What are the health benefits of expanding ULEZ to outer London?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- There’s also been an almighty row recently over the expansion of ULEZ - Ultra Low Emissions Zone to cover the whole of London. What are the health benefits?
Our FactCheck team has been looking at the evidence.
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How does this work when there are two international airports within this zone?
What are the health benefits of expanding ULEZ to outer London?
1: Can't see my brother now as he hasn't got a ULEZ compliant car so depressed about that.
2: My 80 year old Auntie hasn't got a ULEZ compliant car, says she's now housebound and can't go out so I'm depressed about that.
3: Mate is now stuck with a non compliant car so won't be seeing him much now so depressed about that.
4: Sold my car as it wasn't compliant after listening to experts that said buy diesel, so no car now so depressed about that.
Cheers Mr Khan, you've done wonders for my mental health...including my family & friends.👍
Why don’t your relatives use the scrappage scheme? Who wouldn’t prefer a newer car? Especially if it doesn’t actually cost them anything beyond the time it takes to fill out the application and go car shopping?!
Surely you know it wasn't Mayor Khan's idea? Of course, he's fully behind it but it was originally the brainchild of a certain Boris Johnson.
Cars aren’t the only means of travel.
@@ffotograffyddyou retarted?? Go read the scrappage scheme in detail!!!
@@ffotograffyddSo simple. I wonder why people don't do that....
It's not as simple as it might seem. You see, the scrappage scheme might sound like a fantastic deal on the surface, but there are a few factors at play here.
Not everyone has the financial resources to go car shopping and deal with all the paperwork that comes with it. Buying a new car, even with the scheme's pitiful incentives, can be a lengthy and costly process that involves research, test drives, and haggling with dealers.
Secondly, the £2,000 offered by the scrappage scheme might not go very far when it comes to purchasing a newer, ULEZ-compliant car. These cars tend to be quite expensive, and while the scheme helps, it might not be enough to bridge the financial gap for many families.
And as for the alternative option, an annual Oyster card, well, that's about as valuable as trading in your vintage wine collection for a single bottle of vinegar. It's like trying to swap your trusty steed for a rusty tricycle - utterly incomparable in value. The idea of parting with your cherished automobile in exchange for something as trivial as a public transportation pass is, dare I say, rather preposterous
Poor man tax scam
The poor can't afford cars, whether compliant or not. Personally, I would prefer non-compliant vehicles to be banned outright, rather than allowed if the owner pays, but I believe that would have been deemed illegal.
my motorhome is 15 pound ulsez, 300 in central London ? just a money making scam !
WRONG! for clean air you’d need more trees and green spaces to produce clean air. However the ULEZ money doesn’t go towards developing green spaces nor does it go to health organisations, it’s quoted to all on TfL expansion.
London has plenty of green spaces!
Air doesn’t start off dirty, and it’s good the cash goes to TFL as that also helps congestion and clean air.
Trees only filter out CO2, which is not the problem from a health point of view, it's the NOX, sulphates, particulates and hydrocarbons which are the problem and trees whill not have any effect on them.
Based on an annual mileage of 10,000 the average car would need just over 6 fully grown, large trees to cancel out it's CO2 emissions. You can fit 1000 trees in a single acre so to balance out the CO2 emissions of just 100,000 cars, you would need 600 acres of forest. Not really practical is it?
@dondoodat donny presents as some form of a tragic low grade TFL employee, tasked with attempting social media damage limitation exercises 😂
How does being allowed to drive into an ulez zone and paying £12.50 clean the air. The wrong sector is being targeted and it's just a tax on innocent motorists whereas other environmental factors affect lungs like mould in homes, dust blowing over from the Sahara, incinerators to name a few. Ulez is a scam, sham and extortion of the motorist and nothing to do with clean air.
There isn't any benefits. They're just charging people to polute the air.
I'm good with that.
God bless the Bladerunners.♥️
If an area is virtually rural anyway, like parts of south London, what possible benefit can this bring?
.... it would benefit the government by generating alot of money. Health benefits for people, probably negligible
@dondoodat you’re making the very argument against having an arbitrary ‘clean air zone’ where one street is in and the next isn’t. Only areas of significant congestion and dense buildings (eg Central London) can justify such a zone.
@@Bungle-UK aye, not very bright is he ?
probably goes to bed at night dreaming about how much his £12.50 has ‘hELpEd tHE eNviRoNMEnT’ 🤦🏽♂️
More income for the BANK OF KAHN!!! 🤣
@dondoodat woosh
🦉🐯 After the ULEZ expansion I've seen many more people waiting for a bus to get them to work which is already full. I've also been dangerously overtaken by motorists who don't like me following the 20mph limit (I usually catch up to them at the lights).
ban diesel buses first. they should get their own house in order..1 diesel bus ruins the air quality way more than cars
If you want to stop people being poisoned to death close the tube....
The underground is hazardous to health its terrible down there.
It's a completely different problem, caused by decades of accumulated dust, which is being addressed as funds allow. Electric trains are part of the solution.
Rising levels of obesity in the UK population is what is causing most chronic illnesses (physical & mental) leading to early deaths. Sort that out first if you are seriously interested in people's health.
You can choose what you eat, assuming you can afford to choose fresh, unprocessed food, but you have to breathe the air that's present in your city. You fix the obesity problem through education and improving people's access to good nutrition. How about if the tabloids serialised useful books, like those written by Jack Monroe? Simply labelling ultra-processed food products would be a start.
Sort out your own personal responsibilities if you don't want a nanny state
LTNs help that.
Their argument doesn’t make sense. Public health is dependant on multiple factors, and alleged clean air alone won’t improve public health.
People need good quality, nutrition dense foods, better work life balance, less stress and shelter. It’s amazing what these things could do to improve health outcomes, but let’s just focus on cars and traffic.
@@jaijai5250 clean air does improve health, and mentioning other health issues as if it’s preventing them being addressed because clean air is being addressed is non sequitur reasoning.
It's not about the money??? Over 8 million extra revenue already. Come on blade runners 🌬️🔨
Health benefits are the last thing that the WEF care about. It's all about increasing human misery and bringing in 15 minute city utopia.
Everyone used to live in a 15 minute area. It was called local shops. Supermarkets wrecked that. No one was prevented from leaving the area.
Wef does not run London.
Grow up.
@@julianshepherd2038I’m not convinced you’re right.
What a load of claptrap. Clearly you’re not allowed with scissors…
@@Jozman2005 excellent rebuttal. If all you can do is insult the man, you’ve proven what you really are.
Well said. It’s not about money. It’s about control of the serfs and peasants. Sadly those serfs are heralding their imminent misery.
the question i want to know is how many people have private cars that have to pay, as i suspect most modern cars are within the ULEZ no pay requirement
More than you might think, especially diesel. And many that would usually enter the zone for work.
Those who own cars that don’t meet the criteria can make use of the scrappage scheme to purchase one that does. But some people would rather complain than take advantage of a scheme that will buy them a newer car!
@@dirtyjamster I think you're mistaken. Very few cars fail to meet the requirements. The fuss is being made by a tiny but very vocal minority, while the vast majority of Londoners benefit from the cleaner air.
Certainly petrol vehicles over 17 years old,. However, "modern" is pretty relative when you consider you have to get to 2016/2017 models for diesels with the blu/urea additive systems. Most private owners would consider a 2016 vehicle relatively modern. A large number of relatively new diesel vehicles also include the WAV (Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle) where many are used just outside the ULEZ but regularly cross over.
@@ffotograffydd No they cant if thy live relatively close to, but not inside ULEZ yet travel for them will be a nightmare and there will be no scrappage scheme for them.
A Tory speaking up for the poor. Well I never.....
that is simple discrimination on the basis of wealth.
Those who can pay circulate, those who cannot pay are penalized
I gave up on London as I spend days coughing up dirt after visiting
You must be a soft northerner.
@@hmq9052He’s got a point, thousands of people die each year because of pollution, and many thousands more suffer long term health issues.
@@ffotograffydd ‘because of pollution’
@@ItsJustRyan89 Are you making a point?
@@ffotograffydd quite.
And increase hospital admissions through causing people stress on their financial worries
Silly opinion
@@momurda6😂🤣😂 silly opinion? Yeah ….because areas has no impact on health outcomes. I’d say it’s pertinent.
Instead of punishing those without, why not reward those with ?
What, the billionaires? The Tories have never believed in a free anything.
@@Jozman2005 none of it’s ‘free’.
They’re hardly punishing people, the scrappage scheme covers the cost of a replacement used car that complies with the requirements.
@@ffotograffydd £10,000 doesn’t get a lot of car these days.
@@ItsJustRyan89 It buys a used car that complies with the ULEZ requirements though. Which is going to be an improvement on those cars that don’t currently!
Wow..
This is like an actual science lesson with loads of statistics… for the feeble minded
Where did Channel 4 dig those two up from? Both of them are useless!
Oh FFS! Enough of that nonsense that the poor suffer more from air pollution!!! Is air pollution avoiding somehow rich people!?! So to solve that, we tax the people that can least afford to change to a newer compliant vehicles?!?! Come on!
By how much did the introduction of 20mph zones across London increase pollution across the city?
You don’t live in London.
Given it’s difficult to actually get up to 20mph in most of London, it probably not at all.
@@ffotograffydd don’t upset the people that are living outside London how want to control us Londoners. We should listen to these brexiteers who want to take back control of London and take it away.
The old guy is a total twonk. The Tories suddenly caring about the poor!
the only thing ULEZ will improve is the Pocket depth of Sadiq C...T and his cronies.
I'm all for cleaner air. Climate change or not, vehicle emissions are bad for health. However, fining people for polluting is no good if you don't offer them an alternative. All of the revenue from this should be spent on subsidising or re-nationalising public transport
You don't hear about people adversely affected until they want to change society.
And turn London into a go go area. The sooner that happens the better.
I love go go areas
The main benefit of ULEZ as I see it that Kahn will be voted out by Londoners at the first available opportunity. 🤣
i spent 20 years in central london. driving was usually a bummer cos of the traffic so riding a bike made more and more sense (also roller blades, also longboarding), though when you ride a bike the air was dirty from all the cars. I never thought it would get better but here we are, if only incrementally. How about more trees as well as less cars?
Trees is an article about extra trees to improve air quality which suggests that there isn't enough space in London to plant enough trees to make any noticeable difference
Fraudulent nonsense.
Can you explain why Glasgow's ULEZ scheme has failed?
10% increase in NO2 since inception 12 months ago.
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A document from the office that introduced the scheme…
That will definitely be impartial,objective and truthful then…
Coming to a town near you.
Not mine it's not.
@@barbarahalkyard1901 where do you live?
Good
@@coppershark1973 don’t be thick
Coming to the whole country, I hope. Don't you want to breathe clean air? Maybe you're a smoker or a vaper?
Most of a car's particulate emissions are caused by brakes. Even electric cars have brakes.
Also, if car pollution is so bad, then why can people choose to pollute for just £12.50 a day?
Especially when London is one of the cleanest cities in the world when it comes to air quality....
You don’t live in London.
@@nicksimmons7234irrelevant, they're correct.
@@dirtyjamster best to leave Londoners to decide how clean we what our air. Not people who don’t live here. Now run along.
London is cleaner now than it was precisely because of ULEZ.
ULEZ compliant EV batteries made in Xian China - typical AQI caused significantly by increasing power support industry demands ~ steadily 160 - 200+ (Dangerous) .. many for cars used within London's ULEZ - Putney - 30, Lewisham - 32, Oxford St 32 (all in the good range). Certainly some of the inner London heavily populated boroughs may occasionally exceed 100 but most of London currently is consistently in the Good - Moderate range. Source: The World Air Quality Index current snapshot .
If He is soo happy with the benefits why he doesn't clean the air in the Underground ?
People be like: " Air pollution is killing babies!! We demand action!!"
People also be like: " We demand the right to drive our cars and poison the air!! NO to nanny state!!""
Clearly you haven’t spent years finding the right car for yourself only to be now told you now have to get rid of it for a fraction of the price and buy a new one for an extortionate amount of money. I’ll just magic some money into existence 😊
Can you explain a significant rise in lung cancer, particularly in women, over the last 20 years of clean air improvement?
They seem to have forgotten that smoking has a disastrous impact on breathing. I’ve seen lots of mothers smoking in cars, with children present. But that is negligible.
Stockholm, the city where the petrol and diesel car ban is being enforced, will from the end of 2024 be split into regions where petrol and diesel cars can and can’t travel. And unlike the London ULEZ, there is no fee to pay should you need to travel within one of the defined zones, you simply won’t be allowed to.
Where's the evidence of birds, animals and insects adversely affected by unclean air?
I don't see birds dropping out of the sky caused by poor air quality.
I can't believe I'm being asked to be okay with this inconvenience just because it will save some people's lives. What about my rights to poison the air!?
No it won't blessings all
It benefits politicians pockets
And what if none of that is true
I am reminded of my dangly bits.
if sadiq khan really believed that airs as bad as he claims it is he wouldn't own a range rover v8 5.0 , ulez supporters talk about how the airs bad because of cars yet most of them own cars them selves , if you believe cars are causing so many problems then you wouldn't own a car or allow anything in your life to transported via vehicles at all compliant or not as all cars pollute . and using public transport isnt any better either as youll still adding to the so called air /climate crises so i hope you ulez supporters are good at walking, cycling and growing your own food if your to support such a policy
@dondoodat ah your reply is so predictable ... So are you saying only none ulez exempt cars emmit pollution . Also you when a car has tons of armour the emmisions goes up....also he needs 3 range rovers for his journey .....that's 3 X range V8 5.0 for one man Vs 1 2012 diesel...,he emmits most pollution doesn't pay yet the 2012 car does due to not being exempt
@dondoodat what have I said that's dishonest, go do some research
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Alickalotapus
The whole thing is a massive scam
The percentage is 3% 😂 all bs
Zero
I’ve never heard such nonsense in my life
labour for rich...get rid of the poor mr khan thanks.
The need for clean air would make ULEZ a no-brainer, Boris said so himself. It’s just so difficult to implement something that would improve people’s health if wealth is the biggest drawback. Most people are currently struggling to put food on their tables and fuel in their existing vehicles, and can’t afford the ULEZ compatible vehicles that would prevent the need for paying a fee for travelling into a ULEZ. This is a Tory policy, implemented in the middle of the worst living experience in the history of ANY Tory Government
Isn’t it being implemented by Khan?
@@ItsJustRyan89 but, it was Boris’s policy. He came up with it while Mayor of London, and obviously it was left on the statute book.
@@Jozman2005 khan doesn’t need to execute it, surely?
Nobody needs to drive in London
@@hmq9052 says who?
A lot of the people complaining dont live in this area. They drive through it from the commuter towns and dont need to live with the consequences
Ive me er heard of anyone dying from air polution in my country . 🇺🇸
The figures were probably completely swamped by the number of people dying from gunshot wounds.
New York city used to be infamous for its air pollution though, like London, it has cleaned up its act in recent years.
Probably depends what political party the medical examiner belongs to. If its in the UK and they are a green party acolyte then everybody dies of one (or more) of the following air pollution, petrochemicals, plastics or heavily processed foods and meats.
At some point Londoner's are going to WAKE UP to the privacy concerns of the state Tracking your every car journey 🤔😳🥸
ULIES AND TOXIC LIE AIRS
Only expands sad khan wallets.
The reason that the gains are modest is because the scheme is very light touch. Ulez should be on all cars with exhaust pipes.
We need massive investment in affordable electric cars NOW! The government could’ve spent all the money they spaffed on Dido’s failed track and trace and given grants to people who can’t afford one outright.
Yay - the problem here is "affordability" - too many rules, labour rights, freedom, health/safety and minimum wage levels to invest in our own manufacturing. Instead, tech manufacturing has to be places like China willing to turn a blind eye to all those issues and infractions! So lets toss all that money over to China where they are still building two coal fired power stations to keep up demand for EV batteries and components. Seems China's air quality suffers so the rest of the world can breathe.
Long live ULEZ👏🤞✌️
Destroy the cameras.
Search for “Don Rickles roasts Frank Sinatra”.
Sinatra blows cigar smoke at Rickles, and he coughs and says “what is this, London?”
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