01:50 typo obviously meant to say 40% res shred on Kazuha Also heads up the Raiden build competition is still going on in my discord so if you think you have a good Raiden join up and you may win some prizes if it’s one of the best: discord.gg/SdRe4feFXV
While fischl does snapshot the em from c2 kaz, you don't benefit from it since additive and transformative reactions account for em dinamically ... i have c2 kaz f2p btw 😅
Also you missed on kazuha too kazuha doesn’t have a limiter aka the more em the more buff if he has 3k em then he gives 120% buffs but to be realistic we will say 1k em is roof which is gonna put him at 40 percent and not 38 percent but both xilonen and kazuha at c0 give the same buffs just xilonen have op cons and kazuha have weird cons like his c6 which makes him an op Dps (hoyo gotta be high why make kazuha a Dps with his cons it ain’t makes sense) but also both are equally as good even with cons just in their own ways like kazuha can be better in teams where their is elemental reactions while xilonen is hyper carry teams and also YOU CAN STAKC THEIR BUFFS Together (get a 160% percent buff at c0 and over 200% buff with cons of both) I’m hella hyped for her even tho I am a kazuha main you know I gotta get a second kazuha
I don’t know why people are mad at a unit that is basically like having a second Khazuha, While Cat mommy is stronger The Khazuha still pretty valuable. Also in what world is bad to have 2? If we all can enjoying basically having 2 Xingqu I think we can enjoy having 2 khazuhas.
because they're simps. making an argument that doesn't go with the majority in this community is considered a sin, even if you have video proof of your point being valid.
I’m still surprised she wasn’t nerfed in beta, but imo both Kazuha and Xilonen will slot into their own teams. Kazuha will lose some, but he won’t be replaced in some + you can run Neuvi-Furina-Xilonen-Kazuha for an insane cracked team
@@nilamelody She still heal in this team, you need two characters of elements that crystallize in the team. Period. Double of any of these elements activates the heal and the res shred Don't meet the requirements and then she doesn't shred anything and doesn't heal too, there's no situation where you get only one of these (well, only c2 for geo...)
This team is still worse than Neuvilette's best team. I don't understand why people keep insisting on this team. The healing given by the character is not enough for Furina and you cannot stack Neuvilette's loads. Instead, when you give Zhongli Archaic Petra and replace him with Xilonen, you can stack neus load+you get shield and also get res shred with damage bonus, how much sense does it really make to play c0 neuvilette without a shield?
This is the weirdest comment section i have seen on a genshin video. People are taking it so seriously. Kazuha is still a great unit to have unlike many other 5 stars lol.
They hate him cause he's a meta MALE character for years and not a hot waifu 💀 I've seen people hate on him just cause "they had to pull for a male" and "he ruined their waifu teams" 🤣
Overall, both are about the same but imo kazuha can get way more value in some scenarios (such as if u need grouping, aggravate teams, teams that need his elemental application etc). Whats actually scary is how more broken Mualani will get. She is already mopping the floor with everyone in terms of clear times rn but after Xilonen, she is gonna be even more insane.
Mualani is already complete in terms of speedrunning, her own constellations are a bigger gain that you wouldn't want to forego a constellation on Mualani over Xilonen especially in lower cost brackets.
@@Matthew-qt3jk not exactly. In terms of speedruns, Its true xilonen wont do that much cuz Mualani prefers Sucrose due to lower animation times. What would improve alot is her "casual" teams. The best casual mualani team atm uses Kazuha + Zhongli + XL. Xilonen will replace Zhongli and for Mualani that will be a big buff. Now u have both IR and Healing for comfort, highest theoretical dps in the game and since Mualani is also getting fixed next update, way less clunkyness. Mualani is already so broken at meta clear levels and after Xilo, she is gonna be broken for casual play too. Also, Pyro archon is hopefully gonna replace XL cuz she is still quite a hinderace for her. She provides pretty much nothing except pyro app while being an energy black hole.
Xilonen will be more comfortable to use than Kazuha in my opinion, and i think she'll be a fantastic unit. This'll be a Yelan and Xingqiu situation once again where you'll pair the two of them (and preferably also a Furina) and slap them into any hypercarry team
kazuha aint dead or powercrept bruh, people forget you get to use both xilonen and kazuha in different teams now, they both are great in their own situation.
exactly what i am going to do. now, i can have kazuha in one floor while have xilonen in another. both win win. i don’t know why others are fighting who’s best. if they have enough pulls just pull for them both.
Not me lmao if I was rich I would get all the characters and their cons Including kazuha otherwise I just pull for characters in my limits got clorinde at 70 pity,got neuvi at 10 pity,got yelan at 20 pity and now Raiden at 83 pity and I'll keep saving until I eventually get a job earn my money,get rich and start pulling characters left and right cuz ITS MY MONEY NOW HAHAAH
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the dread surrounding her single target healing will eventually die down. I mean come on, damn near no one is complaining about Bennett's single target healing, which is also circle impact by the way. Damn near no one's complaining about Kuki's low single target healing as well. I can't see why it's suddenly an issue now. I can't help but feel like most Genshin hardcore players are just much more critical of character kits now. I'm confident that if Bennett was released today with his current state, people will doompost him and also whine about his circle impact single-target healing while disregarding his insane atk buff. But most of them essentially grew with the game alongside him, so their perceptions of him are different.
Kuki's single target healing isn't that low. Mine heals for 3800-4600 (depending on where her hp and her EM is at, as both vary), with a 1.5s tick, and she has, once you have the right cons, 100% uptime. It is pretty darn solid healing. The downside for her is more the combo of her healing on-field only, while trashing her own health. This leaves her at low health, so more at risk when she's (briefly) on the field. But yeah, the single target healing will be fine in most teams. And also worth noting that she will give a crystalize or two in the mix as well, for a little bit of shielding. Like 2k at near 0 EM, level 90, which is 5k against the same element.
i think they are pretty similiar. I don't see it as a problem since usually one is better over the other in some situations one is more offensive with personal damage, Grouping and swirling app albeit his buffs only last 8 secs and if i remember and is somewhat trickier to play(since you have to swirl the right element and also focus on having enough er to keep bursting.). One has hardly any personal damage or grouping but makes up for it with similiar buffs and defensive utility(except a few teams, sorry itto.) and also being somewhat easier to play. In some ways i also see it like this. Xilonen→Kazuha in ST(except maybe aggravate?) Kazuha→Xilonen in AoE I think at really high investment i think Xilonen is better though since c2 is really cracked and along with that weapon(my god, why do still nerf to make it not work with anyone else.) I think she beats him.
Eversince getting Kazuha to C1, I hardly made him warm benches with the exception of Nilou bloom and Chevy Raiden overload teams. Kazuha's always on the active deployment roster in my Abyss runs. I have no regrets getting his C1, but I think that's where he should stop growing vertically. I don't know about Xilonen just yet, but I have no idea how to use Geo characters well. As far as I can see, Kazuha is going to stay active till probably Genshin 7.0 or another Anemo Kazuha 2.0 comes along.
The thing about Xilonen's geo status is that it is like Zhongli's. The benefit isn't that her being geo is good, it is that being geo isn't bad. She is designed to not mess up the rest of the team's reactions, even if she doesn't do things to enable them. This means she will be able to go into a lot of teams, but it also means you need the other three characters to carry the full load of the useful elemental application. Of course, anemo has that aspect as well, except that, thanks to swirl and, for some, infusion, they can actually help with the offensive boosting reactions.
As a C6 Furina haver, I can assure you we most definitely got a 5 star Xiangling and Bennett. In a single character, with a better buff, better healing, no circle impact, higher damage, better element, more survivable, better uptime, and, yeah, just better all around.
@@Axterix13 while furina is so broken that she is my only c3 banner 5 star in the game, i don't agree she's that. the stuff she does is too distinct and the element means her uses are different. in fact, they go really well together. my furina mona bennet xiangling has xiangling doing 98k damage per hit with a 4 star weapon. furina didn't replace them, she buffed them.
@@Axterix13this is the most wild take. imagine the 2 in 1 unit gets paired with either xiangling or bennett or both. holy hell this game would break soon...
@@Axterix13 Yeah furina, my fav off field PYRO damage dealer. This aint hsr, where an quantam damage dealer is the same as an imaginary damage dealer (assuming both cant break weakness). Sure hydro might be a better element but there are cases where using a pyro offielder is still necessary. Kinich, mualani, childe, even raiden with chevelruse. there are teams where klee and lyney want xl more. Just because hydro has more use cases doesn't mean there are no use cases for pyro. Also hydro already has competition, like yelan and stuff. The reason xl is strong is because she is the ONLY pyro offield damage dealer than applies pyro consistently and does good damage (high investment xl do like 80k with childe vape consitently). If elements could be interchanged like you suggest, then xl would have been powercrept years ago. Fischl, xq, yelan, yae miko, nahida, venti, collei. Childe international where you were supposed to reverse vape but its actually just mono hydro. Mualani vape but its actually just mono hydro and mualani really wants vape but hahaha HYDRO. Furina is in hydro and yelan and xq exist. Furina has better buffs but im pretty sure yelan does more damage+ sligtly more hydro app.
2021: Nah, no need to pull for Kazuha 2022: OH GOD FINALLY KAZUHA HAS A RERUN HE'S A GOD!! 2024: fuck Kazuha I swear to God. Make up your goddamn fucking mind genshin players.
Made a similar comment on another cc's vid but I think it should be wise to mention the direction the game is going. IMO, getting both of them will be valuable for your account because it will allow players to have more team options especially for content such as the Imaginarium Theatre which is way more restrictive than the Spiral Abyss while also requiring you bring in 22 characters into its hardest difficulty and being limited to 3 elements. Not to mention, you're forced to use 4 characters per room and can only use them twice unless you reroll them through the mystery box which is complete rng. You can make the argument that IT is easy right now, but that likely has to do with how new it is and the devs are clearly trying to collect data on the playerbase that's even clearing it. It will likely ramp up its dps check in later rotations, eventually being similar to the Spiral Abyss in difficulty if not harder. Of course, you can choose not to get either of them if you really don't want them.
Furina + Xilonen + sieg = Navia E 500k (probaly) Sieg in party heals up whole team and gets fanfare stacks much faster and she provides set bonus buff. Xilo is in second slot to trigger geo reaction to create shards for Navia. (since there is 2 geo in party you also trigger her geo damage buff). Navia comes in last, sucks the shards and nukes after. (you can start with her ultimate on start of rotation and then switch to furina)
no way. not at c0. not even close. using c3 furina, ttds mona and freedom sworn bennet i can barely scrape 400k with my c0 navia in this impractical damage per screenshot party (using a redhorn as a stat stick outside of abyss with no abyss buffs). no way you do 500k with a bunch of c0 characters
@@FischlInsultsMePls maybe for non reaction heavy teams. Since fischl's best teams are usually reaction heavy teams(Taser/HB as a flex slot/Aggravate) which are usually an anemo unit's forte.
@@the_real_tabby If you compare them directly then Kazuha is better, but Xilonen + Nahida is better than Kazuha + Yao Yao/Kirara. She is a buff to Fischl in aggravate teams where you would want a defensive option.
I skipped him twice, and got him on his last rerun. Honestly I don't feel like I've missed out on too much, because the teams I've build at that time didn't work with him, or could do well without him with what I had. But now that I have more variety of characters I enjoy playing, maybe I can take advantage of him. Everyone's account and preferences are different, so I say just try the characters out in trial, and reaserch until you know for sure you're not going to regret pulling them. I still feel like he wasn't necessary for me at this point, but I won't dismiss his strength as a support.
I got kazuha in his first rerun back in 2.8 (around the same time i started playing) he carried me along the way. Now i have a big roster of characters i enjoy but i still play kazuha 99% of the time, he's my favorite in every aspect. I'm planning to pull for xilonon (guaranteed and have enough pulls, prefarmed everything i could) and I'm planning to enjoy both. It's good to have a variety of supports and play whoever fit, plus we have 2 abyss sides so it's nice to have 2 characters with different elements to fill the same role and ofc there is the imaginarium theater too. So yeah
I think for me personally I'm going to be skipping Kazuha in the future and pulling for Xilonen as I already have an Anemo character that does a similar role in Sucrose for the teams that I play and want to play in the future. National, Aggravate and Taser being the main ones that I see myself needing an anemo character in 2024. My account is only 2~ months old at this point so investing time into kazuha when I have a situationally worse character in terms of grouping but mostly equal in the other ares Xilonen is just more versatile. Only thing im not sure on if I should wait for Xilonens rerun and pull for Nahida or not bother if Im not going to be pulling Alhaitham/Cyno/Nilou
Personally I feel you I kind of regret my C2 Kazuha because of that bursts short duration 😅 I was a major Kazuha fan when i met him in game and just had that happy trigger moment in 2.8 where I was like I NEEDED to have C2... Now i wish i just stopped at C1 and saved my primos not going for C2 seeing how busted newer supports early cons are such as Nahida, Furina, and now Xilonen
I still want a team wide heal for Furina. For people like me (skill issues) we would need to have a team wide healer that is not Anemo or Dendro to use Xilonen with Furina. When I use Furina with someone like Bennett or Kuki I end up with most of the team off field and low health while Fanfare is not stacking. I need to leave my off fielders on field for the heals even if they are not doing any on field damage. I also end up swapping Furina back and forth between healer and off field dps. My comfy/low skill team will be Xilonen, Furina, Seigewin, and Navia.
In all honesty she isn't too different to Kazuha in terms of support effectiveness, especially since the percentage difference of the dmg bonus and res shred is only in the single digits. The main advantage is that she's essentially a more consistent dmg bonus and res shredder. She not only has a higher uptime of buffs, but her buffing conditionals and application make it substantially easier to see her buffs take effect. However, it doesn't necessarily mean it is the only factor to care about. The interesting quirks that differentiate her comes from her healing and the fact that she can buff geo. She works well if you need to buff a geo and another DPS at the same time (eg: Navia+Fischl). Her skill also works even in cases where it is very hard to obtain the element application for reacting with your arti set. Meanwhile, Kazuha has consistent grouping, which is always generally good. He also has a lot of swirls, which can open up his own niches (eg: Burgeon). Both do their job well. Flip has listed pretty valid issues, but it doesn't necessarily mean that xilonen is overall better than kazuha (or vice versa)
atp hes not even a budget pyro applier he’s just a pyro applier considering we only have 4 real pyro appliers including kazuha, 2 of them being fucking dendro
@@kingdoom5022 Legit. His grouping was so broken in SA to the point they bulked up the enemies just to prevent him from dominating every abyss. I won't be surprised if they introduce enemies that punishes Neuvillette's mechanics to indirectly nerf him somehow. Like a self-heal or charge attack penalty. Maybe self-heal restriction? Or an enemy consuming a charged attack overtime and using it against the player by dishing it back in a way, like a counter of sorts.
Dang people are going nuclear in the comments👺 How about we use both xilonen and kazuha in the same team, imagine how broken any dps character will become
@@SainInaban You have too much element damage bonus modifiers, you'll need someone who buffs Neuvilette's max HP or your main DPS main stats modifier (Atk/Def/EM/HP). In this team, even HP Goblet for Neuvi is better because you already have too much Hydro damage bonus from their kits. I hope the leak for Mavuika is true where she has Bennett level burst that also benefit non-ATK users (can buff Def and max HP along with ATK)
For real. Why are people arguing over "who's better"? They're support characters.. The beef would make sense if they're both DPS characters competing for the throne.. What's better than one Kazuha? TWO KAZUHAS!!
@@GraveUypoR5??? That's a bit excessive. I know the weapon banner isn't a scam anymore due to the fate point decrease.. But wouldn't it be way better to get them both to C2R1? It'd cost roughly the same as well.
For dmg amplifying i think xilonen will be better than kazuha. Xilonen can be paired with zhongli for extra 20% res shred and geo resonance which buff team dmg dealt. This combo alone provide -53% total res shred, 40% elemental dmg bonus from cinder city artifact, 15% dmg dealt, and unbreakable shield. Also she can reduce 3 different element res at once while kazuha only reduce 2 element res with double swirl
@@feyandhisstuff9888 well not really 3 elements because one sample guaranteed to be geo sample so theres only 2 slot left for other elements. team like xilonen, chiori/albedo, xingqiu, arlecchino can utilize all three samples res shred
@@hynex1886 in this team your arle will never get her 40% natlan set buff post first rotation because you'll simply will never reappy pyro midway of the fight, but yea technically its 3pl shred right
I actually think that some characters will take full advantage of both buffs rather than to choose one of them, so I don’t think that xilonen is replacing of power creeping Kazuha.
I think people are misjudging Xilonen, overvaluing her. I mean, she's excellent. She does everything Kazuha does, with better QOL and easier to execute. Her problem is her artifact set. In practice, it seems to be broken (and it is), but it's a set that doesn't benefit dual carries of two different elements. What this means: depending on Mavuika's kit, if she's subdps, it'll be better to put Natlan's support set on Mavuika (or another Pyro/Hydro/Cryo from Natlan) to enable additional damage for both Pyro and the other element (Hydro/Cryo), than to put it on Xilonen, which will only increase the damage of Geo and another element. This considerably reduces the comparison between her and Kazuha. I believe that when she's released, she'll be a sidegrade with better gameplay and more comfort than Kazuha, but it will tend to get worse as the meta migrates to dual/trio carries of two/+ elements. Examples of these teams: National, International, Wrio melt, Ganyu melt, etc. It is a big no to use this set for teams that focus on multiplicative reactions, unless the other element does not contribute damage and is only buffing and applying the element. Example: Mualani Vape with this set on Mavuika, instead of Xilonen. Even though Xilonen will be Mualani's BIS due to uptime, her using the set can screw up which element to proc on in the second rotation, in addition to not buffing Mavuika. I think this will be more noticeable over the next few months, while at launch everyone will be hyped for being a second Kazuha. Where she will be at 100% and will perform at a very high level without problems: mono teams and reaction teams where the second element does not contribute any damage, only with application, buffing and utility. So the current mono pyro and mono hydro teams will benefit the most. Meta should start shifting to multiplicatives in the Fire and Cryo nations, and this glaring difference that no one talks about will be quite impactful when the next top 3 DPS are vape/melt.
People are going to be humbled hard as soon as they finally realize that Cinder doesn't stack if used on two characters. The second Mavuika or some other pyro off-field buffer releases, Xilonen will be demoted to a Petra bot / subpar healer.
Getting single buffs will be a lot easier but in teams that want double buffs its gonna be really difficult Though as a male character enjoyer its cool that the people who prefer female characters get an option
I don't think that's gonna be difficult, sure in some teams that's the main different point that puts Kazuha over her, like International Childe because she can't use the self infuse Bennett to "swirl" pyro But in Arlecchino vape team it's only a slight change in the rotation like: Arle E > Yelan EQ > Bennett Q > Kazuha E (double swirl) Arle E > Yelan QE > Bennett EQ > E N2 (pyro crystal) Q (hydro crystal)
I'm just speaking from my experience with the characters I have and teams I play. I feel pretty well informed since I'm a day 1 player with a LOT of characters, but I don't have all of them so I am biased. In all transparency the only teams I play where I go for double swirl, other than taser, are Child national and Diluc XQ Bennet where I could possibly lose the pyro aura to the XQ orbitals before she gets a Crystalize. I never cared to pull for Yelan but yeah with her that wouldn't be an issue so with her it would probably be a strict improvement when you don't need the grouping.
While I think Xilonen will be great, I still think that the new artifact set is valued a bit too hard for her. It's only that strong, because there isn't an actual Natlan buffer at the moment that isn't Geo. Compared to VV, this artifact set can be used by any element, meaning that once Natlan introduces other characters for buffing that aren't either Geo or Anemo, it can open up a whole new way of buffing several elements at the same time. For example, if you want to use a strong Pyro sub-DPS to your Mualani (or other Hydro-Main DPS), it's way better to use that set on a pyro or hydro buffing character than Xilonen due to how annoying it can be to set everything up.
I have xiphos moonlight but no kazuha😥. I lost my 5050 to tighnari😭. I still grinded but couldn't get kazuha so I have been saving my pity and guarantee for xilonen. I even skipped raiden for this😞
Hear me out, how about I already have c1 kazuha with freedom sworn, and I get Xilonen and her weapon.😂 cause that’s what I’m doin babyyyy good luck to everyone with your pulls for cheetah mommy🙏
I’m curios on if c2 can contest bennett and kazuha in mono pyro from role compression allowing a second off fielder. Though this is if we ever get another pyro unit that damage. One thing I haven’t seen brought up but will probably be useful in gameplay is the mobility in night soul alleviating the lack of grouping the unit has.
getting both for the best character in the game (neuvillette) in all seriousness i tend to want two kazuhas for abyss so this is just helpful and good also pretty rollerblade lady how could i not pull
To be fair, you don't really sure Neuvi Vape seeing as his best team is with double Hydro an anemo, and a healer/shielder (His next BiS team is Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen for crazy buffs and debuffs)
Man having Uraku on my Clorinde is making Xilonen really hard to skip. I mean yeah, Yun Jin is comfy, but let’s be real, this is a true upgrade. (It’s totally already carried my C6 Fischl, C2 Nahida, and C2 Clorinde- is Xilonen even necessary at that point haha 😅)
@@F_PrintYeah but it should be infinitely more forgiving because her buffs can almost cover the entire rotation And even if you don't want to double crystalize, you still get the 36% shred for the second element, and only lose the scroll buff, whereas with kazuha you lose 40% shred AND his buff.
@musicaddict9058 You also underestimate how much dmg kazuha does in AOE. He contributes almost 20%- 40% on his own I am excited for Xilonen but pretty certain Kazuha will still be better in AOE scenarios and even some single target scenarios. Xilonen would probably popularise the old double Geo set up.
Natlan is the first nation where I had bad first impressions, and none of the characteres interested me, their animations only made it worse. Praying for Iansan not be fkd up at the very least.
@@spartantraveler7251 you can use them together for mono damage teams and it’s great! Also C2 Furina by herself? That’s 100% damage bonus vs almost 80% and a 76% res shred (effectively -33%) those two buff and probably by a decent margin.
@@spartantraveler7251 The Strongest Team in the Game: Neuvillette Furina Kazhua Xilonen If your Furina is C3 with Kazhua+ Xilonen then you get 230% Hydro DMG Bonus and C3 Xilonen will give 45% Res Shred + 40% VV res shred. So ye
Kazuha is also better in any team that can double swirl because Xilonen can't fully double scroll. (due to crystallize ICD and having to do it in NS state which makes applying 2 times and switching aura with geo impractical)
@yoiko89 Xilo doesn't work off-field. She can't do all that with 2 apps when doing EQN2. Switching aura during that combo is extremely scuffed and niche. U should compare this to something like Ninguang EN1 not Kachina. You're right that it works in AoE with different auras. I forgot to say I'm speaking about ST. Xilo burst has ok AoE it should be fine with it.
Pfff, yeah. Good luck with that when that mid unit losses all of her AoE because the enemies aren't grouped. And also, if you are that desperate for healing why didn't you just use Prototype Amber on Nahida for all these years.
This comment section going crazy like everyone should chill out. supports literally can be used anywhere😂 Wait u didn't talk about shield breaking geo can't break any shields unlike kazuha who can😂
I hope you take this as constructive criticism but all things considered this video felt way too similar to the other two videos you’ve already posted about her. Sheets aren’t everything, but it would’ve been nice if you had calcs to illustrate who’s better in which teams specifically rather than just boiling it down to “any teams where Kazuha swirls are important, I think he’ll dominate those” and “in AOE situation, Kazuha will be better there”
No offence taken down worry I appreciate it! In regards to doing team calcs the reason I don’t push them out is just because I don’t like how the community uses them. People just see higher dps and use them to form narratives around characters without the practical application which is not something I really want to contribute to. Even recently Furina teams where theoretically sheeting higher than Emilie for Kinich but when you actually play the team Emilie has so many more upsides over Furina that she is just the recommended pick. But this narrative that Emilie was worse than Furina caused so many people to skip her. For the latter that is really just what it comes down to. Their buffs are 1-3% of each other so the type of scenario you are in or team you want to play is ultimately what makes the difference. I can understand not finding that interesting though hope you can enjoy the upcoming videos.
@@FliponYT Oh I found the video interesting, it's still informative and I appreciate it, I just thought it was a bit too similar to what you've already published is all. We as viewers are not entitled to your reasoning so thank you for clarifying why you didn't include calcs.
Kazuha still top tier. I doubt Xilonen can swirl elements that can easily destroy shields. That stuff is so useful in abyss and against local legends like polychrome tri-stars
Cant agree with flexibility point. She can be played in every kazuha's current team + some geo and he can be played in every kazuha's team + some aggravate teams. Its more like both have +1 point there. Also keep in mind that in some teams he do more than just buffs and i mean extra elemental statuses from nowhere. At new boss you can swirl pyro from the ground to pop his balls in Neuv team. Also for c0 Neuv Kazuha can sometimes make 3rd reaction for his passive. And in some teams Kazuha is irreplaceble because of his Ultimate's bonus elemental statuses. She is much more comfy than him thats true, her buffs lasts longer and they are not tied to the enemy.
dont forget that her Natlan buff set can easily be stolen by other Natlan Sub-dps or Support (Hiiii Mavuika) and at basic s0r0 she has just 35% res shred and some ST healing (which is lower buff than bennet)
01:50 typo obviously meant to say 40% res shred on Kazuha
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A C3 Xilonen Can Give 45% Res Shred, 65.6% DMG Bonus
and What else i can say about her Broken C2
While fischl does snapshot the em from c2 kaz, you don't benefit from it since additive and transformative reactions account for em dinamically ... i have c2 kaz f2p btw 😅
@@jonathanettinger3104Oh mb then I thought it was only transformatives that were dynamic
Flippy C6 Xilonen when
Also you missed on kazuha too kazuha doesn’t have a limiter aka the more em the more buff if he has 3k em then he gives 120% buffs but to be realistic we will say 1k em is roof which is gonna put him at 40 percent and not 38 percent but both xilonen and kazuha at c0 give the same buffs just xilonen have op cons and kazuha have weird cons like his c6 which makes him an op Dps (hoyo gotta be high why make kazuha a Dps with his cons it ain’t makes sense) but also both are equally as good even with cons just in their own ways like kazuha can be better in teams where their is elemental reactions while xilonen is hyper carry teams and also YOU CAN STAKC THEIR BUFFS Together (get a 160% percent buff at c0 and over 200% buff with cons of both) I’m hella hyped for her even tho I am a kazuha main you know I gotta get a second kazuha
I cant wait for some players to say they regret pulling kazuha while they used him in 80% of there team for 3 years
Also there's 2 sides to Abyss and he has grouping. Still one of the best characters in the game.
I cant wait to trash some players who pulled for him and they are now complaning. Since i 100% refused to pull him on every banner he has been.
Ratheli video idea
@hallyuniverse true but they'll find a way just look at people saying hutao is bad now just cuz arlechino existe -_-
True.
Planning to pull on her banner just to get a second Kazuha in my account, jaguar mommy and canadian samurai will do wonders
Vars II be like: "The DOWNFALL of Kazuha" "Why NO ONE plays Kazuha"
What happened to Genshiun Court bruh, it dipped with Fontaine ???
We need more Genshin court ASAP
lol not gonna happen. They can co-exist, like yelan and xinqui
Courts soon I promise
Bro dropped genshin court after that incident 😔
Vars has been a joke for a while now.
I don’t know why people are mad at a unit that is basically like having a second Khazuha, While Cat mommy is stronger The Khazuha still pretty valuable. Also in what world is bad to have 2? If we all can enjoying basically having 2 Xingqu I think we can enjoy having 2 khazuhas.
And like last time they are completely capable of going together Neuvillete Furina core is eating somehow even better.
Exactly
because they're simps. making an argument that doesn't go with the majority in this community is considered a sin, even if you have video proof of your point being valid.
Ppl are acting like kazuha is going be forgotten as if childe isnt gonna continue to use him
Crusty-ass basement-dwelling coomers calling every tall character mommy is the very reason I straight up avoid pulling them like a plague.
I’m still surprised she wasn’t nerfed in beta, but imo both Kazuha and Xilonen will slot into their own teams. Kazuha will lose some, but he won’t be replaced in some + you can run Neuvi-Furina-Xilonen-Kazuha for an insane cracked team
this the exact reason im pulling for her lol
Does the res shred work in this team I think you need to different samples for the res shred
@@danishbhat2607 it does shred hydro
@@nilamelody She still heal in this team, you need two characters of elements that crystallize in the team. Period.
Double of any of these elements activates the heal and the res shred
Don't meet the requirements and then she doesn't shred anything and doesn't heal too, there's no situation where you get only one of these (well, only c2 for geo...)
This team is still worse than Neuvilette's best team. I don't understand why people keep insisting on this team. The healing given by the character is not enough for Furina and you cannot stack Neuvilette's loads. Instead, when you give Zhongli Archaic Petra and replace him with Xilonen, you can stack neus load+you get shield and also get res shred with damage bonus, how much sense does it really make to play c0 neuvilette without a shield?
This is the weirdest comment section i have seen on a genshin video. People are taking it so seriously. Kazuha is still a great unit to have unlike many other 5 stars lol.
These comments are making me laugh people really hate this man 😭
let's check if they re from korea since they korean male players rly hate kazuha because of 2.8 story
they hate him because they ain't him man😭😭
They hate him cause he's a meta MALE character for years and not a hot waifu 💀
I've seen people hate on him just cause "they had to pull for a male" and "he ruined their waifu teams" 🤣
people who originally hated kazuha back in 2021 are having a blast right now lmaooo they've been silent for years and now it's their time
Overall, both are about the same but imo kazuha can get way more value in some scenarios (such as if u need grouping, aggravate teams, teams that need his elemental application etc).
Whats actually scary is how more broken Mualani will get. She is already mopping the floor with everyone in terms of clear times rn but after Xilonen, she is gonna be even more insane.
Most reasonable take in this comment section 😭
Mualani is already complete in terms of speedrunning, her own constellations are a bigger gain that you wouldn't want to forego a constellation on Mualani over Xilonen especially in lower cost brackets.
@@Matthew-qt3jk not exactly. In terms of speedruns, Its true xilonen wont do that much cuz Mualani prefers Sucrose due to lower animation times.
What would improve alot is her "casual" teams. The best casual mualani team atm uses Kazuha + Zhongli + XL. Xilonen will replace Zhongli and for Mualani that will be a big buff. Now u have both IR and Healing for comfort, highest theoretical dps in the game and since Mualani is also getting fixed next update, way less clunkyness.
Mualani is already so broken at meta clear levels and after Xilo, she is gonna be broken for casual play too.
Also, Pyro archon is hopefully gonna replace XL cuz she is still quite a hinderace for her. She provides pretty much nothing except pyro app while being an energy black hole.
@@FliponYT imagine v1 mualani getting this buff 💀
Nah she would whoop everyone's ass @@deltaspecies1697
Xilonen will be more comfortable to use than Kazuha in my opinion, and i think she'll be a fantastic unit. This'll be a Yelan and Xingqiu situation once again where you'll pair the two of them (and preferably also a Furina) and slap them into any hypercarry team
between yelan and xinqgiu, i prefer c6 xingqiu to c0 yelan by far though.
@@GraveUypo I prefer Yelan for higher damage output and not too much hydro application
@@GraveUypoI prefer yelan for her mobility and higher damage
@@nyes4596 Yelan c0 has higher damage output if you put another hydro with her, if you don't she, does not
@@juampisito That's not even true? Yelan Will ALWAYS have higher damage output due to her A2 that increases the on field characters damage.
kazuha aint dead or powercrept bruh, people forget you get to use both xilonen and kazuha in different teams now, they both are great in their own situation.
exactly what i am going to do. now, i can have kazuha in one floor while have xilonen in another. both win win. i don’t know why others are fighting who’s best. if they have enough pulls just pull for them both.
Neuvi Furina Mavuika Xilonen // Raiden Yelan Kazuha Benny D:
why most people here want kazuha dead 💀
even for story handy, he's always the chill dude what did it do to you😭
@@prpl_moon bro has been meta since 1.6 the glazing need to end
We want support variety instead of Bennett Kazuha Xiangling
Not me lmao if I was rich I would get all the characters and their cons Including kazuha otherwise I just pull for characters in my limits got clorinde at 70 pity,got neuvi at 10 pity,got yelan at 20 pity and now Raiden at 83 pity and I'll keep saving until I eventually get a job earn my money,get rich and start pulling characters left and right cuz ITS MY MONEY NOW HAHAAH
@@irena4929what's wrong with old units being meta
No end glaze. Both in game and by the community.
Strongest Team in the Game uses Both Kazhua as well as Xilonen together with including Furina on 2nd Slot.
basically neuvi's team
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the dread surrounding her single target healing will eventually die down. I mean come on, damn near no one is complaining about Bennett's single target healing, which is also circle impact by the way. Damn near no one's complaining about Kuki's low single target healing as well. I can't see why it's suddenly an issue now.
I can't help but feel like most Genshin hardcore players are just much more critical of character kits now. I'm confident that if Bennett was released today with his current state, people will doompost him and also whine about his circle impact single-target healing while disregarding his insane atk buff. But most of them essentially grew with the game alongside him, so their perceptions of him are different.
Kuki's single target healing isn't that low. Mine heals for 3800-4600 (depending on where her hp and her EM is at, as both vary), with a 1.5s tick, and she has, once you have the right cons, 100% uptime. It is pretty darn solid healing. The downside for her is more the combo of her healing on-field only, while trashing her own health. This leaves her at low health, so more at risk when she's (briefly) on the field.
But yeah, the single target healing will be fine in most teams. And also worth noting that she will give a crystalize or two in the mix as well, for a little bit of shielding. Like 2k at near 0 EM, level 90, which is 5k against the same element.
@@Axterix13 That’s fair. My Kuki heals around 2k, granted I need to build her better
i think they are pretty similiar. I don't see it as a problem since usually one is better over the other in some situations one is more offensive with personal damage, Grouping and swirling app albeit his buffs only last 8 secs and if i remember and is somewhat trickier to play(since you have to swirl the right element and also focus on having enough er to keep bursting.). One has hardly any personal damage or grouping but makes up for it with similiar buffs and defensive utility(except a few teams, sorry itto.) and also being somewhat easier to play.
In some ways i also see it like this.
Xilonen→Kazuha in ST(except maybe aggravate?)
Kazuha→Xilonen in AoE
I think at really high investment i think Xilonen is better though since c2 is really cracked and along with that weapon(my god, why do still nerf to make it not work with anyone else.) I think she beats him.
Arlecchino mono pyro with Kazuha and Xilonen with Hu Tao double hydro plunge in the other will be literal enlightenment
Eversince getting Kazuha to C1, I hardly made him warm benches with the exception of Nilou bloom and Chevy Raiden overload teams. Kazuha's always on the active deployment roster in my Abyss runs. I have no regrets getting his C1, but I think that's where he should stop growing vertically. I don't know about Xilonen just yet, but I have no idea how to use Geo characters well. As far as I can see, Kazuha is going to stay active till probably Genshin 7.0 or another Anemo Kazuha 2.0 comes along.
The thing about Xilonen's geo status is that it is like Zhongli's. The benefit isn't that her being geo is good, it is that being geo isn't bad. She is designed to not mess up the rest of the team's reactions, even if she doesn't do things to enable them. This means she will be able to go into a lot of teams, but it also means you need the other three characters to carry the full load of the useful elemental application.
Of course, anemo has that aspect as well, except that, thanks to swirl and, for some, infusion, they can actually help with the offensive boosting reactions.
What if it ends up being a yelan on release situation where we play xilonen and kazuha on the same team like yelan was played with xingqiu
Neuvilette Furina teams are going to replace Zhongli with Xilonen and get even more broken lol. Kinda like Hu Tao back with double hydro.
@yoiko89 The other 2 characters just need to be Pyro/Hydro/Electro/Cryo, not that much of an issue
Anyway, it's insane how we got a reverse Kazuha before a 5 star Xiangling and Bennett.
XL AND BENNETT TILL 2035 BABYYY YEAAAAAHHH
As a C6 Furina haver, I can assure you we most definitely got a 5 star Xiangling and Bennett. In a single character, with a better buff, better healing, no circle impact, higher damage, better element, more survivable, better uptime, and, yeah, just better all around.
@@Axterix13 while furina is so broken that she is my only c3 banner 5 star in the game, i don't agree she's that. the stuff she does is too distinct and the element means her uses are different. in fact, they go really well together. my furina mona bennet xiangling has xiangling doing 98k damage per hit with a 4 star weapon. furina didn't replace them, she buffed them.
@@Axterix13this is the most wild take. imagine the 2 in 1 unit gets paired with either xiangling or bennett or both. holy hell this game would break soon...
@@Axterix13 Yeah furina, my fav off field PYRO damage dealer.
This aint hsr, where an quantam damage dealer is the same as an imaginary damage dealer (assuming both cant break weakness).
Sure hydro might be a better element but there are cases where using a pyro offielder is still necessary. Kinich, mualani, childe, even raiden with chevelruse. there are teams where klee and lyney want xl more. Just because hydro has more use cases doesn't mean there are no use cases for pyro.
Also hydro already has competition, like yelan and stuff.
The reason xl is strong is because she is the ONLY pyro offield damage dealer than applies pyro consistently and does good damage (high investment xl do like 80k with childe vape consitently).
If elements could be interchanged like you suggest, then xl would have been powercrept years ago. Fischl, xq, yelan, yae miko, nahida, venti, collei.
Childe international where you were supposed to reverse vape but its actually just mono hydro.
Mualani vape but its actually just mono hydro and mualani really wants vape but hahaha HYDRO.
Furina is in hydro and yelan and xq exist. Furina has better buffs but im pretty sure yelan does more damage+ sligtly more hydro app.
Both a great to have on your account. The main thing putting xilonen slightly ahead is her buff lasting double the time and better for wave clearing.
Looking forward to get her. Kazuha on the first half, Xilonen on the second half.
2021: Nah, no need to pull for Kazuha
2022: OH GOD FINALLY KAZUHA HAS A RERUN HE'S A GOD!!
2024: fuck Kazuha
I swear to God. Make up your goddamn fucking mind genshin players.
Made a similar comment on another cc's vid but I think it should be wise to mention the direction the game is going. IMO, getting both of them will be valuable for your account because it will allow players to have more team options especially for content such as the Imaginarium Theatre which is way more restrictive than the Spiral Abyss while also requiring you bring in 22 characters into its hardest difficulty and being limited to 3 elements. Not to mention, you're forced to use 4 characters per room and can only use them twice unless you reroll them through the mystery box which is complete rng.
You can make the argument that IT is easy right now, but that likely has to do with how new it is and the devs are clearly trying to collect data on the playerbase that's even clearing it. It will likely ramp up its dps check in later rotations, eventually being similar to the Spiral Abyss in difficulty if not harder.
Of course, you can choose not to get either of them if you really don't want them.
Furina + Xilonen + sieg = Navia E 500k (probaly)
Sieg in party heals up whole team and gets fanfare stacks much faster and she provides set bonus buff.
Xilo is in second slot to trigger geo reaction to create shards for Navia. (since there is 2 geo in party you also trigger her geo damage buff).
Navia comes in last, sucks the shards and nukes after. (you can start with her ultimate on start of rotation and then switch to furina)
no way. not at c0. not even close. using c3 furina, ttds mona and freedom sworn bennet i can barely scrape 400k with my c0 navia in this impractical damage per screenshot party (using a redhorn as a stat stick outside of abyss with no abyss buffs). no way you do 500k with a bunch of c0 characters
C1 neuv havers eating really good when she releases
It wasn't really hard to replace Kazuha. Just make character that isn't screwed over by slimes
I bet this is secretly another Fischl’s buff
@@FischlInsultsMePls maybe for non reaction heavy teams. Since fischl's best teams are usually reaction heavy teams(Taser/HB as a flex slot/Aggravate) which are usually an anemo unit's forte.
Not really. Kazuha does have some aggravate ownership so he ends up doing sufficient damage on his own which you lose by using Xilonen.
@@the_real_tabby If you compare them directly then Kazuha is better, but Xilonen + Nahida is better than Kazuha + Yao Yao/Kirara. She is a buff to Fischl in aggravate teams where you would want a defensive option.
I skipped him twice, and got him on his last rerun. Honestly I don't feel like I've missed out on too much, because the teams I've build at that time didn't work with him, or could do well without him with what I had. But now that I have more variety of characters I enjoy playing, maybe I can take advantage of him.
Everyone's account and preferences are different, so I say just try the characters out in trial, and reaserch until you know for sure you're not going to regret pulling them. I still feel like he wasn't necessary for me at this point, but I won't dismiss his strength as a support.
I got kazuha in his first rerun back in 2.8 (around the same time i started playing) he carried me along the way. Now i have a big roster of characters i enjoy but i still play kazuha 99% of the time, he's my favorite in every aspect. I'm planning to pull for xilonon (guaranteed and have enough pulls, prefarmed everything i could) and I'm planning to enjoy both. It's good to have a variety of supports and play whoever fit, plus we have 2 abyss sides so it's nice to have 2 characters with different elements to fill the same role and ofc there is the imaginarium theater too. So yeah
I think for me personally I'm going to be skipping Kazuha in the future and pulling for Xilonen as I already have an Anemo character that does a similar role in Sucrose for the teams that I play and want to play in the future. National, Aggravate and Taser being the main ones that I see myself needing an anemo character in 2024. My account is only 2~ months old at this point so investing time into kazuha when I have a situationally worse character in terms of grouping but mostly equal in the other ares Xilonen is just more versatile. Only thing im not sure on if I should wait for Xilonens rerun and pull for Nahida or not bother if Im not going to be pulling Alhaitham/Cyno/Nilou
Personally I feel you I kind of regret my C2 Kazuha because of that bursts short duration 😅 I was a major Kazuha fan when i met him in game and just had that happy trigger moment in 2.8 where I was like I NEEDED to have C2... Now i wish i just stopped at C1 and saved my primos not going for C2 seeing how busted newer supports early cons are such as Nahida, Furina, and now Xilonen
It’s a big win.. basically Xilonen is the Kazuha for my team no.2.🎉🎉🎉🎉
The c2 is really crazy for electro im gonna try to get that
Kazuha glazer has been real quiet since this drop
Kaz > Xilo She has NO BALLS
yeah but she's hot so she's already better by default lol
@@kacper0563 well, slap a dress on him and he might be prettier!
She has boobs =)
@@jakefrost8017 what is it with you gay boys glazing kazuha so much jesus💀
She got balloons instead
Xilonen is the extra powerhouse in term of buffing.
She's does not powercreep kazuha at C0 she's just kazuha 2.0
Having same broken utility character is not bad
6:58 I'm pretty sure everyone pulled for xiphos. We all just didn't get it.
LMAOO yes
I got Sethos, but I didn’t use him.
+ This is one of the fewest comments (three actually); who are not insane, and not affected by brainrot. 💀
Sethos I don't know how good he is butbthat damm bullshit ascension material feels shit to collect along sith thier location
I still want a team wide heal for Furina. For people like me (skill issues) we would need to have a team wide healer that is not Anemo or Dendro to use Xilonen with Furina.
When I use Furina with someone like Bennett or Kuki I end up with most of the team off field and low health while Fanfare is not stacking. I need to leave my off fielders on field for the heals even if they are not doing any on field damage. I also end up swapping Furina back and forth between healer and off field dps.
My comfy/low skill team will be Xilonen, Furina, Seigewin, and Navia.
its not that big of a deal if u alr have kazuha, because now you can have TWO kazuhas on both abyss sides!
In all honesty she isn't too different to Kazuha in terms of support effectiveness, especially since the percentage difference of the dmg bonus and res shred is only in the single digits. The main advantage is that she's essentially a more consistent dmg bonus and res shredder. She not only has a higher uptime of buffs, but her buffing conditionals and application make it substantially easier to see her buffs take effect. However, it doesn't necessarily mean it is the only factor to care about.
The interesting quirks that differentiate her comes from her healing and the fact that she can buff geo. She works well if you need to buff a geo and another DPS at the same time (eg: Navia+Fischl). Her skill also works even in cases where it is very hard to obtain the element application for reacting with your arti set.
Meanwhile, Kazuha has consistent grouping, which is always generally good. He also has a lot of swirls, which can open up his own niches (eg: Burgeon).
Both do their job well. Flip has listed pretty valid issues, but it doesn't necessarily mean that xilonen is overall better than kazuha (or vice versa)
no but like xilonen AND kazuha on the same team, crazyyy
Kaedehara Frauduha found dead in the same ditch Venti has been living in, except for the fact that Venti is the superior grouper.
atp hes not even a budget pyro applier he’s just a pyro applier considering we only have 4 real pyro appliers including kazuha, 2 of them being fucking dendro
I was cliff diving with friends, I slipped and cried "Venti!" and my friends knew that I had fallen off.
Venti might not be that good in abyss but he's the one of the most broken in IT mode lol
Finally someone spitting facts
@@kingdoom5022 Legit. His grouping was so broken in SA to the point they bulked up the enemies just to prevent him from dominating every abyss. I won't be surprised if they introduce enemies that punishes Neuvillette's mechanics to indirectly nerf him somehow.
Like a self-heal or charge attack penalty. Maybe self-heal restriction? Or an enemy consuming a charged attack overtime and using it against the player by dishing it back in a way, like a counter of sorts.
Dang people are going nuclear in the comments👺
How about we use both xilonen and kazuha in the same team, imagine how broken any dps character will become
You Mean Neuvillette Furina Kazhua Xilonen Team being the Strongest Team in the game. Hekk yea
@@SainInaban You have too much element damage bonus modifiers, you'll need someone who buffs Neuvilette's max HP or your main DPS main stats modifier (Atk/Def/EM/HP). In this team, even HP Goblet for Neuvi is better because you already have too much Hydro damage bonus from their kits.
I hope the leak for Mavuika is true where she has Bennett level burst that also benefit non-ATK users (can buff Def and max HP along with ATK)
@@veeshadow oh that sounds busted. maybe i should wait for confirmation on that before using all my wishes trying to get c2r5 xilonen
For real. Why are people arguing over "who's better"? They're support characters..
The beef would make sense if they're both DPS characters competing for the throne..
What's better than one Kazuha? TWO KAZUHAS!!
@@GraveUypoR5??? That's a bit excessive.
I know the weapon banner isn't a scam anymore due to the fate point decrease..
But wouldn't it be way better to get them both to C2R1? It'd cost roughly the same as well.
For dmg amplifying i think xilonen will be better than kazuha. Xilonen can be paired with zhongli for extra 20% res shred and geo resonance which buff team dmg dealt. This combo alone provide -53% total res shred, 40% elemental dmg bonus from cinder city artifact, 15% dmg dealt, and unbreakable shield. Also she can reduce 3 different element res at once while kazuha only reduce 2 element res with double swirl
There is no team which requied to reduce res for 3 elements. 3 diff elements + Xilo means No resonances which is already a downside.
@@feyandhisstuff9888 well not really 3 elements because one sample guaranteed to be geo sample so theres only 2 slot left for other elements. team like xilonen, chiori/albedo, xingqiu, arlecchino can utilize all three samples res shred
@@hynex1886 in this team your arle will never get her 40% natlan set buff post first rotation because you'll simply will never reappy pyro midway of the fight, but yea technically its 3pl shred right
I actually think that some characters will take full advantage of both buffs rather than to choose one of them, so I don’t think that xilonen is replacing of power creeping Kazuha.
I think people are misjudging Xilonen, overvaluing her. I mean, she's excellent. She does everything Kazuha does, with better QOL and easier to execute. Her problem is her artifact set. In practice, it seems to be broken (and it is), but it's a set that doesn't benefit dual carries of two different elements.
What this means: depending on Mavuika's kit, if she's subdps, it'll be better to put Natlan's support set on Mavuika (or another Pyro/Hydro/Cryo from Natlan) to enable additional damage for both Pyro and the other element (Hydro/Cryo), than to put it on Xilonen, which will only increase the damage of Geo and another element. This considerably reduces the comparison between her and Kazuha. I believe that when she's released, she'll be a sidegrade with better gameplay and more comfort than Kazuha, but it will tend to get worse as the meta migrates to dual/trio carries of two/+ elements. Examples of these teams: National, International, Wrio melt, Ganyu melt, etc. It is a big no to use this set for teams that focus on multiplicative reactions, unless the other element does not contribute damage and is only buffing and applying the element. Example: Mualani Vape with this set on Mavuika, instead of Xilonen. Even though Xilonen will be Mualani's BIS due to uptime, her using the set can screw up which element to proc on in the second rotation, in addition to not buffing Mavuika. I think this will be more noticeable over the next few months, while at launch everyone will be hyped for being a second Kazuha.
Where she will be at 100% and will perform at a very high level without problems: mono teams and reaction teams where the second element does not contribute any damage, only with application, buffing and utility. So the current mono pyro and mono hydro teams will benefit the most. Meta should start shifting to multiplicatives in the Fire and Cryo nations, and this glaring difference that no one talks about will be quite impactful when the next top 3 DPS are vape/melt.
People are going to be humbled hard as soon as they finally realize that Cinder doesn't stack if used on two characters.
The second Mavuika or some other pyro off-field buffer releases, Xilonen will be demoted to a Petra bot / subpar healer.
Skipping her heal when we always wanted a geo healer and buffer would be a crime lol
Getting single buffs will be a lot easier but in teams that want double buffs its gonna be really difficult
Though as a male character enjoyer its cool that the people who prefer female characters get an option
I don't think that's gonna be difficult, sure in some teams that's the main different point that puts Kazuha over her, like International Childe because she can't use the self infuse Bennett to "swirl" pyro
But in Arlecchino vape team it's only a slight change in the rotation like:
Arle E > Yelan EQ > Bennett Q > Kazuha E (double swirl)
Arle E > Yelan QE > Bennett EQ > E N2 (pyro crystal) Q (hydro crystal)
I'm just speaking from my experience with the characters I have and teams I play. I feel pretty well informed since I'm a day 1 player with a LOT of characters, but I don't have all of them so I am biased.
In all transparency the only teams I play where I go for double swirl, other than taser, are Child national and Diluc XQ Bennet where I could possibly lose the pyro aura to the XQ orbitals before she gets a Crystalize.
I never cared to pull for Yelan but yeah with her that wouldn't be an issue so with her it would probably be a strict improvement when you don't need the grouping.
"Though as a male character enjoyer its cool that the people who prefer female characters get an option"
absolute chad
A part of the salt that I have is pulling for his c2 plus signature, which does not really matter at the end
If you have kazuha c2 that good because it better then her c2 in melt and vape teams
While I think Xilonen will be great, I still think that the new artifact set is valued a bit too hard for her. It's only that strong, because there isn't an actual Natlan buffer at the moment that isn't Geo. Compared to VV, this artifact set can be used by any element, meaning that once Natlan introduces other characters for buffing that aren't either Geo or Anemo, it can open up a whole new way of buffing several elements at the same time. For example, if you want to use a strong Pyro sub-DPS to your Mualani (or other Hydro-Main DPS), it's way better to use that set on a pyro or hydro buffing character than Xilonen due to how annoying it can be to set everything up.
I have xiphos moonlight but no kazuha😥. I lost my 5050 to tighnari😭. I still grinded but couldn't get kazuha so I have been saving my pity and guarantee for xilonen. I even skipped raiden for this😞
Hear me out, how about I already have c1 kazuha with freedom sworn, and I get Xilonen and her weapon.😂 cause that’s what I’m doin babyyyy good luck to everyone with your pulls for cheetah mommy🙏
I’m curios on if c2 can contest bennett and kazuha in mono pyro from role compression allowing a second off fielder. Though this is if we ever get another pyro unit that damage.
One thing I haven’t seen brought up but will probably be useful in gameplay is the mobility in night soul alleviating the lack of grouping the unit has.
Where's your video about Dragonfly ?
ikr it disappeared
now i can finally play mono hrdro and mono pyro on both side of abyss
getting both for the best character in the game (neuvillette)
in all seriousness i tend to want two kazuhas for abyss so this is just helpful and good
also pretty rollerblade lady how could i not pull
i know i'll be running Xilonen - Kazuha - Neuvilette - Furina as a team or playing Xilonen with Navia
Can't believe i pulled for khazuha instead of waiting for kinich because I needed a support, now a better one is coming out i really wasted my primos😔
This is high key the worst comment section I've ever seen. Good video
True. Both of the sides glazing their units while hear I'm gonna use one for Neuvillette and one for arlechhino team 💀
I wonder if she'll make neuv vape less or more since kazuha is a budget pyro applicator
To be fair, you don't really sure Neuvi Vape seeing as his best team is with double Hydro an anemo, and a healer/shielder (His next BiS team is Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen for crazy buffs and debuffs)
Eh, not exactly. Vape Neuv has a higher dmg celing than mono hydro Neuv. Vape is widely used for speedruns. @@nyes4596
@@nyes4596 not in my experience. going hyper with him is a vast downgrade to putting xiangling on his team, at least at c0r1
ill just use them both in my neuv team ngl 🙏
Hi son, nice new video, looking forward to the next :3
Idk i don't have any Fontaine DPS she isn't doing much for my account Kachina does a similar job if needed;)
I skipped all Fontaine characters to C6 Yelan and Nahida 😅
@@ChromaToneMusic Umm, Kachina doesn't shred
If the new set did give element buff the she would have been dead without it
She got a tail. Im sold.
What do you think about their signature weapons?
Man having Uraku on my Clorinde is making Xilonen really hard to skip. I mean yeah, Yun Jin is comfy, but let’s be real, this is a true upgrade.
(It’s totally already carried my C6 Fischl, C2 Nahida, and C2 Clorinde- is Xilonen even necessary at that point haha 😅)
So the real question - weapon or constellations?
If you can afford to go for C2 prioritise it. Otherwise just get the weapon. The C2 is about 5% better than the weapon depending on the team
Kazuha is gonna fall off hard in every team outside of mono element teams
Fuck double swirl setups
Now instead of double swirls you get to do double crystallize lol.
@@F_PrintYeah but it should be infinitely more forgiving because her buffs can almost cover the entire rotation
And even if you don't want to double crystalize, you still get the 36% shred for the second element, and only lose the scroll buff, whereas with kazuha you lose 40% shred AND his buff.
@musicaddict9058 You also underestimate how much dmg kazuha does in AOE. He contributes almost 20%- 40% on his own
I am excited for Xilonen but pretty certain Kazuha will still be better in AOE scenarios and even some single target scenarios.
Xilonen would probably popularise the old double Geo set up.
@@kaein2973 I lose more damage from not having kazuha buff on my third mualani vape, than what kazuha gives me from his personal damage
I doubt it. Kazhua still offers elemental appliance, enemy grouping and personal damage.
Natlan is the first nation where I had bad first impressions, and none of the characteres interested me, their animations only made it worse. Praying for Iansan not be fkd up at the very least.
Hey Flip, what if I use Kazuha and Xilonen together? That'll be fun. Would that be more buffing than C2 Furina?
Probably for neuvi or non vape arle hyper. This seems very enticing.
@@spartantraveler7251 you can use them together for mono damage teams and it’s great!
Also C2 Furina by herself?
That’s 100% damage bonus vs almost 80% and a 76% res shred (effectively -33%) those two buff and probably by a decent margin.
@@FliponYT Furina Kazuha Xilonen Xiangling 😈
@@spartantraveler7251 The Strongest Team in the Game: Neuvillette Furina Kazhua Xilonen
If your Furina is C3 with Kazhua+ Xilonen then you get 230% Hydro DMG Bonus and C3 Xilonen will give 45% Res Shred + 40% VV res shred. So ye
@SainInaban and just add C2 kazuha
Kazuha: Oh no… my supporting isn’t as good as hers…
Players: HOLY SHIT TWO SUPPORTS
My C3 Neuvi gonna will have a feast. Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen. At last my Baizhu can wander to other teams.
But can she still group mats in overworld? No? I THOUGHT SO
TRUEEEEEEEEEEE NO ITEM CC
Heare out: Mavuika, Kazuha, Xilonen and Furina walk into a bar. RIP all the Genshin creatures.
Just take out xilonen as mavuika need beeny
Both in a single team. It's gonna be a nuke
I think Kazuha will never leave freeze team.
What I really want is a second Bennett whos not circle impact, Im sick of it.
Midzuha is finally getting some heat
Why is the dragonfly video not available?
I can finally clear content with neuv, furina, kazuha, and xilonen 😂
Bro have mercy on the enemy
Kazuha is also better in any team that can double swirl because Xilonen can't fully double scroll. (due to crystallize ICD and having to do it in NS state which makes applying 2 times and switching aura with geo impractical)
@yoiko89 Xilo doesn't work off-field. She can't do all that with 2 apps when doing EQN2. Switching aura during that combo is extremely scuffed and niche. U should compare this to something like Ninguang EN1 not Kachina.
You're right that it works in AoE with different auras. I forgot to say I'm speaking about ST. Xilo burst has ok AoE it should be fine with it.
Weapon +1 Xilo
C1 +1 Kaz
C2 +1 Xilo
Kazuha group plunge (c0) and double plunge (c1) is still unbeatable and fun
C2 melt and vape
She's completely powercreep. Finally a sexy res shredder for my Keqing team! I can also FINALLY use Nahida comfortably in her team.
Pfff, yeah. Good luck with that when that mid unit losses all of her AoE because the enemies aren't grouped. And also, if you are that desperate for healing why didn't you just use Prototype Amber on Nahida for all these years.
@@kawaiimika7974 kazuha glazer? with the current meta grouping isnt even a problem now idk what yall are smoking about
"without grouping ur useless"
@@kawaiimika7974pfft, Nahida can do the AOE, and because I have skill issue so I use Kirara.
@@kawaiimika7974 Okay Xilonen hater, we get it you don't like women. No need to comment twice about how "bad" She is
@@MaiShiro478 No, Xilonen dissapointer. I don't care about Kazuha all that much.
I came for the video analysis, I stayed for the comments section comedy.
I used my gaurenteed on eula and i never won 5050 . Is it worth to others no but for me yes
I’m too broke to go for both hu tao and xilonen😢. And i just got kazuha
You don't need Hu Tao in 2024
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek but i want her
@@gautamlimbu4702 That's fine, I'm just sayin. Your choice how you spend your resources.
I mean xilonen clearly powercreeps kazuha for me because she's a hot cat lady
This comment section going crazy like everyone should chill out. supports literally can be used anywhere😂
Wait u didn't talk about shield breaking geo can't break any shields unlike kazuha who can😂
bae wake up flip posted 🗣️‼️
Use both
I hope you take this as constructive criticism but all things considered this video felt way too similar to the other two videos you’ve already posted about her. Sheets aren’t everything, but it would’ve been nice if you had calcs to illustrate who’s better in which teams specifically rather than just boiling it down to “any teams where Kazuha swirls are important, I think he’ll dominate those” and “in AOE situation, Kazuha will be better there”
No offence taken down worry I appreciate it! In regards to doing team calcs the reason I don’t push them out is just because I don’t like how the community uses them. People just see higher dps and use them to form narratives around characters without the practical application which is not something I really want to contribute to. Even recently Furina teams where theoretically sheeting higher than Emilie for Kinich but when you actually play the team Emilie has so many more upsides over Furina that she is just the recommended pick. But this narrative that Emilie was worse than Furina caused so many people to skip her.
For the latter that is really just what it comes down to. Their buffs are 1-3% of each other so the type of scenario you are in or team you want to play is ultimately what makes the difference. I can understand not finding that interesting though hope you can enjoy the upcoming videos.
@@FliponYT Oh I found the video interesting, it's still informative and I appreciate it, I just thought it was a bit too similar to what you've already published is all. We as viewers are not entitled to your reasoning so thank you for clarifying why you didn't include calcs.
He is more like a furina soare than kazuha idk hiw yall compared theme
Xilonen has no grouping 😃
Kazuha has no healing 😃
Who Needs Grouping in the Era of Neuvillette
Only skill issue care about grouping 😂
@@omarkaram4216 just dodge. literally a skill issue
Just use Aoe characters, having a grouper is a skill issue too @@ushiima
7:39 YES KING OML SPEAK YOUR SHIT 🗣
Kazuha still top tier. I doubt Xilonen can swirl elements that can easily destroy shields. That stuff is so useful in abyss and against local legends like polychrome tri-stars
Flip got soo madge about kazu c2 falling off and him potentially getting replaced by xilonen he started to run him as an anemo carry instead
Cant agree with flexibility point. She can be played in every kazuha's current team + some geo and he can be played in every kazuha's team + some aggravate teams. Its more like both have +1 point there. Also keep in mind that in some teams he do more than just buffs and i mean extra elemental statuses from nowhere. At new boss you can swirl pyro from the ground to pop his balls in Neuv team. Also for c0 Neuv Kazuha can sometimes make 3rd reaction for his passive. And in some teams Kazuha is irreplaceble because of his Ultimate's bonus elemental statuses. She is much more comfy than him thats true, her buffs lasts longer and they are not tied to the enemy.
dont forget that her Natlan buff set can easily be stolen by other Natlan Sub-dps or Support (Hiiii Mavuika) and at basic s0r0 she has just 35% res shred and some ST healing (which is lower buff than bennet)
I was insanely lucky with Xiphos and got 6 copies on one banner
WHAT
@@FliponYT yeah and it was in only 70 pulls or something like that, luckiest I've ever been in this game tbh
Bro i literally did 60 pulls and got 0 xiphos 😭😭😭
This is like furina with yelan.
Furina may buff more and more consistently but yelan has other uses. Just like kazuha will still have a place ❤
Yelan’s benefit over Furina is more consistent Hydro application, yeah?
@@melaniewilson1742 and that Yelan's buff also doesn't require a healer
@@melaniewilson1742 yes and that the dmg% is more unconditional (Arle for example)
I'm flexing, but I got my kazuha with close to 800 em, over 204 er, and a woping 41.6 crit rate.
I have never missed a fav proc in 3 years.