VIETCONG IS AN OLD GEM (VIETCONG REVIEW 2022)
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Vietcong is a 2003 tactical first-person shooter video game developed by Pterodon in cooperation with Illusion Softworks and published by Gathering of Developers for Microsoft Windows. It is set during the Vietnam War in 1967
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I actually played this game with my Vietnam vet grandfather back in the day, who actually introduced me to video games as a whole. We were very close. He lost an arm & a leg during the war but it never stopped him from spending time with his grandkids, and in the late 1990s--early 2000s, we were big into video games. He learned how to hold a N64 controller and play Mario Kart 64 despite his handicap.
I got Vietcong when I was 7~8 years old and it used to scare the hell out of me; the sound design is very, very good and the bullets will snap over your head. My grandad would sit with me and, every time I would get shot, he'd say something like "You're not shot in real life, get after him!"
He wound up beating the game (on Easy, mind you) before I did. He would move with his one hand, stop, then move the mouse to shoot. He hated the tunnel missions because it was so easy to get turned around and lost.
He passed in 2014. Watching him play and playing Vietcong with him is one of my core memories growing up. I miss him dearly.
I wonder if the game was cathartic for him, having seen so much.
@@mitchlovesgames7281 it’s really time to dispel the myth and belief that every fucking vet has PTSD, I’m so tired of dealing with that shit
@@ViktoriousDead The guy lost a fucking arm and a leg, it probably affected him somehow
@@mitchlovesgames7281 It did. He and my grandmother had separate bedrooms and I never understood why until I was older. But he was Superman. He held a job with the IRS for 30 years as a collector and, instead of carrying a gun as per the standard, he carried dog treats.
His wounds, mental and physical, never got in the way of who he was as a man.
@@blazinsaddles19 Thats a great story man. I grew up idolizing my grandpa as well. Im glad yours lived a full life given the circumstances he dealt with.
I am Czech and this game is one of the gems of our gaming industry alongside with Mafia. I hope somoene will remake or remaster this game one day.
I hope so too tbh
I hope so 2 :) I was thinkin' about Bohemia Interactive (if they would buy the ip from Take 2) :) btw I'm also Czech (Czech dubbin' is awesome) :)
You read my mind man... Čteš mi myšlenky kámo... Stará dobrá hra.
The Czechs did Mafia as well!? Damn fine work. The world still owes you thanks for the ZB-26
Vietcong is great. Hope the team finds a studio to remake the game without losing the "Nam" feeling to it.
Bro. Multiplayer was fucking incredible. I genuinely feel sorry for you that you can never experience that remington 870 just blowin someone way in multiplayer. The maps were so fun. Had lots of vertical depth. Just super fun.
it is a shame tbh, when i was growing up we didn't have internet good enough to play online games, I remember playing 2142 with 10fps and 300 ping
@@Tantwo Just played Arma 3 DLC prairie fire. Pretty sweet and reminded me of vietcong
i think it was around 2009-2011 when there were multiplayers servers and they were full (like in TF2). It felt more engaging then in the new CoD games. Sadly i can't even run the game on newer OS
MP was so broken man, you turned off grass and everyone stuck out like a sore thumb. SP was epic though, hardest SP game I ever played.
It was. Im hrco from 420 greens clan and later from nGG clan (we migrated to 1.6 version). Still the best shooter expirience to date. I played from 2007-2013 (the game was dying and we moved to BF3) Online was so much fun and hardcore, 2-3 bullets and you are a dead, throwing grenades was an art form in itself and the maps were perfect. Coop servers with realistic rules were also mindblowing.
Something I have always loved about this game, which I have never seen anyone talk about anywhere. On the first mission when you arrive at the base, if you stand still in the open looking at your map for too long, you will get killed by a VC sniper
vietcong is so gritty, thats why it feels so interesting to play
really captures the atmosphere
GRIDDY?!?
I got it in November 2003 and it quickly became my favorite game for many years. It's so nice to see people talk about this game so many years later. :)
all good, gotta appreciate the past
I don't know why but I really love these 2000's graphics. the way each trees, bush, grass look, and the blue sky....
There's a Czech game studio called Ingame Studios, which is wotkin' on a brand new game from Vietnam so maybe it's gonna be somethin' like Vietcong (the lead designer of that new game is Jarek Kolář - he was also workin' on Vietcong) :)
hopefully more information gets released soon
@@Tantwo Hope so 2 :) I believe it's gonna be an awesome game :)
Loved this and Shellshock Nam '67. Played these a lot as a teenager.
woah u just unlocked a core pc memory
I gotta check out shellshock nam
Shellshock is GOAT of vietnam games
Nam '67 - woah! those were the days!
Why no one is making "tactical", story driven, squad commanding shooters anymore? Vietcong, SWAT 4, and even Republic Commando were one of the best games of the 2000s
yo u missed Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising & Red River
try arma 3 or ready or not
if on console insurgency sandstorm is good
@@kuroiuzu9754 I'm well aware of them, Sandstorm and RoN don't have real campaigns and Arma 3 is just not for me
Is this game that "tactical"
@@kuroiuzu9754 arma 3 is a milsim.
Thank you so much for making these memories alive again. I loved vietcong! It was such a revolutionary game! I think it was the first time, when the game plays this heartbeat, when you are under fire. With headphones you got so sucked in, in this atmospehre of vietnam war. In the tunnels i almost shit my pants, back then.
And vietcong2 was such a great game again. I even had about 3 years a coop-multiplayer server running. About 15GB custom maps. It was a really a great time.
played multiplayer from 2011 to 2017, it was super fun especially for me bc i was a kid at the time and couldnt afford a good pc, but the community was really strong in those servers. youd play custom made maps, jumping maps, coop, ctf. oh the one with the 4 glass buildings. i had so much fun. this game was really ahead of its time with all the modding and multiplayer modes. all in all, ive had more fun w this game than any other fps game ive played since, and yes i mean that.
Still the best game ever imo, played it for years. MP was great. Miss it. So much nostalgia.
The fact that you have to use your muzzle flash and tracers to shoot at night is such a good detail cause that’s actually how they had to shoot at night. I think it was John Stryker Meyer that was on a podcast and said that but I could be wrong.
I remember this game so much, the damn tunnel rats missions scared the living shit out of me as a kid.
And the multi-player coop and custom coop maps was awesome, I sank over 800 hours into this game before it faded away.
Vietcong 2 was also awesome, but didn't really go all the way.
I wish 2k would revamp the series
Played this a lot as a teenager, loved it. Nowadays I still love the main menu music too :P superb game, very detailed
the main menu song is really good
It was actually made by the devs, it's called Pseudo Hendrix lol
I like how the M16 has 18 rounds, since that's how they loaded the 20 round mags due to jamming
Rising Storm 2 Vietnam does the same thing
I used to play the multi-player all the time as a young lad. My favorite was the long range bolt action rifle and finding ways to glitch out of the maps or climb where you shouldn't be lol. Good memories
I went to EB Games back when Conflict: Vietnam came out. My brother and I were kids, and my dad got it for us because he liked Back to Baghdad and wanted to play C:V with us.
We got home, opened the used copy we bought, and it contained Vietcong: Purple Haze. Going back to the store, my brother went in alone to be quick and was laughed away from the counter. "You probably mixed them up, kid." So my dad goes in and tears the guy up verbally and we got C:V.
But yeah I got to play Purple Haze a bit and eventually the first one. These games are shamefully underrated. Some of the reviews from the time are blatant sabotage and don't even speak of the game itself, talking about anticipation of another unrelated title.
The opening theme is a legendary piece of guitar music. I loved it.
always love a good sound track
Dude, this game is severely under-rated and what I believe to be WAY ahead of its time! Such an immersive experience. I hope they remake this proper GEM! What a game.
definetly a game that needs a remake, there aren't any narrative driven Vietnam games these days
Nice to see you going back and covering some historic games tantwo, in this bright future, you can't forget your past.
it's amazing how far we've come, we don't have any narrative driven Vietnam games these days, btw love ur username
Vietcong is a classic.
This game was absolutely unforgiving and would probably be very frustrating for modern "spoiled" gamers. You could have died suddenly by stepping into a trap, enemies were extremely hard to see etc... The only way to survive was to go extremely slowly forward, hide behind every rock and tree etc... (as in real life). But it was very rewarding when done right and felt pretty realistic.
The graphics was nothing special even back then. The game was made by a small Czech studio and it used and in-house engine ("Ptero-Engine"). But it was functional. The jungle scenery was very atmospheric. Overall the atmosphere in this game was amazing.
Also this game had pretty dedicated online / pro-gaming scene back then.
Unfortunately it seems that proper widescreen support and FOV setup is impossible in this game which makes it very inconvenient to play these days.
This game would deserve a proper remaster.
As someone who played this game for years and was arguably one of the best in the world in the mid 2000s (i met a couple guys in ladder tournaments who were good competition but it was rare), this game is near and dear to me. I made lifelong friends and attended weddings, all because of the games I played there.
The things I loved about this game would make most FPS players today go nuts.
Because as challenging as it might feel navigating without radar against the AI, the PVP was on a whole other level.
It was one of the few games anywhere that things like cover, cammo, and fields of fire really mattered in - especially in those days.
I would argue that while many FPS games today feel faster paced, players accustomed to name tags, radars, hit indicators, and aiming reticles, would find themselves completely torn to shreds and outmatched by a team of experienced Vietcong players.
Sadly, the sequel was such a letdown that this franchise wasn't able to get off the ground. But the original will always be a masterpiece in my eyes.
You were in ladder? Im hrco from nGG clan.
@cycomiles4225 it's been a long time, but I was in 100% clan.
We competed on a ladder that was third party off some website that one of the other guys signed us up for. It's been too long so I've forgotten the name of it.
@@theovernight1915 Oh, we were on ESL
there needs to be more Vietnam games, would love one similar to hell let loose
you might like Burning Lands then
My favourite FPS of all time. Immersive, historically accurate, hard and with strong multiplayer modes. I spent thousands of hours of this game. I wish they could release a remake/remaster to bring back more players on it.
Loved this game, played Fist Alpha too, the online community created tons of cool maps for the multiplayer. In Fist Alpha you can also deploy bayonets.
Probably one of the first game where you have to loot the singles magazines from dead body of VC.
I played this way back during my early college years. I was enraptured by it, not the least reason being I've studied a decent chunk of Vietnam War-era history and am somewhat knowledgeable of the gear, tactics, etc., along with the social aspects, etc.
The multiplier was stellar. Nothing quite like it back then. Matches were huge and could go on for an hour at a time with players coming and going; the game had an auto-balance mechanic so if teams got too far out of balance, on the next player's death they would get swapped to the other team.
The atmosphere was top-notch and really sold the experience. From the ambient sound (as you aptly made good example of), to gunfire, distant explosions, etc., to the hazy fog and use of color, etc., they just nailed it. Stupendously claustrophobic at times, which made the few scenes with open vistas even more gratifying.
IIRC the developers did a lot of research on the weapons and took the time to do their own sound samples and handling of many of the period firearms. They honestly did a great job in that way. IMO it was really only missing a couple oddball guns, like the CAR-15, etc. But really given context of gameplay that's almost irrelevant.
Yeah the facial animations and voice acting were pretty rough at times, but the feeling and spirit still got across IMO. Some of the language was pretty 'offensive' to people even back then, but many forget both then and now that media, games, shows, etc. aren't *just* for entertainment, they're meant also as commentary, and Vietcong was very much a sort of pseudo-documentary. The game has satire: to the perceptive, they'll notice there is a commentary going on: should the 'good' guys really be calling people those sorts of slurs?
Anyway, glad to see some recent coverage of the game.
Oh yeah.. I used to own people in MP at Halong Port. Well, it was 2003 then. Now I do not even play MP games cause the lack of time.. - What a good game and what memories... :)
Yep, me too!
I wanna play just to hear that drill sergeant acting sus.
he mentions that he wants to rear end you a lil too much for comfort
The Coop used to be so much fun, aunts husband used to host a server almost daily where they played on the highest difficulty
Still ahead of it's time than some games today. Save game feature incorporated in actual gameplay was brilliant. Squad dynamic in general really enjoyable with having time back at the base too. Hand help map likewise well done, very few games done it since. Could call artillery on it too. The patrol option with pointman in lead was very well done & immersive. Sound & atmosphere great. When I look at games like this from 20 years ago, I scratch my head what happened. They had 5% of the graphics we have today, but still managed to immerse you more somehow
Multiplayer was amazing as well. CTF (theres other modes, but this was mostly played), coop and I competed in ESL with a clan. I still cant find a shooter that comes close to it. No health regen, bullets absolutely punish you, 1 headshot=death, throwing grenades properly was a required skill...it was such a great FPS.
My son and I were 2 of the top ranked Vietcong multiplayer gamers in the "world" for many years. We started a clan with some buddies called Ruthless Soldiers. I was [RS]Hannibal and my son was [RS]Cannibal. That game was a blast.
Reviewed the game myself not too long ago and came across this video.
Great review! Really well done and straight to the point. I have no experience with multiplayer, but the campaign, the skirmish and the Fist Alpha expansion all make for a great time! Its also really funny to see you play on easy and just Quake-ing your way through it. XD
PS: Damn, the english VA is bad.
With Czech Dabing is even better , great video.
Thanks!
a common joke is that Hawkins is afraid of actually looking down the sights
probably got hit in the eye once due to recoil and he's afraid to repeat the same mistake
@@Tantwo makes sense
I got this game when it came out and got stuck in the tunnels till I realized I had a flashlight lol. I was throwing glow sticks and getting shot. It was scary!
yep....I'm in the exact same boat
@@Tantwo Right! There was a keyboard button for it but it wasn’t an obvious thing to select in the loadout lmao 🤣
You should have seen the how happy 11 years old me got when I figured out the flashlight key😂
I played this from release until about 2010 and found it captivating! Used to play for like 100 hours a week online with the Clan I was in - Lone Fighting Wolves - had some fantastic multiplayer games lasting hours....
I loved this game for the ads which was rare at the time, the foliage and what felt like a realistic shooter compared with other games at the time.
The COOP was amazing, I used to play it on a 4 way LAN set up.. Incredibly intense, you could have a radioman and call in artillery similar to how the commander works in RS2 though on a smaller scale obviously limited to an intense firefight, calling down artillery on your own position or going Rambo First Blood with the Knife. Rescuing downed pilots from swamps, defending hilltop outposts that were being overrun etc.
This channel needs to blow up.
I prayto Susan Wojcicki everyday hoping that it does
I remember playing this on release... And I remember that at the time, it was pretty much pioneering the ADS system.
It was the first shooter I ever played online as well, it was a really great multiplayer.
Always be using the point man. He's useful as hell and you don't get surprised so often by the enemy. Playing this like a COD game is not recommended so as a person who has played quite a lot of tactical shooters this was a good experience. Then again there were some tough situations to get through.
Thank you sir for reviewing my favorite game! That's my childhood right there
no worries mate, was an incredible experience
Played the crap out of this around 2007. Such nostalgia. Wish I could have tried its multiplayer, too. I remember exploring the multiplayer maps and thinking how cool it would have been to play with other people, but I never got the chance.
I have this game and the Purple Haze expansion pack, and I played them so much when I was a kid.
I even bothered to get the things running on Windows 10 a couple years back to play for nostalgia's sake and man I should probably do so again soon.
Thank you for covering one of my favorite childhood games
it's all good mate
Love this game. I used to just hang out in the base and listen to the radio
I used to spend many many hours playing this online with friends as a kid.
Still my favourite online experience with a surprisingly atmospheric single player campaign too.
If I were to build another pc (I long since gave up on pc gaming) it would be just to play the best version of this game again.
Fist Alpha was a great add-on also, m14, svt 40 or pps 43 were spot on.
i know a little bit about the weapons used in Vietnam not an expert at all but i think the weapon are pretty accurate those weapon where indeed used during the Vietnam war props to the developper actuly showing lesser know weapon used in the conflict
Would love to see some more reviews!
got any suggestions?
@@Tantwo Staying on brand, ShellShock Nam 67 is a flawed gem. Has a full barrack system with hookers, some decent "war is hell" moments, and urban environments
This game rates as some of the most intense online firefights for me. It was brutal and unforgiving. The hill map was just insane and soul-destroying. It has been a long time since I have had a similar experience. Probably red orchestra 2 comes the closest and tarkov.
I remember thinking this looked the nuts when it was released, I loved it!
0:45 one of examples of human/animal hybrids. Vietcong used to experiment on human and animal dna but the government doesn't want you to know!
The graphics stands up well for a game from 2004! Look at the jungle, the design of the map (bridge, training ground, pillbox/sentry post guarding the road, etc). I remember when I saw the screenshots of this game in local PC game magazine back then, when I was a kid. And the developer put so many research on this game as you show it: the weapons are historically accurate, small details like trap signs, booby traps, etx
Multiplayer was grand. I was like 14 and got my ass kicked constantly, but it was pure fun! It would be nice to live that again :)
Thanks for your video, this game is just fantastic.
A fun challenging game. Sounds and atmosphere is fantastic. Good job by these Czech developers for the time.
Everyone who was born after 2000 - has no fkin clue, what we - the greatest gamer generation - had in those glorious days!
People just need to realise that some peoples parents don’t care what they play. Was year 7 in 2009, but still played deus ex, half life and allied assault at age 4 (albeit fuckin poorly)
dude I watched Rambo when I was 8 and went into show and tell and told everyone, and that is how I also got banned from playing violent video games for a month lol
How did you manage to get the game?
Ive tried downloading it but I didnt have a CD key, is there an emulator?
Always loved the fire from the fire from the m16.
One of my favorite fps game
Very realistic, a lot of background ( weapon history, history etc...)
The expansion fist alpha was very good too
I will be sure to check that out
Speaking of Czech historical war games, you should try Hidden&Dangerous 2.
i'll be sure to add it to my list of games i gotta play, thank you for the suggestion
@@Tantwo No problem. Hardly anyone covers this gem on RUclips.
Is there any way you can play this now a days? I remember you could "open it with an older version of windows" but i dont think thats possible anymore. Is there a way i could play this classic game again on a modern PC/Mac?
I’m honestly surprised we haven’t gotten many video games set in the Vietnam war in the last couple generations of gaming. CoD Black Ops and it’s latest reboots have some levels set in Vietnam but not exclusively.
Loved this game, definitely suffered from some common issues at the time but the atmosphere and gameplay were solid. Also reminded me alot of Tour of Duty a TV show I used to love as kid
The very first games I’ve ever played is that Black Hawk Down and a Vietnam War game called Marine Heavy Gunner: Vietnam
Delta Force black hawk down was so much fun, ill check out that Vietnam game
Love it, and still play to this day. Still my favourite nam game along with sog prairie fire cDLC.
I got Purple Haze: Vietcong for Xbox from Blockbuster back when I was like about 7 or 8? All the other kids had the new Xbox 360 by then and I was still playing OG Games haha
If y’all remember seeing NBK’s clan servers on top list, you know what’s up
I do not know what's up but I admire your nostalgia
Nah we whooped NBKs clan folk all the time. Respectfully, [RS]Hannibal
@@Billyd4Reellol nbk be having multiple full servers of 50 players, never had I say anything bout how good they were. I’m not sure I can say that bout RS clan
@@YamahaR6xr NBK had servers later, but we were there!
Remember Greens? nGG ?
This was amongs the very first games that I have played when I was 6 years old, still the best campaign from any Vietnam game, fun fact: it was supposed to be a Rambo game but devs did not get the license. Also for anyone interested do not forget to play First Alpha expansion!
I will be sure to check out that expansion
@@Tantwo yeah it's called Fist Alpha (not first, my bad) basically it's a prequel to the main game where Nui Pek is just being built and you play as Douglas, I believe he was mentioned in the first 5 minutes of the main game in the helicopter.
i remember using the hack for unlimited ammo in the underground missions, because i couldn't just make the sticks glow, but also drop them on the floor
I remember playing the coop mode on xbox a lot as a kid. I didn't think anyone else remembered this game.
didn't play it as a kid, but got recommended to play it
Back in the days, ive missed Vietcong and played Line of sight Vietnam, and elite warriors: Vietnam
Damn..Vietcong is such a great game to play.
Having played the game relatively recently I can confirm that it has a great atmosphere. You *know* the enemy is there but you can never really tell where until you're dead.
Sadly for me I could only beat it using an extremely crappy laptop and the frequent slideshow periods didn't have a positive effect on the immersion. (Any time when more than 3 characters were shooting at the same time it would freeze)
The main tunnel mission is a serious brainfuck. After you reach some point there are multiple paths you can take, and all of them except for one take you to the beggining of that 'sublevel'. And yes, there are traps in the tunnels aswell.
Also, to me, the Czech dubbed version seems a lot better than the English one.
I remember playing this game with my dad,
The gore wounds, aim down sight, everything is good in this game, I prefer Vietcong 1 over Vietcong 2, Vietcong 2 is kinda downgraded imo
Besides multiplayer if i remember, enjoyed the jungle setting in 1 over the urban setting in 2 but i love both ngl
this is a hidden gem indeed. Gonna check it out
This game remastered with the RS2 Engine would be amazing 👌
damn right it would be
Do you like recent conflicts like the global war on terror? i hope you cover Six Days in Fallujah, i love your videos, one the few honest gaming channels out there.
thanks for the kind words! and 6 days in fallujah is definetly something I would like to cover
I was working in another team in the office next to Vietcong team office (I was in Hidden&Dangerous team). It's like eternity already :)
After more than 20 years in few other companies I'm working with couple of people from the original Vietcong team today :)
Whaaaat... In all seriousness, both Vietcong and H&D were my childhood games and I'm damn so proud of my fellow countrymen pulling this shit out, none of the modern games I've played, and I've played a lot, were this advanced and deep in their mechanics. Maybe Arma but that's again, Czech 😂 Do you happen to have any insight about why these kind of complex games are not made anymore? Besides soulless cash grabbing?
I loved Vietcong. It was one of the first multiplayer games I played in earnest.
pretty sure Ingame studios is working on something similiar if you check their website ingamestudios.com/
I still play this game quite regularly as well as it's DLCs
Did you find any open servers for multiplayer?
Elite Warriors Vietnam was my first game and it's closest to my heart ever since....
You should try out; Hidden and Dangerous 2, a really good game which seems similar to this one. I have a faint memory of this game, but it was so hard with all the traps (me being 9 at the time) xD Nice to see this old gem again!
If anyone else is having a game, for old times sake, then reply here - if we can get a few then I'd definitely open a server!
Let's do it! I still have all the old disc's
Damn, my father was really addicted to this and I was just a teenager back then. hahahaha
I played this in the late 2000's but it still felt ahead of its time, especially compared to the COD games that were coming out then. This game could use a remaster.
This game was also awesome online and had great blood spatter which isn’t shown in this version.
I played this. It was pretty difficult, but enjoyed it.
There is still people playing online everyday! You can even find good coop custom missions with 10/15 players on it
💯💯💯
goes to show you how good the game is
@@Tantwo one of my all time favorites 🙏
Where and what servers?
no UI when for switching weapons or searching bodies ....and keep your head down....love this game
This game had me at the stooges playing at the main menu. Awesome awesome game.
Thanks, now I have to replay it for the nth time
I mean depending on what type of unit it is aspecially with stuff such as macv sog a lot of interesting and unique weapons were used.
4:30 I noticed some VC would charge, then go prone. Then another line would charge, go prone, then a 3rd line would charge and they'd all stand up and run at me at once. Noticed that on the first level and was fairly impressed. Not sure if that was just.... randomly how it worked out or if it's an actual behavior programmed. I dug it though. Game is so janky on Xbox though. Aiming is.... tough.
One of my all time favourites
Sealed copy of Vietcong was sold for 2000usd last year in czechia.
bruh wtf
@@TantwoIts a cult classic. Lots of Czechs in the multiplayer. The gane sold over 1 million copies, which for a European country that just recently got out of communism is a major succes. The game was and is epic, too bad gamespy went down.
What I did enjoy about this game where some small details you did not have in other FPS games at that time.
Aiming over some cover would have your guy use the cover to also rest the gun ontop for more stable shooting.
Thats something some modern games get praise for...it is not even something new.
vietcong (hardest difficulty) 3mouths of love-hate releationship.... gamers preparation for an Italian marrige. My personal expyrience... i loved it anyway. It was very realistic and quite GORY btw.