PSA: Stop Mixing Modular PSU Cables

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @OxKing
    @OxKing 7 лет назад +91

    "Why are those not standardized?" - "Some Men just want to watch the PC burn!"

  • @BSMODS
    @BSMODS 7 лет назад +44

    I support this message. Its even harder to tell when you have the black "ribbon style" cables from many PSU suppliers

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +4

      Hey everyone, it's BS Mods! They're amazing. Go check them out.
      And yes. The black sleeving is nice visually, but it's nice to have the colors for certainty.

    • @ZeroB4NG
      @ZeroB4NG 7 лет назад

      oh ...those are the guys from that one scrapyard wars episode from Linus...
      SUBBED

    • @BSMODS
      @BSMODS 7 лет назад +1

      Thanks :)

  • @hpd_hero
    @hpd_hero 4 года назад +2

    Hi guys, thanks for this video. So I just bought a Seasonic TX1000 to replace with my Corsair HX750. I called a friend who said you can definitely use the same cables, but there was one cable that didnt fit so I ended up thinking something was off. So I ended up changing all the cables just to be sure... However there was one SATA splitter that would be a huge job to get out, so I left it and thought ”well, a SATA is a SATA...”. I turned on my computer and was happy how everything worked first try. Suddenly after about 5-10 seconds I feel a smell of burned plastic, I witness a FIRE in my SATA powered fan hub, and smoke coming through all fan cables. Luckily I was able to pull out my power chord quickly, and my computer still works - however the voltage regulator on most fan cables are toast, and the computer is having issues to boot sometimes... This PSU was my final piece of my dream PC and I looked forward on finally taking it for a spin - and now instead I’m looking at spending hundreds of dollars, including a new Motherboard. I’m so surprised how this was not more clear in the manual or in the community in general - I even googled it before and it seemed fine. GUYS dont mess around with PSU cables - use the one that comes with the PSU, otherwise you’ll end up looking like an idiot like me... :(

  • @DavidFrostbite
    @DavidFrostbite 7 лет назад +159

    I don't understand why this can't be standard. If I have a 6 pin to 6 pin cable for example, the wires should just be straight thru. The F plug on the psu should match the F plug on the device. Otherwise, use a completely nonstandard connector on the psu. I fried an SSD over this crap.

    • @Teknickel_ftw
      @Teknickel_ftw 6 лет назад +8

      I have too Blue smoke is bad, so now i have a 120gb coaster.

    • @WRW87
      @WRW87 6 лет назад +14

      This must be a standard. WTF is this crap.. If they use another 6-pin configuration then it must be NOT compatible with the standardized 6-pin connector.

    • @StaK_1980
      @StaK_1980 6 лет назад +2

      DavidFrostbite sheer stupid laziness

    • @AcidRP
      @AcidRP 6 лет назад +10

      proprietary greed

    • @Markinpuff
      @Markinpuff 6 лет назад +3

      I'm sure Cablemod doesn't care, that's for sure...

  • @VinnyXL420
    @VinnyXL420 7 лет назад +29

    Yep, that -8V example is exactly what happened to Greg from Salazar Studio! :D

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +45

    Hey everyone! Just a quick educational video on an important topic. You can quickly learn this information in our article, if you prefer! www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2702-psa-on-mixing-modular-psu-cables-dont-do-it

    • @oldschoolbeat1984
      @oldschoolbeat1984 7 лет назад +1

      Hey Steve nice video. Didn't know that the PSU cables are not universal. But does this goes for these custom made sleeved (colorful) cables?!?

    • @AhmadNaim93
      @AhmadNaim93 7 лет назад +2

      Georgi Nedyalkov there are 2 kind of sleeved cables. extension and full replacement. extensions are compatible with all psu model.

    • @orionagappe8567
      @orionagappe8567 7 лет назад +1

      Been there, done that. My PC just wouldn't turn on.

    • @GotoTechReviewsChannel
      @GotoTechReviewsChannel 7 лет назад

      The extension ones should work on all as it literally is a 1:1 pin-out and extension. Typically, the full replacement custom sleeved cables will specify which PSU it is meant for usually sold in a kit.

    • @ShermanFlick
      @ShermanFlick 7 лет назад +3

      Great video, there should definitly be a standard for the cables on the psu side as well. This would also benefit cable shops for the custom sleeved cables, as they could potentially offer much higher colour variety.

  • @PaleandPastey
    @PaleandPastey 7 лет назад +166

    I can't imagine what prompted this video ;P

  • @ShikiKaze
    @ShikiKaze 7 лет назад +11

    Still mind blown your channel doesn't have +500k, with all the detailed videos I literally binged through.Time to start throwing your channel name around.

    • @user-yf8il6we2z
      @user-yf8il6we2z 5 лет назад

      Not enough Linux content to get more subs.

    • @kitocat6331
      @kitocat6331 29 дней назад

      7 year later they have!

  • @ipushpeople7221
    @ipushpeople7221 7 лет назад +14

    I have only one modular psu, very good to know before I screw it up. this channel is very informative, thanks man. I love technical videos.

  • @lc7ineo
    @lc7ineo 7 лет назад +91

    this smells like Salazar Studio magic smoke

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад +10

      It was. Salazar admitted it and posted a video about GN/NZXT helping identify the actual PSU cabling problem.

    • @bashirwada
      @bashirwada 7 лет назад

      LC 7INEO it's just a general psa.. ffs people read the description..

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад +3

      It is a PSA, but it's coincidentally immediately after Salazar (forrmerly YT ScienceStudio) worked with GN to understand the problem with his blown systems due to incorrect cabling of a modular PSU. It's just a coincidence :)

    • @bashirwada
      @bashirwada 7 лет назад

      Matt McGregor ..I already knew that, anybody who follows salazar studio would know(why'd he change his name anyway... I like the previous one...)

    • @Grrizz84
      @Grrizz84 7 лет назад +9

      +Bashir Wada Because hes really bad at taking a scientific approach to things.

  • @NJP76
    @NJP76 7 лет назад +2

    I can't believe that this is the ONLY video about this topic! I didn't know about this when I built my latest system. I ended up using a Silverstone PCIE cable on my EVGA PSU for numerous reasons. It fits the socket on the PSU. Everything seems to be working fine, but I have decided to go back to the original flat EVGA cable, and use a PCIE extension cable to complete the run.

  • @lukecheski1747
    @lukecheski1747 7 лет назад +7

    I am confounded by the lack of subscribers for this channel (well 73k isn't exactly nothing). I've been a Linus Tech Tips sub for years and I've found that I'm learning a hell of a lot more about tech from this channel and actually hardcore overclocking. love your stuff guys :)

    • @drb0mb
      @drb0mb Год назад +2

      not enough memes and fuckery here, it's aimed for older teenage enthusiasts and adults. linus' target audience is children.

    • @TheDoomer666
      @TheDoomer666 Год назад

      thanks for the perspective; so it's taken them about 6 years to reach nearly 2mm subscribers, though idk what to do with that info now that I want to start my own channel

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 7 лет назад +13

    Good advice. I would also add that never ever work on computers when you are tired or burnt out. That is the time when you can make expensive mistakes. Go take a nap or such and come back fresh.

    • @GotoTechReviewsChannel
      @GotoTechReviewsChannel 7 лет назад +5

      Yup, it's usually in the heat of the moment too when things aren't thought out too well (speaking from experience).

    • @DJ_Dopamine
      @DJ_Dopamine 7 лет назад +3

      Good point. I built a rather large system recently and it was a big job, taking several hours at the end of a long day.
      I got only one thing wrong because I was tired... forgot to connect the power up to the CPU pump.
      (There were so many cables running in there that I though I had clicked them all together.)
      The CPU hit almost 100 degrees by the time I entered the bios menu after the first post.
      Fortunately I spotted this straight away - before any damage was done. I went straight to bed without installing Windows!

  • @barrycooper8640
    @barrycooper8640 7 лет назад +43

    Aha! The old Salazar Sizzle.

  • @lilbabygroot
    @lilbabygroot 7 лет назад +67

    Salzar somewhat ruining the reputation of the NZXT Hue+ because of his mistake in using the wrong cable is my guess as to why they made this video.

    • @znoozaros
      @znoozaros 7 лет назад +4

      I think it probably increased their sales in the end

    • @lilbabygroot
      @lilbabygroot 7 лет назад

      ratchet256 that's how I know that he used the wrong cable

    • @jonny727272
      @jonny727272 7 лет назад +1

      He actually said that gamers nexus helped him figure out the issue. Or maybe it was NZXT reps that said that?

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 7 лет назад +4

      John Gray Exactly, I think so, too. I saw one guy on the apology video say that he bought a hue+ just to support NZXT. With how cool they were during the process, and Greg showing his audience that, it may very well have increased sales in the end.

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад +3

      It is a shame how NZXT got in the crossfire however. He did apologize and presumably took down the offending videos. The issue for NZXT was short lived and had limited viewing. Most who saw the first would have watched the second. I doubt the impact was that bad!

  • @ping123ize
    @ping123ize 7 лет назад +80

    Is this related to the salazar studio incident?

    • @djimty
      @djimty 7 лет назад +1

      Most likely

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +7

      Just a general PSA :) We have done these before, if anyone likes this format! Here's a good one on fake DVI cables:
      ruclips.net/video/4lwwO-eNJPc/видео.html
      (Wow. 2013!)

    • @VinnyXL420
      @VinnyXL420 7 лет назад +1

      Directly!

    • @nathanrwin
      @nathanrwin 7 лет назад +1

      i was just about to ask that haha

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад

      I think that many people would assume if it fits in the PSU plug it works. Most people don't have enough PSUs to make the mistake. It is a shame how NZXT got in the crossfire however. He did apologize and presumably took down the videos. The issue for NZXT was short lived and had limited viewing.

  • @SlemonyGas
    @SlemonyGas 7 лет назад +100

    Reminds me of Salazar Studio.

    • @leeskieferrell2003
      @leeskieferrell2003 7 лет назад +21

      Lord Casodi ........yea, Gamers Nexus are the ones that pointed out Salazar's oversight in making videos blaming nzxt before truly tracing down the real problem and hurting nzxt's bottom line.

    • @mecheng1993
      @mecheng1993 7 лет назад +1

      Came here to say this. Damn you lol.

    • @leeskieferrell2003
      @leeskieferrell2003 7 лет назад +1

      Well I said it on his channel but apart from responding to the smallest of points, he veered clear of the main point, that if he were as adept as he claims to be, checking a resistor and being certain of your conclusions before doing something so irresponsible seems.... well... The obvious thing to do. That being said, I attempted to talk to him and he would only speak to how it was a simple cable swap (which I has already conceded) but again, would Not say anything further and told me to block him...I assume that he blocked me because he never replied to me after his first comment that side stepped mine. It seems everyone is just so "impressed" with the "guts" it took for the rich kid to do what he was at that point legally bound to do. Anyone could have made that mistake... ANYONE.... but not just ANYONE would have made a play for views and subs and made 3 videos based on an extremely questionable "diagnosis" .
      I frankly see more praiseworthy character in someone that DOESN'T hurt someone else because they were thorough and more conservative in their approach.... Than to big up someone's ego by telling them how adult they are because they were reckless in their accusations and now have to "apologize".

    • @SlemonyGas
      @SlemonyGas 7 лет назад +3

      I'm not even surprised. He seems like the kinda person to do that.

    • @darncodemonkey
      @darncodemonkey 7 лет назад +2

      It just made me cringe more and more when he constantly tried to turn on his PC. I just wanted to jump through the screen and be like stop!!!!

  • @helloworld459
    @helloworld459 7 лет назад +32

    I just don't understand how Salazar has so many subs and he is clearly not on the same level as Steve

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад +1

      He doesn't have too many, but he has more than 5 for sure and probably MUCH less the GN. Check out Salizar's studio tour and inventory video shots a few months back where you can see the piles of "stuff" he has around through purchase or for review. His organization was not perfect apparently, and he just reached for a cord. I think that many people would assume if it fits in the PSU it works.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 7 лет назад +9

      "he is clearly not on the same level as Steve" Noone is on Steve's level, though.
      But yeah, Salazar is definately not the most tech-savvy tech-youtuber and is also quick to blame companies for his own mistakes. Remember his RX 480 budget build, where the RX480 fried his Board? Any halfway recent Motherboard wouldn't have gotten fried and there are a lot of GPUs out there that would also have fried his particular Board, but he put it as though AMD made a huge oversight, while it just wasn't a good idea to build a high-performance gaming-PC with a power-hungry 250$ GPU around a five years old 20$ MOBO.

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад

      Agreed that he is not at Steve's level, but I would respectfully disagree with the MB/GPU comment. Yes, there are better MBs out there and that was an OLD board, but the RX 480 was supposed to be a less-power hungry (turned out not so much) lower cost alternative for 1080P gaming. Those that would purchase this would not have the latest and greatest MB/HW but would typically try to put that card as an upgrade into older machines to improve FPS. I thought the test was legitimate unless the MB was known to be a problem; which I don't think it was.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 7 лет назад +3

      Matt McGregor would you really put 250$ GPU into a 20$ PSU? I think that's adventurous, to say the least.
      However, The 75W limit only exists on paper today and other cards, like the GTX 750(ti, was it?), the 960 strix and the 950 slot powered card and about any manually overclocked card also exceeds that limit. Thus I'd rather blame the MOBO. After all, what CPU is there on AM2, that wouldn't be a huge bottleneck to the RX 480? I think he cheaped out way to much on the MOBO
      Of course it would've been better if the RX480 had an 8-Pin to not cause this issue, but saying this is solely AMDs fault and you shouldn't buy the reference card because it this, like he did, was way over the top

    • @Bare_Essence
      @Bare_Essence 7 лет назад

      Well it probably was not $20 when someone bought it new 5-6 years ago. You would have to talk to Brian @ Tech City about that. He lives for that kind of "score"; though typically he would use a $20 GPU. I have a 6 year old machine (I7 950 DDR3) with a very old power supply. I dropped in a 1070 for testing and benchmarking against a 1070 in my recent SkyLake build. That would have been the upgrade machine if I did not just bite the bullet and built a new one. The PSU in that older machine is probably worth $20 at best now. It's not even 80+ rated. People without the funds might only have enough for a new GPU and if the PSU has a 6-Pin (or extra molex) ... they will do it.

  • @thelittledetailscr7231
    @thelittledetailscr7231 7 лет назад +52

    In 5 years this channel is going to have over 1 million subs. Calling it now.

    • @dmluciano8
      @dmluciano8 7 лет назад +16

      TheLittleDetails CR Seeing techsource hit 1 million while GN sits under 100k is mind boggling.

    • @taipeitaiwan10
      @taipeitaiwan10 7 лет назад +3

      AMEN! Techsource is sh%# and this is actually informative.

    • @dmluciano8
      @dmluciano8 7 лет назад

      he's not bad but i guess it is completely different content

    • @irsever
      @irsever 7 лет назад

      They ought to have at least more than the idiots nuking their own equipment

    • @ralanham76
      @ralanham76 6 лет назад

      Only 4 year's to go.

  • @FacelessVixen
    @FacelessVixen 7 лет назад +4

    What a coincidence... I just so happen to be upgrading from a 750 Ti to a Strix 1060, but I lost the original PCIE 6+2 cable that came with my Corsair PSU at some point a year or two ago and bought a Silverstone PCIE cable around the same time thinking it would work. Good thing this video came along, otherwise I'd be losing my shit trying to understand why the cable doesn't fit into the PSU and what could go wrong even if it did fit. So big thanks to GN for allowing me to keep what little sanity I have left. Shame that I can't play with my Strix just yet, but it's better than having a dead PC.

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 7 лет назад +1

    This video was very timely, I just bought my first modular PSU. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to let everyone know the potential issues. I will definitely bag my cables, and maybe even label them individually.

  • @SSS-mp8th
    @SSS-mp8th 7 лет назад +5

    The only time this is an issue is if you have multiple modular PSU's or you are changing out PSU's. You just need to be able to separate the old and the new and label them. I will say that until this issue came up on youtube I wouldn't have know about it so for me at least his mistake was educational.

  • @Balkan_game
    @Balkan_game 4 года назад

    In Serbia there are not many modular cables makers , so I got one from my friends suggestion and got what I wanted . Man is working on it in last 4 years and he knows for which psu to make right cables !!!! I bought black-red cables for my Seasonic Focus GX-750 !!!!

  • @MJohonez299
    @MJohonez299 7 лет назад +4

    i feel like Patrick is being sarcastic the entire time. and i like it!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +7

      He's not! He just puts on his "teacher voice" for educational videos. Patrick teaches computer engineering topics at a local school.

    • @MJohonez299
      @MJohonez299 7 лет назад

      Gamers Nexus that would be an awesome class!

  • @yoitsmegabe
    @yoitsmegabe 7 лет назад +4

    There are time when this feels like an SNL skit. Steve looks like he's going to break character and laugh.

  • @vonrizzo
    @vonrizzo 7 лет назад +7

    you guys rock... nice to see some smart, informative computer tips...

  • @Ideeem
    @Ideeem 7 лет назад +7

    Clint Eastwood sure knows how to stay young.

  • @TheTrueRandomness
    @TheTrueRandomness 7 лет назад +3

    This is why I hate that modular PSU's usually don't have the pinouts defined. Also makes creating custom cabling more tedious then it should be.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +2

      It'd be great if they had the pin-out/coloring directly on the back of the PSU. Way too easy to make mistakes.

  • @marijanovic191x7
    @marijanovic191x7 7 лет назад +12

    Salazar Studios, I guess, is the cause for this video. ;-)

  • @marioStortuga
    @marioStortuga 7 лет назад +15

    I know where this PSA came from. Some you tuber killed 2 rigs cause of this .

  • @sabbilon4542
    @sabbilon4542 7 лет назад +2

    This is why cable mod NEEDS to know what PSU you want custom cables for. Those are not interchangeable either. Extensions are a safer bet but have probably made people think anything will work.

  • @fuppetti
    @fuppetti 7 лет назад +5

    All we need is an industry standard for this.

  • @lordsqueak
    @lordsqueak 7 лет назад +4

    Wow, this kinda blew my mind!
    Who the eff would actually use a standard connector and Not connect the pins according to standard!!! The engineers responsible for that should not be working in this field anymore. Non-standard pinouts on PSU's should mean those PSU's can not be sold. it is unsafe. They want you to use "their" brand cables, they can bloody well use a different connector for it.
    I can guarantee you that 99,9% of everyone building a computer wouldn't even suspect the standard connector wouldn't have standard pin-outs. The other 0,1% probably learned it the hard and expensive way.
    A quick PSA is .. just not enough. you guy's should be blacklisting any PSU's doing this, and display a list of PSU's to avoid. with skulls and crossbones.

    • @lordsqueak
      @lordsqueak 6 лет назад

      "There is no standard"

    • @karashibass
      @karashibass 6 лет назад

      Feels good to be in the 0%. ;)

    • @lordsqueak
      @lordsqueak 6 лет назад

      did you not watch the video at all? do you fail to understand what the point of a standard is?
      When a manufacturer uses 8 pin PCIe connectors in PSU, and does not follow standard pinouts, and does NOT label the cable as a non-standard cable.
      What do you think will happen when someone tries to build a PC and uses their own custom sleeved cables or simply need a longer cable?
      Standards are there for a reason, so that we can safely use any parts we want to build or repair a PC. it's that simple.
      If manufacturers wants to have their own special pinouts, they should use their own connectors for it, not rewire established standard connectors.

  • @taipeitaiwan10
    @taipeitaiwan10 7 лет назад +11

    Brought to you by Salazar Studio....

  • @thomasjarvis3608
    @thomasjarvis3608 7 лет назад +9

    cc: SalazarStudio

  • @afelias
    @afelias 3 года назад +2

    OK so, 4 years later, is this still a problem that there aren't connector standards for Modular PSUs?

  • @iwantmypot
    @iwantmypot 6 лет назад +1

    What would be nice is if PSU manufacturers would change the keying on the slots to match the power being output from that pin. So a fully square slot could be a ground wire. Top left corner cut off could be the +5v, both top corners +12v, top right corner +3.3v, and then bottom corners could represent negatives of those same numbers. (e.g., bottom left -5v) With this layout, a 3.3v and 5v could never be inserted into anything but their own slot or a ground slot. A 12v however could be inserted into any of those slots and end up being undervolted.
    I think it's too late to make this change as a universal standard. Too many components rely on backwards compatibility.
    Since there's 4 corners to choose from, there's actually 16 different variations that could be used to indicate exactly what that wire is being used for. That's more than enough even for the pin layout on the 24pin connector since there's many repeats.

  • @CuriousTinkering
    @CuriousTinkering 7 лет назад +4

    This must related to what happened to Salazar Studios and Hue+

  • @abrahamgrams109
    @abrahamgrams109 7 лет назад +19

    I know exactly who this video is actually about..... Gotta love watching a youtuber kill two of his own rigs LUL.

    • @theALPHAwolfify
      @theALPHAwolfify 7 лет назад +4

      Abraham Grams immediately scrolled down to comments to see if anyone else did

    • @Averna222
      @Averna222 7 лет назад +1

      Liam Polarbear lol same

  • @TheBigNoob
    @TheBigNoob 2 года назад

    Here in 2022 I learned this lesson the hard way. Wish I had seen this video back in 2016. Just burnt out my Corsair Sp Lighting Controller. Definitely could have been a worse component, but the smoke coming from it when I turned on my computer was not a pleasant experience.

  • @terraint3697
    @terraint3697 7 лет назад +1

    Never thought about this! Thanks for the information!

  • @stevie-ray2020
    @stevie-ray2020 7 лет назад +1

    Also remove all the old PSU modular cables and bag them if you're replacing it with another modular PSU even if it's the same brand! Discovered this very issue when the first modular PSU I had, an Antec, died. Fortunately it was physically impossible to interchange cables from the old PSU to the 3yrs newer Antec PSU!

  • @f4z0
    @f4z0 7 лет назад +5

    It's so nice vadimir putin came to explain why we should not mess cables up... Apparently in soviet Russia cables mess YOU up.

  • @glhf5922
    @glhf5922 7 лет назад +1

    I did not know this. This might be a life saver.

  • @YourFavoriteSub
    @YourFavoriteSub 7 лет назад +2

    Does this apply to non modular PSUs and cable extenders?

  • @milodon316
    @milodon316 7 лет назад +6

    that's why i store all my PSU cables in their original PSU box, that way i avoid confusions, or i would if i had more than one power supply XD.

    • @kn00tcn
      @kn00tcn 7 лет назад +3

      next time you open the box, a cable is missing... *dundundun*

  • @xKhronusx
    @xKhronusx 7 лет назад

    I never considered using other vendors cables with my power supply. Great content guys!

  • @pirate252
    @pirate252 5 лет назад +1

    ALLLLmost screwed this up recently between EVGA and Antec - glad I took a closer look because they WILL plug in with no modification but whew boy would it have blown stuff up...

  • @erichennenhoefer9369
    @erichennenhoefer9369 6 лет назад

    I watched this video a while back and thought, how strange. Well, I just hit this problem on a system with an EVGA PSU that wouldn't boot up when I connected a fan controller. Of course I was making multiple changes so it took a while to isolate to attaching the controller's molex cable for power. After going through the stages of denial I remembered this video. Thanks. I'd suggest calling out unlabeled cables for modular power supplies as an area for improvement in reviews... Also can we just stop with the Molex.

  • @campbelds
    @campbelds 7 лет назад +1

    im have to disagree with manufacturers not standardizing. a 6pin connector is pinned for a specific set up. if you wanna move it. spend the 5 cents each on connectors to have them keyed properly. id spend 5 bucks to make sure it was right

  • @techinitiate9318
    @techinitiate9318 6 лет назад +1

    I can't up vote this enough. This is extremely important information.

  • @MarcAngello
    @MarcAngello 6 лет назад

    I wish I had seen this earlier... I've been going BONKERS these last few days because of exactly this! I was using different psu cables on the wrong PSUs. I was building custom gaming PCs and they kept rebooting non-stop continuously. I was very fortunate that the devices I had connected to it did not fry! And the only issue was that BIOS would not POST. Once I had removed the extra psu cables everything came up just fine. With these newer Semi-Modular PSUs it's so easy to mix up the cables too because you can't identify the wire colors because they're all black. On models like, EVGA, Cooler Master, Corsair, etc.. Going forward going I'll be labeling all my PSU cables so that they never get connected to the wrong PSU.

  • @GX2re
    @GX2re 7 лет назад

    This channel is underrated

  • @robodog7610
    @robodog7610 6 лет назад

    This might be an issue with some manufacturers. Most of the reputable ones ( Seasonic, EVGA, Corsiar, Antec, etc ) label cables and connectors properly so you see where something is meant to be connected.
    Why there isnt color standard for connectors is beyond me. This could be solved easily as you can either color insides of connectors, or add colored line on top of the connector.

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 4 года назад +2

    Keying is already (mostly) standardized, and therein lies the problem. If keys varied across manufacturers, people couldn't plug in the wrong cable in the first place, but I think varying keys is the wrong answer. I'm sure they don't do so because it's cheaper to use a ready supply of like headers. It is in the *power supply manufacturer's best interest* to standardize pin-outs, though, because processing warranty claims is expensive for them. Even if ultimately they deny a warranty claim because they can prove the PS was damaged by using the wrong cable, they still have to process the claim, examine the unit, communicate with the customer, etc.. Labor is expensive! They could cut out an entire class of warranty claims and related expenses by agreeing to standard pin-outs as they have (de facto) agreed to standard keying. I'm certain they would save more money than they would spend in the process. As far as being able to support manufacturer-specific features, like the LEDs mentioned in the video, they can still do so with a uniquely-keyed cable in a new socket, but they should also submit that cable, pin-out, and functionality for standardization for all the same reasons.

  • @liamnissanS2K
    @liamnissanS2K 5 лет назад +1

    RIP my SSD and HDD. The worst part Is I mixed my PSU cables up cause I was unaware of this issue. So now Idk what cables go to my old PSU and my new PSU.

  • @CompuTechish
    @CompuTechish 6 лет назад +1

    Hey guys, I have a modular PSU that has no PCI-e cables. How could I make one? I can’t seem to understand the pinout or diagram in the manual.
    Thanks.

  • @butre.
    @butre. 4 года назад

    you can often pretty trivially depin modular psu cables and reconfigure them to match your new power supply. I've done this a few times making my old antec cables match newer power supplies.

  • @DunkinNugget
    @DunkinNugget 6 лет назад

    I honestly think that even messaging the manufacturer about that you're missing a cable and not sure what happened to it, they might be able to send you some new cables for either a fee or free. I've received free cables from NZXT for their AER RGB Fans because I lost them, Some Kraken Cables for the Kraken X62 and I've had them ship out a new TP Glass panel for my S340 Elite,.... ALL FREE OF CHARGE. So you never know, maybe they'll be willing you help you out, it doesn't hurt to ask.

  • @KingSullification
    @KingSullification 5 лет назад

    Killed 3 boards this way. I had no idea what was doing this. I ended up figuring it out by luck. There's next to no documentation or warnings about this out there during installation.

  • @damienlahoz
    @damienlahoz 5 лет назад

    Gamers Nexus is the best. The best.

  • @xtrash1ove
    @xtrash1ove 6 лет назад

    Wait I cannot figure how it can possibly happen. Gpus all have the same connector layout. That means you either need to have an exact same layout on a psu, or re-arrange channels but then you have to crisscross wires inside the cable sleeve, so that you get a correct output in the end. Who on earth (and why?!) would go for the second approach?

  • @TobyCowles
    @TobyCowles 7 лет назад +3

    You are doing this because science studio blew up his new x99 build right

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot 7 лет назад +1

    I was really _really_ hoping youd show an example of a component exploding just to add to the effect. Its not to late to make a follow-up!

    • @GX2re
      @GX2re 7 лет назад

      SoCalledDante He took them down

    • @GX2re
      @GX2re 7 лет назад

      SoCalledDante Yeah took anything that talked bad about NZXT down

  • @aBoogivogi
    @aBoogivogi 7 лет назад

    Just a heads up. Corsair pretty much use an internally universal wiring scheme for their connector on the PSU. Propably to avoid producing a large range of replacement kits. This is a pretty nice bonus for us consumers assuming you own 2-3 computers as you can replace cables from one unit with those of another.
    So a couple of other questions:
    - For those of us over seas is there a good place to pick up molex connectors (ideally from asia) in order for us to make custom sleeved cables.
    - Assuming you don't have the connector you need for any given PSU can you do a check to probe your connector on the PSU side. I would guess having a single cable where the ground cable is known might help you find the right cable via voltage detection, or will that short the PSU causing damage?
    - What's the best wire to use. I'm guessing the 5V and 12V respectively can use different wires, but assuming you just wan't to go the easy route and order one type which rating/cross section should it have?
    Thanks in advance for any help :)

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 7 лет назад

      Is the wiring really the same for all corsair PSU series?
      Because cablemod for example sells two different types of cables for different corsair PSU series, so it seems they used diffferent pinouts

    • @aBoogivogi
      @aBoogivogi 7 лет назад

      LRM12o8 They may have two sets, but at least they are standardised. I have used mine interchangeably between 3-4 year old units and brand new once. Please note that for the older once compatibility was not listed on the replacement kit, but Corsair support confirmed that they were basically the same. I believe the cable set only listed their latest iteration of the same PSU that I had.

    • @aBoogivogi
      @aBoogivogi 7 лет назад

      ***** Thank you. This is really useful. No I just need to find some shop (preferably online and in china) that sells the actual molex connectors I need :)

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 7 лет назад

      Thank's for the information, it's much appreciated.
      I'll save me the trouble, however and just gonna stick with my non-modular PSU and use some custom sleeved cablemod extensions. That's mainly for cost reasons and since every case now has a basement with PSU shroud you can't see it anyway. ;-)

    • @MrMattumbo
      @MrMattumbo 3 года назад

      And of course EVGA uses their own standard that is opposite of this so using a corsair cable will fry you components. YAY! Thanks EVGA, your bullshit just fried an SSD and HDD. And of course the warning about using different cables was in small red print below another warning, and was worded to sound like some boilerplate liability statement. PUT THE WARNING IN BIG LETTERS AND SPELL OUT WHY YOU SHOULD LISTEN, TELL ME YOUR PINS ARE DIFFERENT!
      Modular should mean modular, the damn connectors on the end are standardized why in the fuck wouldn't the plug be standard? This is like making something with a wall plug but making ground positive and neutral ground and expecting people to know not to plug it into the wall!

  • @SocrasPt
    @SocrasPt 7 лет назад

    I saw someone wrecking an x99 because of this! I feel sorry for him! He learned from the mistake i learn from the video. Ive learned even more from this video thank you! And what about cable mods with sleevings? If cable plugs are universal and cable placements are not, choosing a custom cable for my rig will be not so cheap or simple as i thought.

  • @d0m1n4t1
    @d0m1n4t1 7 лет назад

    Always unique content on this channel. I really enjoy it.

  • @Klikkitse
    @Klikkitse 7 лет назад

    These mistakes can be really costly! Just a heads up; a friend of mine used the wrong cable from a peripheral socket on PSU to sata power on a DVD drive. Result? Not quite what you expect: DVD drive burnt something, allowed reverse current through the PSU and ended up frying the CPU and motherboard socket. Seriously, never use cables unless you know 100% they are the correct ones.

  • @nicholasclark4079
    @nicholasclark4079 6 лет назад

    You guys are doing such incredible work. Keep it up!

  • @bushwickbillOG
    @bushwickbillOG 7 лет назад +1

    lol @ Steve smirking at the start when the other dude talking bout male n female connectors

  • @neardood1
    @neardood1 5 лет назад

    Small props to corsair for making their modular cables across different generations standard. Used them for a mining rig with no problems.

  • @TheGigaMan
    @TheGigaMan 3 года назад

    I know this is an old video, and I can't believe I missed it...
    Today I killed 2x SSDs by using Corsair PSU SATA Power cable on a EVGA Supernova Peripherals port on the PSU...
    I can't believe I'd make such a mistake in 2021 with all the information out there...
    From the future, thank you 2016 Steve lol

    • @vurplex3082
      @vurplex3082 3 года назад

      I managed to destroy a corsair commander core controller for an AIO today and there aren't any spares available anywhere so I'm going to need to buy a new AIO, cant believe i missed this one too...

    • @dakoderii4221
      @dakoderii4221 3 года назад +1

      Don't feel bad. Kyle has joined your ranks this week as well. Lyle should make a video on it.

    • @ChineseWinnie
      @ChineseWinnie 3 года назад

      So your HDD is dead but is your psu completely fine? I think my hdds are dead....

    • @TheGigaMan
      @TheGigaMan 3 года назад

      @@ChineseWinnie Yep lol
      It was a good EVGA PSU

  • @DAGATHire
    @DAGATHire 7 лет назад

    every time that guy speaks i'm involuntarily nodding and saying YES SIR!

  • @dadominate
    @dadominate 2 года назад

    Would the same apply to cable modem power supplies? Despite my questioning whether it was okay, an Xfinity tech was mix and matching the power supplies he had on hand to my cable modem since I did not have the power supply on hand. He joked that he wouldn't recommend doing it for the long haul, but it makes me wonder if it was a problem to do it at all? Everything seems okay now that I have the correct power supply plugged into the cable modem, but could this have caused any damage?

  • @calmingnight3376
    @calmingnight3376 Год назад

    So basically in short terms, just use the cables that match the power supply.
    Like don't use a powerchord from X to put in with Y, just use Y psu and the Y powerchord
    Am I right?

  • @drewendly89
    @drewendly89 2 года назад

    So not all cables run parallel with one another, some cross and land on a different pin than they started? Right? Seems crazy that wouldn't be the case, which is why it took me so long to figure this out, otherwise it'd be the case that devices could receive any arbitrary voltage or polarity and be able to route and utilize it however it needed to.

  • @RepsUp100
    @RepsUp100 7 лет назад

    Can SLI be enabled through drivers or BIOS update for GTX 1050 / 1060 ? #ASKGN

  • @youwut8378
    @youwut8378 4 года назад +1

    I ran into this problem recently about a month ago. I did some appearance upgrades to my PC and bought some new cable mod cables, plugged them into my thermaltake psu and I heard the psu beep. Confused as I was because I’ve never heard a psu beep and no power was pushed to the system. googled it and nothing was out there on this problem, nothing in the manual just emptiness on the internet. It took me 2 hours of trouble shooting to come to the conclusion that I should check the cables and plug the previous ones in, and sure as shit it was the cables.

    • @votaveri
      @votaveri 4 года назад

      All components tested fine? I just did this with my Corsair 750 and wanted to know if there are any long term negatives.

    • @legendofstar1989
      @legendofstar1989 4 года назад

      hey bro is the new power supply working after the beep ? i need to know that please .

  • @Zarcondeegrissom
    @Zarcondeegrissom 7 лет назад +1

    Best just to first check with a multi-meter any way. I've received wrong-pin-out PCIe cables included with enthusiast power supplies, and I've also had dud rails on some brand new server units (+6v on the +5v rail, etc). And don't get me started with the aluminum wires with copper connector pins. There is no such thing as an infallible Power supply manufacturer, they All have some spectacular junk these days.

  • @kcvriess
    @kcvriess 7 лет назад

    Up until now I've only ever had Antec PSU's so no issue's but thanks for the info guys!

  • @jimmylim5015
    @jimmylim5015 Год назад

    I just made a noob mistake transferring parts from an old case to a new. Wanted to use an 850W changing from a 750W, problem was I was missing the fan cables, so my stupidity came up using one of the fan cables from my 1000W then something from the motherboard started smoking and immediately disconnected the power. Thankfully, being ASUS motherboard, everything seems to be working when I used the 750W brick again-now the questionnaire: I wonder if I truly damaged something as I could not determine where the smoke originated?

  • @FedeRama
    @FedeRama 5 лет назад

    Is this video for those who use cables for one psu branch into another different? or what? because psu has layout for every cable so you connect them correctly, also theyre have different pins so you cant connect it wrong

  • @jacksonshoemaker2013
    @jacksonshoemaker2013 7 лет назад

    You guys should have 10x the amount of subs you have. Js beard FTW

  • @fendularatsq2317
    @fendularatsq2317 7 лет назад

    Patrick looks like "sup brah dude", was waiting whole video for him to say something like that xD

  • @justin60222
    @justin60222 3 года назад

    I was wondering how this happens so I looked at a PCI-E cable. I was thinking well one end is standard and other is not but also the wires are always straight and don't cross but they actually do... right at the PSU end. At the PSU end they all cross and go to whatever pin it's supposed to on the PSU. Why don't they match the standard from one end to the other?

  • @genrabbit9995
    @genrabbit9995 7 лет назад

    Hi Steve, good video. Just a thought, with your contacts, wouldn't it be an idea to talk to PSU suppliers and ask them to label their cables? It can't cost that much. And getting new cables for a PSU is not possible asfar as I can tell

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi 6 лет назад

    Some cables even have in-built resistors/capacitors in them, which is even crazier.

  • @steamkidsdad
    @steamkidsdad 7 лет назад +2

    so what if you take a cable from the same brand and model power supply just different wattage? would this still be a problem?

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +3

      Yes. It definitely can be.

    • @steamkidsdad
      @steamkidsdad 7 лет назад

      thank you.

    • @steamkidsdad
      @steamkidsdad 7 лет назад

      noted so if I don't have the cables for the current power supply(750w) I'm using in my pc and instead using ones for the 650w that is the same brand/model in this case evgas GQ 750w and 650w power supplies. would it be a better idea to buy a new power supply and start fresh if I can't order cables from evga for the 750w power supply? I'm still pretty new to pc building.

    • @steamkidsdad
      @steamkidsdad 7 лет назад +1

      3en6ie 3en6ie awesome thank you for the help.

    • @sabbilon4542
      @sabbilon4542 7 лет назад +1

      You could order custom cables from a reputable third part source like cablemod. They need to ask you for what power supply. Even cheaper would be to check the pin out or take the power supply and cables to someone who can do that for you. If you are building your own computer you should know how to do that. DO NOT take the cover off you PSU unless you really know what you are doing.
      Building computers maybe be like lego but lego with electricity.

  • @obzen33
    @obzen33 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks GN!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  7 лет назад +2

      Thanks for watching! Always good to see familiar names in the comments. ^SB

    • @obzen33
      @obzen33 7 лет назад +1

      Gamers Nexus i watch all the videos you guys make. GN and PcPer are my go to channels!

  • @AxiomofDiscord
    @AxiomofDiscord 6 лет назад

    I wish manufacturers would just put the key on the power supply over the connectors. I also hate all black wires for this reason. Luckily all the cables I have at my place are Antec so far. If I buy another modular power supply from another brand I will look into how they are keyed and keep them separate.

  • @james2042
    @james2042 7 лет назад

    I have two power supplies, two different manufacturers (corsair and evga) and both have standard shaped plugs and identical color and sleeving (all black, same material) so its next to impossible to tell them apart, and none of the cables are cross compatible

  • @duerocovena946
    @duerocovena946 7 лет назад

    This happened to me, where I used a molex connector from my old PSU to a new one. I thought its standardized why I did it, however I did not know that the PSU side configurations were different. Good thing the device I am connecting is only a lighting system.. so I burned my RGB lighting.. however I am lucky as only the ground wire and connector where burnt.

  • @MaxJ345
    @MaxJ345 7 лет назад

    Simple but informative. Thanks for the heads-up guys!

  • @franciscorodriguez5963
    @franciscorodriguez5963 3 года назад

    So if I buy custom cables, do I have to change the pins so that the part that goes into the PSU and the part that goes into the component has the correct layout respectively?

  • @DLiu-ff1zx
    @DLiu-ff1zx 7 лет назад

    Voltages aside, is there any detriment to mixing cables based on whether they have integrated capacitors?

  • @chadc2222
    @chadc2222 6 лет назад +1

    If it ends in a standard connection it should start in one. Screw proprietors.

  • @hamzagamer552
    @hamzagamer552 Год назад +1

    Can i use corsair cx750m 3 pin power cord with xpg core reactor 750 watt psu?

  • @emilik82
    @emilik82 5 лет назад

    Just a cople of days ago killed my new h370 motherboard after i change original cables for those shorter from different manufacturer. Strange thing is that PSU survived. But don't know yet if my 16GB ram module and I7 8700 cpu are alive. I pray they're ok.

  • @BiecherBender
    @BiecherBender 7 лет назад +1

    thanks, didn't know this at all. It thought it is standardised!