Why I love my SSD - Windows 7 boot + loading 27 applications in about 1 minute.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Dell XPS M1330
Intel Core 2 Duo CPU at 2.5Ghz
4GB DDR2 RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Intel X25-M 80GB SSD
27 applications booting up via Windows Startup folder
Loads
Faster, lighter, more efficient and silent. Amazing.
Did a YT search on Win 7 32 bit and SSD and wound up here. Great video.. your computer is just throwing the programs around. Very nice low key but informed presentation.. five stars.
"solid state disks"
Sounds awesome.
That is insanely fast, and I have to agree with some of your other comments, this is a great argument for SSD drives.
I have a very similar setup, though on a desktop. Dell, 2.8 GHz CPU, 4 GB RAM, and.a 120gb SSD. I installed it last night and have been very impressed with the Windows load time. I crashed last night (me, not the computer) after loading XP and then loading the Windows 7 upgrade, so I haven't had time yet to test it like you did here, but man am I excited after seeing your video.
After ages of wondering why i had problems even loading tabs, minimizing, dragging windows, and odd hiccups, freezes, and stuttering, I can now confidently blame my HDD. After upgrading to a SSD, all my problems are gone. I suspected it might've been my CPU and/or RAM but both are rarely ever utilized past 50%. This experience also explains why my HDD+light are always going.
My new laptop boots in one minute....but I couldn't open all those programs on top of that in one minute....
impressive.
Thanks, man :). I appreciate the positive feedback.
The load times on your system are impressive. On my system with a HDD I load up to windows in about 52-55 seconds. The workaround is to simply turn on my PC once when I get up and put it on sleep mode, after that point I can start to work immediately after a click of the mouse :o)...
I love SSDs as well! My work has been upgrading the 7 year old Dell desktops running Pentium 4 CPUs with 30GB OCZ SSDs and even those have stupid fast startup speeds with Windows 7 32 bit. Can't wait to scrape together the cash to build my own desktop with the OS on a dedicated SSD.
Slick and clean demo and nice voice bro
holy shit
Just bought a corsair force 3 120gb SSD and the performance boost is incredible.
I just installed a 120 GB SDD for my Windows 8 OS and loaded a bunch of applications onto it.
It was the best 90 bucks I ever spent.
Damn, I'm missing out on SSD's. So over my computer taking 5 minutes just to get to login screen. Thanks for the video.
To be fair, it is definitely possible for a new, clean, unbloated installation of Windows 7 on a HDD to boot in under 20 seconds. Boot times will get slower over time, if you are uncareful about what you install and let your installation get bloated, which is why you are seeing 2.5min.
However, the people quoting boot times on a HDD are only quoting Windows 7 boot times. One you tell your computer to do anything else besides 1 task (i.e. boot AND open an app), a mechanical HDD gets crushed.
OHHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOODDDDD! That is ridiculous fast!
I just installed kingston ssd windows boots no lie in about 6 seconds. Best component by far to upgrade. Games load at least two times faster. It's the best thing to upgrade if you want to speed up your pc
Yes, you are correct. You will have to put in additional effort to manage your SSD's storage capacity.
The solution to this is to just install the games you are most likely to play, and uninstall them when you're done.
It just like having music on your smartphone. You may own 200GB+ of music in your MP3 collection. But you load only the 32GB of music you are most likely to use, to accomodate the storage capacity limitations of your smartphone.
wow, that's pretty smooth start
It's called AllCPUMeter, as a Windows gadget.
You can find it by just Google searching for the term "AllCPUMeter"
@TheEquinox2011
If you are asking whether the storage device (SSD / HDD) is being accessed while the "Starting Windows" animation is playing... yes, absolutely.
The animation will only play once. But the slower the storage device, the longer you will see the final "frame" of that animation. An SSD runs through the Windows animation in about 17sec. A fast HDD with clean boot takes about 30sec to do the same, and will still chug along after it reaches Windows desktop because of low IOPS.
Thanks, this is actually what I wanted to see, how would an SSD perform on an aged windows installation, all the reviews and comparisons I find are from fresh installs and that is useless information for me, I know SSDs are fast but I just want to know how well they perform on an aged system filled with apps and clunked with startup processes and temporal files / system junk everywhere.
On my personal rig I can install up to about 130 or more programs and that include heavy load software like After Effects and 3ds Max and when my installation is about 1 year old boot times become slow as hell as well as application launch...
I'm about to upgrade to an SSD soon for my OS drive and If this was achieved with "old" hardware I cant imagine how fast it would perform on more recent hardware.
FYI, the Weather Channel desktop gadget is far more accurate than the one already loaded. I used it for a long time, then found the Weather Channel one, it has better features as well...
That was the best analogy i've ever seen about HD and SSD. Can i put it in my blog?
Whenever i want to convince my friends to buy ssd(s) , i bring em here
love that OG Droid!
@DanZombieGilman Nice! Glad you got something useful out of the video. Buying the first SSD is the hard part. Once you have an SSD, buying additional SSDs for every one of your computers becomes a little easier :)
@hanspotato22 I'm with you. I think he could actually land jobs with his voice. I think this was the most practical SSD demo I've seen.
Just to add my 2Cents. MAC's are not impervious to virus's. This is a common misconception. There was a recent one that was pretty widespread (Name escapes me at the moment). The biggest reason why Mac's don't get infected is because of the number of viruses written to attack Macs is comparatively small. While on the other hand the number written for Windows is immense. However with the increasing popularity of Mac's, more and more virus's are being written. Nice Video BTW.
all the different parts do different things, RAM would make the computer not slow down when you have lots of applications up, this would make them open faster. this is really the only way to get this kind of performance boost.
@a1r9a83 The one in this particular example is an Intel X25-M G2 80GB drive. That model has been replaced by the Intel 320-series SSDs.
These days, the Intel X25-M G2 isn't the best-of-the-best SSD. However, it is still a very solid performer, and a very reliable drive.
This video helped convinced me to get my first SSD :)
@kent1146 ,thanks for you reply and advice. I had brought a single Crucial 128GB SSD . Happy with it for now.
@werkis2 I also never had problems with x32 apps on x64 OSes. Except this one program I need for work is a 32-bit *kernel-level* application (uses a device driver to mount a virtual device). And 32-bit drivers do not work in x64.
That is why I ran Windows 7 32-bit when this video was made. Since then, the company that writes that software released an x64-bit version, so I am now running Windows 7 64-bit w/8GB of RAM.
@tibosee My XPS M1330 was also a 3.5 year old machine, at the time the video was made. Yes, it is a very capable laptop that can do pretty much anything that 99% of people need a laptop to do. But it's nothing spectacular or crazy about it.
@TheAtreidesHawk The Windows 7 installation started off on a mechanical disk, and was then cloned / imaged over (Acronis True Image) to an SSD some time in mid 2010 (9-12 months ago from this message post). After cloning over to an SSD, I configured Windows to operate on an SSD (disable Disk Defrag, enable TRIM).
Even anti-virus. My god. Anti-virus cripples my PC's loadtimes, no matter what I use. I'll get one of these in the future, but only when I figure out if something as little as 16 to 32GB is all I need or if 128 to 256GB is the way to go. My PC will be used for video editing and rendering, having no less than 6 internal HDDs at any given time. An SSD to handle booting Windows 7 and other necessary apps looks like it's worth it. Thanks for the demonstration video.
@CrASYmUZIk SSDs are all smooth user experience. Especially speed while multitasking.
You know how sometimes your computer sits there, waiting for the mechanical hard drive to thrash around while it tries to load some data? That NEVER happens with an SSD. Everything you click just instantly "pops" up and loads. It makes your computer REALLY enjoyable to use.
@danteslight
1) It's a 3.5-year old work computer. Yes, it is an old rig.
2) My job requires me to run software (driver-level applications) that is only compatible with 32-bit OS'es. Native support for 32-bit apps is far more important than getting access to that last 0.5GB of RAM.
that made me smile, thats what everyone want.OMG i am shocked u have DDR2 4GB,and core 2 duo/
Thanks for the great explanation and testing
@ht448 Yes, you will get great speeds. You are absolutely correct. Having an SSD (for OS, applications, games) + HDD (for bulk storage of music, photos, videos, porn, etc) is the correct way to do it.
Actually, you can insert the SD card in to a USB2.0 converter. If your BIOS allows for booting from USB devices then make sure you use the free prep tool on MS TechNet to prepare the SD card, then load an ISO image of Windows on to it.
FYI - All of the IDE series hard drives before SATA had a max data rate of about 33Mb/sec and USB 2.0 has a max of about 35-40 Mb/sec. Also, since XP there have been "lite" versions of Windows for running your own copy on public computers for security purposes
never thought of that. Great idea. Thanks..
No way, they are much more affordable nowadays. Just think of how slow this laptop would be without it? SSDs make your 5yr old laptop feel new again.
Yes it will generally speaking. The problem with HD if you have power saving on the spin-up time is quite noticeable. The SSD's today are remarkably cheap compared to 2 years ago. If you check newegg and compare it to amazon you will see a big difference. I would go all SSD and keep your HD for full backups. I use Acronis TrueImage and it works quite well as saved me tremendous downtime.
Now this makes me want to get a SSD.
the bigger the ssd the faster data transfer is because there are more memory cell to write/read from which means better value for money.
@kylebeakman
It doesn't mean that those can't be used - you can create ramdisk within this unused area with proper software and put all your temporary/cache files there.
Yes. Anything with a load time (OS, applications, and games) should go on the SSD.
Bulk media (music, photos, videos, movies, porn, etc) does not have a load time, and should go on inexpensive bulk hard disk drive storage, like an external USB hard drive.
@shairaptor i just mean its not meant to be a storage for all your photos and movies, its just for your most important programs, so they load faster. So 128gb are way enough
Awesome video! You just talked me in to buying that ''SS" thing
SSD's are dam impressive. You also have to remember that the XPS M1330 doesn't have Sata 6Gbps . I think i'll be upgrading my M1330 soon XD I just ordered an SSD for my desktop why do I get the feeling this is about to becoming an expensive hobby XD
thats a great test. very informative and helpful. btw just a question, how much pagefile did you (or windows) create on your SSD? i'm sure 4gb physical ram isn't gonna be enough for 27 applications for sure.
another question, is your ssd a sata 2 or sata 3?
thanks, once again great video.
Now I really really want an SSD!!!
Your processor will surely be hotter because it's not gonna wait for the SSD like it does for the HDD
And this is from a quite dated PC. Put an SSD in a i5 or i7 based system and watch it truely fly. My Windows Surface 3 only has an Intel Atom processor, but with its SSD, it can boot to Windows 10 in less than 15 seconds.
Braid. Bioshock. Borderlands. Nice.
lol the old chrome icon
well: IMHO, as a owner of a regular pc , the philosophical aspect of this issue is the kind of urge , felt as a necessity to gain a benefit for evryone one of us , through a bunch of a few seconds, which should put each of us in a hurry to keep it calm
Let ' s rest on the preceding era of some years ago , please
Best Regards
I muuuuuuuuuustt HAVE IT! Spent $1000 on a new pc and got a regular HDD, regret it after reading some and watching this vid.
I think it's fairer to say that an SSD upgrade is more likely to give you a greater performance boost than a CPU upgrade.
Spending $200 on a CPU upgrade makes sense if you are in the rare 1% of users that mostly use your computer for very specific CPU-bottlenecked tasks (i.e. CPU-based video encoding). Everyone else will get much better "bang-for-your-buck" by putting that $200 towards an SSD instead.
Easy test: If you aren't absolutely sure if you are in that 1%, then you aren't in that 1%
I think you just sold me on buying my first SSD.
I was expecting it to be much faster on boot. The SSD MacBook air reboots to desktop in about 10 seconds, that includes the shutdown time.
Hey, anyone else remember back in the day how trying to open too many things straight off of a boot would lock the system?
This is amazing.
My main browser that I personally use is Google Chrome.
I have Mozilla Firefox and Microsoft Internet Explorer on my taskbar because part of my job requires browser compatibility testing. So I keep all 3 browsers easily accessible on my work laptop for that purpose.
Yes, you can have both SSD + mechanical HDD in a single desktop PC.
The smart thing to do is to use your relatively small-capacity SSD for anything with a load time (OS, applications, games).
All of your bulk media storage (documents, photos, videos, porn, etc) should go on cheap bulk mechanical HDD storage, where performance doesn't matter. A 4GB 720p BluRay rip movie will play equally well on a fast SSD or a slow 5400rpm HDD. So keep that kind of bulk media content on cheap storage.
I feel very bad for every single human that does not have an SSD in their PC.
Wow thats amazing for an old laptop o_o
@Maxsimka Camtasia Studio 7. It is a desktop recording application.
Or to put it another way, what the HDD people are saying is:
"Hey! My relatively current PC with a mechanical HDD does one task (boots an OS) in 17 seconds, about the same amount of time as your 4-year old Core 2 Duo laptop with an SSD takes to do the same!"
The HDD people actually help me prove my point as to why a 120GB SSD for $99 ($300 at the time I made this video) is the single best bang-for-your-buck computer upgrade you can make to improve system performance.
@aednichols The Apple-style volume indicator is an app called 3RVX from a guy named Matthew Malensk. If you Google "3RVX", you should find Matt's web page as the first link, and download it from there.
@xPyroxx The word application has been in use in computers long before "Apps" became the cool thing to say.
Nice demonstration....
@sebabhz 1) Are you sure you are booting your OS off of your SSD, and not your HDD? 2) Disable startup apps by running msconfig. If your system is loading a lot of bloatware junk, it will be slow to boot regardless of whether you are running an HDD or SSD.
@benjarni1100 You have a lot of options. If you want to keep it simple, get an Intel 310-series SSD in whatever capacity you can afford. Intel SSDs are supremely reliable, and fast where it matters (Random Read speeds)
Hey! Thank you very much for your answer!
I was a skeptic myself - as to whether it was worth the money - now I have 2 of them (64GB) and contemplating getting a 128GB. I cannot imagine going back to HDDs, other than data drives and backup drives.
IF you can afford it... get one ... or two or three.
@theultimatekoopa2
This is my work computer. It isn't like my home desktop computer, which I can reformat and rebuild in 1.5 hours. My work laptop literally takes 14 hours to rebuild and reconfigure.
As long as my work laptop is stable and operational, I see no reason to rebuild it. Unlike my gaming desktop, I don't really care about squeezing every bit of performance out of my work laptop, as long as it does its job.
From the start of the windows 7 logo it takes about 45 seconds for my HDD to boot into Win7. Its not that rare, i've had the same install since Win7 Launch.
I'm actually getting my SSD tomorrow so i'm excited to see how quickly windows 7 launches then!
For those of you who have SATA II motherboards - here is what I found. I bought a pci raid controller so that I could have the full speed of a SATA III (6 g/s). Well the card was not reliable so I went to the native RAID controller and ran the crystal benchmark. Long story short see my next post.
Old C: vs new C: (SSD).
@msethisuwan Thank you for the comments. I let Windows manage the pagefile size... which on a 4GB machine will result in a 6GB pagefile. And the bootup of 27 applications actually fits within the 4GB of physical RAM (since there werent any files or data actually loaded, just the idle applications).
This video was made on a Dell XPS M1330 (SATA2) laptop running an Intel G2 80GB SSD (SATA2)
@trignite I agree. I intentionally handicapped myself. I intentionally started the timer to include the computer POST, and intentionally ran this test on a 3.5-year old laptop, to show that a computer with an SSD still boots faster than machines with mechanical HDDs.
It's basically like playing basketball against a blindfolded, drunk Michael Jordan that can only use 1 arm and 1 leg, and still watching how badly he can kick your butt.
A Ferrari F355 is a spectacular car. You can talk all day about what a beautiful piece of engineering, manufacturing, and design the F355 is. But if there isn't enough trunk space for me to carry my groceries home, then then the car is useless to me.
I can't use Mac OS X for business use. I can't use Mac OS X for personal use (poor PC game support).
I don't pick my OS for philosophical reasons. I pick the OS that can do what I need it to do. And Mac doesn't do that. That's why I use Windows
your laptop using SATA 2 or SATA 3 ? nice vid bro.
Hold on a sec...you say this is an "old" Windows 7 installation? Do you mind clarifying that a bit? Did you replace your original Hard Disk Drive with an SSD 3 years ago (or however long you mentioned in that video) and THEN did a CLEAN install of Windows 7 on the blank SSD?
And you've been running Windows 7 on that SSD since then for about 3 years now? I thought SSDs only came to market like at most 2 years ago? But I could be wrong....nice video and a very cool professional voice.
@CrASYmUZIk besides loading speeds newer SSDs also use less power when being used and little to none while idle which doesn't really matter in a desktop computer but for devices that run on batteries like laptops it saves a lot of battery power
This is going into my i7 - 2600k QuadCore.
SSDs are not expensive at all.
Today, you can easily buy a 120GB SSD for $70 - $90. That is outright cheaper than any meaningful CPU or HDD upgrade. Even at the time this video was made (Oct.2010), a 120GB SSD was ~$220, which was still a smarter buy than upgrading CPU, RAM, or HDD.
3 years ago, you could say that SSDs are expensive. Today, buying an SSD is going to be **CHEAPER** than upgrading any other component in your computer.
@J1SMOKES
This particular SSD is an 80GB Intel X25-M SSD. I think I paid around $225 for it about 1 year ago.
i use SSD 1TB for music games etc and my other SSD 15GB for windows 7 home :P
No. It does not matter is an OS is the only data on the SSD, or if the SSD contains mixed data from OS + apps + games.
If you want an SSD, then:
1) Buy the largest SSD you can afford.
2) Put your bulk media (music, videos, photos, etc) on a slow, inexpensive hard disk drive, since that type of content doesn't benefit from SSD speeds.
In my video, I said that I intentionally set 27 programs to start purely for demonstration purposes. I don't actually run 27 programs when I boot my machine. The purpose of this extreme example is to show what a difference an SSD can make to even a 4-year old Core 2 Duo laptop.
Back then, my 128GB SSD cost me $200. Today, the same SSD will cost under $100. Many people are so concerned with CPU & RAM, that they don't realize that an SSD is the smart money choice for an upgrade.
That is beautiful
@danteslight
32-bit software applications run just fine in Windows 7 64-bit, but not 32-bit **driver-level** software. Need a 32-bit OS to run that stuff.
Space is not an issue with my work laptop (I only use 45GB, tops). On my desktop & gaming laptop, I simply keep the space-eating files (videos, photos, porn, etc) on a separate high-capacity mechanical hard drive. Speed doesn't matter for that kind of content, so there is no benefit to keeping that stuff on an SSD.
@stormcsss
55F.
In case you can't tell by my accent, I'm American. And in America, we use the Fahrenheit system. Which now that I learn more about it, is pretty retarded.
Celsius makes sense... 0C for water freezing, 100C for water boiling. Simple, logical. But Daniel Fahrenheit used some back-asswards system where 0F is the temperature of a mixture of ice, water, and ammonium chloride, and 100F as the temperature of liquid in a thermometer when held under the armpit of his wife.
@muffdriver69 nobody needs to drive a Ferrari at 155mph either. But sometimes its fun to watch, just to see how much faster it is than a Toyota Camry.
SSDs are the Ferraris of the computer storage world. Expensive, small capacity, and inconveient. But there are plenty of people willing to accept those drawbacks, for the priviledge of getting the highest performing piece of gear they can get.
awesome, making me think about getting the new intel g3 ssd's come 2011