The reason NO ONE buys GARDEN TRACTORS anymore!!!
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Brett and I discuss the reasons that no one is buying garden tractors anymore! #gardentractor #society #change
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Probably the biggest factor is that a lot of people don't garden anymore...
A lot of people don’t do anything themselves anymore
@@BuildALotAcres Amen to that. I grew up at a time where if you didn't plant a garden and can your fruits you didn't eat that winter. Plus hunting and fishing to put that on the table. We lived in a poor county and jobs were low pay, I remember My Dad being gone weeks at a time to work a bit better paying job.If something really bad does happen, people will starve . Has they will not know what to do. They kill plants that would have fed them in their yards. Also the food we get from the store are so full of very bad things, we are all sick. I subscribed, liked and shared
@@tectalabyss Thank you very much 🙏 We appreciate the support. I agree with your points. I think unfortunately it will take a hard lesson like you described to wake people up. I try to be as self sufficient as possible.
I was pricing tractors a while back, a fully loaded Deere X700 series was more expensive than a Deere 1 Series. Also the compact utility tractor can run more attachments, for me it's a no-brainer.
Yup. And most garden tractors just wernt suitable for doing loader work for example. Of course you do see loaders on them. Often homemade loaders, but the lift capacity was what, only 2-300 lbs if that? That’s all the tractors axles could handle. So start making them bigger and you can increase that lift capacity by double or even more. Plus having a rear PTO on the machines for homesteads was game changing.
I just acquired a 1025R and it’s significant bigger than my Deere 425. And the 425 was no lightweight, and did have rear PTO, 3pt and front loader options, but the capacity just wasn’t there for doing bigger jobs.
Makes sense
My ariens gt18 rear axle is rated for almost 2,000 pounds and they have front end loaders for them and rear back hoe's for them and what usually limits lift capacity on a garden tractor is counter weight
That's why I'll choose my small 1991 garden tractor over any new crap it is capable everything a bigger tractor can do just on a different size scale
Got an x360 for the lawn. PS is nice. Backhoe for the heavy lifting
People don't buy garden tractors anymore, because they don't make them any more. I sold all the 3000 series Cub Cadet Garden tractors I could get my hands on. They dropped the line. I was furious at the Cub Cadet rep. If you want a five foot deck and a snow blower, tiller, too bad. Get two machines.
Sad but true 😔
I picked up a cub cadet 1250 fixed what was broken, adjusted everything to factory specs, changed the belt blades and fluids greased it and it cuts 2 acres a week trouble free. I've got less than $750 in to it.
Very cool 👍
I have 2 tractors, a Gilson GT18HE and an Ingersoll 448, admittedly it's tough to keep just those 2 going all the time, and it would be easier to just buy a new mower. I like tinkering with these old behemoths, and appreciate the versatility that true garden tractors afford, like 3 point attachments, sleeve hitches, plows, blowers, real pulling power, etc. Most of that could not be offered by a single modern lawn mower.
I agree 👍
For rural property owners you really need two machines, a zero turn for mowing and a compact tractor with FEL for everything else.
You don't need a zero turn for Christ sake. Just another 10k toy, a 25 HP tractor would be enough if you have a lot of acreage, just get a larger mower
@@benjaminwright180710k? Dude I have a Scag Turf Tiger and I paid 5 for it
In 2024 that’s a pretty common combo for sure 👍
@@benjaminwright1807 this was my thinking when I bought my tractor, I did not want another engine to maintain so figured I would just get a mower for the tractor. I could not stand it and bought a zero turn after one season. Having to take the loader and whatever other implements off, then installing the mower deck, then having to do it all over again in reverse when I was done was a lot of work to do each time I wanted to mow the grass, I tried mowing with the loader on but that was a thoroughly unpleasant experience. Plus with the amount of engine hanging over the front of the deck it's really hard to get into those tight places and I found myself having to do a lot of trimming afterwards. You really can't beat a zero turn for mowing. That being said some of the newer tractors with drive over decks and quick attach loaders and what not would make it much easier but old girls like mine really don't make very efficient lawn mowers.
If you have a lot of trees then a zero turn if on trees mow rake and bale it! I can not believe the amount of people that have two to four acre yards😵😵😵
Thanks for this video. I recently picked up a 1968 CASE 155 and got it running again. I just love that little machine.
In the early 70,s I worked for a man who owned Boydville.A home in town on 13 ac.He had a new Case hydrostat and a Farmall cub.You already know which one I used.The farmall cub.
My dad owns a 1952 Famrall cub.
You definitely did an outstanding job on the editing! When we filmed this, I knew it had the potential to be good, but this is truly outstanding, can’t wait to make more!
Thank you son 🥰
Nice video. We have gone through a lot of garden tractors on our farms over the years. Most did not hold up but for a few years and then we spent more time repairing them than using them. I bought a John Deere X350 last year and hope it holds up better than the others. I bought a new John Deere 1023E with loader over 10 years ago and I am happy how well it works. That is why I gave the John Deere garden tractor a try.
For me when my dad purchased a Joh Deere 140 it was the best tractor I had ever operated. The ease to change it from a deck to a snowblower…. It had 3 point hitch so we had acc. For the back as well. My grandpa lived on a farm on a big hill 1/2 mile down the road and when he couldn’t get down the driveway with a tractor with a blade on the back plowing snow I drove up it with the 140. My son has two 140’s to this day and still uses them. Probably one of the best garden tractors ever made. They made some really great tractors in the 1960-1970 years…. Not to be confused with lawn tractors….
Definitely a great tractor. Cool story Steve. Thanks for sharing 🙏
My uncle had a fairly big property and he bought a Cub Cadet with the hydrostatic drive brand new. If I remember right I think it was the late 1960's. It lasted the rest of his life, so about 40 years.
Wow imagine being able to buy something today that would last that long
I bet he enjoyed the heck out of that machine.
The IH Cub Cadet built them tough back then. Now, I pass on them. Back in the early eighties, I bought a 20 year old 70 model cadet with a broken rod. I overhauled it, and used it until 96 when I moved. I paid $25 for it and sold it for $400.
This Is Truly OUTSTANDING Informative Video and Father and Son Team Work 👌😇👍 Cheers 🍻🍻
Thank you sir 🙏
We have a "Herd" of 60s and 70s Wheelhorses. Very easy to build maintain and repair. Excellent machines. Very rugged. We've done 5 full frame off restorations. We use them to maintain our acreage.
Very cool 😎 I have a Wheelhorse history video coming out this coming Tuesday 👍
You hit the point right on the bullseye. Garden tractors are definitely not what the once were or non-existent. I remember my grandfather had an 8 hp simplicity tractor that he used to mow, rototill the garden, and snow removal with a front blade in the winter with. Now a days, you have to have 20 plus h.p. machines just to be able to do all of this and more, compared to the 1940s to the 1980s units that used to be out, and ou last a lot of the current units of the modern day. It's a real shame everything doesn't last like it used too.
I agree. There's no money in building a lifetime machine. Everything is about the almighty buck 😠
Great video! I have a 40+ year old Snapper 1855 for nostalgia purposes but a sub compact tractor with FEL and other attachments for practical purposes.
Thank you 🙏
Love the channel guys keep up the good work I love cutting wood and old iron have a 60s round fender John Deere a 48 cub and a newer kubota b series also a fan of the Bauer tool line !
Very cool. Lots of similarities 👍
David Bradley!! Sears and roebuck..Kind of mind blowing at all the attachments that were available from Sears and roebuck to cater to the small homesteaders..Was visiting some family in Virginia and passed by a homestead,,,saw a Suban Garden Tractor working a small hay baler,, also was a Roper garden tractor with a sickle bar that actually had cut the hay and was mounting a hay rake..Im the outgoing type and stopped the chat about the little machines. That's when I discovered those hey attachments had actually been made by David Bradley and the older gentlemen was the second generation to be using those attachments the younger one being the third generation. They told me those attachments had been doing 5 acres of hay every year some years two cuttings every since they were brand new..
Amazing for sure! Very cool 👍
Great video! I was just contemplating this the other day. I think with the popularity of the ATVs and zero turn mowers these were phased out. Also our suburban lot sizes have shrunk substantially reducing to need for such heavy equipment
Yeah, all good points 👍
I have a 4 wheel Simplicity tractor with a lawnmower and snowblower very handy.
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One reason why is people can't afford new ones. The older ones (I have my dad's old Suburban SS12) are either rusted junk heaps or bought up by collectors to sit in a shed, only to be sold for a lot of cash if they ever are. Cost is an entry barrier, as is land. More people don't have access to land to grow a garden or keep/maintain their equipment. Def more true the closer to suburban areas you get.
"I've had well over a dozen garden tractors..." I have over a dozen right now LOL.
I'm a Sears guy with also an AC HB212, Massey GT12 hydro, Massy MF1855, Craftsman FF24 to name a few, but absolutely no green/yellow!
I think it a combo of things, good tractors aren't made anymore, people use zero turns for mowing so no need for another tractor, people don't work the ground like they used to and frankly our country can't put their social media down enough to do anything else. Thankfully I'm a gen Xer who grew up around these tractors and enjoy working on them.
Very good points 👍 Sounds like a great lineup of machines
I have a Husqy TS248XD. It has the bigger transmission with limited slip diff. It was advertised as ground engagement capable. I got it because I had moved to an acre lot and needed something a little more capable. Plus I had plans on making a small garden. The John Deere equivalent was almost twice the price, but has the same transmission and Kawasaki 23 hp engine. I never did till a garden, but it got a lot of use doing maintenance on the property. I towed a dump trailer behind it to pick up branches and other yard debris. I loaded the trailer with wall blocks and pavers and mulch, you name it. I have an ATV winch I am going to mount on it as soon as I figure out how. A small mom and pop lawn and tractor store in NC is where I got it from. I saw their listing online and went to check it out. They still had it in the box and didn't think they would even sell it. Nobody was in the market for a garden tractor, even out here in the country. The shop owner asked me to come back the next day so they could assemble it. It's been a great little tractor for the four years I've had it.
Very cool 😎 I love those small mom and pop shops. Top notch customer service and supporting local businesses is always good 👍
I have sale slip, $7,200 back in 1992 for the Simplicity sovereign that was passed down to me. I loved it since I had picked up a 1975 allis 712s years earlier. Both have the same attachments and almost the same identical tractor. Hard to believe that nothing really changed between the 70s up to 2000 ish on those. That was still a serious price tag back in 1992 when you look at inflation vs what prices were back then.
I agree 💯 A lot of people comment prices are too 💰💰nowadays. Thing is….quality garden tractors were always expensive. Often similar in price to a vehicle back when they were made 👍
The stuff being built today is what I call throw away! That's like putting a backhoe attachment on a farm tractor it works on a utility tractor but on a subcompack and compact it's a JOKE! I've seen cases where the little tractors were broke in half!!! It's all about marketing and the customer not knowledgeable enough! Sales people are all about $$$$!!!!
I agree. Sad but true 👍
My family had (and still has) the original John Deere 110 garden tractors (1964 and 1966). They were great for mowing and moving snow (blade and blower). Not to mention pulling a trailer for countless tasks. Despite the small 8hp Kohler engine, that little beast just kept plugging along (albeit slowly in heavy grass) -- for years and years (and still does, but needs some valve work). I won't say much about the abuse two brothers gave those tractors in full-throttle races and attempted donuts in the winter (with full chains and weights too). 😄
Yes sir. They sure were built to last. Great memories I bet 👍
i guess it depends upon what you’re doing and what your yard looks like. zero turns have their place but they’re not for everyone and sometimes, a sub compact is too big. but as a rule, you can buy a diesel sub compact with a 3-point hitch for about the same price as a garden tractor. i like my cub cadet xt3 and john deere x530 for mowing, tilling between garden rows and bagging leaves i have too much ledge and trees to get the lawn done with a zero turn or scut.
Amen to that. I grew up at a time where if you didn't plant a garden and can your fruits you didn't eat that winter. Plus hunting and fishing to put that on the table. We lived in a poor county and jobs were low pay, I remember My Dad being gone weeks at a time to work a bit better paying job.If something really bad does happen, people will starve . Has they will not know what to do. They kill plants that would have fed them in their yards. Also the food we get from the store are so full of very bad things, we are all sick. I subscribed, liked and shared
Thank you very much 🙏
My dad had an old sears suburban when i was a kid. That thing was made to work. He sold it before we moved south.
I ended up buying a late 80's ford 1210 and i do all the yard work (besides mowing) with the ford.
My last video before this was on the old Sears line 👍
@@BuildALotAcres oh sweet! I'll go watch it!
Nice looking riggs Guy's ! Terrif comes to mind at 5:25 .
The first Japanese tractor I remember was a Yanmar back in the early 1980's ...... Lime green 4 wheel drive with a front loader and rear mounted box blade .. What more could a 12 year old boy want ? LOL
Tariff*... and yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
Yes, that’s the word I was looking for. Thank you 👍 It’s funny how the tractors we see as young men stick with us in our minds all these years later
I got a PowerMax9020 with a FEL and dozer, WH 414-8 and WH GT-14....all great toys to play with and restore. I cut grass with 414-8. Picked up a Kubota B7400 last year though to do real grunt work; move mulch around and grade. You should make some restoration videos..
Maybe some day 👍
I have a 1972 Mtd 960. Nothing today is built like the ones back then. Everything is made to be thrown away after 5 years.
I agree 💯 👍
Good one. 👍🏻👋
🙏 Thank you sir
Unfortunately another thing that happened is garden tractors also became much more expensive in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. They priced themselves out of the market. I remember the Ingersoll 4020PS being a dream garden tractor for myself, in the late 90s. I priced one at a local dealer and if I remember correctly, it had a $12,000 price tag on it, and that price was just for the tractor itself. A 60” deck was another $1,000, and you didn’t get a 3 point hitch standard. That was extra. If you wanted to till a garden you needed to buy the 3 point hitch, the hydraulic pto valve, and the tiller. I’m sure by the time you were done optioning out all those extras, you probably would have been looking at something closer to $15,000. The deal breaker is you could have bought a compact diesel tractor with 4wd for about the same price, and it would have had a lot more features standard, would be built heavier, and would probably out work any almost any other garden tractor available then.
Now days, you are better off buying a sub compact tractor, rather than a garden tractor, if you can still find one being offered, for the same reasons.
Great point. I think quality built gt’s have always been expensive for the time period they were in. Maybe someday I’ll try and dig up sone price literature to do a cost comparison video
very informational. Its a shame you done see garden tractors much anymore but its cool to restore and use them.
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Great job I just bought 5 acres and was curious what happened to garden tractors.
Now you know 😁
I have vintage cub cadets I love them all
I have a Cub Cadet history video in the queue 👍
It's pretty easy to slap together a motor and a belt driven powertrain but a diesel engine and integral transmission and drive axles in cast iron is a bit harder and requires more thought and design. Live PTO is another step up. A B/S or Kohler doesn't cut it.
I have always ran Gravely riders, they have been really reliable for me. They came with 50" and 60" decks, plows, snow blowers, tillers, and would do pretty much whatever you needed. Good 50" mower decks are getting a bit harder to find for them and the old tractors don't mow and turn as quickly as the new zero turns, but the old stuff still cuts well.
Very true. I plan on doing a Gravely video one of these days 👍
Even the 1968 Case Garden tractors were really the purchased Colt company designs. I think the Japanese tractors being imported was simply the world market awakening. Americans discovered that someone else was doing tractors better for a particular purpose and choosing that - as opposed to an “invasion”.
Lol. You’re probably right. 👍
I own my last and forever garden tractor I mow my lawn with. I spent a winter doing a frame up restoration, after buying a farmers lawn ornament from an old chicken farm. I have a nearly mint 1972 Case that I re-powered with a briggs vanguard 20hp engine, due to the fact, trying to find and the expenses of the original Onan 16hp parts wasn't worth the effort or cost of rebuilding it unfortunately. But everything else is basically OEM and or has been replaced or rebuilt, and I went a step further to retain the original PTO clutch assembly by making my own flywheel crank snout adapter. Rather than simply using the common replacement electric PTO clutch that are sold with most of the re-power kits. The most challenging part for me was making a perfectly straight and centered hydraulic pump bracket off the other end of the engine. Due to space constraints and its placement, it was definitely the hardest part of the entire process. Otherwise I rebuilt its original 48" deck and revised it baffle wise and blade tip speed wise by changing the pulley ratios so it now cuts so much better than the factory setup. Best tractor I've ever worked on, and I've been a small engine mechanic for the better part of my life with the schooling and business to back it up. Now I no longer turn wrenches for a living, but as a hobby lol. I decided to upgrade my career about 18 years back and stopped getting my hands dirty at work. After owning nothing but Bobcat commercial mowers for my home use, it was time to sit down and relax for a change. Great Company and the amazing amounts of aftermarket and OEM parts still available for such old equipment is mind boggling.
Very cool 😎 Sounds like you got a great machine 👍 I watched a documentary on the history of the Bobcat with the two brothers and it was great. Ironically Case, originally Colt was also started by two brothers
I have 2 sears suburbans and several attachments for them. They do just about everything I need to do on 12 acres.
With respect Sir I believe the Phrase you were looking for is 'Import Tariff' :)
Yes it is. Thank you 🙏
One thing that’s missed in this video is prices of a garden tractor vs the small Asian diesel compact tractors. Also look at the prices of the cheaper mass produced new mowers. They’ve all doubled in the last 5-6 years. And the quality sure didn’t go up, nor did the longevity. But the greed sure went up from MTD. Honestly for what they cost now, I’d expect a real metal painted hood, and a real diesel engine instead of a cheap mass produced gas engine from B&S, that blows up in a couple years.
Yeah, everything has doubled in the last 4 years. Another topic altogether 😉
Our church just replaced a John Deere 425 with a John Deere 738 to the tune of $20,000. We didn’t need that caliber of machine for mowing. However we have to clear snow from the alley behind the building and I have to wind row it so it gets heavier and heavier. It takes every horse and a well built chassis. To complicate the situation we can’t have anything larger because it won’t fit in our storage area. Now I’m not brand loyal and have no allegiance to John Deere but they are THE ONLY company that makes something that size and quality. What do ya do?
Yeah. With Simplicity out of the picture there's very limited choices for what I'd consider a garden tractor. If you step up to a sub compact there are several brands that are around the size of a 738 JD. The BX Kubota's, CS Kioti's, Mahindra emax, etc.
I use and maintain a general use push mower Briggs & Stration...i get about 15 years out of each one...since 1988 I'm on number 3 mower....less than $600. to $700. for all three.
More garden tractor videos, please!
Yes sir. Every Tuesday at 3pm EST we are doing a Tractor Talk video on garden tractors 👍
I still plow snows with my 1963 953 wheel horse with the factory hydraulic lift 54" dozer blade. Now days you have tractors twice the size with 54 inch blades.
They definitely don’t build them like they used to
I miss my ole, 20hp Sunstar. It was an '86 with the Magnum. Tons of power.
They are true brutes 💪🏻 🚜
I have a 90’s Sunstar I had plans to make a FEL for using the local Tech High School adult night class. The school dropped the use @ night so now I found my self buying a Kubota 1850 with low hours resulting in having the Sunstar sitting going no where. The New England area is not made up of small farms like the midwest and such. Now I have this machine that only sells based on scrap prices. Go figure the US would loose it’s edge on making things last. Great channel. Keep the vids coming.
@@waynehigden Thank you very much 🙏 Sorry to hear about the school night program closing
Hi. You live near Massachusetts?
@@waynehigden Yes MA
as a kid we had a ? 1978 Massey 1200 still amazed a tractor that small had a mechanical rear PTO .. that was a tank
it was replaced by commercial walk behinds that cut the time in half ...
Great memories no doubt 👍
fathers are smart .... kid ...go drive this around the yard & cut the grass lol
as a kid its like OH Can I Please @@BuildALotAcres
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@@user-kg4eb7nl5b Lol. They knew all the tricks. Bet you can’t split that hunk of wood with this axe
Ingersoll Co (Eastman) is for sale now
I was under the impression they sold off all the remaining Ingersoll product in trailers a number of years ago
I still use my John Deere 325 , 30 year old garden tractor built very heavy runs like new.
Built to last 👍
Yeah and nothing's made out of steel no more
Great information, Case and Brett! A 12 page paper on garden tractors would be the only subject that would keep my interest while writing, not controversial bologna they make you write about in school. Moving on from my rant, I certainly think that the fall of authentic garden tractors is all about the money. Manufacturing corporations want you to buy their product every few years. Back in the day, companies were proud to offer a machine that would last a lifetime. I like to call the late 1940s to early 1980s time period "the garden tractor era." What do you guys think of my coined term? Cheers!
Great term Gan. I agree, money ruins a lot of things.
We have two cub cadets that still get used. Late 60s and late 70s
Very cool 👍
Here in Australia lawn tractors are not needed as the average house block now is less than 600m2
That stinks. I couldn’t live that congested
@@BuildALotAcres yeah I agree, the average price for one of these pidgeon boxes is over $900000 now
@@horsehead8306 😯
I have a Kubota L1500 but it’s to broken and run down to be used.
In my opinion a solid garden tractor just is outshined by my old honda 250. If i need to move firewood im grabbing the quad because it starts easy and is faster. Even plowing NY lake effect snow my honda does it in 2wd. Garden tractors in my area are more expensive slower and usually dont have the attachments you need when you need it. I love my 4 sears suburbans and my case 448 but i need something that does the job quickly and when i need to do it. Without tinkering and hassle. There are just too many options now that are better that cost the same if not less than a sturdy old gt. A garden tractor will do the work but if you dont have the time or extra cash they wont cut it.
Good point. I’ve never owned a 4 wheeler or a 3 wheeler. I really want to get a golf cart to traverse my property easier and my wife and kids want a 4 wheeler. I tried talking them into a side by side, but they aren’t having it 🤣
You can still buy commercial grade equipment that's built to last. It's weird that people talk about yesteryear like it doesn't exist anymore. My bobcat is built like a tank and way better than anything from the 60s. Anything old that last was expensive too. The old days just didn't have the cheap serviceable stuff. They only had expensive stuff.
Not many options for commercial grade GARDEN TRACTORS. Which is what the video was about 👍
Before I went full on tractor shopping at the local dealers I always liked looking at what each brand had for models on their website. After seeing the cost of what it would be to buy John Deere's top X700 model the X758 I could see why people don't buy them. At $17,000 the X758 is incredibly over priced and absolutely pointless. John Deere doesn't even consider it a garden tractor it's just an over priced lawn mower. I think a lot of the times people will go with a robust zero-turn mower for mowing grass at a third of the price and skip something like the X758 completely. The X758 is for someone who wants to keep up with the Jones's and nothing more.
You can get a far more capable sub-compact tractor for less money than the X758 and it will always come stock with a loader because that's the only way dealers sell them now. My Massey Ferguson was priced a little over $15,000 new with a factory installed loader. But we paid more for ours because we got it equipped with a box blade along with the loader. Then add on state sales tax and dealers fees.
Garden tractors aren't gone, they're just categorized differently now. What started off the category of yard maintenance machines with the cheapest and smallest ride-on lawn mower and ending the line with the robust and multi-capable garden tractor is now ended with an incredibly expensive ride-on mower. The robust and multi-capable "garden tractor" is now in its' own category being labeled as a sub-compact tractor which now starts as the smallest multi-capable machine and goes up to much bigger multi-capable tractors eventually hitting the utility and farm-tractor categories. :)
Good points 👍Interesting take
The main reason people don't buy these anymore is because they stopped making them. I don't know of a company who offers a product like the old sears garden tractor with all the attachments like the one my dad had when I was a kid. I think the smallest thing you can get now that compared to that is like the bx Kubota or the similar size tractor John Deere offers (I can't remember the model). I am looking for a small tractor, but cost is another issue. Tractors today are WAY over-priced.
I agree there are very limited options. Throwaway lawn mowers or expensive sub compacts. Not everyone needs or wants a 4wd diesel with loader. Sure they're nice,. but 🤑💰💸
@@BuildALotAcres I would use the garden tractor or the diesel with the loader every day. I have a 1954 Super A Farmall tractor I put a homemade 3-point hitch on that I use almost every day for something, but I don't need a tractor that big every day. I mainly use it for pulling trailers around the property. I don't plant a big enough garden to really justify using it for that, so a small garden tractor like those you have with a few attachments would work great for me, especially considering I use a walk behind tiller and a push plow to make my garden every year now. I am still considering buying a BX Kubota or similar size tractor with a loader and a few attachments
@@robbiebaker2412 Sounds like a plan 👍
I looked at new ingersolls. I love them but its just not worth it anymore. You can buy a sub compact with loader that will do a lot more for not much more. Maybe if we didnt have zero turns they would be more popular.
I understand. It’s a competitive market and money isn’t easy to come by these days. 👍
Its funny how the chicken tax was brought in for vehicles, yet they allowed the import tractors to sneak in slowly to the point that they took over and killed the domestic market
Yeah, it’s too bad. I try to support American companies when feasible
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The audio sucks.
If they would just have a PTO on the "Garden Tractors" that would be a plus. You could hook up a generator, air compressor, hydraulics. There's nothing in between a riding mower and farm tractor.
I disagree , a riding mower can’t do things a garden tractor can do, they can still have a 3 point hitch and move earth , plow, box blade , disc , tillers, sickle bar mower. Sears suburbans have 100 implements like air compressor and generator. John Deere’s garden tractors have hydraulic attachments. Riding mower just cuts grass, and only weigh 200-300 pounds garden tractors are like 800-1200. But definitely not compared to a regular tractor one of those blows it out of the water.
@@urbanitesgarage3299 That's my point. Just looking for something in between. The riding Mowers/Tractors are 26 HP.
Sorry you didn’t enjoy the video. I do the best I can with my limited equipment and budget. In a perfect world I’d have a sound room and a professional video person.
@@BuildALotAcres Just feedback on the audio. The video is fine. You're in a hollow room so you get echo.
Play it back.
I'm interested in that topic. Outside a Bobcat, there's nothing in between. I think there's a market for something there.
Cub cadet offered a generator for their line. Just remove the deck, install the generator on the sub frame, connect the belt and you were up and running under five minutes.
Were I live the super a is the one must people want
Popular where I’m at as well.
Not mentioned was the time saving when mowing a lawn with a zero turn mower. With a lawn tractor you are constantly changing from reverse to forward, turning around, changing forward speeds with a shift, etc. where you never have to do any of that with a zero turn mower. You can often cut your mowing time in half.
I agree a zero turn is definitely faster at mowing. The best garden tractor mowing setup I think is a foot controlled hydrostatic. My brothers Kubota G6200 is pretty fast and sweet. Late 80’s with a 3 cylinder diesel. Quite a few of the hydrostatic John Deere’s were foot controlled I believe too
Zero turn mowers are faster and easier to maneuver. I think that has a lot to do with it
I have to admit, for strictly mowing, I really do enjoy my Ariens Ikon. For all other chores, a true GT is hard to beat.
Only problem with residential zero turns is that they are not designed to tow very much weight and you can't add the attachments that the garden tractors can. Even commercial zero turns also have their limitations.
Allis Chalmers 720 was the king when it came to garden tractors
I did a video on the Powermax tractors, one on the heaviest garden tractor ever made, and one on The Biggest, Baddest garden tractors ever made! I agree, they are monsters 👹
@@BuildALotAcres you were correct.
Nobody offered what that series of tractors had as standard features. But they were expensive
@@RJ1999x I hope to get my 9020 up and running soon 👍
@@BuildALotAcres you will love it.
I have a 620 and 720 Allis Chalmers, one diesel, and one has a 30 HP efi twin cylinder
I think the word you were trying to say was tariff. They had tariffs on the small tractors in place to protect the garden tractor market.
Yes sir, that was the word 🙏
I have the 444 just like the ad
Very cool 👍
Hell,20 years ago, you could buy a tractor, trailer, disc, box blade and a busch hog for 4 thousand dollars. All brand new.
At this point I even miss going into Sears circa 2004 and checking out the offerings on the showroom floor 🥹
@@BuildALotAcres You don't remember the combo tractor sales? I live in Mississippi,they where everywhere.
@@grayrecluse7496 I don’t know that they offered them here in MA.
Where is the JD 420?
I’ve mentioned it in other videos 👍
The rise of Zero Turn, FEL subcompact tractors, and the Steiner and Ventrac subcompact tractors marked the demise of the Garden tractor. Much like the diesel locomotives replacing the steam locomotives.
All great points 👍
Old ones that did something. Cutting grass is not what they are good for
Great video. 1 small suggestion, Im hard of hearing. Throughout most of your video, all I hear are mumbles and echoes. Perhaps it's time to invest in some personal microphones?
I bought some Rode microphones awhile back, but they won’t connect to my phone. I do all my filming, editing, uploading etc, on my phone.
@@BuildALotAcres I get it, I do; it just makes it difficult to hear for some of us over-the-hill gang. Thanks for the reply.
Cost and effectiveness,neet little toys though.
Nothings cheap nowadays 🫨
With all the time and expense of putting in a garden, it’s hardly worth it any more. Nothing like coming home from your main job and going to the garden to your second job. Cheaper by far to buy what you need at the farm market.
I don’t know how the long term cost would pan out. Definitely easier going to a market. We did a share last year, and it was pretty costly to be honest. At least imo. Once your beds are established, seeds are pretty cheap. I think a lot of people just enjoy the serenity and peace a garden offers. Plus you can order hard to find varieties.
big buisness sucks I looked for a earley seventies Bolens instead of buying junk.
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The best garden tractor was a super A farmall
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Cub
I couldn't even begin to tell you all the simplicity and allis chalmers built tractors I own in total but I know I have 30 all together including the parts tractors but for ones that I'm gonna keep together. I got a 1962 simplicity 725 I got 2 1963 allis chalmers b10s 2 b110 a 1967 and 1968, 2 1970s b212s both variable speed modes a 1972 allis chalmers 312d with the shuttle drive transmission a 1972 HomeliteT12 hydro a 1973 HomeliteT16 hydro a 1975 allis chalmers 716H a 1976 allis chalmers 712H a 1978 allis chalmers 716H maby another 1978 allis chalmers 716H I might not part it out and a 1990s agco allis 918H. I do all lots of parts tractors most were missing parts or were in sad shape. I save um when I can I know I've saved at least half from being scrapped
Edit I own lots of parts tractors
Very cool. I have a video coming out that I filmed at my cousins. He has had lots and lots of machines, Simplicity/Allis being his favorite brand 👍
@@BuildALotAcres mine to but when I get a place that I can buy more I will be able to save more of any brand
I don’t understand, there are a lot of garden tractors available or basically lawnmowers with rear PTO and essentially the small Kabota and Mahindra and John Deere compact tractors are essentially a glorified garden tractor and John Deere has been making them for decades and always had them? Maybe I’m missing something in your description but a lot of people are buying them, I moved out to the country about 20 years ago and they’re everywhere. Maybe I’m missing what you mean by garden tractor? I’ve got a zero turn now but I’ve also got a John Deere L1 30 that I’ve had for 20 years, the hour meter broke at about 400 hours and that was a decade ago. I’m not trying to argue, but what do you mean by garden tractor that nobody buys anymore because almost every major manufacturer has small lawnmowers and options with rear PTOs and pretty small compact tractors?
Lawn tractors are not the same as garden tractors, and garden tractors are not the same as sub compacts. The junk you see sold at the big box stores aren’t garden tractors. To the average person they may all seem the same, but they are not
I buy everyone i can find
The last decade or so they've gotten really good at falling apart or being a repair money pit .. so I don't bother . Planned obsolescence is So good on newer ones they're obsolete before you can even take out your wallet .. if you need a lawn tractor. Buy an old one
Spend some money on lapel mics. Awful sound without them.
Now days they want front loader must garden tracters did not have one
Most brands offered an add-on Front End Loader. Loader makers like Ark or Johnson contracted with every major garden tractor maker.
i think it was the chicken tax
It was definitely sumtin 🤠
If you have a small property, say one acre, it is big enough to need mechanical assistance. Moving firewood, moving generators, pumps, saws, cleaning machines, mowers, but one acre is not big enough to justify buying a full size tractor, it doesn't make economic sense. But a small tractor would be ideal. Horses for courses.
I agree. Doing all outdoor chores on one acre with hand tools would be a nightmare. Maybe if the person didn’t work full time or there were many hands to help out. For me machines are a necessity
“Godden tractas” 😂
Yessah
Cause very frw people garden anymore!
There to expensive and if you do need a tractor its cheaper picking up real tractor second hand and having the extra weight power and so on
People today are more proud of paying to do something than actually doing it
A sad truth 😥
Will never hire a lawn service. They do a terrible job. Not worth the money.
I agree. I see them all over the place, scalping lawns, clippings everywhere, always in a rush
Don't buy anything but garden tractors. JD 430 & 455 being used daily
Very cool 👍
We need JD900HC tractors...ain't gonna happen!
I wish high ground clearance 2wd gardening specialists were offered new today with modest pricetags.
Garden tractors fell out of popularity, because the market disappeared. People who do have a use for them, but find favor in dedicated equipment.
Regardless of their flexibility, the majority of hours on most GTs was mowing. ZTRs cut that time in half... and using a bigger/slower machine to remove snow, when you can buy a self-propelled snow blower for less than the difference in price, just doesn't make sense.
There could be a revival of the garden tractor industry... but nobody wants to build the machine it will take to establish it. Even if they did... getting people to stop thinking John Deere green or a box store mower is not the answer, requires a measure of common sense this modern generation doesn't possess.
For those who do perform their own outdoor chores, I agree a zero turn and walk behind bower are the most common choices.
@BuildALotAcres - prior to the 1980s, agriculture, automobile, and industrial exports were the bread and butter of our economy. When the financial crisis of 2008/2009 hit, it revealed our true colors. America's most successful industry and export, is entertainment. It's not from a lack of need... it's from a lack of people to demand it.
Their too small to do serious work and not break and too big and heavy to mow
I disagree. 10x better than doing things by hand, and commercial zero turns that most people hire out to are just as heavy as many old gt’s
That “high school capstone project” would’ve been a C- in most 6th grade classrooms 30 years ago. 😂 If a student didn’t have immaculate handwriting, then he/she was relegated to hours of tedious stenciling.
How well would you write after having a stroke?
Because they coast more than real tractors now.
Why buy one when you can have something like a 8N?
Depends on the person i think. Lots of people don't want real tractors. They just want to mow grass with minimal tinkering.
@@BuildALotAcres This might be true. But old tractors like a Ford 9N is not more complex than a IH Cub Cadet, other than the water cooling system and three more cylinders. Just bigger parts but they are cheap because so many were made.
Please do not get me wrong, I love these little yard tractors. But so many people have 50 of them filling up their yard, it has driven up the price.
The 2N,8N,9N ETC are cheaper and have more power and attachments. So this is what I use for now.
Maybe some day I will find a good price on a little yard tractor that has not been sitting next to 30 other ones just to rust away in a back yard.
Heck, I would not even mind so much, If guys would find a good dry place to cover them up. So they do not rust away why they are being horded. 😁😂
@@ironwoodworkman4917 one of my biggest pet peeves is people leaving stuff uncovered outdoors. I always park them under cover 👍
@@BuildALotAcres Good Man 👍😁
Let your son talk
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