It's Paramount the Locomotives are left in situ regarding asbestos contamination risks. Insulation in place around the engine shielding the asbestos will have detoriated and weakened, so the slightest movement would send particles into the atmosphere. Therefore shunting these relics around from time to time isn't optional. Potential buyers have to meet strict criteria concerning asbestos containment. Unfortunately nature then takes over and eventually takes the once powerful locos dignity.
I totally agree with atomiswave 1971 these were decent locomotives now left to rot , i personally think this is a disgusting way our railways are going . Thanks for showing the truth .
They want rid of any old train system diesel or steam to make way for this so called environmentally friendly mode of rail travel called electric, which is just using fossils fuels anyway, a big money making con same as all the eye sore and wildlife destroying wind turbines dotting the landscape. They also wanting everything to be automated with driverless trains (and soon to be cars) where you have no control over them.
When EWS bought 250 66's it must have seemed like WCRC hit the jackpot with a sudden influx of British heritage traction for sale. I can tell you this now... If I were a loco owner I wouldn't sell it to them butchers even if they were the highest bidder. Carnforth station signs should read "Welcome to Carnforth, the place loco's get slaughtered". Lets hope those at Barrow Hill don't meet the same fate, or even get sold to these people.
Very true, I should point out that when I went to BH last year there were around 10 37's, since then 1 was scrapped and 8 went to Booths and 1 made a dash for freedom to Bo'ness. The biggest hope is that when WCRC start to withdraw their own fleet then there will be ample opportunities for us to acquire them. Fortunately while there is suddenly a worrying trend that locos are being sold out of preservation they are making their way to Colas who will at least use them on the mainline.
Thanks Trevor, indeed there are quite a few rotting away though the good news is that 37668 had been overhauled and returned to traffic since this was filmed so there is a little hope for some of those 47s :)
Hello trainnerd, i worked with 08s at Penzance for 15 years, they were ultra reliable, we had 08895, 08641, and 08644, one came from Swansea i believe.
Hi Ian, I'm not sure how many are there now as it has been a long time since my last visit however I do know that several 37s & 47s have since been scrapped but don't have the numbers to hand.
Makes me a bit emotional watching British steel rot away like that. Are they spares or owned and going to be refurbished by WCRC. Up to your usual high standards Phil. May I just ask and not intending to be rude in any shape of form but when can I expect Warrington freight video u. Like and fav Phil.
The locos you see are donor spares. They are essentially being canabilized. The weather seems to be getting the better of them these days. I'm doing a Warrington stint in the not too distant future.. Its one of those stations you really need a guide for since the freight only tracks cannot be filmed from the station.
I would rather know that them locomotives have been scrapped than looking like that, especially in that state such a shame , I would love one of the class 37s I would look after it better than they do for sure, them class 66 go fast for a 130 ton engine, they go quiet fast with wagons on and hopper cars wow the kinetic energy in them things if they hit something at that speed, vaporise most things big trains they they hit something at 75 mph 80mph , good video mate all the best godbless you,
Thanks, quite a lot of those locomotives have been cut up now with 37517 meeting its maker just a few weeks ago I believe. They were kept around as either spares donors or to be restored if required, they didn't look pretty but made for an interesting sight out there in the countryside :)
Yeah, 2/3rds of it went south on a low loader for scrap yesterday, I'm guessing the rest of the rust blew away ;) A sad end but it had given up plenty of parts to keep others going :)
@@Phil6219 They really needed to cut this scrap up sooner. Ok , remove ancilleries like blowers and motors if they are going to reuse them, but cut the frames and the bodies and recycle the scrap.
Since this was taken one of the Class 37s and a Class 47 has been overhauled and returned to traffic, the sad truth is though that some of those round the back are effectively "too far gone" to restore and are used a source of spare parts to keep the others going :/
Those are not Deltic's, they are class 37's your seeing. They are life expired and West Coast Railway bought them as a source of spares to keep theirs running.
Interesting that there no attempt by anyone to buy up still serviceable locomotives and upgrade them to more modern specifications (new emission-compliant engines, operator cabs, etc) but retain the still usable frames and body shells. Sad.
lol yeah, it's about redundancy as they don't want it breaking down en-route although that was more to deal with terrorism fears from when they first started transporting nuclear material by rail...
It's Paramount the Locomotives are left in situ regarding asbestos contamination risks. Insulation in place around the engine shielding the asbestos will have detoriated and weakened, so the slightest movement would send particles into the atmosphere. Therefore shunting these relics around from time to time isn't optional. Potential buyers have to meet strict criteria concerning asbestos containment.
Unfortunately nature then takes over and eventually takes the once powerful locos dignity.
I totally agree with atomiswave 1971 these were decent locomotives now left to rot , i personally think this is a disgusting way our railways are going . Thanks for showing the truth .
They want rid of any old train system diesel or steam to make way for this so called environmentally friendly mode of rail travel called electric, which is just using fossils fuels anyway, a big money making con same as all the eye sore and wildlife destroying wind turbines dotting the landscape. They also wanting everything to be automated with driverless trains (and soon to be cars) where you have no control over them.
Very sad to see these engines left to rot here!!
Come on colas buy them up will you!!!!!
Very enjoyable Phil although sad to see the state of some of them locos. Nice shot of the flasks too. Looks like Kev got lucky with that hoss lol
Cheers bud, Kev gets on well with animals but lets not go there :D
When EWS bought 250 66's it must have seemed like WCRC hit the jackpot with a sudden influx of British heritage traction for sale. I can tell you this now... If I were a loco owner I wouldn't sell it to them butchers even if they were the highest bidder. Carnforth station signs should read "Welcome to Carnforth, the place loco's get slaughtered". Lets hope those at Barrow Hill don't meet the same fate, or even get sold to these people.
Very true, I should point out that when I went to BH last year there were around 10 37's, since then 1 was scrapped and 8 went to Booths and 1 made a dash for freedom to Bo'ness. The biggest hope is that when WCRC start to withdraw their own fleet then there will be ample opportunities for us to acquire them. Fortunately while there is suddenly a worrying trend that locos are being sold out of preservation they are making their way to Colas who will at least use them on the mainline.
Omg last time I was there it was a museaum with Nigel gresley doin brake van rides
Great Video Poor Things!
+Trainspotter Blake Cut these rusting locos for scrap now!
Nice footage Phil,a lot of engines rotting away there unfortunately....Trevor.''
Thanks Trevor, indeed there are quite a few rotting away though the good news is that 37668 had been overhauled and returned to traffic since this was filmed so there is a little hope for some of those 47s :)
Suprised to see the 2 load haul 37s I thought thay were chopped up at Wigan sp years ago.
Why would anyone want to scrap a 37 or a 47 and even an 08 shunter
Hello trainnerd, i worked with 08s at Penzance for 15 years, they were ultra reliable, we had 08895, 08641, and 08644, one came from Swansea i believe.
such as shame some locomotives or rolling stock get left on a siding for so long they rust where they stand :(
That's a very sad sight that is great video though and horse was a nice fella
Hi good morning, how many scrap 37s and 47s remaining here can you reply please many thanks IAN RANKIN 👍.
Hi Ian, I'm not sure how many are there now as it has been a long time since my last visit however I do know that several 37s & 47s have since been scrapped but don't have the numbers to hand.
I couldn't help but laugh when that horse was sniffing that guy
Aren't the chassis and exterior body parts of these withdrawn locos and railcars recyclable? Why are they left to rust?
Makes me a bit emotional watching British steel rot away like that. Are they spares or owned and going to be refurbished by WCRC. Up to your usual high standards Phil. May I just ask and not intending to be rude in any shape of form but when can I expect Warrington freight video u. Like and fav Phil.
The locos you see are donor spares. They are essentially being canabilized. The weather seems to be getting the better of them these days. I'm doing a Warrington stint in the not too distant future.. Its one of those stations you really need a guide for since the freight only tracks cannot be filmed from the station.
I would rather know that them locomotives have been scrapped than looking like that, especially in that state such a shame , I would love one of the class 37s I would look after it better than they do for sure, them class 66 go fast for a 130 ton engine, they go quiet fast with wagons on and hopper cars wow the kinetic energy in them things if they hit something at that speed, vaporise most things big trains they they hit something at 75 mph 80mph , good video mate all the best godbless you,
Thanks, quite a lot of those locomotives have been cut up now with 37517 meeting its maker just a few weeks ago I believe. They were kept around as either spares donors or to be restored if required, they didn't look pretty but made for an interesting sight out there in the countryside :)
@@Phil6219 i love the country side mate and with trains been there wow thats my cup of tea with 37 sugars lol, all the best for 2023 God bless you, 👍
0:31 Apart from the nose end, that beast has rusted completely......
Yeah, 2/3rds of it went south on a low loader for scrap yesterday, I'm guessing the rest of the rust blew away ;) A sad end but it had given up plenty of parts to keep others going :)
@@Phil6219 They really needed to cut this scrap up sooner. Ok , remove ancilleries like blowers and motors if they are going to reuse them, but cut the frames and the bodies and recycle the scrap.
668 is back out ive been on it
ANd 47772 now
All could be saved and preserved for many to see but no just rusting away and,it will be too late for anyoneto save
Since this was taken one of the Class 37s and a Class 47 has been overhauled and returned to traffic, the sad truth is though that some of those round the back are effectively "too far gone" to restore and are used a source of spare parts to keep the others going :/
noooooooooooooooo i see a 33
Indeed but at least 33030 has kept two others going.
Why did they stop these locos especially Deltic ones???
Those are not Deltic's, they are class 37's your seeing. They are life expired and West Coast Railway bought them as a source of spares to keep theirs running.
Interesting that there no attempt by anyone to buy up still serviceable locomotives and upgrade them to more modern specifications (new emission-compliant engines, operator cabs, etc) but retain the still usable frames and body shells. Sad.
Nuclear flasks, and no brake van or barrier wagons.
Yup, not since the late 90s or early 00s I think.
@@Phil6219 Oh well, thanks Phil.
@ 3:25 ............. is that enough pulling power for such a huge and heavy cargo?
lol yeah, it's about redundancy as they don't want it breaking down en-route although that was more to deal with terrorism fears from when they first started transporting nuclear material by rail...
Phil6219 Oh. I didn't actually realize they were pulling nuke cargo. So all that horsepower is deliberate? My comedic sarcasm seems a bit silly now.
It's as if they know.
Such a sad waste of good locomotives that could have been working again
Indeed, though they will have given parts to keep others going, sadly it's the circle of life I guess :/
Poor class 33
When are they going to cut up these piles of old rubbish for scrap?
Terrible environmental hazard to have these lying around.