Absolutely wonderful film. I used to live nearby 30 years ago, long after closure, but I ran along many bits (probably about as fast as the trains - certainly up the Hopton incline!)
I can well remember those two locos at work on the line. Hopton Incline was a sight to behold when a train took a flat out run at it! The North London tanks always looked spectacular there because they looked as though it was a time warp. The J94s were just about on their last legs by the time the line was closed but they put up some great shows on the brakevan specials. Talk about going out in a blaze of glory! Sad days but splendid memories of an age coming to it's end. Real steam working on revenue earning trains. Sadly I fear not much profit to be made in the last few years of operation but they gave us lads a lot of great memories!
To think of all the time,effort and engineering skill to build such lines as these,and we in the modern century come along and rip it all up with scarcely a thought of the future. Progress-my arse!
Thank you. I lived in Ashbourne from 1970 to 1977 and explored much of the High Peak, including the trackbeds around Parsley Hay. Quite seriously, they were some of the happiest days of my earlier life.
Wonderful and remarkable footage and certainly the best I have seen on the line . Very well shot , with a great eye for detail , the film captures the the essence of the line , the country if passed through , the unique gradients and the struggling locos . Superb !!!!!
OMG that's the best C&HPR I have seen. The tapered chain is only seen on the Bowes footage until now for me. Best wishes and kindest regards. Thank you
Lovely to see this, and a co-incidence. I have just cleared out some old mags, and found one with a picture of Sam Buckley on the back cover. I never met Sam, but when donating a computer to the British Association of Myasthenics, I met his son and daughter-in-law, who told me that he was the last person to drive a train over Hopton Incline. The other drivers kept stalling it, but Sam got the job done.
You can tell that this was filmed near the end of steam by the terrible state of locomotives at the time. Even once proud top link locos were rusting away, filthy, leaking steam and relegated to goods. It was a sad time.
Fantastic footage of an area and line I know well (not as a working concern, alas). One very minor quibble - it's Longcliffe, not Longtown, but this film is superb - thank you.
You are correct Oops ! Don't know how that happened I shall correct it thanks for pointing it out ! Longtown was a station on the Waverly route where I once filmed an Ivatt 2-6-0 returning with the Langholm branch goods.
Best part is at time mark 11:20. Look at photographer staying in front of running train. This, today will cause major incident (and mandatory train stop). These days people trust more each others, today is 6 foot fence along railways ;)
Those were the days !!!! No orange jackets, no yellow lines, no lineside ropes. We KNEW to look out and be careful. Now everyone treats us like babies.
On the last weekend of this line's operation, we visited Buxton MPD and met some friendly loco crew at Buxton MPD, whom we advised would be out on the line on the following day (its very last day of operation). One of these gentlemen said, "I know - I'm the driver!". Possibly three of us slept most uncomfortably in the back of a friend's Mini Traveller. Fortuitously, the kind driver from the previous day at once recognised me and sounded perhaps the best set of whistles I ever taped... Looking back, I had also climbed very high up a steep-sided cutting and to have lost my footing would not have ended at all well...
W😮W - This is old - when was this film made??? A few years ago I've actually cycled along this old line - This is amazing footage - thanks for sharing!!! 😊🚂🚂🚂
Just wonder at the top of the first incline whether or not the steam plant for the incline could also 'pre fill' locomotives with hot water/steam for a fast start to the day. Something Union Pacific did at there Laramie and Cheyenne depots to get a loco ready to go over the hill
Hello Brian, As far as I am aware charging locomotives with hot water/ steam in the UK was only practiced on "Fireless" locomotives which were employed on shunting duties in industrial sites where there was a risk of fire. There was however a practice at some main line sheds of using hot water for the periodic washing out of boilers. By doing so the lengthy cooling down and warming up requirement was avoided which shortened the time that the loco would otherwise be out of service. Peter.
Absolutely wonderful film. I used to live nearby 30 years ago, long after closure, but I ran along many bits (probably about as fast as the trains - certainly up the Hopton incline!)
Marvelous, the best video of the C&HPR I've seen. Thank you for sharing
I can well remember those two locos at work on the line. Hopton Incline was a sight to behold when a train took a flat out run at it! The North London tanks always looked spectacular there because they looked as though it was a time warp. The J94s were just about on their last legs by the time the line was closed but they put up some great shows on the brakevan specials. Talk about going out in a blaze of glory! Sad days but splendid memories of an age coming to it's end. Real steam working on revenue earning trains. Sadly I fear not much profit to be made in the last few years of operation but they gave us lads a lot of great memories!
To think of all the time,effort and engineering skill to build such lines as these,and we in the modern century come along and rip it all up with scarcely a thought of the future. Progress-my arse!
Very good colour and definition for 8 mm. Thanks for posting.
Thank you. I lived in Ashbourne from 1970 to 1977 and explored much of the High Peak, including the trackbeds around Parsley Hay. Quite seriously, they were some of the happiest days of my earlier life.
What a great film. Having cycled much of the route in recent years this puts it all in a clear historical context. Thanks for sharing.
Wonderful and remarkable footage and certainly the best I have seen on the line . Very well shot , with a great eye for detail , the film captures the the essence of the line , the country if passed through , the unique gradients and the struggling locos . Superb !!!!!
Walking the line this century is wonderful. The countryside is beautiful in this area.
Superb video many thanks for sharing it
Wow! Thanks for that, and very well edited too!
Possibly my favourite video, just found your account! Keep it up some amazing footage
Delightful filming in bitter weather. A fascinating system. Thanks
Quality footage,thanks
Thanks for sharing 👍♥️
ahhh thanks so much! i had this VHS as a kid and never could find the exact one on RUclips
What a Document!
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
OMG that's the best C&HPR I have seen. The tapered chain is only seen on the Bowes footage until now for me.
Best wishes and kindest regards.
Thank you
Fantastic
Fantastic!!!
Lovely to see this, and a co-incidence. I have just cleared out some old mags, and found one with a picture of Sam Buckley on the back cover. I never met Sam, but when donating a computer to the British Association of Myasthenics, I met his son and daughter-in-law, who told me that he was the last person to drive a train over Hopton Incline. The other drivers kept stalling it, but Sam got the job done.
You can tell that this was filmed near the end of steam by the terrible state of locomotives at the time. Even once proud top link locos were rusting away, filthy, leaking steam and relegated to goods. It was a sad time.
Fantastic footage of an area and line I know well (not as a working concern, alas).
One very minor quibble - it's Longcliffe, not Longtown, but this film is superb - thank you.
You are correct
Oops ! Don't know how that happened I shall correct it thanks for pointing it out !
Longtown was a station on the Waverly route where I once filmed an Ivatt 2-6-0 returning with the Langholm branch goods.
@PeterHutchinson-jc6wv It wasn't quite the Waverley route was it, the CHPR? A technological world away! 😂
Keep up the great work.
Best part is at time mark 11:20.
Look at photographer staying in front of running train.
This, today will cause major incident (and mandatory train stop).
These days people trust more each others, today is 6 foot fence along railways ;)
Those were the days !!!! No orange jackets, no yellow lines, no lineside ropes. We KNEW to look out and be careful. Now everyone treats us like babies.
On the last weekend of this line's operation, we visited Buxton MPD and met some friendly loco crew at Buxton MPD, whom we advised would be out on the line on the following day (its very last day of operation). One of these gentlemen said, "I know - I'm the driver!". Possibly three of us slept most uncomfortably in the back of a friend's Mini Traveller. Fortuitously, the kind driver from the previous day at once recognised me and sounded perhaps the best set of whistles I ever taped... Looking back, I had also climbed very high up a steep-sided cutting and to have lost my footing would not have ended at all well...
W😮W - This is old - when was this film made??? A few years ago I've actually cycled along this old line - This is amazing footage - thanks for sharing!!! 😊🚂🚂🚂
Just wonder at the top of the first incline whether or not the steam plant for the incline could also 'pre fill' locomotives with hot water/steam for a fast start to the day. Something Union Pacific did at there Laramie and Cheyenne depots to get a loco ready to go over the hill
Hello Brian, As far as I am aware charging locomotives with hot water/ steam in the UK was only practiced on "Fireless" locomotives which were employed on shunting duties in industrial sites where there was a risk of fire. There was however a practice at some main line sheds of using hot water for the periodic washing out of boilers. By doing so the lengthy cooling down and warming up requirement was avoided which shortened the time that the loco would otherwise be out of service.
Peter.
@@PeterHutchinson-jc6wv I am not suggesting that the fill of water/steam is at pressure above atmospheric. But the pre-fill with a