The New Heatsink Backplate From JSAUX Was NOT What I Expected...The Best/Worst ROG ALLY Backplate?

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @AunbisandArid
    @AunbisandArid 9 месяцев назад +6

    I got this a few days ago! Didn’t do any dedicated tests but definitely brought down the temps below 80 when I was getting 90 before hand! Mine didn’t flop out of place. The thermal pads stick in place pretty solid . Maybe you just got a bad one. I’m enjoying the product .

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      Watch the video I just dropped. It may give more insight

    • @VeegovonDOOM
      @VeegovonDOOM 8 месяцев назад

      I just ordered it because of what you posted

  • @19CD91
    @19CD91 9 месяцев назад +5

    @21:20 thermal saturation is what you are looking for.

  • @JsmashTech
    @JsmashTech 9 месяцев назад +12

    was kinda hoping this wouldve been a good product when I saw that thermal plate. lol maybe they'll make another revision with a more active cooling design.

  • @ControllerSupported
    @ControllerSupported 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the video. I had bought the Jsaux heatsink and was going to try to put it on while keeping the HandheldDIY back shell on... but it looks like the best results came from keeping the thermal pad on and not using the Jsaux heat sink.... that's a surprise to me!

  • @SacKingJOSER916
    @SacKingJOSER916 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'm here for the long videos ❤ it's better that way 🙏🏽 no apologies needed

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Heck yeah thank you so much !!!

  • @maafchai
    @maafchai 9 месяцев назад +2

    The reason I picked the jsaux clear back over the handhelddiy was because the bottom edge on my diy shell was sharp and dug into my palms. The jsaux isnt perfect either though.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +2

      I’d contact handhelddiy and have them swap it out. Tell them I sent you.

  • @gvii
    @gvii 9 месяцев назад +1

    Even if you can keep it from leaking out from underneath the heatsink, the biggest problem with the liquid metal is that it eventually alloys itself with the metal of the heatsink and turns it to crap. It's similar to the effect of mercury coming into contact with aluminum. It eventually alloys with the aluminum and the aluminum becomes incredibly brittle and just crumbles. I don't know exactly what it does to copper, but you can see in the one picture you put up where it alloyed there too. You'll eventually end up needing to replace the heatsink either way. It's really interesting stuff and incredibly good as a thermal interface material. It's the best thing out there if your thing is putting up crazy OC numbers, but just not worth the trouble it brings if you want to use it as a long term solution since you'll be forced to replace the cooler at some point when the liquid metal alloys the cooler block.
    As for that heatsink, I have some double sided thermal tape that would work really well for that kind of thing. But once it sets, you're probably not getting it back off that heatpipe without mangling that heatpipe. The stuff sticks almost like epoxy after it has been through a few thermal cycles. But I don't think I would bother with it. The HandheldDIY backplate has been great as far as I'm concerned.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      Check out the video I just dropped. It goes over it in detail with 2280 options and current fitment issues

  • @CraShRO
    @CraShRO 8 месяцев назад +1

    It works with the 2280 angled adapter, just remove the heatsink from the ssd and modify the thermal pad so it sits nice on the ssd and on the cpu heatpipe, easy.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  8 месяцев назад

      Yes but not for every nvme drive and also there are some caveats. I put an update video after this you should watch and make sure you don’t notice those things.

  • @soapmactony141
    @soapmactony141 9 месяцев назад +1

    How about try to do some combination with the Jsaux heatsink and handheldDIY backplate? I'm really curious about the temperature will be lower or no change. Please test it, thanks.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +2

      Would require a lot of cutting on the handhedldiy backplate to fit and also you can’t use a 2280 which is primarily what I use. The temps on the handheld diy backplate are already epic when gaming. Max temps I see are around 60-70c at full 30w manual with alll boost enabled using the handhelddiy backplate

  • @TechTokOffical
    @TechTokOffical 9 месяцев назад +1

    It looks like you have been mounting a semiconducting cooler to the back. It's something I tried but think the dust cover stops it from doing anything. Also that it needed something like this heatsink to make the contact it would need

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      I’ve tested a few coolers on the backplate. The handhelddiy one works the best since it’s actually got metal on the backplate and the thermal pad does transfer heat as you can see in the benchmarks I’ve shown later in the video. I strongly recommend it.

  • @jschmidt96
    @jschmidt96 29 дней назад +1

    I want to get this backplate and upgrade the ally to a 74wh battery. Then I don't have to cut the tabs on the original backplate.

  • @ajv6669
    @ajv6669 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks another great One. Maybe another video would be a 2080 inside, with better thicker thermal pads on the jasux heatsink. Wonder what the temps would be...

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      I mentioned that it would be impossible to use a 2280 with this heatsink. I also mentioned I normally use a heatsink and a 2280 drive on the handheld diy backplate. 1000% watch that video because you’ll see the optimal configuration

    • @ajv6669
      @ajv6669 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek whoops yep you did that! Thanks for clearing that up... Although if anyone could make it fit it would be you 😜 again thanks for all the hard work your videos are always thorough.

  • @2011jaydog
    @2011jaydog 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you use one of those cell phone coolers right in the middle of the back there...love to know if it helps!! I've get a heatsink on my ally about like the jsaux but smaller, but wondered if you see any difference..I use a cooler on mine and 10w mode , always seen 38degrees my lowest, after running my cell phone cooler I seen 34,35 degrees, I've seen 33degrees on it b4 too, just wonder if I can make it a little better..thinner thermal pad and remove the black plastic? I love how it runs ..

  • @emptybodyfm
    @emptybodyfm 8 месяцев назад

    A combination of both the vent that came in with the back plate J whatever it’s called and the last one tested would have been a good idea as it would have helped cool both passively through the added heatsink and the metal vent on the actual backplate

  • @aotearoagaming
    @aotearoagaming 9 месяцев назад +1

    What about both combined? Jsaux heatsink with handheld diy backplate? Surely it would conduct heat away from the cpu better than the massively chonky thermal pad. Love the video’s

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      It won’t fit. I tried. There’s gunna need to be some cutting done on the handheld diy backplate. Plus the temps with the hhdiy are 60-70c when gaming at full power. And I need that 2280 support. I’ll try it on the next video since I’ve had people ask tho

    • @aotearoagaming
      @aotearoagaming 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek I rock the 2280 mod as well with the ekwb nvme heatsink as well. Just ordered a handheld diy backplate. Will take 10 years to get to my neck of the woods. I was tempted to try mounting a low profile noctua cpu cooler directly to the APU but I can’t justify cutting up the only rear casing I have for the ally. Keep up the awesome content man really stoaked to have found your channel.

  • @NR21JB
    @NR21JB Месяц назад +1

    Can the handheld diy plate support 2280 adapter without cutting anything? Thanks!

  • @Copesetik-pe1xk
    @Copesetik-pe1xk 9 месяцев назад +2

    Now put the heat sink in, and put the handheld DIY back on with the thermal pad bridging the two metal components for pressure.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Check the discord. I did. It’s not worth it so far. Requires lots of cutting

  • @JayWilliamson430
    @JayWilliamson430 3 месяца назад

    could that big chunk of a thermal pad not be replaced with a big old metal block and then a thinner pad to just ensure connection?

  • @GamingForInsight
    @GamingForInsight 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I appreciate you going into the detail about the heatsync - astute find indeed seeing it wasn’t staying fastened as it should due to insufficient pressure. I always appreciate the informative perspective on your videos.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you brudduh ❤️🤠

  • @JsmashTech
    @JsmashTech 9 месяцев назад +1

    What if you used the Heatsink from Jsaux with a modified pad from HandheldDIY to make it thinner and the backplate of HandheldDIY. would that be the ultimate setup?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Too many clearance issues. Would require goood bit of cutting of the hhdiy backplate to make it work by the looks of it. Plus still would need thermal pad and then it also prevents the use of a 2280 nvme which was the bigger drawback for me and many. I think what would work though is possibly getting a bandsaw and hacking this thing in half length wise and making room for the nvme and then it might serve some purpose but minimal I’d assume. I may test it if I get a bandsaw

    • @JsmashTech
      @JsmashTech 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek sounds like a fun and interesting experiment

  • @gawinnnn5276
    @gawinnnn5276 5 месяцев назад +1

    jsaux backplate and handheld diy backplate, which one is better and has better heat dissipation?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  5 месяцев назад

      Handhelddiy is the best imo and I’ve been using those primarily on both my rog ally’s and have the best temps. They also feel way better

  • @timmywitaburner3698
    @timmywitaburner3698 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video but I'm sticking with handheld DIY but the only regret I have with them I went with the white one I'm going to order the see through clear one

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Handhelddiy is far better anyways as the video comes to the conclusion of and testing data proves it

  • @LightwarriorRz
    @LightwarriorRz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video testing bruv. Do you then recommend the purple backplate with the headpad?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  7 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed. The purp is way better in many ways overall

  • @golden76xbhai13
    @golden76xbhai13 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, can anyone check the thickness of the silicone thermal pad supplied with the Handhelddiy backplate? Much appreciated.

  • @DaveLittle81
    @DaveLittle81 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey CPPC, have you found a way to use the 2230 chonky heatsink with the handheld DIY backplate? I wasn't able to put the backplate on with the heatsink and wondered if you had more luck?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      Yes actually drop by the discord and ping me and I’ll show you

  • @MrGetemGone
    @MrGetemGone 8 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to buy a thermal pad as thick as the one handheldDIY provided with their back cover? I goofed and bought that thermal plate from jsaux which I didn't know they sold by itself which is good because I already have the back plate but you stated that you need to add pressure to it so it won't move so I wanna experiment try something similar to what you did👍🏾

  • @atmphil1
    @atmphil1 4 месяца назад

    What would happen if you cut a plate of copper or aluminum and just slapped it in the middle with some thermal pads????
    Or even better drill some holes through it for better heat dissipation.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  4 месяца назад +1

      Will drop 1-3c if done correctly.

  • @toweleeielite
    @toweleeielite 9 месяцев назад +1

    i made me own with same back plate and a gigabyte heatsink and some serious thermal pads....... works a treat! max CPU with CPU boost on is 84c, never seen the GPU over 66c hahaha.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      When gaming at 30w I’m around 60-65c with boost on with my daily driver config but when you run cinebench it pushes the cpu to the max and you can see later in the video the results of 3 dif configs.

  • @brandonybarra6595
    @brandonybarra6595 9 месяцев назад +1

    have an ignorant/wierd question. judging by your content hopefully you or your community can help. so i noticed previously if i set up a custom fan curve on armory crate it then provides a additional option within the command center (manual with sliders). but if i dont ever create a custom that never shows up which i prefer(just shows 10,15,25) is there a way for me to disable it showing up in command center? removing the custom doesnt change it. as soon as a custom is created those sliders are permently there. not looking to uninstall/ reinstall cuz it will delete my controller layouts. I want to use a custom curve for testing a couple games on 30 watt but i dont want to permently have one more option to scroll through just to test a couple games.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      Drop by the discord. Either I or one of the bros can make you a quick video on how to set a proper fan curve up

    • @brandonybarra6595
      @brandonybarra6595 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek ill try and join the group. not looking for help setting up fan curve though. just a way to disable it from command center. disabling it in armory crate doesnt remove manual from command center.

  • @kunfushun
    @kunfushun 9 месяцев назад +1

    Does handheldDIY sell the metal plate on its own that can be attached/modded to the original backplate as i dont need a transparent back since i use a full cover grip case

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      No it’s riveted to the backplate but if you went a white oem+ looking one you can get it on their website and even use my code cppctek to save a few bucks.
      Also you can still use grips and grip cases on the handhelddiy backplates too since it’s the same dimensions 1:1

  • @BroodyGen
    @BroodyGen 9 месяцев назад +1

    So you're saying that its impossibile using a 2280 L shape adapter with this heatsink?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      I just tested it. There’s a way to
      Make it work but you won’t have contact with the the apu heat pipe at all so it defeats the purpose of the entire thing unless you add more thermal pads to make it work on the apu heat pipe also.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      Update ^

    • @BroodyGen
      @BroodyGen 9 месяцев назад

      I order mine, I will try once I'll get it

  • @Wyse-Gaming
    @Wyse-Gaming 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hello, How does your Ally reach 53 watts? I have mine exactly as yours and followed the same setting you did on manual mode. Am I missing something? at most I could reach is 23ish. Thank you :)

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  7 месяцев назад

      Are you plugged in ? Do you see the 30w turbo option in the pop up options menu ?

    • @Wyse-Gaming
      @Wyse-Gaming 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@cppctek Yes. I have the 120W Anker GanPrime and it does give me manual 53w. All maxed out.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  7 месяцев назад

      If you’re only seeing 23 it’s one of two things. Either the game you play isn’t needing anymore, cpu boost is disabled or there’s potentially thermal limits being hit and it can’t boost that high. What id do is open cinebench, plug in and set to 30w turbo, run the test. Drop in my discord and show me what your results are. Also time spy is another good test if you have it. That way I can gauge and see if your having some performance loss some where. I use also hwinfo to monitor and log temps in background while running benchmarks and it will even tell you if your thermally throttling. Open it and check box for sensors only if it’s the first time using it

    • @Wyse-Gaming
      @Wyse-Gaming 7 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek Hi, CPU boost is enabled. Also I meant I did exactly like the cinebench HWInfo just as your video. That's why I asked initially on how come your's boosted to 53w :)

  • @SamS-ef5ez
    @SamS-ef5ez 9 месяцев назад +1

    Please give rating which one is good ??

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      the handhelddiy model is the best. I would not buy the jsaux. if you watch the video you will see which one is good.

  • @jim7019
    @jim7019 2 месяца назад

    Has anyone tried the cellphone/tablet semiconductor fans that have refrigeration chips in them? You can get them in a few places but I believe they are from China. I ordered one, I'm afraid it will cause condensation inside the Ally. I will probably do a test first.

  • @graelstream2353
    @graelstream2353 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hello good sir, can you try the heatsink mod on the ally x?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  5 месяцев назад +1

      It wont fit. The layout is different in so many ways. The temps on the ally x are already extremely good

    • @graelstream2353
      @graelstream2353 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@cppctek still waiting for the ally x to be available to us locally. Thanks for giving me a heads up on the heatsink. Personally I just like how cool it looks plus more cooling doesn't hurt I guess haha xD

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  5 месяцев назад +1

      @graelstream2353 with no cooling mods I’m sitting here playing mw3 online at 25w and my temp is 60c lol 😂 I even water cooled an og ally btw and dropping it down to 30c still didn’t net any more performance. Below 60c and you’ve reached the point of diminishing returns. It’s nearly just bragging right and flexing if you go any lower because it’s already safe even in the 80s or 70s but 60s is infinitely better

    • @graelstream2353
      @graelstream2353 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@cppctek dang those temps are insane man, is it recommended to repaste the ally x as soon as I get it? I do have some PTM7950 lying around the house.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  5 месяцев назад

      @graelstream2353 don’t do it. It’s perfect ! You’ll make it worse by re pasting it. It already comes with ptm

  • @locomotora35
    @locomotora35 5 месяцев назад +1

    which Logitech mouse is that you using ?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  5 месяцев назад

      G502 x

  • @Chaselockhart2
    @Chaselockhart2 9 месяцев назад +1

    Whats the device setting on top of your hub on the left?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      The nvme enclosure? It’s just a 2230 enclosure.

    • @Chaselockhart2
      @Chaselockhart2 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek Crazy, looks like something cool i could use for a cyberdeck. thanks man
      love the vids!

  • @ezg8448
    @ezg8448 8 месяцев назад

    Disappointing product, the stickiness IMO isn't a big issue, because I don't expect much from thermal putty. But the lack of force pushing the plate is.
    I got their backplate and I like it, this feels like a half-baked product.
    I think just ordering a big, thick piece of good quality thermal putty is a better idea and could net you better temps too (there's an idea for a follow up video!).

  • @Falcon-nq3lx
    @Falcon-nq3lx 6 месяцев назад

    Do you advise me to buy a heat sink? Yes or no? Please reply

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  6 месяцев назад

      Heatsink for the nvme ? What backplate do you currently have ? What kind of drive do you have.

    • @horticultural261
      @horticultural261 5 месяцев назад

      @@cppctekcan it use with the original back plate

  • @MrShivedragon
    @MrShivedragon 9 месяцев назад +1

    thers a screw at the top... prety shure that Will help to good It in place

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Nope there’s no screw hole actually and there’s only a huge spot where the stand off goes right through. Zero and I mean zero pressure is applied when all screws are tight. Zero bud. Zero

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      11:56 you can clearly see me screwing in all the screws. There’s no where else for screws to go. Trust me on that. I made perfectly sure not to miss that detail because surely it would trigger people.

  • @BigDaddyKai620
    @BigDaddyKai620 6 месяцев назад +1

    Handy DIY mod is the best😊. Basically night and day I can hear my games without the ROG screaming at me

  • @gamers-generation
    @gamers-generation 9 месяцев назад +1

    "On the inside is what really counts"... is this a shot at synthetics???

  • @lieu_
    @lieu_ 8 месяцев назад

    It is funny that you put the wrong backplate back down because they're so similar except for the button on the RGB one lmao, wonder if that's why it wasn't fully sitting in place since you used the wrong backplate

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  8 месяцев назад

      The jsaux backplates are identical brother

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  8 месяцев назад

      If you don’t believe me. Dm me on discord I’ll break out my dial calipers and laser measure the entire thing and every single clip and every single point on both!

  • @rphntw1n
    @rphntw1n 9 месяцев назад +2

    Subbed for the memes.

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yee thanks ❤️🤠

  • @JhustineProvido
    @JhustineProvido 9 месяцев назад +3

    my favorite youtuber!

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      ❤️🤠❤️🤠

  • @cdla14
    @cdla14 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome vid I guess I would have never known that thing wasn’t so good it’s very counterintuitive 😅

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I know you could feel my hope
      And excitement at the start. I tried so hard to
      Give it every advantage possible. Handhelddiy still wins

    • @cdla14
      @cdla14 9 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek Sure! Looking forward to more vids like these!

  • @Rich-b3b
    @Rich-b3b 9 месяцев назад +1

    i can confirm what he says is true people. NO TURD IN MY POCKET HERE....lol as usual, great content brotha

  • @1030eev
    @1030eev 9 месяцев назад +1

    Your videos are golden nuggets in my pocket.😂

  • @rlp333
    @rlp333 8 месяцев назад +4

    Just get to the point. The added clips are annoying AF!

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  8 месяцев назад +1

      A lot of people come here for the memes

  • @eKoV11
    @eKoV11 9 месяцев назад +2

    the smacking is to much for me please drink water...

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад

      lol water is all I drink. I was being goofy.

  • @ksrnate
    @ksrnate 9 месяцев назад +1

    Caveat!

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +1

      def has a few

    • @ksrnate
      @ksrnate 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@cppctek You say it in every video 🤣

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  9 месяцев назад +2

      @ksrnate it’s a nice word and fortunately since nearly every product has one I get to be sure to mention that lol.

  • @beauhendershot8920
    @beauhendershot8920 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hey brother can you just tell me what cooling back plate to get. I don’t wanna fuck up my device. I really want to take good care of it. What one do I buy

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  7 месяцев назад +1

      My fav one is the handhelddiy brand.

    • @beauhendershot8920
      @beauhendershot8920 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@cppctek awesome I’m gonna check it out. I don’t know anything about any of this, never had a gaming pc before. I got the Ally to replace my switch. It it difficult to replace parts myself? I want to put a 2TB internal SSD in, is that difficult to do? I don’t want to fuck anything up. Also installing this heat sink, if I am careful and watch tutorials do you think I could do it on my own? Or should I take it to someone with experience

    • @beauhendershot8920
      @beauhendershot8920 7 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek I’m gonna order the handhelddiy on Amazon, is there any way I can support you? Is there an affiliate link to order it?

    • @cppctek
      @cppctek  7 месяцев назад +1

      @beauhendershot8920 it’s pretty easy. I’ve got a good bit of videos covering a lot of mods and some of the videos you may have to dig around to find the details but the hhdiy backplate a very easy mod to do and very safe. Drops temps and improves lifespan having lower temps and looks better too. I’ve done videos on the hhdiy backplate you should go watch and you will find them very useful

    • @beauhendershot8920
      @beauhendershot8920 7 месяцев назад

      @@cppctek perfect. You’re awesome man. Do you have any tutorials on how to adjust the settings? I’ve read that there are lots of different modes and setting to tweak to make it run differently. Is that a complicated process? I don’t want it running on supercharged mode all the time lmfao. Most the games I’m gonna play aren’t gonna need super high settings.