They could clash the entity with a violent sociopath who doesn't not feel fear or a person who has a rage/anger entity symbiotically latched to him leading to a violent and terrifying battle between rage and fear. That's my idea for Smile 3.
The character Morris may or may not even be real! I can't help but feel like the entity tricked Skye into thinking he's real, thus giving her false hope.
Everything was real up to the point after Skye refuse to go with Morris that following night to get rid of the curse entity , when the dancers went after skye in her apartment scene, that was the beginning of the downfall
Me too; they have her say hi to the mom, but the mom never replies back, which triggered my "Tyler Durden" radar. Then after that I noticed she never talks to any of the other actors and knew for sure.
Excellent review. I agree with you that the first movie was much better. I found Rose a much more sympathetic and appealing character than Syke, there were so surprises in the second movie, and seeing the entity at the end of the second was for me much less scary than the first. I did, though, think the scene with the back up dancers in the apartment was one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
That kind of was the point of the second movie. Rose was more aware & found out what was going on, while Skye could not because she had literally no one around her to inform her what this thing was & how she could stop it.
Really? I thought the dancers were kinda funny. It was like they were dancing towards her instead of simply chasing her which I thought felt a little silly. Only when they started physically attacking her did it feel scary for me especially when the one dancer like reached his whole arm into her mouth and down her throat
Spoiler below. I saw it a few days ago and I had a lot of fun with it. I usually frown on jump scares but these were done well. I did figure out the ending half way through, but I was second guessing myself because how would that ending play out for sequels (ya know there will be another, they make too much and cost little to make). Turns out I was right, and... Spoiler: The demon gains control and kills Skye onstage in front of thousands. So, how does that play out for the entity? Can it afflict that many at once? I am hoping they dont go the prequel route in order to avoid the issue.
I feel its one entity but if it infects all of them then it just makes it more difficult to kill and it gets to feed off multiple people but in the end he'd gobble them all up and go back to singles 😂
i personally really liked the ending because when she emerges from the prop piece in the stadium i thought she had actually succeeded because for the first time the fans are nothing but positive and unwavering support only for it to be taken away. I always like it when the movie ends on a grim note because it lets those feelings fester
It's crazy how I was just thinking "man that guy really looks like Jack Nicholson" then you mention that's his son.. There are some golden acting genetics in that family
What happens if the target doesn't feel fear or isn't afraid of anything. Maybe they could add a new entity that seems evil but actually is trying to help but seing this creature has a form that causes the person to go insane. I agree there was nothing new added to this movie, the most that was different was who the target was and what they saw.
I love that he said his dad doesnt talk about acting so much; i understood it like hes not acting as his father, he actually is so he wants to have a 'normal' relationship with his son, and doesnt want that relationship to revolve around hollywood/acting....I like that and its really sweet because some actors kids get the opposite
The quality of the production and editing in your videos is top class mate, it’s one thing that makes me immediately recognise it’s a video of yours! You are making A grade videos for us and I appreciate it immensely 👌 (Isn’t it funny that we use the word ‘Videos’ when that format hasn’t been used in many years 😂)
If you paid attention you can see the entity did reveal more of its reasoning. Including enjoying the unique aspects of people’s minds, wearing their skin, and using them in an artistic way to pass itself on. It’s fun for it to craft unique ways to dig into someone’s minds, fears and insecurities. The girl in the first movie also attempted to face her fears head on, but that didn’t do anything. As it said, you can’t run away from your own mind. I think trying to escape the demon is their first issue.
So… serious question. Take someone like me. Combat vet. 2 deployments. Route clearance. I’ve seen ALOT of gnarly shit that would mentally scar people for life, and I sleep like a baby. Does this entity affect me? I feel like my autism would protect me
No reason to think it wouldn’t. Maybe you aren’t repressing fear of being a combat vet, but we are all afraid of something. The smile entity will find it and turn up the volume on it.
If I'm not mistaken. I think the entity tries searching for a compatible host along the way. It may have insight, and with its skinwalking abilities, it creates a suitable situation for people who aren't necessarily weak but susceptible to those negative thoughts.
Just in case so i understand it,in the movie at the end when she dies while looking at the crowd of fans, would that mean that everyone who was there is cursed now??😅
That's the implication, whether everyone is afflicted with the same entity OR this is a way for it to reproduce is something we'll see in a third film.
@@DanielGenis5000 I think there is probably a difference between seeing somebody unaliving themselves up close one-on-one (more or less) and fans watching their idol on stage unaliving themselves... Compared to a random person just randomly commiting suicide out in the open in front of strangers. It seems like there needs to be a degree of trauma for the victim to become infected and maybe that's not guaranteed. I'm not saying it couldn't infect people like that but maybe it's much less fruitful for it and more harmful in the long run. Just spitballing here.
@@DanielGenis5000 I have two ideas here 1) spreading to so many would dilute its potency for a time making it only worth it if the crowd is big enough OR 2) this is the first time it has had the opportunity to infest a celebrity.
Honestly, i think skye didnt last a day because the dress she wears is the one she truly hates because of the scar and with all the trauma shes dealing with is truly beyond anything anyone can handle. Realisticly, the trauma entity probably easily took control but in order to truly torment and have "fun" with Skye it unironcially made a fake world to get its fill while also controlling her body to get on stage and commit the act in front of her fans. Ofc i could be wrong and the whole, "in le head" is a bad way to do it. But none the less was a really great movie
I think the entity took over her reality fully at the point where it shoved its arm down her throat. It couldn't kill her there because she was alone. Plus it probably wanted a bit more fun
@@moses9647 tbh I noticed a lot that the trauma entity was more hands on (literally) skye. There was the first instance when it forced her to smile and she blacked out, then there was that scene when the arm was going into her mouth, and then there was the climatic fight when it tried to enter her body when it was pretending to be Skye, and finally entering her body. Goes to show it was being more aggressive towards her and not only that but many times throughout the movie, a lot of reality doesn't make sense but I don't want to type a whole essay lol
Yeah, she did a really good job as far as her acting. She was believable, the emotions seemed genuine. Newer movies disappoint me all the time nowadays 😂 but she did good
If dude does a smile-pocalypse for number 3 i'll actualy applaud him. then its solved when a group of people with shades and masks band together to figure out how/what/where this thing is coming from. if he can get 4-5 people who can act through masks and shades very well, then it actualy might be a good number three.
@@Tubewatcherdude I do wish he'd do a full video. Not Kimba level, but like 20 minutes. I know he's going through a lot though, so I'm not too worried about his output. Hope he's just doing well
The ad campaign? With the celebs and that damn look? Brilliant. I wish more films were advertised like this. Clever, smart, and provocative without being illegal. Probably cost a fair penny, but nothing like a superbowl commercial.
I like how the demon commands the room when it’s time for the death to happen. Skye tried to scoot away from Lewis but she couldn’t move it froze her there until he died and then she scooted back to the wall. At the end when she’s about to kill herself on stage the crowd goes silent and just freeze there until she starts to hit herself but they can’t stop watching. It forces itself onto others
Smile 2 was my first entry into this series and I was pleasantly surprised. I thought this movie was amazing especially because of my thoughts on being famous and my thoughts on what it means to be a celebrity. I thought Naomi Scott did a fantastic job portraying Skye Riley.
I thought the smile movie suck. One demon entity transferring to a human. Nothing can ever compare to good horror flicks like Halloween, the Fog... Old-school horror.
I thought it was a great sequel, equally if not better than the original thanks to Naomi Scott's performance. Not to take anything away from Sosie Bacon's acting in the first film, this one just dialed the entity's torment up to 11 making Skye's terror so much more visceral. Really looking forward to what they'll do in the inevitable third film.
It would have been better if she actually somehow escaped the Demon instead of the cliché. The second I seen a famous person got the curse I knew EXACTLY where the ending was going
I did like the movie a lot, but it doesn't really explore any new material with the curse. I like what they did with the story, but I am hoping Smile 3 is about a cursed person trying to transfer the curse video killing someone and failing, or maybe even succeeding but accidently passing it to someone they care about and having to get them to kill someone.
Who do you think would win, the demon creature thing in this movie or the demons in the evil dead. So its more like a virus but it seems you can't get rid of this entity, maybe if your blind you might have a chance. Maybe this thing could fight Freddy Kruger.
Wanted to write and say I was wrong about the thumbnail, FCE replied and explained its origins as a non-spoiler for the sequel. I thought the original comment I left, since wrong, wasn't nice to leave up but I will leave this one saying thanks to FCE for reaching out with a straight-shot answer; my bad for misunderstanding the context.
I thought this film was awesome until the ending happened, I really didn't like it because it implies that THE ENTIRE FILM was basically an hallucination which sure, will make some people happy, but me? I don't like being reminded of Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2 and it's awful last act. And that's what this film did.
@@kingkontinuumbut she has the same outfit as when she was in the changing room. It’s like the demon took control of her the moment he made her smile in the mirror
Worst ending ever. It’s crazy how a great film can be ruined by such a stupid ending. It’s clear now to me, the writers didn’t know how to end the film, and didn’t have the creativity to find a way to play out the “we have to kill you” plot line to confront the demon etc. easy way out, it was all in her head!! Nothing matters. Breaks the rules of the first film. Kinda lame. 5/10 for me because I don’t want to rewatch it, it feels pointless. I’ll watch the first film again which was compelling. Shame because Naomi Scott did a phenomenal job.
in my opinion sequels tend to be inferior to the original for a few reasons: - they're made to cash in on a successful idea that was unique and made out of passion. sequels are often made out of $$$ - larger budgets. the thing that makes original horror movies like the first smile or the first Saw or the original Jo-on movies was their simplicity and lower budgets. people had to get creative. larger budgets just means that the studio will be more on edge and be more involved, scared to lose their investment, try to put in "what the chart says" instead of allowing the creative vision to take its shape, which causes the movie many times to fail and flop, causing the studio to lose money. it's a self fulfilling prophecy most of the times For some reason even after several decades seems like studios haven't gotten the idea that big budgets doesn't mean good successful films
The way I saw it was what Evil Dead did. I am interested to see what direction they're going with how MSG saw the death however, I think they may run into issues like how S1 of the Leftovers experienced, it's just to massive of a story. I agree that it was disappointing it was a rehash but I had more jump scares with this one. Also some of the shots in Smile 2 are impressive, especially the aerial shots because they couldn't use a drone (NYC has a no fly zone) and I can't think of a public flight service that got that close to some of the buildings.
so in a way, Skye is the worst person ever? Kinda like a Hellraiser: Inferno situation where there 'protagonist' is getting what he deserves for what they did to someone? And then cursing hundreds if not thousands of people at the end? I feel like that's a pretty apt satire of modern pop culture music
I think 🤔....... that the ending is more than a little stupid, I mean yeah now the demon has a whole amphitheatre of victims, hypothetically, and I say that cause apart from the bare bones tactics of the curse/demon , we don't know what the rules are governing it's actions and motivations , and what it can and can't do, and that was with a single person to person transmission of it , we don't know how it could work if you take one person's affliction of this thing and pass it to thousands, possibly over million in an instant. If multiple people are infected, are they immune to passing it to each other and forced to go find others to infect? Are they not and what are they now double infected? In the words of Jeremy from CinemaSins : what are the rules man ? What are the rules? In his bid to up the ante on his horror sequel, I feel like this guy neglected to even explain how this thing works on even a small scale, where imo it works best, and goes global with out giving people a sense of understanding/ direction for what this demon /curse should be.
Yeah I didn’t like the ending either. Also a large part of what makes up this particular demon is the loneliness that comes with the curse, only one person experiences it at a time and everyone else who has had it is either dead or locked away. The community aspect doesn’t make sense on many levels and just lessens the impact of the monster design. Or it was meant as _another_ “syke u thought”-moment, which would equally cheapen the movie. Visually nice, story-wise lame af
who knows, my theory is maybe the entity gets weakened as it cannot spread itself too widespread as compared to a single host, it becomes unstoppable , maybe having many people infected can help delay the killing process of the smile curse ? Yeah the infected group finds a solution to end it once and for all 🤔
why does the smile movies both have former house MD employees? i mean if anyone i know house could diagnose it so it fits.. just think it's funny how both Taub and Kutner are both in the cinematic universe.
Gemma was never in the movie but if the movie follows Skye's mother and assistance then Gemma might return. But there is also a possibility that the demon can go on someone who is a psychopath. I think the entity will be weaker on Pseudobulbar affect (PBA) people. Think of the Joker for example who might of had that disorder
These movies play like parody. They're incredibly funny, and cartoonish. I'm still not sure they're supposed to be horror. Only in the modern world could smiling at someone be scary. Just goofy.
I wasn't sure if Gemma near the start was real or not and I don't think anything in her car chase illusion could be taking as reliable (the call from the 'real Gemma' might not mean anything because that entire sequence was in her head anyway). BUT I thought it was strange that Gemma when she first came over told her not to tell anybody she saw the guy beat himself with the weight because it would look bad for Skye. I think it was maybe the demon didn't want anybody to be able to connect Skye to the previous victim and was trying to cover its tracks. I kind of thought that Gemma would think she should come clean.
It can’t be. It’s a psionic plague that spreads from mind to mind, existing only within the confines of someone’s skull and influencing them through their own bodies instead of manifesting itself physically. To kill it, you’d have to trap it inside of yourself and then die before it can spread to someone new, but as we’ve seen, it _will not_ allow that to happen. It influenced Joel at the very beginning to ensure that, no matter what his intentions were, it would not be passed to someone who “deserved” it. Only _innocent_ souls can satisfy its hunger, souls unbroken at first but shattered by its abuse over time. Now that’s gone viral thanks to Skye’s little stunt, I don’t think there’s any way to truly kill it anymore. You’d have to kill all of mankind just to starve it, and it’ll do that on its own, in its own sweet time.
That's the issue, it can't be killed. It's a demon/entity that haunts the victim and breaks them down. However, if there was ever to be another movie, I would hope that the protagonist discovers the demon's lore and how to banish it
If it can interact with the physical world and cause things to happen, then the physical world must also be able to interact with this thing and harm it in some way.
If they wanted a sequel, it should have been about the protagonist finding the origin, lore and details about the creature. Ultimately failing to stop it but passing along details to someone else to finish their work.
I think the sequel doing that kinda ruins the mystery of the first. Some sequels (like Dead Space 2) do the expansion of the creature well, but there are a lot of movies and shows that ruin what made the antagonist so good, the mystique
The mystery is what makes it good. Once you start explaining everything then it gets pretty lame. There are too many movies that do that with sequels and it turns into crap.
@jakedizzle I'm not saying give up the full breakdown. Maybe the character could know things the audience doesn't but we support their struggle to solve it and try to gues what they know based on their actions. Ultimately they fail and end up like all the rest while passing a notebook to someone. Or whatever.
Your concept is inevitably what makes things like this not scary. The fact that we cannot understand it’s origin or ultimately what it’s goal is is precisely what makes something like this interesting and scary
I don't think anything was real after she complained about the costume showing her scar. For the show to go on, she couldn't have actually made all those mistakes in real life.
(purely fictional speculation) Curious, is transferring really the solution? I fear with such a parasite, the only "cure" is a quarantine and starve solution ... (Not unlike a Zombie Bite situation) to early on find a isolated location before it completely warps your sense's, and make the ultimate sacrifice. (One that ideally leaves as little of your body intact as possible) A regretful situation for you as you are basically already doomed, but hopefully contributes to cutting off the spread... And even that might not work. Very Horror (Remember to care for your Mental health everyone, and take advice from licensed practitioners over random sources from the Internet!)
Yea I’ve been breaking this demon down to the smile. This thing really is dumb that it only now just figured out it could do itself in around multiple people.
What would happen if Alexithymia meets Smile? Or make it someone who already overcome their ptsd who can fight back? That' would be best ending for series/demon.
WARNING: NAOMI SCOTT SINGER, SONGWRITER, CHOREOGRAPHER, PIANIST, DANCER, ACTRESS. INDIA/BRITTISH-SHE PULLS OFF AN AMERICAN ACCENT LIKE NO OTHER. EDUCATED GENUINE AMBASSADOR IN THE UK THERE HASNT BEEN TALENT LIKE THIS IN DECADES. SHE BRINGS IT AND DELIVERS. NAOMI SCOTT.
Lol. They mustve put in quite a bit of investment cause she was literally guzzling that stuff...it almost felt like they specifically wrote dialogue to get more of it in scenes
Now the only thing is it seem to need a witness to past around. What if someone was able to basically chain themselves down to not move. And removed there tongue' arms leg's. Just basically become a tied down numb. It couldn't move on then... Id suck. But you either lock it to that person. Or it faded away.
Rather than mutilating myself I'd rather just get put into a coma... You could also lock yourself in a concrete room with a steel door that has a timer for 10 days. Just setup an IV drip so you don't die from dehydration.
So this is like the horror version of it follows instead of guys/girls getting some they get bodied instead I can see how one was popular enough to make a opposite version for horror fans.
I loved the first on it was brilliant but this second one really disappointed me. They could have done so much more with it and they just completely dropped the ball imo.
I love these movies but I feel doing any more would definitely stretch the concept way too thin and ruin the franchise. I could always be proven wrong, but I'd rather it end on a high note than a sad whimper.
I wonder if there will be a sequel to this movie or not. If anything, they could go the prequel route. Any movie after this one I feel would just be too repetitive.
Like you I love the performances and the anxiety driven structure but the plot was predictable along with its ending. The horror hidden in every day life feels terrifying as your loved ones warp and are used as weapons against you.
They could clash the entity with a violent sociopath who doesn't not feel fear or a person who has a rage/anger entity symbiotically latched to him leading to a violent and terrifying battle between rage and fear. That's my idea for Smile 3.
It would be like ringu vs Sadako
So inverted Inside Out
That doesn’t sound good. Might as well make an entirely different movie.
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@@jakedizzle Right that really wouldn't work...even a sociopath would falter under a demons possession 😂 they're still human at the end of the day
The character Morris may or may not even be real! I can't help but feel like the entity tricked Skye into thinking he's real, thus giving her false hope.
First meeting with Morris was real.
Everything was real up to the point after Skye refuse to go with Morris that following night to get rid of the curse entity , when the dancers went after skye in her apartment scene, that was the beginning of the downfall
I think he was real the first time and that time was the only chance for her to fight it. Why would the entity possibly give her an idea to beat them?
Smile is the epitome of the sure statement: hurt people, hurt people lol
Honestly the moment the mother had no reaction when she walked in the room and Gemma was standing there, I knew she wasn't real.
Me too; they have her say hi to the mom, but the mom never replies back, which triggered my "Tyler Durden" radar. Then after that I noticed she never talks to any of the other actors and knew for sure.
Yep. The mother encouraged Skye to reach out she would’ve had a reaction to finally seeing Gemma especially if a large amount of time had passed by
Soon enough it's going to be on a, 'things you missed,' list
Excellent review. I agree with you that the first movie was much better. I found Rose a much more sympathetic and appealing character than Syke, there were so surprises in the second movie, and seeing the entity at the end of the second was for me much less scary than the first. I did, though, think the scene with the back up dancers in the apartment was one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
That kind of was the point of the second movie. Rose was more aware & found out what was going on, while Skye could not because she had literally no one around her to inform her what this thing was & how she could stop it.
@@wildin8156 yeah Skye had no chance against the entity. She didn’t have someone to rely on like Rose did.
Ya them dancers were terrifying
Lady Gaga did a good job
Really? I thought the dancers were kinda funny. It was like they were dancing towards her instead of simply chasing her which I thought felt a little silly. Only when they started physically attacking her did it feel scary for me especially when the one dancer like reached his whole arm into her mouth and down her throat
Spoiler below.
I saw it a few days ago and I had a lot of fun with it. I usually frown on jump scares but these were done well. I did figure out the ending half way through, but I was second guessing myself because how would that ending play out for sequels (ya know there will be another, they make too much and cost little to make).
Turns out I was right, and...
Spoiler:
The demon gains control and kills Skye onstage in front of thousands. So, how does that play out for the entity? Can it afflict that many at once? I am hoping they dont go the prequel route in order to avoid the issue.
Soo it doesn't warp reality? It just makes illusions to the person?
It was boring and fucking stupid.
@@SpikeTheWolfyep, it just warps the host’s reality not anyone around them or the world
I feel its one entity but if it infects all of them then it just makes it more difficult to kill and it gets to feed off multiple people but in the end he'd gobble them all up and go back to singles 😂
That's when you jump ship and let some other director handle the large scale BS that you set up for them
i personally really liked the ending because when she emerges from the prop piece in the stadium i thought she had actually succeeded because for the first time the fans are nothing but positive and unwavering support only for it to be taken away. I always like it when the movie ends on a grim note because it lets those feelings fester
It's crazy how I was just thinking "man that guy really looks like Jack Nicholson" then you mention that's his son.. There are some golden acting genetics in that family
“Relentless, anxiety inducing rollercoaster” is the best way I’ve heard this movie described as.
What happens if the target doesn't feel fear or isn't afraid of anything. Maybe they could add a new entity that seems evil but actually is trying to help but seing this creature has a form that causes the person to go insane. I agree there was nothing new added to this movie, the most that was different was who the target was and what they saw.
I love that he said his dad doesnt talk about acting so much; i understood it like hes not acting as his father, he actually is so he wants to have a 'normal' relationship with his son, and doesnt want that relationship to revolve around hollywood/acting....I like that and its really sweet because some actors kids get the opposite
The quality of the production and editing in your videos is top class mate, it’s one thing that makes me immediately recognise it’s a video of yours! You are making A grade videos for us and I appreciate it immensely 👌
(Isn’t it funny that we use the word ‘Videos’ when that format hasn’t been used in many years 😂)
If you paid attention you can see the entity did reveal more of its reasoning. Including enjoying the unique aspects of people’s minds, wearing their skin, and using them in an artistic way to pass itself on. It’s fun for it to craft unique ways to dig into someone’s minds, fears and insecurities. The girl in the first movie also attempted to face her fears head on, but that didn’t do anything. As it said, you can’t run away from your own mind. I think trying to escape the demon is their first issue.
Great timing! Just finished watching this one a couple hours ago.
Maybe entity likes to break down their targets mental state similar to Pennywise it's salting the meat. Maybe scaring their target adds flavor
So… serious question. Take someone like me. Combat vet. 2 deployments. Route clearance. I’ve seen ALOT of gnarly shit that would mentally scar people for life, and I sleep like a baby. Does this entity affect me? I feel like my autism would protect me
I'd tend to be more scared of people like you than a giant smile demon.
@@hambone1141 as an armchair psychologist, maybe you are used to it.
Everybody is au tis tic nowadays.
No reason to think it wouldn’t. Maybe you aren’t repressing fear of being a combat vet, but we are all afraid of something. The smile entity will find it and turn up the volume on it.
If I'm not mistaken. I think the entity tries searching for a compatible host along the way. It may have insight, and with its skinwalking abilities, it creates a suitable situation for people who aren't necessarily weak but susceptible to those negative thoughts.
Just in case so i understand it,in the movie at the end when she dies while looking at the crowd of fans, would that mean that everyone who was there is cursed now??😅
That's the implication, whether everyone is afflicted with the same entity OR this is a way for it to reproduce is something we'll see in a third film.
Why didn’t the entity not multiply itself this way before?
@@DanielGenis5000 I think there is probably a difference between seeing somebody unaliving themselves up close one-on-one (more or less) and fans watching their idol on stage unaliving themselves...
Compared to a random person just randomly commiting suicide out in the open in front of strangers.
It seems like there needs to be a degree of trauma for the victim to become infected and maybe that's not guaranteed.
I'm not saying it couldn't infect people like that but maybe it's much less fruitful for it and more harmful in the long run.
Just spitballing here.
it means the curse/entity had a plan to curse Sky to kill herself in less than a week in front of a crowd of fans to traumatize them.
@@DanielGenis5000 I have two ideas here 1) spreading to so many would dilute its potency for a time making it only worth it if the crowd is big enough OR 2) this is the first time it has had the opportunity to infest a celebrity.
Honestly, i think skye didnt last a day because the dress she wears is the one she truly hates because of the scar and with all the trauma shes dealing with is truly beyond anything anyone can handle.
Realisticly, the trauma entity probably easily took control but in order to truly torment and have "fun" with Skye it unironcially made a fake world to get its fill while also controlling her body to get on stage and commit the act in front of her fans.
Ofc i could be wrong and the whole, "in le head" is a bad way to do it. But none the less was a really great movie
I think the entity took over her reality fully at the point where it shoved its arm down her throat. It couldn't kill her there because she was alone. Plus it probably wanted a bit more fun
@@moses9647 tbh I noticed a lot that the trauma entity was more hands on (literally) skye. There was the first instance when it forced her to smile and she blacked out, then there was that scene when the arm was going into her mouth, and then there was the climatic fight when it tried to enter her body when it was pretending to be Skye, and finally entering her body.
Goes to show it was being more aggressive towards her and not only that but many times throughout the movie, a lot of reality doesn't make sense but I don't want to type a whole essay lol
I can't stop thinking of the Joker sequel as I watch this review. It's the Lady Gaga vibes of the lead.
Great video. Loves this movie. I think it had fun moments and the jittery camera angles really make the atmosphere very scary!
Yeah, she did a really good job as far as her acting. She was believable, the emotions seemed genuine. Newer movies disappoint me all the time nowadays 😂 but she did good
Happy to see you reviewing this Smile sequel. Happy Halloween 🎃 to you
Hope people go watch this before watching this vid, it's so good guys.
If dude does a smile-pocalypse for number 3 i'll actualy applaud him. then its solved when a group of people with shades and masks band together to figure out how/what/where this thing is coming from. if he can get 4-5 people who can act through masks and shades very well, then it actualy might be a good number three.
The director saw the video of Adam YMS smiling in the shower and said “I can make a franchise out of this”
Seriously, it's so goofy. I can't wait to see Adum talk about it.
@@kazumahazeuzumaki He did, he made a quickie about the first move and makes fun of the trailer for the sequel
@@Tubewatcherdude I do wish he'd do a full video. Not Kimba level, but like 20 minutes. I know he's going through a lot though, so I'm not too worried about his output. Hope he's just doing well
also, the fact that "The Ring" reboot got a sequel is amazing
The ad campaign? With the celebs and that damn look? Brilliant. I wish more films were advertised like this. Clever, smart, and provocative without being illegal. Probably cost a fair penny, but nothing like a superbowl commercial.
Jack Nicholsons kid seems like a good dude!
2nd one is way better than the first.
I describe Smile and it's sequel as "The Ring" meets "It Follows"
I like how the demon commands the room when it’s time for the death to happen. Skye tried to scoot away from Lewis but she couldn’t move it froze her there until he died and then she scooted back to the wall. At the end when she’s about to kill herself on stage the crowd goes silent and just freeze there until she starts to hit herself but they can’t stop watching. It forces itself onto others
Creature looks so goofy with no context
Context doesn't change it all that much. Still goofy.
This movie was great, and brother please continue with the podcasts with your two mates, they were sooooo good.
Smile 2 was my first entry into this series and I was pleasantly surprised. I thought this movie was amazing especially because of my thoughts on being famous and my thoughts on what it means to be a celebrity. I thought Naomi Scott did a fantastic job portraying Skye Riley.
Makes me wonder what would happen if the entity got latched onto someone like Ghost Rider, Dead Pool, Saitama, or Danny Phantom?
Can you do art the clown please ??? Also great video you are the best ✌️✌️
I thought the smile movie suck. One demon entity transferring to a human. Nothing can ever compare to good horror flicks like Halloween, the Fog... Old-school horror.
ok not sure why but Naomi felt like she was operating on all cyclinder in this movie! I've seen her before but she really nailed the pop star!
16:36 I don't want to say the old lady had it coming, but I will say she snuck up on someone who was having an episode sooo
You should cover the Spanish movie The Coffee Table. Truly haunting.
A good smile deserves at least 2 movies 😂
I love this entity so much that I don’t want it to be defeated😂
Grey knight vs. the smile entity would be completely one sided
I thought it was a great sequel, equally if not better than the original thanks to Naomi Scott's performance. Not to take anything away from Sosie Bacon's acting in the first film, this one just dialed the entity's torment up to 11 making Skye's terror so much more visceral. Really looking forward to what they'll do in the inevitable third film.
It would have been better if she actually somehow escaped the Demon instead of the cliché. The second I seen a famous person got the curse I knew EXACTLY where the ending was going
I did like the movie a lot, but it doesn't really explore any new material with the curse. I like what they did with the story, but I am hoping Smile 3 is about a cursed person trying to transfer the curse video killing someone and failing, or maybe even succeeding but accidently passing it to someone they care about and having to get them to kill someone.
I disagree about the jump scares. I feel like they work with this movie, giving the audience a taste of what the protagonist is going through.
It seems this one was a bit of a "whooosh" for FIlmComicsExplained. Must have not eaten his snickers.
Can you explain
I loved the Alfredo character
I always thought Paul and Skye crashed into Joel at the beginning of the movie 😭
Who do you think would win, the demon creature thing in this movie or the demons in the evil dead. So its more like a virus but it seems you can't get rid of this entity, maybe if your blind you might have a chance. Maybe this thing could fight Freddy Kruger.
The moral of the story is to stay away from friends who look like crackheads.
Wanted to write and say I was wrong about the thumbnail, FCE replied and explained its origins as a non-spoiler for the sequel. I thought the original comment I left, since wrong, wasn't nice to leave up but I will leave this one saying thanks to FCE for reaching out with a straight-shot answer; my bad for misunderstanding the context.
Straight away, dem shaders 😎
I thought this film was awesome until the ending happened, I really didn't like it because it implies that THE ENTIRE FILM was basically an hallucination which sure, will make some people happy, but me? I don't like being reminded of Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2 and it's awful last act. And that's what this film did.
You’re misinterpreting it because the entire film is not a hallucination- only after she’s knocked out in her apartment
@@kingkontinuumbut she has the same outfit as when she was in the changing room. It’s like the demon took control of her the moment he made her smile in the mirror
Worst ending ever. It’s crazy how a great film can be ruined by such a stupid ending. It’s clear now to me, the writers didn’t know how to end the film, and didn’t have the creativity to find a way to play out the “we have to kill you” plot line to confront the demon etc. easy way out, it was all in her head!! Nothing matters. Breaks the rules of the first film. Kinda lame. 5/10 for me because I don’t want to rewatch it, it feels pointless. I’ll watch the first film again which was compelling. Shame because Naomi Scott did a phenomenal job.
I interpreted it as after the dancer sequence, everything was a hallucination. Not the the entire film...
Can It actually take over ppl? Or only the host??
in my opinion sequels tend to be inferior to the original for a few reasons:
- they're made to cash in on a successful idea that was unique and made out of passion. sequels are often made out of $$$
- larger budgets. the thing that makes original horror movies like the first smile or the first Saw or the original Jo-on movies was their simplicity and lower budgets. people had to get creative. larger budgets just means that the studio will be more on edge and be more involved, scared to lose their investment, try to put in "what the chart says" instead of allowing the creative vision to take its shape, which causes the movie many times to fail and flop, causing the studio to lose money. it's a self fulfilling prophecy most of the times
For some reason even after several decades seems like studios haven't gotten the idea that big budgets doesn't mean good successful films
The way I saw it was what Evil Dead did. I am interested to see what direction they're going with how MSG saw the death however, I think they may run into issues like how S1 of the Leftovers experienced, it's just to massive of a story. I agree that it was disappointing it was a rehash but I had more jump scares with this one.
Also some of the shots in Smile 2 are impressive, especially the aerial shots because they couldn't use a drone (NYC has a no fly zone) and I can't think of a public flight service that got that close to some of the buildings.
so in a way, Skye is the worst person ever? Kinda like a Hellraiser: Inferno situation where there 'protagonist' is getting what he deserves for what they did to someone? And then cursing hundreds if not thousands of people at the end? I feel like that's a pretty apt satire of modern pop culture music
It was a decent movie...until the end. My god! I was almost left speechless how bad that ending was.
I loved the movie but I couldn’t help but laugh at the monster at the end. The eyes make it look comedic
I think 🤔....... that the ending is more than a little stupid, I mean yeah now the demon has a whole amphitheatre of victims, hypothetically, and I say that cause apart from the bare bones tactics of the curse/demon , we don't know what the rules are governing it's actions and motivations , and what it can and can't do, and that was with a single person to person transmission of it , we don't know how it could work if you take one person's affliction of this thing and pass it to thousands, possibly over million in an instant.
If multiple people are infected, are they immune to passing it to each other and forced to go find others to infect? Are they not and what are they now double infected?
In the words of Jeremy from CinemaSins : what are the rules man ? What are the rules?
In his bid to up the ante on his horror sequel, I feel like this guy neglected to even explain how this thing works on even a small scale, where imo it works best, and goes global with out giving people a sense of understanding/ direction for what this demon /curse should be.
Yeah I didn’t like the ending either. Also a large part of what makes up this particular demon is the loneliness that comes with the curse, only one person experiences it at a time and everyone else who has had it is either dead or locked away. The community aspect doesn’t make sense on many levels and just lessens the impact of the monster design. Or it was meant as _another_ “syke u thought”-moment, which would equally cheapen the movie. Visually nice, story-wise lame af
who knows, my theory is maybe the entity gets weakened as it cannot spread itself too widespread as compared to a single host, it becomes unstoppable , maybe having many people infected can help delay the killing process of the smile curse ? Yeah the infected group finds a solution to end it once and for all 🤔
@@Superheroes_UnitedMaybe it’s just got Hollywood ambitions, who knows
That Face in the title screen is the thing of nightmares
why does the smile movies both have former house MD employees? i mean if anyone i know house could diagnose it so it fits.. just think it's funny how both Taub and Kutner are both in the cinematic universe.
Gemma was never in the movie but if the movie follows Skye's mother and assistance then Gemma might return. But there is also a possibility that the demon can go on someone who is a psychopath. I think the entity will be weaker on Pseudobulbar affect (PBA) people. Think of the Joker for example who might of had that disorder
These movies play like parody. They're incredibly funny, and cartoonish. I'm still not sure they're supposed to be horror. Only in the modern world could smiling at someone be scary. Just goofy.
I wasn't sure if Gemma near the start was real or not and I don't think anything in her car chase illusion could be taking as reliable (the call from the 'real Gemma' might not mean anything because that entire sequence was in her head anyway).
BUT I thought it was strange that Gemma when she first came over told her not to tell anybody she saw the guy beat himself with the weight because it would look bad for Skye.
I think it was maybe the demon didn't want anybody to be able to connect Skye to the previous victim and was trying to cover its tracks.
I kind of thought that Gemma would think she should come clean.
I know i brought this up several times....but can you cover Harvester. The 1996 video game.
Man this demon doesn’t play fair at all.
How can it be killed? That's all that interests me.
It can’t be. It’s a psionic plague that spreads from mind to mind, existing only within the confines of someone’s skull and influencing them through their own bodies instead of manifesting itself physically. To kill it, you’d have to trap it inside of yourself and then die before it can spread to someone new, but as we’ve seen, it _will not_ allow that to happen. It influenced Joel at the very beginning to ensure that, no matter what his intentions were, it would not be passed to someone who “deserved” it. Only _innocent_ souls can satisfy its hunger, souls unbroken at first but shattered by its abuse over time. Now that’s gone viral thanks to Skye’s little stunt, I don’t think there’s any way to truly kill it anymore. You’d have to kill all of mankind just to starve it, and it’ll do that on its own, in its own sweet time.
That's the issue, it can't be killed. It's a demon/entity that haunts the victim and breaks them down. However, if there was ever to be another movie, I would hope that the protagonist discovers the demon's lore and how to banish it
If it can interact with the physical world and cause things to happen, then the physical world must also be able to interact with this thing and harm it in some way.
The elder gods
@@SpikeTheWolf that might work. I must consult the elder gods brb
If they wanted a sequel, it should have been about the protagonist finding the origin, lore and details about the creature. Ultimately failing to stop it but passing along details to someone else to finish their work.
I think the sequel doing that kinda ruins the mystery of the first. Some sequels (like Dead Space 2) do the expansion of the creature well, but there are a lot of movies and shows that ruin what made the antagonist so good, the mystique
The mystery is what makes it good. Once you start explaining everything then it gets pretty lame. There are too many movies that do that with sequels and it turns into crap.
@jakedizzle I'm not saying give up the full breakdown. Maybe the character could know things the audience doesn't but we support their struggle to solve it and try to gues what they know based on their actions.
Ultimately they fail and end up like all the rest while passing a notebook to someone. Or whatever.
Your concept is inevitably what makes things like this not scary. The fact that we cannot understand it’s origin or ultimately what it’s goal is is precisely what makes something like this interesting and scary
@@bigdadybojangls9219 Exactly. Fear of the unknown
If someone smiles at you in a creepy way, run and don’t look at them.
I don't think anything was real after she complained about the costume showing her scar. For the show to go on, she couldn't have actually made all those mistakes in real life.
i truly hope the Drew Barrymore of that universe is safe 🙏
They should link this to the It Follows universe and/or others with entities that are passed on like a virus.
Aphex Twin - the movie.
If you know some of the AFX music videos you understand. :D
(purely fictional speculation)
Curious, is transferring really the solution?
I fear with such a parasite, the only "cure" is a quarantine and starve solution ... (Not unlike a Zombie Bite situation)
to early on find a isolated location before it completely warps your sense's, and make the ultimate sacrifice. (One that ideally leaves as little of your body intact as possible)
A regretful situation for you as you are basically already doomed, but hopefully contributes to cutting off the spread... And even that might not work.
Very Horror
(Remember to care for your Mental health everyone, and take advice from licensed practitioners over random sources from the Internet!)
Niyat, when are we getting your final breakdown of Rings of Power season 2?
Yea I’ve been breaking this demon down to the smile. This thing really is dumb that it only now just figured out it could do itself in around multiple people.
That closet scene was very well done getting ganged up on like that would suck
What a crap demon if it can only traumatize someone for a week before it has to change hosts
This might be a strange thing to cover, but what about The Tommyknockers miniseries?
What would happen if Alexithymia meets Smile? Or make it someone who already overcome their ptsd who can fight back? That' would be best ending for series/demon.
WARNING: NAOMI SCOTT SINGER, SONGWRITER, CHOREOGRAPHER, PIANIST, DANCER, ACTRESS. INDIA/BRITTISH-SHE PULLS OFF AN AMERICAN ACCENT LIKE NO OTHER. EDUCATED GENUINE AMBASSADOR IN THE UK THERE HASNT BEEN TALENT LIKE THIS IN DECADES. SHE BRINGS IT AND DELIVERS. NAOMI SCOTT.
"Too much violence" in a movie about violence, lol.
They Follow should have a brief news segment talking about a pop singer **cide on stage.
First one was hilarious
Choose joy
Smile was like a poorman's The Ring. 2 was no different. Only it's also a Voss Water commercial.😂 Like how Power Rangers was to Krispy Kreme
the real villain is voss water
Lol. They mustve put in quite a bit of investment cause she was literally guzzling that stuff...it almost felt like they specifically wrote dialogue to get more of it in scenes
It's actually hilarious to me that without looking into or being interested in this movie at all - I knew what the ending would be.
Can you do More Mass Effect and Marvel Lore
Now the only thing is it seem to need a witness to past around. What if someone was able to basically chain themselves down to not move. And removed there tongue' arms leg's. Just basically become a tied down numb. It couldn't move on then... Id suck. But you either lock it to that person. Or it faded away.
Rather than mutilating myself I'd rather just get put into a coma...
You could also lock yourself in a concrete room with a steel door that has a timer for 10 days.
Just setup an IV drip so you don't die from dehydration.
So this is like the horror version of it follows instead of guys/girls getting some they get bodied instead I can see how one was popular enough to make a opposite version for horror fans.
I had a stroke reading ts
@@jebaited.9479 my work here is done 🤣
I loved the first on it was brilliant but this second one really disappointed me. They could have done so much more with it and they just completely dropped the ball imo.
Next movie: Smile Apocalypse
I love these movies but I feel doing any more would definitely stretch the concept way too thin and ruin the franchise. I could always be proven wrong, but I'd rather it end on a high note than a sad whimper.
I wonder if there will be a sequel to this movie or not. If anything, they could go the prequel route. Any movie after this one I feel would just be too repetitive.
Like you I love the performances and the anxiety driven structure but the plot was predictable along with its ending. The horror hidden in every day life feels terrifying as your loved ones warp and are used as weapons against you.
27:21 duuuuh they gotta milk this . wait till smile 3 😂
Imo the first was much better.