Look Ma, No Leaf Springs! Is This Ford F-550 With Active Liquid Spring Suspension The Future?
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2022
- Look Ma, No Leaf Springs! Is This Ford F-550 With Active Liquid Spring Suspension The Future?
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We run 4 2019 F-550 Ambulances with this system. Liquid Springs is an absolute game changer on how comfortable and incredible handling it makes our ambulances ride. Truly the best combination of comfort and safety/stability you can get. Highly recommend!
Thank you for the feedback!
Does "Liquid Springs" offer a similar package for the F-450 Super Duty?
@@jackj5368 Yes. It's actually the identical system for F-450 and F-550 I am told.
I hope you're correct,@@srulylowy5238, but if so, I'm surprised the representative doesn't highlight that fact during his presentation. Thanks.
Yes, as long as you don't have to PAY for it, I'm sure it's great!!
I have this exact system from LiquidSpring on my 21 F550. I have talked with Carl many times and his willingness to answer my questions + guide me along my way on my dream overland rig build has been amazing. Carl & the entire LiquidSpring team understand the value of customer service. Can't wait to meet him in person at Overland Expo West in May.
Andre, Big Trucks, and Elvis... don't get much better than that!
Yes Andre this is a huge plus for the Fire And Rescue industry for ride comfort compared to the old air bag systems we used to use on ambulances
The technology is great we run a Ford F550 since 2016 with no issues
Andre, thanks for showing this ‘hidden gem’ tech!! After seeing the vid a couple times, liquid seems best for the high capacity uses. Needs space & capacity for the tanks and large pump/controller systems. Excellent for high payload / large rig setups as earlier commenters mention. Thanks again!!
Great Job, Andre! Always fun to watch TFL's offroad & towing adventures! And Congratulations on Tumbleweed Ranch! I'm stoked to see how the ranch will be transformed and used under the care of the TFL team. Keep up the amazing work!!
Thank you!
now that's an interesting suspension setup
Always bringing the best at TFL
Oh yea!
very interesting and the price of this system and when will it be available for ram chevy gmc. and now when a test drive in different places.
That truck has so many possibilities.
finally a decent description of the liquid springs system (the components, function, and installation). most of the marketing and info about this product is fluff that left me with the uneasy feeling it was a scam.
I want to drive it. I've driven other F550 for several years, and they ride rough unless you've got some weight in them.
I walked by this truck today and thought "Where's Andre? I bet he would be interested in this." Did you check out the E-Transit, too?
Dow Corning make silicone oil and it's half the thickness of water or 0.500 Dynes
The "dyne" is an obsolete unit of force (from the old CGS system), not a measure of density or viscosity or anything else that might be called "thickness" of a fluid. Presumably you meant dynamic viscosity in mPa·s or the CGS equivalent of "centipoise"... and yes, water has a dynamic viscosity about 1 mPa·s (or 1 centipoise) so 0.5 mPa·s would be half of that (or 0.5 centipoise).
Cool idea. I could see this being usable for offroad use on light trucks or jeeps but the price is quite high.
Or you could use it on heavy duty trucks since heavy duty f550’s are way better than weak light duty jeeps
Elvis in the background helllll yeahhhhh!!!!! SUSPICIOUS MINDS!!!!
Elvis 🕺 would want a Caddy! And not the new pos ones..
I lowkey want this on my GMT800 2500. maybe after I have completely got thru the truck and mechanically restore it!
I’d rather get the Acela Andrey featured in another video as the price of this F-550 would probably cost more (base truck, custom fabbed bed, & Elevation system)
What wheels are those? It would be awesome to get those for 8-lug.
Gas too pricey for your average houshold consumer now. Time to trade up!!
That liquid spring system is nice we run it and all of our ambulances, but if you want to put that in your own truck be prepared for some serious serious sticker shock. They range anywhere from $23-$27,000. i’m sorry but I don’t feel like paying Fire Dept, prices.
cool truck but with that same door actuator, thieves can break in within seconds LOL
Ram already have this on the 1500 Limited
More video like these. Please
Real world stuff
We plan to drive this truck very soon!
Bro if I get rich I’m getting a 550 that joint looks huge & massive
I want that for the rear of my f350
I'm wondering if this was an aircraft application.
_We're caught in a crowd, I can't walk out!_
Been looking into this system pretty seriously, I'm on the verge of buying it or something similar, carli makes a good suspension for a f450, but nothing for the f550, might have to assembly my own system. I want to be able to go through moab in my f550 though.
Carli's website shows no offerings for Ford's, Super Duty F-450.
So back to "Liquid Springs"...Does this company provide a suspension system for the F-450?
@@jackj5368 carli now offers f450 f550 suspension. Still leaning the liquid spring direction. Carli kind of did something dumb, they made active suspension, but it is not compatible with the f450 f550 rear end. The shittyest part of the vehicle that needs the most help. So things are progressing in the right direction, but nobody seems to be competitive with liquid spring except for kelderman, and I think that falls alittle short, except it is alot more reasonable
Thank you,@@townsendliving9750.
Interesting
Can I get that suspension for a F600?
F550 is gangster
What’s this truck go for all in $200k?
It's a neat system but it's over $10k for just the rear end. The pump is over $3k to replace. It works pretty well if you can afford it.
Much of the rear system cost is the conversion from leaf springs to control arms, and that cost would be the same if using coil springs or air springs. But yes, all of the parts (control arms for leaf replacement, struts and valves and secondary volumes for all spring positions, and the control system for the vehicle) are expensive.
@@brianb-p6586 gotta pay to play!
@litebrite, new tow rig?
Wow almost 20 thousand , I’ll stick air.
Will that fit f350
I worry about the electronic control unit being covered in mud and water and/or ice. Will it affect the product.
Motorhomes. I have one. Next one will have this.
How much is this truck pick-up in Philippine price?
How do I order one
Save that wire from under chapel st. In case we wanna sonic the hedge hog under another estate.
I found it hard to concentrate while listening to "Suspicious Minds" in the background of the video! XD
Anybody know what front fenders are on this truck?
Bumpers, Rims, and Fenders I believe are all from Buckstop Truckware
Booyah 👊🏽😁🇺🇸
Will they, or do they, have a system tailored for F150 Lightning?
No.
Isn't that almost the same as Lexus hydraulic suspension on some LX models?
No, Toyota (Lexus) doesn't used compression of liquid as a spring in any vehicle. They do have some inter-linked systems, but the springs are still steel or gas (air or nitrogen).
Why is my boo down there rolling up the wire. Make a kid do it
👍
So hydraulics
Compressible liquid?
I would rather have any level lift
Superduty UPDATE !
front coils Since 2005
Over 15k for the system and then 20 plus hours of labor for installation!!! Ya thats a little much!!!
Agreed! Overpriced!
Well over my budget....
We already knew that, Cat.
This doesn’t look great for off-road use. You have to have suspension travel both up and down… Articulation is mandatory when off-roading. These don’t seem like they would provide any significant amount of the articulation required to be useful off-road.
You can see just some of the suspension travel as they demonstrate changing the ride height. There's no reason to expect any less travel than the stock suspension, and travel is likely better than with leaf springs. It might worth asking LiquidSpring for confirmation of suspension travel.
Finally my wifi reset
Elvis Presley would have loved to have a F550 and write a song about it ☺️.
I wouldn’t call it the suspension of the future. Lexus Land Cruisers have had hydraulic suspension (AHC) since the 100 series.
No, they don't use the hydraulic fluid as the springs.
@@brianb-p6586 The AHC suspension on the 100 series does in fact perform much of the spring function as well as the shock function. The LX470 has much thinner front torsion bars and rear springs than the conventional suspension Land Cruiser as the fluid system is used to make up the difference. The beauty of that system is it is a DIY job to convert to conventional suspension.
@@KesselRunLX Yes, the Lexus Active Height Control system largely replaces the steel springs, and could replace them entirely if desired. It uses hydraulic fluid to transmit force, but the hydraulic fluid is not the spring - the spring is the gas in the gas chambers (there is at least one gas chamber per shock/strut/cylinder). The amount of fluid between the suspension and the gas is changed to adjust the ride height, but the springing is always done by the gas. The gas chambers are essentially the same as the "spheres" in older European suspension systems; in contrast, the LiquidSpring secondary volumes are like the gas chambers but with no gas, depending on only compressibility of the liquid. Compressing gas as a spring and compressing the hydraulic fluid as a spring is critical difference (and not much of an advantage, if any).
A full AHC system with roll control is more sophisticated than LiquidSpring's system, which just keeps each wheel's suspension separate and controls only ride height plus switching to stiffer springing for transients.
@@brianb-p6586 thanks for the awesome explanation! I learn something new every day. I didn’t fully understand the role of the globes/spheres until now.
Incorrect, Luke Flunker.
not something I would want to own in 10 years when it breaks, I will stick with normal leaf springs
In your world with your needs leaf spring work. These are for a specific market.
leaf springs can and will last 100+ years.
Work truck show doing its damndest to get TFL copyright strike 😂
Focus harder, Jacob.
That truck is 150K.
Liquids are incompressible (physics) so I suspect there is an expansion chamber with a spring (gas or metal) for the hydraulic fluid to allow suspension compliance.
He mentioned using liquid silicone, which is compressible
Yes, they are using a compressible silicone liquid.
Looked up the compressibility of silicone fluid. It takes 50 MPa (7250 psi) to compress silicone 5%. It seems like the suspension compliance would be the connecting hoses, the tires and the control arms 🤨
@@rik999 I was curious about the term “compressible liquid” also. Maybe there’s some more info out on the web on how such a system really works. I grew that the term seems to be somewhat of a misnomer on the surface.
Ideal liquids are incompressible, but real liquids vary in compressibility. They use a silicone oil because it is relatively compressible as liquids go.
Sounds like Toyota ahc
But it's different, because AHC uses nitrogen gas in chambers as the springs, and does not require the hydraulic fluid to compress at all, while this LiquidSpring system uses compression of the hydraulic fluid as the spring.
think mercedes abc
I'm 😂 at all the ignorance in these comments. RUclips never fails to deliver.
...as if Mike Smith's past RUclips comments are any different.
9300 bucks? Ummm mm better do more than ride nice.....................
Move on to your next RUclips video offering, Will, and be happy with bumpy rides.
@@jackj5368 they make a product for 500 bucks that works better..... but you should just buy the expensive ones since ya just don't know......
$500? Wishful thinking (for those who are unable to afford it). But, if it makes you feel better, go with that,@@willrector9716.
@@jackj5368 hahaha I actually own the 500 dollar one, not wishfull at all if you actually knew a thing or two... makes an HD or dump truck or whatever ride like a half ton until you load it up.... I'm definitely not going to tell you what it is either since you have been such an ass......
@@willrector9716 EXACTLY which product is better for $500??? I am in the market and I can't find it!!!
F-150 on steroids. I would like to see this in action.
Except that it doesn't share any parts with an F-150.
This is so stupid! Just something else to break. They didn’t even center the rear wheel in the wheel well. Then it just automatically reverts to normal after 15mph... what the hell is that? So you don’t actually have any real control. How many people break 15mph going off-road? So you’re supposed to reset it every time you hit 16?... Not to mention it probably costs well over $100k all in.
Shh, alanj.
Since you CLEARLY don't know what you are talking about, why would you demonstrate it by commenting???
They just released new video… Truck is $170k
Y u send me your construction company tax returns. I wanna see my company's tax return
That's so embarrassing that large of a company and that's all the money you made. No wonder u don't wanna show your face I wouldn't either if that's all I made last yr
should have a working model instead of a carpet on the wall