but do get frustrated when it's an off day playing Lis.
Thanks for the content!
You’re lost welcome - I was actually thinking of doing a vid trying out Controller. I would only do this if I came up with something helpful, I’m concerned it could come off as sounding like one of those PC Master Race guys which is absolutely bullshit (all gamers stand equal above none gaming serfs). I’m going to try for an evening and see if it inspires anything. Maybe I can’t figure anything out but don’t try, nothing happens. Keep Lissiling, every shot counts!
@@timelessgamer_UK no worries if nothing comes of it and good luck on your endeavors.
Great video. I hope I can shoot down few aerial targets..thanks for sharing..
Just checking and apologies if you did, have you seen this? ruclips.net/video/ASLnCPEsbLQ/видео.htmlsi=dqVDaaxBYnbFP8ha@@amitmou2009
@timelessgamer4359 I have seen this excellent video...but still struggling. Mind you I can only play a couple of hours a week at.most...
such a nicely done video mate! been running with uncle boris lately but looks like now is the time to change that!
Thanks man! Hope everything is going well for you. Tell me... why Boris? I can't figure out what he brings??
@@timelessgamer_UK all good mate, hope you're good too! so why i prefer boris is that it allows me to run with recoiless M5 and RPG, as you might have seen in some of my clips i really like using them. Additionally, the turret functions somewhat like a Prox Sensor grenade!
Hello, thank you for your guides. But I'm not fluent in English. I often see your rocket miss the target and still blow up the vehicle. I also looked at your guide to Lis in season 4. Is there a trick to making the rocket explode nearby?
thanks in advance
Hi, thanks for the message & your English is just fine!
No, there is no trick to detonating the rocket early. All you can do is cancel the flight by pressing E (or the correct button on the controller). Many times it may look like the missile missed, but it did not. The hit box is just wider than you may think / sometimes the tail of a helicopter you are shooting at flicks up in the air. Often missiles pass straight through a vehicle I hit perfectly (this is called ‘dusting’ if you hear it in another video). All I do is make the best shot I can - no secret beyond that.
Hope that helps. I do know what you mean sometimes is does look like the missile may have just missed - but it’s just ‘bigger’ than it looks.
Great vid and editing. I'm jelly.
Thanks man - loved your vid with Dan. I dread to think how much damage you did in an attack chopper over season 5. How’s the editing practice coming along anyway?
Amazing job mate, love your content. See you went to a lot of effort with this one, hope people appreciate it.
Thanks man really appreciate it. Yeah that one took a lot of effort, hope people like it!
I see that they patched the rotor blade hits. I miss by a millimeter the missle just keeps going now.
I have a very strong feeling that Lis in Season 7 will be radically different. Let’s see what Dice does
I play ps 5 bf 2042 and o love play lis which setting you recommended for joystick settings sensitivity on it sometime my racket is Ofer Sterling same time is perfect with you recommended thanks
Thanks for the message - I am going to switch to controller and see if I can offer some good advice to people. Please give me some time to research this question properly, I promise I will give a proper reply as soon as I have proven it works. Hope you enjoyed the video & the rest of the channel!
@@timelessgamer_UK thanks for that like I says love lis very much I was doing all specialis t1 but I can say if I play different specialist I miss lis what she can do specially helicopters 🚁 because if very good player flying and destroying yours team and vehicle 🚗 lis only too go
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Have you seen this? It might help.
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I'm not as good a Lis player as you, but there is also the aspect that the Lissiles are far harder to control on a console (at least on the Playstation 5, which is what I'm playing on these days).
So for me, Lis is definitely not overpowered.
Granted, her ability to automagically refill the rockets is really strong, but if you keep missing many of the shots on air vehicles, that doesn't really help all that much.
I did start a year late though (burned after preordering BF4), so I'm still learning. ;)
The good thing about that is that the Redux unlockables are all new for me (well, the season 3 things may not be that all the way, we'll see I guess).
If DICE don't continue telling the story toward 2142, and beyond, I hope they give us some 2142 Portal stuff. That would be fantastic. Imagine playing the Titan mode there ...
Thanks for the message and glad you’ve come to the game - it’s fun, despite the negativity which seems to be about lately… I missed a lot of redux too due to work so not bad to have a second pass at it. To Lis, I don’t think automagically (love that phrase) regenerating missiles is a problem or anything like that. I think the problem is there’s really no point - in my opinion - picking any other Engineer than her. She’s savage in the air, evil against land vehicles and can even snipe for goodness sake. On top of having. A launcher she can also have AT Mines or C5, Crawford and Boris cannot. It’s too much power. My idea I was trying to float was limit Lis’ effectiveness to anti air only (reduce her damage vs ground vehicles) whilst materially buffing say Crawford to be a devil against armour and Boris to have anti - personnel gadgets. Each would then have their own style and use case as opposed to being where they are now at least in my opinion - second tier.
I get the controller point I’ve just got me Xbox pad. Will test it out soon. Learning to use an overlay software to make videos more interesting to watch.
On the move to 2142, wholly agree. I want to move forward in time not fall back to WWII or the 1960s period. I hope they don’t slide back into it, had enough of games from that era & frankly the stories are getting a little dry. Let’s use some imagination and wonder what the world were heading into might look like :)
"Beautiful!" - Lis Reacting to your video.
Personally, I don't think Lis is overpowered, I think she's in a great spot, it's not too easy and not too difficult to use her. Interesting that when you dust with her the controls are inverted... That could indicate that it is not something which is based on lag like I previously thought and instead must be something in the code which thinks that you did in fact make the shot and hence is resetting the Lissile to some other state...
Great work man, this came out really well!
Thanks so much as ever for the support, I really do appreciate it. Incidentally, what do you think about making the 3 engineers specialists in air, ground and infantry? I think it’s got merit. Lis also has AT and C5, I mean she’s fricking brutal the others don’t even come close. I’m not trying to be mean and love to anyone who plays the game & is positive about it, but… why would you pick Boris?!? I really don’t understand. Lis can defeat and Air Force single handedly. It would make sense to me if Boris got some genuinely good anti infantry fortifications, not that silly turret which frankly doesn’t even work 😝
@@timelessgamer_UK I agree I think a specialist for air and ground armour is good. Not sure about an engineer for infantry. I think anti-vehicle should be their focus. I'm hoping we get some more engineer tools! Give me slam mines, and a SRAW :P
They might even be thinking of letting us carry one launcher and one other item.
I love making nightbird sweats rage. There's a few on EU who will absolutely rage at me when I kill them.
There’s plenty on the Asian severs too. No names as the population here is small and I see these guys all the time.
Between you and me, I go for nightbirds anyway but I always smile extra wide when the Lissile bites and I see certain names come up 🤭
Yeah… some lissiles taste better than others. Nothing wrong in admitting that!
here's the thing about the m5 and rpg velocity nerf. yes against air vehicles 17% is a lot but people use these launchers to snipe ground vehicles with ridiculous ranges. they actually should nerf it more. bf4 had a really slow velocity compared to what we have in 2042. enders made a great video explaining this. but yes like you demonstrate lis tv missiles should be used against air vehicles. and the other two engineers should get access at4 guided missile launcher from portal for anti aircraft.
edit: i forgot to mention this but yes i agree. i hope the nerf lis against vehicles and make crawford good against vehicles and boris good against infantry. boris could really use his buff. having played games like Killzone and some other games with sentry turret's, the turrets in those games shred infantry but they aren't overpowered. they are pretty easily destroyed with the right counters.
I’m not against the slow down, I’m just into anti-air gameplay. In this one specific use case, I could see it’ll have an impact. It’s all trade offs for the greater good I’m not at all raging about it. Just a theory that a side effect of a necessary change might have this consequence.
Personally I would like the engineers split into 3 distinct roles. Lis is anti air so reduce her ground vehicle damage, make one anti-armour and the other an anti-infantry engineer. Give each engineer a specific role & try not to have them cut across each other. I think that would add a lot to the game. Just my take, one of many views I’m sure.
Thanks for the comment - yeah I did see Ender’s video. I won’t lie whilst I respect a lot of his opinions, I’m not in favour of piling into the Devs. Say what needs saying but I’m really worried the talent won’t want to work on the BF franchise (to improve 2042 or make a future game) if you’ve a high chance of being grilled. That’s how it works in my firm (totally unrelated to gaming). Once word is out that a project is out of fashion, it becomes really challenging to staff up. Really hope Devs don’t look at the next project and think “maybe not”.
@@timelessgamer_UK i edited my comment before i saw your reply. but yes I really agree with making them distinct. lis ground armor damage should be nerfed. and boris and Crawford should be buffed in those areas. since they said they will change some engineers I hope crawford stays unchanged because his minigun already is pretty effective against infantry. i hope boris vehicle damage from his turret gets buffed massively because his turret sucks.
also, I'm not the biggest fan on flaming devs either with enders but at least he is honest. the devs also aren't always that great either. like when one of them said we don't understand specialists, when in reality we just didn't like how they changed the class system.
Ah yeah i see the edit now - yep can’t argue with that it’s a good idea.
Devs vs Enders etc, I just hope everyone can calm down and focus on what’s right for the franchise. One side calling another idiots, morons, stupid or worse doesn’t help. Truth is all sides are in this together. They want to sell and sustain a game / franchise, and we want to play. Keep going like this and it won’t end well. Take your point though, neither side have completely covered themselves in glory.
@@timelessgamer_UK yeah man let's hope everyone gets calm about this and that bf2042 gets as good as it can get be before they stop supporting the game.
What would you say your hit rate is with lizsels on aircraft? I feel like I'm 10% at best. Pretty frustrating. I'm trying to get better but it's just not clicking with me...
I would say I’m easily a 60% hit rate - a little higher against attack choppers and stealth, a bit lower against Nightbirds. How long have you been practicing Lis for? Btw, did you check this out? Apologies if you’ve seen it:
ruclips.net/video/ASLnCPEsbLQ/видео.htmlsi=eQK5dK00TNoaBxhI
Hope this helps, let me know if you’ve any questions.
@@timelessgamer_UK wow well now I have a target to shoot for (no pun intended)! I did not see that, watching now. Thanks
Edit. I've been a boris main (recoilless vs armour) playing breakthrough mostly. I play a lot of control now and have been getting wrecked by helis so I'm trying to adapt with Liz
Good strat - there’s a rumour going around that Boris is being completely reworked. Let’s see what comes out in season 6. It’s a good move to switch to Lis right now - the air vehicles are set to have another wave of dominance if we don’t. M5 / RPG are good but better if you’ve got a friend who can run as Rao.
I made a part 2 to the Lis guide but it’s a little cheeky / next level after you’ve really got her down. ruclips.net/video/arH_pMVZNYw/видео.htmlsi=VzrhOXS9VUxmaPSO
Good luck!
@@timelessgamer_UK I had few good shots tonight thanks to you Lis video. Thanks!
you're most welcome, that's what we like to hear!@@ChrisHersh42
always fun to watch these :)
Thanks it’s great to hear people enjoying it. Grab some popcorn & watch the fireworks 💥
Thanks for the support!!
@@timelessgamer_UK no problem we’ve got to play together at some point, we added each other on origin already :)
Ping me any time - I’m usually just goofing around, always happy to have a squad!
Do you have any specific settings for steering the leez missies?
No - keyboard & mouse defaults. Haven’t changed a thing, honest truth.
@@timelessgamer_UK what about dpi and or sensitivity? I have a hard time being as smooth with the missiles. I end up over correcting often.
I’m at work so I can’t check right now, but I’ll have a look this evening when I log in. For now to the absolute best of my knowledge I haven’t changed a single setting other than to disable DSLR so I don’t get motion blur on the missile.
Is there a way to increase the rocket sensitivity on xbox?
I have no idea, sorry!!
Man, those guides rockets seem super nasty! 😅
They found their mark - I just edited out the percentage of ones which missed 🤭
Great to meet a fellow Gamer dad :D
I can't believe BF removed access to the air transport in almost every level.
128 is back - I’ve been loving the Transports being home again. Had an amazing weekend with them!
Nice video for sure man.. Idk if it’s just me but trying to play Liz is so hard 😂 I can never time it/move the missile right
Man of your skill could have it if you wanted it - just grab a drink of your choice & settle in for the evening. You’ll be hitting the Lissiles by the end of the night no problem. Where’s the vehicle hunter vid?? 😇
@@timelessgamer_UK you might be into something here 😂😂… I’ve actually been trying these new game modes right now. Holding off on that video for now 😂
I look forward to the day it comes, as with all your vids. See you around mate@@Santi_ramos35
let me know if you ever want to run together. I'm finding that so long as the latency is below 250 I can spot as Rao without too many issues. We can land some Javelin & STAFF shell kills :)@@Santi_ramos35
@@timelessgamer_UK 😲😲. I got you bro. Gunna be out this upcoming week so my schedule gunna be crazy 😬
Looks easy - only way to master this is practise, practise and lots of missiles. Easy to hit big choppers but stil have hard times with little bird.
If I may, have you seen this guide? It may help you with the Little Birds...
ruclips.net/video/ASLnCPEsbLQ/видео.htmlsi=RG5EyJWtWQuGOAK7
Good luck!!
Lis rockets + at mines and smoke grenades..covers all bases...
She’s ready - since making this I’ve been working overtime with Lis. Also with Rao to act as Spotter & make sure our team doesn’t get overrun by vehicles. I lean heavily to vehicle / anti-vehicle play so I’m loving this!
love this games non stop action always exciting to watch
It’s great isn’t it - hoping for Season 6 soon. Btw I really enjoyed your Starfield play through.
I have learned so much from this video! if only I had battlefield 😔
I’m glad you’re enjoying it to that extent! Incidentally, free access weekend is coming up. It might even be today? Check it out!
Am I in one of these jets?
At some point in our lives we’re all in one of these jets. It’s a good metaphor for when I think I’m about to get some game time and my kid gets out of bed and wants to go talk to me about Ducks. My hopes & expectations are the Jet. The Duck is the Lissile 🦆
@@timelessgamer_UK 😄😄😄I too would like to talk about ducks sometime, please.
Apparently my door is always open to Mallard related enquiries. 24/7 helpline.
@@timelessgamer_UK if you want help learning the jets let me know. I only fly jets so maybe I can help a little
That would be great - perhaps we could jump into Portal sometime & you could give me a Top Gun lesson. Jokes aside (duck related or otherwise) I’m clearly missing something with them as I lose just about every clash I get into. It’d be good to get the basics explained.
Dude never be sorry for showing so many kills absolutely love the videos.
Thank for the support!!
Ok I think you mean detonate, if so the reason I’m doing that is to try and be a good camera man so I can get the best pictures possible!! It’s not so compelling if you can’t see the flaming wreckage hurtling to the floor. I love this game and will work through all the content I can but my heart belongs to Engineer, Vehicles and wrecking everything I can. It’s where I fit best into any team - Engineer for life :)
And yeah if poking my head out is a little flex… that works for me!!
I don't know what happened with my original post, something on my end, I'm sure.
Anyway yes I to love playing engineer.
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Great comment 😂
😘@@timelessgamer_UK
$66M. EPIC
Put that in her Lore Codex card 🤭
Glad you enjoyed the concept, thought it would be a good way to wrap up the season. Also part of my continued campaign to subtly steer people into anti-vehicle / anti-air roles. Get paid $66M per day 😉