Toe Hang VS. Face Balanced Putters | TaylorMade Golf
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2022
- What's the difference between a toe-hang and face-balanced putter? What type of putting stroke fits best for each unique hosel design? Using the all-new Spider GT putter from TaylorMade Golf, @trottiegolf is here to tell you everything you need to know when deciding which hosel type to test out.
For more information on the wide variety of hosel options you can find in the Spider GT line, visit: tmgolf.co/IGSpiderGT 
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This is a man that loves his job
Who wouldn't love what he does
@@vincentgreenholt112 I was gonna say it myself, I mean...who gets up in the morning like, Ehh! Gotta go in today and test out all the new putters, clubs and balls from TaylorMade, & I don't feel like it. My Ass! I would be the 1st person in every morning to see everything 1st!
Agreed!
But I am a man who loves his job… and I want one like him. :D
@4ryanthomas
No doubt, the clearest, best spoken and no nonsense presentation of putting I have EVER seen. Chris, you are the best.
Always wondered what the differences are. Perfectly done Chris🔥
Dropping some serious knowledge on what you should use on the carpet! Thanks Trottie!
You’re the man for all options. And you allow average golfer to follow your thoughts. We all love the game. 😊😊
The most helpful golf video I have watched. Thank you
Great no nonsense video. Loved it
Most informative golf vid ever created!
Thanks! Great video explaining!
Excellent job explaining the difference between face balanced and toe balanced putters. This includes your explaining the different shaft bends accompanying each style putter! I have putted with both styles and I can't really say which I prefer most.
Amazing video
I personally use a Centre Shaft small mallet as I find it very easy to line up. Ive tried everything and just cant beat it however CS putters arent that popular.
Although Im only 180cms tall I also have a 36" shaft so more upright, not sure whether that also influences the CS.
No matter how you choose to putt, consistency at the strike is all the ball cares about. Having a consistent stroke helps us deliver that consistent strike, but the balls doesn't care one bit what happens before or after it gets slapped.
Brilliant!
Thanks
Thanks! I've been gaming the TP Juno for years now. I've modified it just a bit to suit my eye and allow for the toe hang to increase ever so slightly.
In the end, however great this putter has performed, it has always been down to whether I can execute sound technique though..
Do you know if they Juno is still available brand new? I could only find it used.
@@thoyo it's around! And I found a brand new Lefty that I almost bought too, but turns out it was only a 34" and I wanted 35@least really closer to a 36. Settled on a Taylormade OS Daytona and i never thought it could be this good
@@markprice2225 Happy that worked out for you! Not long after my last comment, I bought a used Juno Patina. I like it for the most part. Maybe I'll change out the weights for something a bit lighter.
Chris, quick question about the inserts. I have been putting with the spider since the red came out. I now putt with the bronze spider. I got the spider EX last year and just didn’t like the feel of the insert. Seemed too soft to me as opposed to the spider models I have had before. I also use the short neck. So are the inserts on the new models the same as the EX of last year or different. Is my thought on the inserts a correct one from bronze model spider to EX spider..
The “Flooowwww Neck” 😂.
I just want to play one round with Chris. What a cool dude! I still use my Taylormade Burner LCGs from the late 90s. I'm a 6 handicap with them still. I upgraded to new Pings but went right back to my trusty Taylormades. I use the M3 driver and SpiderX putter.
Where do you live fella….. let’s see how possible that game might be
If your a good putter you can adjust to any type of putter, I have used a toe hang putter for years and never had a problem, used other types also and had no problems using them, either you can put or not.
It is true that there is an inertial "restoring force" that tries to align the center of mass (CoM) behind the pulling force for face balanced putters - BUT
1. There is also a gravitational force that tries to make the CoM fall below the point of suspension, and due to the lie angle, that causes a face-balanced putter to fall open. The magnitude of the gravitational force is many many times larger than the restoring force for any reasonable putting stroke acceleration. The G force is at least 50x the restoring force at putting stroke speeds.
2. The inertial force works in the wrong direction during the back stroke, so the CoM tries to align the putter face pointing backwards. In the absense of the gravitational force that overwhelms everything, this would make the putter face start to spin towards the wrong direction as you go back, and it would still be spinning (rotational inertia) at transition. Then as the stroke starts forward, the force reverses, and tries to counteract the existing spin. If the face had not yet rotated to 180 degrees (facing backward), the new force would slow down the spin. If the face had rotated past 180 degrees and was already "coming around", the new force would increase the rate of spin. Eventually, if the forward stroke were infinitely long, the forward force would eventually overcome the spin and it would settle down with the face pointing forward (ignoring the G force), but in practice, the forward stroke would have to be many times longer than the backstroke before the spin "settles out".
3. The "restoring force" only exists when the club is accelerating under hand pressure moving the shaft, not when it is in "pendulum tempo" (i.e. a smooth stroke). In pendulum tempo, the forward restoring force is practically nil, and the ratio of the G force to the inertial force is extraordinarily large. In a smooth stroke, you must accelerate the club to start it moving backwards initially, which causes the counter-rotation (2), then for the rest of the stroke there is no acceleration due to the shaft, just the pendulum action due to gravity acting on the clubhead. So the only time the "restoring force" acts is in the wrong direction.
Conclusion - very few golf experts actually understand physics.
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This is a great vid. I am becoming a Taylormade fanboy lol
Thanks for review and explanations….. can u advise? I feel like a want to be right over the top of the ball with a straight back and through motion and path, however my misses are to the right. Any advise on best hozel? Thanks
*IF you are Properly Aimed,* then you need less Toe Flow/Hang or even a Face Balanced Putter to bring the Ball towards the Pull Side (Left for a Righthanded Putter).
I have a putter that slightly has the opposite of toe hang. It's basically face balanced but the toe actually points slightly up. It's a plumber neck Wilson Infinite Bucktown.
Hi Chris. I have an out to in slice putting stroke and miss 90% of my putts left, what putter would you recommend? Write back thanks
When I first saw the title I thought Toe Hang was a new golfer Taylor Made sponsored
i use slant neck toe hang, and often i miss it left. should i use face balanced putter?
NOT if you are a Right Handed Putter!
FB will Increase a "pull side miss".
*You need to work on your Aim and your Stroke.*
Or get a Putter with MORE TF/H.
I want a Spider FCG in an L neck sooooo badly, just don't want to shell out the cash for it right now
#teamtoeflow
Proven to be popular
Every time I play a guy with a toe hang putter I immediately know I got the advantage.
How will a toe hang putter effect my straight back straight forward stroke? Because I love the look of a slant neck putter
The toe hang will come into play on longer putts, don't stress it too much, if you love the toe hang I'd say go with your preference unless you aren't boxing your fair share with it
WHEN you miss, is your tendency to be on the PULL Side or the PUSH Side of the Hole?
( Righthanded: would be LEFT or RIGHT of the Hole.)
Increasing Toe Flow/Hang will move the Ball towards the PUSH Side of the Hole - all other things remaining equal.
6:17 everywhere
“It will want to stay SQUUUAAAAAAR”
I don’t find this to be true at all. If someone had a left miss, wouldn’t more toe hang be better, since the face wants to open more? In stroking numerous putters, I’ve found face balanced putters are easier to miss left
In another video he says the exact opposite.
Face Balanced does *keep the Face Square to Path.*
Toe Flow/Hang actually wants to *Close on the Backstroke AND then Open on the Foward Stroke.*
This helps keep the *Face Square to the Target Line,* or the Tangent to the Arc Path.
*All other things being equal* FB moves the Ball towards the Pull Side of the Hole, and TF/H increasingly moves the Ball to the Push Side of the Hole.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 both want to open, more toe hang just means it wants to open more. That’s the way it seems to me
@@n41698m learn what *"Stays Square to Path"* means.
PATH is the way the Head Moves.
This is what FB heads do.
That's why they increase PULL!
@@n41698m A Face Balanced Putter will NOT Open of its own accord.
Do not confuse an Arcing Path with the Face Opening or Closing.
There is no such thing as a "Pure" Straight Back, Straight Through Stroke. It is just how little or How much the Path Arcs.
The String is the Target Line, Not the Path of the Putter.
A Toe Flow Putter will attempt to stay Square to the Target Line as the Head Arcs inside on the Path of the Head.
How come no one on tour uses the new spider gt…. Sad
Rickie is in it
Garcia too
Any shaft with a twist or hosel puts a putter in a out of balanced torque position during motion, thus the use of the term "balanced" is here in a misnomer I believe having NO torque in the motion of a putter assists players the best is is just science. Putters like a HONU or Lab help eliminate the twisting in the ark and the heads are more stable. This is all nice information but ..
That's not how physics works, though.... The face balanced clubhead's centre of mass lies directly behind the axis of the shaft.
As the shaft is pulled through the air, that centre of mass WILL align itself behind the rotational axis.
The clubheads will fall behind the shaft in motion, as seen when the clubs are laid flat.
Are u supposed to be in NIKES?!?😜
Any I idea how Ben Crenshaw was such an accomplished putter long before anybody had any of this rhetoric. Or Tiger who has really never paid much attention to any of it either.
Tiger may have switched to Taylormade woods and irons, but he still plays a Scotty Cameron ie. Titleist putter, eh.
Just a bunch of marketing crap.
Your first point has nothing to do with you second... Putters can be very personal once you find one that works well...
@@ianandcharlottetarrant9394 so you are trying to tell me, at age 70, having owned enough putters that I cannot even count, that putter feel is a personal thing.
In 2007 when I was golfing a lot and about as good as I ever did, I had two putters that I swapped out according to green speed.
I used the Odyssey Tri Hot for faster greens where the insert helped me with a light touch and the Ping Redwood without insert for slower greens.
My current putter is a Tad Moore Physics that works just fine. I got it in a bunch of clubs I bought at a yard sale for 10 dollars.
And since when do you get to be the people who decide whether one point has anything to do with another. All of my words are about putters, the topic at hand.
And by the way I have a Masters Degree in Education and 17 years of experience as a teacher and administrator. I might know a thing of two about putting words together, eh.
I am a huge fan of Trottie and the whole Taylormade crew, but in this case, for the average and even above average golfer, he is trying to sell vastly overpriced stuff based on what it costs to keep him working.
@@davidwilson2657 🤡🤡🤡
He says the face balanced is square to the line but it's clearly not. Snake oil.
He said, "the FB stays *Square to the Path"* OF THE PUTTER HEAD, not 'the line' which is exactly what it does.