Hong Kong families find fresh start in London
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Former Hongkongers like Simon Ho are finding a growing community in the South London neighbourhoods of Sutton, New Malden and Kingston - all locations favoured by recent arrivals to the UK as part of the British National (Overseas) scheme. The Post’s Laura Westbrook went to meet them, and found that like many young families, they said they were worried about how changes in Hong Kong could affect their children’s future - and looked to find communities with good schools in the United Kingdom.
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As a British person, we love HK people. Hardworking , smart and law abiding by vast majority.
Can cry
Vast contrast from Mainlanders
@@Alan-gg7cz mainlanders are very welcome too. New generation is far more educated.
Everyone wellcome. Please pay ur taxes on time
The protesters promote more terrorism than freedom. Leave Hong Kong, please, and do not come back.
Funny thing is Hong Kong under British rule of over 100 years did not have democracy. So alot of Hongkongers doesn't mind British didn't give them democracy but they mind China did not give them democracy. Anyone have gone to Hong Kong will experience freedom as they have experienced in their own country. And Hong Kong is still a destinations where alot of people aspire to go live and work.
HONG Kong was denied democracy during the colonial rule because of the severe opposition from the Chinese government. Beijing threatened to invade HONG Kong if democracy was given.
It's called discrimination. What else?
Hi Candy
Internalized racism.
False equivalence.
They were promised a democratic system post hand over.
CCP lied.
It's so heartbreaking. I'm a British person living in Hong Kong for decades, and absolutely love HK & the people here, there's been so much change so quickly that I completely understand why so many people started fleeing Inc many of my local friends esp for the sake of their children. Many of my UK friends also left & returned to the UK. It's been a quite the mental & emotional battle to decide to stay or go back to the UK even for me as a British person as it feels quite an alien lifestyle for me in the UK now tbh. I'm so impressed by how resilient & brave HKers are! It's never easy leaving a home & life u love to go out into the unknown. I really hope they are treated with the respect & dignity they deserve, hard working, honest people that value strong community & education.
Thank you so much for understanding us
Know this; i***6253; the New-Comers; cannot Vote (Not even By-Elections); OR Buy Property/Real Estate for at least 3 to 5 year. Their Passports R Not full British Passports. But; BNO Passports. They R issued with quite Poor Housing in Deprived Areas. (I know I was issued with a Section 21 in the last 05 years!...Myself!)
Many R sent to Obscure Towns and Post Industrial Cities.....And Not in Metropolis like London.
I have seen a lot of them who has settled in the last few years in the County I live in and many of the Middle Ages to Retirement age folk R resigned to a life on Benefits.
Even for the Ex-Service Personnel who had served the British for Decades donot get any Special Treatment.
Only time will tell; how the Younger Generation will fare in the Coming Months and Years in the 03rd Decade of the 21St Century.....
A fact U might want to bear in Mind.....
There is only ONE Single MP of East Asian (H.K.). Origin, In the U.K. His name is: Alan Mak and he is the Conservative MP for Havant.
HongKongers might be resilient; but we R only flesh n' Blood and NOT unbreakable!
It’s because of china’s policy
THEY WILL LEARN SOON THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE HOME!
@@johnwong8336 Well everyone who has moved to a new country feels like that, unfortunately HK is in decline, politically & financially and when people make life changing moves like this they understand they need to sacrifice their worries and challenges to make sure their kids have a better future. Is the UK a perfect place - nope, but there is opportunity & stability.
Change is hard, and it's even harder starting over in a foreign land. There will be many obstacles, hardships, and injustices. But know this, generations before have been through this and achieved great success. So let go of the past, bitterness, and any feeling of self pity. Look to the future, be grateful for everything, and work hard. For one day, the fruits of your labor will bare the fruits of your success.
They are so much luckier than my grandparents generation. With all smart phones and youtube. Much easier
The comments of hardship and suffering makes it feel like some 3rd world refugee crisis - it's really not as bad as you make it out to be. They already have a strong community support structure in the Church, businesses are bending over writing things in Chinese for them, plenty of chinese supermarkets in London, and if they have money and can afford to move abroad, then the transition to life in UK will be smooth.
@@leahlee8291 Home? They are stray dog ? Everyone has the choice to choose where is their home is. Those decided to stay back in HK is their decision( be it active or passive) .... Same to those who choose to leave HK.
Yes, it's easier nowadays, but there will be still difficult social adjustments. In London it's slightly better because of the diverse community. As a British Asian from a low-income family growing up in a predominantly white community without even many other ethnic minority groups there was a lot to independently navigate. Rich or not, you'll face the same social struggles.
Australia better
As a UK citizen its lovely and heart warming to see HK citizens living in the UK. They are always welcome to live, work and become citizens in the UK and become a British member as anyone else is. Welcome to those who wish to come.
You are off your heed dude really my country is full Tories and labour brutal wrecked country shocking Tories
I disagree. People have a moral responsibiity to fight for the future of their own homeland.
@@LS-xs7sg People as have the right to live and be happy without the fear of being locked up, separated from their family, live in poverty or have physical harm. It is easy to say fight but the consequences are a heavy reality
I disagree, deep down inside they know they will never truly fit in, and will always be viewed as 2nd class citizens.
@@shekrahman2118 rights aren’t some abstract thing that exist independently from society. The western world is destroying itself because it gives rights to foreigners which ultimately leads to the deconstruction of the integrity of our people. People should fight for the future of their own people in their own lands. It is also simply cheaper usually to support genuine refugees to live in their own region.
As a UK born Hong Konger I sympathise with the family, things will get better. Thank you for showcasing the beautiful side of emigration. Welcome to the UK my brothers and sisters ❤️
till he gets his teeth caved in for his iphone
Some of them moved to Canada.
@@FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY the rich ones go canada the poor ones go uk now
@@sko1beer correct
I hope we can see the news about him in maybe 5 or 10 years later and see what kind of future he will have there
They will take away jobs from the whites and the whites will be thankful 🤣🤣🤣...yea right 🤣🤣
Lol
I think he’s happy to be in his master’s country 😉
No need to predict. Look at what the British did to them before 1997. They don't even have the right to vote as a government official. The capital of Hong Kong is the local emperor.
Hahaha 😂😂😂
UK isn't exactly the future either... 🙄
you're absolutely CORRECT .....
My heart goes out to these families. It takes immense courage to uproot everything and everyone and start over in a totally new country. Different language, customs, food, etc. I pray they will be welcomed, flourish in their own right, and give back to their host country.
Lol, many of them came back though after finding out life in the UK isn't all it's cracked up to be. Some in less than a year.
UK always welcomes HK people's hard earned money.
@@aero.l It would be a very expensive lesson for these families, to move to UK and then realise that life in HK is really not as bad as western media has painted. These families will also wake up to the reality that UK also has national laws, and UK police will also use force on its citizens in order to maintain order and national security, and freedom is all relative.
@@ixanaths It is going to be a choice between living under a Communist System of Government or a Western Democracy System of Government. No ? HK will become Communist, when the one country two systems end for HK, it's a No Brainer, it's a matter of time.
@@alexlong3714 but those living under a communist don’t eat dog food and their children undernourished like those living the so called democracy country. What a joke...
Why didn't you ask them about BoJo who clearly ignored the COVID rule, then pretended to be innocent? Why didn't you ask them about Truss and Sunak, both were not directly elected by the voters to be the PM?
These people moved to the UK because they love to be ruled by their majesty queen and king.
Nope, please get off your high horse, Theese people just want to move either for freedom with persecution to badmouth the Chinese or HK government. Since the National security act was signed.
They Loved the British for sure
King Charles is better than Emperor Xi! 🙂
I visited Hong Kong for 7 days this year and already miss it. All the people I met there were wonderful. I can't imagine how hard it is for these families to leave it after having lived there for decades. Also shows that where I live we shouldn't just keep our freedom for granted.
Every country has national security law, every country has patriotism in their educational system. Just because Hong kong adopted national security law, doesn't mean your children don't have a future. You are way too pessimistic..
I can't see a future in the UK...
its going to be a very black future in the uk with lots of cultural enrichment and diversity
@@winterrising8738 nope. it is cultural genocide and chaotic divergence.
@@linphilip6389 I personally think they will be fine. We have seen this earlier before, such as the Vietnamese boat people crisis. Around 1.5 million Vietnamese fled to the West. Nearly all of them are still in their respective countries (US, Canada, Australia etc.) They faced discrimination and racism against against Asians, just like the Hong Kongers will, however they came out stronger and now have a thriving community of over 5.5 million Vietnamese in the U.S. It will be difficult, but its not impossible for the Hong Kongers. They can learn from Vietnamese.
You can't? It is dark and bleak and will be owing lots of money to the US.
Those BNO holders thought the grass would be greener, but it's actually BBC grey filter green, without using a filter.
90 percent of hongkonger moving to UK are not really happy
Of Cos! they're D0g$ considered- to the British people!!!
HK ppl LIKED being Tortured & Treated L0w like 2nd- class citizens......O in- fact animal$ :)
am NOT❌ Surprised!!
I mean the uk economy isn’t doing that well. Slowest growth out of all the main countries since Brexit
Could you provide me the source of your finding?
Just don’t come back please thanks. 🙏
...........身为中国人， 我都.........拜........香港人........滚......远点.........永远不要滚回来.!!!
@@crimsonsbarvwin3393 😅🤣😂👍👍🤲💘
When my parents from HK came to Western Europe half a century ago, the HK emigrants then were mostly poor and non-educated. Most couples did not have children at arrival and just sought a better living here, which was then a logic choice. Nowadays many HK parents think they could give their young children a better future in Western Europe, but have no idea what it means for their children to grow up here where the Asian children look and behave different than their Western peers, and will always be treated as different.
On one comment in another video about this topic, in which a HK man imposed on his daughter his thought that UK is better, and another in which a HK woman talks to a UK woman as if HK women always shout at their children, whereas UK women won’t. A kind of thought, in which the West is pictured as better or even superior.
From the perspective from a middle aged Asian man who was born and has lived all his life in a Western country with the highest university degree, and who has been to HK a couple of times, life in the West will be tough for newcomers from HK:
By giving up their well paid jobs, the highly educated Hong Kongers come to the West to fulfill low paid jobs, and turn from the upper class in HK to the lower class in the West. They will encounter racism and are often defenseless. Their status is even lower than the uneducated Islamic people who emigrated to the West massively. The weather here is not suited for Asians. If you cannot speak the local language fluently, you will always be an outsider, and will be looked down. Even when you speak the local language 100% fluently and could defend yourself verbally against all kinds of people, you are still an outsider in the West. Most Asian boys will remain single, as they are pictured here as non-masculine, and lots of Asian girls, pictured as obedient, will marry the white men, because of their highest social status.
As for the children, growing up in an environment, in which they do not feel “welcome”, “safe” and/or “accepted” they will experience lifelong consequences. These HK parents think they know better for their children, because they reason from a rational point of view. But children don’t.
The social environment in the West has changed dramatically due to massive influx from Muslim and other people: Social tensions have increased in the last decade, and social issues here are visible, in which Asians are collateral damage. Anti-Asian sentiments are present and growing. Asians in the West are not second rank, but (will) become third rank like in the US and Canada, where I have been to many times for longer periods. Third rank means also discriminated by second rank citizens like Muslims and the dark people. For HK children to raise up in the West is nowadays much harder than in my youth three/four decades ago.
As a matter of fact, I do not see any future for HK families to come to the West. They will burn their savings here. They will lose their high status and their well paid jobs back home. Their children will experience things unknown to them in HK. There is no bright future for newcomers in the West as my parents did see when they choose to live here 50+ years ago. Neither for the locals nor for the newcomers from HK, nowadays.
For HK families still in HK and considering emigration to the West, it would in my viewpoint a big mistake. Social and political changes are everywhere, also in the West. Instead of getting emotional on these topics, focusing on saving money for their children is more practical, which is impossible in the West with the low paid jobs and income tax as high as 35%-49%.
Indeed, my worry is that as neo-liberal policies are failing spectacularly in the West, they will turn increasingly towards nationalism, which if not managed properly, will be very dangerous for immigrants and "non-original" looking people (whom were typically made scapegoats in past artrocity). In China, HKers are ethnically Chinese i.e. the "original" and major population of this area. In the West, it is a big NO, so HKers in the West are advised to monitor their social environment closely and return should it become dangerous. HOWEVER, that does depend on what you most value in life, I guess. Some prefer to "burn brightly, then die".
To be fair, HK is indeed too crowded with very high cost of living. If you could find happiness in other countries, then go.
Just don't use politics as an excuse.
True. This is the most realistic advice we can give to our surroundings without the false news on the internet.
Politics do play a role though. Without it, many Western nations wouldn't have made nationalization of HK residents so easy.
Don't bag on those people lol. They need to prove their loyalty to their new masters.
@@leeo268 Hong Kong as an established city existed before the CCP.
CCP are the new masters.
The reason uk welcomes Hk is because they come with money. Lots of it. Why not offer the same welcome to Syrians, Yemenis, etc?
I hope they don't get attacked by racists.
it will happen ..to the kids at school
Come now. We all know it's going to happen.
@@gargantuanlilipout427 depends ..in suburbs unlikely but in the streets of london most definitely gonna get verbally racist slurs at least
🥹I’m so glad there is a future for these children. My parents left Hong Kong 1979 and always wanted to return. In their old age they still wonder if they would go back. But that is the sacrifice they made for us. I am always grateful for my education in the US. Such a heartbreaking yet hopeful story. I’m glad there is a path for them open . Thank you.
USA has mass shooting. Hong Kong has no gun violence. Very safe
Tf? Get them a one-week trip back.
It’s ok for a short vacation but not for retirement. Medical standards are going down fast besides many things
In 1979 Hong Kong had an appointed colonial governor with little representation from the native population. It was not a democracy. No issue with seeking freedom but this idea that Hong Kong was democratic under the British then lost democracy is just historical ignorance and the 50 year agreement the British signed was with the same assumptions of eternity of its principles than the original treaties that gave Britain the isles.
There was a time in Hong Kong where ‘no dogs and no Chinese’ were on the front of stores too. Anyway hope the weird colonial fantasy pleases you all
What is with you mainlanders always wanting to copy the British and US? Do you mainlanders not have an original thought? You talk about being patriotic. Yet you are obsessed with Britain anx America with your top gun and 300 rip off. As a country, you are devoid of culture and identity, just CCP propaganda. You aren't loyal to your country. You are just loyal to the CCP. You are a traitor to China.
And this isn't sports. People don't have to love their country unconditionally especially when the government doesn't represent the people.
I love this story! May the brits welcome you with open arms and minds! 🇭🇰
Better these than the ilegals that dont work and are criminals.
@@ianbrighouse3056 You mean, "the people who immigrate illegally and thus aren't given a work permit so they are more likely to turn to a life of crime in order to make a living"? Cause that would be better, but it will still be inaccurate given I immigrated legally to Spain seven years ago and have never been given a work permit either. But of course most citizens in developed countries prefer to think their governments go out of the way to help foreigners, whatever.
@FGoogle and youtube I got yelled at the airport by a crazy wino upon arrival to Barajas-Madrid; it didn't stop me and seven years later I'm settled in Spain more happy than not. Three years to go for permanent residence, be strong! 🦁
@@IRosameliabe careful what you say. Or they will stab you.
The UK is both highly diverse and very open-minded -- especially when compared to more closed attitudes across Continental Europe. Of course there's a lot of propaganda about Hong Kong newcomers being unwelcome, much of it propagated by CCP websites and bots on RUclips. But the truth is that they've largely been very welcome in local British communities and have integrated smoothly into what is already one of the most diverse societies anywhere. Here in London, the growing Hong Kong communities in Kingston-on-Thames, Canary Wharf, Whitechapel, and Woolwich (to name a few) are absolutely thriving. There's loads of community events as well as cultural-exchange meetings with other local groups.
>>The only real issue in recent months has been occasional verbal clashes with mainland Chinese students etc. (see the recent incident where CCP slogans were painted on a wall in Shoreditch), as mainlanders already exist in the UK in huge numbers (estimated at over half a million, possibly up to 650,000). That said, such incidents have been few in number.
DON'T FORGET THAT THERE WILL FAILURES ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO CANNOT FIND THE RIGHT JOBS IN THE UK. IN FACT, THERE WAS A YOUNG HONGKONGER WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T FIND A JOB THAT COULD SUSTAIN HER NEEDS A FEW DAYS AGO. THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAY GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.
The grass isn't greener, but at least there is grass. HK has become a wasteland...
They hide their suffering and struggle now, we might not know. Outside is beautiful. No place is better than home.
Could not see a future in his country. But, could see it in another that is facing economic headwinds.
They can think what they like, harsh reality is, they are "CHINESE" to the average person on the streets of UK. I have lived here for decades and still face unconscious bias, better terms for racism.
That happens to the thoroughly brainwashed. They're in for a rude awakening.
But CCP forcing *patriotism and the evils of democracy* and the flag raising isn't brainwashing. 😂 You mainlanders are amusing.
Do HongKongers know everything the UK did to China and Hong Kong? As a brazilian i would never go to Portugal (the colonizer's of my country), after everything they did to my people.
They've been colonized successfully. They no longer identify as Chinese and rather wish they are white themselves.
These people love the colonise more than their own countrymen and comrades. Probably because their parents collaborated with the colonisers and got rich back then. They hate equality and justice and love wealth and imperialism
Hong Kong wouldn't have existed without Britain.
@@drunkenmonkey1887 you should complete the phrase: "Hong Kong wouldnt exist without britain's... smugling drugs illegally into Chinese territory" 🤭🤭
@@taikonautaparawara Chinese people moved from the mainland to escape from the Civil Wars taking place on the mainland.
Hong Kong was a safe haven, protected by the establishment of the UK colony and it is that law and protection that allowed the former fishing island develop into a major trading port.
Post World War 2 when Mao was going crazy with his policies that lead to widespread famine and subsequent deaths of millions, people once again migrated to Hong Kong for safety and security.
I thought the economy was crashing in the UK? This better not turn into a "they took our jobs!" story.
At least there is potential upside in the travel and airline industry as when all the political upheaval that's going on in China settles down, they would eventually intend to fly back to HK to visit family and friends.
That really depends on what narrative the west wants to spin.
What do you think Brexit was all about? Immigrants and they are invading Britain.
@@hangtuah888 It's also because they're subsidizing more into EU than they're getting out of being in the EU.
@@midnightsun1728 they better stayed there, HK is better without them
SCMP should move to UK and join BBC
they are BBc lapdogs already, surprised the national law has not banned this dangerous fake news already
They still can't decide. 😆😆😆
Agree
😂 Agreed. SCMP is slightly better though since it seldomly spread fake news......
A book that everyone from Hong Kong should read before moving to the UK is ‘Watching the British’ by Kate Fox! You’ll be able to adopt much easier if you do so!
Their L00KS actually tells A L0T Abt THEM .!!!
AMennnnnn🥰😍😘😘😘👍🤝🙏
Hong Kong people are hard working, educated and skilled. Any country would be lucky to receive them. This is also why the numbers that have moved to the UK so far are lower than expected because Hong Kong people who want to move overseas do have options to move to other countries too. The UK is not their only option. The dynamism and pace of life in Hong Kong is very different to the UK (and many other countries) and will take some adjusting to. I wish these Hong Kongers and their kids all the very best wherever they choose to settle. And I hope one day they can return to a better Hong Kong.
Everyone has their own choice. You choose it, you bear it.
it's not a choice,.its about their.culture DNA
CNA (Channel New Asia) has a great two-part documentary about this available here on RUclips. It is never easy to move to a different country. Lots of hardship.
funny how so many cna troIIs spill over to scmp 😄
@@pepelepew1227 What a bizarre remark.
@@pepelepew1227 says the scmp troll 😄
@@pjacobsen1000 not at all. it's entertaining to see a bunch of Iosers judging another country without even knowing the language 😅 take the "secret" overseas police case, their presence and purpose are long a public knowledge complete with location phone and email ..... if you can read mandarin. those stations dont even bother obfuscating the names 😅😅 it's like an arab jail with a huge sign saying "cia-operated prison".
@@pepelepew1227 OK, your mind seems to be running wild. It's just a documentary about people immigrating to another country and the difficulties they face. There's nothing else to it.
Oh boy are they in it for a rude awakening.
Shhh…
Lol yeah they'll be treated like dogs and used as a punching bag, these guys have never experienced racism. I can't wait to see what happens lol
exactly ......
That's funny because here in d UK, the teaching of history in schools is also not that fair and objective.
most prefer singapore....UK is an odd choice.
@@astralpowerr Singapore?! U wut mate?! I thot these ppl wanted more “freedom”??! These hongkis r a v v confused bunch.
Because those BNOers never lived in UK (I have some friends who have never been to UK in their life before), and they didn't know the true face of UK.
History was written by the winner
Imagine hating your own country and not being proud of your identity smh
It's okay to be unhappy with your country and move to another one. But it's not morally sound to make up unsubstantiated claims about your country as an excuse to leave. Unless they committed crimes, these people are in no actual danger or hardship. They would be immigrating by preference and not by necessity.
Well, the poetic thing is whatever country they move to, outside of East-Asia will always remind them who they are , no matter who they marry or what accent they adopt.
I am so glad they are happy overseas due to whatever reason they chose to be as their valid reason to leave. To each its own. Just happy to see that everyone is happy now. Please stay there and be happy. I personally believe its a win win situation for all.
and please never come back!
The children are going to grow up liberalized and dissolutioned
@@user-vv7ir1pl4j and racially discriminated!
@@lawlaw585 look up uk crime rate and talk again
I wished we could say the same about mainland Chinese being stuck in lockdown. Unfortunately their leaders let them out again :/
Sweeping the streets or doing deliveries in UK? That’s future? 😂
How certain are you?
Is there a difference between working in a HK street and a British one?
When russian attack uk then this hong konger will go back
@i said maaayyybeee freedom of expression with full of lies and manipulation? Thats what you need freedom of expression for? to sin? to promote hatred against countries you dont like (China)? or even to begin wars like the war of Iraq (Nayirah's testimony)?
at least them and their child won't get brain wash by ccp
Normally,the first step for everthing is not easy. I appreciate all the HongKong people who full of courage to do everything for their Future, the next generation. 加油！香港人！
Hope Hong Kong bans any returnee with the BNO passport. In fact, Hong Kong should ban those from even returning to visit.
If Hong Kong people who hold BNO passport and cancel they citizenship, let stay stay in oversea forever🤔👍🍺
The HK government should cancel their citizenship, let them enjoy their newfound freedom and democracy.
Then the Hong Kong government will have to give them back their pension money, which the government is reluctant to do so.
I would like to see a report on the many HKers who suffered from migrating to UK.
They probably won't want to admit it. Or be featured in a story where they are not making a success of their choice to migrate. It usually is seen as shame.
@@sword7872 You have a point. Kinda unfortunate.
That won’t be reported as it is politically incorrect to do so😂
@@hypixelvideos There is a news about HK migrants are having trouble in finding a new home in UK but I can't send the link because RUclips keeps removing it
@@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 Got the direct name of the video?
People jumping on to a sinking ship.
you're absolutely CORRECT .....
UK is definitely a sinking ship with high CRIMES RATE 😢
I'm native English and I am looking after small twins from Hong Kong 🇭🇰 while there parents look for a school in London they are very sweet intelligent kids I wish them the best
This is a really nice piece of propaganda from SC.
Look up " UK is copying Hong Kong's National Security Law! " on yT.
insightful......
sincerely happy for them. i hope more hong kongers who dislike China move to London instead of staying in Hong Kong, China.
勉强是没有幸福的。 i'm sure they will find freedom and democracy in their beloved England 😄
it sure don’t sound like you’re “sincerely happy for them” 😭
I really enjoyed watching this video, I hope each family have settled and doing well, I hope Jones and his beautiful family are feeling very settled
Is HK separatist lived in UK dare criticize Freedom & Democracy to British Monarchy like they did to China?
people who move for their kids will place much burden on the little ones unfortunately. Can u imagine when the kids are older, parents having gone thru much and in the midst of a quarrel, they say I moved here for you?
Change is hard I get it but it gives great life experiences I lived in france for 1 year back in 2008-09 Germany for 2 years in 2010-2012 and Spain for 2 years in 2012-14 all for work I'm now back home in my homeland Wales 🏴🇬🇧 sadly since Brexit I can no longer live freely in another European country , hope these people from Hong kong have settled in now it's tough being away from home
Well, sounds like these two men are from working class backgrounds with no overseas university education.
These Asian people “really” miss the British colonial period in Hong Kong, I guess.
Or just miss being free from the increasingly less free HK since the National security act?
@@dreamsmpclipscentral8589 And they'll realise the UK/US also have National Security Laws, pull a stunt like they did in HK, and they won't be treated with kid gloves.
@@dreamsmpclipscentral8589
Even with the security act
Hong Kong People still enjoy far more freedom under China than Under the British
These Asian people finally migrated back to their homeland UK
@@dreamsmpclipscentral8589 what they did in HK will get them shot on the street by the police instantly, so tell me, which one has a more strict law?
Expected there to be some of the community links in the Description to help any viewers.
That’s nice the British haven’t started to firebomb and terrorise this community yet. But the language of this story is propaganda. What exactly is “controversial” about the security law? I ask the lawyers in this group to compare it with equivalent laws in the AUKUS nations. I’m hearing in many articles, the AUKUS countries have harsher conditions. If the British are genuine, they should afford hong kongers the same benefits they give to Africans and middle eastern refugees.
You can tell he regrets leaving HK. And the saddest part is, for the avg citizen living in HK now, life really hasn't even changed much at all. There was really no point to leave HK.
This is such a lie. When you're in HK you're at the eye of a hurricane, and that gives you a false sense of security as if everything is fine. Only when you get out of there and see it from afar do you start to realize just how quickly HK is sinking.
He thought he could just come over and be treated like a white guy, and when he realized he's still treated as an As'an, he realized it's better to be around your own.
What do you think of nearly whole UK workers including teachers on Strike?
They are exercising their freedom to stop work. That is your freedom at work.
@@hangtuah888 ，Freedom?
@@Boop-GIf they feel like their not getting their fair pay or fair conditions, they have the option to just not go in.
Nice to see Cantonese culture alive in London again, remember the 1980s there were lots of people from Hong Kong. Cantonese people in East London (Lime House) goes back to the early1800's.
Xi can't remove culture, no matter how hard he tries. It will always survive.
London has its own problems. We are already over-crowded with massive shortage of affordable housing, lack of school spaces and huge medical waiting lists. People are living in sheds and tents hidden away from the media who like to pretend that London is fine. Flats and houses meant for one family house multiple families or up to 20 people. The infrastructure is breaking down due to too many people. This isn't the 1980s anymore.
@@snowysnowyriver there was meant to be a New China Town at Newham Docks, don't know what's happened to that. I wonder if we can get the Taiwanese Govt to build there.
Most of those who came in the 50s and 60s were villagers from New Territories and a large proportion of those spoke Hakka.
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You omitted to mention 洪秀全 was a Hakka, as were many of his followers.
After the Tai Ping rebellion was crushed by the Qing government, they were persecuted and so many fled abroad hence the diaspora overseas.
Up until the 90s, Hakka and Cantonese would be commonly heard spoken in Chinatown.
Nowadays would be Mandarin and Cantonese, Hakka very rarely heard or spoken (only by the older generation).Most 2nd generation Hakkas speak Cantonese and can't speak their mother tongue. They consider it backwards and unsophisticated speaking Hakka (since it was spoken in the countryside in HK).
Taiwan's 蔡英文 is also Hakka.
The dream is just a dream.....There is no better place than Asia....
To be honest it's yes...
Agreed.
That's why there were millions of Asians in America, Europe, Africa or all over the world. There were millions of Chinese all over the world. I love China town though.
No matter you stay in or move out a place, let not say HK, you gonna adapt the changes, it's either gradual or sharp. Some might think HK changes sharply in recent years, but relocating oneself in unfamiliar environment could also be a sharp change to any person. Similar phenomenon happened during the HK 1997 British handover as well, but that wasn't ended up as horrifying as predicted actually.
Hong Kong people enjoy Far more freedom under China than under the British
Now you can regret your decisions to leave HK.
97 all over again but these guys are more radical than before, funny how they say don't see a future for their kids in HK but the amount of next gens from Canada and US moving back to HK to learn more about their culture and work in HK is higher than ever.
They all use the same excuse and say the same to move to another place. They all sneak back to China years later.
Western countries are slowly becoming third world country's.
That's a complete lie. Yes some moved back after 97, but they are returning to Canada and the United States in droves. HK population is declining and the only reason the decline isn't worst is cause Mainlanders are moving in. Ironically, many of those Mainlanders who moved to HK, with the veil of Chinese propaganda and the great firewall removed, have realized what Freedom is and have moved to the West along with native Hong Kongers. I have a new neighbor whose originally from Mainland China but moved to Hong Kong 10 years ago. He too is now among the wave of Hong Kongers who came to Canada. So it seems even non-native HKers from Mainland China feel the crushing weight of a Chinese dictatorship.
@@marvinsulzer8258 - Some people move to another place becasue they look for better opportunities, not becasue they hate their country. They always praise for their country.
There are also many others who moved to HK when those HKers left. Nobody is really indispensible. You leave and others will fill the void. Live where you are happy with and what you can tolerate ultimately. UK isn't utopia nor are its streets paved with gold either. They are now going through the toughest economic downturn and stagflation in decades, alot of which was self induced. Look, half a million essential workers are already striking in late January 2023.
Even uk people are struggling these days.
Well the UK has a lower GDP per capita than Hong Kong so that would make sense. Hong Kong is richer than the UK.
I love Hongkong, better life here .
Yea I'd rather complain about inflation than some imagery paranoia
so much better now that the rioters have all gone to UK and other countries, there is finally stability and order in HK, people can get on with their lives in HK without fearing that the "pro democracy (how ironic)" rioters set the city on fire and throw molotov cocktail at the police day in day out.
@@ixanaths yea at least I feel safe when I express my dismay with them without the fear of getting beaten up like the 'we are all Chinese' officer worker
@@ixanaths It's always sad to see the so called "Democracy Movement" that had caused so much damage and suffering to ordinary people. Just think of the Ukraine crisis !!
The War in Donbas was an armed conflict in the Donbas region of Ukraine, part of the broader Russo-Ukrainian War. In March 2014, immediately following the Euromaidan protest movement and subsequent Revolution of Dignity, protests by pro-Russian, anti-government separatist groups arose in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts of Ukraine, collectively called the Donbas.
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@@user-hc3kk7qv7o dont bring up that video , the haters are not gonna like it .
To the man in the video worrying about fitting in - I think having fish and chips with a pint in a Wetherspoons is one of the most British things I've ever seen!
Funny that he mentioned changing its history and quality of education
London is very expensive now. If you can move a whole family overseas into a suburban area then you aren't a regular family from HK
Living among community of HK will help a bit and to go through though times in foreign country.
Living among community is the last thing to do.
f you think yourself as being british citizen, you must mix up with the locals. Otherwise, this will cause racial tensions and you will not find peace.
Is it not for peace of mind that you decide to leave all that's got to do with Chinese behind ?
If Chinese is so bad, why do you want to recreate Chinese lifestyle in the UK?
This is perfect example of a guy running from the problem instead of trying to solve it and now which history they will learning.. british history.
What are you talking about? They have been trying for YEARS. What do you think the protests since 2014 have been for? But nothing they could do worked. The CCP has tightened its regulations on everything in HK. All the spots on the legislative council are now either Beijing-controlled or Beijing-approved. In 2019 pro-democratic politicians fought so hard to win spots in the local elections, for the first time ever nearly 3 million people turned up to vote and gave the pro-democracy parties landslide victories. One step forward for democracy? No. They were disqualified, accused of fraud, forced to resign, removed with thinly veiled excuses. They have tried everything. There's nothing left. And now that any person who is known to have a pro-democratic leaning can be taken away to prison without a word the only thing that can be done is to flee for the sake of themselves and their families. If you think you could try harder then go there and make a change. Change the cold inhuman heart of the CCP and the hundred million cogs in its machine. Go on. We will be so happy to have you there.
"A guy" in Hong Kong tries to solve it and ends up in jail.
This genius guy tried to solve it by committing a crime. It is like solving your financial problem by robbing a bank. Of course, you will be in jail.
I used to work in financial industry in HK and came to scotland in September last year. I’m working in oil business right now which is completely different from what I was doing. Just so grateful to be here in the UK.
yes dont come back to HK, Hk dont miss u garbage
@@amiigose Well said, these people just dont come back after leaving.
oil business? gas filling boy?
@@kkchow523 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for asking. Document Archive for oil company 😄
Hong Kong is not that bad…This video is just showing the bad side of hk.Hk is a very safe city and such incidents happen rarely
mY BAD I WROTE COUNTRY (don’t come at me it’s a fact)
Oh no, did you just use the c word for HK?
Rip
thanks you for recognizing Hong Kong as a country. revolution our time, may Hong Kong being free from the invader ccp
Things changed drastically with the introduction of the NSL. This can not be understated.
@@Fallen608 There were protests last month against covid lockdowns in China.
@@Fallen608 Things only changed at a very hypothetical level. It bans the sort of activities that would be ill-advised in any country. I'd shudder to think about trying the same sorts of stunts in the US where I live. For example, the US cracked down on the 2021 Jan 6 Capitol insurrection way harder than Hong Kong ever did on its own Legislature invasion in June 2019.
Grass is always greener on the other side for these Hong Kong people who migrated to the UK under the BNO scheme. I’m sure many of them will sneakily come back to HK after the reality hit them overseas.
Every calculated decision comes with a risk. The most important thing not to do is to dead-end your own future by being stubborn and refusing to face the reality of what are really important to you and your family.
China and HK should bar these people to ever moving back to HK again just to make money. As it's not fair to HK people who stay.
Yeah do it please
at this time, it's definitely BAD move to UK .....
(it WAS best if it's 30 years ago)
From observations, many of these new migrants to UK have legal issues with HKG/China😅
In fact UK is sinking ship with rapid deteriorating economy, homelessness, CRiMES, illicit drugs, public health care.... etc
Look at UK public transportation stations & SAFETY .....
many teenagers carrying knife not just adults.
Crimes rate is soaring in UK .....
China nowadays is BEST choice to reside & earn livings, inexpensive costs of living with QUALiTY lifestyles, and one of the SAFEST place ......
Wishing this family the best (without regret in near future)😂
2024Jan28th, Sun
I wish these new Hong Konger immigrants all the luck. My parents moved from Hong Kong to the US in 1965 and my family has been very successful moving up - education was emphasized. I really admire people who make the sacrifices for their children. I still have family in Hong Kong, so I really hope Hong Kong can weather this storm.
When the people who disliked China is gone
Hong Kong will become the most dynamic City in Asia again
Hong Kong has weathered far worse, including war and military occupation. It will bounce back because it always has--naysayers are always going to say nay.
@@wingkeungkong415 * : City dynamic Or poor can't satisfy your Appetite . It's money makes the mare go . Mean if you are very rich than every place of World you live as King.
@@makuohua3071 your city must friendly to other people
Otherwise people would not come to your city to visit
@@wingkeungkong415
People in Hong Kong do not dislike China, but they refuse to be forced into 1984.
I have been many times to Hong Kong and understand why it must be hard to leave such a wonderful place, but Hong Kongers are very welcome here and I hope they will soon adapt to what must seem a very different culture and find happiness
So glad to see some support networks for new HK communities. Super hard working people and massively family orientated.
amazing!
i literally can feel the man's pain at the end of the video. His love for Hong Kong is wholesome. Such a pity. Hope he is doing well now affer a year.
My heart goes out to those Hong Kong families leaving their homeland because they see no future for their children. I hope they find in England the stability they need to live as happy individuals and fulfill their dreams.
Hong Kong is a place I've visited a couple of times and have friends there,I can say these are nice, open heart and mind ,well educated people and they deserve the best. England couldn't get better emigrants than those from HK .
Keep your children close, no sleep over's ext. Firm boundaries for your young. The young in the uk is very disrespectful in some families.
Each country has their own system of education, Hong Kong belongs to China. It's reasonable to have a chinese system education and not british...
Brits are generally genetically predisposed to have intellectual disability 🤣🤣🤣
It's not reasonable when that system is BAD.
This isn't about who has authority over the system, it's about what information is actually being presented itself.
In a one-party state, that information will be nationalistic trash.
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 I don't think the system is bad, there's chinese students in every single top university's around the world.
And which country's education system isn't nationalistic?
I am actually curious which kind of education system from china is wrong, as far as I know, china has peking and tsinghua universities ranked in top 20 the world
Please be kind to Hong Kong immigrants. Immigrating is hard, and a lot of sacrifice. Watching the man cry about missing his life back home, he's doing it all for his kids.
I hope you find Hapiness and peace for your families my friends, Welcome to the UK
Very nice!
How much money did the family pay for their visas? I hope their life work out, because there is no going back.
300 US dollars, which is nothing for Hongkongers
so you rather sacrifice your race for the anglo saxons. you think anti Chinese Itchi Sunat will treat you fairly?
They have two options left - be Chinese or be British.
Nonsense.
Learn the difference between race and nationality.
@@drunkenmonkey1887
Here Chinese = Nationality of 🇨🇳 and British = Nationality of 🇬🇧
@@drunkenmonkey1887 make sense, they cant change skins
@@drunkenmonkey1887 Chinese is not a race
They took a decision and they will have to assume. Certainly the grass is never greener on the other side of the hill.
Life in hk much better than uk. Hk is free. There is nothing in uk
well, at least he already has british teeth. That will help him settle in faster...
😅🤣😂😂😂........👍👍🤝
Thx.
For those Hong Kongers migrated to UK or US, I trust most will regret their moves because most Westerners despise Chinese and can we say Hong Kongers are not Chinese race despite they are born with yellow skins, dark brown hairs and dark brown eyes. Somedays those Hong Kongers would be marginalised by UK communities in future days.
They wil regret 1 day
They probably already have but are ashamed to admit
My heart breaks for these people. I would personally have moved from Hong Kong to mainland China. I don't see a future for anyone except the devil in the UK.
Why move to a place without freedom of speech and freedom of press?
@@MarkYeung1 well, some people love to live a life that does't really need such freedom of speech/press and just have a life that is full of opportunities and development, and that is China. This is why China developing with such great speed and people living there a long period of prosperity. Think about it.
@@MarkYeung1
I'm surprised that you have forgotten about Julian Assange who has never been convicted of a crime yet he's sitting in solitary confinement in a high security prison in London, HMP Belmarsh. I'm in Venezuela and I personally watched BBC report that Venezuelan supermarkets were empty for at least 10 years when the opposite was true. If you really believe that the UK government is a better alternative to the CCP then you are obviously delusional.
@@MrAtheos86 freedom of speech is important. Dr Li Wenliang first noticed the covid19 at wuhan hospital, and he alarmed the nation. The Chinese government condemned and threaten him. If they had given his the freedom of speech, if they didn't try to hide it, many people's lives would have been saved.
@@dilyaTebya What is the covid death toll in the freedom loving USA? Over a million. China handled covid far better than these freedom loving western countries. Don't act like you care about human lives.#
In the run up to 1997, many Hong Kong people left HK for reasons like communism, authoritarian, no democracy, no human rights, no freedom etc. Then years later after 1997, many Hong Kong people returned to HK after obtaining a foreign citizenship. Why returned to HK? What happened to the reasons that made them leave in the first place? Did those reasons, years later after 1997, become invalid? Not really. Now, there are now many Hong Kong people who are in the process of migrating or have already migrated. And they talked about the reasons that support their migration decision. For these people, if they ever return to HK to stay on a permanent basis, whatever reasons that they cited for their migration decision at that time are full of craps!
關正傑冇返來囉。
I would like to see a follow-up of the family in a decade.
Their reasons for leaving Hong Kong will have become historically irrelevant in 10 years. The only question will be the kinds of career opportunities the kids have in their new home.
@@canto_v12 Yeah, if they chose this path to move to UK, they should have considered sacrifing the career opportunities for their children as well !!! If their children want to be manager or senior in a company in future, they have no choice but moving back to Hong Kong again !!!!
I’m really curious about what the local British people think about hkers coming here. -from a hker
At some point, the HK escapers will find themselves the second class in the UK, as I find it myself in the US.
I respect their choices, but I am just curious, since the father's main concern was how History was taught in HK, about what their kids will learn in History classes about China, in Britain...
It's dislike for China and some internalised racism really, maybe someday they'll realise that... (A Hong Konger who has lived in the UK for 6 years)
You don't need to guess. Just open a GCSE or A Level history textbook
So the dude doesn’t want his kids to learn real history! I pity him.
Exactly my thought too haha....worry about learning China history, but happy learning Britain history...sounds like hypocrite to me
Exactly. Colonisation and slavery by the British empire is not taught in British schools. They focus on the Kings and Queens of England and other distractions
The kids are not free of problems either. They will face adaptation issues and may suffered life long psychological problem due to prejudice and being minority in a strange communities. Not all will excel in study.
As for those who were interviewed unless they are in trade; their prospect for career is actually doomed. Unless they are willing to work for minimum pay. UK and most western countries' economic prospect is dwindling by the days. Wrong decision. "What for? " Democracy? Or is your worldview that need to be realistic.You have prejudice against the "Ah Chang" who now is " in charge " that you cannot tolerate? You feel better to join the formal coloniser of Hong Kong ?
In fact, children like London because the public schools in London are playing, but Hong Kong has heavy homework.
what a brave forward thinking family.. all the best in your new home.. greetings from the uk midlands
@미연아름다운인연. Indonesians and Filipinos should stop watching KPOP and KDRAMA bs.
There are so many local talents that can be better choices to watch.
If South Korean RUclipsrs never condemn their racist fellows, then they are the complicits.
Brave but very FOOLISH! Obviously brainwashed.
see the two highly-educated couples being interviewed? these people are going to thrive in the uk and, in true chinese fashion, will be entrepreneurial in a huge way that will drive the poor lazy midlands into *envy* in 1 short generation 😄 if they cant stand a few useIess pollacks & roros, imagine the future xenophobia against prosperous hongkongers. only this time, leavers will find the doors behind them weld shut.
2nd class citizens
No even lower