There's so much going on with this band I don't know how anyone could be expected to break down their songs in one sitting, the drummer is so unbelievably good, the bass player is so bloody dynamic, and the guitarist plays such beautiful chord extensions, and that's before we even get to Tatiania's unreal vocals and her excellent performances. I haven't been so impressed with a band since I first heard Soundgarden or Pantera in the 90s.
She does use effects, BUT she doesn’t use any sort of “Pitch Shifter” (to lower tonality) nor does she use Any sort of “Distortion” (to make her voice sound harsher). None of the truly good metal Vocalists use either of the above to raise the quality of the vocalist. They use effects to add dynamics to the sounds, that’s it.
@@El_Gordo_Chechy haha, I want to say this to every reactor that says that, but most won’t understand what I’m talking about. I know the Mighty Decomposing Composer will. 😂 I completely understand the assumption though, simply because of how deep Tatiana’s growls/gutturals are for a woman, but not only that; her petite stature is logically contradictory to the fuckin’ MASSIVE tone that she produces.
Eugene answered this a while back. they use distortion in the studio on her voice to smooth it out but not live. they use a delay in studio and live also. she also does use the dredded mic cupping live as a tool to go lower. she just did an interview saying so. she does not use pitch correction or auto tune crap. in studio if you f up just do a retake. and live it is different depending on how she feels.
@@williamcody3415 yeah, I saw her interview recently. She doesn’t really do a whole lot of mic cupping during their live shows, the only time I noticed her doing that was toward the end of the set because she (and I along with everyone else) are wore the fuck out. I didn’t see the interview with Eugene, but I’ve seen them live a few times; they’re pretty damn close to the album sound (as much as any band is really).
@@williamcody3415 - Tatiana never said she cups the mic on purpose, it was the guy who interviewed her that made that assumption. She said that she holds the mic by the "head" because she doesn't want to look like an ESC contestant (or something similar) and the grip is better there. Holding the mic the way she does is not cupping. : )
Breath of fresh air for the Metal scene, lets all face it, we all were getting a bit stale and crusty, just like my 54 year old bones. Been over a decade, since some forward thinking musicians like Jinjer, and other bands who have been doing the underground slog, have finally transformed, and even transcended our favourite music genre. Jinjer are so tight musically, and so talented to be able to switch genres multiple times during a song, they blow me away. Tatiana will inspire so many vocalists, to try and compete at her level, but so will all the other members of the band. Thank you, for your breakdown of this song, and how much you have grown as a Metal connoisseur.
They posted a new video a few days ago for their song "Home Back". They do a jazz breakdown in the middle of it that is turning people's heads. The song is about the war in eastern Ukraine where they grew up.
@@deadcrow6888 the song is about them wanting to return to their home town. It's been in civil war for a while and they had to relocate to Kiev to stay away from it. It's pro communist and anti communist forces. The pros want to return to Russia...it's a whole thing, but the song speaks for them and their desires
It's not really any sort of harmonizer or plugin adding to her voice beyond the "standard" echo, reverb, and EQ etc that you do in the mixing process, all the harmonies are separate and they're just layered in the session. The growls are layered (low, mids, and highs usually), there's definitely some doubling, vocal harmonies etc at various points, but they're just punched in during recording like you would any kind of overdub. There's minimum 6 vocal tracks going on here for sure, a main vocal track, a main double, a harmony track, growl low, growl mid, gang vocals, perhaps the growls get doubled too to make them extra big and so you can pan them for some of that wide thickness, and possibly a seventh for the clean passage where the vocals drop in dynamics and a lot of the reverb etc seems to drop with it, but that could be done with automation too. So yeah there's studio magic going on, but not in terms of FX and plugins, more-so excellent mixing and layering skills with excellent source recordings from Tati and the instrumentation! Live she basically has to pick which vocal parts she's going to do since obviously she can't growl and clean sing at the same time, so like on the "mercy, mercy, merciful" line, the first two words are mid-growls, but merciful is layered clean with a growl, which you can do in studio, but live she growls all three words since her voice is sat in that range and she won't have to flip out of it for one word, only to drop back into growls on the next line.
I don’t think he said she USED a harmonizer. I believe he said that in that one section of the chorus, she COULD HAVE used one; that doing so would have made it sound more full.
Jinjervitis strikes again! huge rabbit hole...Perennial (live at Wakken), Who is Gonna Be the One? (Live), I Speak Astronomy, Judgement and Punishment (Tati's one take sing through, no effects video is phenomenal) ...to start with 😬
Yeah their studio versions of their music has a lot of layering going on. They even tend to do this during some of their live performances. This song specifically has 2 or 3 extra layers going on. If you listen carefully you can even hear some clean vocals going through her gutter vocals here and there. They've done an amazing job putting all of it together without making it sound chaotic.
I couldn't possibly love Hawaii any more and then I found your channel. It is such a treat to watch you give your first impression of these songs. Your humor and 🎶 experience never fails to entertain and deliver more clues as to why we love this music. Mahalo and happy holidays to you!
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I agree, a lot of electronic massaging in this video. It is definitely a studio recording and a music video in the form of a stage performance. Their live performances are much more impressive to me, because they demonstrate the talent of the band not the producer. I recommend Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal Performance for something different from the two Jinjer songs that you've already listened to.
You people are acting as if double tracking is cheating, or something. ALL of your favorite artists use double tracking in some/large capacity in the studio. And it doesn't matter if they're in 2020 or 1940. It's an incredibly old technique.
@@Quicksilver_Cookie - And many people act as if they're telling us something new, when it's so obvious that I seriously doubt no one hasn't already noticed.
They definitely are active in their production. It's bad ass, and it's cool that you're picking up on the detailed attention they're putting into their music.
I love people that are counting something in those Jinjer's chaotic beautiful structures ))))) While you are staying relaxed and enjoying every change )
Check out Tatiana's one take vocal performance of "Judgement and Punishment" and also Jinjer live at Wacken playing "Perennial". These two are really really good to knowing more about the band!
Gojira please! I think you would really like them. They're easily one of the best and most recognizable modern metal bands. I would suggest starting with either Flying Whales or The Gift of Guilt!
He has said in previous videos that we should include direct links to the video you want him to react to, makes it much easier for him. :) Quite often there are low quality audio versions floating around too.
Everyone focuses on the singer so much, you can really feel in these more recent releases the band (and singer) pushing against the stereotypes and stretching themselves musically. They are driven and so precise.
The passion for every piece you have draws me in every time!! I am old Sax player that grabbed an alto at the age of 8. Ever since that day I have felt every aspect of music. The goosebumps and true love of what music truly is that just puts out of you is amazing! I will now watch full time! Thank you so much!
This took my song of the year for 2019. Tremendous stuff. Vlad on the drums makes me smile with his reluctance to admit they've relented to some 4/4 for that huge sounding chorus. :) Describing Tatiana's vocal delivery as a "slam poetry" sound thru the verses is spot-on btw- kudos.
You hit the nail on the head with the vocal effects. They've stated in interviews that on the recordings they use post, live she only uses a delay and for certain tracks (perennial etc.) pre-recorded sections! Keep up the awesome work! You give a ton of insight to a young music lover, rock on!
I've enjoyed your reactions recently. I'm a big fan of Jinjer, Snarky Puppy, Porcupine Tree, Polyphia, Dream Theater, among many others. I'm a jazz guy myself. Didn't go into music, but most of my friends did. I was the only non-music major in my university jazz ensemble (trumpet, so really like Don Ellis for his crazy time signatures and Maynard Ferguson for his power). I really like the theory-based analysis you give. Keep it up! Band Maid is one you haven't done yet that has a good reaction following. Probably my favorite newish rock band. Domination (live) is a great one. Unleash the Archers is also awesome power metal. Otherwise, keep up your normal selection. You are batting a strong average on bands I like.
great ear on the whole step down, its drop A on a six string. The engineering on this track is genius, everything gets it own space. It is the same drummer as the Pisces video, to answer your question. It is also very common for harsh vocalists to double or even sometimes triple layer their tracks, for body and punch, and they typically use those same tracks for live performances as part of the backing tracks/effects. Keep the analysis coming, man, great to hear the insight!
Ignore the trolls. Say what u want and what u hear. That’s why we’re here. If some ppl r upset or don’t like it, they can go pound sand. Her voice is amazing and she doesn’t need plugins or effects to do what she does but they def layer her voice on studio tracks. Live she uses a little delay but that’s about it....but I’d highly recommend checking out more live stuff. Great reaction, stay genuine and bring on more Jinjer
There is a lot of Post preduction tricks done in the editing. But are wonderfully done in this song. However Tatianas ablity to hold the note and carry it through her changes even thou it may be many octives lower is truly the best part. The band is a whole different story. Amazing!
there are ofc effects and doubling. if its an issue watch "Judgement and punishment - one take vocals" if effects are getting in the way of nailing down her abilities.
There is postproduction in this video, you can hear it in the "merciful" part, there are two voices, one growling and other singing at the same time, probably from both sessions, there is also a part were the crowd growls, probably is from one of the shows, but its amplified and cleaned. There are a couple of pure live sessions, for example the full show on melbourne.
My favorite Jinjer song as a huge fan. This slow bridge is my favorite musical moment with infamous Rosetta Stoned bridge. When i hear both, instant goosebumps. AND i heard them a lot lol. Nice reaction as always :)
Also they use effects and this is pretty post produced song. Of course the live performance will be different as vocals(i saw them live last year) but it does not take away from the experience. There is no cheating in their music. Their live is as good as their recordings, different but beautiful in their own sense. I don't know why people obsess over these things. They give us amazing music both as album records and live. Why bother ourselves with these superficial things?
Because you mentioned Metalcore. In an Interview, Tatjana said they don't play Metal, but in general "Extreme Music", because they have both extreme heavy and extreme slow parts. Keep up your videos, love them
Don't worry so much about them using layering to their vocals. The "organic" sound the comments were referring to is that she can produce the growl without augmenting her voice. The vocal layering with the growls throughout the song is VERY common in metal. Most of the time it's for emphasis on words and you get a layering of the high pitched scream with a lower one. They reproduce it live by adding the one the vocalist isn't doing live to a backing track that's played with the song. Also that is the same drummer from pices!! He's been around for a quite a bit at this point so he's in most of their music videos. Love your reactions! Keep up up great work!
My Jinjer suggestion is a song called Ape! Either the one shot live or the official music video. Another suggestion is a song "No Hoard of Value" official lyric video! In my opinion thes are Jinjer's most underrated songs that have a great reaction potential!
@The Bullfrog those 2 are among my favorite tracks, seconded! But to be honest I love all their songs lol. (Except Waltz, sorry. Still an... ok track though).
@@Qyngali I love all there songs as well! My one exception is Bad Water! Yes it has a sick bass line, but the rest of the track falls short of my Jinjer standard.
@@thebullfrog5207 Would be boring if everybody liked the exact same things/songs/movies etc. :) I actually LIKE bad water haha, but more power to you for not.
Love your reactions my friend! You nailed so many things/thoughts that frankly others just will not! Time for an actual live performance! There are many.... "Perennial-Live at Wacken" is a good showcase of the band....and of course Tatiana's one take vocal performance on "Judgement and Punishment(has a little reggae mixed with Metal)" BTW I love that you don't focus on lyrics, to me that's what it should be. Focus on the whole package then maybe later on if wanted look at lyrics.
Really good video yet again! You definetly have to check out the one take vocal performance of "Judgement (&Punishment)" and also the live performance of "Perennial" at Wacken. See you in the next one :)
Great review / reaction! The overdub you hear is a percussive-style tapping on the bass to add texture. If we weren't all blown away by Tatiana's vocals we'd be mesmerized by the composition and arrangement of the music (not to mention the actual playing). This band is a powerhouse.
So in the slow section when you heard that second guitar, you're absolutely right. That's a backing track, also played by Roman. Live, IIRC, sometimes they include that backing track, other times they omit it and just let the chords ring. I think for the album version they had it to sort of keep the momentum of the song moving. Live, Tatiana gets the crowd clapping to keep the momentum up. See, Jinjer used to be a 5-piece. A lot of their older songs, therefore have two guitar parts, and they use the backing tracks to cover those parts. Moving forward, I think they probably just got used to that compositional style and the space-filling it's possible to do, so they still use it sometimes. I think I remember hearing them talk about considering adding a fifth member again to cover those extra parts live, but they said that they're just really comfortable with each other and happy with the dynamic they have, so they'd rather use a computer to fill in the extra parts here and there.
Yeah, I think people get a little touchy when it comes to Tatiana's vocal talent because a lot of reactors will sometimes try to discount her talent so quickly. The colloquial they will search for ways that she processes her voice and when they find things that any or all of the greatest male singers will also do, then they quickly point the finger. I don't think that's what you are doing at all. Great reaction! I'll say it, Tatiana's one of the greatest vocalists out there bar none.
For sure pls check out a live performance next! Perennial (live at Wacken), Who Is Gonna Be The One (live) and Judgement (& Punishment) one-take vocal performance are all excellent
Congratulations to the nice reactions you offer to us. I really enjoy this like all others I watched. Please keep on. It’s so interesting to listen to your analysis of the songs. To Jinjer: I totally agree and there are without a doubt layers/effects at different passages of the song. And I like it because it’s the Studio Audio Version of the Song. I’m not sure but I think they don’t layer „too“ much in their live performances- which are incredible. To get an impression of their stage performances you should pick „perennial“ live at Wacken. Also „Who is gonna be the one“ live is a very good example. Merry Christmas 🎁 🎄 to you and your family. Stay safe and healthy. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
I keep rewatching the part at 12:35 because it perfectly shows a first time listening to Jinjer. I can see your head move upwards, im guessing you were assuming where the song was going at that time, then they just deliver it perfectly where all anyone listening can do it just throw their hands knowing they just nailed it.
People sometimes don't understand effects. It can be something as simple as layering vocals, which Jinjer does do. There's also some echoing and reverb. Of course it's got effects guys. Every artist that produced and mixed has effects on their vocals. Her scream is organic, but to make recordings sound fuller they mix several recordings together.
I love listening to your deep knowledge of music and your openness to experience and breakdown all kinds of different genres. I had the same reaction to my first Jinjer experience as well. Hell of a voice! You have the perfect personality for these reaction videos. Keep on entertaining!
Excellent reaction! Jinjer don't like to be constrained by genre. They've said if they had to label themselves, it would probably be "Extreme Progressive."
You are correct in the phrasing style she uses many styles another of her influences is Gwen S. from No Doubt which you will see a few influences in a few other songs as well..
Great breakdown and analysis! I'm glad you picked the official video for this song. It's one of their few where the studio version slightly outdoes the live version, but only because of all of the little details that would be near impossible to do live, but that being said you should check out their live in Melbourne version of Teacher Teacher on your own. Their ability live makes it well worth the time. I'm sure many have suggested "Perennial live at Wacken" and agree that should be the next, but at some point check out "Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev". It is a personal favorite live recording of one of my favorite Jinjer songs.
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"Perennial"... live at Wacken... highly recommended...
The lyrics about nature's cycle are impressive... this is poetry.
Also about her depression too
The melody in the chorus, guaranteed "chicken skin"!
Beast of a video, mate
This!
You should see her perform Judgment and punishment one take. She's really just super talented.
Yep, it's a must-view now.
both that and perennial live at wacken. stunning. and then you will be truly ready to just submit to the will of jinjer. merry christmas
Ohh yes. You gotta give a reaction to that one. I actually think the one take version is better than the album version.
Watching them live 5 Meters in front of you is a whole new experience. One of the best I've seen
heck yea!
Jinjer ain't no joke. There's more talent in those 4 people than 99% of modern top 40 radio music
Producers seem more talented, especially in modern rap, than the artists themselves. It's ridiculous.
@@madcracker84 modern rap is a joke unless you're into Tom Macdonald...which I am
@@bwestacado9643 please tell me you're joking
@@jayys8278 I never joke about Tom Macdonald. If you aren't into his music, that's on you
Yall are listening to the wrong rap. Look up Chicago or London Drill.
Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 needs to be next
I second this motion!
100%
Yes!! Perennial must be next, it's epic!
100% agree, its a great showcase of how talented she really is.
@@chrishasafro not just her but the band as a whole!
There's so much going on with this band I don't know how anyone could be expected to break down their songs in one sitting, the drummer is so unbelievably good, the bass player is so bloody dynamic, and the guitarist plays such beautiful chord extensions, and that's before we even get to Tatiania's unreal vocals and her excellent performances. I haven't been so impressed with a band since I first heard Soundgarden or Pantera in the 90s.
Never heard anyone refer to this song as a "slam poetry" sound (during the verse), but it is very accurate, love it!
Well she was inspired by Otep.
She does use effects, BUT she doesn’t use any sort of “Pitch Shifter” (to lower tonality) nor does she use Any sort of “Distortion” (to make her voice sound harsher). None of the truly good metal Vocalists use either of the above to raise the quality of the vocalist. They use effects to add dynamics to the sounds, that’s it.
This.
@@El_Gordo_Chechy haha, I want to say this to every reactor that says that, but most won’t understand what I’m talking about. I know the Mighty Decomposing Composer will. 😂
I completely understand the assumption though, simply because of how deep Tatiana’s growls/gutturals are for a woman, but not only that; her petite stature is logically contradictory to the fuckin’ MASSIVE tone that she produces.
Eugene answered this a while back. they use distortion in the studio on her voice to smooth it out but not live. they use a delay in studio and live also. she also does use the dredded mic cupping live as a tool to go lower. she just did an interview saying so. she does not use pitch correction or auto tune crap. in studio if you f up just do a retake. and live it is different depending on how she feels.
@@williamcody3415 yeah, I saw her interview recently. She doesn’t really do a whole lot of mic cupping during their live shows, the only time I noticed her doing that was toward the end of the set because she (and I along with everyone else) are wore the fuck out.
I didn’t see the interview with Eugene, but I’ve seen them live a few times; they’re pretty damn close to the album sound (as much as any band is really).
@@williamcody3415 - Tatiana never said she cups the mic on purpose, it was the guy who interviewed her that made that assumption. She said that she holds the mic by the "head" because she doesn't want to look like an ESC contestant (or something similar) and the grip is better there. Holding the mic the way she does is not cupping. : )
Breath of fresh air for the Metal scene, lets all face it, we all were getting a bit stale and crusty, just like my 54 year old bones. Been over a decade, since some forward thinking musicians like Jinjer, and other bands who have been doing the underground slog, have finally transformed, and even transcended our favourite music genre. Jinjer are so tight musically, and so talented to be able to switch genres multiple times during a song, they blow me away. Tatiana will inspire so many vocalists, to try and compete at her level, but so will all the other members of the band. Thank you, for your breakdown of this song, and how much you have grown as a Metal connoisseur.
I think you would really love I Speak Astronomy by them. It’s a masterpiece. The song and the video 🖤
Yes!!
Yes! One of my all time favorite Jinjer songs.
They posted a new video a few days ago for their song "Home Back". They do a jazz breakdown in the middle of it that is turning people's heads. The song is about the war in eastern Ukraine where they grew up.
Shit made a tear roll down my face, I was reading the lyrics as I watched it. The song, and video production are nothing short of amazing.
That Blegh though...
@@deadcrow6888 the song is about them wanting to return to their home town. It's been in civil war for a while and they had to relocate to Kiev to stay away from it. It's pro communist and anti communist forces. The pros want to return to Russia...it's a whole thing, but the song speaks for them and their desires
@@bwestacado9643 I'm aware of the meaning, I did do some research.
@@bwestacado9643 The pro-communists want to return to non-communist Russia?
loving the in depth reaction instead of just listening passively like most reactioners, this way i can actually learn a thing or two about music!
Tatiana has mentioned Cyprus Hill as one of her musical influences, so the hip-hop rythm in the lyrics is not your imagination.
The entire band is just absolutely amazing.
when Tatiana sings in a clean and smooth manner, i melt. when she growls it energizes me
It's not really any sort of harmonizer or plugin adding to her voice beyond the "standard" echo, reverb, and EQ etc that you do in the mixing process, all the harmonies are separate and they're just layered in the session. The growls are layered (low, mids, and highs usually), there's definitely some doubling, vocal harmonies etc at various points, but they're just punched in during recording like you would any kind of overdub.
There's minimum 6 vocal tracks going on here for sure, a main vocal track, a main double, a harmony track, growl low, growl mid, gang vocals, perhaps the growls get doubled too to make them extra big and so you can pan them for some of that wide thickness, and possibly a seventh for the clean passage where the vocals drop in dynamics and a lot of the reverb etc seems to drop with it, but that could be done with automation too.
So yeah there's studio magic going on, but not in terms of FX and plugins, more-so excellent mixing and layering skills with excellent source recordings from Tati and the instrumentation! Live she basically has to pick which vocal parts she's going to do since obviously she can't growl and clean sing at the same time, so like on the "mercy, mercy, merciful" line, the first two words are mid-growls, but merciful is layered clean with a growl, which you can do in studio, but live she growls all three words since her voice is sat in that range and she won't have to flip out of it for one word, only to drop back into growls on the next line.
I don’t think he said she USED a harmonizer. I believe he said that in that one section of the chorus, she COULD HAVE used one; that doing so would have made it sound more full.
This. Normal modern vocal production.
Whoa. First time listening to Jinjer - thanks for introducing me to new music!
Jinjervitis strikes again! huge rabbit hole...Perennial (live at Wakken), Who is Gonna Be the One? (Live), I Speak Astronomy, Judgement and Punishment (Tati's one take sing through, no effects video is phenomenal) ...to start with 😬
it always blows my mind how she switches from harsh to clean vocals within the same breath in this song. crazy good stuff to my mind and ear.
Yeah their studio versions of their music has a lot of layering going on. They even tend to do this during some of their live performances. This song specifically has 2 or 3 extra layers going on. If you listen carefully you can even hear some clean vocals going through her gutter vocals here and there. They've done an amazing job putting all of it together without making it sound chaotic.
Enjoyed the reaction, there are so many brilliant Jinjer performances, Pit of Consciousness Live in Kiev is amazing.
Your musical understanding and open mindedness , is what makes your reaction interesting .
Don't stop your doing great
I couldn't possibly love Hawaii any more and then I found your channel. It is such a treat to watch you give your first impression of these songs. Your humor and 🎶 experience never fails to entertain and deliver more clues as to why we love this music. Mahalo and happy holidays to you!
Thank you so much!! Same to you and yours!
Great reaction! I would recommend Perennial live at Wacken 2019, or Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal. They are great live!
Who is gonna be the one Live is a must do! Amazing performance.
THEY ARE TUNED TO C#...THATS WHY ITS SO DN HEAVY...YES ITS THE SAME DRUMMER VLAD..WHO IS A PIANO PRODIGY..WAAY TALENTED...GOOD STUFF....PEACE FROM THE NORTHEAST..
The Judgement and Punishment vocal one take is her best showcase IMO. Extremely talented band all around.
The planets aligned when these 4 musicians came together! Best band on THIS planet!
I also used to listen to vocals just as an instrument. Jinjer got me to listen to the lyrics man, you should definitely check out Home Back.
I agree, a lot of electronic massaging in this video. It is definitely a studio recording and a music video in the form of a stage performance. Their live performances are much more impressive to me, because they demonstrate the talent of the band not the producer. I recommend Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal Performance for something different from the two Jinjer songs that you've already listened to.
Yes, and the video is from several concerts. Tatiana has several different outfits mixed throughout.
You people are acting as if double tracking is cheating, or something. ALL of your favorite artists use double tracking in some/large capacity in the studio. And it doesn't matter if they're in 2020 or 1940. It's an incredibly old technique.
I don't see anyone complaining. Many have initially thought it was a live video which it isn't.
@@Quicksilver_Cookie - And many people act as if they're telling us something new, when it's so obvious that I seriously doubt no one hasn't already noticed.
double tracking happens in literally every band that is nor amateur
Keep doing what you do Boss. Your "like" to "dislike" ratio is insane, so clearly you're doing it right!
This is an official video. This audio is actually the album version. If you're interested, listen to a live performance they're really good
WHo is gonna be the one live is a great one that shows off her live growling techniques.
They definitely are active in their production. It's bad ass, and it's cool that you're picking up on the detailed attention they're putting into their music.
I love people that are counting something in those Jinjer's chaotic beautiful structures ))))) While you are staying relaxed and enjoying every change )
I’m pretty sure they released this as a video release not a “live” performance or concert.
studio audio with video clips from 4 shows
correct. this is studio version with live footage as the music video.
@@JungleScene I don't think he said it was live at any time in the video...
Check out Tatiana's one take vocal performance of "Judgement and Punishment" and also Jinjer live at Wacken playing "Perennial". These two are really really good to knowing more about the band!
Gojira please! I think you would really like them. They're easily one of the best and most recognizable modern metal bands. I would suggest starting with either Flying Whales or The Gift of Guilt!
He has said in previous videos that we should include direct links to the video you want him to react to, makes it much easier for him. :) Quite often there are low quality audio versions floating around too.
@@Qyngali oh ok, thank you for letting me know! i will next time
@@trevorbook9529 Merry Christmas (if you celebrate that, or pick your alternative if applicable)! Stay safe.
@@Qyngali I had a good Christmas, hope you did as well!
Yes please gojira!
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Everyone focuses on the singer so much, you can really feel in these more recent releases the band (and singer) pushing against the stereotypes and stretching themselves musically. They are driven and so precise.
Amazing band. Jinjer has become one of my favorite bands. Such talented musicians.
Absolutely superb reaction, yes JINJER is something special~A true gem.
The drummer Vlad is a classically trained musician and plays several instruments. The university name escapes me at the moment, but it's true.
The passion for every piece you have draws me in every time!! I am old Sax player that grabbed an alto at the age of 8. Ever since that day I have felt every aspect of music. The goosebumps and true love of what music truly is that just puts out of you is amazing! I will now watch full time! Thank you so much!
Judgement and punishment one take will blow your mind. This whole band is fantastic as artist. Period.
I really enjoy the channel. Great reviews and a whole new perspective! Love Jinger!
You need to check them out in a totally live performance best starters for truly live are Perennial at Wacken 2019 and Who is Gonna Be the One.
Go Zips
Who Is Going To Be The One (live). Truly live, and amazing. My favorite live of there’s, hands down.
This is the album version of the song,but the video is actually 3 concert videos cut together.
This took my song of the year for 2019. Tremendous stuff.
Vlad on the drums makes me smile with his reluctance to admit they've relented to some 4/4 for that huge sounding chorus. :)
Describing Tatiana's vocal delivery as a "slam poetry" sound thru the verses is spot-on btw- kudos.
I love the way you break things down and it helps me appreciate these songs even more. Don't worry about the haters!
You hit the nail on the head with the vocal effects. They've stated in interviews that on the recordings they use post, live she only uses a delay and for certain tracks (perennial etc.) pre-recorded sections! Keep up the awesome work! You give a ton of insight to a young music lover, rock on!
The guys engineering for Jinjer use layering to awesome effect, sometimes clean on clean, sometimes clean/growl, love it
Also your reaction to her highest note...
Yeaup that’s why we love her. Just amazing and i can tell you agree
Love your reaction to jinjer. You are a nice man. Parennial should be next to react to. Merry christmas. Peter from London.
I've enjoyed your reactions recently. I'm a big fan of Jinjer, Snarky Puppy, Porcupine Tree, Polyphia, Dream Theater, among many others. I'm a jazz guy myself. Didn't go into music, but most of my friends did. I was the only non-music major in my university jazz ensemble (trumpet, so really like Don Ellis for his crazy time signatures and Maynard Ferguson for his power). I really like the theory-based analysis you give. Keep it up! Band Maid is one you haven't done yet that has a good reaction following. Probably my favorite newish rock band. Domination (live) is a great one. Unleash the Archers is also awesome power metal. Otherwise, keep up your normal selection. You are batting a strong average on bands I like.
great ear on the whole step down, its drop A on a six string. The engineering on this track is genius, everything gets it own space. It is the same drummer as the Pisces video, to answer your question. It is also very common for harsh vocalists to double or even sometimes triple layer their tracks, for body and punch, and they typically use those same tracks for live performances as part of the backing tracks/effects. Keep the analysis coming, man, great to hear the insight!
iirc, this is studio audio over a concert montage. When you get the chance, watch the Live in Melbourne version. It is more organic
Ignore the trolls. Say what u want and what u hear. That’s why we’re here. If some ppl r upset or don’t like it, they can go pound sand. Her voice is amazing and she doesn’t need plugins or effects to do what she does but they def layer her voice on studio tracks. Live she uses a little delay but that’s about it....but I’d highly recommend checking out more live stuff. Great reaction, stay genuine and bring on more Jinjer
There is a lot of Post preduction tricks done in the editing. But are wonderfully done in this song. However Tatianas ablity to hold the note and carry it through her changes even thou it may be many octives lower is truly the best part. The band is a whole different story. Amazing!
there are ofc effects and doubling. if its an issue watch "Judgement and punishment - one take vocals" if effects are getting in the way of nailing down her abilities.
I love your channel because you actually break it down but you also embrace music outside of your normal. Great Job!
You're right about harmonizing with layering extra vocal tracks in post. Even tool does that. Enya couldn't perform live.
Very nice reaction, my man. You should definitely try making a reaction to- Who is gonna be the one. Looking forward to it
More JINJER please!!!!!!!!
There is postproduction in this video, you can hear it in the "merciful" part, there are two voices, one growling and other singing at the same time, probably from both sessions, there is also a part were the crowd growls, probably is from one of the shows, but its amplified and cleaned.
There are a couple of pure live sessions, for example the full show on melbourne.
Discovered Jinjer thanks to your reactions, I'm loving this band now, thank you!
I appreciate your ability to really listen to music, not just hear it long enough to see if you approve.
My favorite Jinjer song as a huge fan. This slow bridge is my favorite musical moment with infamous Rosetta Stoned bridge. When i hear both, instant goosebumps. AND i heard them a lot lol. Nice reaction as always :)
Also they use effects and this is pretty post produced song. Of course the live performance will be different as vocals(i saw them live last year) but it does not take away from the experience. There is no cheating in their music. Their live is as good as their recordings, different but beautiful in their own sense. I don't know why people obsess over these things. They give us amazing music both as album records and live. Why bother ourselves with these superficial things?
great reaction! You are at my TOP3 reactionists list!
Because you mentioned Metalcore. In an Interview, Tatjana said they don't play Metal, but in general "Extreme Music", because they have both extreme heavy and extreme slow parts. Keep up your videos, love them
Don't worry so much about them using layering to their vocals. The "organic" sound the comments were referring to is that she can produce the growl without augmenting her voice. The vocal layering with the growls throughout the song is VERY common in metal. Most of the time it's for emphasis on words and you get a layering of the high pitched scream with a lower one. They reproduce it live by adding the one the vocalist isn't doing live to a backing track that's played with the song. Also that is the same drummer from pices!! He's been around for a quite a bit at this point so he's in most of their music videos. Love your reactions! Keep up up great work!
This is the song as it appears on the album (produced) with Live footage in the video. They use reverb and echo at times to make the sound fuller.
My Jinjer suggestion is a song called Ape! Either the one shot live or the official music video. Another suggestion is a song "No Hoard of Value" official lyric video! In my opinion thes are Jinjer's most underrated songs that have a great reaction potential!
Or "Who's gonna be the one" official live by Jinjer! Amazing song, but a little more commonly reacted too!
@The Bullfrog those 2 are among my favorite tracks, seconded! But to be honest I love all their songs lol. (Except Waltz, sorry. Still an... ok track though).
@@Qyngali I love all there songs as well! My one exception is Bad Water! Yes it has a sick bass line, but the rest of the track falls short of my Jinjer standard.
@@thebullfrog5207 Would be boring if everybody liked the exact same things/songs/movies etc. :) I actually LIKE bad water haha, but more power to you for not.
Ape is one of my all time faves! Also When Two Empires Collide.
welcome to the world of jinjer. enjoy the ride.
Ive seen her live 4 times and heard this song alot..its amazing
Love them! Tatiana is amazing! And they’re awesome live.
You can say what this song is. Rap Metal.
I love it.
Home back is a masterpiece and the next song you should listen to by Jinjer
Oh hell yeah, this song's been stuck in my head for 3 or 4 months now. Looking forward to this reaction!
Mahalo mate....another great reaction, keep em coming 😎🤘
Isn't this genre 'djent'? I really dig this chaotic sound. The vocals are insane too.
I count Jinjer as djent
Love your reactions my friend! You nailed so many things/thoughts that frankly others just will not! Time for an actual live performance! There are many.... "Perennial-Live at Wacken" is a good showcase of the band....and of course Tatiana's one take vocal performance on "Judgement and Punishment(has a little reggae mixed with Metal)" BTW I love that you don't focus on lyrics, to me that's what it should be. Focus on the whole package then maybe later on if wanted look at lyrics.
Really good video yet again! You definetly have to check out the one take vocal performance of "Judgement (&Punishment)" and also the live performance of "Perennial" at Wacken. See you in the next one :)
As a composer you'd probably enjoy the hell out of Wintersun! Try "Sons of Winter and Stars" and "Time", the Sonic Pump Studio session! 🤘🏻
Great review / reaction! The overdub you hear is a percussive-style tapping on the bass to add texture. If we weren't all blown away by Tatiana's vocals we'd be mesmerized by the composition and arrangement of the music (not to mention the actual playing). This band is a powerhouse.
So in the slow section when you heard that second guitar, you're absolutely right. That's a backing track, also played by Roman. Live, IIRC, sometimes they include that backing track, other times they omit it and just let the chords ring. I think for the album version they had it to sort of keep the momentum of the song moving. Live, Tatiana gets the crowd clapping to keep the momentum up.
See, Jinjer used to be a 5-piece. A lot of their older songs, therefore have two guitar parts, and they use the backing tracks to cover those parts. Moving forward, I think they probably just got used to that compositional style and the space-filling it's possible to do, so they still use it sometimes. I think I remember hearing them talk about considering adding a fifth member again to cover those extra parts live, but they said that they're just really comfortable with each other and happy with the dynamic they have, so they'd rather use a computer to fill in the extra parts here and there.
Yeah, I think people get a little touchy when it comes to Tatiana's vocal talent because a lot of reactors will sometimes try to discount her talent so quickly. The colloquial they will search for ways that she processes her voice and when they find things that any or all of the greatest male singers will also do, then they quickly point the finger. I don't think that's what you are doing at all. Great reaction! I'll say it, Tatiana's one of the greatest vocalists out there bar none.
I like your perspective on the video picking up on things others miss . Keep up the great work.
For sure pls check out a live performance next! Perennial (live at Wacken), Who Is Gonna Be The One (live) and Judgement (& Punishment) one-take vocal performance are all excellent
You keep doing you, we love your breakdowns and love your reactions!
Congratulations to the nice reactions you offer to us. I really enjoy this like all others I watched. Please keep on. It’s so interesting to listen to your analysis of the songs.
To Jinjer: I totally agree and there are without a doubt layers/effects at different passages of the song. And I like it because it’s the Studio Audio Version of the Song. I’m not sure but I think they don’t layer „too“ much in their live performances- which are incredible. To get an impression of their stage performances you should pick „perennial“ live at Wacken. Also „Who is gonna be the one“ live is a very good example.
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Perennial live at Wacken is a must! Seeing/ hearing their talent live is next level.
nice! i finally found a channel with a good mix of pauses/explanations and enjoying the music. most people pause too much. thanks for your videos :)
I keep rewatching the part at 12:35 because it perfectly shows a first time listening to Jinjer. I can see your head move upwards, im guessing you were assuming where the song was going at that time, then they just deliver it perfectly where all anyone listening can do it just throw their hands knowing they just nailed it.
People sometimes don't understand effects. It can be something as simple as layering vocals, which Jinjer does do. There's also some echoing and reverb. Of course it's got effects guys. Every artist that produced and mixed has effects on their vocals. Her scream is organic, but to make recordings sound fuller they mix several recordings together.
It's great to see someone who enjoys her "normal" singing voice. Like you, I just really love her tone, no matter what or how she is singing.
I love listening to your deep knowledge of music and your openness to experience and breakdown all kinds of different genres. I had the same reaction to my first Jinjer experience as well. Hell of a voice! You have the perfect personality for these reaction videos. Keep on entertaining!
Excellent reaction! Jinjer don't like to be constrained by genre. They've said if they had to label themselves, it would probably be "Extreme Progressive."
You are correct in the phrasing style she uses many styles another of her influences is Gwen S. from No Doubt which you will see a few influences in a few other songs as well..
Great breakdown and analysis! I'm glad you picked the official video for this song. It's one of their few where the studio version slightly outdoes the live version, but only because of all of the little details that would be near impossible to do live, but that being said you should check out their live in Melbourne version of Teacher Teacher on your own. Their ability live makes it well worth the time. I'm sure many have suggested "Perennial live at Wacken" and agree that should be the next, but at some point check out "Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev". It is a personal favorite live recording of one of my favorite Jinjer songs.