I'm still rocking a 4790 w/1660Ti and I just don't feel the need for a new CPU/MB/RAM combo. So ya, this video was more meaningful to me than another Ryzen video.
@@wolfshanze5980 4790 with 1060. I want a reason to upgrade to ryzen and get a new graphics card. but if i need to wait for the 4000 series then i will
@@seanthenetworkguy8024 Depends on what you want to do but the 3000 series is actually super compelling for more professional workloads. Saying that, even for gaming and streaming they're good parts. I'm looking into getting a 3700X for my rig as I seldom use AVX unless a game or program mandates it. This for me is less important though as my PC gets used mostly for non-AVX video rendering and encoding with OpenCL acceleration, so a Zen chip in my workloads ends up being within margin of error of a 9900. I'll be honest though. I kinda miss the 1650 v1 that I have now dedicated to Server duty for gaming. that thing was a monster of a 6-core for its age!
@@HosakaBlood I lost the lotto on my 4790k, can barely keep it at boost clock on all cores. Got 2400MHz Trident X DDR3 ram with it though. Whole thing is being repurposed in a week as a house media server.
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still using this cpu, oc'd it to 4.4ghz with a gtx 1080.
@@AliYassinToma A bit faster than 4790K which do 4x 4.2GHz full load @stock. But the 4790K runs cooler @4.4 OC @all core. Can generally do about 200 Mhz more OC @same voltages. The The Devils Canyon is the good silicon picks of the Haswell lineup.
@@Wushu-viking the 4790k stock turbos to 4.4ghz which is sick actually .. Made this CPU last a while too I oced mine to 4.9 but didn't like the thermals so I stuck with 4.8
4670K here at 4.4GHz @ 1.251 volts, with a Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH Edition, also around 60/70 degrees. Doing pretty well with the GTX 1070. Although, some newer games would definitely benefit from more cores though.
@@mafs13 also a 1070 Ftw here. And yeah, spending that extra 80 Euro in the past for the i7 would have been good. But it's my first pc I ever did so I am still pretty happy
@@DJStrangeAl Same here, first build ever. Coming from a Core 2 Duo Acer pc it was quite the upgrade. Might upgrade to a Ryzen 3000 in the future though.
There are 25 4470K based machines still running in my lab - they're all stock, air-cooled (not the nasty Intel supplied cooler), and I can confirm that they all have very different overclocking and heat issues (we do get our students to play with overclocking when doing benchmarking practicals). GPU wise most of these machines run GTX 970s (Upgraded from the GTX 780s they were delivered with), 2 of them run GTX 1080s and another 2 of them run original Titan Xs (these four machines run out VR suite (2 HTC Vives, 2 Oculus Rifts).
I waited and bought the i7 3770K because it had PCI-e 3.0 at the time and was a 22nm shrink. Even now today it still running strong at 4.7GHz but it can run at 5GHz once delided and the boards BCLK raised a bit. Also don't be afraid to raise the Vcore past 1.450v if needed. If the temps are in check. i just needed a better cooler. With these 22nm CPU's there some skillz needed to push these chips. I have it on a Z77 ASRock Extreme 4 that has a 8phase Vcore intersil VRM. I've bought all my CPU's from Micro Center and they have always been great overclocking chips. Just last year i bought the 8700K for $280 and the z370 Aorus Gaming 7 to go with it for $150. and that chip can run 5.3Ghz at 1.390v. That's better than silicon lottery's top 5%. I was definitely surprised and wondered why anyone would return such a good chip. Its not even delided. I have it at 1.250v at 5Ghz on air. and couldn't be happier with that chip. The MC i go to has crazy deals on open-box or damaged box hardware. I know not everyone has the option to hit up a Micro Center but, if you get a chance, i would go and pick up some good deals.
Great video,I left my 4770k at 4.4ghz for years, it used to get a little hit hot at times but it was always stable. I could get it above 4.5 but the temps were ridiculous. I've still got it in a second rig, I bet it would benefit from a delid
Indeed, can't get mine any higher than 4,5 for 24/7 use (on water, delided). Among other things, I use it semi daily for heavy floating point operations. So that's quite demanding. Most braggers with 4.8 would crash it in minutes in such use cases.
@@robertvandeneijk1284 Exactly. "Stable" is a very strained definition for most internet oc braggers. I was running my 4790k @4.8ghz after delidding, but i needed ridiculously high 1.37v and LLC to get it rock stable. I do work on this machine and sometimes i game and stream with software encoding. Both are workloads, that needs to be 100% stable and are taxing the cpu much more than normal gaming benchmarks. I could do most benchmarks even for hours with ~1.3v. So i settled for 4.7ghz @1.3v with full LLC. Still a lot of voltage, but it should survive a few years untill Ryzen 3000 or 4000 will replace it. And let us be honest, 100 or 200 mhz don't change anything in speed.
My friend's 4770k goes to 4.8ghz and my 4790k will only do 4.7ghz, both at 1.35v. What's odd though is at 4.6ghz, the 4770k needs 1.32v and my 4790k only needs 1.285v (so very little more than stock). I don't know if you'd call the 4770k a better bin or the 4790k? Either way, the 4790k is not clearly a better chip in terms of raw frequency. It does have some instruction sets enabled that the 4770k didn't (VT-d instriuctions) but those are barely used by non-business software anyway. The real advantage to the 4790k is that, put with a budget air cooler, it will run 4.4ghz all core turbo all day, out of the box. Turn on MCE or whatever it's called on your board, along with XMP and that's it. Some of the worst 4770k wouldn't get to 4.4ghz at all without stupid voltage.
@@Hawlkeye-e9p some of the lower quality 4770k should never have made it as 4770k. They should have been lower end locked parts. If you are paying for top of the range chips you ought to expect a top bin.
This video made me cinebench r15 my computer, which made me realize that for some reason my computer has lost its OC settings, and I only scored 828 on a 6700K. Gonna have to look into what happened to the OC, but I happen to be waiting on some new parts for the PC at the moment, including a new hard drive, so it'll have to wait until I'm done, as I plan on doing a full rebuild of the computer and reinstall any way. Edit: Speaking of 4770k, my old PC has a 4770k, but the AIO on it broke (and didn't indicate that it had broken), so it looked like something was severely wrong with the PC, as the PC reported normal temperatures, but would constantly shut down claiming overheating. I've been considering rebuilding that thing to see if it still works or not
I have a 4770 non K. I saw that Tech Deals vid you were talking about and almost rushed out the door to get a new system. Glad to see it's actually only a ~10 FPS difference and negligible compared to the 60+ FPS difference Tech Deals was showing.
man I really lost the lottery on my good old 4770k. I can barely get it to 4.3Ghz with a 280mm AIO. And it is such an oven at that frequency that it needs noctua industrial fans @3000rpm to sustain that on all cores at around 80°C. (before delidding and replacing the TIM with liquid metal, anything beyond 4.1Ghz was impossible to cool). It did me well for many years though. Still, can't wait for my shiny new 3900x to finally arrive with all them juicy cores!
Haswell is still plenty good enough for gaming on 4c 8t cpus as you show here. This is really helpfull TJ for all those who think they 'need' to upgrade or are into price perf builds. Tons of people getting out of 4th gen stuff and deals are to be had. I used the Xeon 1265L v3 on my SFF 1150 build and found that they are so much cooler ,45w cpu in my case, and perf is same as i7s. Not OCed obviously. Had no issues up to a 1070 level gpu personally and at 1440p.
I like going back to old builds. Last one before I upgraded to my current setup at around november was an i7-4790k with EVGA SuperSC 16gb @ 2400MHz CL11
Still rocking an i7 4790K @ 4.92 GHz from 2014 (with 2400 MHz CL11 RAM). I have 1.287 Vcore set in bios (voltmeter reads 1.30 Vcore while gaming, 1.318 Vcore under AVX benchmarks). It's aircooled and never goes over 65 C. I got it delided, but it only took 4-8 C off the load temps. I'll be sticking with this for a few more years.
I can only speak for Intel CPUs but a Socket 775 system such as the 790i Ultra was fast enough for 1440p and even 4K. The bottleneck is almost _always the GPU_ . The exceptions are with high refresh rates, G-SYNC etc. but for 60fps gaming the CPU really hasn't been the issue for years...I ran (2)980Ti's in SLI in 4K/60 on a quad core without hyper-threading with few issues. Upgrading to an 8-core/16 thread using the exact same GPUs only made a difference for CPU intensive games so I largely didn't notice a difference in game. As long as the CPU clocks are at 4Ghz+ and you don't need more than 60fps (majority) an "old" CPU will usually work just fine.
@AmpEdition heh no way dont have time for anything not for 2nd job xD it's from 12am to 24pm well 14pm to 22pm but i have to travel like 1:3h to 2h to work
I7-4770 (non k) w/ rx 580 8g. Here and still rocking since launch of Haswell & first build too (for now, tell something eventually breaks. My computer is acting up but still running)
Try getting your hands on a GTX 1070 Katana, it is insanely cool looking and yeah, it is fairly long, but extremely thin at the same time. And it definitely deserves more attention then it got back in the day.
I used this processor since 2013 and it was amazing. I just replaced it with a 9900k but honestly i can’t tell the difference. I had mine oc to 4.9 ghz and it was perfect. I had issues with it within the past year, but I turned down the oc and it works perfect again. Amazing cpu! I also used a 1440p 144hz monitor and I could use the full potential of that in some games!
I am still running my i7 4770k in a coolermaster HAF 932 case. It has been running everyday for the last 5 years over clocked to 4.5ghz on a XSPC custom water loop. Next month I am building a new rig and going Ryzen. I want to say that 4770k was 300ish dollars when I bought it.
Still on i7 4770K with basic frequency, 16gb DDR3 1866Mhz HyperX Dual, 2x SSD on SATA3 on ASUS H81M-D, ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Ti and Ayrus 500W, still to be beast on Windows 11 Pro 23H2. 👑❤️💯
4790K with a 2080 ti here, running at 1440 on the asus swift pg297q monitor looks and always runs perfectly smooth, I will eventually update my MB and CPU but not today :)
You make the kinda videos I wanted to make. Yesterday's top-end tech today... way more interesting than a new video card producing 6% more performance than the one it replaces (Super, right?)
Still using my 4770k with absolutely no complaints. Replaced the stock TIM with liquid metal, got an NH-D15, and overclocked it to 4.6 GHz at 1.27 V. Great temps and performance!
We're not allowed to say "American" anymore because it's not all inclusive. They say we don't own the whole 2 continents. I don't make the rules I just have to live with them. I'm unsure if it is racist since your Canadian. Peace out my American brother.
Still got mine, slightly oc'd to 4.3ghz with 16gb RAM, 500gb ssd and an rtx2080 super. Performs well on my ultrawide 120hz 3440x1440p acer predator monitor, which makes it GPU bound so generally less load on the cpu.
My I7-4790K (Ocked by about 2% ONLY..... for now... when times come that it will require more i'll add more OC) is solid as a rock and still kickin in hard as hell. So if you have one, you are ok for other 10 years at least..
i snagged a 4770k recently to revive an old pc mine from the depths of my closet. I've gotta admit, I was and am, pleasantly surprised how good this cpu still is. I've been having some fun OC'ing it, and it actually holds up pretty good for how old it is. Back in the 90's, my first ever pc that I built with high end parts, was completely obsolete after 3 years. It went from being godlike, to trash picker in no time. This is not the case for 4770k.
I'm still running a delided 4770k with 16gb of 2400 cl 10 ram. I got unlucky though...my cpu can only reach 4.3ghz at reasonable temps with a Hyper 212 evo. Still runs great with an overclocked gtx 1070
It could take a decade if you're lucky with your chip. I think you should buy a new CPU this gen or maybe a Ryzen 4000, because the i5 2500k is getting really old.
IPC improvement between Sandy and Kaby is about 40 to 45%, depends on the application though. The Good Old Gamer did a video where he compares all i7s .
Yeah tech deals also did a video on it there's a much bigger difference between the 2600k and 7700k ofc coffee lake has another 25% boost sometimes the 9700k was twice as fast as a 2600k depending on the game.
@@illuminatieyes2351 Coffee Lake was faster because it has double the cores and was clocked 500 MHz higher. IPC wise they both are exactly the same, but their are small improvements in some areas that are insignificant though, just on paper.
Okay, so Im that Guy WHO paired a 2080ti with my 4770k @4.4ghz. I play games in 1440p 144hz and do some editing in resolve. I just ordered the x570 Tuf with g.skill flare X 3200 and a 3900x. But I don’t have a problem to wait until next year or so to see what happen with ddr5 and so on. My question are more if it would be a good difference in the performance if I upgrade now. I would not like to upgrade and don’t be like wow!
Still rocking a 4770k with a 980 ti and I think it does really well. Especially for VR. The only thing I plan to upgrade soon is my headset since its an hp wmr headset that has a ton of issues cuz it wasnt built well in terms of quality.
Heck yeah, theme builds and also the smallest case you can do I know there are some really beautify mini ITX builds out there man go for it!. This could be a new branch off the channel for you!
I myself am running a 1080ti with a 3770. The cpu was bought when I didn't really know much about PC. I am now wanting to upgrade to either a 3900x or 9900k. I wasnt even thinking about the 9900k but with the recent price cut on 9900k it's really on my radar. I do a bunch of editing and I just wanted to go for the 3900x but a 9900k for 405pounds seems like a steal to me. What do you think
Cool idea on building your own case! I loved my m-itx board, until it died. Got an ATX replacement, bigger ...yes, but it does run very well! Have fun with the build!!!!
my 4790k is at 4.8ghz 1.32volts at mid 70s on stock paste with a 240 AIO in push pull ram is 1866mhz cas 9. paired with a 1070 still runs strong. Z97 asus board helps.
LMFAO! 2:32 let it play to 2:33 then click at 2:32 again and repeat haha!! the little noise he makes LOL!! and how he shakes the little power supply is funny to me xD Eh...eh...eh....eh....eh...eh...eh....eh hahaha
I think u should go as small as possible, I've created 3D CAD files for a 4.5 L case, with the limitation that it only supports up to 170 mm graphics cards, RTX 2070 mini will fit. Love your videos my dood, always something different and always well produced 👌
I run a 4690k with a 1070, at 1440p. It seems to be working great. Less stress on the CPU. I even got to run OBS and it worked. It wasn't stuttering at all. I thought it would.
I'm using a i7 4770k still and a PG278qr monitor, 1440p 165hz, i'm sometimes having my frames drop from 165 to 145s in BF4 with lowest settings, and League of legends from semi high settings of 130-165s. It's harder to run LoL instead of BF4, go figure. My video card is a reference 1080 ti. 16gb of DDR3 1600mhz RAM.
What are the odds that not 10 minutes ago I ordered a mitx mobo to pair with my old 4770k and started 3D printing a case for it all...I like the way you think.
Glad to see you using a 4770(k) for a build, I have a 4770 lying around that I was planning on tossing in my son's rig to replace his Phenom II x6 1055t. All should pair well with the 32GB of 1866 and the RX580 8GB I got for him (he's only 4, almost 5) to play Forza Horizon 3 and 4, Minecraft, and Roblox. Also had a 3770 with board that I ended up tossing in a little Lian Li PC-Q07 so my mom could have something to use and it doubles as a media/Plex server.
Yeah the 4770k chips usually stop at 4.4-4.5ish (on air). I used to have one, it sucks because I can do 4.7 @1.36 on my 3770k lol. Was set to 1.39 but v droop
Most of my 4770 (no k) and 980ti build was bought used. Using it on a 1440p144hz monitor and I'm very happy. Looking at getting a free sync card though
Tech Deals was just showing CPU performance. Where the bottleneck is, is why he used the 2080ti. Love the videos Timmy but its kinda douchey calling people copycats and putting on video.
agreed. the method tech deals uses is the best way to compare CPU's which is what he was doing. he wasnt comparing what someone might build or might have; which is also a fair test to do, but one is not better than the other, and there was no reason for the disparaging comment about his methodology.
@@iredfive The problem with only comparing CPUs or only comparing GPUs is you tend not to show how a complete system will run at a very common resolution such as 1440p. If you're buying a newer GPU for an older CPU, and you're not running it at 1080p, you might be left out and just guessing at what performance looks like on your config before you put it together. Timmy Joe was doing a service to the community here, it just would be good to see it in a sort of configuration that more people are likely to run (ATX motherboard without temperature limits, decent airflow ATX case, etc.)
I saw that Tech Deals video before I came here. It's very misleading. He was showing CPU performance as it relates to bottlenecking your GPU. Jumping from a Haswell processor to a modern CPU won't net me 60+ FPS because I don't have a 2080ti. It's going to net me ~10 FPS because I'm running a 980ti. That's significant and would have been useful for Tech Deals to include in the video.
I got one of these recently it was delidded and I traded my 4670k and some cash for it. Its in my main rig now :D It's at 4,7ghz at 1.28 volts on air. Hyper 212 evo. I've been told it can do 4,9 and maybe 5,0 so I might give it a try. in games this cpu stays under 60c
That's the CPU that I have in my main PC, an i7-4770k cpu oc to 4.4 ghz with 16 gb ddr3 team xtream 2400 mhz c10 with a PNY Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card. Still runs any new 2018 or 2019 game at 1080p very high to ultra with at least 70 to 80 fps.
I noticed when i ran a stress test with mine ( simular deal to yours, old as and thermal paste was from the dinosaur era ) the temps were really high, this was factory speeds at 3.5ghz if i recall, the core temps were crazy one i had at 50c and another at 90c and then its hit 99c and back down to 70c, it was truly wild, i since swapped the fans and reused my old h60 or h90 that i had on my amd 8350 and the temps have stabilized thankfully with no delidding, when i reran the stress test it wouldn't go above 70c or 80c at peak so that was certainly an improvement
I run an i5 4690K on a mITX ASUS Impact board with an R9-290X and play everything at 1440p with no issues. I havent even thought about upgrading until seeing the new Ryzen reviews.
Super cool motherboard! Recently I picked up an older system from a friend for $100; ASUS z87 Dual Deluxe, incredible neat featured mobo, i7 4770k, case, and psu. Actually ended up taking the place for my desktop in place of my 7700k build.
The Guy in this video is talking about minimal improvements over the previous generation... I stll have today an i7 4770k @4.5 GHz paired with RTX 2080 and my colleague got an i7 7700K with GTX 1080. In Wolf Youngblood I got the CPU maxed out ranging between 90-100% utilisation while my colleague got his CPU running barely on 50% (remember: the same amount of cores and threads, just faster memory and interconnect). The funny thing is that - in 1080p 'm getting well above 120 fps on it with some very minor stuttering but happening seldom.
My 7700k is still kicking pretty good paired with a 2070 super. See no reason to upgrade soon. My old build with a i5 3340 with a 970 was still able to play games at decent FPS at 1080. CPUs nowadays don't need upgrading as often. Can usually wait and upgrade GPU first for gaming at least. Wish Intel would make it so mobos wold be able to upgrade more tho. They seem to always have a new chipset so you need to spend on a mobo when upgrading. Miss the old socket 775 days when they could support a crap ton of different CPUs.
A lot of people can get a gtx 970 or even a gtx 980 ti for cheap now, which looks like its about a RX 5700 performance. I'm on air and mine's only really stable at 4.2ghz and I don't really want to fiddle with it. My old 4690k was at 4.5ghz for a long time on this mobo. 4790k was too expensive and not worth it. Also if you still have this CPU socket and had an i3 or i5, the cheapest best bang for the buck upgrade looks like an E3-1231V3 on ebay for $70 you get very close performance. You can't OC it as easily, but even stock its a huge improvement over the i5/i3.
Zotac 1080 TI , I7 4770k at 4.3 ghz and 16 gb of 1866 memory running 2560 x 1600p and all triple A games all run over 70fps minimum. No need to upgrade yet so kudos to the I7 😁
Thank you for not doing another Ryzen video!
I'm still rocking a 4790 w/1660Ti and I just don't feel the need for a new CPU/MB/RAM combo. So ya, this video was more meaningful to me than another Ryzen video.
@@wolfshanze5980 4790 with 1060. I want a reason to upgrade to ryzen and get a new graphics card. but if i need to wait for the 4000 series then i will
@@seanthenetworkguy8024 Depends on what you want to do but the 3000 series is actually super compelling for more professional workloads. Saying that, even for gaming and streaming they're good parts. I'm looking into getting a 3700X for my rig as I seldom use AVX unless a game or program mandates it. This for me is less important though as my PC gets used mostly for non-AVX video rendering and encoding with OpenCL acceleration, so a Zen chip in my workloads ends up being within margin of error of a 9900. I'll be honest though. I kinda miss the 1650 v1 that I have now dedicated to Server duty for gaming. that thing was a monster of a 6-core for its age!
Nothings wrong with ryzen... 😐
@@ravin6771 Agreed. As someone with a R5 2600 I can agree. It's a good architecure.
LOL - DDR3 2666 CAS 11 - now that is some fast ram, puts my DDR3-1600 CAS 7 to shame.
@mister.T Jr Ya, I got an i7-4790 w/DDR3-1600 and I got zero complaints about my system's performance.
Not far off from mine which is ddr3 2400 mhz cas 10-12-12-31
I managed to get my Corsair Doms ddr3 2800mhz to 3.1
@@wolfshanze5980 haswell was a nice chip even today i used to have 4790k 4.8ghz 1.325v 16gb hyperX beast 2400
@@HosakaBlood I lost the lotto on my 4790k, can barely keep it at boost clock on all cores.
Got 2400MHz Trident X DDR3 ram with it though. Whole thing is being repurposed in a week as a house media server.
still using this cpu, oc'd it to 4.4ghz with a gtx 1080.
So u basically made it a 4790k
@@AliYassinToma A bit faster than 4790K which do 4x 4.2GHz full load @stock. But the 4790K runs cooler @4.4 OC @all core. Can generally do about 200 Mhz more OC @same voltages. The The Devils Canyon is the good silicon picks of the Haswell lineup.
Sick man, stick with it until it doesn't suit your needs!
@@Wushu-viking the 4790k stock turbos to 4.4ghz which is sick actually .. Made this CPU last a while too I oced mine to 4.9 but didn't like the thermals so I stuck with 4.8
what voltage you using for 4.4ghz?
My 4770k was only able to get to 4.2ghz at 1.2volts.
TechDeals methodical and nerdy....heck yeah! Two of the things I love about his channel.
8:08 1.5GHz, wow! That's faster than my Pentium 4!
5.0 ghz
haha that was a funny mixup
@@tahsin8296 I think he meant the gain he got was 1.5ghz, wasn't clear though
@@oboe8444 he ment to say 1.5 volt
My Pentium 4 HT is 3GHz :P
I'm still using that processor for ages :) and it's good enough to play recent games, 16GB ram and a msi 1080 :)
I got similar results except my board was 110 lol
Before watching yes its enough for at least 5 more years
Mine is 100% in both cod games whilst my GPU sits around 40% :( I think it's showing its age now
@@CSmithyPx runs warzone just fine though getting better framerates than consoles
Just get a v56 pulse it has a nano pcb, put a cheap waterblock on it done.
I5 4690k fixed 4.4 GHz @ 1.27 volt with a Scythe Mugen 4 keeping it cool at around 60 to 70 degrees even in the hot German summer
I can't get mine above 4.2@1.3v :( I don't really know why, temps are looking good. Maybe it's my Motherboard.
@@jackwiedemann what MB do you have? I have a Z97 Pro Gamer from Asus
4670K here at 4.4GHz @ 1.251 volts, with a Scythe Mugen 5 PCGH Edition, also around 60/70 degrees. Doing pretty well with the GTX 1070. Although, some newer games would definitely benefit from more cores though.
@@mafs13 also a 1070 Ftw here. And yeah, spending that extra 80 Euro in the past for the i7 would have been good. But it's my first pc I ever did so I am still pretty happy
@@DJStrangeAl Same here, first build ever. Coming from a Core 2 Duo Acer pc it was quite the upgrade. Might upgrade to a Ryzen 3000 in the future though.
There are 25 4470K based machines still running in my lab - they're all stock, air-cooled (not the nasty Intel supplied cooler), and I can confirm that they all have very different overclocking and heat issues (we do get our students to play with overclocking when doing benchmarking practicals).
GPU wise most of these machines run GTX 970s (Upgraded from the GTX 780s they were delivered with), 2 of them run GTX 1080s and another 2 of them run original Titan Xs (these four machines run out VR suite (2 HTC Vives, 2 Oculus Rifts).
I waited and bought the i7 3770K because it had PCI-e 3.0 at the time and was a 22nm shrink. Even now today it still running strong at 4.7GHz but it can run at 5GHz once delided and the boards BCLK raised a bit. Also don't be afraid to raise the Vcore past 1.450v if needed. If the temps are in check. i just needed a better cooler. With these 22nm CPU's there some skillz needed to push these chips. I have it on a Z77 ASRock Extreme 4 that has a 8phase Vcore intersil VRM. I've bought all my CPU's from Micro Center and they have always been great overclocking chips. Just last year i bought the 8700K for $280 and the z370 Aorus Gaming 7 to go with it for $150. and that chip can run 5.3Ghz at 1.390v. That's better than silicon lottery's top 5%. I was definitely surprised and wondered why anyone would return such a good chip. Its not even delided. I have it at 1.250v at 5Ghz on air. and couldn't be happier with that chip. The MC i go to has crazy deals on open-box or damaged box hardware. I know not everyone has the option to hit up a Micro Center but, if you get a chance, i would go and pick up some good deals.
Great video,I left my 4770k at 4.4ghz for years, it used to get a little hit hot at times but it was always stable. I could get it above 4.5 but the temps were ridiculous. I've still got it in a second rig, I bet it would benefit from a delid
Same at 4.4 with 1.275v 4.5 is unstable :(
i have a maximus vii impact mini itx board with a 4790k and i use an rx 580 and so far i am happy with it.
very few 4790k's can do 4.8 ghz. So I don't know how you expected this chip to easily do 4.8 ghz
I had 4790k, and the highest it could go was 4.7 ghz
Indeed, can't get mine any higher than 4,5 for 24/7 use (on water, delided).
Among other things, I use it semi daily for heavy floating point operations. So that's quite demanding. Most braggers with 4.8 would crash it in minutes in such use cases.
@@robertvandeneijk1284 Exactly.
"Stable" is a very strained definition for most internet oc braggers.
I was running my 4790k @4.8ghz after delidding, but i needed ridiculously high 1.37v and LLC to get it rock stable.
I do work on this machine and sometimes i game and stream with software encoding. Both are workloads, that needs to be 100% stable and are taxing the cpu much more than normal gaming benchmarks.
I could do most benchmarks even for hours with ~1.3v.
So i settled for 4.7ghz @1.3v with full LLC.
Still a lot of voltage, but it should survive a few years untill Ryzen 3000 or 4000 will replace it.
And let us be honest, 100 or 200 mhz don't change anything in speed.
My friend's 4770k goes to 4.8ghz and my 4790k will only do 4.7ghz, both at 1.35v. What's odd though is at 4.6ghz, the 4770k needs 1.32v and my 4790k only needs 1.285v (so very little more than stock). I don't know if you'd call the 4770k a better bin or the 4790k? Either way, the 4790k is not clearly a better chip in terms of raw frequency. It does have some instruction sets enabled that the 4770k didn't (VT-d instriuctions) but those are barely used by non-business software anyway. The real advantage to the 4790k is that, put with a budget air cooler, it will run 4.4ghz all core turbo all day, out of the box. Turn on MCE or whatever it's called on your board, along with XMP and that's it. Some of the worst 4770k wouldn't get to 4.4ghz at all without stupid voltage.
@@adamsaint2890 my 4770k tops at 4.2 @ 1.3 volts. Delided and on water. Its crap
@@Hawlkeye-e9p some of the lower quality 4770k should never have made it as 4770k. They should have been lower end locked parts. If you are paying for top of the range chips you ought to expect a top bin.
This video made me cinebench r15 my computer, which made me realize that for some reason my computer has lost its OC settings, and I only scored 828 on a 6700K.
Gonna have to look into what happened to the OC, but I happen to be waiting on some new parts for the PC at the moment, including a new hard drive, so it'll have to wait until I'm done, as I plan on doing a full rebuild of the computer and reinstall any way.
Edit: Speaking of 4770k, my old PC has a 4770k, but the AIO on it broke (and didn't indicate that it had broken), so it looked like something was severely wrong with the PC, as the PC reported normal temperatures, but would constantly shut down claiming overheating.
I've been considering rebuilding that thing to see if it still works or not
I have a i7 2600k @4.7 ghz still runs fine around 820 in cinebench r 15 got it with a sabertooth p67 and 8 gb 1600 mhz ddr3 for 100 euros
Nice! What VCore you running on that?
@@egonpaxMy all core turbo is 4.8 with single up to 5.2Ghz with the 2600k. Mine runs at 1.5v...
@@RealHumanDave kinda a lot, how hot does it get woth what cooler?
Still using i7 4790K, and im happy with it
I have a 4770 non K. I saw that Tech Deals vid you were talking about and almost rushed out the door to get a new system.
Glad to see it's actually only a ~10 FPS difference and negligible compared to the 60+ FPS difference Tech Deals was showing.
rock solid with my 4770k @4.2ghz with rtx 2060
man I really lost the lottery on my good old 4770k. I can barely get it to 4.3Ghz with a 280mm AIO. And it is such an oven at that frequency that it needs noctua industrial fans @3000rpm to sustain that on all cores at around 80°C. (before delidding and replacing the TIM with liquid metal, anything beyond 4.1Ghz was impossible to cool).
It did me well for many years though. Still, can't wait for my shiny new 3900x to finally arrive with all them juicy cores!
Haswell is still plenty good enough for gaming on 4c 8t cpus as you show here. This is really helpfull TJ for all those who think they 'need' to upgrade or are into price perf builds. Tons of people getting out of 4th gen stuff and deals are to be had. I used the Xeon 1265L v3 on my SFF 1150 build and found that they are so much cooler ,45w cpu in my case, and perf is same as i7s. Not OCed obviously. Had no issues up to a 1070 level gpu personally and at 1440p.
I like going back to old builds. Last one before I upgraded to my current setup at around november was an i7-4790k with EVGA SuperSC 16gb @ 2400MHz CL11
That's still a beast.
i use a 4790K delided'd with Noctua L9x65 ITXz97 setup and that cooler works good. holds a small overclock
Awesome video I am still running 4770k with Vega 64, mine won't overclock past 4.2Ghz
Rocking the 4790k at 4.8 still going strong
mfw my i7-4770k would only go to 4.4ghz even delidded with 1.3 voltage. These chips really do have a wide variety of binnings.
Still rocking an i7 4790K @ 4.92 GHz from 2014 (with 2400 MHz CL11 RAM). I have 1.287 Vcore set in bios (voltmeter reads 1.30 Vcore while gaming, 1.318 Vcore under AVX benchmarks). It's aircooled and never goes over 65 C. I got it delided, but it only took 4-8 C off the load temps. I'll be sticking with this for a few more years.
I can only speak for Intel CPUs but a Socket 775 system such as the 790i Ultra was fast enough for 1440p and even 4K. The bottleneck is almost _always the GPU_ . The exceptions are with high refresh rates, G-SYNC etc. but for 60fps gaming the CPU really hasn't been the issue for years...I ran (2)980Ti's in SLI in 4K/60 on a quad core without hyper-threading with few issues. Upgrading to an 8-core/16 thread using the exact same GPUs only made a difference for CPU intensive games so I largely didn't notice a difference in game. As long as the CPU clocks are at 4Ghz+ and you don't need more than 60fps (majority) an "old" CPU will usually work just fine.
MUMOD BIOS still have my 790 ultra with my qx9650.
Still rocking my I5 3450, yep didnt sell it yet :D
yeah no, no money for upgrade tho xD
my paycheck is 280-300$
@AmpEdition heh no way dont have time for anything not for 2nd job xD
it's from 12am to 24pm
well 14pm to 22pm but i have to travel like 1:3h to 2h to work
@AmpEdition mee too, Serbia is fucking garbage country m8 :)
I7-4770 (non k) w/ rx 580 8g. Here and still rocking since launch of Haswell & first build too
(for now, tell something eventually breaks. My computer is acting up but still running)
Try getting your hands on a GTX 1070 Katana, it is insanely cool looking and yeah, it is fairly long, but extremely thin at the same time. And it definitely deserves more attention then it got back in the day.
Truly a collectors card at heart.
I used this processor since 2013 and it was amazing. I just replaced it with a 9900k but honestly i can’t tell the difference. I had mine oc to 4.9 ghz and it was perfect. I had issues with it within the past year, but I turned down the oc and it works perfect again. Amazing cpu! I also used a 1440p 144hz monitor and I could use the full potential of that in some games!
TheLyricistHD what gpu
love your " how does **** do in 2019" videos! keep em coming!!
Immediately recognized the 980 Ti. Used the same model for my friend's budget. The G1 Windforce is an absolute beast even in 2019.
I am still running my i7 4770k in a coolermaster HAF 932 case. It has been running everyday for the last 5 years over clocked to 4.5ghz on a XSPC custom water loop. Next month I am building a new rig and going Ryzen. I want to say that 4770k was 300ish dollars when I bought it.
Still on i7 4770K with basic frequency, 16gb DDR3 1866Mhz HyperX Dual, 2x SSD on SATA3 on ASUS H81M-D, ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Ti and Ayrus 500W, still to be beast on Windows 11 Pro 23H2. 👑❤️💯
I guess I’m super unlucky, I can only get to 4.4 ghz at 1.31 volts
4790K with a 2080 ti here, running at 1440 on the asus swift pg297q monitor looks and always runs perfectly smooth, I will eventually update my MB and CPU but not today :)
4770k wow fancy - still rocking my 2500k at 4.2ghz , seems fine in everything i play but keep looking at the R5 2600x or something, maybe, one day lol
The 2600 would be a great upgrade right now, with prices sometimes under $130
You make the kinda videos I wanted to make. Yesterday's top-end tech today... way more interesting than a new video card producing 6% more performance than the one it replaces (Super, right?)
Still using my 4770k with absolutely no complaints. Replaced the stock TIM with liquid metal, got an NH-D15, and overclocked it to 4.6 GHz at 1.27 V. Great temps and performance!
I have my 4770k overclocked to 4.3ghz on a asus h97 plus mother board and it runs perfectly.
I thought you could only overclock on z series motherboards but not h or b
9:45 SEE JUST HOW LOW THE TEMPS CAN GO WITH TIMMY FKN JOE!!!!!!!
lol I'm watching this video basically on the same rig! i7-4770 Non-K 16 GB DDR3, RX 480 8G. Running strong!!
Me too. But 570 4gb. Our cards are hold back the cpu big time.
Using two 1080ti's with my 4770k...
you can count the ddr3-2666 dual kits that exist on one hand vary rare and sweet find timmy!
We're not allowed to say "American" anymore because it's not all inclusive. They say we don't own the whole 2 continents. I don't make the rules I just have to live with them. I'm unsure if it is racist since your Canadian. Peace out my American brother.
Still got mine, slightly oc'd to 4.3ghz with 16gb RAM, 500gb ssd and an rtx2080 super. Performs well on my ultrawide 120hz 3440x1440p acer predator monitor, which makes it GPU bound so generally less load on the cpu.
I've been rocking an 4770k for a while now. real good chip i have it at 4.2
My I7-4790K (Ocked by about 2% ONLY..... for now... when times come that it will require more i'll add more OC) is solid as a rock and still kickin in hard as hell. So if you have one, you are ok for other 10 years at least..
i snagged a 4770k recently to revive an old pc mine from the depths of my closet. I've gotta admit, I was and am, pleasantly surprised how good this cpu still is. I've been having some fun OC'ing it, and it actually holds up pretty good for how old it is. Back in the 90's, my first ever pc that I built with high end parts, was completely obsolete after 3 years. It went from being godlike, to trash picker in no time. This is not the case for 4770k.
I'm still running a delided 4770k with 16gb of 2400 cl 10 ram. I got unlucky though...my cpu can only reach 4.3ghz at reasonable temps with a Hyper 212 evo. Still runs great with an overclocked gtx 1070
i'm still running an i5-2500K @4.2ghz, i ain't changing until either motherboard or processor fails, and when it does, a ryzen will replace it
It could take a decade if you're lucky with your chip. I think you should buy a new CPU this gen or maybe a Ryzen 4000, because the i5 2500k is getting really old.
lmao, ive changed my 2500k like 3 years ago for a 6700k (4.9ghz) . In pubg performance lift was near 100% with a 1070
IPC improvement between Sandy and Kaby is about 40 to 45%, depends on the application though.
The Good Old Gamer did a video where he compares all i7s .
Yeah tech deals also did a video on it there's a much bigger difference between the 2600k and 7700k ofc coffee lake has another 25% boost sometimes the 9700k was twice as fast as a 2600k depending on the game.
@@illuminatieyes2351 Coffee Lake was faster because it has double the cores and was clocked 500 MHz higher. IPC wise they both are exactly the same, but their are small improvements in some areas that are insignificant though, just on paper.
4790k with 1.15 MV and 4.7 GHz Not delidded. Runs smooth
Okay, so Im that Guy WHO paired a 2080ti with my 4770k @4.4ghz. I play games in 1440p 144hz and do some editing in resolve. I just ordered the x570 Tuf with g.skill flare X 3200 and a 3900x. But I don’t have a problem to wait until next year or so to see what happen with ddr5 and so on. My question are more if it would be a good difference in the performance if I upgrade now. I would not like to upgrade and don’t be like wow!
Looking forward to see how you design a case and what you make. I love the mods and creative vids. Keep it up!
The title of this video is the only time that TIM will be described as "hard as concrete. Lol. Keep up the great work, buddy!
still using i7 4790k 4.4, 32gb ddr3 2133mhz, gigabyte z97x, 1tb nvme mp10 and 1080ti in 2020...still perform good in 1440p game and work
Still rocking a 4770k with a 980 ti and I think it does really well. Especially for VR. The only thing I plan to upgrade soon is my headset since its an hp wmr headset that has a ton of issues cuz it wasnt built well in terms of quality.
damn my 4770k is unstable at anything past 4.0
Heck yeah, theme builds and also the smallest case you can do I know there are some really beautify mini ITX builds out there man go for it!. This could be a new branch off the channel for you!
I myself am running a 1080ti with a 3770. The cpu was bought when I didn't really know much about PC. I am now wanting to upgrade to either a 3900x or 9900k. I wasnt even thinking about the 9900k but with the recent price cut on 9900k it's really on my radar. I do a bunch of editing and I just wanted to go for the 3900x but a 9900k for 405pounds seems like a steal to me. What do you think
The binning on the 4770K was ass. Mine is still running strong but max OC I ever achieved stable was 4.2.
same here 4.2GHz :(
Same at 4.4 :(
my main machine is still running the i7 4770k. Built it in late 2013 and still havent replaced the thermal paste :/
Me neither, 2014... and second computer 2010, still running cool.
Same and its running without trouble since i build it.
Papa Joe. Im running 2600k at 4.7 with around 1.39v-1.408v 2133mhz ram 10 11 12 timings :P r15 cinebench score 822cb. R20 single 356 pts cpu 1777 pts
I'm still using mine, OCd to 4.1Ghz and it stays at cozy temps. Just bought a RTX 2070 Super lets see how it plays with my i7 4770K :)
Did anyone ever tell you, that you look almost exactly like Ruttledge Wood + you guys share almost the same humor. Good video as always.
Cool idea on building your own case! I loved my m-itx board, until it died. Got an ATX replacement, bigger ...yes, but it does run very well! Have fun with the build!!!!
my 4790k is at 4.8ghz 1.32volts at mid 70s on stock paste with a 240 AIO in push pull ram is 1866mhz cas 9. paired with a 1070 still runs strong. Z97 asus board helps.
@@larine4459 yeah 16gb 4x4 gb
LMFAO! 2:32 let it play to 2:33 then click at 2:32 again and repeat haha!! the little noise he makes LOL!! and how he shakes the little power supply is funny to me xD
Eh...eh...eh....eh....eh...eh...eh....eh hahaha
I think u should go as small as possible, I've created 3D CAD files for a 4.5 L case, with the limitation that it only supports up to 170 mm graphics cards, RTX 2070 mini will fit. Love your videos my dood, always something different and always well produced 👌
I run a 4690k with a 1070, at 1440p. It seems to be working great. Less stress on the CPU. I even got to run OBS and it worked. It wasn't stuttering at all. I thought it would.
I laughed so hard seeing the thumbnail in my feed 😂
I'm using a i7 4770k still and a PG278qr monitor, 1440p 165hz, i'm sometimes having my frames drop from 165 to 145s in BF4 with lowest settings, and League of legends from semi high settings of 130-165s. It's harder to run LoL instead of BF4, go figure. My video card is a reference 1080 ti. 16gb of DDR3 1600mhz RAM.
What are the odds that not 10 minutes ago I ordered a mitx mobo to pair with my old 4770k and started 3D printing a case for it all...I like the way you think.
I will be doing some 3d printing as well :)
It hurt when he said he was slightly disappointed with 4.7 GHZ. I completely lost the silicone lottery on my 4770k and mine wont go past 4.2GHZ D:
Glad to see you using a 4770(k) for a build, I have a 4770 lying around that I was planning on tossing in my son's rig to replace his Phenom II x6 1055t. All should pair well with the 32GB of 1866 and the RX580 8GB I got for him (he's only 4, almost 5) to play Forza Horizon 3 and 4, Minecraft, and Roblox.
Also had a 3770 with board that I ended up tossing in a little Lian Li PC-Q07 so my mom could have something to use and it doubles as a media/Plex server.
Yeah the 4770k chips usually stop at 4.4-4.5ish (on air). I used to have one, it sucks because I can do 4.7 @1.36 on my 3770k lol.
Was set to 1.39 but v droop
I can do 4.6 GHz with 1.32 volt on my 4770k. But I run it at 4.5 GHz because I can reduce the voltage to 1.22.
Team Xtreem and their Dark Pro are good choices. Those models have Samsung B-Die.
I'm using this cpu in 2019 @ 4.2ghz. Pumped to see something new about it. I bought it for $100 used about a year ago.
Most of my 4770 (no k) and 980ti build was bought used. Using it on a 1440p144hz monitor and I'm very happy. Looking at getting a free sync card though
I have the 4770 and it's still working fine with a 770 GPU
One of the best intro on RUclips
Tech Deals was just showing CPU performance. Where the bottleneck is, is why he used the 2080ti. Love the videos Timmy but its kinda douchey calling people copycats and putting on video.
agreed. the method tech deals uses is the best way to compare CPU's which is what he was doing. he wasnt comparing what someone might build or might have; which is also a fair test to do, but one is not better than the other, and there was no reason for the disparaging comment about his methodology.
@@iredfive The problem with only comparing CPUs or only comparing GPUs is you tend not to show how a complete system will run at a very common resolution such as 1440p. If you're buying a newer GPU for an older CPU, and you're not running it at 1080p, you might be left out and just guessing at what performance looks like on your config before you put it together. Timmy Joe was doing a service to the community here, it just would be good to see it in a sort of configuration that more people are likely to run (ATX motherboard without temperature limits, decent airflow ATX case, etc.)
I saw that Tech Deals video before I came here. It's very misleading. He was showing CPU performance as it relates to bottlenecking your GPU.
Jumping from a Haswell processor to a modern CPU won't net me 60+ FPS because I don't have a 2080ti. It's going to net me ~10 FPS because I'm running a 980ti.
That's significant and would have been useful for Tech Deals to include in the video.
I got one of these recently it was delidded and I traded my 4670k and some cash for it.
Its in my main rig now :D
It's at 4,7ghz at 1.28 volts on air. Hyper 212 evo. I've been told it can do 4,9 and maybe 5,0 so I might give it a try.
in games this cpu stays under 60c
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
That's the CPU that I have in my main PC, an i7-4770k cpu oc to 4.4 ghz with 16 gb ddr3 team xtream 2400 mhz c10 with a PNY Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card. Still runs any new 2018 or 2019 game at 1080p very high to ultra with at least 70 to 80 fps.
Wow, at first glance I could swear that you are cell shaded! lol. New subscriber keep it up.
I noticed when i ran a stress test with mine ( simular deal to yours, old as and thermal paste was from the dinosaur era ) the temps were really high, this was factory speeds at 3.5ghz if i recall, the core temps were crazy one i had at 50c and another at 90c and then its hit 99c and back down to 70c, it was truly wild, i since swapped the fans and reused my old h60 or h90 that i had on my amd 8350 and the temps have stabilized thankfully with no delidding, when i reran the stress test it wouldn't go above 70c or 80c at peak so that was certainly an improvement
I run an i5 4690K on a mITX ASUS Impact board with an R9-290X and play everything at 1440p with no issues. I havent even thought about upgrading until seeing the new Ryzen reviews.
Super cool motherboard! Recently I picked up an older system from a friend for $100; ASUS z87 Dual Deluxe, incredible neat featured mobo, i7 4770k, case, and psu. Actually ended up taking the place for my desktop in place of my 7700k build.
The Guy in this video is talking about minimal improvements over the previous generation... I stll have today an i7 4770k @4.5 GHz paired with RTX 2080 and my colleague got an i7 7700K with GTX 1080. In Wolf Youngblood I got the CPU maxed out ranging between 90-100% utilisation while my colleague got his CPU running barely on 50% (remember: the same amount of cores and threads, just faster memory and interconnect). The funny thing is that - in 1080p 'm getting well above 120 fps on it with some very minor stuttering but happening seldom.
You could probably drop temps on that motherboard by replacing the paste on the chipset too. It might help with the voltage issue.
My 7700k is still kicking pretty good paired with a 2070 super. See no reason to upgrade soon. My old build with a i5 3340 with a 970 was still able to play games at decent FPS at 1080. CPUs nowadays don't need upgrading as often. Can usually wait and upgrade GPU first for gaming at least. Wish Intel would make it so mobos wold be able to upgrade more tho. They seem to always have a new chipset so you need to spend on a mobo when upgrading. Miss the old socket 775 days when they could support a crap ton of different CPUs.
intels tim is for "longevity" not performance
HAHAHAH
A lot of people can get a gtx 970 or even a gtx 980 ti for cheap now, which looks like its about a RX 5700 performance. I'm on air and mine's only really stable at 4.2ghz and I don't really want to fiddle with it. My old 4690k was at 4.5ghz for a long time on this mobo. 4790k was too expensive and not worth it. Also if you still have this CPU socket and had an i3 or i5, the cheapest best bang for the buck upgrade looks like an E3-1231V3 on ebay for $70 you get very close performance. You can't OC it as easily, but even stock its a huge improvement over the i5/i3.
Love Your videos! :)
4770k @4.4ghz here. Still works fine even if it's getting old 😂
Zotac 1080 TI , I7 4770k at 4.3 ghz and 16 gb of 1866 memory running 2560 x 1600p and all triple A games all run over 70fps minimum. No need to upgrade yet so kudos to the I7 😁
my 4770k can do only 4.2Ghz :-(
Krisu Kris that silicon lottery. Lol