This movie makes me want to see a film in the MCU where some guy wants to create his own secret organization that wants to control the world, but due to the almost endless secret organizations that already control everything, they constantly hinder his plans. This in turn causes him to use his wits and resources to outsmart and battle the secret organizations, as he works his way to become top dog.
if i was writing a Marvel movie it would just some average Joe with no special powers who decides to save the world by turning all the secret evil organizations against each other, and the ever escalating levels of extreme destruction this causes while all the 'heros' are paralyzed due to an inability to decide which side they're going to intervene in
Also, I fully expected the "underground fight club" to be a "floating fortress". Given how many shitty shadow organisations and superhero teams and hiden continent utopian civilizations exist rather conveniently, I can't wait for the MCU to cave in on itself. Wakanda made some sense in the time it was written. It doesn't in the current time. Also, Wakanda wasn't exactly commentary on race. It was a commentary on humanity as a single race, free of a government as such. Impractical fairytale optimism. That's all. It wasn't so malicious.
Timestamps: 0:00 - Almost skipped | Phase 4 so far 03:57 - Stream format/ Boring Cricket v Boring Baseball - Australia Football rules 13:51 - Entertainment & the worst parts of sports - Ruby/ Football/stand-up 27:10 - Hardcore game versions & balls 35:31 - What does Shang-Chi mean? - Opening thoughts 43:49 - The movie starts |History of the Ten Rings - Another mysterious organizations that has been here all along 57:15 - Apparent power of the Rings - ‘He had nothing more to conquer’/Forest fortress invaded 1:21:25 - Modern day |Valet job - Modern Marvel duologue +karaoke 1:36:57 - Shang-Chi is found/ His history - Razorfist's sword arm 1:51:41 - The letter, Katy's role/ Well adjusted protagonist 2:01:57 - Fight club - Abomination is back, aaaand he's gone to another movie 2:07:17 - Forced to fight his (Incredibly successful & better fighter) sister - Why Shang Chi left 2:24:10 - Why the letter? A film about family 2:30:11 - Scaffolding fight 2:35:35 - Death Dealer intro - The plan: Magical maps, pendants, & the mother is still alive? 2:56:28 - Getting out of prison - IM3's (not) Mandarin returns 3:05:45 - Morris McMuffin & powers 3:14:16 - Escaping the prison - Convenient things 3:22:41 - Different dimensions/ Effects on history 3:35:29 - Driving arc/ Village civilization 3:44:34 - Training time! - Strange revelations 4:06:16 - Final fight begins - Distractions/ Shang Chi and his father talk 4:14:00 - The end of Death Dealer - Shang Chi survives thanks to sudden dragon/ Confronting his dad 4:23:17 - A surprise to no one - Dad just wants to go by soul suck/ Things just happen 4:33:35 - Intermission: A triumph, the best in phase 4 4:38:01 - The climax - Archer trainer is just let die/ Sudden bow ability 4:48:52 - The final blow: Spinny rings attack - After credits scenes 5:01:34 - Future of the MCU - Concerns & predictions 5:14:55 - When this will end - Sludge & Eternals 5:28:38 - The important small details 5:33:48 - >Critical Drinker leaves - Shadiversity's current whereabouts | Stuck in a hotel (& delivery food) 5:51:46 - Superchats start - Unforgiven (& Westerns)/ KongFap?/ Western era/ Slack Jawed massive/ E;R/ Shang-Chi/ Oh Brother Where Art Thou/ Bly EFAP? 6:08:48 - Arrow & Rope/ EmpLemon's Simpsons Video/ For Honor/ FNT Pinable on pizza/ Space Station 13 - Australia problems/ Aunt/ Worg?/ Rag-be 6:17:59 - DCEU v X-Men/ Carpet (& a discussion on best house designs turns into a talk on castles)/ Dough, Donut, I don't know (accents) 6:44:47 - Castles & Bond with the best voice/ Imperial system/ Rugby & Football/ Changes to Shang Chi/ Hockey - Blazing a trail (& meanings) /Car Mechanic market 6:59:07 - Combat sports/ Medieval music genre/ Swords/ Team America trilogy/ Possible sports & Dangerous sports - Nicky Manage/ Malignant/ Bull Sharks/ Dwarf Tossing 7:13:18 - Soft Drinks (& Put Put)/ Are E-Sports sports?(& what counts)/Alt. Monopoly rules/ Shang Chi means/ Phenetic alphabet 7:40:00 - Rags' dad on house designs over the years/ Strange style decisions 7:59:35 - Metroid Fusion/ Chinese characters/ Success/ Wakanda advancements/ Space Jam 2/ Water in Australia/ Portals & Travel 8:23:12 - Cinderella Tripel EFAP Movies?/ Bad & good comedians & Late night hosts / AS7/ University/ 6hr exam 8:38:42 - Current MCU ‘worldbuilding’/ Spider-Man No Way Home - Pokemon balance/ FMK magic of Doctor strange, Shang Chi, Scarlet Witch 8:52:44 - Uncle Ruckus quote/ Katy's apartment/ Starter Pokemon/ Criticize without watching the whole film?/ actvid/ Marvel's Katy/ Shad's book - Rey Final form of Mary Sue/ Buffy likes pineapple pizza 9:09:44 - Netflix Marvel/ Scaffolding/ Krogan v Brutes/ Pink Floyd's The Wall (& Foding ideas - Shang Chi contradictions/ Family/ EFAP's ideas (Deaths in Indiana Jones)/ Sports podcast/ Dialogue in Iron Man 9:28:00 - ‘Hidden Until now’/ Jackie Chan/ Cosmic Chicken & World Egg/ Forest - Charity/ Morris head pillow/ Mandarin could've won/ Wakanda's around the world/ Dimension Tech 9:42:00 - Lion King double feature?/ Played on foot/ Clam/ Ellie (use of bows) - Obama/ Hand Egg/ EFAP 62/ Drinker's Invincible video/ Spider-Man is coming out/ Godzilla 98 9:54:74 - Denis Villeneuve/ Saltwater crocodile or Shark/ Female archeologists/ ATLA on IMDB - Australia doesn't exist/ Matt Jarbo/ (Simpsons)/ Door Dash 10:13:51 - Greedfall/ SW universe/ Guy evaded 4 cops (Australia protests)/ Sword fights - Spotify playlist/ Never ever/ Kingdom Come deliverance/ Westerns 10:31:50 - Ragby/ What counts as sports 10:54:14 - Sunken living room/ Castevania/ (Game glitch)/ Fringy family/ Kiwi accent/ Chun Li 11:09:37 - End of Stream - WIP Rags videos - WIP Fringy video - JLongbone's Latest Gotham High video is out
They tried to take a very street level character like Shang-Chi and put him in a position that’s way out of his range. It should’ve stayed just in one city and been more of a crime story with vague mystical elements. A mix between Big Trouble in Little China and classic Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan flicks.
The early Master of Kung-Fu comics weren't even that heavy with the mystical stuff. There was a lot of waxing philosophical and eastern superstition but nothing involving any real superpowers. I think this was more of a covert race-swap of Iron-Fist if you ask me.
Yes and if you keep the scale smaller then you can have actual of actual Kung Fu fights that makes sense as having tension and carrying the weight of the movie instead of needing to jump it up to some enormous cgi battle.
@@bad-people6510 I don’t know anything about Shang-Chi but I do like iron fist and I agree the whole mystical land with the dragon was stolen straight from Iron Fist. If they had any creativity they could have done something interesting with this obscure character.
@@bad-people6510 I LOVED them as a kid, and they caused me to read Sax Rohmer's stuff. There were such great characters and story arcs! They had Bond-esque adventures and even had "Bond" as a supporting character! I know Marvel lost the rights, but was hoping they might stay in that field, and maybe sub Yellow Claw or Mandarin. But apparently not...
Thanos is the perfect starting point for these puppet master organizations. Half the population was eliminated then brought back. In the chaos of that many organizations could form for a variety of goals. Instead Marvel wants these organizations to just always have been around.
How is it that a random commenter can come up with a better explanation than the so called “professional writers” in Hollywood? Really shows you how uninspired/talentless modern Hollywood is.
I've been exposed to publicly funded German radio on the last couple of weekends. On one of those days I overheard a movie review programme discussing this film. Apparently it is great for advancing integration, representation, and diversity. I was using power tools at the time and almost cut my fingers off from laughing.
Part of why the Guardians movies were so enjoyable was they didn't need to be related to the other MCU movies. Obviously they were connected through Thanos, but other than that they weren't around for any earth level events. I would much rather we shift to just stand alone movies that aren't connected.
One of the things I find most amusing is that the writers evidently didn’t know what to do with Fake-Mandarin and Morris after they fulfilled their purpose of guiding the heroes to Tao Lo. So for the rest of the movie, they just did nothing with them. They couldn’t even be bothered tell us where Slattery went after it was all over.
1:55:00 So basically there was a wasted opportunity to make this like Rurouni Kenshin. The thing with Kenshin is that he's such a good swordsman that no one ever worries about him losing a fight, but rather if someone makes him go full serious mode he might actually kill someone again, and so lose his mind. As an ex-assassin he takes great pains in using his reverse-edged sword to strike without cutting into flesh so he can't kill (unless he goes for head blows or reverses his sword), the one thing that his friends worry about is that someone will use a situation to force him to fight seriously or kill someone. And as someone that the government and other powers call on to help solve difficult problems, he runs that risk of becoming an assassin or wanderer again as he deliberately runs into dangerous situations. The same way that Kaoru is such an important lifeline for Kenshin that she provides (in more than just the direct, physical way) a "home" for him to always return to and belong, Katy could have been that snarky yet sympathetic character who makes sure Shang can always snap back to a sense of normalcy in between having to tap into his past training and stuff. And Shang should have been someone who flips like a switch into assassin mode, but finds it hard to switch back off without Katy's help.
Wish they would've wanted someone like you in the writer's room. But nope, they were too busy making a stereotypical "strong female character" sidekick.
@@RanMouri82 May I add something about this series? Rurouni Kenshin really understood the assignment about how to create a great villain. In the first 10 minutes of Kyoto Inferno, it perfectly established Shishio Makato as a terrifying force of nature who could go any length to get what he wants without fear. His motive was also believable, vengeance against the government who betrayed him. Even in his defeat, he still needs 4 people (including Kenshin) to fight him…comparing to Killmonger “one of the best villain in the MCU” whose motive is all over the place or Darkseid “the big bad boss of DCEU” whose opening fight scene was so shitty that he was chopped in half by fucking Ares, who was killed easily by Wonder Woman. Modern Hollywood doesn’t give a shit about quality storytelling and characters anymore, only mass-produced sequel baits over and over again. Speaking of people challenging Kenshin back into killing ways, what did Killmonger challenged T’Challa? Because if it’s about the ideology about Wakanda using their foreign policy in a benevolent vs violent way, then the later movies really undermined this concept completely because Wakanda, under T’Challa, didn’t do shit to help its neighbors become more prosperous. Not to mention that it’s comfortable having Dora Milaje messing with the other countries’ politics with unlimited jurisdiction because “the Dora Milaje have the jurisdiction where the Dora Milaje find themselves to be” even had the Dora Milaje psychopathically attacked John Walker and Lemar (these two are American envoys) just because these two annoyed them. Hell, actually Dora attacked them first too because one of them threw a spear to Walker’s head. Shishio, however, is a perfect villain to challenge Kenshin because he represents the worst of Kenshin (by being the next Battosai the killer and his sword wasn’t only capable of killing, it’s also capable of putting its enemies in flames). He’s even smart enough to drive Kenshin crazy by endangering Kaoru to make Kenshin wants to kill him and in the end, it was proven that his method of violence ended up detrimental to him. Comparing to Killmonger, the Dora Milaje wasn’t happy to have Killmonger in charge because his foreign policy including threatening the foreign countries which could lead to war…ended up threatening the foreign envoys anyway under the reign of T’Challa so what’s the difference?
Rags understanding of Korean matrimonial practices is bang on. I had to beat the older brother, because dad had probably drunk himself to death long before.
the aspect of serious information being cut off by a random interaction, meant to be funny somehow, is way too prevalent in movies today. Serious things need to be serious, backstory needs to be told. if it's cut off by some dumb words that doesn't make it funny it makes people not care cuz if the movie itself is ok with walking away from the story, the audience will walk away too mentally.
I absolutely agree, these new marvel movies are all just “big jokes” I the sense that they can’t have one serious scene. Shang chi had this problem but externals took it to a new level
I heard that the amount of concussions in American football skyrocketed after they introduced helmets because the players were much more aggressive because they thought the helmets would protect them.
@@abdelhassan5426 It's definitely true. There's been plenty of research proving that people are more willing to engage in high risk actions the more 'safe' they feel. It's called the safety paradox.
the helmets also weren't very good and the players were heavily oversold about how effective they'd be. Players basically thought they were invincible when really they were just slightly safer
Being short is a disability, and as a tall person, it's your responsibility to make sure short people don't get even more disabled by having to look up to speak to you. Doing this can damage their neck. Standing up while talking to short people also makes them feel threatened and unsafe so kneeling down not only prevents them from damaging their necks but also makes them feel more safe. Not doing this means you don't respect short people, you're mocking their disability, you're looking down on them and that's ableist, so be the bigger man and kneel. Thank you.
As a person of lank, I've always identified more with the manlet community. Therefore I am opting to get shin shortening surgery to be closer to my kin.
Thank you for considering my 5'6" disability, and being an ally. Every time I see a tall Chad, I get so jealo.... I mean... I'm soooooo oppresed by the patriarchy and capitalism! REEEE. Short Lives Mutter!!!
2:14:30 "The entire time she was watching. In her own time she would repeat what she saw and do it better." So when Shang got beat with sticks for hours on end she just watched that and her own body got rock hard? (Also, ew.) Or she watched Shang get beat with sticks and then just took a roll down a mountain trail of rocks to get the shit beaten out of her too?
( °益°) "We need a strong female woman to show-up our male protagonist. How do we keep everyone from calling her a Mary Sue." [ ᴼ ▃ ᴼ ] "Preemptively dismiss all critics as misogynists!" |・o・| "Boast that the movie was good because it made money!" ( °-°) "Maybe just not make the character better and everything, and not a total dick?" *( °益°)* "..." ( °-°) "..." *window breaking sounds*
@@vadandrumist1670 That's so last year; we need a strong male woman to show up our male man protagonist for his cis privilege and beat up all the female women.
Small correction: Shang Chi's sister defeated him easily because he refused to fight her. We don't know who would have won if he was actually trying. That being said, Girl-Whose-Name-I-Can't-Pronounce does feel too good at everything to the point that there's no room for her to have an arc. Seriously, can anyone explain what her arc was supposed to be. I remember her doing things, but not her changing or learning anything. I'm not sure why the movie needed her at all.
Truthfully, I was surprised that Disney kept it in their pants that by the end of the movie it wasn't Sister-Chi who had all the rings and saved the day, I was fully expecting at the very least that 5 of the rings would be with Shang-Chi and 5 of them would be with Sister-Chi. Also Sister-Chi full force kicking her brother in the balls is such a weird thing, it felt like such a misandrist move meant to appeal to, well I guess misandrists who would "yassss queeeeen" it up
Shang mightve won. There's a point he could punch her face when they were pinned and he stopped. But at least someone mentioned he was actually holding back
> Panel asks Rags what he thinks happens next Rags: (insane shit he pulls out of his ass because of his expectations) Panel: "No Rags that's already better than what happens, you need to think dumber" How many times did this happen? I'm at 3:14:00 and I swear this is becoming a recurring pattern.
😄 I liked that, but wouldn't be against the idea Rags watching the movie before the stream. Although, sitting through this movie with an objective mind is torture.
Rags: Wait what? Okay, then! Didn't the sight of his son remind him of all the countless men he slaughtered in his conquests? Drinker: Nah... They were fine.😂😂
31:08 I’m from the states, yet Rags is the first person I’ve heard call mini golf “Putt-putt”. The only time I have ever heard the term “Putt-putt” was from a children’s point-and-click game with the main character having that name.
I’m really really hoping that the next team-up movie in the MCU just kinda reveals how little character all of these new (and now old) characters have to the general public. If people see that all of the moments that they love from the other Avengers films (Tony and Cap’s argument, BW interrogating Loki, Tony and Peter interacting with the Guardians, Tony reacting to Peter’s death, etc) just can’t exist in the new team up films because they have literally nothing to draw on, people might realize they aren’t really invested in the new characters. Because despite their different backstories and actions, they are now basically all the same exact character.
Rags jokes can be a but hit and miss, but underrated that he managed to reference both Born Into Mafia and The Last Vampire on Earth in proper and valid context.
There's a theory in boxing that the gloves actually increase the likelihood of long term injury. In bare knuckle boxing the focused was a lot more on body shots in order to protect the hands. But with the gloves there's less concern with braking your hand on the skull so there's much more focus on the head now.
@@BalrogUdun He's a brainlet who doesn't read or check the veracity of the articles he's covering, whenever his confirmation bias kicks in. His opinions are therefore worthless.
Literally was just about to make this comment when I saw yours. To be fair tho, that speed golf mode is amazingly fun with friends and is an upgrade to golf.
I feel like this movie gets praise for its action only because the action in most superhero movies nowadays is pretty lackluster. So when the MCU makes a movie with actual choreography, people are going to blowing it up the ass as the best thing ever. It’s like giving someone who eats dry wheat everyday a peanut butter sandwich. Sure compared to everything before, it tastes good, but outside of that context, it isn’t super impressive.
It's like the Snyder Cut or Wonder Woman. On their own, terrible films, but because of the absolute piles of shit before and after them, they are called "Good films" when in reality they suck just as much.
It’s group think, Marvel is the thing to “like” it’s got flashy visuals and quips, it’s got action, and people don’t think about it and are simply entertained by it existing.
My problem with the MCU’s fight choreography is that they take so many shots all over the place, when it’s like a fist fight or close quarters combat, but my favorite fight in the MCU was the Thanos fight against Ironman and Doctor Strange, it’s focused and it doesn’t take multiple shots to sell the impact.
MauLer: "For Rags's sake, let's do this in order and try not to jump ahead" Shad and Fringy [proceed to avoid jumping ahead by attempting vague foreshadowing that just make Rags more confused than if they'd shut the fuck up]
I feel like Emperor Palpatine listening to Shad and he's just getting madder... and MADDER! Good Shad, I can feel your anger! Give in, let the hate flow through you! So sorry Shad. I feel the same way when I see similar inconsistencies with Semi trucks and operators (me being one myself. )
3:40:30 if I were an all powerful creature that could end all life, sealed behind a door, with the ability to telepathically communicate with anyone, I'd be pestering the villagers daily until they released me. No one sleeps until I'm free. And just be obnoxious about it
@@georgethompson1460 Would that matter? How many miles away was the Ten Rings base while the demon was talking to the father? How many other places around the world did the father hear it talking to him after he put the rings back on? Neither of those are explicitly stated, but head canon can reasonably assume the distance is near unlimited. I don't remember if the mother's sister said anything about hearing the voice, but maybe the villagers have a natural immunity to demon telepathy. Either way, this is just another failure of the writers to account for anything.
Yeah, I kind of thought they were gonna make the Ten Rings themselves be something the Dweller created to facilitate his freedom, and that he could only speak to people who were wearing them.
@@armedraptor5114 No, all that was said about the rings in relation to the Dweller was the aunt asking if he was wearing them again. Nothing was said about any connection between them. It feels like the connection was there in an earlier version of the script, but some moron cut it out at some point and no one noticed.
Hearing about this movie and the magical wonder-land they go to does bring to mind something that I've gotten sick of seeing in Hollywood/modern writing whenever it comes to introducing fantasy in a modern-day setting. There's probably a proper term for it, but it's mainly how the fantasy elements always become so condescending toward modern progress and advancements. The culture is typically always a thousand years stuck in the past, probably lacking a basic plumbing system, yet talk down to main characters or even the entire modern culture they come from. Labeling it as "barbaric" or "primitive", or just the implication that this backwater is somehow much better because of it. Usually as a result of a hack writer unable to bring in fantastical elements that would logically change over time, or show a clear detriment that magic has caused people to stagnate as a culture. Instead, somehow a magical bow and arrow can be seen as better than a machine gun. Fantasy adapting to modern day has been done numerous times, showing how the world would change if magic was involved with the advancement of technology, or how other fantasy races would turn out in such a setting. But that's rarely the route taken, because that'd need effort. It's like in Black Panther, even if it's technically sci-fi, where Wakanda is supposed to be super-advanced but at the same time looks like a third-world country. (Because the writers are racist and think poverty = african culture.) To the point they call guns "primitive" while literally spear chucking.
the biggest issue in hollywood is that it is occupied by talentless people who are high on their own fart! The last original idea they had died 10 + years ago and they have been spending all their time making sure that no one comes from the ghetto that they rose to take their place.
Wakanda derives from Afrofuturism, that is the fusion of 'traditional' African aesthetic with future technologies. I, too, have issues with it, but it is a developed philosophical framework. (I don't recall 'poverty' being depicted in Wakanda, but I could b wrong.) With regard to the broader point. The juxtaposing of antiquity with 'modern' technology is an established concept and, if done well, highlights some of the contradictions in the criterions for 'advancement' and 'development.' I think such contemplation is beyond the writing ability of those at Disney, however.
Voldemort: I broke your wand, Harry! What are you gonna do? Harry: grabs AK-47 Voldemort: What the...AAAAHHH!...fucking muggles...at least I have some more horcruxes... Harry: Luckily I have grenades...
Isn't it weird that the mandarin gives his rings to his son while he's getting his soul sucked when if he just kept the rings on he could have just waited for someone to release him?
The “Watching them and teaching yourself better than they can and learning from mistakes” actually works in one big scenario........ Writing a story better than the writers of Hollywood/Corporations. Technically we have all been doing that next to the lazy, pandering writing of the big corporations yeah? The only thing holding must of us back is money and connections to even get a chance Course I have to acknowledge the LOW BAR, I always have to, that’s where the possibility opens up
It's not a lie that most of us could drum something up better than Hollywood... if you account for no serious creative restrictions (like quotas for Girl Power moments or just plain studio meddling) and no insane time pressure to drum up only a first draft. I think that's the other issue is that not only are they hiring these people who don't have the talent, but they also ask them to shoot themselves in the foot before they even start.
You also have to consider that learning a martial art by yourself requires paying a lot of attention to stuff you can't see by yourself. I'm sure you can learn from watching others but the problem is that you don't have somebody to correct your form. People to spar against can't happen and fighting dummys can't translate well into someone that fights back. You could understand fighting by watching others and mimicking them but you are gonna be shite in comparison to fighters trained for much longer under a skilled master. Unless you are a chain smoking Asian women. Then it takes 3 days Most of the Efap criticisms are just an extension of the one rule that is 'cause and effect'. Characters having a changing without a cause or an effect that doesn't correlate to the cause.
@@-Azure.EXE- In general learning any skill takes way longer, and in some cases close to impossible, without a teacher. It's that whole "unconscious incompetence" thing. Not only do you start out shit at something, but you don't even know what you should be working on to improve. No way in fucking hell is some little Asian girl gonna know how and why things are learned through training, and no one is there to correct her when she makes mistakes. You can literally train yourself wrong. Only in more self-aware movies they would do that... as a joke.
@@afelias Not to mention that a large part of what we're shown in his training includes increasing pain tolerance through being beaten in difference stances and by punching a dent into a wooden dummy and reaction improvement by sparring with multiple armed opponents.
I showed up to agree with Rags on Doordash's workers being sloshy garbage. I have a storm door on my front door. A storm door opens outward. Literally impossible to miss, yet so many delivery Monkeys just leave my bag of food directly in front of the door. This forces me to exit out the back door of my house and walk around it, or risk knocking everything over by hitting it with the door. 50% of my deliveries end up in front of the door.
Football's start and stop action, is what makes it enjoyable to watch. it's Turn based Combat system. allows for bursts of action, strategy, teamwork, then a pause. time management, watching the clock. it's war, in sport game form.
"Are they magic?" - Rags's "Everything is now. There are no rules in the MCU now just convenience." Nora Lum, known professionally as Awkwafina, is an American "actress" and "rapper". Hopefully she goes back to the latter.
1:57:41 I would disagree with saying he’s like Yelena because Shang Chi has been in america for 10 years. So yes, you would expect him to have some residual effects but he’s also been living and coming out of his shell for a decade
47:36 A room full of covert operatives from various different clandestine organizations trying to one-up everyone else made me chuckle a little bit. I’m such a fan of the running theme that all of Rags’ guesses about what happens in the movie is arguably better than what happened in the movie. 4:19:05 I felt that too. Simpler times. I thought I liked this movie.
04:11:00 It's the same dumb shit like in After Earth, where Will Smith is mad that his toddler son didn't help his almost grown up sister fight off some monster.
It gets worse when you remember that Iron Fist trained in Kun Lun another isolated magical Asian city with amazing martial arts training, a Dragon and exists inside Tibet.
Kind of crazy that Rags said get on the bus and Shang Chi is remarkably close to "shang che" (pronounced shang chuh) which actually does mean get on the bus. Laughably, Chi is not pronounced "Chee" in mainland China where they use Pinyin. In Pinyin, it would be spelled Qi. Chi would be pronounced more like "cherr" and means to eat. Shang Chi literally means before eating. No wonder this movie didn't get shown in China. I'd love to see the promotional poster sent with the movie for the Chinese sensors. If they just put "Shang Chi" into google translate the results would probably have been laughed at.
The reason they don't make some of the story beats that make sense is because you cannot have a woman being trained by a man. OR have a man be better in ANY way. They do it on their own because they are amazing. Can't have the archer teach her, or giver her motivation, or give her inspiration...she has to be able to do it because she is just that good.
Her-o: A character(typically female) that does horrible actions/ has evil characteristics but they get characterized as heroic for seemingly no reason. Example: This guy slighted me yesterday after I appeared in his village through a portal and he was standoffish and suspicious of me, and it was annoying. So I let him die by getting his soul eaten by a ghastly dragon when I could have done literally anything to save him. But I didn't. I'm a her-o.
I enjoy the conversations they have after doing what they have to do. We, the audience can learn a lot from them and they can learn from the conversations they have and even sometimes (once in a blue moon) from the chat. Good shit.
2:03:12 bamboo scaffolding on high rises is a common thing in Hong Kong (probably Macao too?, never went there but would assume it might be the case there too), so it’s totally normal they tried to imitate it. Bamboo is very durable material
Shad is to castles, what that tile-lover guy on /v/ is to tiles/tile-like patterns ... “Dirty/Cracked (naughty)”-Name of an image folder on Tile Lovers computer
i mean, you'd have expected that they'd keep the more popular villain and expectations must always be subverted lest people realize you have no actual writing talent....
@@petriew2018 but neither Death Dealer or Razor Fist are popular villains. Death Dealer has only ever shown up in ONE comic where in he DIED instantly. If anything him getting ganked is comic accurate. Tho let's be fair. Death Dealer is also a costume that anyone could wear so he COULD come back.
*Rey goes back in time talk.* Oh... No one tell them about that Lego Star Wars Holiday Special. (If someone did mention it in superchats, I'm not there yet.)
I've got a mate who constantly brings up that we've known each other since primary school but he always uses the year mark, this year a few of his messages to me have included the line "Dude, we've been mates for 16 years, you're the oldest friend I have" but he's extremely political and drives everyone he meets away so he probably gets all his ques from shitty dialogue in films since he can't learn from the conversations he's not having.
If you watch people play chess professionally they move the pieces around the board extremely fast to conserve the amount of time they use. This is an element of physicality as you have to be precise and fast while not moving pieces you don’t want to move.
I've watched your content enough to the point that from the opening of the movie, my spidey sense started tingling. With the way that they open the movie in Chinese, that just screamed "pandering to Chinese box office." And as the story went on, I kept getting a feeling that this was not good movie making. I still missed the whole "yet another secret world-ruling organization" thing, but I could tell that good story telling was not happening here. Glad to see I wasn't far off.
Remember in Iron Man 1, how much of the movie goes by before the first big action scene with the Mk1? And how much of the movie goes by before the bus fight in this? Assuming you don’t count all the action in the exposition dump at the beginning...
What I've learnt talking to my friends that don't think like Efap, is that information doesn't get carried over between scenes. There's no reason to expect or think something doesn't make sense because nothing happened before the frame on screen. That's why people are fine with the overt character lines. They need them to know who they are. Before that it's just a haze of one-liners.
I get mad at doordash too! My family and I ordered icecream and although they had instructions to ring the bell, they didn't. By the time we checked it was half melted. Also I always put in sauces in special instructions and I never get sauces...
Sumo is the best sport. Each round lasts anywhere between 3 and 30 seconds, it's exciting every time. The down time between matches is short enough to get some drinks and conversation in, so the longer you watch as a party, the better it gets. Sometimes one of the large men gets beat so hard that he falls off the ring and onto the audience, and among that audience are some of the most randomly beautiful women you'll ever see.
This was mentioned relatively early in the stream, but going to expand on the idea. Something I would actually watch from the MCU would be if you had a comedy where you have a secret organization building itself up with some sort of generic take over the world plot, and then you slowly find out that one of their members is a part of one of the other secret organizations, then another is part of another one, to the point where all but 1 guy is a part of another group infiltrating this one to sabotage it, with each of them getting in each others way. Then near the end or perhaps the beginning reveal that the leader of this organization was actually from another organization who was sent out to form a fake secret organization to draw in anyone who might actually go and form one themselves so they can control those who would from doing any real harm. I feel there would be a ton of comedic potential, and with the amount of secret always been there organizations in the MCU they could absolutely do it, my only worry would be actually finding a good writer to write it, maybe put James gun on it for a director, as they don't really care much about plot they could actively write contradictions and plot holes into it as jokes anyways, like have one of the members get brutally murdered just to see them come back near the end of the movie, and have all the character actively question it, maybe even have them kill them again assuming they were some other other secret agent, or if they don't want to go that route have them feel up their face and all the different ways you could check to see if they were fake. Basically I can see actual comedic value there if the MCU ever pulls their heads out of their ass.
I was probably strong enough to draw a proper bow when I was a butcher. I rarely went to the gym, but when I did, I was always lifting more than my gym obsessed friends. I used to unload 1400 lbs of pork from trucks by hand and hoist 100 lb bricks of frozen meat over my head etc.
On Awkwafina being an actress: she was in Jumanji 3 as well. She was the thief character. She is still the one character I wish they would cut from the movie though.
IMO she was good in The Farewell, but I have the distinct feeling the director was on her ass the whole time, seeing how that movie was based on the director's own life
An interesting counter to their worries of Marvel dominance is BBC’s Sherlock. It’s much smaller, but eventually the use of “we’re hinting at something great, just keep coming back” writing stopped and a lot of the fanbase lost interest. So it is possible that Marvel either crashes or has to change. Moffat and his crew have continued to get big projects though.
Last night my family finished watching WandaVision. My little brother, 14, bless his heart, questions Mum about Wanda's little moral quandary Literally I shit you not her response is to tell him that he "lacks empathy" and that he should consider that Wanda lost someone dear to her... which... justifies... slavery? I pray she was just drunk again.
I was at the US Open one year in Queens, and sitting in one of the stadiums. One of the players took a timeout to speak to the ref about something that he radioed over to someone else. Later found out that he was complaining about the woman grunting (screaming) from the bigger stadium next to us and it was breaking his concentration
This movie makes me want to see a film in the MCU where some guy wants to create his own secret organization that wants to control the world, but due to the almost endless secret organizations that already control everything, they constantly hinder his plans. This in turn causes him to use his wits and resources to outsmart and battle the secret organizations, as he works his way to become top dog.
I think that the MODOK series tackles this. Idk never watched it.
@@yourarchnemesis8453 I haven’t watched it as well, but I’d rather it be more serious, not really a comedy.
.... Could this be the Dr. Doom movie pitch?
@@2ndlegend125 I wasn’t even thinking of that, but holy shit, yes! That would be so awesome!
if i was writing a Marvel movie it would just some average Joe with no special powers who decides to save the world by turning all the secret evil organizations against each other, and the ever escalating levels of extreme destruction this causes while all the 'heros' are paralyzed due to an inability to decide which side they're going to intervene in
“In Korea if you want to marry a woman, you have to defeat her father in Starcraft.” -Rags 2021
*Artosis liked that*
I see no lies...
Actually angry that none of the cohosts laughed at that.
One of the best jokes from the doggo
@@rakshal132 same
Of course the villain of the story thought he could win over his children by trying to kill them, that’s how he won over their mother
I mean.. that's not untrue lol.
Also, I fully expected the "underground fight club" to be a "floating fortress".
Given how many shitty shadow organisations and superhero teams and hiden continent utopian civilizations exist rather conveniently, I can't wait for the MCU to cave in on itself.
Wakanda made some sense in the time it was written. It doesn't in the current time.
Also, Wakanda wasn't exactly commentary on race. It was a commentary on humanity as a single race, free of a government as such. Impractical fairytale optimism. That's all. It wasn't so malicious.
a triumph that can only be rivaled by a tangerine.
we were in burma, searching.. for the tangerine.
"I am the Tangerine!" Tangerine, Iron Man 3
Some men don't want anything logical. Some men... just want a tangerine.
"What is the point of all those push-ups if you can't even lift a bloody tangerine!"
We are born of the tangerine, made men by the tangerine, undone by the tangerine. Fear the tangerine.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Almost skipped | Phase 4 so far
03:57 - Stream format/ Boring Cricket v Boring Baseball
- Australia Football rules
13:51 - Entertainment & the worst parts of sports
- Ruby/ Football/stand-up
27:10 - Hardcore game versions & balls
35:31 - What does Shang-Chi mean?
- Opening thoughts
43:49 - The movie starts |History of the Ten Rings
- Another mysterious organizations that has been here all along
57:15 - Apparent power of the Rings
- ‘He had nothing more to conquer’/Forest fortress invaded
1:21:25 - Modern day |Valet job
- Modern Marvel duologue +karaoke
1:36:57 - Shang-Chi is found/ His history
- Razorfist's sword arm
1:51:41 - The letter, Katy's role/ Well adjusted protagonist
2:01:57 - Fight club
- Abomination is back, aaaand he's gone to another movie
2:07:17 - Forced to fight his (Incredibly successful & better fighter) sister
- Why Shang Chi left
2:24:10 - Why the letter? A film about family
2:30:11 - Scaffolding fight
2:35:35 - Death Dealer intro
- The plan: Magical maps, pendants, & the mother is still alive?
2:56:28 - Getting out of prison
- IM3's (not) Mandarin returns
3:05:45 - Morris McMuffin & powers
3:14:16 - Escaping the prison
- Convenient things
3:22:41 - Different dimensions/ Effects on history
3:35:29 - Driving arc/ Village civilization
3:44:34 - Training time!
- Strange revelations
4:06:16 - Final fight begins
- Distractions/ Shang Chi and his father talk
4:14:00 - The end of Death Dealer
- Shang Chi survives thanks to sudden dragon/ Confronting his dad
4:23:17 - A surprise to no one
- Dad just wants to go by soul suck/ Things just happen
4:33:35 - Intermission: A triumph, the best in phase 4
4:38:01 - The climax
- Archer trainer is just let die/ Sudden bow ability
4:48:52 - The final blow: Spinny rings attack
- After credits scenes
5:01:34 - Future of the MCU
- Concerns & predictions
5:14:55 - When this will end
- Sludge & Eternals
5:28:38 - The important small details
5:33:48 - >Critical Drinker leaves
- Shadiversity's current whereabouts | Stuck in a hotel (& delivery food)
5:51:46 - Superchats start
- Unforgiven (& Westerns)/ KongFap?/ Western era/ Slack Jawed massive/ E;R/ Shang-Chi/ Oh Brother Where Art Thou/ Bly EFAP?
6:08:48 - Arrow & Rope/ EmpLemon's Simpsons Video/ For Honor/ FNT Pinable on pizza/ Space Station 13
- Australia problems/ Aunt/ Worg?/ Rag-be
6:17:59 - DCEU v X-Men/ Carpet (& a discussion on best house designs turns into a talk on castles)/ Dough, Donut, I don't know (accents)
6:44:47 - Castles & Bond with the best voice/ Imperial system/ Rugby & Football/ Changes to Shang Chi/ Hockey
- Blazing a trail (& meanings) /Car Mechanic market
6:59:07 - Combat sports/ Medieval music genre/ Swords/ Team America trilogy/ Possible sports & Dangerous sports
- Nicky Manage/ Malignant/ Bull Sharks/ Dwarf Tossing
7:13:18 - Soft Drinks (& Put Put)/ Are E-Sports sports?(& what counts)/Alt. Monopoly rules/ Shang Chi means/ Phenetic alphabet
7:40:00 - Rags' dad on house designs over the years/ Strange style decisions
7:59:35 - Metroid Fusion/ Chinese characters/ Success/ Wakanda advancements/ Space Jam 2/ Water in Australia/ Portals & Travel
8:23:12 - Cinderella Tripel EFAP Movies?/ Bad & good comedians & Late night hosts / AS7/ University/ 6hr exam
8:38:42 - Current MCU ‘worldbuilding’/ Spider-Man No Way Home
- Pokemon balance/ FMK magic of Doctor strange, Shang Chi, Scarlet Witch
8:52:44 - Uncle Ruckus quote/ Katy's apartment/ Starter Pokemon/ Criticize without watching the whole film?/ actvid/ Marvel's Katy/ Shad's book
- Rey Final form of Mary Sue/ Buffy likes pineapple pizza
9:09:44 - Netflix Marvel/ Scaffolding/ Krogan v Brutes/ Pink Floyd's The Wall (& Foding ideas
- Shang Chi contradictions/ Family/ EFAP's ideas (Deaths in Indiana Jones)/ Sports podcast/ Dialogue in Iron Man
9:28:00 - ‘Hidden Until now’/ Jackie Chan/ Cosmic Chicken & World Egg/ Forest
- Charity/ Morris head pillow/ Mandarin could've won/ Wakanda's around the world/ Dimension Tech
9:42:00 - Lion King double feature?/ Played on foot/ Clam/ Ellie (use of bows)
- Obama/ Hand Egg/ EFAP 62/ Drinker's Invincible video/ Spider-Man is coming out/ Godzilla 98
9:54:74 - Denis Villeneuve/ Saltwater crocodile or Shark/ Female archeologists/ ATLA on IMDB
- Australia doesn't exist/ Matt Jarbo/ (Simpsons)/ Door Dash
10:13:51 - Greedfall/ SW universe/ Guy evaded 4 cops (Australia protests)/ Sword fights
- Spotify playlist/ Never ever/ Kingdom Come deliverance/ Westerns
10:31:50 - Ragby/ What counts as sports
10:54:14 - Sunken living room/ Castevania/ (Game glitch)/ Fringy family/ Kiwi accent/ Chun Li
11:09:37 - End of Stream
- WIP Rags videos
- WIP Fringy video
- JLongbone's Latest Gotham High video is out
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Trying to bump you up fam! I give a juicy massive thank you for your hard work
You're the real hero
You're a chad
How is this dude not swimming in likes.
ALSO
PIN THIS COMMENT ALREADY
They tried to take a very street level character like Shang-Chi and put him in a position that’s way out of his range. It should’ve stayed just in one city and been more of a crime story with vague mystical elements. A mix between Big Trouble in Little China and classic Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan flicks.
The early Master of Kung-Fu comics weren't even that heavy with the mystical stuff. There was a lot of waxing philosophical and eastern superstition but nothing involving any real superpowers. I think this was more of a covert race-swap of Iron-Fist if you ask me.
Yes and if you keep the scale smaller then you can have actual of actual Kung Fu fights that makes sense as having tension and carrying the weight of the movie instead of needing to jump it up to some enormous cgi battle.
@@bad-people6510 I don’t know anything about Shang-Chi but I do like iron fist and I agree the whole mystical land with the dragon was stolen straight from Iron Fist. If they had any creativity they could have done something interesting with this obscure character.
@@bad-people6510 I LOVED them as a kid, and they caused me to read Sax Rohmer's stuff. There were such great characters and story arcs! They had Bond-esque adventures and even had "Bond" as a supporting character! I know Marvel lost the rights, but was hoping they might stay in that field, and maybe sub Yellow Claw or Mandarin. But apparently not...
Boy gets forced into abusively intense training, his sister complains that she isn’t abused the same way he is. WTF
she has daddy issues is all
Boy beat half to death.
Sister most effected.
It's fine, she watched them train and became better than him
@@cyrus2395 which I guess means she somehow learned to endure pain by watching her brother get beaten with sticks
@@collingreen9517 Naturally. But better.
...Naturally.
Shad and Drinker are staring so condescendingly at The rest of EFAP for not having glorious beards.
I envy Shad's beard, it's quite majestic and very Christian. I don't know what I meant by that so don't ask.
Autumn is beard season.
As they should.
We don't know if Mauler and Fringy have them right now...
@@Сайтамен You can tell by their Beta voices that they don't had chad beards. 😉
Rags guessing plot elements was a highlight of this breakdown.
"You will never get anything good again because people clap for mediocrity"
-Rag's's's
Where is the lie?
-RE8 Village video
Yet he loves RE4
@@RiseReligion Yeah... because RE4 was good.
With how much immense praise these MCU movies and streaming shows get for destroying virtually everything about the universe, he’s darn right
Thanos is the perfect starting point for these puppet master organizations. Half the population was eliminated then brought back. In the chaos of that many organizations could form for a variety of goals. Instead Marvel wants these organizations to just always have been around.
How is it that a random commenter can come up with a better explanation than the so called “professional writers” in Hollywood?
Really shows you how uninspired/talentless modern Hollywood is.
I've been exposed to publicly funded German radio on the last couple of weekends. On one of those days I overheard a movie review programme discussing this film. Apparently it is great for advancing integration, representation, and diversity.
I was using power tools at the time and almost cut my fingers off from laughing.
Western europeans would allow themselves to be murdered if it qas for the sake of diversity and inclusion
@@lukaszspychaj9210 "would"
@@SFTaYZa :0
Germany, like England and Canada, and American public radio for that matter, is in the process of Woking itself to death. Hell, so is France.
@@andrewconrad2859 how do you define 'woke'? 🤔😕
Part of why the Guardians movies were so enjoyable was they didn't need to be related to the other MCU movies. Obviously they were connected through Thanos, but other than that they weren't around for any earth level events. I would much rather we shift to just stand alone movies that aren't connected.
"Memorable. Unique. Good. Dramatic. Things happened."
~ Dunkey
This is an objectively perfect review.
"Games that I dislike are bad, and I will not give them a fair shot to prove it."
-Dankles
"Dark Souls 2"
- Shigeru Miyamoto
These are games about gay wizards meant for gobblins!!!
Quintonius Reviewings.
He's so lazy.
One of the things I find most amusing is that the writers evidently didn’t know what to do with Fake-Mandarin and Morris after they fulfilled their purpose of guiding the heroes to Tao Lo. So for the rest of the movie, they just did nothing with them. They couldn’t even be bothered tell us where Slattery went after it was all over.
2:16:50 I love that Rags' explanation is literally what the comics did.
You'd think they'd use the comics like a blueprint to avoid shit like this
1:55:00 So basically there was a wasted opportunity to make this like Rurouni Kenshin. The thing with Kenshin is that he's such a good swordsman that no one ever worries about him losing a fight, but rather if someone makes him go full serious mode he might actually kill someone again, and so lose his mind. As an ex-assassin he takes great pains in using his reverse-edged sword to strike without cutting into flesh so he can't kill (unless he goes for head blows or reverses his sword), the one thing that his friends worry about is that someone will use a situation to force him to fight seriously or kill someone. And as someone that the government and other powers call on to help solve difficult problems, he runs that risk of becoming an assassin or wanderer again as he deliberately runs into dangerous situations.
The same way that Kaoru is such an important lifeline for Kenshin that she provides (in more than just the direct, physical way) a "home" for him to always return to and belong, Katy could have been that snarky yet sympathetic character who makes sure Shang can always snap back to a sense of normalcy in between having to tap into his past training and stuff. And Shang should have been someone who flips like a switch into assassin mode, but finds it hard to switch back off without Katy's help.
Wish they would've wanted someone like you in the writer's room. But nope, they were too busy making a stereotypical "strong female character" sidekick.
Bro, Rorouni Kenshin is a great series. Even was one of the few anime series that had a pretty good live-action adaptation.
MS-14J Jaeger unit. Noice.
@@RanMouri82 May I add something about this series? Rurouni Kenshin really understood the assignment about how to create a great villain. In the first 10 minutes of Kyoto Inferno, it perfectly established Shishio Makato as a terrifying force of nature who could go any length to get what he wants without fear. His motive was also believable, vengeance against the government who betrayed him. Even in his defeat, he still needs 4 people (including Kenshin) to fight him…comparing to Killmonger “one of the best villain in the MCU” whose motive is all over the place or Darkseid “the big bad boss of DCEU” whose opening fight scene was so shitty that he was chopped in half by fucking Ares, who was killed easily by Wonder Woman. Modern Hollywood doesn’t give a shit about quality storytelling and characters anymore, only mass-produced sequel baits over and over again.
Speaking of people challenging Kenshin back into killing ways, what did Killmonger challenged T’Challa? Because if it’s about the ideology about Wakanda using their foreign policy in a benevolent vs violent way, then the later movies really undermined this concept completely because Wakanda, under T’Challa, didn’t do shit to help its neighbors become more prosperous. Not to mention that it’s comfortable having Dora Milaje messing with the other countries’ politics with unlimited jurisdiction because “the Dora Milaje have the jurisdiction where the Dora Milaje find themselves to be” even had the Dora Milaje psychopathically attacked John Walker and Lemar (these two are American envoys) just because these two annoyed them. Hell, actually Dora attacked them first too because one of them threw a spear to Walker’s head. Shishio, however, is a perfect villain to challenge Kenshin because he represents the worst of Kenshin (by being the next Battosai the killer and his sword wasn’t only capable of killing, it’s also capable of putting its enemies in flames). He’s even smart enough to drive Kenshin crazy by endangering Kaoru to make Kenshin wants to kill him and in the end, it was proven that his method of violence ended up detrimental to him. Comparing to Killmonger, the Dora Milaje wasn’t happy to have Killmonger in charge because his foreign policy including threatening the foreign countries which could lead to war…ended up threatening the foreign envoys anyway under the reign of T’Challa so what’s the difference?
What series are you talking about?
Rags understanding of Korean matrimonial practices is bang on. I had to beat the older brother, because dad had probably drunk himself to death long before.
the aspect of serious information being cut off by a random interaction, meant to be funny somehow, is way too prevalent in movies today. Serious things need to be serious, backstory needs to be told. if it's cut off by some dumb words that doesn't make it funny it makes people not care cuz if the movie itself is ok with walking away from the story, the audience will walk away too mentally.
"so what if it ruins the tone of the scene, cooperate wants their joke quotas filled"
I absolutely agree, these new marvel movies are all just “big jokes” I the sense that they can’t have one serious scene. Shang chi had this problem but externals took it to a new level
I heard that the amount of concussions in American football skyrocketed after they introduced helmets because the players were much more aggressive because they thought the helmets would protect them.
Don't know if that's true though
@@abdelhassan5426 It's definitely true. There's been plenty of research proving that people are more willing to engage in high risk actions the more 'safe' they feel. It's called the safety paradox.
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 that's why, whenever I get an overshield in Halo, all my skill ends up going out the window
the helmets also weren't very good and the players were heavily oversold about how effective they'd be. Players basically thought they were invincible when really they were just slightly safer
Same thing happened in Boxing.
"He stole my name"
"They were afraid of a fruit!"
Make up your mind!
They stole the Ten Rings name and made up Mandarin.
Being short is a disability, and as a tall person, it's your responsibility to make sure short people don't get even more disabled by having to look up to speak to you. Doing this can damage their neck. Standing up while talking to short people also makes them feel threatened and unsafe so kneeling down not only prevents them from damaging their necks but also makes them feel more safe. Not doing this means you don't respect short people, you're mocking their disability, you're looking down on them and that's ableist, so be the bigger man and kneel.
Thank you.
#LongManBad
As a person of lank, I've always identified more with the manlet community.
Therefore I am opting to get shin shortening surgery to be closer to my kin.
@@Shockguey Be sure to donate your shin fragments to a Manlet Support Group of your choice.
With great height comes great responsibility.
Thank you for considering my 5'6" disability, and being an ally. Every time I see a tall Chad, I get so jealo.... I mean... I'm soooooo oppresed by the patriarchy and capitalism! REEEE. Short Lives Mutter!!!
2:14:30 "The entire time she was watching. In her own time she would repeat what she saw and do it better."
So when Shang got beat with sticks for hours on end she just watched that and her own body got rock hard? (Also, ew.)
Or she watched Shang get beat with sticks and then just took a roll down a mountain trail of rocks to get the shit beaten out of her too?
No, she is a woman. She practiced with sword-like weapon.
( °益°) "We need a strong female woman to show-up our male protagonist. How do we keep everyone from calling her a Mary Sue."
[ ᴼ ▃ ᴼ ] "Preemptively dismiss all critics as misogynists!"
|・o・| "Boast that the movie was good because it made money!"
( °-°) "Maybe just not make the character better and everything, and not a total dick?"
*( °益°)* "..."
( °-°) "..."
*window breaking sounds*
@@vadandrumist1670 Brooklyn 99 in a nutshell.
@@vadandrumist1670 That's so last year; we need a strong male woman to show up our male man protagonist for his cis privilege and beat up all the female women.
Small correction: Shang Chi's sister defeated him easily because he refused to fight her. We don't know who would have won if he was actually trying. That being said, Girl-Whose-Name-I-Can't-Pronounce does feel too good at everything to the point that there's no room for her to have an arc. Seriously, can anyone explain what her arc was supposed to be. I remember her doing things, but not her changing or learning anything. I'm not sure why the movie needed her at all.
Truthfully, I was surprised that Disney kept it in their pants that by the end of the movie it wasn't Sister-Chi who had all the rings and saved the day, I was fully expecting at the very least that 5 of the rings would be with Shang-Chi and 5 of them would be with Sister-Chi.
Also Sister-Chi full force kicking her brother in the balls is such a weird thing, it felt like such a misandrist move meant to appeal to, well I guess misandrists who would "yassss queeeeen" it up
to set up the ten rings as a future threat. That's it. Literally the only reaosn
Shang mightve won. There's a point he could punch her face when they were pinned and he stopped. But at least someone mentioned he was actually holding back
@@drunkenmumble Move over, Shang Chi, here comes Shang SHE!
@@TheAdarkerglow Shang-SHE! Now with action kick to groin, so she can dismantle the patriarchy one ball at a time!
Shang Chi's sister is a better Taskmaster than Black Widow's Taskmaster. And even then she still makes an awful Taskmaster.
> Panel asks Rags what he thinks happens next
Rags: (insane shit he pulls out of his ass because of his expectations)
Panel: "No Rags that's already better than what happens, you need to think dumber"
How many times did this happen? I'm at 3:14:00 and I swear this is becoming a recurring pattern.
4:27:22 "Hey look. That might make sense, but..." -Fringles, 2021
😄 I liked that, but wouldn't be against the idea Rags watching the movie before the stream. Although, sitting through this movie with an objective mind is torture.
😂😂
MCU generic female lead:
Sean Lock: I hear voices... But I just ignore them and carry on killing anyway.
Rags: Wait what? Okay, then! Didn't the sight of his son remind him of all the countless men he slaughtered in his conquests?
Drinker: Nah... They were fine.😂😂
@@valentinegonsalves7322 R.I.P. Sean. 😢
31:08 I’m from the states, yet Rags is the first person I’ve heard call mini golf “Putt-putt”. The only time I have ever heard the term “Putt-putt” was from a children’s point-and-click game with the main character having that name.
putt-putt saves the zoo, plays golf
I thought the argument was between the full name "miniature golf" and the shortened version "mini golf".
I grew up in Georgia and we had a lot of places called “Putt-Putt”.
Might be a southern thing and this was also back in the 80s-90s.
In Arkansas it’s called both mini golf and putt putt golf.
Midwest US here, it’s putt putt here. Mini golf sounds strange to my ears. Miniature golf sounds a bit better, but still not used around here.
RUclips getting this uploaded before I could even finish the unlisted vid is nothing short of a TRIUMPH!
I’m really really hoping that the next team-up movie in the MCU just kinda reveals how little character all of these new (and now old) characters have to the general public. If people see that all of the moments that they love from the other Avengers films (Tony and Cap’s argument, BW interrogating Loki, Tony and Peter interacting with the Guardians, Tony reacting to Peter’s death, etc) just can’t exist in the new team up films because they have literally nothing to draw on, people might realize they aren’t really invested in the new characters. Because despite their different backstories and actions, they are now basically all the same exact character.
Rags jokes can be a but hit and miss, but underrated that he managed to reference both Born Into Mafia and The Last Vampire on Earth in proper and valid context.
Shad is fun. More enthusiastic than the rest, but I had no idea funny sword man would have such good commentary
Always listen while I'm working. Gets me through the day quicker. Thanks mauler and co. 👍👍👍
There's a theory in boxing that the gloves actually increase the likelihood of long term injury. In bare knuckle boxing the focused was a lot more on body shots in order to protect the hands. But with the gloves there's less concern with braking your hand on the skull so there's much more focus on the head now.
Imagine razor fist was actually RazörFist, the youtuber. That’d make this movie worth seeing for the comedic value alone.
-I don't really like him- I really don't like him. So him being the antagonist is a-okay with me.
The more words he can chain into a sentence, the more powerful his attack is.
It’s funny because he’s one of the five Shang Chi fans on earth.
@@pirig-gal it’s okay to be wrong
@@BalrogUdun He's a brainlet who doesn't read or check the veracity of the articles he's covering, whenever his confirmation bias kicks in. His opinions are therefore worthless.
I just realized the whole bit where grungy was describing golf but everybody goes at the same time is just the new Mario Golf speed golf mode irl.
That’s what I was thinking too, lol
Literally was just about to make this comment when I saw yours.
To be fair tho, that speed golf mode is amazingly fun with friends and is an upgrade to golf.
EFAP talking about sports for the first hour makes more sense than the entire the plot of Shang-chi.
That's disrespecting EFAP tho...
#EveryFrameAFootball
With the way they were going I was half expecting them to start advocating for the return of bloodsports.
@@vadandrumist1670 Spice it up with some IRL Dead by daylight.
#EveryFrameAPushup
I feel like this movie gets praise for its action only because the action in most superhero movies nowadays is pretty lackluster. So when the MCU makes a movie with actual choreography, people are going to blowing it up the ass as the best thing ever. It’s like giving someone who eats dry wheat everyday a peanut butter sandwich. Sure compared to everything before, it tastes good, but outside of that context, it isn’t super impressive.
It's like the Snyder Cut or Wonder Woman. On their own, terrible films, but because of the absolute piles of shit before and after them, they are called "Good films" when in reality they suck just as much.
It’s group think, Marvel is the thing to “like” it’s got flashy visuals and quips, it’s got action, and people don’t think about it and are simply entertained by it existing.
Simu Liu may be a complete charisma black hole, but at least he's not embarrassing himself at every turn when the up-tempo music starts
@@petriew2018 That's true. He embarrasses himself on social media instead.
My problem with the MCU’s fight choreography is that they take so many shots all over the place, when it’s like a fist fight or close quarters combat, but my favorite fight in the MCU was the Thanos fight against Ironman and Doctor Strange, it’s focused and it doesn’t take multiple shots to sell the impact.
MauLer: "For Rags's sake, let's do this in order and try not to jump ahead"
Shad and Fringy [proceed to avoid jumping ahead by attempting vague foreshadowing that just make Rags more confused than if they'd shut the fuck up]
Nice try bigot, I know your criticism is just a shield to attack the Australians
@@MulletSuperman it's a noble cause. All allegations are dismissed.
Timestamp?
@@tyvamakes5226 The entire stream. Shad is particularly loud and obnoxious in this one, constantly shouting over the others and interrupting.
@@lostcause78 No, specifically when Mauler demanded
I feel like Emperor Palpatine listening to Shad and he's just getting madder... and MADDER!
Good Shad, I can feel your anger! Give in, let the hate flow through you!
So sorry Shad. I feel the same way when I see similar inconsistencies with Semi trucks and operators (me being one myself. )
3:40:30 if I were an all powerful creature that could end all life, sealed behind a door, with the ability to telepathically communicate with anyone, I'd be pestering the villagers daily until they released me. No one sleeps until I'm free. And just be obnoxious about it
What if they just move away?
@@georgethompson1460 Would that matter? How many miles away was the Ten Rings base while the demon was talking to the father? How many other places around the world did the father hear it talking to him after he put the rings back on? Neither of those are explicitly stated, but head canon can reasonably assume the distance is near unlimited. I don't remember if the mother's sister said anything about hearing the voice, but maybe the villagers have a natural immunity to demon telepathy. Either way, this is just another failure of the writers to account for anything.
Yeah, I kind of thought they were gonna make the Ten Rings themselves be something the Dweller created to facilitate his freedom, and that he could only speak to people who were wearing them.
@@DiZtheJedi That's actually what they said iirc
@@armedraptor5114 No, all that was said about the rings in relation to the Dweller was the aunt asking if he was wearing them again. Nothing was said about any connection between them. It feels like the connection was there in an earlier version of the script, but some moron cut it out at some point and no one noticed.
Hearing about this movie and the magical wonder-land they go to does bring to mind something that I've gotten sick of seeing in Hollywood/modern writing whenever it comes to introducing fantasy in a modern-day setting. There's probably a proper term for it, but it's mainly how the fantasy elements always become so condescending toward modern progress and advancements.
The culture is typically always a thousand years stuck in the past, probably lacking a basic plumbing system, yet talk down to main characters or even the entire modern culture they come from. Labeling it as "barbaric" or "primitive", or just the implication that this backwater is somehow much better because of it.
Usually as a result of a hack writer unable to bring in fantastical elements that would logically change over time, or show a clear detriment that magic has caused people to stagnate as a culture. Instead, somehow a magical bow and arrow can be seen as better than a machine gun. Fantasy adapting to modern day has been done numerous times, showing how the world would change if magic was involved with the advancement of technology, or how other fantasy races would turn out in such a setting. But that's rarely the route taken, because that'd need effort.
It's like in Black Panther, even if it's technically sci-fi, where Wakanda is supposed to be super-advanced but at the same time looks like a third-world country. (Because the writers are racist and think poverty = african culture.) To the point they call guns "primitive" while literally spear chucking.
but modern world bad.
Yeah, im kinda tired of it too. You can make interesting things with it, but it tends to not be the case.
the biggest issue in hollywood is that it is occupied by talentless people who are high on their own fart! The last original idea they had died 10 + years ago and they have been spending all their time making sure that no one comes from the ghetto that they rose to take their place.
Wakanda derives from Afrofuturism, that is the fusion of 'traditional' African aesthetic with future technologies. I, too, have issues with it, but it is a developed philosophical framework. (I don't recall 'poverty' being depicted in Wakanda, but I could b wrong.) With regard to the broader point. The juxtaposing of antiquity with 'modern' technology is an established concept and, if done well, highlights some of the contradictions in the criterions for 'advancement' and 'development.' I think such contemplation is beyond the writing ability of those at Disney, however.
Voldemort: I broke your wand, Harry! What are you gonna do?
Harry: grabs AK-47
Voldemort: What the...AAAAHHH!...fucking muggles...at least I have some more horcruxes...
Harry: Luckily I have grenades...
Isn't it weird that the mandarin gives his rings to his son while he's getting his soul sucked when if he just kept the rings on he could have just waited for someone to release him?
The “Watching them and teaching yourself better than they can and learning from mistakes” actually works in one big scenario........
Writing a story better than the writers of Hollywood/Corporations. Technically we have all been doing that next to the lazy, pandering writing of the big corporations yeah? The only thing holding must of us back is money and connections to even get a chance
Course I have to acknowledge the LOW BAR, I always have to, that’s where the possibility opens up
It's not a lie that most of us could drum something up better than Hollywood... if you account for no serious creative restrictions (like quotas for Girl Power moments or just plain studio meddling) and no insane time pressure to drum up only a first draft.
I think that's the other issue is that not only are they hiring these people who don't have the talent, but they also ask them to shoot themselves in the foot before they even start.
You also have to consider that learning a martial art by yourself requires paying a lot of attention to stuff you can't see by yourself. I'm sure you can learn from watching others but the problem is that you don't have somebody to correct your form. People to spar against can't happen and fighting dummys can't translate well into someone that fights back. You could understand fighting by watching others and mimicking them but you are gonna be shite in comparison to fighters trained for much longer under a skilled master. Unless you are a chain smoking Asian women. Then it takes 3 days
Most of the Efap criticisms are just an extension of the one rule that is 'cause and effect'. Characters having a changing without a cause or an effect that doesn't correlate to the cause.
@@-Azure.EXE- In general learning any skill takes way longer, and in some cases close to impossible, without a teacher.
It's that whole "unconscious incompetence" thing. Not only do you start out shit at something, but you don't even know what you should be working on to improve. No way in fucking hell is some little Asian girl gonna know how and why things are learned through training, and no one is there to correct her when she makes mistakes. You can literally train yourself wrong. Only in more self-aware movies they would do that... as a joke.
afelias
“We trained him wrong, as a joke”
@@afelias Not to mention that a large part of what we're shown in his training includes increasing pain tolerance through being beaten in difference stances and by punching a dent into a wooden dummy and reaction improvement by sparring with multiple armed opponents.
Unlike Marvel, we are in our...what, 3rd? 5th? stage in EFAP, and the consistency, characters, world building, lore, and quality is still here.
I showed up to agree with Rags on Doordash's workers being sloshy garbage. I have a storm door on my front door. A storm door opens outward. Literally impossible to miss, yet so many delivery Monkeys just leave my bag of food directly in front of the door. This forces me to exit out the back door of my house and walk around it, or risk knocking everything over by hitting it with the door. 50% of my deliveries end up in front of the door.
Football's start and stop action, is what makes it enjoyable to watch. it's Turn based Combat system. allows for bursts of action, strategy, teamwork, then a pause. time management, watching the clock. it's war, in sport game form.
Stop calling it football. Football is a thing already. Call it American Handegg.
@@davidwilson6577 no.
@davidwilson6577 it isn't just American stop being so short sighted (/s)
Most sports were made as a substitute for war of different forms i thought.
This is my favorite cast of people for an EFAP
Edit: this is 90% of my favorite cast. We need mootal
I just miss Mootal :(
Im telling Jay
@@saintlucus2359 he already has been kicked.
The original EFAP Movies DC arc cast is the best
@@spartansquid5931 that's true. Very true
"Are they magic?" - Rags's
"Everything is now. There are no rules in the MCU now just convenience."
Nora Lum, known professionally as Awkwafina, is an American "actress" and "rapper". Hopefully she goes back to the latter.
Hey she was good in The Farewell. And that's it iirc
1:57:41 I would disagree with saying he’s like Yelena because Shang Chi has been in america for 10 years. So yes, you would expect him to have some residual effects but he’s also been living and coming out of his shell for a decade
47:36 A room full of covert operatives from various different clandestine organizations trying to one-up everyone else made me chuckle a little bit.
I’m such a fan of the running theme that all of Rags’ guesses about what happens in the movie is arguably better than what happened in the movie.
4:19:05 I felt that too. Simpler times.
I thought I liked this movie.
My favourite part of this movie was the gambling ads floating around the screen
"That man (Timothy Dalton) needs to play more villains. He's perfect for it." -Mauler
Line up The Rocketeer for EFAP.
04:11:00 It's the same dumb shit like in After Earth, where Will Smith is mad that his toddler son didn't help his almost grown up sister fight off some monster.
It gets worse when you remember that Iron Fist trained in Kun Lun another isolated magical Asian city with amazing martial arts training, a Dragon and exists inside Tibet.
"Exists inside Tibet" and that's why we're *never* going back.
Shang Chi is like a combination of Iron fist and Ninja assassin
Kind of crazy that Rags said get on the bus and Shang Chi is remarkably close to "shang che" (pronounced shang chuh) which actually does mean get on the bus. Laughably, Chi is not pronounced "Chee" in mainland China where they use Pinyin. In Pinyin, it would be spelled Qi. Chi would be pronounced more like "cherr" and means to eat. Shang Chi literally means before eating. No wonder this movie didn't get shown in China. I'd love to see the promotional poster sent with the movie for the Chinese sensors. If they just put "Shang Chi" into google translate the results would probably have been laughed at.
The reason they don't make some of the story beats that make sense is because you cannot have a woman being trained by a man. OR have a man be better in ANY way. They do it on their own because they are amazing. Can't have the archer teach her, or giver her motivation, or give her inspiration...she has to be able to do it because she is just that good.
Fittingly Rags "Nay More" bit is very Norm-y. Macdonald that is.
Her-o: A character(typically female) that does horrible actions/ has evil characteristics but they get characterized as heroic for seemingly no reason.
Example:
This guy slighted me yesterday after I appeared in his village through a portal and he was standoffish and suspicious of me, and it was annoying. So I let him die by getting his soul eaten by a ghastly dragon when I could have done literally anything to save him. But I didn't.
I'm a her-o.
*I'M A WOOMAAAAN*
@@HerohammerStudios *HERE I AM*
Is that a legitimate word?
I took two pages of notes when I saw this. Literally every thing you guys are covering point by point.
When they mentioned Halloween i almost had a heart attack. It's already been an entire year since Amnesia Stillbirth? Jesus christ time flies
I enjoy the conversations they have after doing what they have to do. We, the audience can learn a lot from them and they can learn from the conversations they have and even sometimes (once in a blue moon) from the chat. Good shit.
I can’t watch this until headmetwall makes a time stamp comment :’( I’m addicted to them XD
I need it because of the digressions, tangents and the endless preamble about nothing in the beginning.
Headmetwall is the hero of efap
Why isn’t this sh*t related to The Hand, Iron Fist, K’un-Lun, and the Dragons Shou-Lao & Fin Fang Foom?
"Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" is actually a sequel to the critically acclaimed "Max Magician and the Legend of the Rings"
I'm happy I'm not only the one who thinks of Max Magician every time I see that title XD.
Is your pfp a original character or something you made.
@@yuannick9578
I did draw it, but the character is Suzuhara Lulu.
I thought it was a sequel to "Tom and Jerry and the Magic Ring."
My first thought through out the movie is "should I care about this unimportant story?" My second was "this should have just been a jet lee movie"
An Efap Movie Review up in less than 12 hours? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
This'll take me about a month to watch.
2:03:12 bamboo scaffolding on high rises is a common thing in Hong Kong (probably Macao too?, never went there but would assume it might be the case there too), so it’s totally normal they tried to imitate it. Bamboo is very durable material
That's bother me to in this fantasy movies where you have Towns in the middle of nowhere. Towns should always have villages and farmlands all around.
Shad is to castles, what that tile-lover guy on /v/ is to tiles/tile-like patterns
...
“Dirty/Cracked (naughty)”-Name of an image folder on Tile Lovers computer
It's odd that they would waste Death Dealer and keep Razorfist.
I feel like Razorfist feels out of place in this movie.
Razorfist: God-FUCKING-speed!
I agree. I was especially confused when he began spinning on a chair, middle fingers erect, while shouting about how right he was.
i mean, you'd have expected that they'd keep the more popular villain
and expectations must always be subverted lest people realize you have no actual writing talent....
@@petriew2018 but neither Death Dealer or Razor Fist are popular villains. Death Dealer has only ever shown up in ONE comic where in he DIED instantly. If anything him getting ganked is comic accurate. Tho let's be fair. Death Dealer is also a costume that anyone could wear so he COULD come back.
16:30 American football is stop and go because it's a battle of attrition, it's like a war.
5:36:25 Drinker forgot to say "go away now" 😞😞😞 why? what the heck!
He was drunk... poor guy. Peace be upon his liver.
@@JewishFrog
Plot twist: He has the power to be drunk without actually drinking
Rag's raging on Door Dash made me giggle. Weaponizing his EFAPness toward a real world problem was just....right.
*Rey goes back in time talk.* Oh... No one tell them about that Lego Star Wars Holiday Special. (If someone did mention it in superchats, I'm not there yet.)
Where did you learn the Kung Fu of gods? ON A FARM?!
All good Spuarts train with The Don on a farm.
I've got a mate who constantly brings up that we've known each other since primary school but he always uses the year mark, this year a few of his messages to me have included the line "Dude, we've been mates for 16 years, you're the oldest friend I have" but he's extremely political and drives everyone he meets away so he probably gets all his ques from shitty dialogue in films since he can't learn from the conversations he's not having.
If you watch people play chess professionally they move the pieces around the board extremely fast to conserve the amount of time they use. This is an element of physicality as you have to be precise and fast while not moving pieces you don’t want to move.
I was introduced to the ten rings through the iron man tv series, so I was confused to see them essentially be power rangers weapon's
I've watched your content enough to the point that from the opening of the movie, my spidey sense started tingling. With the way that they open the movie in Chinese, that just screamed "pandering to Chinese box office." And as the story went on, I kept getting a feeling that this was not good movie making. I still missed the whole "yet another secret world-ruling organization" thing, but I could tell that good story telling was not happening here.
Glad to see I wasn't far off.
OOOH Shads here. Delightful. hope you review his movie when he finishs making it
Remember in Iron Man 1, how much of the movie goes by before the first big action scene with the Mk1? And how much of the movie goes by before the bus fight in this? Assuming you don’t count all the action in the exposition dump at the beginning...
What I've learnt talking to my friends that don't think like Efap, is that information doesn't get carried over between scenes. There's no reason to expect or think something doesn't make sense because nothing happened before the frame on screen. That's why people are fine with the overt character lines. They need them to know who they are. Before that it's just a haze of one-liners.
I'm coming to the realization that the first two acts of Shang Chi are comparable to Ninja Assassin
EFAP: A Unprecedented Triumph
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Unlike Marvel, we are in our...what, 3rd? 5th? stage in EFAP, and the consistency, characters, world building, lore, and quality is still here.
6:57:17..mauler I learned that from fight club… in the industry, we call them cigarette bones
I’ve been waiting for this for a few weeks now… excitement commencing!
I get mad at doordash too! My family and I ordered icecream and although they had instructions to ring the bell, they didn't. By the time we checked it was half melted. Also I always put in sauces in special instructions and I never get sauces...
Sumo is the best sport.
Each round lasts anywhere between 3 and 30 seconds, it's exciting every time. The down time between matches is short enough to get some drinks and conversation in, so the longer you watch as a party, the better it gets.
Sometimes one of the large men gets beat so hard that he falls off the ring and onto the audience, and among that audience are some of the most randomly beautiful women you'll ever see.
And nobody gets bloody. Sumo has all the excitement, strategy and statistics as UFC, but is soaked in respect and tradition.
A few times they get busted faces here and there.
But it's probably once or twice a tournament at most.
Guess I know what I’m looking up later
Can we all acknowledge that "Marvel's Katy" wasn't a thing until this?
She's like the MCU version of fetch.
This was mentioned relatively early in the stream, but going to expand on the idea. Something I would actually watch from the MCU would be if you had a comedy where you have a secret organization building itself up with some sort of generic take over the world plot, and then you slowly find out that one of their members is a part of one of the other secret organizations, then another is part of another one, to the point where all but 1 guy is a part of another group infiltrating this one to sabotage it, with each of them getting in each others way. Then near the end or perhaps the beginning reveal that the leader of this organization was actually from another organization who was sent out to form a fake secret organization to draw in anyone who might actually go and form one themselves so they can control those who would from doing any real harm.
I feel there would be a ton of comedic potential, and with the amount of secret always been there organizations in the MCU they could absolutely do it, my only worry would be actually finding a good writer to write it, maybe put James gun on it for a director, as they don't really care much about plot they could actively write contradictions and plot holes into it as jokes anyways, like have one of the members get brutally murdered just to see them come back near the end of the movie, and have all the character actively question it, maybe even have them kill them again assuming they were some other other secret agent, or if they don't want to go that route have them feel up their face and all the different ways you could check to see if they were fake.
Basically I can see actual comedic value there if the MCU ever pulls their heads out of their ass.
I was probably strong enough to draw a proper bow when I was a butcher. I rarely went to the gym, but when I did, I was always lifting more than my gym obsessed friends. I used to unload 1400 lbs of pork from trucks by hand and hoist 100 lb bricks of frozen meat over my head etc.
"Real content has never been tried before."
- Hasan "Chicken Nuggie-Tested, Mother Approved" Piker
Also known as cenk’s nephew
That guy doesn't know the difference between content and popcorn.
I'm sure he eats crayons and Tide Pods unironically for breakfast.
@@valentinegonsalves7322
"Dude you are like... You know... You... Dude... You are aaaaaa... STUPID!"
~ Hasan Piker
Did you know Hasan used to date a porn star? I’m not totally sure what that says about him but it can’t be anything good.
@@Garrus1995 He's just being a good communist and intellectual.
On Awkwafina being an actress: she was in Jumanji 3 as well. She was the thief character.
She is still the one character I wish they would cut from the movie though.
But I’ll be honest with you: I would do her.
I am irrationally upset. It is newmanji 2. Leave the first one alone and away from these inferior clones
I don’t think you really would’ve lost anything important if you cut Awkwafina out of this movie.
IMO she was good in The Farewell, but I have the distinct feeling the director was on her ass the whole time, seeing how that movie was based on the director's own life
An interesting counter to their worries of Marvel dominance is BBC’s Sherlock. It’s much smaller, but eventually the use of “we’re hinting at something great, just keep coming back” writing stopped and a lot of the fanbase lost interest. So it is possible that Marvel either crashes or has to change. Moffat and his crew have continued to get big projects though.
RE: Hotel Quarantine, I take it if you don't actually have money to pay for that they take you to gaol afterwoulds for bankruptcy?
I'd never heard of Awkwafina until now. From the pronunciation of her name I just assumed she was a famous horse.
I love how the Long Man who’s from the home of the Welsh Longbow, is not the one with the aneurysm.
Last night my family finished watching WandaVision. My little brother, 14, bless his heart, questions Mum about Wanda's little moral quandary
Literally I shit you not her response is to tell him that he "lacks empathy" and that he should consider that Wanda lost someone dear to her... which... justifies... slavery?
I pray she was just drunk again.
Is your Mum under 41 years of age [a millennial]?
Pathological empathy is a hell of a drug.
Like that guy who's daughter got killed and he talks about Mexican food in his public statement.
damn, just wow. we truly live in a society.
Did you mention that was insane of her to say and that losing someone dear to you doesn't justify torturing an entire town of people for weeks?
@@brofist1959 I chided her in passing, but reasoning with her is worthless
Efap: *Describing the new Mario Golf*
Me who didn’t make it to the stream:
I was at the US Open one year in Queens, and sitting in one of the stadiums. One of the players took a timeout to speak to the ref about something that he radioed over to someone else. Later found out that he was complaining about the woman grunting (screaming) from the bigger stadium next to us and it was breaking his concentration