Why do people watch videos of monkeys if they hate them so much that just don't make sense to me ... monkeys are clean animals they are grooming all the time .. I know it is to make friends and to show love but it is also to get the fleas and other bugs off of them right i see where some one commented about them being flea ridden but with all that grooming I don't see how they could have any bugs on them very long
At the end i hope you meant the mother and baby not Sally?if you people stop fuckin feeding them maybe the mothers will go back to worrying about their young instead of handouts they don't need.these people should ruin their own lives not these monkeys oh yeah they have no life
Spunky sure gave it a valiant fight!! She was mad! I sure hope kidnapping is not on the rise here?! I feel Sally is a good Mom & knows what she is doing in terms of how to get Spunky back. If she just goes & grabs her she surely could get hurt or even killed. I think she watches very carefully & follows Shari's every move & waits until she feels it is the right time to make a move to get her back. This is just my humble opinion, of course!! It must be so painful for Sally & Spunky & the others Moms watching.
I think with Gypsy, she is a very low ranking mom, therefore her options are limited. I know this is difficult for us understand (it goes against our inner heart) but it is the monkey’s culture and must be obeyed. I watch and try to understand these traditions and what purpose they serve....some are easy to understand, but others allude me. What purpose does it serve for Gypsy to suffer as she does. Why are these traditions so ridged they leave a baby orphan to die. If they no longer have a purpose how long will it take to change to a more logical updated behavior? I will continue to watch and learn.
Tricia Ross the mothers don’t just sit by. They are carefully calculating their moment to move in to take the baby *without risking additional harm* to her infant. The kidnapper escalates out of spite sometimes such as when Dy threw spunky down the wall. It was only luck that she survived. It was a fatal drop. The rank goes along in this insofar as it’s always the low rankers who are subjected to this so that’s not so much a factor since it’s a pre-requisite of the kidnap in the first place. I’ve been studying human behavior for my whole life and this is just beyond what I can process! So that’s why I’ve tried to read everything I can get my hands on. It’s so upsetting!
Lora M that is true. You never see a high ranking baby kidnapped very often. I was very surprised when Sassy was kidnapped by Dy. (Dy is kind of a troublemaker, huh?) But for the most part, higher ranking females take the lower ranking babies and then, from what I’ve read, not really care for them. Just another way that the survival of the higher ranking babies is assured. Funny, I used to think they were all a bunch of nasty, disease-ridden vermin that needed to be thinned out, but I’ve grown fascinated by their very meticulous hierarchy and rules.
They should not sterilize the girls until they have had at least one child that may cut down on the kidnappings. If the girl turns out to be a bad mom beating her baby all the time, put her down.
Very cute babies with mommies on the steep hill very hard to run up or down this mommies very smart know how to get up and down is very. Steep. Bless you all good video thank you .
I don't believe I've ever seen a baby fight so hard to get away from a kidnapper as our little Spunky. She certainly does live up to her name. You'd think Shary and Dy would pick on more docile babies to snatch. Spocky's being as cute as ever...he has to be the most precious little boy since Dopey!
Did we catch kidnapping disease from AW? Sheesh. I don't know why but watching Shary stand up and squirm and dance when Spunky is clinging to her stomach.. just irks me beyond description. But when I think about the natural mum, who carries this baby from the time it weighs nothing until it's born, it gradually adds a little weight each day so as soon as baby latches on it feels normal, shes already used to that extra weight there. But not a newbie aunt in training, especially this crazy one. I don 't think she knows why she's taking the baby and/or keeping it, or what she even wants, to be honest! lol. I am really curious if monkeys have a "conscience"? A sense of right or wrong. And the ability to categorize any one behavior as one or the other. I.e. does she know what's she's doing is "wrong", or just that the baby's mum doesn't like it. And is Sally really lower in rank? She sure knows how to mean mug you gotta give her that! I hope she starts keeping a closer eye on Spunky. Great video, you capture so many amazing moments so well!
18:40 She's pissed off, sounds like mumbling under her breath- looks like shes mouthing "G-Damn that Shary. Makin' me chase all over hell and half of Georgia to get my baby..freaking Bitch!"
Brian Leonard your right Brian, when she come back down with Spunky you can see her lips moving just like she mumbling under her breath saying what you said, which was freaking hilarious BTW!!!!!
Baby is cute with mommy,s looking after him he is good looking little guy his mom holding tigh on her baby very good mom kidnapper about thank you.good video. Bless you all good video,
Thank God I don't live there because I love these little babies and I really hate seeing them being mistreated by anything let alone it being kidnapped and being mistreated I would go after the kidnappers and I would beat them with bats just to get the baby back to its mother but I also know that, that must happen all the time there I watch these all the time every day really i really wish I could rescue a newborn and I would give it the best life I could I would take it every where with me. I'm just amazed by them there really smart if you really spend time teaching them, and I mean teaching them with love not to make money with them but just like I would raise a kid ya know the only thing it would want for would be me say I was gone all day working or something but I would also bring it with me when I went to work most of the time because I build houses so it would be able to come with me most of the time but say it couldn't I would always leave it with someone who I trusted and somone the monkey it self trusted ya know I would love to come home and see that little bugger come running back to me when I get back home from work I would live that I gotta tell ya that monkey would love ne it really would because I would protect it with my life I really would I wish I lived there where I could have one.
Some of the babies with their ears sticking out reminds me of "little elves" all of them. So cute and adorable. Wish they give them scape of food so they get used to it. When they have teeth.
I know it's distressing to see a baby in apparent danger, but monkeys have been getting on just fine since time immemorial. What we're seeing is an amplified form of aunting made more dramatic because of the fact that the "kidnappers" are spayed and don't understand why they cannot have babies. Another reminder that human interference always causes problems, even when it's well-intentioned. Regardless, I don't think there's any intent to harm the babies.
I'm curious, where would you draw the line between kidnapping and aunting? I think back to Aggie and how we thought she was a kidnapper when in reality she had a bun in the oven and was practicing for her impending arrival, even if she wasn't always as gentle as she should have been with the babies.
Okay, here's a conspiracy theory for you ((I'm only joking))... Sally and Spunky set that all up, cuz they knew they'd get a treat from you out of it. they know a good thing when they see it, lol.. Yeah yeah yeah, I'm only kidding... they really went through a big ordeal and truly deserved your kindness, thanks Arroz!!! :)
We have a plethora of adorable babies to love on, to our heart's content, this season; and yet, our hearts ache when any single one of them is in distress. They are far more than beasts of the forests. They share our heritage of planet Earth. All creatures human, primate, or otherwise, belong here and should be treated with respect, and love. If only we hadn't taken Shary's gift to bear a child away from her, then our little Spunky wouldn't keep finding herself in such treacherous situations as these.
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That happen because they don't had food enough to eat so they under stress! Some of those, in another country has a lot of fruit trees they don't fight they take cae each other
It's funny how no matter how much a baby is crying for their mom and is struggling to get away as soon as the kidnapper gets up to walk the baby holds tight onto their fur. They never let go and try to get away as long as the kidnapper is standing or walking. I'm guessing they do it because it's their instinct to hold onto their mother.
I'm so confused...she oviously didn't want this baby latching to her..she looked like she just wanted baby to get away...but yet wouldn't release baby to mom on many attempts from mom....crazy Yaaaay sally!..so refreshing see a mom actually hunt down an fight for her baby back
Spunky sounds upset ... do ya think?! At least it appears that Spunky made that kidnapping as unpleasant as possible for Shary. It was almost as if, when Shary went to groom Sally, she was thinking *take her back, take her back*. All that running around and hauling on Spunky must have been terrifying for that poor baby. She sure attracted a crowd. The close ups are great, you can count hairs, but I think I liked a little wider shot like those in the past. There's so much going on in the background and the wider shots let us see that too.
OMG that lil guy chomping on a piece of that sweet potato at 17:12, teething baby Spocky is just soo cute!! 17:48 LOVED the sound effect!! HAHA WOW Dolly's munching away on her sweet potato (Dolly's one of the bigger Rhesus monkey's I have seen in this area, just an observation, I guess I am used to seeing Tina, Skinny, Tabby, etc) but at 21:10 she grabs Spocky's arm; think she noticed Shary right there and doesn't even want Spocky going near Shary, even tho she is eating too!! Not many of the LTM's would bother looking after their kids while eating. AWWWW Giving Sally a sweet potato I bet all is right with her world again! Thank you for an amazing video!
Damn these kidnappers at least the Rhesus will persevere until they get the baby back. @ 19:20 I thought Dolly had changed sex :-). A disturbing but still a great video Thank you.
I have such a hard time watching the kidnapped videos. Knowing the baby was safe, per comments, allowed me to watch. It seems to happen a lot less with the rhesus than the LTM. Is that true? Where are each of them on the hierarchy? Not being able to just grab the baby back hurts my heart!
There must be something about Spunky why she keeps getting kidnapped...poor luv!. It was so very upsetting to watch, and all the time praying that there would be a happy outcome. Spunky is just too cute and Sally is obviously inexperienced. Spunky certainly put up a resistance, she did not make it at all easy for Shary. I wonder what it is about Macaque's that make them have the urge to kidnap babies?
LTMs are known to kidnap babies regularly. Rhesus not so much - and I think here these few females are just smitten with baby fever as they have been spayed and are childless.
Whose baby is Shary's holding? It seems the baby is distressed so is this an abduction?So glad Sally has her baby back. That baby was determined to get back to mom.
Should repeat offending babynappers be culled if they are dangerous to newborns? Sounds mean but so are they..just wonderin'. Sha is nuts. She grabs and then doesn't know what to do with her:(
Sad how they forgot and the new generation will never know how to go and eat the food sources in tjat damn forest. They are now ruined.eating whatever, tiny bugs,turds,off the dirt, on the roads people have really ruined these poor monkeys, I wish this would be against the law but when you live in the land of scumbags this us what you get horrible
awww I kinda feel sorry for this kidnapper. I mean she isn't stealing the baby for food or attention. I honestly thinks she just wants to be a mom. To be honest, I don't see these monkeys kidnapping like all the time. Maybe they are kidnapping her because, she is a female. Females are pretty rare in these troops due to the neutering. BTW, Spunky is pretty adorable like all of these babies. O.K O.K...now that is something new..LOL 5:35 What the heck?? Now that is kinda mean!! These monkeys are NOTHING like the long tails!! They work together to get the baby back...Now that is awesome!!
Well that's what "kidnapping" is in a healthy troop, a younger female preparing to be a mom by "practicing." It's just that we've all got a warped view of what aunting is because the Angkor monkeys have figured out that having a baby = more food from humans.
I feel bad for the baby of course, she isnt harming him tho. She just wants one. She isnt dragging him or beating him like most do at that horrible Angkor temple in cambodia. Talk about frustrating, those kidnappings r tough to watch.
Ironically, Sharry and Dy are condemned for wanting to be mom's, though they are going about it in the wrong way... but a mother like Gypsy acted like she didn't want to be a mother to poor Knotty... a head-shaker to me. I'm sure most won't agree with me, but my heart goes out to Sharry. She must be really hurting inside and feel so deprived, thus she's resorting to desperate measures to hold a baby 'of her own'. The baby distress call is possibly, in part, due to the fact that Spunky is hungry and not able to nurse with aunty. Although, Spunky must be getting pretty dizzy with all that twirling Sharry is performing :)
and Shari seems really gentle with Spunky, she just wants to hold a baby and groom. I think Sally will learn in time it's better to let her do so rather than chasing her.
I think with Gypsy, she is a very low ranking mom, therefore her options are limited. I know this is difficult for us to understand (it goes against our inner heart) but it is the monkey’s culture and must be obeyed. I watch and try to understand these traditions and what purpose they serve....some are easy to understand, but others allude me. What purpose does it serve for Gypsy to suffer as she does. Why are these traditions so ridged they leave a baby orphan to die. If they no longer have a purpose how long will it take to change to a more logical updated behavior? I will continue to watch and learn.
lbird the mothers should *not* be condemned! They don’t just sit by. They are carefully calculating their moment to move in to take the baby *without risking additional harm* to her infant. The kidnapper escalates out of spite sometimes such as when Dy threw spunky down the wall. It was only luck that she survived. It was a fatal drop. The rank goes along in this insofar as it’s always the low rankers who are subjected to this so that’s not so much a factor since it’s a pre-requisite of the kidnap in the first place. I’ve been studying human behavior for my whole life and this is just beyond what I can process! So that’s why I’ve tried to read everything I can get my hands on. It’s so upsetting!
around 3:30 the felon looks soooo guilty - kid crying out for help, other monkeys looking suspiciously and the molester is nervously trying to quiet Spunks
You’ll notice at 3:53, the monkey on the left (not sure who it was by name) is lip smacking at the baby, a behavior among primates when they’re trying to soothe their young or show submission. I sense there must be a lot of sympathy going out to this little baby from the monkeys surrounding him. Very interesting
It just upsets me so, when a baby is kidnapped or even just gets hurt. Makes my heart hurt. The pain that Arroz feels in this type situation must be such agony. I so sorry Arroz. Gods bless you
Actually rank means everything in monkey societies. Many times that is what the kidnapping is all about as I have seen, a higher ranking monkey asserting themselves against a lower ranking female....at that point they (the lower ranking female and ) pretty much have to wait it out. I mean sometimes the kidnapper can be very nasty and even bite the baby when it tries to get away and/or push them off of them and threaten to abandon which causes an already distressed baby to truly panic. That was not the case here, Sharry clearly meant no harm, just wanted to "aunt" or babysit. But of course babies never really to be with anyone other than mom, there was no reason for Spunky to panic here, except that he is used to his mom catering to his every need.
No, she did this to Spunky before. She runs away with the baby when the mum gets closer. She wants a baby and seems fixated on our little Spunky. But, good thinking Becky Stokes...wish that were the case.
Sarah Marie I don't blame Shary. Spunky is precious and quite spirited. Arroz gave her a very fitting name. Thank you Sarah Marie. I wish that was the case as well. I should have known that would be too good to be true.
It's a burning shame what the Kiddnapers are putting those babies though this ordeal for crying out loud , I believe if the males had stuck around this cruel act wouldn't have started , the males could have been protection for the troops , the poor little thing has been crying so pityfull , hungry, wants Mama Lo
Wow at 13:40 she's lucky that a baby so young is able to hold on, that was pretty amazing. Poor Spunky. I have to believe when they are crying, geckering, and distress calling, the kidnapper must at that point be aware that it's actions are "wrong" so to speak... right?
I know this was posted so long ago but hoping someone replies. I’m so confused as to what was happening there with Shary? Did she kidnap Spunky? Was she “aunting”? It looked like several times she was doing all she could to get rid of Spunky even so much as going over to groom Sally? I really would like to understand and educate myself so if anyone is able to give me even just a little heads up I would be forever grateful!! -- poor Spunky! That kids been thru a lot!!
Rhesus macaques don't normally kidnap. Aunting ( babysitting ) they do though and a normal female has to go through a ritual to ask for permission ( grooming the mother, presenting her rump to a baby in a specific way - you could find more info here in this video ruclips.net/video/E9Yimcuz8ck/видео.html ) Shary and a few of the " kidnappers " are essentially desperate females who are craving to have babies but can't as they have been fixed by the authourity ( those that have tattoos on their chest basically ) but they still remember to perform the ritual though perfunctorily from time to time. They are victims of our interference as rhesus aren't known to kidnap like their tropical counterparts long tailed.....
Arroz Marisco -thank you so much for the awesome explanation and additional info. You’re channel is just amazing. I’m so hooked it borders on unhealthy some times! Like I literally lose sleep because I’m up late at night addicted to your videos! Thank goodness there are years worth for me to catch up ! Lol - you are really an amazing, caring and incredibly knowledgeable man! Hoping some day myself and the others can make a pilgrimage to meet our fave Director/Producer! (You’re so much more than a “VO” to me!). Stay safe out there Arroz!!
She is just inexperienced and I think she will learn in time that Shari ( unlike Dy who seems very rough ) doesn't intend to hurt a baby, she just wants to hold and nurse one and it's better to just let her do so as she will return the baby a while later.
Get a couple piggies they can run and climb trees fast. They can get the babies fast. Way back then they were used to climb totem poles. They can run like the wind and they are built strong.
The music shorts, bells, dings, horns etc. are blaring and annoying in what was a nice track of birds and monkeys eating. Rather corny. Supremely annoying!!!!
I don't think I've ever seen a baby stuff is pouches like that before and if he's just now teething how can he chew on all that sweet potato in his mouth hope he doesn't choke on it
Shary has higher ranking than Sally does. So when Shary kidnaps Spunky there is nothing that she can really do about it until Shary wants to let the baby go or the baby manages to get away from Shary. Now if someone kidnapped Spunky that has lower ranking than Sally, then Sally can kick their butt and take her baby back. The male babies dont really have much to worry about cause the kidnapper(Shary) just wants a girl baby. Now whenever Dy takes Spunky, it is because Dy is trying to kill Spunky. The hierarchy females want to be the only ones that have female babies, so that those babies will grow up and stay being the hierarchy female. If any low ranking female has a female child, then that female once she is grown up, can challenge the heirarchy female to a fight. Which ever female wins that fight will be the new heirarchy female of the troop and it doesnt matter if the winner of the fight was born from a low ranking female or not. She will be the new boss of the troop(if she also beats Bossy, unless Bossy is the mother of the winner) until another female(that is not hers) grows up and challenges for heirarchy. So Dy is trying to help Bossy by not letting there be any other females besides Bossy's that can challenge her daughter for heirarchy.
The whole situation sucks, that Spunky is always going to be in danger, but that is their way of life. Now Lilly must be higher up in the ranking in the troop because as far as i know she did not have to go through any of this. But i dont know.
When moms are eating and they do not pay much attention to their babies is how they get kidnapped. The moms think more about eating than their babies. Also, if the baby finds some good and mom finished all of hers she will take it from the baby even when it is in the babies pouch
It’s refreshing to see them in nature on this channel where they belong. Unlike I see all over the internet of abuse that humans inflict on them. Example... Here is a link to another abused baby monkey The link is someone exposing the abuse. This person does NOT own the monkey. ruclips.net/video/aBwt5NRvLuM/видео.html This ignorant lady has this sweet baby locked in a bedroom and any time it try’s to act like a baby monkey she yells at it. She also keeps a shock collar on the poor little thing. The cage she has for it contains NOTHING for stimulation for a baby monkey. Nothing for it to climb and nothing to play with anywhere in sight. I just can not fathom this kind of ignorance and cruelty.
Oh no....Shary! She nearly killed our poor little Spunky last time. :( I wish I understood why mum is sitting so close without threatening Shary and why she has her back turned to Spunky. Do you have any insight Arroz? Have you ever seen an aunt run out of a troop for kidnapping...or any troop member? Shary's lost her mind! To bad we can't give her a robot baby to take care of to help soothe her need to be a mother. I really hope Sally keeps an eye on Shary and tells her to back off...with a deadly serious warning! I'm proud of Spunky for fighting the way she does. She's gonna be quite the scraper after all of this.
It was poor Dy (who also just wants to be a mom) who almost killed her when Spunky slipped out of her grip and fell off the slope. Although, Sharry too did kidnap Spunky previously. :(
They need to get their babies back no matter what. Rank means nothing. Fighting the kidnappers and biting them hard will teach them to leave their kids alone.
Why do people watch videos of monkeys if they hate them so much that just don't make sense to me ... monkeys are clean animals they are grooming all the time .. I know it is to make friends and to show love but it is also to get the fleas and other bugs off of them right i see where some one commented about them being flea ridden but with all that grooming I don't see how they could have any bugs on them very long
I hope I didn't sound rude I really truly love watching your videos you are the best I've seen on RUclips truly
I second the notion!
I completely agree...your the best I've seen on any site..love your videos and commentary.
WOW...THIS EPISODE WAS INTERESTING...THNX ARROZ 👍🏻💖🌺
I loved the sound effects for Spocky. That was precious and funny!
*When you think about it - it is still human intervention because of the spaying and not allowing them to become mothers.*
I totally agree and glad they just kidnap to nurse not to hurt/torture.
Ya, not like long tail Macaques, they are mean, more than not.
@@ArrozMarisco360 another snide remark at long tails
Some aren't very good Mom's seems like....
They are the cutest little things. So playful and unbothered. I love it
No Responsibility, they act like A lot of Humans.😅😂😂😅
Thank you thank you Lord for letting her have that baby back
Shary has no clue what she's doing. That baby is all over the place. Shary is up, down, backwards forwards.. Nervous as a tic on a griddle..
RustyAnne
Biggest Tick, she has ever had, Stuck to her. Poor old girl, doesn't have A clue..😮😮
Thank Heavens! Way to go Sally! Just in time for some goodies!
5:36 she wish the kidnapper can cleane up but they don't like her they just look at her with the "what are you even doing here anyways" LOL
Spunky has some lungs on him that's for sure lol! And he's not too happy about this situation
Spocky really is too cute for words... Dopey's double LOL!!! :)
Knowing the baby isn't in danger its fun to watch Shary struggle with the fighting baby. Kinda sad too though. Can't help but feel sorry for her.
"Isn't in danger" I'm guessing you didn't see the video of the first time Dy stole Spunky and dropped off the side of the hill from about 25 feet up.
@@spankieschmidt3834 - I remember that and it was scary to see the baby land well and not be injured. It was amazing.
Sorry for who? Shary are you mad?
Not to mention the hundreds of others that's been killed by their kidnapper. Some people don't know shit
At the end i hope you meant the mother and baby not Sally?if you people stop fuckin feeding them maybe the mothers will go back to worrying about their young instead of handouts they don't need.these people should ruin their own lives not these monkeys oh yeah they have no life
Such adorable baby
Spunky sure gave it a valiant fight!! She was mad! I sure hope kidnapping is not on the rise here?! I feel Sally is a good Mom & knows what she is doing in terms of how to get Spunky back. If she just goes & grabs her she surely could get hurt or even killed. I think she watches very carefully & follows Shari's every move & waits until she feels it is the right time to make a move to get her back. This is just my humble opinion, of course!! It must be so painful for Sally & Spunky & the others Moms watching.
Spocky has the vutest eyes!!😊
I think with Gypsy, she is a very low ranking mom, therefore her options are limited. I know this is difficult for us understand (it goes against our inner heart) but it is the monkey’s culture and must be obeyed. I watch and try to understand these traditions and what purpose they serve....some are easy to understand, but others allude me. What purpose does it serve for Gypsy to suffer as she does. Why are these traditions so ridged they leave a baby orphan to die. If they no longer have a purpose how long will it take to change to a more logical updated behavior? I will continue to watch and learn.
Tricia Ross the mothers don’t just sit by. They are carefully calculating their moment to move in to take the baby *without risking additional harm* to her infant. The kidnapper escalates out of spite sometimes such as when Dy threw spunky down the wall. It was only luck that she survived. It was a fatal drop. The rank goes along in this insofar as it’s always the low rankers who are subjected to this so that’s not so much a factor since it’s a pre-requisite of the kidnap in the first place. I’ve been studying human behavior for my whole life and this is just beyond what I can process! So that’s why I’ve tried to read everything I can get my hands on. It’s so upsetting!
Lora M that is true. You never see a high ranking baby kidnapped very often. I was very surprised when Sassy was kidnapped by Dy. (Dy is kind of a troublemaker, huh?) But for the most part, higher ranking females take the lower ranking babies and then, from what I’ve read, not really care for them. Just another way that the survival of the higher ranking babies is assured.
Funny, I used to think they were all a bunch of nasty, disease-ridden vermin that needed to be thinned out, but I’ve grown fascinated by their very meticulous hierarchy and rules.
As low as rank she is she still can't make the non killer kidnapper to groom the kidnapper. Lol!
They should not sterilize the girls until they have had at least one child that may cut down on the kidnappings. If the girl turns out to be a bad mom beating her baby all the time, put her down.
Very cute babies with mommies on the steep hill very hard to run up or down this mommies very smart know how to get up and down is very. Steep. Bless you all good video thank you .
She is trying to get that baby back to Mom without loosing face.
I don't believe I've ever seen a baby fight so hard to get away from a kidnapper as our little Spunky. She certainly does live up to her name. You'd think Shary and Dy would pick on more docile babies to snatch.
Spocky's being as cute as ever...he has to be the most precious little boy since Dopey!
Hi very well done I love watching the monkeys keep giving great photos gif bless you
Did we catch kidnapping disease from AW? Sheesh. I don't know why but watching Shary stand up and squirm and dance when Spunky is clinging to her stomach.. just irks me beyond description. But when I think about the natural mum, who carries this baby from the time it weighs nothing until it's born, it gradually adds a little weight each day so as soon as baby latches on it feels normal, shes already used to that extra weight there. But not a newbie aunt in training, especially this crazy one. I don 't think she knows why she's taking the baby and/or keeping it, or what she even wants, to be honest! lol.
I am really curious if monkeys have a "conscience"? A sense of right or wrong. And the ability to categorize any one behavior as one or the other. I.e. does she know what's she's doing is "wrong", or just that the baby's mum doesn't like it. And is Sally really lower in rank? She sure knows how to mean mug you gotta give her that! I hope she starts keeping a closer eye on Spunky. Great video, you capture so many amazing moments so well!
jcastanza she was requesting something
18:40 She's pissed off, sounds like mumbling under her breath- looks like shes mouthing "G-Damn that Shary. Makin' me chase all over hell and half of Georgia to get my baby..freaking Bitch!"
I almost spit my coffee!! ...*all over hell and half of Georgia*... thanks for the belly laugh!
Brian Leonard your right Brian, when she come back down with Spunky you can see her lips moving just like she mumbling under her breath saying what you said, which was freaking hilarious BTW!!!!!
Spocky has got to b the cutest baby 🐵 ever 💘
He don't have that sense of balance just yet LOL
Baby is cute with mommy,s looking after him he is good looking little guy his mom holding tigh on her baby very good mom kidnapper about thank you.good video. Bless you all good video,
They are clever. They exit stage left & appear stage right! LOL Thanks so much for the video.
Thank God I don't live there because I love these little babies and I really hate seeing them being mistreated by anything let alone it being kidnapped and being mistreated I would go after the kidnappers and I would beat them with bats just to get the baby back to its mother but I also know that, that must happen all the time there I watch these all the time every day really i really wish I could rescue a newborn and I would give it the best life I could I would take it every where with me. I'm just amazed by them there really smart if you really spend time teaching them, and I mean teaching them with love not to make money with them but just like I would raise a kid ya know the only thing it would want for would be me say I was gone all day working or something but I would also bring it with me when I went to work most of the time because I build houses so it would be able to come with me most of the time but say it couldn't I would always leave it with someone who I trusted and somone the monkey it self trusted ya know I would love to come home and see that little bugger come running back to me when I get back home from work I would live that I gotta tell ya that monkey would love ne it really would because I would protect it with my life I really would I wish I lived there where I could have one.
I don't understand why the mom don't try to get her back. Poor spunky, so desperate.
Another great 👍 video
Some of the babies with their ears sticking out reminds me of "little elves" all of them. So cute and adorable. Wish they give them scape of food so they get used to it. When they have teeth.
I know it's distressing to see a baby in apparent danger, but monkeys have been getting on just fine since time immemorial. What we're seeing is an amplified form of aunting made more dramatic because of the fact that the "kidnappers" are spayed and don't understand why they cannot have babies. Another reminder that human interference always causes problems, even when it's well-intentioned. Regardless, I don't think there's any intent to harm the babies.
Yes I think so too. These " kidnappers" are very gentle on the whole and you could clearly see they just want to hold a baby and groom it.
I'm curious, where would you draw the line between kidnapping and aunting? I think back to Aggie and how we thought she was a kidnapper when in reality she had a bun in the oven and was practicing for her impending arrival, even if she wasn't always as gentle as she should have been with the babies.
Okay, here's a conspiracy theory for you ((I'm only joking))... Sally and Spunky set that all up, cuz they knew they'd get a treat from you out of it. they know a good thing when they see it, lol.. Yeah yeah yeah, I'm only kidding... they really went through a big ordeal and truly deserved your kindness, thanks Arroz!!! :)
What did you mean at :28 “Shary’s doing it again”? AH! I didn’t realize she was a snatcher. I’m way behind on their names and who has who fo babies!
Did Sally turn & pee for a specific reason? It looked to me like a very calculated move, imo
We have a plethora of adorable babies to love on, to our heart's content, this season; and yet, our hearts ache when any single one of them is in distress. They are far more than beasts of the forests. They share our heritage of planet Earth. All creatures human, primate, or otherwise, belong here and should be treated with respect, and love. If only we hadn't taken Shary's gift to bear a child away from her, then our little Spunky wouldn't keep finding herself in such treacherous situations as these.
15:51 Dolly took that right out of Spocky's mouth!!! Poor guy, good thing he's still nursing!!!
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That happen because they don't had food enough to eat so they under stress! Some of those, in another country has a lot of fruit trees they don't fight they take cae each other
The editing in this video wonderful!!!! Great video!!!
It's funny how no matter how much a baby is crying for their mom and is struggling to get away as soon as the kidnapper gets up to walk the baby holds tight onto their fur. They never let go and try to get away as long as the kidnapper is standing or walking. I'm guessing they do it because it's their instinct to hold onto their mother.
so this is the Mother's sister? She ( the Aunt ) looks as though she hasn't a clue how to hold on to the baby. Almost nervous
like with the child .
I'm so confused...she oviously didn't want this baby latching to her..she looked like she just wanted baby to get away...but yet wouldn't release baby to mom on many attempts from mom....crazy
Yaaaay sally!..so refreshing see a mom actually hunt down an fight for her baby back
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Spunky sounds upset ... do ya think?! At least it appears that Spunky made that kidnapping as unpleasant as possible for Shary. It was almost as if, when Shary went to groom Sally, she was thinking *take her back, take her back*. All that running around and hauling on Spunky must have been terrifying for that poor baby. She sure attracted a crowd. The close ups are great, you can count hairs, but I think I liked a little wider shot like those in the past. There's so much going on in the background and the wider shots let us see that too.
And definitely Spocky is giving Dopey a run for the Cutest Baby title!
I don’t understand why the group tolerate these kidnappers. Cudos to spunky, he’s making her life very difficult. 😄
I don't either
LOL the sound effect when Spunky fell over at 17:48 LOL I rewinded and made sure I heard right!! The sub titles too BEST because you explaom so much!
You mean Spocky :) I suppose !
Yes thank you!
OMG that lil guy chomping on a piece of that sweet potato at 17:12, teething baby Spocky is just soo cute!! 17:48 LOVED the sound effect!! HAHA WOW Dolly's munching away on her sweet potato (Dolly's one of the bigger Rhesus monkey's I have seen in this area, just an observation, I guess I am used to seeing Tina, Skinny, Tabby, etc) but at 21:10 she grabs Spocky's arm; think she noticed Shary right there and doesn't even want Spocky going near Shary, even tho she is eating too!! Not many of the LTM's would bother looking after their kids while eating. AWWWW Giving Sally a sweet potato I bet all is right with her world again! Thank you for an amazing video!
OMG these babies are gorgeous
Damn these kidnappers at least the Rhesus will persevere until they get the baby back. @ 19:20 I thought Dolly had changed sex :-). A disturbing but still a great video Thank you.
they are some rough kidnappers. how do they feed the babies already taken?
I have such a hard time watching the kidnapped videos. Knowing the baby was safe, per comments, allowed me to watch. It seems to happen a lot less with the rhesus than the LTM. Is that true?
Where are each of them on the hierarchy? Not being able to just grab the baby back hurts my heart!
There must be something about Spunky why she keeps getting kidnapped...poor luv!. It was so very upsetting to watch, and all the time praying that there would be a happy outcome. Spunky is just too cute and Sally is obviously inexperienced. Spunky certainly put up a resistance, she did not make it at all easy for Shary. I wonder what it is about Macaque's that make them have the urge to kidnap babies?
LTMs are known to kidnap babies regularly. Rhesus not so much - and I think here these few females are just smitten with baby fever as they have been spayed and are childless.
Whose baby is Shary's holding? It seems the baby is distressed so is this an abduction?So glad Sally has her baby back. That baby was determined to get back to mom.
That baby sure is enjoying that sweet potato so is her mama
Should repeat offending babynappers be culled if they are
dangerous to newborns? Sounds mean but so are they..just wonderin'. Sha is nuts. She grabs and then doesn't know what to do with her:(
Mommy,s you to rough to your baby are you the grandma or you are kidnapper you look bully to me thank you for sharing .
Sad how they forgot and the new generation will never know how to go and eat the food sources in tjat damn forest. They are now ruined.eating whatever, tiny bugs,turds,off the dirt, on the roads people have really ruined these poor monkeys, I wish this would be against the law but when you live in the land of scumbags this us what you get horrible
Why on earth does the mom even let the 'kidnapper' get close enough to touch, let alone get ahold of, Spunky?
Lucy Kelly thank you
awww I kinda feel sorry for this kidnapper. I mean she isn't stealing the baby for food or attention. I honestly thinks she just wants to be a mom. To be honest, I don't see these monkeys kidnapping like all the time. Maybe they are kidnapping her because, she is a female. Females are pretty rare in these troops due to the neutering. BTW, Spunky is pretty adorable like all of these babies.
O.K O.K...now that is something new..LOL 5:35 What the heck?? Now that is kinda mean!!
These monkeys are NOTHING like the long tails!! They work together to get the baby back...Now that is awesome!!
Well that's what "kidnapping" is in a healthy troop, a younger female preparing to be a mom by "practicing." It's just that we've all got a warped view of what aunting is because the Angkor monkeys have figured out that having a baby = more food from humans.
Spun KY closer to her. She's let her get kidnapped one to many times at her your age.
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How do they make that decision to spade a female? How can you tell?
I would like to know why these kidnappers are allowed to stay within the troop
Is this after spunky fall down cliff??
Spocky is by far the cutest baby we ever had. Way cuter than Dopey.
At 5:40 she wanted to groom her AND keep the baby lol
I feel bad for the baby of course, she isnt harming him tho. She just wants one. She isnt dragging him or beating him like most do at that horrible Angkor temple in cambodia. Talk about frustrating, those kidnappings r tough to watch.
What was happening at 5.30?. Watch the hands....wow
Ironically, Sharry and Dy are condemned for wanting to be mom's, though they are going about it in the wrong way... but a mother like Gypsy acted like she didn't want to be a mother to poor Knotty... a head-shaker to me. I'm sure most won't agree with me, but my heart goes out to Sharry. She must be really hurting inside and feel so deprived, thus she's resorting to desperate measures to hold a baby 'of her own'. The baby distress call is possibly, in part, due to the fact that Spunky is hungry and not able to nurse with aunty. Although, Spunky must be getting pretty dizzy with all that twirling Sharry is performing :)
and Shari seems really gentle with Spunky, she just wants to hold a baby and groom. I think Sally will learn in time it's better to let her do so rather than chasing her.
I hope so.
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I think with Gypsy, she is a very low ranking mom, therefore her options are limited. I know this is difficult for us to understand (it goes against our inner heart) but it is the monkey’s culture and must be obeyed. I watch and try to understand these traditions and what purpose they serve....some are easy to understand, but others allude me. What purpose does it serve for Gypsy to suffer as she does. Why are these traditions so ridged they leave a baby orphan to die. If they no longer have a purpose how long will it take to change to a more logical updated behavior? I will continue to watch and learn.
lbird the mothers should *not* be condemned! They don’t just sit by. They are carefully calculating their moment to move in to take the baby *without risking additional harm* to her infant. The kidnapper escalates out of spite sometimes such as when Dy threw spunky down the wall. It was only luck that she survived. It was a fatal drop. The rank goes along in this insofar as it’s always the low rankers who are subjected to this so that’s not so much a factor since it’s a pre-requisite of the kidnap in the first place. I’ve been studying human behavior for my whole life and this is just beyond what I can process! So that’s why I’ve tried to read everything I can get my hands on. It’s so upsetting!
around 3:30 the felon looks soooo guilty - kid crying out for help, other monkeys looking suspiciously and the molester is nervously trying to quiet Spunks
You’ll notice at 3:53, the monkey on the left (not sure who it was by name) is lip smacking at the baby, a behavior among primates when they’re trying to soothe their young or show submission. I sense there must be a lot of sympathy going out to this little baby from the monkeys surrounding him. Very interesting
It just upsets me so, when a baby is kidnapped or even just gets hurt. Makes my heart hurt. The pain that Arroz feels in this type situation must be such agony. I so sorry Arroz. Gods bless you
The damn mothers don't even attack the kidnappers to get their babies back. Rank means nothing. They need to defend their babies no matter what.
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Actually rank means everything in monkey societies. Many times that is what the kidnapping is all about as I have seen, a higher ranking monkey asserting themselves against a lower ranking female....at that point they (the lower ranking female and ) pretty much have to wait it out. I mean sometimes the kidnapper can be very nasty and even bite the baby when it tries to get away and/or push them off of them and threaten to abandon which causes an already distressed baby to truly panic. That was not the case here, Sharry clearly meant no harm, just wanted to "aunt" or babysit. But of course babies never really to be with anyone other than mom, there was no reason for Spunky to panic here, except that he is used to his mom catering to his every need.
Is it possible that Shary was trying to return Spunky, but didn't know how?
No, she did this to Spunky before. She runs away with the baby when the mum gets closer. She wants a baby and seems fixated on our little Spunky. But, good thinking Becky Stokes...wish that were the case.
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I don't blame Shary. Spunky is precious and quite spirited. Arroz gave her a very fitting name.
Thank you Sarah Marie. I wish that was the case as well. I should have known that would be too good to be true.
Becky Stokes ~That's what I was thinking too, Becky. 🐒
I wish the mother monkeys share some of their food, I guess mother nature don’t work like that with these species. 😊
It's a burning shame what the Kiddnapers are putting those babies though this ordeal for crying out loud , I believe if the males had stuck around this cruel act wouldn't have started , the males could have been protection for the troops , the poor little thing has been crying so pityfull , hungry, wants Mama Lo
Sally needs to Kung fu Shari ass, and Sally needs to start keeping spanky
Spocky is so cute gnawing on that piece of potato!
How old arethey when they start getting teeth on? Sometimes it loos like they have them at birth!? Lol😂
Something definitely wrong with this mother😞
Wow at 13:40 she's lucky that a baby so young is able to hold on, that was pretty amazing. Poor Spunky. I have to believe when they are crying, geckering, and distress calling, the kidnapper must at that point be aware that it's actions are "wrong" so to speak... right?
I know this was posted so long ago but hoping someone replies. I’m so confused as to what was happening there with Shary? Did she kidnap Spunky? Was she “aunting”? It looked like several times she was doing all she could to get rid of Spunky even so much as going over to groom Sally? I really would like to understand and educate myself so if anyone is able to give me even just a little heads up I would be forever grateful!! -- poor Spunky! That kids been thru a lot!!
Rhesus macaques don't normally kidnap. Aunting ( babysitting ) they do though and a normal female has to go through a ritual to ask for permission ( grooming the mother, presenting her rump to a baby in a specific way - you could find more info here in this video ruclips.net/video/E9Yimcuz8ck/видео.html ) Shary and a few of the " kidnappers " are essentially desperate females who are craving to have babies but can't as they have been fixed by the authourity ( those that have tattoos on their chest basically ) but they still remember to perform the ritual though perfunctorily from time to time. They are victims of our interference as rhesus aren't known to kidnap like their tropical counterparts long tailed.....
Arroz Marisco -thank you so much for the awesome explanation and additional info. You’re channel is just amazing. I’m so hooked it borders on unhealthy some times! Like I literally lose sleep because I’m up late at night addicted to your videos! Thank goodness there are years worth for me to catch up ! Lol - you are really an amazing, caring and incredibly knowledgeable man! Hoping some day myself and the others can make a pilgrimage to meet our fave Director/Producer! (You’re so much more than a “VO” to me!). Stay safe out there Arroz!!
I really think she was trying to get spunky off of her and give the little thing back because of how annoying it was.
Could be wrong but I think she was trying to trick mom into a fight
Did she kidnap
But you said that you gave them a treat how come you don't show that is what I'm asking
Because it's difficult and often impossible to do both at the same time !
Who's baby is this? Not Dolly's baby?
Shares like, you can take your baby anytime, I don't like it
Does nobody know how to plant some fruit trees..?????!
Why doesn't Spunkys mom fight Shari and get her baby Spunky back? Is there a ranking matter or some other matter? Please answer for me. 😎
She is just inexperienced and I think she will learn in time that Shari ( unlike Dy who seems very rough ) doesn't intend to hurt a baby, she just wants to hold and nurse one and it's better to just let her do so as she will return the baby a while later.
Get a couple piggies they can run and climb trees fast. They can get the babies fast. Way back then they were used to climb totem poles. They can run like the wind and they are built strong.
sandra white what us a piggie?
If this is bossies troopI wonder why she doesn't correct Sharry
At about 7:15 look at mom's mouth. Not lip-smacking but something else.???
I'm waiting for part two lol
The music shorts, bells, dings, horns etc. are blaring and annoying in what was a nice track of birds and monkeys eating. Rather corny. Supremely annoying!!!!
I don't think I've ever seen a baby stuff is pouches like that before and if he's just now teething how can he chew on all that sweet potato in his mouth hope he doesn't choke on it
Shary has higher ranking than Sally does. So when Shary kidnaps Spunky there is nothing that she can really do about it until Shary wants to let the baby go or the baby manages to get away from Shary. Now if someone kidnapped Spunky that has lower ranking than Sally, then Sally can kick their butt and take her baby back. The male babies dont really have much to worry about cause the kidnapper(Shary) just wants a girl baby. Now whenever Dy takes Spunky, it is because Dy is trying to kill Spunky. The hierarchy females want to be the only ones that have female babies, so that those babies will grow up and stay being the hierarchy female. If any low ranking female has a female child, then that female once she is grown up, can challenge the heirarchy female to a fight. Which ever female wins that fight will be the new heirarchy female of the troop and it doesnt matter if the winner of the fight was born from a low ranking female or not. She will be the new boss of the troop(if she also beats Bossy, unless Bossy is the mother of the winner) until another female(that is not hers) grows up and challenges for heirarchy. So Dy is trying to help Bossy by not letting there be any other females besides Bossy's that can challenge her daughter for heirarchy.
The whole situation sucks, that Spunky is always going to be in danger, but that is their way of life. Now Lilly must be higher up in the ranking in the troop because as far as i know she did not have to go through any of this. But i dont know.
Shary might also be out to kill Spunky but to me i just think that she wants a little girl baby.
I was really hoping that kidnappings did not happen with this troop.
Allison Mcknight. Nice job on explaining. You've helped me understand.
The rescue of baby Spunky took too long.....I got bored!
When moms are eating and they do not pay much attention to their babies is how they get kidnapped. The moms think more about eating than their babies. Also, if the baby finds some good and mom finished all of hers she will take it from the baby even when it is in the babies pouch
How old are these baby what kind of monkey are these.
a few months. they are rhesus.
It’s refreshing to see them in nature on this channel where they belong. Unlike I see all over the internet of abuse that humans inflict on them. Example...
Here is a link to another abused baby monkey
The link is someone exposing the abuse. This person does NOT own the monkey.
ruclips.net/video/aBwt5NRvLuM/видео.html
This ignorant lady has this sweet baby locked in a bedroom and any time it try’s to act like a baby monkey she yells at it. She also keeps a shock collar on the poor little thing. The cage she has for it contains NOTHING for stimulation for a baby monkey. Nothing for it to climb and nothing to play with anywhere in sight. I just can not fathom this kind of ignorance and cruelty.
Oh no....Shary! She nearly killed our poor little Spunky last time. :( I wish I understood why mum is sitting so close without threatening Shary and why she has her back turned to Spunky. Do you have any insight Arroz? Have you ever seen an aunt run out of a troop for kidnapping...or any troop member? Shary's lost her mind! To bad we can't give her a robot baby to take care of to help soothe her need to be a mother. I really hope Sally keeps an eye on Shary and tells her to back off...with a deadly serious warning! I'm proud of Spunky for fighting the way she does. She's gonna be quite the scraper after all of this.
It was poor Dy (who also just wants to be a mom) who almost killed her when Spunky slipped out of her grip and fell off the slope. Although, Sharry too did kidnap Spunky previously. :(
They need to get their babies back no matter what. Rank means nothing. Fighting the kidnappers and biting them hard will teach them to leave their kids alone.