This player's performance is still by far the best I've heard. The intuition behind the decisions in the music and also how the dynamics are played are wonderful. This isn't one of those players who likes to just shit on the pretty parts by playing them so insanely fast that you can't tell what they're playing or playing the really ugly parts slowly. The tempo and decisions all make sense along with a great portion of the notes being accurate (as in almost ALL OF THEM). I really wish I could see the person behind the piano on this piece
yeah probably haha. I'm attempting this monster and it's definitely different fast than slow. (Of course, that's how it is with ANYTHING classical. Plus pianists that play stuff too fast make it sound like just rhythms instead of notes
I agree. Having played this piece myself for performance though, I can definitely say that it can be difficult not to rush through the tough sections, particularly with Ravel. Just a note.
That's what's beautiful about it. That it doesn't come back. I used to feel the same way, and then I played the music and realized why it can't come back. Reminds me of that single moment in Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto, 3rd movement... when the piano plays a very short set of harmonies. It NEVER happens again or anywhere else. Or also, in the 1st movt. of the same, that beautiful melodic passage which occurs after the long dreamy/arpeggios. Just once.
It seems like you put effort in this comment but I just came from a rhythm game and it seems that this is more of a classical piece so I don’t understand your comment
@@potatopotato-lf1ns well darn, it’s been a minute (hello 2013). Unfortunately this is an error in how comments were threaded in old RUclips. I was responding to someone below - TheaOchiMati - but it’s not longer organized that way. My point was that, especially these days where a lot of music just repeats little riffs over and over, Ravel chooses not to repeat this particular moment in the piece. That being said... he does actually use that progression in other works, especially those for piano. Rachmaninov did the same. So I was responding to their comment. The section is about 20 seconds in. It’s a real favorite among people who love this piece. As with life and wonderful moments, you learn to love more what never recurs.
Just like storytelling. I used to feel the same way about that and took me a while to realize, and truly as you said, it is the beauty of it how it does not come back.
@@thaesino Thank you for clarifying your comment I was a little bit surprised as well as I was not sure to understand which moment you were referring to
the last one doesn't even sound like a glissando!! funny how it doesn't say glissando in the sheet music. it sounds as precise as a computer. how do you even achieve this
My mouth flew open at 5:10 and opened a lot wider at 5:17 I've heard this song before... but NEVER so precise, and till I saw the music I never realized that they were 3rds and 4ths instead of glissandos! Especially at 5:17! It's increadible! Thanks for uploading!
I love this! I've never seen a RUclips video that lets you read along with the music playing in order to understand how it should be played! Awesome idea, and kudos to you for it! :D
Mmmmm, I adore the phrase from 0:14 - 0:28. Wish it came back in the piece more often, especially just like that. It pops up here and there in different states of development, but the first time the theme is presented is my absolute favorite.
i own a cd by jean-yves thibaudet (incorporated in the ravel complete edition by decca) and every interpretation is so nuanced and flawless its really outstanding :))
At least 90% of professional classical recordings are edited. Even live recordings, thanks to the full dress rehearsal. In live condition, you can be less demanding as a spectator because of the energy of the musicians, so to compensate that fact, editing to be near perfection can be a valuable solution. Moreover, musicians and the artistic director like to be as close as the composer wanted, and editing allow it. And above all, editing is not only pasting technically well done pieces, it is to go further in the musical approach of the piece. Each take is discussed for music, and oftenly between 2 persons. And that's a useful work to do for a musician, as he's learning and progessing a lot by doing this; oftenly they play the piece in live much better after a recording and has increased their musical level. The aim is always to make feel the listener more intense emotions, in a venue or on a CD.
A great interpretation, thanks for uploading! Thibaudet makes interesting (but excellent nonetheless) use of the sostenuto pedal that not many other performers seem to be able to do... :)
What a marvellous evocation of Spain. I've often thought a good exam question would be: the greatest Spanish music was written north of the Pyrenees. Discuss!
It's still the same as a glissando. For the first glissando you play A and D with 4 and 2, hold you hand in that position and just glide your hand up then change to 1 and 3 for the way down. It's the same as a single note glissando, well, just a lot hard to pull off neatly.
@MaestroTJS Oh god they are! It's the part at 1:21 where they're the toughest (the b minor part of that)... keeping that part subtle without sounding like a mess is just insane...the double glissandi are extremely easy to pull off compared to that damn passage!! I've probably worked out 3 or 4 'valid' fingerings, but none of them are 100% comfortable.. The other repeated parts are a little easier because you have more space... the 1:15 - 1:25 repeated notes get invaded left right and center!
Why does almost everyobody seem to rush this? The fundamentally important element is surely the rhythm. If the rhythms are not completely clear then you have failed, in my view. High speed is NOT necessarily better. There are limits. I have heard many pianists, mostly young ones, who think that the faster the better. They could not be more wrong. Tempo is important but so is expression, rhythm, keeping the beat even, tone, phrasing, etc. You should choose a tempo which facilitates all these things.
I just tried to play this (it's above me). Beginning: This is okay. Middle: It could be worse. Latter half of middle: It got worse. Ending: How is this physically possible?!?
@MrPianist12345 From the Petrucci Music Library, or IMSLP, give it a google. It's a website that hosts public domain sheet music(which varies by country, in the U.S. it's anything written before 1923). Tons of music there to peruse, give it a peek.
@JoEbYX Ouch! Those passages and the ones where he has the player repeat a single note extremely quickly (which seems to show up fairly often in Ravel...) seem to me the most daunting.
@M H you must be dumb enough to think that books = undeniable absolute facts. Also good and bad as concepts of their own are highly dependent on the perspective of the person who is making that judgement. Go to the comment section of any RUclips video of a performance for your quickest example before you start clutching your pearls in protest. Even if Ravel said that about himself it could be that his own expectations of himself were too high (very common with high achieving individuals). In summary, too many variables to keep spreading that as fact. With peace and love.
Oh, whoops! I meant glissandos in the traditional sense. I suppose they are technically called a glissando also... perhaps they use the same technique gliding over their third and fourth with another finger. Do you know?
Mateus Quibáo Pazzianotto watch the video of richter doing it. he does the ascending gliss with the back of his fingers, that's the way i prefer to do it.
+Sophia Poon For my Hadyn sonatas, I used to alternate between 1-3 and 2-4, but my hands are quite big. Just experiment with it a bit, see what works best for you.
I'm a terrible pianist and I can comfortably slide a third, fourth, fifth and sixth up and down. Octaves are very hard to keep consistent though. I recommend the thumb and ring finger.
This player's performance is still by far the best I've heard. The intuition behind the decisions in the music and also how the dynamics are played are wonderful. This isn't one of those players who likes to just shit on the pretty parts by playing them so insanely fast that you can't tell what they're playing or playing the really ugly parts slowly. The tempo and decisions all make sense along with a great portion of the notes being accurate (as in almost ALL OF THEM). I really wish I could see the person behind the piano on this piece
My bad, it's right. It just completely different when played slow
yeah probably haha. I'm attempting this monster and it's definitely different fast than slow. (Of course, that's how it is with ANYTHING classical. Plus pianists that play stuff too fast make it sound like just rhythms instead of notes
I agree. Having played this piece myself for performance though, I can definitely say that it can be difficult not to rush through the tough sections, particularly with Ravel. Just a note.
Listen to Bertrand Chamayou! Seriously!
ruclips.net/video/i27X2pabAJA/видео.html&feature=share
That's what's beautiful about it. That it doesn't come back. I used to feel the same way, and then I played the music and realized why it can't come back.
Reminds me of that single moment in Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto, 3rd movement... when the piano plays a very short set of harmonies. It NEVER happens again or anywhere else. Or also, in the 1st movt. of the same, that beautiful melodic passage which occurs after the long dreamy/arpeggios. Just once.
It seems like you put effort in this comment but I just came from a rhythm game and it seems that this is more of a classical piece so I don’t understand your comment
@@potatopotato-lf1ns well darn, it’s been a minute (hello 2013). Unfortunately this is an error in how comments were threaded in old RUclips.
I was responding to someone below - TheaOchiMati - but it’s not longer organized that way.
My point was that, especially these days where a lot of music just repeats little riffs over and over, Ravel chooses not to repeat this particular moment in the piece. That being said... he does actually use that progression in other works, especially those for piano. Rachmaninov did the same. So I was responding to their comment. The section is about 20 seconds in. It’s a real favorite among people who love this piece. As with life and wonderful moments, you learn to love more what never recurs.
@@thaesino oh wow thank you for such a quick response. This whole never repeating stuff is very cool, thank you also for clarifying :)
Just like storytelling. I used to feel the same way about that and took me a while to realize, and truly as you said, it is the beauty of it how it does not come back.
@@thaesino Thank you for clarifying your comment I was a little bit surprised as well as I was not sure to understand which moment you were referring to
I can’t decide if this is my favorite recording of this piece, but I absolutely LOVE the way he plays the glissando at 5:19
1:02 Ravel's harmonic style is just awesome... He is such a genius 👍
The parallel fourths and thirds are impeccable. OMG this is an amazing performance. Bravo!
Crystal clear articulation with very sparse pedal, strong steady propulsion, what a magnificent performance!!
5:11~5:18 Glissando is amazing!!!
@@edwardh663 and
@Ray Zhang It hurts though 😭
the last one doesn't even sound like a glissando!! funny how it doesn't say glissando in the sheet music. it sounds as precise as a computer. how do you even achieve this
This is impossibly clean. Thibaudet is on a completely different level
I love this sooooooooo much😭
Listen to Dinu Lipatti play this piece. It is jaw dropping....
this would be the piece I'd choose to show people in 1700s
What do you think Bach, Mozart or Beethoven would say?
@@jcl9792 I think Beethoven would celebrate. He was fantastically forward thinking. Just listen to his "Grose Fugue"
どこの？
I would show rite of spring😂
@@hariprasadsrinivasan maybe me too
Thank you for posting this delightful performance. After hearing his parallel fourths and thirds, I am looking for a hammer for my fingers. Wow.
I kept getting stuck on 0:16-0:26 as I was trying to listen to this for the first time.
Same
What do you mean? You kept listening to it because it was interesting, or what?
I am and it sounds amazing
I only came here for that part tbh
Yeah, I kind of wish Ravel reprised it at some point...
Fascinante musique. Les harmonies employées en font un morceau unique.
The Miroirs recording no doubt that Jean Yves Thibaudet's playing is the best！
My mouth flew open at 5:10 and opened a lot wider at 5:17 I've heard this song before... but NEVER so precise, and till I saw the music I never realized that they were 3rds and 4ths instead of glissandos! Especially at 5:17! It's increadible! Thanks for uploading!
i know im 10 years late, but they are glissandi. They're double note glissandi.
Totally ingenious piece. What a genius is RAVEL.
I love this! I've never seen a RUclips video that lets you read along with the music playing in order to understand how it should be played! Awesome idea, and kudos to you for it! :D
1:11 ravel what were you drinking
Probably all that early 1900's medical-grade cocaine
It's pretty similar to Darude - Sandstorm.
Absinthe is a hell of a drink.
what was he drinking? I'd say.. yes, all of it.
prob high concentration champagne
Nodame Cantabile
You got that right :)
I don't know what that means but I liked your comment because I'm pretty sure it says "This song's freaking amazeballs."
+Luka Puka It was featured in a TV series about a pianist (Nodame). But yes, freaking amazeballs is about right.
like the first 10 secs part..
OK
This pianist is incredibly talented. I think that even some of the other famous pianists couldn't play this.
i am listening this song for at least 10th time in a row now, brings up such nostalgic feeling i love it
Mmmmm, I adore the phrase from 0:14 - 0:28. Wish it came back in the piece more often, especially just like that. It pops up here and there in different states of development, but the first time the theme is presented is my absolute favorite.
Everyone does , its enchanting
4:15 This base leap is sublime
favorite ravel's song
Absolutely beautiful. I instantly went to find the song the minute I heard it.
I just can't enough of this.
This music is incredibly good and, here, incredibly well played!
5:10 the cleanest thirds/glissandi I've ever heard.
i own a cd by jean-yves thibaudet (incorporated in the ravel complete edition by decca) and every interpretation is so nuanced and flawless its really outstanding :))
technically, this sounds near to perfection, especially the glissandi. I hope this hasn't been edited...
At least 90% of professional classical recordings are edited. Even live recordings, thanks to the full dress rehearsal. In live condition, you can be less demanding as a spectator because of the energy of the musicians, so to compensate that fact, editing to be near perfection can be a valuable solution. Moreover, musicians and the artistic director like to be as close as the composer wanted, and editing allow it. And above all, editing is not only pasting technically well done pieces, it is to go further in the musical approach of the piece. Each take is discussed for music, and oftenly between 2 persons. And that's a useful work to do for a musician, as he's learning and progessing a lot by doing this; oftenly they play the piece in live much better after a recording and has increased their musical level. The aim is always to make feel the listener more intense emotions, in a venue or on a CD.
@@Paul-vq8zh Well said. 😎🎹
1:27 You can hear the performer speaking in his head, "Am I going too fast? Shoot I think I rushed I'll slow down a tiny bit."
sooooooo sophisticated melody
When I was first learning this piece, I used to just play that phrase over and over.
GENIUS!!!
I would love to travel to the past to meet Ravel
mouse rice ravel
3:16 Halo theme.
Great piece by you RaveL!
THIS IS SO HARD I CANT WHY DID I DECIDE TO LEARN THIS PIECE
2:04 My Funny Valentine
This would be my theme song. It stirs things up in me something powerful.
A great interpretation, thanks for uploading! Thibaudet makes interesting (but excellent nonetheless) use of the sostenuto pedal that not many other performers seem to be able to do... :)
Nodame Cantabile 👍🏻💗
5:33 to 5:42 is my fav part :)
wow same
This piece is so unique
What a marvellous evocation of Spain. I've often thought a good exam question would be: the greatest Spanish music was written north of the Pyrenees. Discuss!
Oh, listen to Falla, Albéniz,...
5:18 ？？？？？？？？
lmao
It’s a glissando, you put your fingers on first position and just slide your hand up with fingers in place
@@donnytello1544 yes
0:16 1:23 5:34
이 부분 너무 좋다
Love this piece!
It's still the same as a glissando. For the first glissando you play A and D with 4 and 2, hold you hand in that position and just glide your hand up then change to 1 and 3 for the way down. It's the same as a single note glissando, well, just a lot hard to pull off neatly.
Those glissandos are so satisfyingly clear and precise, especially those 4 in a row at 5:10, like ??
Those thirds and fourths are played with the first and third fingers. More painful than difficult:)
노다메칸타빌레에서 첨 듣고..
알았는데,너무 좋네요^^
@Zinlol Yes they are. You just hold the interval nice and stiff with your fingers and drag!
I love it! =))) But the glissando part seems so hard. :( I wonder what techniques did they use to do that.
Muchas Grazie You're Helping moi so much.
スワンレイクはね、四幕で王子様が出てくるのと、最後白鳥が人間に戻るシーンが大好きなの！毎回胸が熱くなる！なんでかな？😊
何が気に入らない？まさかまだクズがよって来てる？まだ？は？
クズクズ、クズクズ！
クズ自認だって！（笑）クズクズ、
This seems like a piece that makes your hands chuckle before shouting "I'M IN DANGER!".
@MaestroTJS Oh god they are! It's the part at 1:21 where they're the toughest (the b minor part of that)... keeping that part subtle without sounding like a mess is just insane...the double glissandi are extremely easy to pull off compared to that damn passage!! I've probably worked out 3 or 4 'valid' fingerings, but none of them are 100% comfortable..
The other repeated parts are a little easier because you have more space... the 1:15 - 1:25 repeated notes get invaded left right and center!
Why does almost everyobody seem to rush this? The fundamentally important element is surely the rhythm. If the rhythms are not completely clear then you have failed, in my view. High speed is NOT necessarily better. There are limits. I have heard many pianists, mostly young ones, who think that the faster the better. They could not be more wrong. Tempo is important but so is expression, rhythm, keeping the beat even, tone, phrasing, etc. You should choose a tempo which facilitates all these things.
I just tried to play this (it's above me). Beginning: This is okay. Middle: It could be worse. Latter half of middle: It got worse. Ending: How is this physically possible?!?
Me trying to play this: Beginning: This is quite terrible, actually. Still Beginning: How is this physically even possible???
3:03 1st thing 3:57 2nd
Good tips, thank you
I think the seeming failure of recapitulation is a really big part of this piece, and to some degree makes it (for me).
Amazing
5:10
But it says quite clearly on the score "glissando". The first three are glissandos and the last on is a scale.
it's so great boy
音もよく飛ぶし手が小さいので難しすぎて朝から弾こうとは思えない曲ですね(；＿；)
曲の雰囲気とかそういうのではなくて、、、寒かったり眠いと指が、、、動かない、、、
お気に入りの一曲です👍
4:36 2nd measure, where is the D sharp?? Why is there an accidental there
Steef not to be confused with the left hand's d sharp, i think.
@MrPianist12345 From the Petrucci Music Library, or IMSLP, give it a google. It's a website that hosts public domain sheet music(which varies by country, in the U.S. it's anything written before 1923). Tons of music there to peruse, give it a peek.
Are those glissandos really possible with two fingers?
Very gorgeous
5:42
Pretty good
@JoEbYX Ouch!
Those passages and the ones where he has the player repeat a single note extremely quickly (which seems to show up fairly often in Ravel...) seem to me the most daunting.
is it my idea or everything that ravel has wrote for piano is extremely difficult???
you will not imagine a composition of his called "La Valse"
@M H whatever don’t believe the rumours
@M H I have. Unless I see ravel in front of my eyes playing the jury is out.
@M H you must be dumb enough to think that books = undeniable absolute facts. Also good and bad as concepts of their own are highly dependent on the perspective of the person who is making that judgement. Go to the comment section of any RUclips video of a performance for your quickest example before you start clutching your pearls in protest. Even if Ravel said that about himself it could be that his own expectations of himself were too high (very common with high achieving individuals). In summary, too many variables to keep spreading that as fact. With peace and love.
why does the begining reminds me of bartok :D
Nice.
Oh, whoops! I meant glissandos in the traditional sense. I suppose they are technically called a glissando also... perhaps they use the same technique gliding over their third and fourth with another finger. Do you know?
so how to play a glissando with two notes??? I am practicing
*****
I did use the 2nd and 4th fingers! At first it was very unconfortable but later it was ok, but I guess it depends on the player's hand.
***** oh... regular hand position of course! backhand would be really weird
Mateus Quibáo Pazzianotto watch the video of richter doing it. he does the ascending gliss with the back of his fingers, that's the way i prefer to do it.
+Sophia Poon For my Hadyn sonatas, I used to alternate between 1-3 and 2-4, but my hands are quite big. Just experiment with it a bit, see what works best for you.
I'm a terrible pianist and I can comfortably slide a third, fourth, fifth and sixth up and down. Octaves are very hard to keep consistent though. I recommend the thumb and ring finger.
00:59 5:32
05:51
ok
starting this piece today. we'll see how it goes
So uh how ya doin rn?
好厲害喔
Sounds a lot like Hakon Austbø's wonderful interpretation
The beggining sounds like Final Fantasy
sorabji's opus clavicembalisticum is more difficult
O
Not even the hardest sorabji piece, opus archmagicum is harder
this reminds me of stravinsky
マットレスか敷き布団かって話、マットレスも敷き布団も重ねれば両方の良さが得られる！
눈물난다 연대 ㅠㅠ
연대 수시곡인가요?
야쥴 누구세영?
今年、吹奏楽でやるからこの曲知ったけど、ピアノも結構いいもんだなぁ...
Where'd you get the sheet ?
No dislikes with 100 likes!!
0:15
0:16
0:16 ii V I
Someday...
Adrián Gómez Did u learn it?
Have you got around to it?
"nuts"...A different word for "passionate".
Do You think you can email me the pdf?
''미쳤다''
指輪の広告見て、背景黒いと怖いの！なぜ？
さっきクソが動画入ってて、岩田時計舗かと思った、怖い！
放送で、世界中コントロール出来るよ！色んなジャンルのを使い分けて放送すれば簡単だよ！ゲンちゃん達と考えたら？ストレス解消になるし！
クラシックもモダンも踊れて、リフトもやるってなると、身体を壊す確率高くなるから、先生によく教わった方が良いよ。ニューヨークシティバレエの基礎のレッスンを前に動画見たけど、クラシックもモダンもいける基礎って感じだった。先生と相談されたら良いよ。😊
i can say a word
ok.