I disagree with the energy use you don’t necessarily have to use hot water. And the costs differ if water is heated with gas. To gloss it over that proves your conclusion to be moot. Hand washing for us is a big cost saver on energy
Right? It feels like there are so many tools in our day-to-day life that we've taken for granted for decades upon decades in a way that modernity just *assumes* we know how to optimally use them... but we don't!
The time and effort savings alone makes it worth it. I've had people argue with me that they can finish washing the dishes by hand faster than my dishwasher's 2 hour cycle. I counter by telling them that I only spend time loading and unloading the dishwasher. The dishwasher's working time isn't using my own time. I am free to do other things while it works.
@@MNbenMN I will say, having a "natural mandatory break" on the kind of "medium length trip" where you need to charge _once_ and can plan for it can be kinda nice. Get a gas station coffe and chill out But that's of course driving where there's infrastructure for it, and not going along a vast desert highway or what have you (I'm from Sweden, we don't have a lot of those) Though that's where the _actual_ superior mode of transportation would be a nice option: TRAINS
I washed dishes by hand throughout college (no dishwasher available). When I moved into a place with a dishwasher, I used it avidly, but always wondered if I was wasting water because I didn't own enough dishes to fill a full load. It's good to know for certain that I have not been wasting water as I absolutely would be hand washing for more than 4 minutes.
@@rogerwilco2 yeah that kinda confused me too. We have both a dishwasher and we hand wash just because we have a ton of dishes and we always just fill up the sink like 1/3 of the way and wash everything in there. I also noticed in the video that they werent doing that and just let the water go down the drain which really just confused me
@@rogerwilco2I’m quite convinced that the participants of any dishwasher vs handwasher comparison are running the water the whole time they handwash and thus favoring the dishwasher. I see the same thing happening when people wash their hands, and I wonder who taught them that. But then I see water constantly being ran like that in movie and tv shows…
@@hynnow18for letting water run when you wash your hand (especially in public space), there are reasons (if they don't close the sink using paper towel that reason is in the trash)
@@rogerwilco2 Most people will fill at least one basin partway with water, usually soapy water, which is gonna be at least two gallons even if you're being conservative on a small sink. That means you have two minutes of running the water to rinse the dishes, assuming you don't pre-rinse or have any need to top off the basin, before you're using as much water as the dishwasher. There's definitely a tipping point for loading in too few dishes for the dishwasher to be worth it but most people understand that a single plate would be a waste.
1. To fully compare efficiency, also compare the amount of labor involved. The main reason why people buy dishwashers is to reduce the time spent on a repetitive & boring chore. I wanted to write "You had me at time-saving" but it wasn't mentioned. 2. It would help some of us if you also compare older dishwashers, not just "modern." I think mine is 50 years old. It doesn't heat the water, and the hot water supply in the building is set at about 125ºF. Perhaps MinuteFood should do a video about whether to replace an old dishwasher (that isn't broken).
In your case, the water isn't hot enough, so it won't be very effective. If it has the heating element and it's broken, fix it, if it doesn't have, a tabletop dishwasher or getting an electric hot faucet and use that water instead are options. Or buy a new dishwasher and sell yours for someone with very hot hot water.
125F, is about 52C, UK dishwashers run between 51 & 60C, so 52C should be do able, maybe not ideal but useable. Worth checking that the water is running hot before running the dishwasher, ie if the hot feed is next to your hot tap (faucet), run that 'til it's running hot, then start you dishwasher.
If your dishwasher is 50 years old (although I doubt that, as the chances of it not needing replacing due to breaking or whatever are very slim) then I would highly recommend replacing it. Technology has improved, safety standards have improved, a newer dishwasher will clean dishes much better, and will likely use much less water and energy due to more modern energy and water saving methods.
>NaThingSerious : On the other hand, a rule of thumb is to not replace large appliances that still work. Besides the obvious time & money costs to research, buy & install a new unit and to dispose of the old unit, manufacturing processes consume resources and generate pollution. Also, newer appliances tend to break down more quickly because they're not built to last.
@@brothermine2292 I tend to agree, if it does what you need/want, probably no need to change. If its not doing what you want/need, can it be made to do that? If so at what cost? Having said that, if you look at older cars, for instance, newer cars tend to give much better comfort, safer drive, safer in accidents, these happen even if not your fault, cheaper to run. Sometimes it is worth considering an upgrade. Re new stuff being not built to last, I think it is worse I think it is often built not to last. Washing machines are very simple machines really.
If your landlord pays utilities, maybe you should do it! Don't if your home is owned or managed by a corporation, but if you're one of the few folks out there acquainted with a chill landlord, it could be good for both of ya'll
Things worth noting. It’s worth scraping solid foods off, but you don’t need to pre-rinse in the sink before going into dishwasher. ALSO, not all things SHOULD go in a dishwasher: certain plastics that deform in high heat, wood utensils that can be ruptured from the high heat, and vacuum sealed containers may not hold their vacuum. SO, THOSE items should be hand-washed just before you run the dishwasher to allow the water to warm up before running the dishwasher. ALSO, on a similar note, I LOVE that this video spoke out about the germ /water temperature while hand washing topic; “washing water with extremely hot water” to kill the germs is sooooo wrong - just use water warm enough that it feels comfortable for you hand - you will NEVER want to warm the water up enough to the point that the hotness kills germs, at that point you are scalding you are hand.
But there are times when stains are made out of substances that don't dissolve well in water where a brush is much better at removing it, and putting it in the dishwasher won't remove everything properly.
It's actually blowing my mind that some people have a dishwasher and never use it, and even more so that they are proud and happy of that fact! I suppose if they have a truly ancient slumlord model it makes sense, but other than that, what a wild thing.
I enjoy washing the dishes by hand. There’s a meditative quality to the experience. Invariably there are dishes that don’t do well in the dishwasher as well, wooden items and most non-butter knives don’t do well in the dishwasher. It’s also considerably faster to do them by hand allowing for the kitchen to be done in short order. I still use the dishwasher for the bulk of things, but rarely a day goes by that hand washing isn’t also done.
So if you were single, would you run the dishwasher for half a dozen dishes, or just let dirty dishes sit around for a week until the dishwasher was full? I hope you enjoy roaches.
Did you watch this video, and are frustrated because you live in a place without a dishwasher, or without a place to even install one? Look up a countertop dishwasher! I got a Faberware personally. It requires no installation, fits on my counter without issue, takes maybe 5 minutes to load, and saves me many hours every week. I used to have no choice but to hand-wash for 10 years, and I hated it. Getting a countertop dishwasher was a game-changer. It was literally one of the best purchases I've ever made.
(speaking for Europe) every dishwasher my family has ever had had a half-load button for when it got stinky and needed to be washed before fully loaded. That tips the efficiency even more towards dishwashers.
Please note that in the infographic that describes the cycles of the dishwasher, it's clear that _detergent pacs are useless in the prewash_. USE POWDER/GEL DETERGENT and put some in the prewash compartment!
@@doxielain2231 I mean, yeah, obviously. But more importantly I LISTENED to technology connections and started having way more success with my dishwasher:P
*if you need to for some people, living in some places, with some dishwashers, and some dirty dishes, prewash is unnecessary. for others, it's helpful. everyone should try it out, but you may not need it
There are small dishwashers available that you can place on your counter, they're also marketed for camping. I have some issues with my hands which made it very painful for me to do dishes so I had to buy one of those and it made my life so much better
I trust my dishwasher to disinfect the dishes, but it doesn't remove stuck-on cheese, among other things, no matter how neatly the dishes are placed, so I will keep pre-scrubbing until I get a better dishwasher.
Do you use pre wash detergent? Every dishwasher is designed to use two doses of detergent, for its two main cycles. The pre wash cycle water gets drained pretty quickly because its the first to go and its the cycle that deals with dishes that are the most dirty. If you dont put detergent in for that cycle, the cycle essentially just gets the dishes wet. Also check to make sure that the water coming from your kitchen sink is hot before turning on the dish washer. If it isnt, whenbyou turn it on the pre wash cycle will be washing with cold water. Do both of these things. Put in some detergent just at the bottom of the dishwasher, literally just throw some in there and then run the sink hot. This will make sure that the pre wash cycle is using hot soapy water instead of cold non-soapy water like its probably been doing. Once the prewash cycle water is drained, the main wash will only have to deal with somewhat dirty dishes and will have a lot more soap to wash them with.
To me the greatest advantage of finally getting a dishwasher was not the cleanliness or energy use, but how much TIME it saved me! That beats all other considerations. But I did notice the glasses looked even cleaner than when I hand washed them. I do still was casseroles by hand though, as the dishwasher would otherwise fill too quickly or I may need it the next day too. I takes me 6 days to fill a load.
I have to pre-rinse because my dishwasher is one of the smaller portable ones. it doesn't have a connection to the water line so it can't do its own pre rinse cycle
At the house where I have lived most of my life, none of the dishwashers we've had (we've had several of them) have been very good at cleaning dishes so we ALWAYS have to wash off every little spec of grime from the dishes before we load the dishwasher otherwise the dishes end up even dirtier once they get out of the dishwasher.
Because one offers convenience and the other doesn't. Is this really that hard of a question for you? Do you need to go back to grade school to learn basic rhetoric?
A lot of people misuse the dishwasher and attribute its failure to the machine and not their incorrect operation (not using pre-wash soap, not running the sink to remove cold water from the pipes before turning the dishwasher on, etc), a bunch of people also don't even try it, they hear from someone that it doesn't work so they don't even bother with it
@@coroner2141 what even are you trying to say? I'm going to assume you're implying dishwashers don't save time, which the video agrees with - the average dishwasher takes 2-4 hours to clean dishes. Until you realize that 'dishwasher time' is not 'your time', and you can do other stuff whilst the dishwasher chugs away.
I remember moving out to an apartment without a dishwasher for the first time after living my entire life with the convinience of one. And ooooh boy I would scrub everything so many times over because I could tell the difference and it made me paranoid. It's also such a chore to wash them yourself. I still struggle anything that has fat on the surface because not only does it make the dish greacy and a nightmare to wash it can also made the whole water bath greacy and makes everything so much harder to clean.
Being against pre-rinse cleaning is ridiculous. Waiting for food to dry can make it extremely difficult to get off, even in the dishwasher. It also helps your dishwasher go longer between deep cleanings as it gets gunked up less quickly.
My 2 issues with dishwashers is that dishwashers can damage many kinds of kitchen wares like most plastic and glass not to mention cast iron. Second i find they don't remove food residue well so i tend to use about a gallon of water and some soap to remove the bulk of the crud on my dishes and hand clean what the dishwasher will damage then let the machine final clean rinse and sanitize the rest. This whole line of argument seems to ignore the damage and conflate sanitization with cleaning and vice versa a great example would be get 2 white ceramic cups or plates fill them with tea and let the tea evaporate then run one through the dishwasher and wipe the other with a wet soapy cloth both will remove some of the residue but the hand wash will get far more. Also the video is on point about sponges and drying mats are disgusting and if you don't hang them after each use and was qnd swap them regularly drying ot cleaning cloths can get nasty fast.
Unfortunately people don't like this option and I understand why, but I designate a counter for dirty dishes and the dishes that sit inside my dishwasher are clean. Dishes sitting on a counter get dry really quickly, which means they dont smell or attract insects. I live alone and go weeks in between cycles with no problems. Another option is to buy a dishwasher with an air purifying system, such as the beko ionguard system, but I dont depend on it for dirty plates
It might still be more water effective to run the dishwasher more often, like when it's 1/3 to 1/2 full, than to pre rinse each dish and only running at full capacity
The only thing that i haven't seen people actually compare - washing dishes with cold/cool water vs dishwasher. I tend to simply use cold water for hand washing so there, i am definitely saving the electricity but wasting a lot of water. However, the overall cost would be lower in hand washing in thaf case since water is cheaper than electricity.
Me: "Umm... these utensils are encrusted with dried-up bits of food, and all the glassware looks like a foggy day in London..." The Dishwasher: "It's all perfectly sterile, I promise!" Me: "That is not the issue!" Hyperbole aside, I really don't care if there's some trace amounts of bacteria left on my hand-washed dishes. My immune-system needs the workout - an overly sterile life is how you wind up developing a ton of autoimmune conditions. The trouble just is that, if you live alone, you either run a dishwasher that's 5% full - which, even according to the rather optimistic numbers presented in this video, isn't very efficient - or you let stuff sit in the dishwasher for *days,* accumulating until it's sorta-kinda-full at least... at which point the gunk covering them will have dried up and become basically impossible for the machine to clean properly. So the results are either disgusting, or disgustingly wasteful.
"become basically impossible for the machine to clean properly" A classic example of underestimating your dishwasher, as most people do. The dishwasher will clean almost anything, even encrusted gunk on a pan that hasn't been washed for 3 days after using it. I didn't really believe this at first either, but then I just ran my dirty plates that had been sitting in the sink for 4 days with encrusted food scraps all over them through the dishwasher as a test, and they came out completely spotless and perfectly clean, even the most encrusted scraps were completely removed. The only thing you have to be aware of is if you have a filter, and also if things are extremely oily, as oil can clog either the drain, or the water drainage pipe further downstream. For large amounts of oily residue, just use a paper towel to wipe the majority of it off, and you can put it into the machine just fine. As for quantity of dishes, if you live alone, just learn to cook for yourself. You will be able to fill up a dishwasher more than enough to make it reasonably full after 2 days, and those two days that plates are sitting anywhere are not a problem for any dishwasher. Even then, modern dishwashers have different programs, shorter programs, half wash programs, and all kinds of options, so if you have a very small amount of dishes that you want done now, you can just run it on an alternate program and it will wash more efficiently than you would yourself. Ooh and the glassware issue you have is because of hard water. You need to add water softener to the dishwasher, which completely eliminates this problem. Modern dishwashers have a special compartment for exactly this purpose, to add water softener and keep your glassware crystal clear. These issues you are having are simply because you do not know how to use a dishwasher, which is very common.
@@luka188 So... in order to avoid the minor inconvenience of hand-washing my dishes, I just need to... spend a ton more time and effort on more large-scale cooking-projects, on a daily basis, in order to generate enough pots, pans, plates and utensils to fill the dishwasher in a reasonable times? Duly noted.
The idea that some people have dishwashers but refuse to use them is mind blowing. I HATE washing dishes by hand. I would gladly put one in my apartment if I could.
Just wash the dishes right after you use them and you get most of these benefits. It's the absolute best habit I've developed. Unless you eat from 10 plates at a time, it takes about 5 seconds to wash almost any dish if you don't let the food dry on it
It only makes no sense to not use a dishwasher if you have enough dishes that need cleaning. Not only do I live alone, I use a pretty small set of dishes daily: two plastic bowls, a multicooker bowl/pan, a tablespoon, a teaspoon, a fork, a mug, and a knife. Plastic dishes and knives are recommended against being put in a dishwasher, the former can deform because of the heat, and the latter can get dull; the multicooker pan will probably not even fit in one, and I'm sure it's not allowed to go in it either. I have literally zero reason to buy a dishwasher for two spoons, a fork, and a mug.
@@Lernos1 Well in that case: 1. Buy a real set of dishes and fill up dishwasher once every couple days. 2. Knives don't go dull in dishwasher - this warning is either from knives having untreated wooden handles that get damaged by water or weird japanese knives made of iron/carbon steel that rust easily. There is literally nothing else contacting knife than hot water solution with detergent soluable dirt. Or buy a mini dishwasher - they're still more cost effective than handwashing.
@@michahalczuk9071 Why would I buy a set I'm not going to use? I've been at it for 7 years. Sounds like inventing new problems to me. Second, are you sure a dishwasher is still more cost effective than less than 4 minutes of water running (I don't leave my tap open all the time duh), especially considering that hot water doesn't use electricity on its own (piped directly in), unlike a dishwasher, and electricity is more costly than hot water where I live?
@@Lernos1 4 minutes of running hot water is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than any dishwasher would use. Even including the detergent and running power, it's still going to be much more cost effective unless you count your time as genuinely worthless.
Something worth mentioning, bacteria doesn't mean bad or dirty. Biodiversity is very important (for many things including your gut health). And ingesting soap is very bad so make sure to rinse your dishes properly if you hand wash
Here's how I use a dishwasher: I still wash dishes, but I do it to remove all the grime, and loosenthe stuff that stuck on, ETC. The dishwasher for me is there to pick up the slack wherever I might've failed, sterilizing the dishes and getting any particles I missed during the handwash. It saves me time knowing I don't have to be meticulous in washing every dish, and guilt-free knowing there won't be a speck of food left.
HERE is how I hand-wash dishes: I use a sponge with a nylon wrap thing around it to make it semi-abrasive. I DO NOT load the sink with water. I pre-rinse dishes then load the sponge with the new Palmolive With Oxiclean and about 25% ammonia. That combination cuts grease like a hot knife through butter. I stack up the soapy dishes on the sink, then rinse them with HOT as I can stand water. This works fantastically and I bet if they were examined they would be very close to germ-free. Two things that you said apply here: It ISN'T energy efficient and it takes time. The issue is, I don't have room for a dishwasher in my kitchen. 😨
I bet that you would still find that your dishes aren’t as clean as a dishwasher but probably far cleaner than the average hand wash. However, given that you don’t have room for a dishwasher, I’d say you’re doing the best possible cleaning you can.
Measuring cleanliness with the amount of bacteria feels weird to me. I think how much food is stuck on the plate or how much oil is left on the plate are better measures because bacteria can grow from these leftovers.
They have to measure it that way, because most of the time oils/leftover food gets removed by either a dishwasher or by a human completely, since you can see it. You can't see bacteria, which is probably why it's still there after humans wash dishes. A dishwasher doesn't need to see the dirt, because it's washing the dish x times no matter how dirty it looks, which is probably why there is almost no bacteria after a full washing cycle.
I would _love_ to be able to do less handwashing! But my MiL's kitchen is _full_ of things that can't go in the dishwasher. Anything that comes with a nonstick coating, she chooses that in preference to anything sensible; cheap plastics that will melt; aluminums that will lose their finish; heirloom china where the pattern will wash off; pots and serving dishes that just plain won't fit... Plus, even in the new modern dishwasher, many of the heat-safe plastics cling to fats and _still_ come out with a soapy residue clinging to that.
I'm Asian (and not living in a Western country) and we don't do dishwashers. Also I cook and most expensive things can NOT go in a dishwasher. Glasses, knives, wooden stuff, fancy delicate china and custom crockery and teaware, you name it. I'd use one in a heartbeat if I were a cheap restaurant dealing with generic white porcelain plates but that does not describe my household.
@@jiahaotan696 Thats actually a common myth in non-Western countries, dishwashers can handle all those things. Glasses, knives, wooden stuff, even fancy delicate china and teaware. Dishwashers have different settings, much like laundry machines do, and you can choose the setting you want. Do you want it scrubbed hard? Sure. Do you want it delicate? Also fine. Do you want to do it with cold water? Its just a button away.
Man i hate doing the dishes by hand so much. Don’t mind most chores around the house except doing the dishes. Cant wait to have a dishwasher someday. This video only strengthens my belief that doing the dishes by hand is so pointless.
I love to see that your merch partnership is with DFTBA! The rest of the video is, of course, also great, but I'm always thrilled to see more popularity go towards the endeavors of the Green brothers.
At the cabin where we have to haul in the water, you'd be surprised at how little is needed if you do it with low water usage in mind. Sure the water is not super hot but then the rinse is done with water that was boiled at way hotter then 65. Done with no extra energy half of the year as your heating the cabin anyway.
I’ve used my dishwasher before. I didn’t like it much and it’s a tradition between family and I to hand wash together. We always make sure to use the kettle to get boiling water and sanitize our sponges. I like the idea of a dishwasher just not the using it.
I wished I could have a dishwasher but alas, I'm in a dorm room. But that made me realize that yeah, the dorm's faucet water is not hot enough. I'll think of using my kettle more often to wash my dishes in sterilizing water. :)
I think the problem with this video at its core with how it was approached is that if someone bought a new dishwasher for their house or are living somewhere with a new dishwasher, odds are they value it and will use it. A lot of people have dishwashers that are over ten years old and don't know how much to trust them. Ultimately, many of these points still hold true for older dishwashers, but also due to breakdown over time there might be elements where they fail. Everyone *should experiment* with their dishwasher, mainly looking for gunk left behind since pressure, not temperature which kills bacteria, will likely be the failure point. My current dishwasher I do not trust to get the gunk off of dishes so I make sure to soak and scrape them beforehand. Dishwashers are a great final step to ensure bacteria is gone for all dishes, but dishes may require prep. It's just important to find the best way to save water while still doing what you need.
I remember I watched some documentary/educational video when I was younger (not RUclips) that encouraged hand washing dishes over using the dishwasher to be more environmentally friendly. This stuck with me for the last n years but with the recent surge in high-quality dishwasher PSAs on RUclips I have finally shed the burden of lies I have carried since childhood.
wait i didn't know people were washing dishes under a constantly running tap. I've just been soaking and washing them all together in one basin of water, then rinsing afterwards. probably still not super water efficient but I had no idea there was a whole other method that's apparently this common??
Why do some dishes (especially plastics) have residual detergent fragrance after going through the dishwasher? Are there detergent/rinse aid residues on dishes?
Sometimes. It really depends on which soaps you're using, how hot the water is, among other issues. If you have residue, consider switching soap to either a different brand, or a less concentrated formula for a little while and see what happens. As for the rinse aids, it SHOULDN'T leave residue, so if you're concerned that's what's causing it, I'd save testing the removal of that for last. Two other tips! Make sure that the water in your dish washer is actually hot. Cold water circulating is less likely to get gunk off than hot water. Secondly, make sure you're not overloading your washer, or stacking dishes strangely. If some plates/bowls are overlapping, and water can't rinse that particular dish, then the residue is gonna stay there.
Putting plastic in dishwashers isn't recommended. There was a big study on plastic water bottles in The Netherlands and it showed after 15 washes in a dishwasher it started to drop micro plastic. Which can't be healthy for you. Because they get to hot. Besides that, non plastic silverware is usually more robust which leads in less waste.
I don't use a dishwasher but it's purely for psychological reasons. Loading and unloading the dishwasher aren't particularly difficult tasks, but it's time spent all at once. When I hand wash, I can wash a couple dishes and maybe a pan immediately after using them. I may be putting in more work in the long run, but it means I don't put it off and end up with a backlog. When we had a dishwasher, we ironically ended up with more dishes sitting in the sink. The place handwashing really falls apart though is when you have a big cooking project and suddenly have a ton of dishes to do all by hand. I'm not entirely convinced by the amount of water used by handwashing. I grew up in a drought and was conditioned into using the minimum amount of water. I'm going to measure it tonight and see.
@@KrisOsterhout Just scrape off any big chunks. The water in the basin will eventually get quite dirty so you'd need to change it if you're doing a lot of dishes. So no rinsing involved.
@@Jonas-Seiler I think it is; filling the washing basin is like 10 liters maybe if you have many dishes, that's the same as running my (relatively slow) tap for just two minutes
So basically if you don't have a lot of dishes to do, it's still better to do them by hand. I am glad this video addresses that. Most nights, my wife and I are only generating 2 bowls/plates and 2 forks worth of dishes, which I can definitely knock out with less than 4 minutes' worth of water.
When i wash dishes by hand, i dump as many as i can in a tub filled with hot water, and let them sit for 1 minute, to then skrub em. Wouldent this way save more water, than continuously having the tab on?
You still need to rinse If you reuse the water to rinse, then you're compromising in safety. Even if you do use less water, it's probably not saving you a whole lot of money For my rates, 1000 gallons = $4.40 Or 1 gallon = $.0044 Not a lot of savings
@@hector-m-carrillo *DO* you still need to rinse? The only items I rinse are glasses, to avoid soap spots. Anything else goes on the drying rack for some number of minutes before being hand dried. By then most of the water has dripped or evaporated off. I see no evidence of anyone getting ill from the small amounts of bacteria on dishes, cutlery and crockery.
@@AthAthanasius soap is primarily a surfactant, meaning it works by wrapping dirt/bacteria/oil in bubbles. This is important because a lot of things like to stick onto surfaces. Soap does have antimicrobial properties - as in actively killing - but it primarily works through those bubbles. medicine-yale-edu/news-article/why-soap-works/ Without rinsing, you are just letting everything that was trapped inside the bubbles free; which accomplishes very little. They could have gone down the drain instead. This is then followed by you using a drying rag to clean the soap off, meaning your dish cloths are gathering bacteria significantly more quickly than the average. We don't have a lot of data on how many people get sick from this because it's very hard to find out *where* someone got sick from. But let's just assume the number of people who have gotten sick is >0. Given that dishwashers are overwhelminglf more likely to be cleaner and cheaper, why would you risk those >0 persons with the worse alternative.
soap is primarily a surfactant, meaning it works by wrapping dirt/bacteria/oil in bubbles. This is important because a lot of things like to stick onto surfaces. Soap does have antimicrobial properties - as in actively killing - but it primarily works through those bubbles. Google why soap works and go to the Yale link Without rinsing, you are just letting everything that was trapped inside the bubbles free, which accomplishes very little; they could have gone down the drain instead. This is then followed by you using a drying rag to clean the soap off, meaning your dish cloths are gathering bacteria significantly more quickly than the average. We don't have a lot of data on how many people get sick from this because it's very hard to find out *where* someone got sick from. But let's just assume the number of people who have gotten sick is >0. Given that dishwashers are overwhelmingly more likely to be cleaner and cheaper, why would you risk those >0 persons with the worse alternative.
Those studies should really control for people who are insanely wasteful when hand washing dishes, I have a cousin that would wash and rinse the silverware one at a time with the water running the whole time.
My only problem with dishwashers is their inability to remove caked on food. I'd love to just throw all the dishes in and call it good, but my family isn't very good at rinsing after meals or soaking, and putting dishes with significant amounts of food on them into the dishwasher SIGNIFICANTLY diminishes the effectiveness of the washer and the cleanliness of the dishes, not to mention that the trap on ours doesn't come out the way your expect, so you have to dig stuff out before removing and cleaning it so it doesn't stay in the bottom. As a result of all of this, i almost have to wash the dishes before putting them in the dish washer to be sanitized....
This might mean your dishwasher is old. The heat and pressure of the water should get off even pretty nasty food residue. If it's not working though, a few ideas. 1) Make sure the water is hot before starting the cycle; the hotter the initial water is, the hotter it'll be throughout the cycle, and hotter water = better cleaning. 2) Make sure you're using good soap. If your dishes are really crusty, you'll need more heavy duty soap. 3) Just make it a rule in your house to rinse off plates. Asking your family to make that a habit shouldn't be hard.
At my old place, which I was at for 3 years, I didn't use my dishwasher. I was always disgusted with the dishes when they came out and ended up hand washing them anyway. I just moved into a place with new appliances and am having to relearn how to use a dishwasher because I'm so used to just cleaning my dishes after every meal.
Run the tap until it's hot before running the dishwasher! The dishwasher is connected to the hot water supply so if you actually supply it hot water and not water that's been sitting and chilling in pipes, you can actually get good cleaning out of it
That is very interesting. I live in Brazil and we don't really use dishwashers that much. My dad owns a fairly modern one and he barely uses it in his household. Only when they have like A TON OF DISHES, like when they had ppl over, etc. Def not on day to day and I guess I kinda soaked that in. I never even considered a dishwasher.
The one thing I always miss in these types of videos is comparisons to washing in the sink itself, using a plug in the sink. As far as I know this is the most common way of hand washing in Europe, or at least in The Netherlands. I can do the dishes for the day, based on a 2-person load of dishes, using just about 5L of water, or at most 10L if I have to re-fill the sink after the water becomes dirtier. Comparing that to 15 liters for a dishwasher makes it look a lot better than the typical strawman argument of comparing it to handwashing dishes under the running tap. I'd love to see some stats on how much water the typical handwash in a sink uses, and how big of an effect that has on how clean the dishes come out (I imagine running the tap for the entire time will probably result in cleaner dishes, tbh).
i remember having to refill the sink whenever it would get too dirty and having to stick my hand in the filthy water to remove the plug and a standard energy certified dishwasher uses 11 litres of water i don't miss handwashing that's for sure
I too am European. Trust me, most people I met do run the tap all the time. Those who don't or try to save water have poor wash results: soapy glasses, oily pans, film on plates. It might work in some countries where people do not eat a lot of starchy or cooked foods, but it definitely doesn't work here in Italy. My dishwasher, on the other hand, has always given me great results
i didn’t realize how much water i was using hand-washing dishes till our pipes froze back in january and i was standing there trying to fill the sink with water from jugs. a gallon is a shockingly small amount of water when you have a sink full of dirty dishes, and i’m impressed that the machines can efficiently use that amount to clean a whole load. the heat must really make a difference, and that thought has me wondering if it might be worth boiling my dishes after each wash or soaking them with bleach to make up for the lack of sanitation power in the handwashing process.
Missed a point: I need to replace my dishwasher about every 5-6 years even though I follow all the manufacturer's care instructions. They're just made to not last. That wipes out all the eco-friendliness. I still use the dishwasher because I appreciate the clean dishes and not spending time with my hands in soapy water but the planned obsolesce makes them NOT eco-friendly.
How does it just wipe the eco-friendliness? The extra energy to heat hand-washing water over just a year should be way more than it takes to get raw materials and produce a single dish washer at scale
@@davidawakim5473 So if everyone has to buy a new dishwasher, say once every 5-8 years, then you have all the raw materials it takes to make those dishwashers, all the employees driving back and forth to work, all the energy used by the factory, all the waste generated by the factory (which is a huge amount) and then the old dishwashers go to the landfill. If dishwashers didn't have built in obsolesce and could be used as long as customers wanted then they wouldn't be an eco disaster.
It's my opinion that everyone deserves the option to have a dishwasher, even if they don't use it YET. Besides just the fact that they're better at washing dishes, there's the fact that you never know when an injury or long-term disability will make it much harder to spend long spans of time at the sink washing dishes. It takes me about 12-ish minutes to get through about a dozen pieces- bowls, cups, etc.- and perhaps a dozen pieces of flatware, and those 12 minutes are extremely hard on my back. I miss having a dishwasher so dang much.
My family's problem with dish washers is that it can't wash pots and pans for you, so if we have to wash the pots, we might as well just wash the rest of the stuff
Hand washing doesn't require a whole gallon per minute. I use like 1/4 cup water with a spritz of soap to scrub a bowl, then maybe 2 cups water to rinse it off. Doesn't even need hot water if you wash dishes immediately after using them, or at least giving them some time to soak.
Then remember that your dishwasher uses less than 1/2 of a cup to completely wash and rinse that same bowl. You, as is the norm for many people, have absolutely no clue how water efficient a dishwasher really is compared to doing anything by hand. With 2 cups and a quarter, your dishwasher washes 3 plates and 2 bowls completely spotless.
This is for the most part what I had expected, but one thing, we don't let our tap run while we wash, we fill our sink ( which is probably like 6l max ) and then wash our dishes in that
I mean, it's basically no contest. Handwashing clothing is just extremely inefficient. You'd be harder pressed to actually find someone who DOES handwash clothes anymore, with the exception of things like underwear/intimates. Your washer will always do a better and faster job.
It completely baffles me that there are people who own a dishwasher but refuse to use it. Washing dishes by hand is such a hassle, it's labor intensive, takes forever and just outright sucks. Who on earth would do that voluntarily? I also just don't get the people who say doing the dishes is calming or helps them decompress. I'm lazy and impatient, doing the dishes might be one of my most hated tasks, I absolutely despised every second of it back when I had no dishwasher.
I would really like to have a dishwasher, unfortunately in my last three apartments, including the one I live in now, there is no room for them at all. Saving time, water and the skin of my hands and nails would be so worth it. I was considering a mini dishwasher, but it doesn't suit me at all and it takes up too much space on the countertop, which is already very small 😭
What about the energy calculus for those that live around the equator that doesn't use hot water to clean our dishes? Also what about the energy/carbon footprint of production, distribution maintenance as well as proper disposal after the useful life of the appliance?
We have a dishwasher but it's super old and doesn't work very well. The dishes come out still dirty so I have to hand wash everything. I would love to move into a different apartment with newer appliances
I had never used a dishwasher until i was 25 and let me tell you i was blown away by how easy and effective it was. Even though i live on my own i use that dishwasher nearly everyday bc hand washing is one of the greatest displeasures of life
when i moved to my brand new apartment having a dishwasher was a huge boon i hated washing by hand when i still lived with my parents sticking you hand in the disgusting water was the worst feeling i run the washer every few days whenever im out of clean glasses or plates filling it with dishwasher salt and using diswasher cleaner are essential to keep it functional salt for avoiding limescale buildup and dishwasher cleaner every 30 days to avoid smells and it also cleans the inside of the machine
I love our dishwasher, but we are 3 people. When it's only 2, there just aren't enough dirty dishes at the end of the day to justify a wash, mostly because the harder to clean things like big pans and pots don't actually fit and others shouldn't be put in there, so at that point we just hand wash.
Idk if my hybrid method is relevant here, but i just use a hot wet sponge/brillo to scrub the stuff that i don't trust the washer to knock off then put the dishes in the washer. I trust that way more than by hand or washer alone. 😊
Alot of people dislike the dishwasher because sometimes some stubbon food gunk gets stuck even after the dishwash, just remove it with a brush and rinse, its sterile cause of the heated water anyway
In my humble opinion you forgot to mention one crucial fact. Most of those germs left on the dishes after hand washing aren't EXTREMELY dangerous for human health. In other words - there is no need to have sterile dishes before each meal.
Wait how can the average person use 100L to handwash dishes if a regular sink holds about 10L? Do they just leave the tap running the entire time? Who even does that?
I bought a house about 6 months ago, and didn't realize it did not have a dishwasher. I absolutely hate how much water I am wasting with hand washing, getting a dishwasher installed is my first major improvement planned
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I disagree with the energy use you don’t necessarily have to use hot water. And the costs differ if water is heated with gas. To gloss it over that proves your conclusion to be moot. Hand washing for us is a big cost saver on energy
After Technology Connections video and this, I now know how to actually use my dishwasher
Right? It feels like there are so many tools in our day-to-day life that we've taken for granted for decades upon decades in a way that modernity just *assumes* we know how to optimally use them... but we don't!
I did it after the old TC video
Just got through watching a few hours of dishwasher content there
LOVE tech connections! i really appreciate these scientists teaching me how to live most effectively
Indeed Alec's obsession is the next level
The time and effort savings alone makes it worth it. I've had people argue with me that they can finish washing the dishes by hand faster than my dishwasher's 2 hour cycle. I counter by telling them that I only spend time loading and unloading the dishwasher. The dishwasher's working time isn't using my own time. I am free to do other things while it works.
Exactly. The time the dishwasher takes (compared to doing it by hand) is only relevant if you need clean dishes right this minute.
This is especially true for modern dishwashers that open the door on their own. You don’t even need to take time to open it to let them dry!
Same is true for EV charging...
@@markotriesteThat doesn't bring much comfort a few hundred miles into a long road trip.
@@MNbenMN I will say, having a "natural mandatory break" on the kind of "medium length trip" where you need to charge _once_ and can plan for it can be kinda nice. Get a gas station coffe and chill out
But that's of course driving where there's infrastructure for it, and not going along a vast desert highway or what have you (I'm from Sweden, we don't have a lot of those)
Though that's where the _actual_ superior mode of transportation would be a nice option: TRAINS
I washed dishes by hand throughout college (no dishwasher available). When I moved into a place with a dishwasher, I used it avidly, but always wondered if I was wasting water because I didn't own enough dishes to fill a full load. It's good to know for certain that I have not been wasting water as I absolutely would be hand washing for more than 4 minutes.
But you don't need to run the water for the time you are doing the dishes?
How do people wash dishes by hand that makes them use so much water?
@@rogerwilco2 yeah that kinda confused me too. We have both a dishwasher and we hand wash just because we have a ton of dishes and we always just fill up the sink like 1/3 of the way and wash everything in there. I also noticed in the video that they werent doing that and just let the water go down the drain which really just confused me
@@rogerwilco2I’m quite convinced that the participants of any dishwasher vs handwasher comparison are running the water the whole time they handwash and thus favoring the dishwasher. I see the same thing happening when people wash their hands, and I wonder who taught them that. But then I see water constantly being ran like that in movie and tv shows…
@@hynnow18for letting water run when you wash your hand (especially in public space), there are reasons (if they don't close the sink using paper towel that reason is in the trash)
@@rogerwilco2 Most people will fill at least one basin partway with water, usually soapy water, which is gonna be at least two gallons even if you're being conservative on a small sink. That means you have two minutes of running the water to rinse the dishes, assuming you don't pre-rinse or have any need to top off the basin, before you're using as much water as the dishwasher. There's definitely a tipping point for loading in too few dishes for the dishwasher to be worth it but most people understand that a single plate would be a waste.
1. To fully compare efficiency, also compare the amount of labor involved. The main reason why people buy dishwashers is to reduce the time spent on a repetitive & boring chore. I wanted to write "You had me at time-saving" but it wasn't mentioned.
2. It would help some of us if you also compare older dishwashers, not just "modern." I think mine is 50 years old. It doesn't heat the water, and the hot water supply in the building is set at about 125ºF. Perhaps MinuteFood should do a video about whether to replace an old dishwasher (that isn't broken).
In your case, the water isn't hot enough, so it won't be very effective. If it has the heating element and it's broken, fix it, if it doesn't have, a tabletop dishwasher or getting an electric hot faucet and use that water instead are options. Or buy a new dishwasher and sell yours for someone with very hot hot water.
125F, is about 52C, UK dishwashers run between 51 & 60C, so 52C should be do able, maybe not ideal but useable.
Worth checking that the water is running hot before running the dishwasher, ie if the hot feed is next to your hot tap (faucet), run that 'til it's running hot, then start you dishwasher.
If your dishwasher is 50 years old (although I doubt that, as the chances of it not needing replacing due to breaking or whatever are very slim) then I would highly recommend replacing it. Technology has improved, safety standards have improved, a newer dishwasher will clean dishes much better, and will likely use much less water and energy due to more modern energy and water saving methods.
>NaThingSerious : On the other hand, a rule of thumb is to not replace large appliances that still work. Besides the obvious time & money costs to research, buy & install a new unit and to dispose of the old unit, manufacturing processes consume resources and generate pollution. Also, newer appliances tend to break down more quickly because they're not built to last.
@@brothermine2292 I tend to agree, if it does what you need/want, probably no need to change.
If its not doing what you want/need, can it be made to do that?
If so at what cost?
Having said that, if you look at older cars, for instance, newer cars tend to give much better comfort, safer drive, safer in accidents, these happen even if not your fault, cheaper to run. Sometimes it is worth considering an upgrade.
Re new stuff being not built to last, I think it is worse I think it is often built not to last.
Washing machines are very simple machines really.
I know she said it's okay not to own a dishwasher, but now I feel bad 😂 I feel like sending this to my landlord
If your landlord pays utilities, maybe you should do it! Don't if your home is owned or managed by a corporation, but if you're one of the few folks out there acquainted with a chill landlord, it could be good for both of ya'll
There are also those countertop dishwashers that don't require much for setting up though they can't fit many dishes as a traditional one.
Things worth noting. It’s worth scraping solid foods off, but you don’t need to pre-rinse in the sink before going into dishwasher. ALSO, not all things SHOULD go in a dishwasher: certain plastics that deform in high heat, wood utensils that can be ruptured from the high heat, and vacuum sealed containers may not hold their vacuum. SO, THOSE items should be hand-washed just before you run the dishwasher to allow the water to warm up before running the dishwasher.
ALSO, on a similar note, I LOVE that this video spoke out about the germ /water temperature while hand washing topic; “washing water with extremely hot water” to kill the germs is sooooo wrong - just use water warm enough that it feels comfortable for you hand - you will NEVER want to warm the water up enough to the point that the hotness kills germs, at that point you are scalding you are hand.
This really irritates me! People have told me before that water isn't hot enough, and every time I'm just thinking "do you WANT me to burn myself?"
Meanwhile I'm here shocked that people have hot waters in their taps. Where I live taps are almost always cold water only
One added benefit is that the dishwasher CAN get up to not just your taps max temp, but even heat it up further to even indeed reach sanitizing temps
@@cherriberri8373 oh absolutely, partly what I was trying to get at.
@@derp4581 That's an infrastructure issue, nobody wants the expense of retrofitting pipes for the hot water.
But there are times when stains are made out of substances that don't dissolve well in water where a brush is much better at removing it, and putting it in the dishwasher won't remove everything properly.
It's actually blowing my mind that some people have a dishwasher and never use it, and even more so that they are proud and happy of that fact! I suppose if they have a truly ancient slumlord model it makes sense, but other than that, what a wild thing.
Yeah, it's very silly and spoiled. I went from a house with a dishwasher to one without, and it was awful.
Some people like the peace of mind that hand washing brings. That said, there’s no right answer either way. To each their own.
I enjoy washing the dishes by hand. There’s a meditative quality to the experience. Invariably there are dishes that don’t do well in the dishwasher as well, wooden items and most non-butter knives don’t do well in the dishwasher. It’s also considerably faster to do them by hand allowing for the kitchen to be done in short order. I still use the dishwasher for the bulk of things, but rarely a day goes by that hand washing isn’t also done.
So if you were single, would you run the dishwasher for half a dozen dishes, or just let dirty dishes sit around for a week until the dishwasher was full? I hope you enjoy roaches.
@azraphon what peace of mind? What peace is there to be gained?
Did you watch this video, and are frustrated because you live in a place without a dishwasher, or without a place to even install one? Look up a countertop dishwasher! I got a Faberware personally. It requires no installation, fits on my counter without issue, takes maybe 5 minutes to load, and saves me many hours every week. I used to have no choice but to hand-wash for 10 years, and I hated it. Getting a countertop dishwasher was a game-changer. It was literally one of the best purchases I've ever made.
I would love one if I had the counter space for it
Same I can only recommend it it's the highlight of my kitchen 😂😂
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Do you have space for a roll-away dishwasher?
Dozens of hours per week seems like a sliiiight overexaggeration
(speaking for Europe) every dishwasher my family has ever had had a half-load button for when it got stinky and needed to be washed before fully loaded. That tips the efficiency even more towards dishwashers.
Please note that in the infographic that describes the cycles of the dishwasher, it's clear that _detergent pacs are useless in the prewash_. USE POWDER/GEL DETERGENT and put some in the prewash compartment!
Someone watches Technology Connections
@@doxielain2231 I mean, yeah, obviously. But more importantly I LISTENED to technology connections and started having way more success with my dishwasher:P
Many modern dish washers don’t have a pre wash compartment. But you can just throw a bit of powder wherever in the bottom of the dishwasher.
*if you need to
for some people, living in some places, with some dishwashers, and some dirty dishes, prewash is unnecessary. for others, it's helpful. everyone should try it out, but you may not need it
Just use powder for everything. The tablets are just worse in every way, just look pretty.
1:42 use powdered detergent, that way you can also have detergent during the pre wash making your dish washer even more effective!
as a non-dishwasher owner (and a very dishwasher wisher, but never living an apartment that has one) this is painful to watch.
Right ...most people don't have a dishwasher. What are we supposed to do lol. We good tho because otherwise we would have been ill already.
There are small dishwashers available that you can place on your counter, they're also marketed for camping. I have some issues with my hands which made it very painful for me to do dishes so I had to buy one of those and it made my life so much better
This helps my audhd tremendously. I am now armed with the information needed to proceed with using the dishwasher in most cases
Is that slang for autism and adhd
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I trust my dishwasher to disinfect the dishes, but it doesn't remove stuck-on cheese, among other things, no matter how neatly the dishes are placed, so I will keep pre-scrubbing until I get a better dishwasher.
Does pre-soaking work? (Easier than scrubbing.)
Do you use pre wash detergent? Every dishwasher is designed to use two doses of detergent, for its two main cycles. The pre wash cycle water gets drained pretty quickly because its the first to go and its the cycle that deals with dishes that are the most dirty. If you dont put detergent in for that cycle, the cycle essentially just gets the dishes wet. Also check to make sure that the water coming from your kitchen sink is hot before turning on the dish washer. If it isnt, whenbyou turn it on the pre wash cycle will be washing with cold water.
Do both of these things. Put in some detergent just at the bottom of the dishwasher, literally just throw some in there and then run the sink hot. This will make sure that the pre wash cycle is using hot soapy water instead of cold non-soapy water like its probably been doing. Once the prewash cycle water is drained, the main wash will only have to deal with somewhat dirty dishes and will have a lot more soap to wash them with.
1:13 ooh, i love the ripples animation showing where to click the link for the previous video! It's like a UI/UX for a video game design!
To me the greatest advantage of finally getting a dishwasher was not the cleanliness or energy use, but how much TIME it saved me! That beats all other considerations. But I did notice the glasses looked even cleaner than when I hand washed them. I do still was casseroles by hand though, as the dishwasher would otherwise fill too quickly or I may need it the next day too. I takes me 6 days to fill a load.
I have to pre-rinse because my dishwasher is one of the smaller portable ones. it doesn't have a connection to the water line so it can't do its own pre rinse cycle
At the house where I have lived most of my life, none of the dishwashers we've had (we've had several of them) have been very good at cleaning dishes so we ALWAYS have to wash off every little spec of grime from the dishes before we load the dishwasher otherwise the dishes end up even dirtier once they get out of the dishwasher.
I find it odd that people purposefully don’t use their dishwasher but happily use their clothes-washing machine.
Because one offers convenience and the other doesn't. Is this really that hard of a question for you? Do you need to go back to grade school to learn basic rhetoric?
@@coroner2141 Maybe you should go back to school if you can't even see how both offer convenience, maybe also learn some manners while you are at it
Most countries don’t really use dryers
A lot of people misuse the dishwasher and attribute its failure to the machine and not their incorrect operation (not using pre-wash soap, not running the sink to remove cold water from the pipes before turning the dishwasher on, etc), a bunch of people also don't even try it, they hear from someone that it doesn't work so they don't even bother with it
@@coroner2141 what even are you trying to say? I'm going to assume you're implying dishwashers don't save time, which the video agrees with - the average dishwasher takes 2-4 hours to clean dishes. Until you realize that 'dishwasher time' is not 'your time', and you can do other stuff whilst the dishwasher chugs away.
I remember moving out to an apartment without a dishwasher for the first time after living my entire life with the convinience of one. And ooooh boy I would scrub everything so many times over because I could tell the difference and it made me paranoid. It's also such a chore to wash them yourself. I still struggle anything that has fat on the surface because not only does it make the dish greacy and a nightmare to wash it can also made the whole water bath greacy and makes everything so much harder to clean.
Except cooked-on, or dried-on egg, that always stays on my dishes after the dishwasher.
You got Technology Connection's recent video in the description. GJ.
I love Alec's peculiar obsessions.
And yours too.
Being against pre-rinse cleaning is ridiculous. Waiting for food to dry can make it extremely difficult to get off, even in the dishwasher. It also helps your dishwasher go longer between deep cleanings as it gets gunked up less quickly.
My 2 issues with dishwashers is that dishwashers can damage many kinds of kitchen wares like most plastic and glass not to mention cast iron. Second i find they don't remove food residue well so i tend to use about a gallon of water and some soap to remove the bulk of the crud on my dishes and hand clean what the dishwasher will damage then let the machine final clean rinse and sanitize the rest.
This whole line of argument seems to ignore the damage and conflate sanitization with cleaning and vice versa a great example would be get 2 white ceramic cups or plates fill them with tea and let the tea evaporate then run one through the dishwasher and wipe the other with a wet soapy cloth both will remove some of the residue but the hand wash will get far more.
Also the video is on point about sponges and drying mats are disgusting and if you don't hang them after each use and was qnd swap them regularly drying ot cleaning cloths can get nasty fast.
It takes days for us to fill the dishwasher. Opening that thing when it's halfway full STINKS. We pre-rinse to avoid that.
How few times per day do you eat
Unfortunately people don't like this option and I understand why, but I designate a counter for dirty dishes and the dishes that sit inside my dishwasher are clean.
Dishes sitting on a counter get dry really quickly, which means they dont smell or attract insects. I live alone and go weeks in between cycles with no problems.
Another option is to buy a dishwasher with an air purifying system, such as the beko ionguard system, but I dont depend on it for dirty plates
It might still be more water effective to run the dishwasher more often, like when it's 1/3 to 1/2 full, than to pre rinse each dish and only running at full capacity
I never prerinse and I agree, sometimes stuff stinks. Leaving the door ajar greatly helps, also I use a napkin to remove food residue
The only thing that i haven't seen people actually compare - washing dishes with cold/cool water vs dishwasher.
I tend to simply use cold water for hand washing so there, i am definitely saving the electricity but wasting a lot of water. However, the overall cost would be lower in hand washing in thaf case since water is cheaper than electricity.
Me: "Umm... these utensils are encrusted with dried-up bits of food, and all the glassware looks like a foggy day in London..."
The Dishwasher: "It's all perfectly sterile, I promise!"
Me: "That is not the issue!"
Hyperbole aside, I really don't care if there's some trace amounts of bacteria left on my hand-washed dishes. My immune-system needs the workout - an overly sterile life is how you wind up developing a ton of autoimmune conditions. The trouble just is that, if you live alone, you either run a dishwasher that's 5% full - which, even according to the rather optimistic numbers presented in this video, isn't very efficient - or you let stuff sit in the dishwasher for *days,* accumulating until it's sorta-kinda-full at least... at which point the gunk covering them will have dried up and become basically impossible for the machine to clean properly. So the results are either disgusting, or disgustingly wasteful.
"become basically impossible for the machine to clean properly" A classic example of underestimating your dishwasher, as most people do. The dishwasher will clean almost anything, even encrusted gunk on a pan that hasn't been washed for 3 days after using it. I didn't really believe this at first either, but then I just ran my dirty plates that had been sitting in the sink for 4 days with encrusted food scraps all over them through the dishwasher as a test, and they came out completely spotless and perfectly clean, even the most encrusted scraps were completely removed.
The only thing you have to be aware of is if you have a filter, and also if things are extremely oily, as oil can clog either the drain, or the water drainage pipe further downstream. For large amounts of oily residue, just use a paper towel to wipe the majority of it off, and you can put it into the machine just fine.
As for quantity of dishes, if you live alone, just learn to cook for yourself. You will be able to fill up a dishwasher more than enough to make it reasonably full after 2 days, and those two days that plates are sitting anywhere are not a problem for any dishwasher. Even then, modern dishwashers have different programs, shorter programs, half wash programs, and all kinds of options, so if you have a very small amount of dishes that you want done now, you can just run it on an alternate program and it will wash more efficiently than you would yourself.
Ooh and the glassware issue you have is because of hard water. You need to add water softener to the dishwasher, which completely eliminates this problem. Modern dishwashers have a special compartment for exactly this purpose, to add water softener and keep your glassware crystal clear. These issues you are having are simply because you do not know how to use a dishwasher, which is very common.
@@luka188 So... in order to avoid the minor inconvenience of hand-washing my dishes, I just need to... spend a ton more time and effort on more large-scale cooking-projects, on a daily basis, in order to generate enough pots, pans, plates and utensils to fill the dishwasher in a reasonable times?
Duly noted.
The idea that some people have dishwashers but refuse to use them is mind blowing. I HATE washing dishes by hand. I would gladly put one in my apartment if I could.
It would have been nice a comparison about the use of soap / detergent
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HECK yes - they're the best!
Just wash the dishes right after you use them and you get most of these benefits. It's the absolute best habit I've developed. Unless you eat from 10 plates at a time, it takes about 5 seconds to wash almost any dish if you don't let the food dry on it
Good modern 60 cm dishwasher (Europe) uses
hell yeah dude hit em with the math
It only makes no sense to not use a dishwasher if you have enough dishes that need cleaning. Not only do I live alone, I use a pretty small set of dishes daily: two plastic bowls, a multicooker bowl/pan, a tablespoon, a teaspoon, a fork, a mug, and a knife. Plastic dishes and knives are recommended against being put in a dishwasher, the former can deform because of the heat, and the latter can get dull; the multicooker pan will probably not even fit in one, and I'm sure it's not allowed to go in it either. I have literally zero reason to buy a dishwasher for two spoons, a fork, and a mug.
@@Lernos1 Well in that case:
1. Buy a real set of dishes and fill up dishwasher once every couple days.
2. Knives don't go dull in dishwasher - this warning is either from knives having untreated wooden handles that get damaged by water or weird japanese knives made of iron/carbon steel that rust easily.
There is literally nothing else contacting knife than hot water solution with detergent soluable dirt.
Or buy a mini dishwasher - they're still more cost effective than handwashing.
@@michahalczuk9071 Why would I buy a set I'm not going to use? I've been at it for 7 years. Sounds like inventing new problems to me. Second, are you sure a dishwasher is still more cost effective than less than 4 minutes of water running (I don't leave my tap open all the time duh), especially considering that hot water doesn't use electricity on its own (piped directly in), unlike a dishwasher, and electricity is more costly than hot water where I live?
@@Lernos1 4 minutes of running hot water is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than any dishwasher would use.
Even including the detergent and running power, it's still going to be much more cost effective unless you count your time as genuinely worthless.
Something worth mentioning, bacteria doesn't mean bad or dirty. Biodiversity is very important (for many things including your gut health). And ingesting soap is very bad so make sure to rinse your dishes properly if you hand wash
Here is a question. Who fonded those researches? Dishwasher makers?
References in the description, you can check yourself, funding has to be disclosed :)
Never had a dishwasher. I wish we had one. Handwashing is tedious and tiring.
Here's how I use a dishwasher: I still wash dishes, but I do it to remove all the grime, and loosenthe stuff that stuck on, ETC. The dishwasher for me is there to pick up the slack wherever I might've failed, sterilizing the dishes and getting any particles I missed during the handwash. It saves me time knowing I don't have to be meticulous in washing every dish, and guilt-free knowing there won't be a speck of food left.
HERE is how I hand-wash dishes:
I use a sponge with a nylon wrap thing around it to make it semi-abrasive. I DO NOT load the sink with water. I pre-rinse dishes then load the sponge with the new Palmolive With Oxiclean and about 25% ammonia. That combination cuts grease like a hot knife through butter. I stack up the soapy dishes on the sink, then rinse them with HOT as I can stand water. This works fantastically and I bet if they were examined they would be very close to germ-free. Two things that you said apply here: It ISN'T energy efficient and it takes time. The issue is, I don't have room for a dishwasher in my kitchen. 😨
I bet that you would still find that your dishes aren’t as clean as a dishwasher but probably far cleaner than the average hand wash. However, given that you don’t have room for a dishwasher, I’d say you’re doing the best possible cleaning you can.
get a counter top model
I use a scouring pad to wash my dishes. They come out very clean. Also the bacteria in the kitchen isn't gonna kill you. Your body can handle it!
I wonder about the energy consumption if one takes into account the energy required to manufacture and ship dishwashers?
Compared to the continuous energy usage in heating water, still much less than handwashing
5:24 my eyes are twitching at that sight
Measuring cleanliness with the amount of bacteria feels weird to me. I think how much food is stuck on the plate or how much oil is left on the plate are better measures because bacteria can grow from these leftovers.
They have to measure it that way, because most of the time oils/leftover food gets removed by either a dishwasher or by a human completely, since you can see it. You can't see bacteria, which is probably why it's still there after humans wash dishes. A dishwasher doesn't need to see the dirt, because it's washing the dish x times no matter how dirty it looks, which is probably why there is almost no bacteria after a full washing cycle.
My parents refuse to buy a new dishwasher when the old one broke. When it broke they left the unwashed plates in there now full of mold.
I watched your last video and decided to experiment. You were right! Thank you for so many hours saved!!
Do we still need sterile dishes? I think we mostly look for gunk. My family's dishwasher us a bit unclear to use too...
I would _love_ to be able to do less handwashing! But my MiL's kitchen is _full_ of things that can't go in the dishwasher. Anything that comes with a nonstick coating, she chooses that in preference to anything sensible; cheap plastics that will melt; aluminums that will lose their finish; heirloom china where the pattern will wash off; pots and serving dishes that just plain won't fit... Plus, even in the new modern dishwasher, many of the heat-safe plastics cling to fats and _still_ come out with a soapy residue clinging to that.
Maybe you're using too much detergent then. Have you tried powder detergent with different amounts?
I'm Asian (and not living in a Western country) and we don't do dishwashers.
Also I cook and most expensive things can NOT go in a dishwasher. Glasses, knives, wooden stuff, fancy delicate china and custom crockery and teaware, you name it.
I'd use one in a heartbeat if I were a cheap restaurant dealing with generic white porcelain plates but that does not describe my household.
Get rid of kitchen items that can't go into the dishwasher. That was my mothers attitude way back. If it can't go in the dishwasher why have it?
@@jiahaotan696 Thats actually a common myth in non-Western countries, dishwashers can handle all those things. Glasses, knives, wooden stuff, even fancy delicate china and teaware. Dishwashers have different settings, much like laundry machines do, and you can choose the setting you want. Do you want it scrubbed hard? Sure. Do you want it delicate? Also fine. Do you want to do it with cold water? Its just a button away.
@@kennixox262 That's my attitude as well, but it's not my stuff, and I'm not arguing the point with somebody pushing 90 years old.
Man i hate doing the dishes by hand so much. Don’t mind most chores around the house except doing the dishes. Cant wait to have a dishwasher someday. This video only strengthens my belief that doing the dishes by hand is so pointless.
I love to see that your merch partnership is with DFTBA! The rest of the video is, of course, also great, but I'm always thrilled to see more popularity go towards the endeavors of the Green brothers.
I hope there will be a third video on how to keep the dishwasher clean! If your dishwasher is dirty then you might as well hand wash.
At the cabin where we have to haul in the water, you'd be surprised at how little is needed if you do it with low water usage in mind. Sure the water is not super hot but then the rinse is done with water that was boiled at way hotter then 65. Done with no extra energy half of the year as your heating the cabin anyway.
I’ve used my dishwasher before. I didn’t like it much and it’s a tradition between family and I to hand wash together. We always make sure to use the kettle to get boiling water and sanitize our sponges. I like the idea of a dishwasher just not the using it.
I wished I could have a dishwasher but alas, I'm in a dorm room. But that made me realize that yeah, the dorm's faucet water is not hot enough. I'll think of using my kettle more often to wash my dishes in sterilizing water. :)
I think the problem with this video at its core with how it was approached is that if someone bought a new dishwasher for their house or are living somewhere with a new dishwasher, odds are they value it and will use it. A lot of people have dishwashers that are over ten years old and don't know how much to trust them. Ultimately, many of these points still hold true for older dishwashers, but also due to breakdown over time there might be elements where they fail. Everyone *should experiment* with their dishwasher, mainly looking for gunk left behind since pressure, not temperature which kills bacteria, will likely be the failure point. My current dishwasher I do not trust to get the gunk off of dishes so I make sure to soak and scrape them beforehand. Dishwashers are a great final step to ensure bacteria is gone for all dishes, but dishes may require prep. It's just important to find the best way to save water while still doing what you need.
I remember I watched some documentary/educational video when I was younger (not RUclips) that encouraged hand washing dishes over using the dishwasher to be more environmentally friendly. This stuck with me for the last n years but with the recent surge in high-quality dishwasher PSAs on RUclips I have finally shed the burden of lies I have carried since childhood.
my tea mug is the final boss for our dishwasher - there is always some residue left so i wash it by hand after it had its bath in the washer :)
wait i didn't know people were washing dishes under a constantly running tap. I've just been soaking and washing them all together in one basin of water, then rinsing afterwards. probably still not super water efficient but I had no idea there was a whole other method that's apparently this common??
Why do some dishes (especially plastics) have residual detergent fragrance after going through the dishwasher? Are there detergent/rinse aid residues on dishes?
Metal and Ceramic dishes are non-porous, plastic dishes are generally porous, so they will retain some of the cleaning chemicals
Sometimes. It really depends on which soaps you're using, how hot the water is, among other issues. If you have residue, consider switching soap to either a different brand, or a less concentrated formula for a little while and see what happens. As for the rinse aids, it SHOULDN'T leave residue, so if you're concerned that's what's causing it, I'd save testing the removal of that for last.
Two other tips! Make sure that the water in your dish washer is actually hot. Cold water circulating is less likely to get gunk off than hot water. Secondly, make sure you're not overloading your washer, or stacking dishes strangely. If some plates/bowls are overlapping, and water can't rinse that particular dish, then the residue is gonna stay there.
Putting plastic in dishwashers isn't recommended.
There was a big study on plastic water bottles in The Netherlands and it showed after 15 washes in a dishwasher it started to drop micro plastic. Which can't be healthy for you. Because they get to hot.
Besides that, non plastic silverware is usually more robust which leads in less waste.
I don't use a dishwasher but it's purely for psychological reasons. Loading and unloading the dishwasher aren't particularly difficult tasks, but it's time spent all at once. When I hand wash, I can wash a couple dishes and maybe a pan immediately after using them. I may be putting in more work in the long run, but it means I don't put it off and end up with a backlog. When we had a dishwasher, we ironically ended up with more dishes sitting in the sink. The place handwashing really falls apart though is when you have a big cooking project and suddenly have a ton of dishes to do all by hand.
I'm not entirely convinced by the amount of water used by handwashing. I grew up in a drought and was conditioned into using the minimum amount of water. I'm going to measure it tonight and see.
How do the water usage numbers of dishwasher compare with handwashing if you fill the washing basin with hot water and then *turn off the tap*?
You don’t rinse your dishes?
@@KrisOsterhout Just scrape off any big chunks. The water in the basin will eventually get quite dirty so you'd need to change it if you're doing a lot of dishes. So no rinsing involved.
it cant be enough of a difference to be relevant
@@Jonas-Seiler I think it is; filling the washing basin is like 10 liters maybe if you have many dishes, that's the same as running my (relatively slow) tap for just two minutes
Agree with you. Anytime anyone cites dishwasher vs handwasher, I want to know how they’re handwashing
So basically if you don't have a lot of dishes to do, it's still better to do them by hand. I am glad this video addresses that. Most nights, my wife and I are only generating 2 bowls/plates and 2 forks worth of dishes, which I can definitely knock out with less than 4 minutes' worth of water.
When i wash dishes by hand, i dump as many as i can in a tub filled with hot water, and let them sit for 1 minute, to then skrub em. Wouldent this way save more water, than continuously having the tab on?
You still need to rinse
If you reuse the water to rinse, then you're compromising in safety.
Even if you do use less water, it's probably not saving you a whole lot of money
For my rates, 1000 gallons = $4.40
Or 1 gallon = $.0044
Not a lot of savings
@@hector-m-carrillo *DO* you still need to rinse? The only items I rinse are glasses, to avoid soap spots. Anything else goes on the drying rack for some number of minutes before being hand dried. By then most of the water has dripped or evaporated off.
I see no evidence of anyone getting ill from the small amounts of bacteria on dishes, cutlery and crockery.
@@AthAthanasius soap is primarily a surfactant, meaning it works by wrapping dirt/bacteria/oil in bubbles.
This is important because a lot of things like to stick onto surfaces.
Soap does have antimicrobial properties - as in actively killing - but it primarily works through those bubbles.
medicine-yale-edu/news-article/why-soap-works/
Without rinsing, you are just letting everything that was trapped inside the bubbles free; which accomplishes very little. They could have gone down the drain instead.
This is then followed by you using a drying rag to clean the soap off, meaning your dish cloths are gathering bacteria significantly more quickly than the average.
We don't have a lot of data on how many people get sick from this because it's very hard to find out *where* someone got sick from.
But let's just assume the number of people who have gotten sick is >0.
Given that dishwashers are overwhelminglf more likely to be cleaner and cheaper, why would you risk those >0 persons with the worse alternative.
soap is primarily a surfactant, meaning it works by wrapping dirt/bacteria/oil in bubbles.
This is important because a lot of things like to stick onto surfaces.
Soap does have antimicrobial properties - as in actively killing - but it primarily works through those bubbles.
Google why soap works and go to the Yale link
Without rinsing, you are just letting everything that was trapped inside the bubbles free, which accomplishes very little; they could have gone down the drain instead.
This is then followed by you using a drying rag to clean the soap off, meaning your dish cloths are gathering bacteria significantly more quickly than the average.
We don't have a lot of data on how many people get sick from this because it's very hard to find out *where* someone got sick from.
But let's just assume the number of people who have gotten sick is >0.
Given that dishwashers are overwhelmingly more likely to be cleaner and cheaper, why would you risk those >0 persons with the worse alternative.
that tub alone is probably using almost as much (if not more) water as a dishwasher does
Those studies should really control for people who are insanely wasteful when hand washing dishes, I have a cousin that would wash and rinse the silverware one at a time with the water running the whole time.
My only problem with dishwashers is their inability to remove caked on food. I'd love to just throw all the dishes in and call it good, but my family isn't very good at rinsing after meals or soaking, and putting dishes with significant amounts of food on them into the dishwasher SIGNIFICANTLY diminishes the effectiveness of the washer and the cleanliness of the dishes, not to mention that the trap on ours doesn't come out the way your expect, so you have to dig stuff out before removing and cleaning it so it doesn't stay in the bottom. As a result of all of this, i almost have to wash the dishes before putting them in the dish washer to be sanitized....
This might mean your dishwasher is old. The heat and pressure of the water should get off even pretty nasty food residue. If it's not working though, a few ideas. 1) Make sure the water is hot before starting the cycle; the hotter the initial water is, the hotter it'll be throughout the cycle, and hotter water = better cleaning. 2) Make sure you're using good soap. If your dishes are really crusty, you'll need more heavy duty soap. 3) Just make it a rule in your house to rinse off plates. Asking your family to make that a habit shouldn't be hard.
At my old place, which I was at for 3 years, I didn't use my dishwasher. I was always disgusted with the dishes when they came out and ended up hand washing them anyway. I just moved into a place with new appliances and am having to relearn how to use a dishwasher because I'm so used to just cleaning my dishes after every meal.
The only problem with handwashing is the unwillingness to replace sponges and soak dishes in scalding hot water afterwards.
Me watching this with my 15 yo dishwasher...
Run the tap until it's hot before running the dishwasher! The dishwasher is connected to the hot water supply so if you actually supply it hot water and not water that's been sitting and chilling in pipes, you can actually get good cleaning out of it
how to determine if you NEED a dishwasher:
1. are you lazy?
2. can you afford it?
That is very interesting. I live in Brazil and we don't really use dishwashers that much. My dad owns a fairly modern one and he barely uses it in his household. Only when they have like A TON OF DISHES, like when they had ppl over, etc. Def not on day to day and I guess I kinda soaked that in. I never even considered a dishwasher.
The one thing I always miss in these types of videos is comparisons to washing in the sink itself, using a plug in the sink. As far as I know this is the most common way of hand washing in Europe, or at least in The Netherlands. I can do the dishes for the day, based on a 2-person load of dishes, using just about 5L of water, or at most 10L if I have to re-fill the sink after the water becomes dirtier. Comparing that to 15 liters for a dishwasher makes it look a lot better than the typical strawman argument of comparing it to handwashing dishes under the running tap. I'd love to see some stats on how much water the typical handwash in a sink uses, and how big of an effect that has on how clean the dishes come out (I imagine running the tap for the entire time will probably result in cleaner dishes, tbh).
i was thinking the same thing (im also european)
i remember having to refill the sink whenever it would get too dirty and having to stick my hand in the filthy water to remove the plug and a standard energy certified dishwasher uses 11 litres of water i don't miss handwashing that's for sure
I too am European. Trust me, most people I met do run the tap all the time. Those who don't or try to save water have poor wash results: soapy glasses, oily pans, film on plates. It might work in some countries where people do not eat a lot of starchy or cooked foods, but it definitely doesn't work here in Italy. My dishwasher, on the other hand, has always given me great results
Are you really that fucking short on money that the tiny amount of water you probably don’t even save by hand washing is of concern to you
i didn’t realize how much water i was using hand-washing dishes till our pipes froze back in january and i was standing there trying to fill the sink with water from jugs. a gallon is a shockingly small amount of water when you have a sink full of dirty dishes, and i’m impressed that the machines can efficiently use that amount to clean a whole load. the heat must really make a difference, and that thought has me wondering if it might be worth boiling my dishes after each wash or soaking them with bleach to make up for the lack of sanitation power in the handwashing process.
Missed a point: I need to replace my dishwasher about every 5-6 years even though I follow all the manufacturer's care instructions. They're just made to not last. That wipes out all the eco-friendliness.
I still use the dishwasher because I appreciate the clean dishes and not spending time with my hands in soapy water but the planned obsolesce makes them NOT eco-friendly.
I've used a small bosch for 6 years and it's good as new though
@@g.m.9180 My old dishwasher went kaput last year. I finally got around to replacing it the other month. Huge quality of life improvement
How does it just wipe the eco-friendliness? The extra energy to heat hand-washing water over just a year should be way more than it takes to get raw materials and produce a single dish washer at scale
@@davidawakim5473 So if everyone has to buy a new dishwasher, say once every 5-8 years, then you have all the raw materials it takes to make those dishwashers, all the employees driving back and forth to work, all the energy used by the factory, all the waste generated by the factory (which is a huge amount) and then the old dishwashers go to the landfill. If dishwashers didn't have built in obsolesce and could be used as long as customers wanted then they wouldn't be an eco disaster.
It's my opinion that everyone deserves the option to have a dishwasher, even if they don't use it YET. Besides just the fact that they're better at washing dishes, there's the fact that you never know when an injury or long-term disability will make it much harder to spend long spans of time at the sink washing dishes. It takes me about 12-ish minutes to get through about a dozen pieces- bowls, cups, etc.- and perhaps a dozen pieces of flatware, and those 12 minutes are extremely hard on my back.
I miss having a dishwasher so dang much.
My family's problem with dish washers is that it can't wash pots and pans for you, so if we have to wash the pots, we might as well just wash the rest of the stuff
Hand washing doesn't require a whole gallon per minute. I use like 1/4 cup water with a spritz of soap to scrub a bowl, then maybe 2 cups water to rinse it off. Doesn't even need hot water if you wash dishes immediately after using them, or at least giving them some time to soak.
so a single bowl takes 2 cups and a quarter? thats kinda a lot
Then remember that your dishwasher uses less than 1/2 of a cup to completely wash and rinse that same bowl. You, as is the norm for many people, have absolutely no clue how water efficient a dishwasher really is compared to doing anything by hand. With 2 cups and a quarter, your dishwasher washes 3 plates and 2 bowls completely spotless.
idk which population is larger: the people who dont wash dishes well or the people who dont know how to load their dishwasher
This is for the most part what I had expected, but one thing, we don't let our tap run while we wash, we fill our sink ( which is probably like 6l max ) and then wash our dishes in that
Wow!! I'm getting a dishwasher today
Yea, sometimes a girlfriend is a good investment.
I know this isn't food related but I would love the see the same with washing machines vs hand washing
I mean, it's basically no contest. Handwashing clothing is just extremely inefficient. You'd be harder pressed to actually find someone who DOES handwash clothes anymore, with the exception of things like underwear/intimates. Your washer will always do a better and faster job.
I loath emptying the dishwasher more then I do just doing the dishes so I just wash the dishes myself.
It completely baffles me that there are people who own a dishwasher but refuse to use it. Washing dishes by hand is such a hassle, it's labor intensive, takes forever and just outright sucks. Who on earth would do that voluntarily?
I also just don't get the people who say doing the dishes is calming or helps them decompress. I'm lazy and impatient, doing the dishes might be one of my most hated tasks, I absolutely despised every second of it back when I had no dishwasher.
dishwashers are very expensive here in brazil so I've never seen one in my life, and no one i know has one, but now i really want one hahaha
3:17 looking at how much water is being wasted is killing me 5:55
I would really like to have a dishwasher, unfortunately in my last three apartments, including the one I live in now, there is no room for them at all. Saving time, water and the skin of my hands and nails would be so worth it. I was considering a mini dishwasher, but it doesn't suit me at all and it takes up too much space on the countertop, which is already very small 😭
I'd feel unclean if I didn't leave a comment.
What about the energy calculus for those that live around the equator that doesn't use hot water to clean our dishes?
Also what about the energy/carbon footprint of production, distribution maintenance as well as proper disposal after the useful life of the appliance?
We have a dishwasher but it's super old and doesn't work very well. The dishes come out still dirty so I have to hand wash everything. I would love to move into a different apartment with newer appliances
Safe to say Technology Connections has created a whole RUclips subculture of dishwasher enthusiast
2:56 Who looks are their dishes and thinks “is it dirty enough to need a cleaning?”
If it’s in the sink and/or someone ate off-it it’s getting washed.
I had never used a dishwasher until i was 25 and let me tell you i was blown away by how easy and effective it was. Even though i live on my own i use that dishwasher nearly everyday bc hand washing is one of the greatest displeasures of life
I highly recommend Technology Connections' videos about this.
I would also love a crossover episode!
when i moved to my brand new apartment having a dishwasher was a huge boon i hated washing by hand when i still lived with my parents sticking you hand in the disgusting water was the worst feeling i run the washer every few days whenever im out of clean glasses or plates filling it with dishwasher salt and using diswasher cleaner are essential to keep it functional salt for avoiding limescale buildup and dishwasher cleaner every 30 days to avoid smells and it also cleans the inside of the machine
AAAAA I just watched Charles Cornell’s video about “Tea for Two” and BOOM 6:38
I love our dishwasher, but we are 3 people. When it's only 2, there just aren't enough dirty dishes at the end of the day to justify a wash, mostly because the harder to clean things like big pans and pots don't actually fit and others shouldn't be put in there, so at that point we just hand wash.
Idk if my hybrid method is relevant here, but i just use a hot wet sponge/brillo to scrub the stuff that i don't trust the washer to knock off then put the dishes in the washer. I trust that way more than by hand or washer alone. 😊
Alot of people dislike the dishwasher because sometimes some stubbon food gunk gets stuck even after the dishwash, just remove it with a brush and rinse, its sterile cause of the heated water anyway
Exactly. A flake of dried pasta can get scratched off and the fork will still be bacteria and grease-free.
In my humble opinion you forgot to mention one crucial fact. Most of those germs left on the dishes after hand washing aren't EXTREMELY dangerous for human health. In other words - there is no need to have sterile dishes before each meal.
Wait how can the average person use 100L to handwash dishes if a regular sink holds about 10L? Do they just leave the tap running the entire time? Who even does that?
The same people who leave the water running while brushing their teeth.
Yup, everyone in my family leaves it running when doing dishes manually.
This feels very similar to the “brewing in your own filth” debate when it comes to bathing versus showering.
what sink only holds 10 liter of water?
Me, I do that, because I hate hand washing, though I turn it down to use more like 50 L.
I bought a house about 6 months ago, and didn't realize it did not have a dishwasher. I absolutely hate how much water I am wasting with hand washing, getting a dishwasher installed is my first major improvement planned