Cilantro didn't always taste like soap
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- Cilantro is one of the most polarizing foods out there - but why? And what do stinkbugs have to do with anything?
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰 𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆-𝗴𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆:
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-Angela Lovero, Entomologist at the New Jersey State Department of Agriculture
-Dr. Don Weber, Research Entomologist at the USDA Invasive Insect Biocontrol & Behavior Laboratory
-Dr. Linda Bartoshuk, Bushnell Professor of Food Science and Human Nutrition at the University of Florida
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3 days ago....thats sus
If you think marmorated stinkbugs are pretty, you've clearly never had one drunkenly fly around a room, only to land directly on you seemingly out of nowhere (despite being loud and terrible flyers) then get nervous and vomit that awful stink all over. It will cure any admiration, believe me.
This is just like how bed bugs smell like mulberries. I wonder whats up with that. (posting again so you may make a pt. 2!)
I've noticed one inaccuracy: when you said 'a few hundred years ago soap wasn't as big a part of daily life as today'... people in the past used soap just as much as they do now (probably more, in fact, because we have shampoo, shower gel, and dedicated specific dish soaps and laundry detergents), but it would've been soap they made themselves at home from animal fat, and so only the more expensive soap made by professional artisans and used by aristocrats would have had the perfumes that give modern soap its smell.
I find coriander seeds to be MORE soapy than fresh leaves.
Ironically, I like the pungent “soapy” notes but I somehow also despise stink bugs… Tell me how that works 😂
My description for cilantro has always been "it tastes like stinkbugs smell" and I feel validated
This is how shiitake mushrooms taste to me
Me too. When I say it, people always ask if I have eaten stink bugs to know the taste. Shitake I find delicious.
I use the exact same phrase!
Me too!!
Yes! Thank you! After decades, I still get almost nothing but strange looks and confusion from people when I say that.
You asked if they would send you some stinkbugs "...aaaand crickets". For a moment I was wondering "what do you want the crickets for?" before I realized you meant that as a euphemism for silence, not that you had actually requested they send you crickets in addition to stinkbugs.
I've read many times crickets are tasty ;) Sadly I only got some covered by spicy flour so they tasted flour, yuck!
I ate chapulines in Mexico, cooked crickets. They're frankly delicious
My thoughts exactly! *lol* Curious minds think alike!
Same!
@@shiNIN42 The roasted crickets i tasted was nothing to write home about. Not bad, not notable. I heard it's better as cricket flour to cook with, though. Roasted buffalo "worms" are so good though, and if they're not roasted and just used in cooking like made into burger patties then they taste like extremely delicious whole grain bread.
Thank you for mentioning that we WANT to be able to enjoy cilantro. We’re not just contrarians or people who “hate flavor”
It isn't even the flavor to me, though the smell itself is way too strong. It's the unpleasant, coated mouth feel. It's like taking a sip of a heavily perfumed candle.
@@Wikrin
Oh, very interesting! I hadn't heard of that before.
Yeah.. I don't need to like it. It should really just go extinct.
Did anybody seriously think you were just being ‘difficult’??
Yes. People would. Or think you're being trendy. Or are one of those people who claim to be allergic, etc. to everything they don't like. Mos def people are like that. Folks will roll their eyes at anything outside their personal experience.
This is incredibly validating. I told my wife that cilantro tastes like bitterness and soapiness, but then I can never tell when she put cilantro in her soups. I didn't know cutting it and cooking it would tame the soapy taste.
It's the same with me. I can't stand fresh cilantro, but it tastes good cooked or if it's sat out for a while after being chopped. My husband loves it in any form.
it doesn't work for me, even completely chopped and cooked 🥲
Same here, and I'm glad the video explained this. I didn't understand why sometimes I don't mind cilantro, and other times it ruins the food for me...now I know that the "really fresh" stuff is full of that aldehyde tastes nasty to me. What the video didn't explain, though, is why can't seem to smell stink bugs (they just smell sort of like dirt).
For me, it doesn’t. I can detect the tiniest bit of cilantro in a dish even if cooked and it’ll ruin the dish for me. I wonder if autistic hyper-sensitivity adds to this for me.
I haven’t been around stink bugs though so I don’t know how they smell
When I first had a dish with noticeable cilantro, I honestly thought the cook forgot to rinse the pot
I’m sad for you, you’re missing a real treat.
I thought I was being punked😅.
I was in California pizza parlor. Had a pizza I though was washed in dish soap. I did find out it was cilantro.
Me too
I am surprised that there isn’t a note or anything on menus. Omg my kid is so picky, I am sure he’s never had cilantro voluntarily but I wonder if that is why he is so terrified of Mexican food. Who knows what he tried as a little kid & ppl with the soap flavor must really hate it
@@montananerd8244 That very well could be, but I also remember being way more sensitive to spicy food when I was a kid too. I honestly think cilantro should be labelled like an allergen given how too much of it can make a dish virtually inedible if you've got the soap flavor. I went to a burrito place where I only found out they put it in most of the fillings after I had already ordered, and I could only eat the parts that didn't have those fillings
Stink bugs smelling like cilantro and people liking it is one of life’s greatest plot twists to me. I still have shell shock from smelling a stink bug as a kid.
There ARE a lot of different stink bugs...
Yeah I got enough stink bug smell as a kid for a lifetime. They smell like undescribable garbage, but I love cilantro
Stinkbugs don't smell bad to me weirdly. They smell strange and I don't want to smell like them but it doesn't smell stinky nor soapy but like parsley. Never been brave enough to taste one lol.
Me too!!! I was only 3 and this handsome shield bug let me pet it and hold it and stayed in my hand as I fell asleep; then I was woken by mum. I opened my hand and the stinkbug had had enough, letting out a shocking explosion of pure toxicity. I was scarred for life. Coriander is a stomach churning nightmare; coriander seeds are like fermenting garbage! How can anything smell and taste so foul??? This is beyond extreme. I need a sit-down!
Stink bugs that I am familiar with here in Finland look slightly different to those in the video and I am too familiar with the smell and taste of those (Yes, I have tasted those something like 30 times in my life because they have been hiding with berries). The smell is extremely strong and smelled as close by as in the video would make be gag real bad. Taste has made me empty my stomach once.
The reaction I get from it could be compared to White spirit/Mineral spirit/Mineral turpentine (There are even more names for this stuff) like revolting substance detected. Making me try to get away from it and being around it is very unpleasant.
I grew up in the country in sweden so i was exposed to stinkbugs very early in life, every now and then you'd pick a berry in the wild or in the garden and it would have a stinkbug on it or even a stinkbug may have left its scent even if the bug was gone, so i was very familiar with the smell but i didn't taste coriander until i was 13 or something when i had some thai shrimp dish as cilantro isn't used much or at all in modern swedish cooking (but it was fairly common hundreds of years ago), and it tastes exactly the same.
However berries that have had stinkbugs on them often also have some thing that tastes bitter, which you can't smell of course, but it makes the experience worse, and also the stinkbugs are much more intense than cilantro.
I still think they taste exactly like stinkbugs, but i still like it. I still fear getting berries that have been stinkbugged though and even handling cilantro and other fruit at the same time sometimes startles me some times as even the smallest wift of that smell makes me think the fruit or berries have been stinkbugged so i always wash my hands after handling cilantro/coriander. In swedish the word for stinkbug is "bärfis" meaning "berryfart".
OMG, this comment made my day! I have an 11yo who is going to LOVE this fun fact!!! 😆☺
Second that 100%.
I love coriander seeds, kinda like cilantro, but only in certain contexts (preferably with a lot of lemon/lime juice) and absolutely abhor the stinkbugged berries.
Recalling that taste though, yeah, it gives some kind of soapiness, but mostly it's annoying because it catches you unaware expecting a fresh, sweet berry flavour and hits your palate like a ton of bricks.
Not sure we have stinkbugs here, but I do gather wild berries and I would be so sad if they got stinkbugged!
Gotta be real, as an invasive ecology undergrad currently taking a class in entomology, this thumbnail was a shock and a half. Partly because I was confused at the topic, partly because I was surprised that I actually recognized the species on sight (you used a very clear and well defined image, which helped a lot).
This video is so vindicating! Back when we were overrun with invasive stinkbugs I kept telling people that they smell exactly like cilantro and no one believed me.
Same, I have been telling my friends this for years. It's not soap for me it's stink bug.
For years I've been smelling stink bugs when I walked through the hallway of my apartment complex at dinnertime. I knew it had to be cooking related and looked it up a few months ago and found it was cilantro. 😂
@@floraidh4097 I finally got the 'soap' association by doing the dishes with boiling water. When the soapy fumes hit my nose it all clicked. But yeah most of the time it's stinkbug for me.
stink bugs smell nothing at all like cilantro
@@Acolis cilantro literally has the same aromatic compounds as stink bugs.
April 1st on RUclips is frustrating. I honestly wasn't sure it was a legit video until almost halfway in.
I watched till the end and I'm still not sure.
Totally legit! Just an ironic day to release this slightly-offbeat video...
@@MinuteFood My device says it was released somewhere around 2 AM on April *2nd* in my local time. I wasn't confused, thankfully.
I know this is gonna sound really bizarre but I can taste both the soapy flavor and the kind of fresh herb flavor that people maybe taste.I know I experienced both but it is certain enough that I don't enjoy it
Stuck in 2005?
OMG you recreated my EXACT experience! Years ago, a stink bug flew onto my face so of course I freaked out and slapped it, which crushed it. Right under my nose. It was like I had just snorted a cilantro smoothie into my sinuses. Horrible! And yes, I am a cilantro hater (tho, as noted in your vid, I wish I weren't.) Prior to that experience, I described cilantro's scent as a combo of soap and bad BO, but since that time my go to has been "crushed stink bug". THANK YOU for making this video, I don't think you can adequately imagine my feelings of VINDICATION! I am sharing this immediately with everyone I know, whatever their position on cilantro. You just gained a subscriber!
I just had a visceral reaction to “cilantro smoothie into my sinuses.” 🤢 thank you for that 😂
Why do you wish you liked cilantro? You can like or dislike any flavor. Humans did not evolve to enjoy every plant nature provides. Additionally, many cultures have a favorite herb or plant or animal food. Doesn't mean we have to strive so hard to enjoy it. Why would we? Because you want to appreciate a different culture? Doesn't have to be with food...
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED THE BUGS!! The weird part is though I'm an enjoyer of cilantro and I eat it all the time, except for a year or two following a terrible stinkbug encounter in my kitchen. The body after it's dead doesn't hold a candle to what a bug that feels under attack can do to all the air in a room. The Aldehyde of duality, capable of great pleasure and great pain.
Buglike is *way* more accurate of a way to describe cilantro to me than soap. Thank you!
It's more like stinkbugs are cilantro-like
Idk how it happened but I tasted the soap just ONCE, a few years ago. It made the food totally inedible, so I sympathize with those who have that sensation all the time
I want to like cilantro so bad, but it literally taste like dawn dish soap right in the mouth.
That happened to me when I grew my own Cilantro from seed. All store bought Cilantro tastes fine. I was thinking of experimenting to see if it was an environmental factor of how the Cilantro was grown (e.g. different soil, more/less light etc) but realised that I couldn't really justify spending that much time on it.
There are two types/varieties of cilantro as per my experience. I live in India and we use it in every dish. The taste is almost indistinguishable if they are added while cooking (when added to hot food) in small quantity.
But if consumed raw or used to make chutney, you can taste the difference. Every once in a while we are blessed with that awkward cilantro variety and end up throwing away the chutney right after grinding.
it really sucks that most people just think I'm incredibly picky, which I'm totally not. even a whiff really does actually instantly ruin your appetite
@@prakash86anish Not from India, but can confirm that happening as i'm also in a part of the world that consumes it both fresh and cooked. My guess is that it must be something in the environment as we plant a lot of food we eat and we didn't use to have much choice for seeds not even 15 years ago. I think it might be some kind of defense against pests if it is not from soil.
I am a cilantro lover but always had some weird connection in my brain between stink bugs and cilantro. When I saw the thumbnail I felt so vindicated. Fascinating stuff !!
Stinkbugs invade my house every winter, so while I don’t taste soapy cilantro, I always have to shake the thought of those annoying little beatles
I am a soap taster and I couldn't stand cilantro when I first encountered it 30 or so years ago... But over time, it grew on me and now I love it. I barely register it as "soapy" anymore.
Yep, same here. I hated how it kept me from enjoying Indian food. So I made a point of adding progressively more of it on purpose until I got used to it.
"I am a soap taster" hehehe.
What's your favorite brand to taste? Mine is Irish spring
@@squidward5110 what’s your opinion on ARFID?
@@squidward5110what an incredibly ignorant statement to make. you are more than allowed to not like how things taste. that's the entire reason cooking and culinary history exists. because we want things to taste good. if people thought like you we would just eat nutrition blocks with no taste because people are afraid of being seen as "lacking character" . such a stupid and ignorant opinion wow.
This is awesome. We had an Easter brunch yesterday where we spent good 15 minutes arguing whether the stink bugs (nasty invasive bugs in northern Illinois these days) smell like cilantro. I think the stink bugs smell like cilantro but nastier. I just forwarded this video link to everyone at the brunch yesterday. Of course, some think MinuteFood is listening to our conversations, and MinuteFood is really the AI overlord that we've been afraid of. For me, personally, I'd welcom MinuteFood as the benevolent overlord.
WE ARE LISTENING
Your advice to substitute Coriander (Ground Cilantro seed, especially fresh ground) was life-changing! I get the flavor I desire out of it when mixing a bit of it into a nice Mexican dish, without that cloying soapiness I taste from fresh Cilantro. I also enjoy the chopped stems a lot more than the leaves.
This is SO interesting, thank you so much for sharing this! I wanted to contribute a little bit to the conversation and say that I have a cute story about stink bugs. I live in North Carolina, so they're super common around here, especially around this time of year. I have a crack in my bathroom that bugs can get in from, and there's been a little family of stink bugs living in the shower for a couple weeks now. Sometimes they get caught in the bath water and I always pick them up and dry them off and whatnot, and I really think that they're aware that I'm helping them. When I'm in the bathroom now they like to fly around and land on me, and they don't release their scent, so I think that they trust me. They're actually really cute and gentle bugs and they don't bite or sting! I think they're just adorable and I love having this little family in my house. I've been thinking about researching what they eat so I can feed them too, haha. I've always loved bugs but I think stink bugs are one of the most unexpected friends I could've found. I always let spiders live in my house because they kill mosquitos, but honestly, I don't care if the stink bugs actually help me in any way, I just like having some cute little bug friends around.
Love your story! It’s is inspiring, people crush bugs in their house, often better to transfer them outsid. creating little make-believe stories about this bug family living and flying around in the bathroom, 🪳🪲🐞think children’s book, comics, cartoons, fables, etc. would be such fun and send a positive message, in my humble opinion of course. Thank you for sharing empie5763
@@mollygilfillan6551never squish a stink bug. 😂 they'll regret that.
Honestly, I do feel the soapyness of cilantro, but I always thought it was the very thing it's being liked for. And I like cilantro because of that. Maybe that's weird, but that taste grew up on me.
You need to graze on some cilantro patches god damn
Same! I hated it, I thought it tasted detergenty. After a while, the soapy taste became milder and now it tastes "fresh"
I'm like this with ginger. Ginger tastes like a bar of soap to me.
A lot of people feel this way actually
@@archerelms didnt know. Do you?
This is great! I am very firmly in the hater-camp when it comes to cilantro and I am EXTREMELY sensitive to it. It makes any dish completely unpalatable to me. (And yes, people have "tested" me on this. I can detect cilantro in dishes no matter how small the amount, even when cilantro-lovers insist there's no cilantro flavor present.) I have had a great many absolutely miserable experiences in restaurants because cilantro was "hidden" in a dish -- that is, not listed on the menu as an ingredient. (And I don't feel it's reasonable for me to demand a replacement or to not have to pay given it's not like there's anything *wrong* with the dish, and besides, its very presence usually makes me lose my appetite anyway. That's how strong my reaction is to the stuff.) But the thing is, I have never understood the "it tastes like soap" thing. It doesn't taste anything like soap to me. When I've been asked in the past to describe what it DOES taste like, I always draw a blank. It tastes like "not food" is the best I could do. Because that's the issue for me -- when it's present, my brain just starts screaming, "Do not put this in your mouth! It is not edible!" But watching this I realize that yeah, it DOES taste the way stinkbugs stink. And where I live -- Madison, WI -- they have been regular visitors in my home so I definitely know that (awful) smell, and it is not one I would ever associate with soap. Huzzah! I now have an answer next time I am asked.
I have your cilantro response to celery. Almost every soup is inedible because almost everyone puts celery in soup, and even the tiniest amount that most people say they can't even taste ruins the entire batch for me.
Agreed. As a fellow cilantro hater i have never understood the comparison to soap…. It just tastes inedible. The first time i tasted it i was eating thai food and i just had to run to the bathroom to spit it out. It was a nice place so there was no place to spit it and im not gonna spit food into a cloth napkin. At that point i didnt know it was cilantro. I genuinely had no idea what i tasted but it was so revolting that my first instinct was to run to the bathroom to spit it out, which i can guarantee is not something i ever do. I was so embarrassed because obviously i reacted super dramatic and had no idea what i even tasted that did that. It wasnt until many years later when eating mexican food and i tasted the taste again that i realized it must be cilantro, though i was still so confused about it supposedly tasting like soap.
Personally i can eat small bits of it i think. Especially if its slightly cooked. But raw leaves of cilantro are just disgusting for me. Can’t do it.
It tastes like garbage.
I've never eaten garbage, but I looked up Things That Contain Aldehydes once trying to work it out for myself, and one of the things is roadkill.
So, for me, Cilantro tastes like "If You Eat This You Will Die Slowly, In Pain."
I don't like crushing stinkbugs. They're harmless, on the plus side, and they do smell disgusting, on the minus side.
But cilantro smells like painful death.
I can detect the soap, though; dish soap, specifically. It used to remind me of the smell of the sink drain after somebody washed very neglected dishes by hand but didn't clean the sink. (I won't talk about my relatives, but the sink situation was a specific event.) Also, with a touch of mold.
Yep. Mold releases aldehydes into the air.
Like you, I can’t stand it and it tastes nothing like soap. Raw cilantro tastes to me like metal and bile. If I put a penny on my tongue and threw up in my mouth it would be the same. This *is* very similar to how stinkbugs smell to me.
I also have a similar aversion to celery and cucumber- both taste horribly metallic to me in raw form.
Thanks for all the videos! You all keep my flame of enthusiasm burning forever!
Thanks for explaining what cilantro is supposed to taste like. I know some people learn to tolerate/like it, but it ruins a dish for me so much that trying to mitigate it with the methods you mentioned would be way too risky. I have noticed that seeds don't give me the same issues though, sauces/spice mixes that include them are miraculously edible. I'm glad to have some validation on that.
I didn't have an opinion on cilantro for a long time, but after a HUGE stinkbug infestation one summer (Chicago suburbs) now that's all I can think of when I chop cilantro
I'm a soap taster, but that disposition has never stopped me from eating cilantro for some reason. I love Mexican food too much to avoid it, even when making it myself at home.
Same! Tastes a bit soapy to me but I still love the stuff.
same for me as well. i taste soap but i'm still perfectly capable of enjoying foods containing cilantro. i wouldn't say i generally enjoy the taste of soap though, so i'm kinda puzzled by it.
Mexican food hasn't always had cilantro in it. I have cookbooks from before the 1980's that don't have a wisp of cilantro.
@@lyndafjellman3315 interesting. It's been a part of Mexican cuisine since the conquistadors, so perhaps it's just a very Americanized Mexican cookbook. We also flood tacos here with cheese and lettuce, but traditional Mexican tacos only are topped with raw onions, cilantro and lime.
In most Mexican foods, cilantro is a very small part. While it does add a (bad) flavour, it is largely overwhelmed by other (good) flavours so it isn't a big deal. I have never had issues eating such foods with cilantro in them although, I would take it without if that were an option.
On the other hand, one time in China I had an onion bread in a street market with a solid layer of cilantro in it (that I was not aware of and never having eaten anything with cilantro as a main component before). It really was like biting into a bar of soap and I had to spit it out, if I tried to swallow I would have vomitted.
How cool! I love the exploration of how people throughout history have described or explained a scent/flavor! I would love to see more like this.
Awesome level of detail!
I'm half way through the video and I'm still waiting for the April fools joke
Every soap ends with a cliffhanger, duh
The real joke is eating coriander regularly in a vain attempt to make it taste good.
I absolutely hate cilantro and I can't detect soapiness to it. In my part of Europe those stinkbugs are green and would sometimes enter your home - maybe once or twice a month, especially in the summer. If you're careful not to disturb them, you're good. But if they get disturbed by a human or a pet, they start stinking this very particular smell. We call them stinkers here. And when I first tasted cilantro, I was aghast that someone would put an herb into their food that had the same taste like a stinker bug.
I threw away the first dish I cooked with it and when I see another recipe on RUclips with cilantro, I'm like - okay, how are those people not appalled by the taste of it? I didn't even realize they're not tasting the same thing as me. Not until now that is.
Most people I know don't like cilantro. And we don't use it in our national dishes. I'm pretty sure it's an evolutionary thing - i.e. our ancestors have evolved to hate the smell/taste, due to it being connected to those bugs.
Same thing with lactose intolerance - people here generally don't have it. Nor allergies to peanuts etc. I bet a few people do, but I bet it's about historical diets and self-preservation habits building an immunity or weakness towards certain ingredients/chemicals.
The geographic south-east of The United States has a very bad stinkbug problem and, probably for similar reasons, I don't detect a soapiness from cilantro but I'm overall put off by "pungent" odors and flavors in food
Stellar video. Fascinating. Thank!
I'm very glad you made that video and came across this comparison. Since I was a kid, I'm passionate about insects and would catch many by hand. I always smelled the stinkbug smell from coriander, which I found odd at first but actually enjoyed in a culinary setting! I never could grasp the description people made of a soapy smell, I kind of got the idea a bit but the stinkbug smell felt like a muuuch more accurate description 😂
I was very excited to see this video, since I only recently tried cilantro for the first time and found it absolutely disgusting! Even before my food was set in front of me at a restaurant, I could smell something very nasty emanating from the bowl.
Reading online that some find it soap-y was very surprising, since I could not pick up on anything remotely soap-like at all-and if fact, soap sounded _good_ compared to what I found cilantro to taste and smell like.
Reading about stink bugs later, however, made much more intuitive sense to me. It did indeed smell like something natural & foul-smelling. Very informative video, thank you!
Me too! I always felt like I was lying when I explained to my mom that some people say it tastes like soap, but to me it smelled like stink bugs and not like soap.
I also grew up where there were sooo many stinkbugs so they are the only things I think of when I smell or eat cilantro.
(Yes I have accidentaly bitten stinkbugs, and the reason cilantro tastes like them is because the smell brings me flashbacks 😂😭)
Yes! I'm convinced that it's just a mindset! I've always loved it, but if I think about it it does taste kind of soapy, which isn't as nice. I think if people focus on the freshness and stop thinking about the soapiness everyone can love it. It's kind of my theory for all food. Spread the word!
@@patitoshore That's the stupidest, most arrogant comment I've seen.
@@-Devy- wow
@@-Devy- I envy you
It is also possible of course, that lovers of cilantro/coriander just simply like the flavour of soap.
YES! Exactly!
Yes, Thrills gum must exist for a reason
Yeah I don't mind it but I won't eat it lmao.
Would that count as Pica?
@@hattielankford4775cilantro is food. Pika is when you are compelled to eat something that isn't food.
I really appreciate you taking the time to actually apply the scientific method.
I have a hard time describing the taste of cilantro outside of earthy but fresh. It's almost mintlike, and it's easier for me to like when prepared with other foods than it is to eat it fresh and plain. It smells like it could pair well with lilac or lavender, it tastes rly good with lime juice when I use it in guac
My own history with coriander could be interesting to you. I grew up with these bugs and let them crawl over sticks and played with them every time I walked in the woods. Sometimes I caught them with a jar and took them home. These bugs are very common here in southern Germany so the he smell has been absolutely familiar to me since I was little.
I first encountered fresh coriander when I was already an adult. And it was probably the first time that I found the taste of a food disgusting and couldn't eat it. Normally I can eat pretty much anything. However, since I was firmly convinced that the taste of coriander was an acquired taste that one had to get used to, I continued to try it until I liked it more and more.
Today I love coriander and use it in almost all of my dishes.
By the way, I never noticed the taste as soapy. I can't even understand how soap and coriander are similar since I don't see any overlap between the smells.
What I find extremely soapy is green cardamon after it has been cooked. I first noticed this in an Indian restaurant where it was cooked with rice. And I love this taste. Maybe as a child I had a bath foam that smelled exactly like that.
When my mother said at some point that my food tasted too soapy, I tried leaving out the cardamom because I was convinced that this must be what was meant.
Up to this point I had never heard of coriander tasting soapy and it was only after a while that we found out together that she had meant coriander.
Although neither of us had ever heard of the soap-bug-cilantro connection, the first time I smelled it, I immediately smelled the bug and my mother smelled the soap. I, on the other hand, despite trying hard, can't smell or taste any soapy smell to this day.
Unfortunately, I can't say whether we actually taste the herb differently or whether we describe the same taste differently.
"Continued to try it until I liked it more and more"
I'm convinced that the soapiness and the aldehydes is all factually true bullsh!t and what actually determines wether or not you like food you didn't eat as a child is your openness to new experiences
If you never tasted the soapyness then maybe you just don't taste what other people taste. I think there is an element where Cilantro/Coriander might just also be an aquired taste, something that is not picked up super automatic. I cannot eat it because even the tiniest amount immediately overpowers any other flavor in the entire dish and I taste nothing but dish soap plus a bit of whatever it is I'm having. Its just disgusting and inedible. So for you the missing piece was maybe just getting to like it enough as you ate more of it. I had that experience with Sushi. The first time I ate it was not great and it was kinda off putting but there was something there and it made me go back to it after a while until it became a regular food I eat every now and then. But its not the same with people that can't eat it due to that soapy taste.
I used to wonder why garlic keeps away vampires until I saw how Italians use garlic deliberately to keep away Germans.
In Italy we don't use cilantro at all in cooking, while stinkbugs are everywhere. Everybody thinks cilantro smells of stinkbugs, which apparently makes it inedible 😂
"apparently"? Do you like stink bugs perchance? If so, I'm challenging you to a duel ⚔️🛡️ (casa mia è infestata di orribili stupide cimici che non muoiono nemmeno d'inverno)
I was confused by what you said, but then looking it up I realized that cilantro and parsley are not the same thing...
I never went beyond pictures before 🤣
@@lilywashere27 I'm happily not a fan of stinkbugs, which means you don't have to die in a duel with me. I do like cilantro. Yes, they smell almost the same, but so do blue cheese and my old socks, and people eat it nonetheless.
@@AelwynMr nice! Now we might form an alliance against their evil treat 🤝 I have nothing against cilantro as a food, and I love blue cheese... I'm just really keen on hating stink bugs
P.S. le persone mangiano i tuoi vecchi calzini? 😂
Ah, Italy: home of my appetite!
As a soap taster, I was first able to really notice the best parts of cilantro in the form of that cilantro-onion-lime relish they put out for street tacos.
The bottom of the container when it's been left to marinate for awhile becomes a sweet herbaceous heaven without any of the ingredients retaining their individually overwhelming "bite."
I love coriander leaf and will have it as a garnish on everything from hummus to gumbo!
All my life I've always smelt this "buggy" scent from cilantro/coriander and now I get to know why. Great video as always!👍🏼
Here in Germany it is pretty common to encounter the bugs. And yeah, as soon as you said it, the similarity between These smells became shockingly clear.
The first time I smelled cilrantro I instantly thought "Stinkwanzen!". Soapy smell would never have crossed my mind. Try smelling black currant plants, they smell very similar.
As a coriander soap taster the simplest solution is just ask for your food without coriander. I kind of get fed up with the way people go on about it, it's not like they're aren't a multitude of different herbs you can enjoy instead. Coriander lovers often act like you are fussy or have something wrong with you for not wanting to eat something that tastes like soap.
We should start a petition to have coriander added to the list of allergens. If gluten and dairy are on there, so should coriander.
At a lot of places the server will look at me as if I just slapped their mother if I ask for food without cilantro.
Remarkably good documentary.
I'm so glad you made this video. I like cilantro in cooking, but whenever I eat it raw, I always feel that it smells/tastes like bugs. I couldn't even explain that to anyone without them thinking I was crazy. Now I know why, and I have solid proof!
i think i have cilantro soapiness but i find it quite nice. at first it was a little bit of a weird tone under some indian food where i was like "that's soap!" but the food was good enough that i didn't really even register it as a negative, and then i grew to like it quite a bit and find it adds a bit of "freshness" (which is, admittedly, a frustratingly literal connection for my brain to make). ironically enough the smell of peppermint makes me retch though
also i feel i should mention: this video is really good!! MinuteFood as a whole seems to work really well with my brain I think, so thank you for doing what you do!
Yeeeah! What a satisfying sense of being validated 😊 at last!! I always said cilantro tastes like stinkbugs („oh no, that bedbug salad again“ 😆) and most people laughed at me :) No, I didn’t eat bugs, but they are really common here in Europe (Ukraine where I grew up and Germany where I live for a long time now). Thus I used to smell it a lot as a child because they flew into the house and we were trying to catch them and throw them out (don’t touch! It lingers on the skin for hours or even days), or encountered tons of them when playing outside. I also „tasted“ them because my grandmother used to have a garden with lots of raspberry bushes - I loved raspberries, but sometimes they tasted like bugs because there’s a variety of small green stinkbug that inhabits these bushes. I always checked before eating berries straight from the branch, but apparently the bugs are so stinky that the smell lingers even if they just sat on a berry a while ago. It was horrible 😳 tasting them, much worse then cilantro 😅😂
P. S. interesting: I happen to love coriander seeds and also do not taste any soapiness in cilantro leaves (I even do not fully understand what kind of taste/smell is meant here). I can eat it, recently had at an Indian restaurant, forgot to ask to leave it out. But I never enjoy it :)) Thanks for shedding some light on the matter! Chemistry is an amazing science 🧬! I also do love your voice, watching Minute Earth too :)
i despise cilantro and ive always said it smells like stink bugs, but fam n friends thought i was crazy until i googled it and showed em about the shared aldehydes. great video, i wish id had it on hand back then :)
There's another layer to this: Many scented soaps use a cilantroish scent. To me, cilantro doesn't taste like I expect a saponified fatty acid to taste (I am not in the habit of licking soap), but it *does* taste like the floral fragrance used in many scented soaps.
I agree! It’s like an overwhelming artificial “sweet” smell
Ok I feel SO VALIDATED. I’ve literally described cilantro for years as “tasting the way stinkbugs smell. Very stringent and green”. And I wasn’t a big cilantro fan till after I moved to and lived in TX for several years. Nobody ever understood what I meant! THANK YOU for this video😂 it’s nice to know I’m not crazy
Thanks for making a video that avoids me to explain something really complicated and looking weird. Now I just have to share a video.
Thanks alot for your video, we learned alot 😊 ! I like cilandro (i didn t knew the english word for it btw ^^, here, it's coriandre), and i 'm totally fond of cilandro's seeds ❤ !
My mom swears that cilantro smells like firefly’s but I love it and don’t smell it.
I have never noticed a smell to fireflies, so that's an extra wrinkle
Idk what firefly's smell like and don't think I know anyone who does. o.O
I so feel like that, where I live these guys as well as stink bugs are pretty abundant. Even though it tastes a bit soapy to me I still love it anyways!
Fireflys don’t have a smell
Insects don't smell, do they?
I have a similar experience with fresh marjoram: I understand that many people use it as they would use oregano, but for me (and not only me) it has a very strong soapy smell!
This makes me feel so validated! I don't quite get the soap taste in cilantro; it always tasted more like bugs. But I do love coriander! It's a mainstay seasoning for my stews. Thank you for your research!
Interestingly, I typically adore fresh and dried cilantro, however... I once got a tube of "fresh pureed cilantro" and it tasted as though I was eating Dawn dish liquid. It wasn't just the scent. The flavor was extremely bitter, and missing all of the usual fresh notes of cilantro.
It makes me wonder if the happy flavors chemically shift into the soapy aldehydes once pureed and left to set for long enough.
Fascinating video. Thanks for conducting this experiment!
When I was a kid, I spent a lot of time around the smell of stink bugs, and I always hated how lots of hand soaps had similar scents as them. It's cool to see that there might be an actual connection in that.
if you like Cilantro try and find Culantro, my mother would make a soup with Culantro and it gave her soup such a great taste.
That's very interesting! I've had a few encounters with stink bugs and the way I would always characterize it is "planty green smell", although I could see it being attached to some types of scented soaps too! (just not as strong)
I am a coriander lover AND a soap taster, sort of. I absolutely love coriander in tropical countries, but many times I tried to buy it from local farmers (Italy) and it was absolutely inedible, like dishsoap mixed with mosquito repeller. So I guess the growing conditions matters.
Same goes for frozen coriander, disgusting.
Those brown stinkbugs are also very invasive here and not once I thought they smelled nice, and I'm also very sensitive to fruits they infested (common in rasp/blackberry).
I have a love/hate relationship with cilantro. It doesn't taste to me like soap but it has a very strong flavor that overwhelms any food i put in, but it goes away when it is cooked and then i love the flavor.
This is amazing. I live in Costa Rica, and there are a lot of different types of stink bugs here. Plus, the local cuisine uses a lot of Cilantro. I love cilantro- and I also weirdly like the smell of stink bugs. I'm not sure if they are exactly the same smell, but I can see the similarities. It's like a fragrant freshness- like cut grass.
Thank you so much for this video! I live in Michigan and have been surrounded by these beautiful little critters my whole life and you are, maybe, the first person I've encountered willing to say how beautiful they are!!! They're 'stink' association apparently prevents people from being able to see that they're also super cute and totally harmless! Growing up, I used to think they smelled like fresh growing apples (FYI, you scarcely smell then without crushing them, it's either a smell they release when threatened, or most likely they got squashed) but in a 'bad way,' like too tart, or too green to eat, more like crabapples. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that i accidentally sucked one into a vacuum and got surprised by a cilantro incense effect that was created, in the room, that I made the connection myself. As far as the cilantro-soap things goes, the genetics are bs, taste and senses in general are not fixed in anyone's brain or body, they all develop and adapt over time. A lot of people don't seem to realize the true reality of the 'acquired taste.' One can acquire an appreciation for most any taste, given that they are willing to have the patience and open mind to developing it. I'm just rambling now, but honestly, I really appreciate this video, my only upset was when I realized that you were only going to be dealing with dead stinkbugs, cuz I like them so much as living beings. They're kind of like silly kids that can fly and don't make noise or messes. They're just so clumsy and whimsical to me. Cheers!
We have a lot of stinkbugs where I live on the east coast, but I’ve NEVER smelled them. I always wondered why they were called “stinkbugs”, when they didn’t actually stink. I’m a cilantro lover, so maybe I just don’t register that smell as unpleasant, so I didn’t notice? Now I’m ready for some bug smellin’ this summer😂
This was a fascinating video! I'm one of those people who think cilantro is *very* soapy, however, I absolutely love coriander.
This video makes so much sense! A lot of things that seems like an impression are real! I've noticed that chopping and resting and also cooking the cilantro changes its flavor. I've already heard that you are not suposed to cook cilantro because cooking destroy its charactheristic flavor and this is wrong 🙄
Anyway, awesome video as always!
My understanding (after Bio 1010 in college and not much more) is that there is a gene that causes people taste the soapiness, if you have a copy from one parent, the soapiness is fairly mild, if you have two copies, it is dramatically stronger. There is subjectivity on top of that, so if you have one copy you might be able taste the "soapy" flavor, but it might not be enough to ruin the otherwise good flavor of cilantro, or like me it might be enough to make it generally unpleasant. If you have two copies, one from each parent, you are a lot less likely to enjoy foods with cilantro. If you have no copies, you are even more likely to enjoy cilantro.
Regardless, whether someone does or doesn't like a particular ingredient due to genetics or just their opinion, we have lots of great things to make food with, so with very few exceptions it is possible for anyone to find food that is delicious to enjoy.
I think I must be one of those with one copy of the gene, because I can detect a hint of the "soapiness" of cilantro, but it isn't overpowering and I don't mind it in food.
Tried the roots too, also nice
I have heard these are great, but have never tried them!
This explained so much about why I hate stink bugs and avoid cilantro except when it’s covered up by avocado in guacamole…a lot of avocado.
My mother cannot stand cilantro because it tastes like soap. I know I can definitely taste the soap sometimes. And, when I first encountered it, the soap flavor was strong. It took me a while to grow to love cilantro. Now it is one of my favorite herbs. I really think that it would be great in a cocktail sort of like a mojito, but instead of using mint & rum, use cilantro and tequila. Eventually, I will perfect this cocktail. But, I usually eat all the cilantro before I remember to try making this.
Can you do a video on celery?
I think celery has something like cilantro where some people describe it as “crunchy water” (so mostly flavorless?) while others, like me, sense a strong anise-like smell that can be unpleasant. I personally think it has the flavor that’s a cross between the way scotch tape smells and anise.
Whats anise?
Also celery does taste like water to me, but it has a faint yet unique smell as well. I wouldn't say scotch tape like, though. Scotch tape only smells of plastic to me, and celery doesn't smell plastic-y. Its not my favorite vegetable, but its pretty good in salads and certain soups.
@@TearfulZoruaAnise is a spice. If you’ve never had star anise or anise seeds, it’s kinda like the smell/flavor of licorice
Omg yes! I was just thinking to myself that raw celery has a strong “fresh” taste and “sharp” smell that is not the same as, but does very much remind me of, cilantro. I hadn’t thought of it before as smelling like star anise, but now that you’ve said it, I definitely can detect hints of it (thankfully it doesn’t hurt my nose like anise does)!
Yes this...!! because celery and cilantro are cousins and for some reason i love cilantro but totally hate celery!
I like celery, but I think I understand the scotch tape analogy. My ex hated it because it was just “crunchy water” but my husband thinks it’s too strong.
It’s funny how different we all can be.
The only time I ever was able to tolerate cilantro was in a rice dish from a South Indian restaurant (Dosa in San Francisco). Their cilantro was BRIGHT green (not dark like typical cilantro), it was delivered fresh from the farm 5 days a week, it was very finely minced, and evenly distributed in the dish.
As someone who smells aldehydes daily for my hobby (and channel) I found this truly fascinating. Another explanation for why they didn't think the bugs smelled like soap may be that there are probably more than 50 different aroma compounds that make up both smells, and apart from the shared aldehydes, they are probably dramatically different.
Coriander flavoured protein you say?
Bosh, I might start eating bugs.
little flash fried cilantro protein crunchies would be nice
These bugs are regularly eaten in Mexico and central America!
Shame I can't get them easily in the UK. They do sound nice. @@FallenSkater1940
Be warned. There's a reason they're called 'stink' bugs.
Funny April Fool's Day video. We all know nobody really likes cilantro.
I love cilantro, never smell like stink bug or tasted like soap. Everyone in my family also loves cilantro. I grow it at home. So I think it does have a genetic factor and a race factor. The people I know that hate cilantro tend to not look like me or come from the same background.
Thank you for this video
I’ve always wondered what stink bugs smell like. I’ve just started seeing them here in Minnesota a few years ago and whenever I see one in the house I gingerly pick it up and flush it down the toilet, being careful not to crush it. Now I won’t be so afraid of the smell. I love cilantro. 🌿
I don't find cilantro tastes like soap or bugs, it's just that it tastes overwhelmingly strong. So having cilantro in something is like dumping an obnoxious amount of chili powder in it or something.
Also I have no clue what "fresh" taste you describe, since people use that word to describe things like celery, which taste absolutely nothing like cilantro. If anything cilantro tastes more like chili powder, though like chocolate cilantro doesn't quite taste like anything else.
No, no, celery is a good comparison. I normally compare it to italian parsley, but Cilantro tastes somewhere between the two, with a splash of lemon juice. It's probably the single best citrusy-herb. I will literally put it by the fistfuls on food in a wide variety of dishes.
That being said, stinkbugs have no real particupar foul odor to me, and I always thought their name was overdramatic. I didn't realize until this comment section that for most people they smell so terrible as to be borderline traumatic.
By contrast, I find cucumbers, something else normally described as "fresh tasting" as being absolutely utterly vile. It tastes like you might imagine drinking a bottle of concentrated perfume to smell. Extremely sweet, extremely bitter, extremely chemically. Cucumbers are easily 10 times sweeter than sugar, and even just a small amount in the same room as other food makes the food completely inedible. If someone cuts a cucumber on the opposite of the house, I can IMMEDIATELY tell due to the overwhelming stench. Nevermind the closed doors. It is so nauseatingly disgustingly overpoweringly sweet like nothing else.
It's probably a different genetic chemical thing, like the Aldehydes in Cilantro.
Something bugs me though. Why did soap change the smell? Did we start to add coriander to it or the bugs?
I mean "did we start adding bugs" not "did bugs start adding coriander to our soap".
@@babilon6097 Soap and cilantro have always had that similarity (at least to some people) - it's just that soap didn't used to be common enough that it was people's reference point for cilantro. Now that it's more common than encounters with these bugs, people have changed from calling cilantro "buglike" to "soapy"!
When I was a kid, just opening the crisper and getting a whiff of the smell would make me gag. After eating small amounts of it for years (mom’s cooking)I eventually adjusted and now it tastes like a sugary, refreshing, and citrus herb. Thanks mom
I love cilantro/corianda. Just thinking about the coriander plant makes me salivate for Vietnamese spring rolls with shrimp, coriander, carrot, sour cream, fish sauce. Very interesting vid. & good research.
As a cilantro hater, I never understood why others call it soapy, until I came across a soap that smelled like cilantro to me (even though it was supposed to smell like neutral soap). So I guess the added scent in my usual soaps just covers this up.
The taste definitely gets closer to soap, but I dislike that less than the smell. That means I won't willingly take a bite of cilantro, but if I accidentally get some in my mouth, I can bear it, although it's still not a pleasant experience.
This makes so much sense! I hate fresh cilantro, it tastes like laundry detergent. But i worked at a kitchen with a cilantro mayo sauce, and it was truly delicious. Probably because it was food processed until smooth and sat for up to 2 weeks per batch
I watch a lot of science and cooking videos, and it is in my top 10 most interesting and favorite videos. Thanks!
One big hint I got from a cooking channel is making a crema out of the cilantro so that it is emulsified, reducing scent, and that would let you make it ahead and of time letting those enzymes work.
I can taste the soapyness of cilantro but its subtle and i still love it.
So I had a stinkbug infestation in my parent's place back when I lived there, and the smell I got was coconut lotion. But I like cilantro. So idk what that means, but I figured it would be an additional data point.
Wow, this was crazy. I'm an avid gardener and these bugs are everywhere. I end up squishing some by accident every now and then and I've always thought they smelled like cilantro. I always wondered why they were called stinkbugs, don't get me wrong, the smell was very very strong, as if there was a whole bucket of squished cilantro, but it never felt unpleasant. But I've also seen a reaction by my brother who accidentely ate one, as part of a nut mix containing pumpkin seeds, and that seemed to have been very unpleasant. He kept cleaning his mouth.
Great video!
Human genetics and our 5 senses are both so fascinating no matter how much we already know or dont know. Theres so much nuances in both topics despite so many people insisting on them being very simple, black and white topics.
I became a coriander lover because of the potential cardiovascular benefits. Since then i have acquired a deep liking for it.
True I used to really hate cilantro because of the soapy taste, I just learned to love it especially when added into a good chimichurri.
I'm a soapy cilantro eater. But here in Phoenix where Mexican food is high on the menu I've learned to shut up and eat. Since I lost some scent and taste ability to COVID it's not as strong as it used to be. Thank you for this fascinating video which explains a lot about life.
I never associated the scents of Cilantro and Stink Bugs, but as soon as I saw the Stink Bug in your video my brain made the connection. Stink bugs are plentiful where I live and I'm quite familiar with that smell. I'm not a Cilantro fan either. Great Video.
I’ve ALWAYS said that Cilantro tastes like stinkbugs to me but i’ve never known why, thank you for this interesting video! 🙌🏼
What a sad deprived existence it is to dislike this Incredibly delicious and nutritious herb.
I live in Central America and love cilantro. We also have stink bugs in my country, and I honestly have never thought that their terrible smell resembles cilantro in any way. Maybe we got different subspecies of stink bugs. In any case, I applaud you for your thoroughness.
Fascinating. Thank you for the video. I get the stink bug connection, but never made the association before. So, that is for that. But I have to say that the wild (not lab grown) stink bugs I have living near me would definitely not be something I’d want on my burrito. It’s a similar smell to cilantro but much stronger.
Interesting about the enzymes! I always used to hate cilantro unless it was prepared like in pico de gallo. But I lost the soapy flavor in my late 20s, now I love cilantro. Though piquant flavors generally also grew on me, so maybe that’s part of it.