The only thing missing in your comparisons is a Sound Demo with the exact same melody & playstyle with direct recording through Audio or USB output. 10 Seconds with all dynamics (soft/hard, low/high) would already be enough. Since it's ultimately up to one's taste, all that explaining sure may help but always leaves one wondering a bit in the end as the speakers may alter the impression. That would round it up perfectly! Otherwise very professional comparison. Highly appreciated.
One of the best, most detailed and informative reviews I have seen. The reviewer hits on all the things that matter and gives a balanced and honest review. Much appreciated.
Should have mentioned that with the FP-10, it has 15 voices, but if using Roland's app, it actually gives you access to the 35 voices that the FP-30 has. For reference, the Yamaha has 24. So the Roland FP-10 does have more with the use of the app.
I have a P125 and I'm really happy about it. Maybe I need more experience but I'm totally fall in love to play it everyday. Luckily we have so many options to chose these days
After seeing this review I though that the Roland was the better choise. My daugther, after playing both, found the Yamaha more givng the feel as a real Yamaha Grand Piano. Also that the Yamaha was sounding better. The same conclusion by comparing the FP30 with the P125.
Fantastic summary and comparison. You've covered all the differences as well as explained all the key terms and information needed to know for making an informed decision. Definitely the best and most helpful guide I've found.
I looked for a comparison and didn't find one when I was shopping. i ended up buying FP10. I am little more than a beginner but came up from a 61 key keyboard. Now that I see this comparison I realize that I bought the correct DP fir myself. I love the sound on the Roland. Thanks Merriam Music for this comparison.
So great to hear/see that you got yourself a piano you love! The FP10 is a great one, I'm sure you'll enjoy it for many years. Thanks for the comments, and for watching! Have a great 2020 :) -stu
Fantastic video, thank you. This will be my first digital piano purchase after coming from a small grand, and I'm going to go with the Roland. I've always disliked the "bright" Yamaha sound, even on acoustics, it's always sounded metallic and jarring to me, so I love the softer Roland sound - more like a Steinbeck ^_^ And since I'm going to be playing classical solo piano I think it's more important to go for quality over quantity for individual notes - even Rachmaninoff never needs more than 80 notes at a time, but to be able to get that tonal quality for each note will be priceless.
The Roland FP10 & FP30 are the metallic-sounding ones this generation if you hook them up to good speakers. On their own with internal speakers, the Roland pianos sound better.
@@Jason75913 That's so weird, why would they sound better with the internal speakers than "good" speakers? I did end up getting the FP30 though and I love it :)
@Hoàng Peter Does it or is that people say it so much it is what people are hearing? I usually go with mellow as a soft piano tone and bright just meaning having more treble in the tone.
@@pravinkulkarni8196 I purchased it and I was quite happy about the purchase. I had to sell it because I moved abroad, but I could sell for a high price. Highly recommended.
I just bought the Roland FP10!! I never been so hyped for a purchase in my life! Also semi because it's slightly too expensive for being a student but i am so thrilled to switch from a cheap 100$ keyboard to this beast!
Stu, you are the man! I am trying to find a suitable piano for myself and nothing on RUclips comes close to your content. I don’t need a 90 minute video which has a 30 second demo of every single feature available on a single keyboard. Many beginner video do this, but every single point in your videos is hitting the nail of what I need to know and compare! ❤ Unfortunately I am not in Canada but if I was, I would make my purchases only at Meriam.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you kindly for tuning into our channel! I will be happy to pass along your kind words to Stu on your behalf. He certainly does a great job at presenting the critical points of consideration for each model. :)
Wow! This was a great comparison video. I love how you explained some of the terms, this is super helpful for a beginner like me. I'm sold on the FP10. Going to get it this weekend!
Had a max budget of $500 and wanted the closest I could get to our yahama upright in our family living room (I hate practicing in front of people, performings cool). Went with the Roland for the action and optional midi usb is very nice when you just want to sit down and play as an upgrade from $200 midi keyboards.
Your video helped me with my decision. 👍🙂 For me ist will be the Roland. I understood your English very well. Thank you very much and best regards from Germany!
Hello from Canada! You're very welcome! We're very happy to hear that the video assisted you through your decision making process. Enjoy your Roland FP10! :)
FP30 sounds much better through its own onboard speakers than P-125 does with its speakers, but hooked up to good speakers like Yamaha HS7s and the P-125 murders the Rolands through those upgrade speakers or any others, beautiful sound
Outstanding, very informative video. Helped me choose the FP-10 as I am just about to start piano lessons and I want something with the best feel in my price range. Thank you!
Yamaha adjustment can be a nightmare as I discovered on my P35 where they describe the adjustment keys along the lines of their short keyboards. Some keys are flagged with engraving on the keyboard but things such as MIDI or split operation are a mess because they call C4 C3 so resetting default MIDI for example when the manual states C6 it means C7 and their support people often do not know this as I discovered over email enquiries.
Hey Marcooos, we actually have shot that vid as well. We saw a lot of interest in both comparisons (so that's why we did both), but you're correct in that the P125 and FP30 is the closer match up feature and price wise.
@@MerriamPianos there is no video comparing FP-30 and P125 on your channel. only FP vs FP and some Kawai comaprisons with P125 and FP. I could use triangulation to compare, but there is no direct comparison. If you deleted it in the last two weeks just don't mind what I said...
Heya, thanks for the reviews. Could you tell more about the sound of the FP-10 speakers (from an entry budget point of view)? Especially about the deep end It's really important to me since I don't want to plug-in headphones or amp each time I play, I need a good sound (not especially powerful, more in terms of quality/fidelity) By chance, could you compare it to the the korg B2 and Casio CDP-S350 (the only ones I've tested) :D
@@harrybaines Actually, FP30 has speakers on the bottom as well. They probably share the same speakers, just FP30 has better AMP built in. FP30 has much better bass response than FP10 (I owned both).
I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I subscribed. I am a professional pianist, obviously I would prefer a Hamburg Steinway to practice on but if I were after the best sound and most natural touch in a keyboard which keyboard would you suggest? I’d prefer to not spend more than a grand but I’d possibly go to $1500. Any advice would be much appreciated! Btw, I used to own a CP300 but it was just too heavy.
Always nice to watch your videos. I think you make the best piano domes because you can also play very well. wonderful to hear from you. I would be very interested in what you would say about the Gewa PP digital piano ... best regards from Germany, thanks for your great videos
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning into our channel! We're glad you have been enjoying Stu's reviews/comparisons. I am not familiar with the Gewa PP piano, so, unfortunately, I cannot offer any commentary on that particular model.
@fartpoobox ohyeah Two different opinions. One is not right or wrong. It comes down to personal preference. Roland and Yamaha both are excellent brands. I have a Yamaha, my girlfriend has a Roland digital piano. I enjoy both equally but for totally different reasons. Ultimately, I'm most musical on the Yamaha, but, some connect more with the Roland's sound.
I'm a Kawai guy but personally between these two, I would choose the P125. I've owned both Roland and Yamaha and .. I'm sorry to Roland but it just sounds too artificial. The sustain is too short. Very metallic sound. The feel is alright tho.
That's the thing. I agree with most of what the presenter said and enjoy his playing. However, I can't agree with if you are using the piano primarily as a piano go for the Roland over the Yamaha. And it's because the Yamaha has that Yamaha sound that a lot of people connect with. I do agree that Yamaha's action, piano key feel isn't as nice as the Roland's. And maybe the Roland's piano sound is somewhat more "complex." And I have no problem with enjoying the Roland's piano sounds. But I dig the Yamaha's piano sounds and I primarily would get the Yamaha because of the piano sounds and only occasionally use the other sounds and put up with the less than optimal action. But I don't think the Yamaha sound is better or worse than the Roland's. Just different. I think in the higher level Yamaha's, I prefer the Yamaha's tones and also like the Kawai's tones and Nord's tone over the Roland's tones. But not on this level.
I heard the same thing and came to the comments to see if anyone heard it, too! But since nobody seems bothered by it, maybe it's just the result of the recording technique?
@@atreq i'm currently looking for a piano and I also heard the clicking noices on the Roland. I was leaning towards the FP10 but I'm not too keen on the sounds of the keys.
I have tried both and Roland Keyboard action is way better then Yamaha. Yamaha gives you a springy feel as if there are springs behind the keys and that is what is causing fatigue. The Roland has every key waited individually and has escapement. The rest of the difference I don’t care and a piano student should not either. If you want more feature then you should go up the range of whichever brand you feel has a better keyboard feel for you.
I tried a Yamaha p 45 earlier this week. It seemed to be weird as it felt like I had to push through something to get the note to sound. It was playable, but it kind of threw me at the beginning, I did adapt to it and was able to play.
Thanks for the video. I am looking for my first digital piano. I found Casio CDP - S100 to be an interesting option for a beginner. What are your thoughts?
The sound of that one is really shit compared to Yamaha and roland. But you can always use a DAW for the sound engine.better go for a p45 as it is same as p125 except for the polyphony and inline outputs
7:00 I don't know whether anyone else here has ever mentioned it - to my personal taste (and based on my very limited experience of trying them out), Yamahas generally seem to have very own kind of action, including one of their acoustic instruments, and that word you use - 'spongy' - aligns well with my impression of them (again, including acoustic ones).
It is true that Yamaha pianos have a very distinct touch. That is the case with most manufacturers. Every manufacturer has their own philosophy in terms of what the perfect piano tone and touch is. This leads to quite a big disparity in terms of the feel of the actions from manufacturer to manufacturer.
question for anyone who's used both. I want to get one of these for a 5 year old so she can start learning on playground sessions. I've watched about 15 videos on each and some comparison videos too. The Roland has a heavier key action, I know my hands could adjust to it no problem. But, I'm not sure how it would be for a 5 year old. Would it maybe be better to go with the P125?
The action on the Yamaha is pretty heavy but in a good way. At least for me who had played keyboards, digital and acoustic. So this kind of piano would be pretty nice for a 5 year old.
I don't think the Roland has a heavier key action. I don't love the Yamaha action. But I like Yamaha's quality and consistency and the Yamaha piano sounds.
Listening with Sony Bluetooth headphones on my computer, some of the Roland piano voices are extremely nice. I think Jeremy See said the Roland has a a synthesized escapement in the action. Again, I love your wonderful pianistic styling. There's one guy on RUclips who does a lot of piano reviews, but he's a rather poor piano player. I never get a feeling for what the instrument can really do. In contrast, when you demonstrate an instrument one can really appreciate the potential of the instrument under the hands of a very competent pianist.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I will certainly add it to the list of potential video candidates for the future. With that said, with so many models out there, it is difficult to tackle them all. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
Hi. Great comparison and thanks for it! I'm almost decided on the FP 10, but ... How will the speakers sound if the instrument will be placed on a desk? Unfortunately I don't hace space to put it on correct keyboard stand. I can use home audio system of course, but I'd like to know it as well.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it. Obviously, the sound won't be as optimal compared to if it was mounted on a proper stand, but it will still be quite satisfying. I have a digital piano that I use for production purposes set up on my studio workspace desk and, personally, the slight fidelity loss doesn't bother me at all.
Listening on good headphones, the Yamaha convincingly beats the Roland for sound quality to my ears, especially on the Rhodes sound (which you pick out as superior on the Roland). I hear a very unauthentic attack to the Rhodes on the Roland, particularly if I compare it with the sound of my real 1971 Suitcase 73.
Just a simple question to be supersure about it, because i made a mistake in the past. Are they both "heavy-keys" pianos (the keys' weight is very close to a real piano one), aren't they?
Thank you very much! This is exactly the kind of video I was looking for! A detailed comparison, with a real description of the differences between the two pianos, and understandable for the beginner I am! Could you please compare the ES-110 with Roland's FP-10? I've heard that the FP-10 is the best under $500, and the ES-110 is the best under $800, but is the $300 difference worth it? Will the FP-10 be frustrating after a few years of training? Thank you very much, your videos are awesome!
Roland FP10 looks great in paper, but dissapoints me in the half pedal function, because is not continuos like FP30..., it is only 3 levels. What do you think about it?.
@CSI Hi friend, thanks for answer but the pedal itself is not the problem; is the continuous pedal recognition function in the FP10 internal implementation.
@@ferdearmas8732 I'm no expert but in just my humble opinion, we should not be really worried about that. I see both the FP10 and FP-30 as beginner instruments for piano learners, it's just that the FP-30 it's a bit better and feature packed. If somebody is an intermediate to advanced player then both the FP-10 and FP-30 are limiting instruments, he/she will outgrow them. Yes ok, the FP-10 is a bit more limiting with less polyphony and 3 step damper pedal, but not by so much. If you will really get into the advanced technical nuances of acoustic piano playing you'll outgrow any digital instrument at these prices
Last week went to 2 separate stores. Store A is a dealer for Yamaha & Casio. Store B has the Roland keyboards. After trying a few, came to the conclusion that Roland has the better deal. Yamaha intentionally made their entry keyboard P-125 feel cheap so the advanced players will buy their higher up P-515 & Clavinova. The keys on the P-125 have a smooth surface which feels like cheap plastic. Even the 3-pedal foot pedal unit (sold separately) is made of plastic compared to the one for the P-515 made of brass. The sustain pedal that comes with the P-125 is flimsy but does the job. In terms of sound, Roland has the Supernatural sound engine which is quite good. The low-end Yamaha P-125 tend to sound a bit artificial at times so they can push people into their higher end keyboards. After playing on a grand piano, the keys on a Roland with a rough texture and action feel more like an acoustic from the FP-10 up to a FP-60. By the time you get to a FP-90 you start getting into more professional features.
Is this something a pure beginner should take into account too? Im getting my first (digital) piano and its a split between the roland FP10 and yamaha P-125. I tend to lean towards the Yamaha because of the sound variations and the app that comes with it. I really just wanna play stuff like Ill Vento D'oro and some other OST's i like haha
@@musashi-avi284 People who lean towards Classical music tend to prefer any keyboard that has an action similar to an acoustic piano (especially a grand piano) besides a realistic piano sound. I find that the action of a Yamaha is a bit lighter than a Roland. After a while of playing, it is easier to switch between a Roland and a Steinway because the action is similar. If you are not getting into serious Classical music and don't switch between a keyboard & acoustic at all, the action may not as big of an issue down the road.
I got Roland FP-10 three years ago. I had it for 3-4 months and I replaced it with A88 mkII. Three months later, I got Roland FP-30X that I had for four months. Do you see a pattern developing? Yes, each and every time I replaced a Roland digital piano with (such a great) PHA-4 action because the keys developed annoying clicking noise (lots of RUclips videos about this problem). I did hope that it was just a problem with one implementation of this action, each and every time (till I smartened up). Michael Ps. I am going to rent a FP-10 just to check if I was imagining this clicking noise. I will definitely post my new findings in comments!
I am sorry to hear that you have experienced issues with the PHA4 action in the past. I am a bit surprised to hear that as the PHA4 action is typically extremely reliable. It is one of the actions with the lowest warranty claim rates that we carry.
@@MerriamPianos Perhaps it also depends on how sensitive digital piano users are to clicking noise of the action. I definitely am and so is my family (I mostly practice using headphones or play at very low volume). NWX was the quietest action I had, PHA50 was the second best in this respect. The worst was the action of ES110 that I returned the following day. ES120 or any Kawai action are almost equally problematic. I frankly do not care if a Kawai sales person tells me that acoustic piano actions are also loud and sometimes bouncy - I would not play them with my headphones on (unless it were a hybrid piano) and frankly I just want quiet action. The problem with clicking noise of PHA-4 after some time is well known. I think that even Stu mentioned this issue when talking about PHA50 action and comparing it with PHA-4. Anyway, I will test it again and I will record the noise of the action (I did it for all returned Roland pianos). Michael
you have 88 keys in piano, so it doesnt make any problem unless you wont overlay few effects, wich still would not affect the sound much (perhaps it would not at all)
Is there a difference in how you access the sounds, does Yamaha have an app, Yamaha CFX OR CFIII. is there a difference between sampling and modeling? I am between Yamaha P515 and Roland s90 help me with a similar comparison
I owned a CLP 635 (with CFX sound)... I switched to a P125 because I like the CFIII sounds waaay nicer imo. Love that clear, glassy tone. Its a more dynamic sample too.
@@jortepap Yes, some people prefer the older CFIII and C7 type of tone compared to Yamaha's revised CFX and C7X type of tone. Yamaha didn't want to be associated with just a bright sound and wanted it to be more suitable to primarily classical and jazz and less so pop. So, they changed the sound. They did make their CFX digital sound brighter than what's found in most of the acoustic versions, however. There is a bright piano and studio piano on the 515 that I think is based off of the older Yamaha sound.
Hi, I know yamaha arius is not at the same comparison level with roland fp10. However, should I only need the closer feel with accoustic piano and for practise only for kids, which one should I choose? Thank you..
Unfortunately, neither of these pianos have dedicated line-outs for hooking up external speakers. However, the headphone output can be used to connect to external amps or PA systems.
Thanks Arnau, really appreciate the tip on this! Yes, it was in an OS update that allows the very top F and F# keys to enable/disable this function. Really appreciate the comment. -Stu
Hey guyz i want to buy the fp 10 but actully i have a stranger amplifier and i want to connect the amplifier to fp10.. But the fp10 has only a headphone jack... Plese tell me if i connect the piano via a 6.5 to 3.5 mm cable will the sound signal get lost or the quality will be maintained.... Plese reply... Replies will be highly aprriciated by me
Quick question, do you recommend the Roland Juno ds88 synthesizer? I would like to get advice from a professional. The money doesn't matter and I would like to upgrade form my dgx 660 to that digital piano. Please reply. THANK YOU.
tHANK YOU SO MUCH!aMAZING!!A little question))Im pianist and searching for a keyboards for play only piano!(maximal tender to natural) for play,create and records on PC my melodies...Not much money))So,choice-fp10,Korg B1,Kurzweil ka90,Privia s100(casio) or yamaha p105 ...Maybe,you know another one))Pleaaaseeee,your recomendations)Priory-sound and naturals feeling +good polifony...Thank you so much!!!
Definitely fp10 I’ve tried a lot of those in stores and the Roland was far superior in the action to me and the simulated ivory keys are really good. I ended up buying the fp10 and I do. Not regret it
Your videos are so useful. On youtube, I listenned to a piano piece called "le Moulin" by Yann Tiersen. The player had a Technics SX-P50. I loved the sound but this model must be old and out of stock. Do you know it ? What would be the alternative to this model ? I see the price would be around 300. thanks
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! I am not particular familiar with that model. It is a bit older and looks to be discontinued. With that said, the Roland FP10 and FP30X or Casio PXS1100 or PXS3100 might be good options that will give you a base tone and enough customization to achieve that kind of tonal profile. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you very much for your fast reply and detailed. I will check the models which may be above my budget, but sometimes it's worth to save more money to get good condtions to learn. Thanks again.
That comes down to subjectivity ultimately. Both pianos are very solid, but they offer something a bit different musically. For me, the FP10 has the edge because of its heavier, more authentic touch. :)
I am looking for an affordable keyboard as a present for my wife. She is a concert pianist and appreciates a fine instrument (e.g., Steinway or Bösendorfer), but for many reasons, we had to sell her grand piano a few years ago. I think she would enjoy playing a keyboard just for fun, but I don't want to spend $5k on a new professional piano keyboard. Would she be satisfied with this, or just feel like it's a toy?
Hi, excellent piano player...!, please somebody tell me in your preference order, taking in account the key action, finger to sound connection and more complex sound between: this Roland FP10, Korg D1, Kawai ES110 and Casio PX-S1000. Thanks!...
I would be interested in a recommendation / comparison between the Roland FP-10 and the Kawai ES110 also. I am looking for a good beginner’s piano and still haven’t fully decided between these 2.
Very tricky to order these. For piano experience, I'd personally put the Kawai first, then the FP10, then the Casio, and finally the Korg. One note on this 'list' - the only reason I put the FP10 below the ES110 would be the speaker size/quality, and the sample set. I happen to like the PHA-4 action better than what's on the ES110 personally...though it's a slight preference, not a drastic one. - stu
Thanks for answer Stu, and why did you prefer PHA-4 over RHC?, please give more details, cause, many people says that Roland key action is heavier and sluggish compared with Kawai actions, is your experience?, and what about FP30 vs FP10, is really the three level of pedal operation and poliphony an issue in FP10?. Did you really feel any big difference in key action, sound connection or big step in overall construction between FP30 and FP10?.
@@ferdearmas8732 There's definitely no difference in action between FP10 and FP30, and I don't find a construction quality difference either. Even though it's not written anywhere, I've done side-by-side comparison of the two on sound, and the FP30 is a more complex waveform...though I'm not sure I could tell the difference if it weren't side by side. I haven't found the PHA-4 action to be sluggish, but again that's just been my personal experience. The reason I prefer the PHA-4 over the RHC is that I find the RHC action to feel a bit too loose and the keys too bendable when playing more fast and aggressive passages...as in the lateral play and the accuracy isn't as good as the PHA-4 in those specific situations. Kawai seems to have resolved most of those in the RHC-II which is on the KDP110.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks Stu, and what about polyphony in FP10 for layer situations?, and what about the continuous pedal function in FP10?, many people are saying that this only have 3 levels and is not countinuos like FP30, are you agree?, is a real drawback?, i like the overall weight and compact design on the 10 over the 30.
@@cmggiacomo5300 HI Unfortunately the Yamaha manual states NO MIDI I found out after the post that in fact it means there are no MIDI IN OUT Ports. Since I use Bluetooth on my YAMAHA P35 that is a nuisance. Yamaha were late on the scene with MIDI, designed by Roland in conjunction with other major manufacturers, and made a mess of it. They misnamed the keys used to initiate it because they only had short keyboards, and still do call C4 C3 etc.. Their Bluetooth MIDI UDBT01 does not work on Microsoft - luckily Roland came to the rescue and I now use Roland WM-1 for iPad and the WM-1D USB interface for Microsoft. I have wasted enough money on Yamaha, who have a fascination with iPad, my next keyboard is going to be Roland probably FP30 or FP60. They have a better escapement action, an excellent sound engine and easy Android interfaces that can link to Microsoft along with straightforward MIDI interfaces.
Roland stopped making the FP10 and no longer sell them in the US. If you want one now, they're a minimum of $700USD used before shipping. The FP30 is also around $700USD. There's no longer a Roland in the FP10 price range. Bummer, huh?
The only thing missing in your comparisons is a Sound Demo with the exact same melody & playstyle with direct recording through Audio or USB output. 10 Seconds with all dynamics (soft/hard, low/high) would already be enough. Since it's ultimately up to one's taste, all that explaining sure may help but always leaves one wondering a bit in the end as the speakers may alter the impression. That would round it up perfectly! Otherwise very professional comparison. Highly appreciated.
One of the best, most detailed and informative reviews I have seen. The reviewer hits on all the things that matter and gives a balanced and honest review. Much appreciated.
Should have mentioned that with the FP-10, it has 15 voices, but if using Roland's app, it actually gives you access to the 35 voices that the FP-30 has. For reference, the Yamaha has 24. So the Roland FP-10 does have more with the use of the app.
I have a P125 and I'm really happy about it. Maybe I need more experience but I'm totally fall in love to play it everyday. Luckily we have so many options to chose these days
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After seeing this review I though that the Roland was the better choise. My daugther, after playing both, found the Yamaha more givng the feel as a real Yamaha Grand Piano. Also that the Yamaha was sounding better. The same conclusion by comparing the FP30 with the P125.
Fantastic summary and comparison. You've covered all the differences as well as explained all the key terms and information needed to know for making an informed decision. Definitely the best and most helpful guide I've found.
I looked for a comparison and didn't find one when I was shopping. i ended up buying FP10. I am little more than a beginner but came up from a 61 key keyboard. Now that I see this comparison I realize that I bought the correct DP fir myself. I love the sound on the Roland. Thanks Merriam Music for this comparison.
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Is it a good one?
So great to hear/see that you got yourself a piano you love! The FP10 is a great one, I'm sure you'll enjoy it for many years. Thanks for the comments, and for watching! Have a great 2020 :) -stu
@@MerriamPianos thank you for your reaction back. I love the interaction with the vieuwers! Keep up the good work 👍
One of the best comparison reviews I have seen. Thank you.
Fantastic video, thank you. This will be my first digital piano purchase after coming from a small grand, and I'm going to go with the Roland. I've always disliked the "bright" Yamaha sound, even on acoustics, it's always sounded metallic and jarring to me, so I love the softer Roland sound - more like a Steinbeck ^_^ And since I'm going to be playing classical solo piano I think it's more important to go for quality over quantity for individual notes - even Rachmaninoff never needs more than 80 notes at a time, but to be able to get that tonal quality for each note will be priceless.
The Roland FP10 & FP30 are the metallic-sounding ones this generation if you hook them up to good speakers. On their own with internal speakers, the Roland pianos sound better.
@@Jason75913 That's so weird, why would they sound better with the internal speakers than "good" speakers? I did end up getting the FP30 though and I love it :)
@@allnaturalfigjam310 The internal speakers hide the downsides to their sound.
The review itself is worth watching! So knowledge and professionalism!
I bought an FP-10 and really like it. If I had to pick a more premium one it would be the Yamaha P-515.
And which key action did you prefer between Yamaha and Roland?...
Andrew Kim Is it true that FP10 does not have any rhythm functions? Not even through piano partner app?
hey Andrew, have you noticed any clicking noises on the black keys?
FP10 sounds softer, I like it.
Those 2 models were what I was exactly looking for to compare. I've decided to go with Yamaha P-125 after watching this video. Thank you so much.
@Hoàng Peter Does it or is that people say it so much it is what people are hearing? I usually go with mellow as a soft piano tone and bright just meaning having more treble in the tone.
@@benjaminsmith2287 the brilliance is adjustable to boot
Had u purchased it?? And if yes are u satisfied with it..??
@@pravinkulkarni8196 I purchased it and I was quite happy about the purchase. I had to sell it because I moved abroad, but I could sell for a high price. Highly recommended.
I just bought the Roland FP10!! I never been so hyped for a purchase in my life! Also semi because it's slightly too expensive for being a student but i am so thrilled to switch from a cheap 100$ keyboard to this beast!
Will be a huge improvement! Congrats buddy
"too expensive for a student"
nonsense, you went for the right digital piano
Pieter, merk je van die click geluiden als je de (zwarte) toetsen indrukt op de FP10?
@@MeneerWu heb hem nu een jaar en hoor alleen wat als ik op laag volume speel
Hi, read some comments there was a clicking issue with fp 10, is that real?
Stu, you are the man! I am trying to find a suitable piano for myself and nothing on RUclips comes close to your content. I don’t need a 90 minute video which has a 30 second demo of every single feature available on a single keyboard. Many beginner video do this, but every single point in your videos is hitting the nail of what I need to know and compare! ❤ Unfortunately I am not in Canada but if I was, I would make my purchases only at Meriam.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you kindly for tuning into our channel! I will be happy to pass along your kind words to Stu on your behalf. He certainly does a great job at presenting the critical points of consideration for each model. :)
Great summary and descriptions. It helped me make my final decision to get the roland FP10
Wow! This was a great comparison video. I love how you explained some of the terms, this is super helpful for a beginner like me. I'm sold on the FP10. Going to get it this weekend!
Thank you! We're glad it was helpful. You definitely can't go wrong with the FP10. It is a wonderful instrument! :)
This is one of the best comparison videos / reviews I've ever seen. Thank you!
Far and away the most informative review I've seen. Thank You.
Fantastic comparison! Great info about how to decide what is important. THANK YOU!!
Had a max budget of $500 and wanted the closest I could get to our yahama upright in our family living room (I hate practicing in front of people, performings cool). Went with the Roland for the action and optional midi usb is very nice when you just want to sit down and play as an upgrade from $200 midi keyboards.
So you can use sounds on an iPad or laptop and a DAW with the FP-10?
hey Michael, have you noticed any clicking noises of the keys? especially the black keys?
@@MeneerWu yep it happens over time as the grease inside gets displaced. There's a temporary fix you can do or get the grease replaced
Once again an excellent presentation. I'm already your fan, Stu. Much health and success I wish you.
Thanks so much for tuning in! I will be sure to pass on your kind compliments and well wishes to Stu. :)
This was a very informative, helpful and fun to watch comparison and review! Thank you you helped me make my mind :)
Thank you, Edward Norton.
Or Edward Furlong, the terminator kid.
Lol
Or Russel Crowe... "are you not entertained. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!". :D 😂
I was disappointed that Roland's SuperNATURAL sound engine was not referenced.
Its mentioned in the comments
Your video helped me with my decision. 👍🙂 For me ist will be the Roland.
I understood your English very well. Thank you very much and best regards from Germany!
Hello from Canada! You're very welcome! We're very happy to hear that the video assisted you through your decision making process. Enjoy your Roland FP10! :)
Roland fp10 might have a more complex waveform but the its speaker system is inferior to P125. So the sound coming out of p125 is much more resonant.
FP30 sounds much better through its own onboard speakers than P-125 does with its speakers, but hooked up to good speakers like Yamaha HS7s and the P-125 murders the Rolands through those upgrade speakers or any others, beautiful sound
Outstanding, very informative video. Helped me choose the FP-10 as I am just about to start piano lessons and I want something with the best feel in my price range. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Congrats on your FP10! I know you will be very happy with its excellent touch and tone! :)
17:56 Wow You're absolutely amazing👍 You really play the piano!
And the entire clip is very helpful THANK YOU SO MUCH it really did help me
As per their user manuals , you can adjust the key touch for two models to be heavier than the default one. ^^
Yamaha adjustment can be a nightmare as I discovered on my P35 where they describe the adjustment keys along the lines of their short keyboards. Some keys are flagged with engraving on the keyboard but things such as MIDI or split operation are a mess because they call C4 C3 so resetting default MIDI for example when the manual states C6 it means C7 and their support people often do not know this as I discovered over email enquiries.
Should be comparing Fp30 to the P125, they match up more evenly in Price
Hey Marcooos, we actually have shot that vid as well. We saw a lot of interest in both comparisons (so that's why we did both), but you're correct in that the P125 and FP30 is the closer match up feature and price wise.
@@MerriamPianos there is no video comparing FP-30 and P125 on your channel. only FP vs FP and some Kawai comaprisons with P125 and FP. I could use triangulation to compare, but there is no direct comparison. If you deleted it in the last two weeks just don't mind what I said...
No...FP10 and P125's price is very similar. FP30 is more expensive than those both about 150$......
@@couchcamperTM They have a FP30 v P125... Look first.
Not here where I live xD
8:40😯 if do this on my psr e363 it will definitely brakes all the black keys for sure. Well its good to see that p125 has good keys.
Just practice it slowly, I was scared at the beginning for the same reason 😌👍✨
thank you so much for the review, im leaning so much more into roland.
Thoroughly enjoyed that review, and watching you perform.
Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed the video! :)
Thank you - this helps A LOT !
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! :)
@@MerriamPianos Yes, I also enjoyed your excellent piano vids - was researching the craft of piano-making for writing a paper.
Heya, thanks for the reviews. Could you tell more about the sound of the FP-10 speakers (from an entry budget point of view)? Especially about the deep end
It's really important to me since I don't want to plug-in headphones or amp each time I play, I need a good sound (not especially powerful, more in terms of quality/fidelity)
By chance, could you compare it to the the korg B2 and Casio CDP-S350 (the only ones I've tested) :D
@@harrybaines Actually, FP30 has speakers on the bottom as well. They probably share the same speakers, just FP30 has better AMP built in. FP30 has much better bass response than FP10 (I owned both).
Roland of course.
I think under 800$ roland fp series are the best in sound action,and features
The Roland fp10 is very hard to find available. Roland failed on it.
I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I subscribed. I am a professional pianist, obviously I would prefer a Hamburg Steinway to practice on but if I were after the best sound and most natural touch in a keyboard which keyboard would you suggest? I’d prefer to not spend more than a grand but I’d possibly go to $1500. Any advice would be much appreciated! Btw, I used to own a CP300 but it was just too heavy.
Juno-DS88
Fantastic video! Thank you very much!
Always nice to watch your videos. I think you make the best piano domes because you can also play very well. wonderful to hear from you. I would be very interested in what you would say about the Gewa PP digital piano ... best regards from Germany, thanks for your great videos
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning into our channel! We're glad you have been enjoying Stu's reviews/comparisons. I am not familiar with the Gewa PP piano, so, unfortunately, I cannot offer any commentary on that particular model.
The Yamaha sound is incomparable. It´s a pity it doesn´t have a great action, no escapement like Roland, but the sound is superb !
@fartpoobox ohyeah Two different opinions. One is not right or wrong. It comes down to personal preference. Roland and Yamaha both are excellent brands. I have a Yamaha, my girlfriend has a Roland digital piano. I enjoy both equally but for totally different reasons. Ultimately, I'm most musical on the Yamaha, but, some connect more with the Roland's sound.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Benjamin, does your girlfriend have the FP-10? Does that piano have clicking noises on the (black) keys?
Excellent reviews. Thank You.
Great & Fantastique review! Cheers
I'm a Kawai guy but personally between these two, I would choose the P125. I've owned both Roland and Yamaha and .. I'm sorry to Roland but it just sounds too artificial. The sustain is too short. Very metallic sound. The feel is alright tho.
i always thought that Yamaha had the better sound and Roland the better action. get a Roland and midi to a Yamaha sampler
That's the thing. I agree with most of what the presenter said and enjoy his playing. However, I can't agree with if you are using the piano primarily as a piano go for the Roland over the Yamaha. And it's because the Yamaha has that Yamaha sound that a lot of people connect with. I do agree that Yamaha's action, piano key feel isn't as nice as the Roland's. And maybe the Roland's piano sound is somewhat more "complex." And I have no problem with enjoying the Roland's piano sounds. But I dig the Yamaha's piano sounds and I primarily would get the Yamaha because of the piano sounds and only occasionally use the other sounds and put up with the less than optimal action.
But I don't think the Yamaha sound is better or worse than the Roland's. Just different. I think in the higher level Yamaha's, I prefer the Yamaha's tones and also like the Kawai's tones and Nord's tone over the Roland's tones. But not on this level.
Thanks for the videos I bought this for my wife this week based on RUclips videos.
So you bought both?
@@THBakker69 lol no I'll clarify I bought the P125 and she loves it.
Very nice review. I think i go with Yamaha p-125. When you are playing i heard the key pressing sounds. Is that also happening in grand pianos too?
I heard the same thing and came to the comments to see if anyone heard it, too! But since nobody seems bothered by it, maybe it's just the result of the recording technique?
@@atreq i'm currently looking for a piano and I also heard the clicking noices on the Roland. I was leaning towards the FP10 but I'm not too keen on the sounds of the keys.
Which one is best according to you ???as I am planning to buy one of these .... please help me .... reply me
I have tried both and Roland Keyboard action is way better then Yamaha. Yamaha gives you a springy feel as if there are springs behind the keys and that is what is causing fatigue. The Roland has every key waited individually and has escapement. The rest of the difference I don’t care and a piano student should not either. If you want more feature then you should go up the range of whichever brand you feel has a better keyboard feel for you.
I tried a Yamaha p 45 earlier this week. It seemed to be weird as it felt like I had to push through something to get the note to sound. It was playable, but it kind of threw me at the beginning, I did adapt to it and was able to play.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!
Great reviews, very detailed and helps to chose with piano to go for! Thanks
Very well explained. Thank you so much.
Does that non-musical sound that is repeated during these minutes 13:00 - 13:23, comes from the pedal or from playing the keys?
Thanks for the video. I am looking for my first digital piano. I found Casio CDP - S100 to be an interesting option for a beginner. What are your thoughts?
The sound of that one is really shit compared to Yamaha and roland. But you can always use a DAW for the sound engine.better go for a p45 as it is same as p125 except for the polyphony and inline outputs
Thanks, really helpful.
7:00 I don't know whether anyone else here has ever mentioned it - to my personal taste (and based on my very limited experience of trying them out), Yamahas generally seem to have very own kind of action, including one of their acoustic instruments, and that word you use - 'spongy' - aligns well with my impression of them (again, including acoustic ones).
It is true that Yamaha pianos have a very distinct touch. That is the case with most manufacturers. Every manufacturer has their own philosophy in terms of what the perfect piano tone and touch is. This leads to quite a big disparity in terms of the feel of the actions from manufacturer to manufacturer.
Very high quality content over here, good job!! 👍 👍 What stand were you using on the roland fp 10?
Thank you kindly! I believe the FP10 was setup on the matching KSCFP10 designer stand for this video.
question for anyone who's used both. I want to get one of these for a 5 year old so she can start learning on playground sessions. I've watched about 15 videos on each and some comparison videos too. The Roland has a heavier key action, I know my hands could adjust to it no problem. But, I'm not sure how it would be for a 5 year old. Would it maybe be better to go with the P125?
The action on the Yamaha is pretty heavy but in a good way. At least for me who had played keyboards, digital and acoustic. So this kind of piano would be pretty nice for a 5 year old.
The Casio PX-S1000 has a lighter action than both P125 and FP30 - and its smaller.
Maybe an interesting compromise
I don't think the Roland has a heavier key action. I don't love the Yamaha action. But I like Yamaha's quality and consistency and the Yamaha piano sounds.
Listening with Sony Bluetooth headphones on my computer, some of the Roland piano voices are extremely nice. I think Jeremy See said the Roland has a a synthesized escapement in the action. Again, I love your wonderful pianistic styling. There's one guy on RUclips who does a lot of piano reviews, but he's a rather poor piano player. I never get a feeling for what the instrument can really do. In contrast, when you demonstrate an instrument one can really appreciate the potential of the instrument under the hands of a very competent pianist.
Can you plug the FP10 into the computer to record MIDI?
Please reply :)
yes
Gustavo Buezas thanks dude
Dear Stu!
Could you please please 🙏 make a review of the Korg Liano?
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I will certainly add it to the list of potential video candidates for the future. With that said, with so many models out there, it is difficult to tackle them all. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
Hi. Great comparison and thanks for it! I'm almost decided on the FP 10, but ... How will the speakers sound if the instrument will be placed on a desk? Unfortunately I don't hace space to put it on correct keyboard stand. I can use home audio system of course, but I'd like to know it as well.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks! We're glad you enjoyed it. Obviously, the sound won't be as optimal compared to if it was mounted on a proper stand, but it will still be quite satisfying. I have a digital piano that I use for production purposes set up on my studio workspace desk and, personally, the slight fidelity loss doesn't bother me at all.
Listening on good headphones, the Yamaha convincingly beats the Roland for sound quality to my ears, especially on the Rhodes sound (which you pick out as superior on the Roland). I hear a very unauthentic attack to the Rhodes on the Roland, particularly if I compare it with the sound of my real 1971 Suitcase 73.
I agree. I don't like the Roland's Rhodes sound very much.
Just a simple question to be supersure about it, because i made a mistake in the past. Are they both "heavy-keys" pianos (the keys' weight is very close to a real piano one), aren't they?
yes they are both fully weighted keys like a grand piano!
Yamaha sound more bright and rich. And more "tasty" for me.
But the action is worse
@@mrdeen5532 Subjective, your honour!
The keyboard in the Roland seems to be quite noisy
you get that with every digital piano, however with headphones in you can't tell.
Thank you very much! This is exactly the kind of video I was looking for! A detailed comparison, with a real description of the differences between the two pianos, and understandable for the beginner I am! Could you please compare the ES-110 with Roland's FP-10? I've heard that the FP-10 is the best under $500, and the ES-110 is the best under $800, but is the $300 difference worth it? Will the FP-10 be frustrating after a few years of training?
Thank you very much, your videos are awesome!
Roland FP10 looks great in paper, but dissapoints me in the half pedal function, because is not continuos like FP30..., it is only 3 levels. What do you think about it?.
@CSI Hi friend, thanks for answer but the pedal itself is not the problem; is the continuous pedal recognition function in the FP10 internal implementation.
@@ferdearmas8732 I'm no expert but in just my humble opinion, we should not be really worried about that. I see both the FP10 and FP-30 as beginner instruments for piano learners, it's just that the FP-30 it's a bit better and feature packed. If somebody is an intermediate to advanced player then both the FP-10 and FP-30 are limiting instruments, he/she will outgrow them. Yes ok, the FP-10 is a bit more limiting with less polyphony and 3 step damper pedal, but not by so much. If you will really get into the advanced technical nuances of acoustic piano playing you'll outgrow any digital instrument at these prices
Last week went to 2 separate stores. Store A is a dealer for Yamaha & Casio. Store B has the Roland keyboards. After trying a few, came to the conclusion that Roland has the better deal.
Yamaha intentionally made their entry keyboard P-125 feel cheap so the advanced players will buy their higher up P-515 & Clavinova. The keys on the P-125 have a smooth surface which feels like cheap plastic. Even the 3-pedal foot pedal unit (sold separately) is made of plastic compared to the one for the P-515 made of brass. The sustain pedal that comes with the P-125 is flimsy but does the job.
In terms of sound, Roland has the Supernatural sound engine which is quite good. The low-end Yamaha P-125 tend to sound a bit artificial at times so they can push people into their higher end keyboards.
After playing on a grand piano, the keys on a Roland with a rough texture and action feel more like an acoustic from the FP-10 up to a FP-60. By the time you get to a FP-90 you start getting into more professional features.
Is this something a pure beginner should take into account too? Im getting my first (digital) piano and its a split between the roland FP10 and yamaha P-125. I tend to lean towards the Yamaha because of the sound variations and the app that comes with it. I really just wanna play stuff like Ill Vento D'oro and some other OST's i like haha
@@musashi-avi284
People who lean towards Classical music tend to prefer any keyboard that has an action similar to an acoustic piano (especially a grand piano) besides a realistic piano sound. I find that the action of a Yamaha is a bit lighter than a Roland. After a while of playing, it is easier to switch between a Roland and a Steinway because the action is similar.
If you are not getting into serious Classical music and don't switch between a keyboard & acoustic at all, the action may not as big of an issue down the road.
I got Roland FP-10 three years ago. I had it for 3-4 months and I replaced it with A88 mkII. Three months later, I got Roland FP-30X that I had for four months. Do you see a pattern developing? Yes, each and every time I replaced a Roland digital piano with (such a great) PHA-4 action because the keys developed annoying clicking noise (lots of RUclips videos about this problem). I did hope that it was just a problem with one implementation of this action, each and every time (till I smartened up).
Michael
Ps. I am going to rent a FP-10 just to check if I was imagining this clicking noise. I will definitely post my new findings in comments!
I am sorry to hear that you have experienced issues with the PHA4 action in the past. I am a bit surprised to hear that as the PHA4 action is typically extremely reliable. It is one of the actions with the lowest warranty claim rates that we carry.
@@MerriamPianos Perhaps it also depends on how sensitive digital piano users are to clicking noise of the action. I definitely am and so is my family (I mostly practice using headphones or play at very low volume). NWX was the quietest action I had, PHA50 was the second best in this respect. The worst was the action of ES110 that I returned the following day. ES120 or any Kawai action are almost equally problematic. I frankly do not care if a Kawai sales person tells me that acoustic piano actions are also loud and sometimes bouncy - I would not play them with my headphones on (unless it were a hybrid piano) and frankly I just want quiet action.
The problem with clicking noise of PHA-4 after some time is well known. I think that even Stu mentioned this issue when talking about PHA50 action and comparing it with PHA-4.
Anyway, I will test it again and I will record the noise of the action (I did it for all returned Roland pianos).
Michael
9:50 13:00
Revolutionary etude sounds right with the sustain down, so polyphony matters.
you have 88 keys in piano, so it doesnt make any problem unless you wont overlay few effects, wich still would not affect the sound much (perhaps it would not at all)
Is there a difference in how you access the sounds, does Yamaha have an app, Yamaha CFX OR CFIII. is there a difference between sampling and modeling? I am between Yamaha P515 and Roland s90 help me with a similar comparison
I owned a CLP 635 (with CFX sound)...
I switched to a P125 because I like the CFIII sounds waaay nicer imo. Love that clear, glassy tone. Its a more dynamic sample too.
@@jortepap Yes, some people prefer the older CFIII and C7 type of tone compared to Yamaha's revised CFX and C7X type of tone. Yamaha didn't want to be associated with just a bright sound and wanted it to be more suitable to primarily classical and jazz and less so pop. So, they changed the sound. They did make their CFX digital sound brighter than what's found in most of the acoustic versions, however. There is a bright piano and studio piano on the 515 that I think is based off of the older Yamaha sound.
I bought the full bundle for yamaha p125. Worth every penny idc.
Very nice! Happy playing and enjoy your P125! :)
Hi, I know yamaha arius is not at the same comparison level with roland fp10. However, should I only need the closer feel with accoustic piano and for practise only for kids, which one should I choose? Thank you..
I dont speak english, but it is interesting to listen to him about these keyboards)
Do we have option to use External speaker by using 3.5mm Jack in Yamaha P45B
Unfortunately, neither of these pianos have dedicated line-outs for hooking up external speakers. However, the headphone output can be used to connect to external amps or PA systems.
Hey, roland fp10 actually can turn on or off the speakers as it's said in the pdf reference manual. Anyways, very good comparison!
Thanks Arnau, really appreciate the tip on this! Yes, it was in an OS update that allows the very top F and F# keys to enable/disable this function. Really appreciate the comment. -Stu
The P125 also can turn off the speakers.
@@canadiansoul9401 Of course
Hey guyz i want to buy the fp 10 but actully i have a stranger amplifier and i want to connect the amplifier to fp10..
But the fp10 has only a headphone jack...
Plese tell me if i connect the piano via a 6.5 to 3.5 mm cable will the sound signal get lost or the quality will be maintained....
Plese reply...
Replies will be highly aprriciated by me
Are we hearing the original sound or through some kind of output system?
Thanks so much
You're welcome! Thanks for tuning in! :)
How does he get the sound to sound like a grand piano. Is he using an amplifier or external speaker. Is the sound coming from the inbuilt speakers
Excellent review!
Fp 10 Vs p45.
P125 It does not compare with it.
I think it's marketing for Roland . 😁
All people now that p125 better then fp10.
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hello how will I know how loud should it be when I'm using headphones?
Wich one is better ??
Which piano is easier to transpose?
Quick question, do you recommend the Roland Juno ds88 synthesizer? I would like to get advice from a professional. The money doesn't matter and I would like to upgrade form my dgx 660 to that digital piano.
Please reply.
THANK YOU.
if the Juno's feature set is right for you, sure, it rocks hard for its price
can I know everybody's personal opinion which is better and why because I am still confused with, what to get
Thanks!
tHANK YOU SO MUCH!aMAZING!!A little question))Im pianist and searching for a keyboards for play only piano!(maximal tender to natural) for play,create and records on PC my melodies...Not much money))So,choice-fp10,Korg B1,Kurzweil ka90,Privia s100(casio) or yamaha p105
...Maybe,you know another one))Pleaaaseeee,your recomendations)Priory-sound and naturals feeling +good polifony...Thank you so much!!!
Definitely fp10 I’ve tried a lot of those in stores and the Roland was far superior in the action to me and the simulated ivory keys are really good. I ended up buying the fp10 and I do. Not regret it
Wtf is this, you can use the spacebar.
Your videos are so useful. On youtube, I listenned to a piano piece called "le Moulin" by Yann Tiersen. The player had a Technics SX-P50. I loved the sound but this model must be old and out of stock. Do you know it ? What would be the alternative to this model ? I see the price would be around 300. thanks
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! I am not particular familiar with that model. It is a bit older and looks to be discontinued. With that said, the Roland FP10 and FP30X or Casio PXS1100 or PXS3100 might be good options that will give you a base tone and enough customization to achieve that kind of tonal profile. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you very much for your fast reply and detailed. I will check the models which may be above my budget, but sometimes it's worth to save more money to get good condtions to learn. Thanks again.
The keyboard action on the Roland is quite noticeably louder than the Yamaha
So what is better?
That comes down to subjectivity ultimately. Both pianos are very solid, but they offer something a bit different musically. For me, the FP10 has the edge because of its heavier, more authentic touch. :)
I am looking for an affordable keyboard as a present for my wife. She is a concert pianist and appreciates a fine instrument (e.g., Steinway or Bösendorfer), but for many reasons, we had to sell her grand piano a few years ago. I think she would enjoy playing a keyboard just for fun, but I don't want to spend $5k on a new professional piano keyboard. Would she be satisfied with this, or just feel like it's a toy?
Hi, excellent piano player...!, please somebody tell me in your preference order, taking in account the key action, finger to sound connection and more complex sound between: this Roland FP10, Korg D1, Kawai ES110 and Casio PX-S1000. Thanks!...
I would be interested in a recommendation / comparison between the Roland FP-10 and the Kawai ES110 also. I am looking for a good beginner’s piano and still haven’t fully decided between these 2.
Very tricky to order these. For piano experience, I'd personally put the Kawai first, then the FP10, then the Casio, and finally the Korg. One note on this 'list' - the only reason I put the FP10 below the ES110 would be the speaker size/quality, and the sample set. I happen to like the PHA-4 action better than what's on the ES110 personally...though it's a slight preference, not a drastic one. - stu
Thanks for answer Stu, and why did you prefer PHA-4 over RHC?, please give more details, cause, many people says that Roland key action is heavier and sluggish compared with Kawai actions, is your experience?, and what about FP30 vs FP10, is really the three level of pedal operation and poliphony an issue in FP10?. Did you really feel any big difference in key action, sound connection or big step in overall construction between FP30 and FP10?.
@@ferdearmas8732 There's definitely no difference in action between FP10 and FP30, and I don't find a construction quality difference either. Even though it's not written anywhere, I've done side-by-side comparison of the two on sound, and the FP30 is a more complex waveform...though I'm not sure I could tell the difference if it weren't side by side. I haven't found the PHA-4 action to be sluggish, but again that's just been my personal experience. The reason I prefer the PHA-4 over the RHC is that I find the RHC action to feel a bit too loose and the keys too bendable when playing more fast and aggressive passages...as in the lateral play and the accuracy isn't as good as the PHA-4 in those specific situations. Kawai seems to have resolved most of those in the RHC-II which is on the KDP110.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks Stu, and what about polyphony in FP10 for layer situations?, and what about the continuous pedal function in FP10?, many people are saying that this only have 3 levels and is not countinuos like FP30, are you agree?, is a real drawback?, i like the overall weight and compact design on the 10 over the 30.
Not exactly right, a fairer comparison would have been P45 Vs FP10. The P125 actually bumps up against the FP30.
FP10 is an FP30 with lesser speakers and less access to all of its sounds
Thank you one issue I found the p125 does not have midi and that is a problem for interface with desktop packages
There is MIDI via USB - not sure if this would help in your case.
@@cmggiacomo5300 HI Unfortunately the Yamaha manual states NO MIDI I found out after the post that in fact it means there are no MIDI IN OUT Ports. Since I use Bluetooth on my YAMAHA P35 that is a nuisance. Yamaha were late on the scene with MIDI, designed by Roland in conjunction with other major manufacturers, and made a mess of it. They misnamed the keys used to initiate it because they only had short keyboards, and still do call C4 C3 etc.. Their Bluetooth MIDI UDBT01 does not work on Microsoft - luckily Roland came to the rescue and I now use Roland WM-1 for iPad and the WM-1D USB interface for Microsoft. I have wasted enough money on Yamaha, who have a fascination with iPad, my next keyboard is going to be Roland probably FP30 or FP60. They have a better escapement action, an excellent sound engine and easy Android interfaces that can link to Microsoft along with straightforward MIDI interfaces.
Have you done a review of the Korg D1?
It is speaker less
Roland stopped making the FP10 and no longer sell them in the US. If you want one now, they're a minimum of $700USD used before shipping. The FP30 is also around $700USD. There's no longer a Roland in the FP10 price range. Bummer, huh?
I think you can still buy it at Costco as the FRP-1