How Good Were The Chicago Bulls BEFORE Jordan Arrived?
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- It seems like when we talk about the history of the Chicago Bulls, we usually begin at the Michael Jordan era. However, the Bulls have been around since 1966 and were pretty successful before Jordan got drafted in 1984. How good were they? And which players did they have? Hope you enjoy!
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Mans just told that depressing ass story with a long moment of silence and followed it with “ANYWAYS” you have a cold heart Andy
hahaha
Lmao😂💀
Doug Less How bro it’s just a basketball video 😭💀
InThePaint if you look him up on wiki he apparently is all good now, married and got rid of his stutter and is working for the hulls
@@BoostBlix that's great news
This video was about the Bulls but now I can’t stop feeling bad about Bob Love 😢
He lived in the same neighborhood I grew up in. South side of Chicago suburb (justice). He would give motivational speeches to the schools in the community.
Things improved. He was washing dishes for Nordstrom when management recognized him. They got him speech therapy and moved him into PR. It is amazing what a difference a good manager can make in the world.
Pre-Jordan Bulls is like pre-Wilt, pre-Russell NBA: nothing much is known and almost everything is overlooked
He should do a video on those teams
What is there about the 50s to overlook😂
Artis Gilmore was the truth
Facts, those Sloan, Gilmore, Bob Love teams...
Lakers has already won 5 chips
I wanna hug Bob Love after his story.
He need some love
james bond I see what you did there
Sameeee
He's a cool guy.
His wife was wrong for not wanting to be married to him.
Man, it's just kind of weird for me to see "Bulls" on anything but the red jerseys of '84 till now haha
I always think of the white jerseys haha
Those old school Chicago jerseys with the cursive writing were bad ASF, but I personally loved the black with red pinstripes jerseys of later years. I had the number 91 Dennis Rodman jersey in high school.
EnarTogo facts, it’s like the old green Dallas jerseys
m.ruclips.net/video/ykAR8u41UA0/видео.html, if u like nba content
@@davidstone9154 Literally all facts
lmao same
Bob Love has an amazing story that more people need to hear about. The Bulls organization really should market these players of the pre Jordan era as the history is fantastic.
Theus May have dated Jordan’s wife.
Mj: That’s all I needed that made it personal for me
"I said fine, that's how you wanna do it?"
And MJ made sure no one will remember the players before he joined.
Yet he been divorced from Juanita and cheated left and right when he was married to her
@TheRealist 811 And them as a rookie Jordan put 43,8,6,2 on Theas, and procede to average 40 ppg on him for the rest of Theas's Career.
You should have talked more about artis gilmore, you lacked at his part.
yeah man needs more recognition
True about Gilmore but he didn't even mention Orlando Wooldridge
@@artax7438 yup forgot to mention woolridge
@@artax7438 Yeah Woolridge was a monster!!!
Those early 70's Bulls teams were extremely underrated, so many stars on the same team.
Jerry Sloan
Bob Boozer
Chet Walker
Bob Love
Norm Van Lier
Tom Boerwinkle
Bob Weiss
Clifford Ray
But alotta then we’re out of their prime.
Bikram Bal The first 6 I named were in their prime.
Cad Chamberlain I know but the others weren’t. Too bad they didn’t get much sucess.
Artis Gilmore?
Nate Thurmond
Poor Bob Love...truly tragic my heart hurt when I heard that.
For sure
RIP Jerry Sloan!
Steve Kerr wasn’t even a top 8 on his own team
thatboy dre yea he was on that team he was like 6
Lol
LOL. That's exactly what I was gonna say. Maybe 8th, maybe.
He won't even be a part of 12 players of all time great Chicago bulls
How dare you disrespect the great Steve Kerr lol
Love, Sloan, Van Lier, Chet Walker, Artis Gilmore... these guys were so much fun to watch, one of the most passionate group of team players in NBA history. Bob Love and Chet Walker were right behind Michael and Scotty as a Bulls dynamic duo. Sloan and Van Lier were a very close third
Yes, those were great, I loved the 1970s Bulls. But, IMO Van Lier cost us at least one NBA championship - that 7 game series against Rick Barry's Golden State Warriors. Van Lier just couldn't score. Sure he was tough on defense, but IMO I was a better pure outside shooter, and had more effective offensive moves. Van Lier would just drive the lane, then get caught up off his feat, couldn't get the shot off and then through bad passes.
In that best of 3 series against Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas NBA Championship Portland Trailblazers 1977, our Bulls lost a very closely fought 2-1 series. Van Lier was something like 3 -20 from the field. John Mengelt was much better, Wilber Holland was scoring and Mickey Johnson had an AMAZING series. Artist Gilmore played Walton at least even.
Oh, THAT Wirtz family. Considering how badly "Dollar Bill" ran the Blackhawks during that time period, it's a good thing they ultimately sold the Bulls to Jerry Reinsdorf.
facts
The current Blackhawks owner Rocky Wirtz is running the Blackhawks much better than his daddy which is something good that came out of the Wirtz family
@@goldensteeltv8546 Imagine if Rocky inherited the Bulls in ‘07, his handling of the DRose era probably would’ve been very different.
When you hear those guitar strings at 1:53. You know things are about to go down as you watch yet another masterpiece from Andy.
And makes you ask why he doesn’t have 500k+ subscribers
Because he hasn't been around long enough, he's easily getting there though, his channel is still doing super well
Mr top 5
2 years ago was his first video
Bob Love needs some love after what happened to him 💔
fr
That’s why you marry the right one even if it takes forever
1975 Bulls were one game away from the Finals.
They fell short to the Ricky Barry led Golden State Warriors
Do how good was zydrunas ilgauskas actually
Good enough to make an all star team
The only bright spot for Lebron when he was carrying those Cavaliers teams and The Land in the league and overcoming the trash front office and owner, sadly he got mostly the crippled years from Zydrunas while Lebron was mostly very young, and definitely he couldn't have done much to help 22 years Lebron, when he went all the way to face those Spurs dynasty teams and in their prime, even if he played good.
Most importantly though, he was the best friend of his in those teams, and the only one player/veteran in the beginning locker room and Cleveland days, when the kid was given the mission to save and lead everything, to talk and help Lebron. When Lebron departed Big Z followed him, they went together to the Heat before him retiring (of course Lebron attended his jersey retirement ceremony in Cleveland, I wonder how they'll look when it'll be Lebron's turn and old Big Z will be there).
Underrated bromance, especially iconic ''ethnicities bromance'' of course.
Dusk TheHunter I wish he would’ve stayed one more year and gotten a ring
And don't forget Dick Motta also, the great coach who led the Bulls into relevance at those 70s early days and set a solid foundation for this great franchise!
Bob Love’s son was actually my Drivers Ed teacher in high school
Far out lol
I wonder if Andy Hoops can do a story of Bob Love. His story is very interesting and very tragic
How good was Mitch Richmond a efficient scoring machine in his prime in the 90s.
Glen Rice too
@@utubebroadcaster sharif abdul rahim
Yea but shouldn't be hof
I wouldn't call 24ppg on 45% an efficient scoring machine but hey, I don't know much about him so I wouldn't mind you enlightening me. was he that good? and how would he translate to the modern nba?
Overrated, but under looked, is that possible??
Do this for the Warriors before Curry
Monta Ellis
we believe 💯
U must be young
Since you mentioned Jerry Sloan who recently passed away, can you do a video about who he was as a basketball personality: both as player and coach.
Did that video ever get made? I’d love to see one. Jerry was my neighbor in the 90s when I was in Jr. High & High School. He always came back here to So. Illinois in the summer during the NBA offseason. He was extremely down to earth and never forgot his roots. I miss him. RIP Jerry!
I remember those early 70's teams. This was a great idea for a story.
Andy back at it again with Another One 💯💯💯
Thanks for another great video, Mr. Hoops.
Finally an exact vid I am looking for in a Basketball channel.
Thank you Andy ♥️
do how good was Wally Szczerbiak
Andy I love your content man, us nba historians out here who are true fans of the nba get tired of espn and bleacher report pop culture content. It’s really refreshing to see you cover stuff like this, I love it.
I grew up going to games at Old Chicago Stadium. I saw Artis Gilmore play in Summer League games at Chicago State University. And I remember listening to the Bulls play the eventual Champion Golden State Warriors in the Conference Finals. You have got to mention coach Dick Motta and his importance to those pre Michael Jordan teams. I consider myself lucky to have been a Bulls fan during those early years and I appreciate this report very much. Very nice work!
Can you do more things like this .... like how good were the Pacers before reggie Miller or Cavs before lebron
maybe we will instead :)
The Cavs nearly made the playoffs over Jordan's Bulls. But then Jordan hit "The Shot" and knocked them out.
YEET yup was his first big and clutch moment in NBA
Things improved for Bob Love. He was washing dishes for Nordstrom when management recognized him. They got him speech therapy and moved him into PR. He was then promoted and hired by another firm. Nordstrom said that they were happy to see him so successful. It is amazing what a difference a good manager can make in the world.
Already gonna be a fire video with Andy hoops , and with those intros , man it’s gonna be amazing but man pretty interesting video and I didn’t expect this
Especially when the trumpets come in at the beginning and then the guitar starts him breaking it down
Roberto Lebron uh huh oh definitely
Thanks for doing this historical video Andy, I'm old enough to remember these players& watched some of their games. I don't think most nba fans know this history. There were alot of colorful player personalities & games in the old nba as well as the ABA...
Thank you for inspiring a lot of small youtubers like myself there’s probably many more people like me who watch you’re content and get inspired to make a basketball commentary channel
facts, got us going, love your channel btw!!
The Original Mr.Bulls
Jerry Sloan
Rip Sloan🙏
Facts!
@@dangerhawk8799 What the?! Man, after knowing about Wes Unseld (I wonder if one can see some expressed words and thoughts for the death of his contemporary and past fellow player) already... rip coach Sloan :(
Those Bulls playing days and the staple Jazz's legacy, I still remember the spiced talk and kiss moment with Rodman (or was it Sir Charles? Probably of him I have in mind the one with Don Nelson, but they were just talking and battling the night that Barkley was too much hot and on fire to not get double teamed, according to him - he got that right, it was either his best game night or most points night - ) too ahahah.
Before Jerry Sloan Became The Jazz's Head Coach
This gon be a banger💪
Amazing topic and great video 🔥🔥🔥
Interesting topic
Thanks for the vid bro
I’ve always loved your videos but I noticed your delivery was extra buttery smooth in this one
You a legend for this thank you
Dude this is awesome! You should do more "franchise history" videos like this... If you haven't yet :P
Great history lesson Andy
Great video. I am a pre- Jordan Bulls fan. Bob, Chet and Jerry are my top 3 Bulls. Norm and Tom are on my list. Thanks again.
Love the premise of the video. Should do one for most teams
Bob love is a family friend of mine for decades I’ve met him he’s very chill
Good vid bro
Another top-tier video, good stuff Andy. I think a good idea suggestion for your next video is to cover how good the 1990’s Miami Heat were. Although they never made the finals, they were one of the best defensive minded teams of their era and had some very good talent on their team. Thank you !
Yes do a video about the Miami heat please
Talk about The Last Dance, I want to know your opinion about.
Love your work Andy
we talk about MJ after the Last Dance
should do one " how good were the cavs before lebron arrived"
@KingLeo80 nah, they had some good teams in the late 80s and early 90s but they were plagued by injuries and couldn't overcome MJ
we might do it!
Maybe how good the cavs when lebron leaves them
@@absolutejazz1676 I'd like both in one video lol
Hey Andy, I'm a subscriber for years now, excellent video once again. I have a video idea.
Since The Last Dance Documentary released, I've seen a lot of disrespect towards Lebron on social media.
We all know that a player alone can't win a championship. And that was an obstacle even for Jordan until Pippen arrived. People forget how important Pippen was for the Bulls and how much he contributed to those 6 championships along side Jordan.
So, I was wondering if you could make a video explaining the importance of Pippen on those Bulls teams.
Pippen gets forgotten a lot, and Lebron receives unfair critism. So it would be nice and refreshing to see a video by a big RUclipsr which will explain how crucial it is to have a good team around you no matter who you are.
I hope you see this and consider it
Peace
Hey man, I actually love that video idea we may do something like that, already got a video on how good pippen was
@@inthepaint2907 I checked your channel. Your videos are quite professional. I hope that your channel will grow because you are doing a great job
Kush Berry Thanks boss, appreciate the support highly, subscribe and let us know what you want us to make!
I already like this video before I watched it because finally someone took the time out to talk about the bulls before Jordan
Very good video!!!
I remember the first time I heard about R. Theus....Back in 1993 in Greece ....it was the last part of a nearly 10-year dominance of Aris Thessaloniki in hellenic basketball. Nick Galis had left. The team , behind P. Giannakis, included Roy Tarpley as the first foreign player of the two allowed (the other was JJ Anderson). Τhe team won the Eurocup, lost the Hellenic championship (first time from 1984) and just before the Greek Cup's Final, Tarpley left the team. So, Aris signed just for one game R. Theus. Ηe had a 9-point game ....
Bob Love spoke at my middle school. Back in 93. He talked about after his play career was over, he struggled & couldn't find work because of his stuttering. But he overcame that, still is working for the Bulls.
Thank u I never knew any before MJ and never thought about it
Nice video Andy. I also remember Orlando Woodridge and wonder why he also does not get credit for the Bulls pre-Jordan success.
Orlando Wooldridge was only a serviceable player good enough, yet not necessarily great.
"How good where the Chicago bulls before Scottie pipeen arrived " WAY better title
That's pure facts too really.
The factual but non-sexy or popular title is that.
Lol thats funny cause when he got there he was averaging 8 while they already had a SUPERSTAR averaging 30
Bulls needed Scottie to win
@@inthepaint2907 Bulls needed JORDAN to win fym 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Michael Jordan is the Alpha for Scottie Pippen not to be... Period!
I remember going to Bulls games before the Jordan era. Chicago Stadium was a ghost town for Bulls games in the late 70's and early 80's.
Super interesting
Wow the Bull's History is so intriguing! It's nice to see the parts that are overshadowed in the NBA. Bob Love's story was really depressing though.
Very interesting video. I did not know much about the pre-Jordan Bulls, so this was quite informative. Always good to learn more about NBA history. Of course, Jordan led the Bulls to great success, but without the Bulls players who came before him, the franchise might not have survived until 1984 to draft Jordan.
Good video
Before MJ's freetrow dunk there was DR. J Erving
Nice vid
This video was uploaded 5 minutes ago, how can you say that lmao
EnarTogo lmao I didn’t know what to say, I didn’t want to say first because it’s kinda stupid
@@HunterHyt I Mean, fair enough, but couldn't you atleast watch the video before saying it's a nice video haha. It's fine, I get it
It's insane how a little coinflip gone the other way, would've changed the entire course of NBA history from that point onward.
Even if he did, it would be unlikely the lakers could acquire another first pick.
James Worthy would most likely be the Lakers’ franchise player during the ‘80s era, assuming Ted Stepien’s sheer incompetence still happens in this timeline.
Wow, I feel for Bob love I also have a very bad stutter and I have back and foot problems
Thanks for doing a video about the Bulls before Jordan. The team deserves so much props and recognition and Bob Love's story is sad. His wife telling him that she doesn't want to be married to a stutterer and a cripple was just wrong.
I live in Chicago and I went to a bulls kid nation camp and on the last day they said a special person was gonna come in and t as bob love and hearing his passion and his story he’s my favorite player of all time
RIP Jerry Sloan he's the greatest Bulls player besides MJ, Pippen & Rodman.
Yea I love Jerry sloan and have so much respect for him but bro you can't say that, d rose, Joakim Noah,bob love,artis Gilmore, and even players like Jimmy butler who spent only like 6 years with the bulls had a better tenure wit the bulls then him
I didn't even know Jerry Sloan had passed and played basketball. I didn't even know he played with the Bulls, thanks for making this video. Because honestly when I think of the Bulls I think of Michael Jordan like u said in the video. But now I see the foundation.
Pat Williams was a fine GM. Love, Walker and Van Lier. Man, can you imagine: Magic, Gilmore and Theus.
Please also do comparison video about effects between melo and bron to their teams and how are their teams doing before they were drafted
nice work but you forgot the late Orlando Woolridge, also in 1979 draft they select David Greenwood in no2 instead of Moncrief or at least Cartwright
You forgot to mention there drug/alcohol problem especially the cocaine which was like a traveling circus or something
Even Jerry Sloan?
Andy, make a video on your analysis based on MJ vs Bron
Jerry Sloan and Bob Love held it down 🔥
Can you do a video about top 10 greatest conference finals
I adore these types of videos of the NBA during the 70s before the overrated Jordan era. I would like to here more coverage of overlooked teams from this period. Keep it coming.
The 70s Bulls of Bob Love, Chet Walker, Norman Van Lier, Jerry Sloan were very good. Add in Clifford Ray and Tom Boerwinkle and you have a very physical team. Just had the misfortune of playing in Western Conference with the Bucks and the Lakers. The Clifford Ray for Nate Thurmond trade however did not work out that well.
Good video. If you take out the Bulls teams of Michael Jordan’s prime every other iteration of the Bulls has a winning percentage of .481, which is almost the same as the Orlando Magic.
Can you do a video about the Top 25 NBA players that will add to the Top 50 NBA Players of All-Time? Two years from now, NBA will celebrate its 75 years of existence.
I'm not skipping your ads;)
Your the goat andy hoops next do the magic before they made the finals with howard
Nav, ur clearly a nice person so would u mind subbing to my channel, I’m trying to grow my channel and a sub really helps me out
@Nav even before the magic were still well known because of the Shaq and Penny days.
Dwight Howard carried that team, wish they pulled it off in the finals
I literally had no idea about pre MJ bulls until watching this. An eye opener.
It's hard to explain, but I know I share a similar frustration with millions like me. If you're from a small town in like Iowa, which I was, and a very good player, your perception is the same as a kid from a major city who is very good there. My main problem was liking basketball more than other sports. I could get in "a zone" where for a whole half I couldn't miss from 25 feet, sideline stuff. But I stopped growing after 8th grade at 5'9". I never was comfortable dribbling up the court. I had short fingers and was always worried I'd mishande the ball. Oh well, cry cry cry. I did make 90/100 free throws once. Yippee. Always loved sports! Walt Frazier was my idol. Damn he was cool "Clyde"!
This is a good idea for a series. How good were (insert franchise here) before (insert franchise changing superstar) arrived. I suggest the next one be "How good were the Houston Rockets before Hakeem Olajuwon arrived"
Please make a video on how good was Toronto Raptors before they got their championship last year, how good was Cavaliers before LeBron, Miami Heat before the Big 3 & GSW before Steph Curry.
And also make a video on how good was San Antonio Spurs before Tim Duncan, New York Knicks before Patrick Ewing, Detroit Pistons before the Bad Boys & Indiana Pacers before Reggie Miller.
yo andy made a video for this year's NBA draft who's the best : melo, wiseman, obi, and onyeka
They had a good team in the early mid 70s with Chet Walker, Bob Love, Sloan and Norm Van Lier, but could not get past Milwaukee or LA in the western conference.
Jerry Sloan, Bob Love, Artis Gilmore...
Pat Williams was an outstanding GM. Any team he goes to work for instantly achieved success. Made the expansion Bulls Team into a perennial Playoff Team immediately. Won a title as the Sixers GM with Dr. J and Moses Malone as their dynamic duo then assembled the Penny/Shaq era that led the 89 Expansion Team Orlando Magic to the 95 Finals in only their 6th Season.
That's some cold shit... poor Bob Love.
😭 poor Bob I love him man
As a Laker fan, I feel sorry for Mr. Bob Love on what happened about his personal life. I was really hurt about when his former wife wanted to divorced him because he’s a stutter. I wished that Mr. Love already heal his simple but a tragic event during when he was with his first wife.
I know Reggie from Hang Time. He was the coach on that TV show LOL
Bob Love was the only player I could remember as a kid in the mid 70s. He WAS the Chicago Bulls.
PLUS give ANYTHING to motivate MJ such as Theus dating his EX, Jordan's imagination went wild! MJ is the same dude who got mad at a dude telling him,"Nice game,MJ!"
Jordan: "I must destroy him!"
Reggie Theus mustache though
Garner Minschew still blows my mind though
He looked like John Oates of Hall and Oates
Before the Last Dance that is. Bob Love, Jerry Sloan, Norm Van Lier, Artis Gilmore, Reggie Theus and the Madhouse on Madison
Can you make a video about Romeo miller usc