First I tried it on yesterday and the build quality isn't ok, or alright it's excellent. You also missed the main difference between the old ETA movement that was used, which is that this one has a 70 hr power reserve plus a number of upscale improvements. I love the ETA but this is a big upgrade. Lastly I agree Breitling has to stop using the term Manufacture it's a Tudor/Rolex's in house manufactured movement. But to be completely fair Tutor has to stop it at the other end with the B01 they are getting from Breitling they call the B01 manufacture. .
There’s nothing wrong with them saying it’s “manufacture” movement. It just means that it’s not one of those run of the mill ETAs or Sellitas. It doesn’t necessarily need to be their own manufacture movement, just something special to justify the price.
Sorry your wrong term " Manufacture" has meant for years that the movement is made by that company that made the watch. Secondly there is nothing run of the mill about ETA movement you find them in a vast number of high end Swiss watches for years. I have two watches with ETA movement for over 20 yrs and they are extremely accurate workhorses.
@@robertsullivan4773 maybe think of it in this way: Breitling exchanged their in-house B-01 for MT5612, so in some way, it can be considered in-house🤔. If Breitling had changed their B13 for MT5612, B20 wouldn't be called manufactured.
@@jeffgu1211 funny since I made that comment I've purchased the Breitling Super Ocean Heritage.42mm B20 Red gold bezel. Stunning watch and I've made peace that the movement is Tudor. Pretty much for the reason you said. 😊
Great video of a great watch. What's your wrist size? I think it's best you mention it all the time so we have an idea of the size relative to our wrists.
I own a few other dive watches(Omega, Tag, Oris) and this one is by far my favorite. It’s fit and finish is top notch, looks great, is comfortable(it has the best mesh bracelet I’ve ever seen) and has a great movement. BTW, the movement is made by Kenissi who besides Tudor and Breitling makes movements for Tag and Chanel. The company is co-owned by Tudor(80%) and Chanel(20%).
Commercial saturation divers. Dive to 280M. Maximum.. And rarely.. However pro dive watches used in SAT diving must have a helium escape valve.. Otherwise the crystal will pop during decompression..
Water resistance to 200 meters make the watch a diver. The bling design makes it a desk diver. 200 meters is over 600. Just for the record expert skin diving is limited to I believe 125 feet after that your saturation diving. I own this watch in black and red gold. It's stunning in the bracelet or the rubber strap. Again for the record all Breitlings are chronometer rated whether in house or using modified ETA movements.
I had this watch in 46mm (ETA 2892 and aluminium bezel), sold it after 4 years, too big on my 17.5cm wrist, about 7in. Originally I thought about replacing it with this SOH II 42 but decided against it eventually. Yeah it's an ok watch, just not exciting enough for me, main reason being I prefer badass divers rather than dressy ones.
@@MAGNATEOfficial I actually have 18cm/7in flat wrists they're 6cm wide. The SOH46 is 55mm lug to lug, so very little margin compared to the 60mm wrist width. If I was to get another SOH I'd go for 42mm.
I would argue the chronometer spec ETA is a slightly better movement - I tested my Breitling with the Tudor against several non chronometer ETA spec watches - not a lot of difference but the ETA has less variation in accuracy with changes in orientation and generally are on average around 2 secs a day better - this is influenced by my one Squale Bronze which only gains 15-20 secs a month!!!!!! The 70 hours power and the instantaneous date change are cool features of the Tudor movement.
Idk about you, but i keep mine accurate all month, depending on what position i leave it to rest at night, at times i see it gained 2 seconds after a week, and sometimes lose a second or two. The only time i unscrew the crown is to set the date at the end of the month of less than 31 days, otherwise it is insanely accurate.
Ha, I have same "problem". If I have money, i would buy both versions :) But I like a little bit more black. In my opinion black with silver braceler looks more classy.
Too expensive for what it is! I also talked to them at the Breitling boutique in my town last week - when I said that I actually scubadive and would want to take it diving, they panicked and steered me to their 2000m diver, which was cheaper. I said that I only go down to 30m (40m really!) they were adamant: do NOT dive with the Superocean. I was left a bit mystified...
Sounds like pure bullshit - sales persons usually dont know what they are talking about. If its WR to 20 bar, its WR to 20 bar and you can take it scuba diving. Heck... you cand scuba dive with a Aqua Terra, which has 15 bar... The reason i dont buy at local stores anymore... because they are talking shit...
It lacks crown guards and a proper beautiful hour hand (sword hand) And remove the date. Can't read that date without glasses anyways, I've tried. It's pretty much the sole reason why I went with another brand that has magnification window over the date wheel.
As far as I know, B20 movement doesn't have a silicon balance spring, which means less resistance to magnetic fields (unlike the original Tudor movement) Also, if "true diver" words are thrown around, it also needs a lumed seconds hand, just sayin :)
Happy Burger as someone who owns this Timepiece and wears it everyday, I can assure you magnetism is an overexposed issue. I work in the industry and we possibly receive one or two watches every six months with magnetism issues. It's a five seconds fix and doesn't require much thought. Whatever watch you love, wear it and enjoy it.
@@tonyl7000 Silicon is more brittle and less resistant to shock ..... it took me a lot of reading to get to this conclusion. It is likely to be more sales pitch than obvious advantage.
I've never paid attention to the second hand when diving, and the lack of numbers wouldn't bother me either. Divers should always count conservatively when calculating decompression times.
The diver I use in the ocean is the Super Ocean Abyss 1500, much more sturdy, with far better rubber strap and glidelock. A great diver from Breitling, with a perfect ETA. I only use it for that and paid 3300 $. Now, think this one is more a casual leisure watch (clumsily passing for a diver), but too expensive and lack of personality. Either go for a real diver, or then a casual sportswatch. This one is too "hybrid".
breitlings have horrible resale value, you should demand 30% off the list price when buying new the marketing shenianigens turn me off as well, same with bremont, tag, etc
Their target isn't resellers... they sell to people who actually want to wear their watches. If you want new, you pay their price. If you don't mind used, go greymarket..
Beautiful watch but WAYYYY too much text on the dial. When will companies learn? put unimportant shit on the back. 200m / 660 ft is not necessary on the front. The damn name is SuperOcean... 1. logo 2. name 3. chronometre cert / automatic that's it.
Why? I've never used or paid attention to the second hand when diving. Usually, I set the bezel and dive, looking at stuff underwater, like fish, not my watch. If I'm looking at my equipment, I'm looking at my depth and air gages.
@@matthewbell9517 I understand Matthew. I did dive a couple years ago. However, a dive watch has to get a second hand lumed because this is the only way you will be sure it runs properly, meaning you can rely on it under water. But for this particular dive watch, as it is vintage inspired, I guess it is not that big of a deal.
jfasamurai16 it’s not about being a nerd... it’s about actually being able to go underwater with a so called dive watch. 100M water resistance doesn’t mean you can really go underwater without taking a risk... 200M you can dive, but not with bottles, just like to 5-10M... so yeah... 300M is for basic diving. The guy in the video is freaking clueless and probably thinks you can dive 200M underwater with a 200M water resistance watch. Not like I would use a 3000€ watch for snorkeling anyways
Lucky Strike yeah you can definitely go snorkling with a 100m watch but I’d stay at the surface and wouldn’t go check stuff at 5m underwater... I would with a 200m. But I would definitively not wear a 200m when I go scuba diving... therefore I have a problem with watches called « dive watches » with those specs... They are swim watches.
@@augustinf No. WR on watches goes like this: 50m: surface, no submergence (showers/washing hands etc); 100m: Surface submergence (bath, swimming, surface snorkelling); 200m: Dive watch (Freediving and SCUBA); 300m: mixed gas, deep SCUBA and decompression diving; 600m: Commercial and saturation diving; >600m: Marketing hype - get a ROV. This watch is fine for SCUBA, though lacks lume and numbered bezel for serious use.
@@jameshoward9700 great definitions. So many on watch blogs understand water resistance of watches and it starts with understanding depth in meters and feet. Two meters is 660 feet. Your way out of snorking and Skin diving this watch will has all but saturation diving covered. It's the bezel that limits it to desk diving it has no numbers.
46 would be a mess. The 42 is spot on.
I think this 42 looks great but I am a bigger guy so I might pick up the 46. My wrist is pretty large.
First I tried it on yesterday and the build quality isn't ok, or alright it's excellent. You also missed the main difference between the old ETA movement that was used, which is that this one has a 70 hr power reserve plus a number of upscale improvements. I love the ETA but this is a big upgrade. Lastly I agree Breitling has to stop using the term Manufacture it's a Tudor/Rolex's in house manufactured movement. But to be completely fair Tutor has to stop it at the other end with the B01 they are getting from Breitling they call the B01 manufacture. .
Officially Tudors name for the movement is Manufacture Calibre MT5612. I think that is why they use the term.
I love mine in the same color and specs as this one, it is just perfect on my 17cm wrist, gets lots of admiring glances and copliments.
Nice ! congrats on having a great watch, I am considering picking one up.
I have a 7 1/4 inch wrist yet I feel the 44mm is the sweet spot for me. Other watches ranging from 40-42mm work well , it just depends.
one of the best looking blue dial watches for sure.
check out Christopher Ward blue dive watch, the dial, hands, and sane pricing, I do not understand why people pay so much just for a brand name
FP Journe Chronometre Bleu... or Omega Deville Tourbillion = blue grail... just to name a couple.
@@amitfromisrael5006 that's luxury for you. You don't NEED a watch. You have your phone or you can just buy a quartz.
Amit from Israel That‘s a very jewish thing to say.
I have the bronze/bronze 46mm version with a mesh bracelet. I love it and the mesh bracelet is very comfortable
There’s nothing wrong with them saying it’s “manufacture” movement. It just means that it’s not one of those run of the mill ETAs or Sellitas. It doesn’t necessarily need to be their own manufacture movement, just something special to justify the price.
Sorry your wrong term " Manufacture" has meant for years that the movement is made by that company that made the watch. Secondly there is nothing run of the mill about ETA movement you find them in a vast number of high end Swiss watches for years. I have two watches with ETA movement for over 20 yrs and they are extremely accurate workhorses.
@@robertsullivan4773 maybe think of it in this way: Breitling exchanged their in-house B-01 for MT5612, so in some way, it can be considered in-house🤔. If Breitling had changed their B13 for MT5612, B20 wouldn't be called manufactured.
@@jeffgu1211 funny since I made that comment I've purchased the Breitling Super Ocean Heritage.42mm B20 Red gold bezel. Stunning watch and I've made peace that the movement is Tudor. Pretty much for the reason you said. 😊
Very nice review! Refreshing as most reviews I’ve seen lately are simple spec dumps. Good job!
Great video of a great watch. What's your wrist size? I think it's best you mention it all the time so we have an idea of the size relative to our wrists.
I own a few other dive watches(Omega, Tag, Oris) and this one is by far my favorite. It’s fit and finish is top notch, looks great, is comfortable(it has the best mesh bracelet I’ve ever seen) and has a great movement. BTW, the movement is made by Kenissi who besides Tudor and Breitling makes movements for Tag and Chanel. The company is co-owned by Tudor(80%) and Chanel(20%).
i really like this watch
Commercial saturation divers. Dive to 280M. Maximum.. And rarely.. However pro dive watches used in SAT diving must have a helium escape valve.. Otherwise the crystal will pop during decompression..
Love this watch!
Really considering getting one I just love this watch, It looks really good on the rubber to
@@WatchUnwind among other brand this is one of the best looking one!
Stunning watch. Wrists of 7.25 and above? Get the 44mm.
yup 44mm is a perfect size
Thanks I was wondering about that with my 7.25 inch wrist. I looking to get the black and gold one.
thinking about getting the 46
This or Tudor gmt ? That’s my pick for my next watch
Water resistance to 200 meters make the watch a diver. The bling design makes it a desk diver. 200 meters is over 600. Just for the record expert skin diving is limited to I believe 125 feet after that your saturation diving. I own this watch in black and red gold. It's stunning in the bracelet or the rubber strap. Again for the record all Breitlings are chronometer rated whether in house or using modified ETA movements.
I had this watch in 46mm (ETA 2892 and aluminium bezel), sold it after 4 years, too big on my 17.5cm wrist, about 7in. Originally I thought about replacing it with this SOH II 42 but decided against it eventually. Yeah it's an ok watch, just not exciting enough for me, main reason being I prefer badass divers rather than dressy ones.
I have the same wrist size, would you recommend the 42 or the 44?
@@MAGNATEOfficial I actually have 18cm/7in flat wrists they're 6cm wide. The SOH46 is 55mm lug to lug, so very little margin compared to the 60mm wrist width.
If I was to get another SOH I'd go for 42mm.
Very nice looking watch.
For the price it needs a better clasp
tynan nida i so agree with you. I got it on rubber because the clasp is so much better and adjusts on the fly
the rubber strap version has a better clasp, I am not sure why they did not use the same clasp on both editions.
No you don't I've used this clasp for three years it works perfectly.
I would argue the chronometer spec ETA is a slightly better movement - I tested my Breitling with the Tudor against several non chronometer ETA spec watches - not a lot of difference but the ETA has less variation in accuracy with changes in orientation and generally are on average around 2 secs a day better - this is influenced by my one Squale Bronze which only gains 15-20 secs a month!!!!!! The 70 hours power and the instantaneous date change are cool features of the Tudor movement.
Idk about you, but i keep mine accurate all month, depending on what position i leave it to rest at night, at times i see it gained 2 seconds after a week, and sometimes lose a second or two. The only time i unscrew the crown is to set the date at the end of the month of less than 31 days, otherwise it is insanely accurate.
Do you like the blue over the black? Im not sure which to get.
Ha, I have same "problem". If I have money, i would buy both versions :) But I like a little bit more black. In my opinion black with silver braceler looks more classy.
Only the Blue! That‘s a stunner!
Too expensive for what it is!
I also talked to them at the Breitling boutique in my town last week - when I said that I actually scubadive and would want to take it diving, they panicked and steered me to their 2000m diver, which was cheaper. I said that I only go down to 30m (40m really!) they were adamant: do NOT dive with the Superocean. I was left a bit mystified...
Sounds like pure bullshit - sales persons usually dont know what they are talking about.
If its WR to 20 bar, its WR to 20 bar and you can take it scuba diving.
Heck... you cand scuba dive with a Aqua Terra, which has 15 bar...
The reason i dont buy at local stores anymore... because they are talking shit...
It lacks crown guards and a proper beautiful hour hand (sword hand) And remove the date. Can't read that date without glasses anyways, I've tried. It's pretty much the sole reason why I went with another brand that has magnification window over the date wheel.
Hi, the bezel is aluminium ot ceramic ¿
Ceramic
As far as I know, B20 movement doesn't have a silicon balance spring, which means less resistance to magnetic fields (unlike the original Tudor movement)
Also, if "true diver" words are thrown around, it also needs a lumed seconds hand, just sayin :)
true but I've heard that silicon parts don't hold up as well though.
Happy Burger as someone who owns this Timepiece and wears it everyday, I can assure you magnetism is an overexposed issue. I work in the industry and we possibly receive one or two watches every six months with magnetism issues. It's a five seconds fix and doesn't require much thought. Whatever watch you love, wear it and enjoy it.
@@tonyl7000 Silicon is more brittle and less resistant to shock ..... it took me a lot of reading to get to this conclusion. It is likely to be more sales pitch than obvious advantage.
I've never paid attention to the second hand when diving, and the lack of numbers wouldn't bother me either. Divers should always count conservatively when calculating decompression times.
The diver I use in the ocean is the Super Ocean Abyss 1500, much more sturdy, with far better rubber strap and glidelock. A great diver from Breitling, with a perfect ETA. I only use it for that and paid 3300 $. Now, think this one is more a casual leisure watch (clumsily passing for a diver), but too expensive and lack of personality. Either go for a real diver, or then a casual sportswatch. This one is too "hybrid".
Divided between this and the seamaster 300m 2018 model
Ashi Seamaster 100%
Boss 1290 yup ordered it the other day, so excited!
Ashi awesome bro congrats!
Boss 1290 thx man!
For four months I could not decide between these two but I got the Breitling and love it.
breitlings have horrible resale value, you should demand 30% off the list price when buying new
the marketing shenianigens turn me off as well, same with bremont, tag, etc
Their target isn't resellers... they sell to people who actually want to wear their watches. If you want new, you pay their price. If you don't mind used, go greymarket..
JogBird agreed
S Lo grey market doesn't mean used.
If you're buying a watch to resell why you buying it in the first place
if you buy grey market , they are fine for resale wont lose that much , but when I buy a watch i generally dont plan on selling it
Beautiful watch but WAYYYY too much text on the dial. When will companies learn? put unimportant shit on the back. 200m / 660 ft is not necessary on the front. The damn name is SuperOcean...
1. logo
2. name
3. chronometre cert / automatic
that's it.
S Lo Breitling website shows the new 44mm versions with just logo, name and Superocean. The date wheel is also color matched. Looks great!
A true dive watch would have a second hand lumed. 200m is fine for diving
Why? I've never used or paid attention to the second hand when diving. Usually, I set the bezel and dive, looking at stuff underwater, like fish, not my watch. If I'm looking at my equipment, I'm looking at my depth and air gages.
@@matthewbell9517 I understand Matthew. I did dive a couple years ago.
However, a dive watch has to get a second hand lumed because this is the only way you will be sure it runs properly, meaning you can rely on it under water. But for this particular dive watch, as it is vintage inspired, I guess it is not that big of a deal.
water resistance nerds lmao
jfasamurai16 it’s not about being a nerd... it’s about actually being able to go underwater with a so called dive watch. 100M water resistance doesn’t mean you can really go underwater without taking a risk... 200M you can dive, but not with bottles, just like to 5-10M... so yeah... 300M is for basic diving. The guy in the video is freaking clueless and probably thinks you can dive 200M underwater with a 200M water resistance watch. Not like I would use a 3000€ watch for snorkeling anyways
Lucky Strike yeah you can definitely go snorkling with a 100m watch but I’d stay at the surface and wouldn’t go check stuff at 5m underwater... I would with a 200m. But I would definitively not wear a 200m when I go scuba diving... therefore I have a problem with watches called « dive watches » with those specs... They are swim watches.
@@augustinf No. WR on watches goes like this: 50m: surface, no submergence (showers/washing hands etc); 100m: Surface submergence (bath, swimming, surface snorkelling); 200m: Dive watch (Freediving and SCUBA); 300m: mixed gas, deep SCUBA and decompression diving; 600m: Commercial and saturation diving; >600m: Marketing hype - get a ROV. This watch is fine for SCUBA, though lacks lume and numbered bezel for serious use.
James Howard that’s basically what I said, you are just adding specifics
@@jameshoward9700 great definitions. So many on watch blogs understand water resistance of watches and it starts with understanding depth in meters and feet. Two meters is 660 feet. Your way out of snorking and Skin diving this watch will has all but saturation diving covered. It's the bezel that limits it to desk diving it has no numbers.
This is the most underwhelming review I’ve ever seen lol
Would you recommend a freshly-shaved wrist before wearing? Lol...jk
The hour hand is to big
shit watch Seiko kills sthis.
Get your facts straight, the B20 movement are only used in chronographs, the movement in the watch you are reveuwing are a Tudor movement.