These "long tail" ebikes are becoming more popular. I was at a demo day (different brand) and all the young couples wanted bikes that they could put one or two child seats on.
Great point. We created an entire episode of our ebike buying guide dedicated to cargo eBikes, too. ruclips.net/video/-BeOEs7r4wQ/видео.html -Producer Tim
Visible aluminum weldments ARE frame bracings! Bigger the aluminum welds, the better! Aircraft mechanic here. Torque sensing and over-the-top choices of accessories too!!! OH, YEAH!!!
Some competitors smooth out welds *and* deliver comparable frame strength PLUS enhanced aesthetics. Why not have both? Thanks for watching and sharing your enthusiasm. -Producer Tim
Thank you for watching and sharing encouraging words. We have published nearly 100 bike reviews here: eBikes.missgoelectric.com Coupon codes are available here: deals.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
We showed the synchronized Firefly lights in a review which will be published next week. Great stuff! Lumos.missgoelectric.com Coupon: GoElectric10 -Producer Tim
Hello!! I have the Lumos E-Bike helmet myself. I am impressed with how comfortable it is on my head. I have the liner for my bald head as well. Really great helmet. Love that it has mips and the visor keeps the bugs out of my face. Looking forward to many yrs of service from this awesome helmet.
That rear rear rack is even longer than competitors', impressive! I also like the possibility to have leg rest for passengers. Those large capacity batteries are amazing. However I found two points that could be improved: 1. That two legged kickstand is hanging too low and might get hit by curbstone. There are other kickstands that have a pivoting point higher and closer to bike frame and have legs that stay wide and are stronger because they don't close like a scissor as Lectric stand seems to do. I argue that Lectric's kickstand is located too near the rear wheel, making it hard to use it when rear rack has heavy loads, but this might be a matter of taste. I like my twin leg stand in the middle of bike. 2. In the frame under rear rack there seems to be enough space for a third extra battery, then why that free space was made unaccessible for a battery by frame tubing? Hardcore bike travellers or "hot rodders" want maximum battery capacity. I don't understand the purpose of that one frame tube that does "a turn" doesn't seem to have a structural purpose. But at this price Lectric seems unbeatable
We have reviewed torque sensing cargo bikes with comparably sized rear racks but the XPedition 2.0 battery capacity is exceptional at this price point. Thanks for watching! -Producer Tim deals.missgoelectric.com
Thanks for providing the critical feedback about the bike. Obviously this is a brand new bike, but this is the first review with suggestions for improvements. That's really helpful when comparing with other similarly priced bikes, like the Radwagon 5 or Flyer Via Pro.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. We try to provide the information which helps people find the best bike for their lifestyle. Some creators just want to sell bikes. Each of our 100 reviews concludes with opportunities for improvement as well as strengths. We have reviewed many competitors including some you have mentioned. You can see them all here: eBikes.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
I agree, it was great that she talked about criticisms. I am curious why so many reviews don't actually mention comparable products and how this bike compares to specific competitor models. It seems that manufacturers are limiting what reviewers can talk about in exchange for product access.
@joshwilson1316 it's because reviewers will get commission for affiliate sales so to sell more bikes it's best to make it look good. We want people to find the right bike for them and don't prioritize sales.
Thanks for watching Gary. We hope you'll enjoy about 100 more eMobility reviews on this channel plus hundreds of informative videos on the other Miss GoElectric channels. -Producer Tim
@@kona_moon6055Cost and safety are the primary factors which drive feature inclusion decisions. We didn't have specific insight related to this one. -Producer Tim
The torque sensor on the Xpedition 2 accelerates predictably. Smooth power application is one of its strengths. Thanks for watching this review and commenting. -Producer Tim
if you are going to have a rear rack that long, you might as well put in room for a 3rd battery. However, if ebike tech continues to improve at its current rate, we will probably see a 500 mile range ebike in the next 10 to 20 years. If ebikes took inspiration from bike packing bikes, and using that as a metric for storage, then they would probably reach these ranges already. However that would mean ebikes would be way more heavier, and be harder to control, almost like riding a motorcycle. However, depending on how you store the batteries, they would need a central intelligent smart charger that can recharge all the batteries at the same time. Recharge times would be in the smart car levels of needed requirement.
Cargo bikes must be large and heavy to haul heavy loads. Many form factors are required to electrify transportation. This is one. Guide.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
That is impossible to answer. Too many factors. Surface type, topography, temperature, wind, rider shape and weight, and tire pressure all affect range. -Producer Tim
Just to do a clarification if this is unlocked to a class three. It is not really a class three because class three is pedal assist only. If you have an operating throttle, regardless of what it stops at, it is not a classified e-bike. Remember class three is pedal assist only. There is no combination of class two and class three I know it seems kind of picky, but I am going to really start getting on this because these DTC e-bikes are going to ruin it for people who are just pedal assist and riding these like a bicycle.
It depends on the state writing the rules. California, for example, doesn't allow Class 3 ebikes to have throttles at all. In other states, throttles are allowed as long as they only work up to 20 miles per hour, while pedal-assisted electric power continues up to 28 miles per hour. --quote from Wired
@ thank you for your response and you actually are falling into exactly what they want you to fall into. You’re getting your information from a bike company. I am unaware of any state that does not call a class three with pedal assist only. If you Google class 3E bike. You will be flooded with bike companies interpretation of it. I would ask you to look at the state that you live in actual statutes. I’m not trying to say this to be picky. But most of these companies are skirting the law because they know law enforcement can do nothing about it. My problem is, when law-enforcement cannot do anything, lawmakers end up doing something. These regulations will fall down on everybody.
@MissGoElectricRideReviews i would challenge you to show me one state law where the definition of a class three e bike says it can have a throttle up to twenty miles per hour. I would even ask you define one statute that states, a class three can go to twenty eight miles an hour without using the terminology "pedal assist only". I'm not trying to be argumentative, but these are the exact type of things that are going to lead to regulations out the wazoo. Do you really want to take your legal advice from a bicycle maker?
@southernebiking I think you're right. Technically, class 3 is no throttle at any speed. Maybe 20mph throttle will be added to class 3 as the laws evolve because it seems harmless
@MissGoElectricRideReviews by the way, and again, I am not trying to be argumentative, only stating what the actual law is. The link you provided very plainly. States, that class three provides a motor that is activated only when peddling. I will reiterate, i am only stating this because youtube reviewers should be passing this information along correctly. These companies know what the actual law states, and they are relying on those such as yourself to just show how easy it is to unlock. Of course, law enforcement can do nothing about this. But that in and of itself is a problem, because that is when lawmakers come in. I would hate to see us end up with regulations like europe has. If youtube reviewers would do their job, maybe the only ones that would be regulated are the ones that are not now already classified. And believe me, I am not trying to pick on your channel as I have great respect for it. But I believe this continued skirting of the law is bad for the industry.
We may have posted more content this quarter to all three RUclips channels than ever before. We hope you'll have a look around! www.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
Sometimes the discount link is for a special deal. Right now the Black Friday deals are better than our discount for most manufacturers. When viewers use our link, Lectric can see that our video was helpful to buyers. At the very least, that can improve our odds of getting access to review more ebikes in the future. That helps us a lot. Thank you for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectricRideReviews I watched all ten XPedition 2 video reviews from the Lectric website and yours is the only one that says you're offering a discount, so you might want to reconsider your approach. Honestly, a Lectric referral code like yours has always been just that - a referral bonus for you and no special pricing (and almost every other review is explicit about that fact). At least I haven't seen any deviation from that model for the past four months I've been watching reviews of the Lectrics, nor have I seen anyone promise a discount by using their referral code. I was really surprised and excited to see you were promising a discount.
In this video Miss GoElectric pointed out that looks might not be a factor for utility-only riders. Looks WILL be important to lifestyle riders. They care about color options, paint quality, cable management, graphics, frame design, and weld blending. How do we know they do? We have spoken with thousands of riders on the GoElectric Group rides all over the USA. We've read thousands of comments on the nearly 100 eBike reviews we've produced to date. We have reviewed cargo bikes at very similar prices with significantly more attention paid to design. You can find many of our reviews at Deals.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim
This is good value but the "beautiful" ones have features this doesn't...most of them have mid drives which are more realistic in feel when riding vs more motorized bike feeling that hub motors have.Some other beautiful ones have better security and storage options. Etc. etc That said, this thing is very special...it addresses a lot of my issues with the 1.0 version and I see myself buying this soon...it's all the bike I need...till I can afford the beautiful ones at least, 😆
The title cannot contain every package and price. Characters are limited. Titles with the starting price is common practice. We show all pricing on screen in the first few minutes. We do not mislead. We inform. -Producer Tim
These "long tail" ebikes are becoming more popular. I was at a demo day (different brand) and all the young couples wanted bikes that they could put one or two child seats on.
Great point.
We created an entire episode of our ebike buying guide dedicated to cargo eBikes, too.
ruclips.net/video/-BeOEs7r4wQ/видео.html
-Producer Tim
Visible aluminum weldments ARE frame bracings!
Bigger the aluminum welds, the better! Aircraft mechanic here.
Torque sensing and over-the-top choices of accessories too!!!
OH, YEAH!!!
Some competitors smooth out welds *and* deliver comparable frame strength PLUS enhanced aesthetics. Why not have both?
Thanks for watching and sharing your enthusiasm. -Producer Tim
Very nice professional review I love the cinematic views with the blurring in the background. Awesome.
Thank you for watching and sharing encouraging words.
We have published nearly 100 bike reviews here:
eBikes.missgoelectric.com
Coupon codes are available here:
deals.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
I love the Lumos helmets. I have the Ultra, the Ultra Ebike helmet, and the add-on lights that sync with the helmet.
We showed the synchronized Firefly lights in a review which will be published next week. Great stuff!
Lumos.missgoelectric.com
Coupon: GoElectric10
-Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectricRideReviews I would love to see some actual research on if it is best to run the lights as flashing or not, etc.
Hello!! I have the Lumos E-Bike helmet myself. I am impressed with how comfortable it is on my head. I have the liner for my bald head as well. Really great helmet. Love that it has mips and the visor keeps the bugs out of my face. Looking forward to many yrs of service from this awesome helmet.
That rear rear rack is even longer than competitors', impressive! I also like the possibility to have leg rest for passengers. Those large capacity batteries are amazing.
However I found two points that could be improved:
1. That two legged kickstand is hanging too low and might get hit by curbstone. There are other kickstands that have a pivoting point higher and closer to bike frame and have legs that stay wide and are stronger because they don't close like a scissor as Lectric stand seems to do. I argue that Lectric's kickstand is located too near the rear wheel, making it hard to use it when rear rack has heavy loads, but this might be a matter of taste. I like my twin leg stand in the middle of bike.
2. In the frame under rear rack there seems to be enough space for a third extra battery, then why that free space was made unaccessible for a battery by frame tubing? Hardcore bike travellers or "hot rodders" want maximum battery capacity. I don't understand the purpose of that one frame tube that does "a turn" doesn't seem to have a structural purpose.
But at this price Lectric seems unbeatable
We have reviewed torque sensing cargo bikes with comparably sized rear racks but the XPedition 2.0 battery capacity is exceptional at this price point.
Thanks for watching! -Producer Tim
deals.missgoelectric.com
Thanks for providing the critical feedback about the bike. Obviously this is a brand new bike, but this is the first review with suggestions for improvements. That's really helpful when comparing with other similarly priced bikes, like the Radwagon 5 or Flyer Via Pro.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. We try to provide the information which helps people find the best bike for their lifestyle. Some creators just want to sell bikes.
Each of our 100 reviews concludes with opportunities for improvement as well as strengths. We have reviewed many competitors including some you have mentioned. You can see them all here:
eBikes.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
I agree, it was great that she talked about criticisms. I am curious why so many reviews don't actually mention comparable products and how this bike compares to specific competitor models. It seems that manufacturers are limiting what reviewers can talk about in exchange for product access.
@joshwilson1316 it's because reviewers will get commission for affiliate sales so to sell more bikes it's best to make it look good. We want people to find the right bike for them and don't prioritize sales.
Lectric offers basic bikes at a consumer friendly price. They are easy to personalize. Gary’ Ebike adventures has done wonders with plain bikes.
Thanks for watching Gary.
We hope you'll enjoy about 100 more eMobility reviews on this channel plus hundreds of informative videos on the other Miss GoElectric channels.
-Producer Tim
Suspension fork is what I want on my Gen 1 Xpedition. Why no cruise control?
@@kona_moon6055Cost and safety are the primary factors which drive feature inclusion decisions. We didn't have specific insight related to this one. -Producer Tim
You look very graceful riding the e-bike
The torque sensor on the Xpedition 2 accelerates predictably. Smooth power application is one of its strengths. Thanks for watching this review and commenting. -Producer Tim
if you are going to have a rear rack that long, you might as well put in room for a 3rd battery.
However, if ebike tech continues to improve at its current rate, we will probably see a 500 mile range ebike in the next 10 to 20 years.
If ebikes took inspiration from bike packing bikes, and using that as a metric for storage, then they would probably reach these ranges already.
However that would mean ebikes would be way more heavier, and be harder to control, almost like riding a motorcycle.
However, depending on how you store the batteries, they would need a central intelligent smart charger that can recharge all the batteries at the same time. Recharge times would be in the smart car levels of needed requirement.
Cargo bikes must be large and heavy to haul heavy loads. Many form factors are required to electrify transportation. This is one.
Guide.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
how far can you go 28mph on long range battery in miles
That is impossible to answer. Too many factors.
Surface type, topography, temperature, wind, rider shape and weight, and tire pressure all affect range.
-Producer Tim
Just to do a clarification if this is unlocked to a class three. It is not really a class three because class three is pedal assist only. If you have an operating throttle, regardless of what it stops at, it is not a classified e-bike. Remember class three is pedal assist only. There is no combination of class two and class three I know it seems kind of picky, but I am going to really start getting on this because these DTC e-bikes are going to ruin it for people who are just pedal assist and riding these like a bicycle.
It depends on the state writing the rules. California, for example, doesn't allow Class 3 ebikes to have throttles at all. In other states, throttles are allowed as long as they only work up to 20 miles per hour, while pedal-assisted electric power continues up to 28 miles per hour. --quote from Wired
@ thank you for your response and you actually are falling into exactly what they want you to fall into. You’re getting your information from a bike company. I am unaware of any state that does not call a class three with pedal assist only. If you Google class 3E bike. You will be flooded with bike companies interpretation of it. I would ask you to look at the state that you live in actual statutes. I’m not trying to say this to be picky. But most of these companies are skirting the law because they know law enforcement can do nothing about it. My problem is, when law-enforcement cannot do anything, lawmakers end up doing something. These regulations will fall down on everybody.
@MissGoElectricRideReviews i would challenge you to show me one state law where the definition of a class three e bike says it can have a throttle up to twenty miles per hour. I would even ask you define one statute that states, a class three can go to twenty eight miles an hour without using the terminology "pedal assist only". I'm not trying to be argumentative, but these are the exact type of things that are going to lead to regulations out the wazoo. Do you really want to take your legal advice from a bicycle maker?
@southernebiking I think you're right. Technically, class 3 is no throttle at any speed. Maybe 20mph throttle will be added to class 3 as the laws evolve because it seems harmless
@MissGoElectricRideReviews by the way, and again, I am not trying to be argumentative, only stating what the actual law is. The link you provided very plainly. States, that class three provides a motor that is activated only when peddling. I will reiterate, i am only stating this because youtube reviewers should be passing this information along correctly. These companies know what the actual law states, and they are relying on those such as yourself to just show how easy it is to unlock. Of course, law enforcement can do nothing about this. But that in and of itself is a problem, because that is when lawmakers come in. I would hate to see us end up with regulations like europe has. If youtube reviewers would do their job, maybe the only ones that would be regulated are the ones that are not now already classified. And believe me, I am not trying to pick on your channel as I have great respect for it. But I believe this continued skirting of the law is bad for the industry.
😅 Hi my friend? Haven't see you in a awhile.
We may have posted more content this quarter to all three RUclips channels than ever before. We hope you'll have a look around!
www.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
"Check out the Lectric Xpedition with this discount link" that's the standard deal - you have any discounts?
Sometimes the discount link is for a special deal. Right now the Black Friday deals are better than our discount for most manufacturers.
When viewers use our link, Lectric can see that our video was helpful to buyers. At the very least, that can improve our odds of getting access to review more ebikes in the future. That helps us a lot.
Thank you for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim
@@MissGoElectricRideReviews I watched all ten XPedition 2 video reviews from the Lectric website and yours is the only one that says you're offering a discount, so you might want to reconsider your approach. Honestly, a Lectric referral code like yours has always been just that - a referral bonus for you and no special pricing (and almost every other review is explicit about that fact). At least I haven't seen any deviation from that model for the past four months I've been watching reviews of the Lectrics, nor have I seen anyone promise a discount by using their referral code. I was really surprised and excited to see you were promising a discount.
When we have an active coupon code, we'll add it to deals.missgoelectric.com
Thanks for watching!
-Producer Tim
The "beautiful" cargo bikes are a lot more expensive specially considering what this one offers. The welds are kinda inconsequential.
In this video Miss GoElectric pointed out that looks might not be a factor for utility-only riders. Looks WILL be important to lifestyle riders. They care about color options, paint quality, cable management, graphics, frame design, and weld blending.
How do we know they do? We have spoken with thousands of riders on the GoElectric Group rides all over the USA. We've read thousands of comments on the nearly 100 eBike reviews we've produced to date.
We have reviewed cargo bikes at very similar prices with significantly more attention paid to design.
You can find many of our reviews at
Deals.missgoelectric.com
-Producer Tim
This is good value but the "beautiful" ones have features this doesn't...most of them have mid drives which are more realistic in feel when riding vs more motorized bike feeling that hub motors have.Some other beautiful ones have better security and storage options. Etc. etc
That said, this thing is very special...it addresses a lot of my issues with the 1.0 version and I see myself buying this soon...it's all the bike I need...till I can afford the beautiful ones at least, 😆
the long range batteries with this bike make it cost $1900. The title is very misleading.
The title cannot contain every package and price. Characters are limited. Titles with the starting price is common practice.
We show all pricing on screen in the first few minutes. We do not mislead. We inform.
-Producer Tim
Perhaps title “Starting at $1399”. Either way good information.
We have room for details in the description. The limited character count in a title necessitates brevity. Thank you for watching! -Producer Tim