I listen to this to fall asleep some days. I grew up beside a train yard so these are the sounds of growing up. I've since moved away and on nights that I can't sleep this is so comforting and soothing.
Thanks for this excellent video. The whole experience is "a million miles" from my daily life, so it's a great escape for me to watch and listen to this.
Thanks, yeah I first discovered Green River in 2004 while traveling around the USA in my RV. At the time I was more interested in the interesting sandstone formations and Flaming Gorge, but then I found this yard and the bridge of the river. Great place for sure.
Thanks so much for sharing this fantastic video of the U.P. yard at Green River! Videos such as yours help me to capture "the feel" for that area, which I am modeling. The pedestrian bridge is a great place from which to do railfanning, isn't it? And the U.P. depot certainly is the most prominent railroad structure, both at Green River and on my layout. It was really fun watching this video. ...Roy
Yes, I am, my friend. I'm modeling the U.P. Evanston Subdivision, or rather, portions of it, including Green River, Evanston, and Echo Canyon in N scale. Here's the link to my RUclips channel: ruclips.net/channel/UC6bAJSz60lH7Eb_THff_xfw. I also have a Facebook group. Here's the link to that group: facebook.com/groups/724442657753901/. Go on over and check it out. Roy
How long was that train at the start it felt like it was never-ending. Absolutely blows my mind [being from the UK] how long some of these trains are and how they don't get pulled apart.
I'm not sure on the precise length of any of these trains, but the typical length of freight trains in the western USA is about 1.3 miles or 2.1km though there are exceptions in both directions. In many parts of Europe all trains are powered by overhead wires, but in the great expanse of the American west that's impractical so the trains are powered by diesel-electric locos in the range of 4400hp (3300kW) each and, depending on the terrain, they might have as few as three engines or over six of them. The stretch of line shown in this video has significant elevation difference east towards Cheyenne and west towards Ogden. It is in this stretch from Cheyenne to Ogden that, prior to diesel, the UP used the largest steam engines on the planet, engines like the famous Big Boy 4014. Back in 2019 the Big Boy, having been reclaimed from display and refurbished, went on a tour to celebrate the 150 anniversary of the completion of the RR west to California -- I was unaware of the trip and missed it sad-to-say. Here's a link to a video of that trip in 2019, it's not my video and there are numerous others -- I love the crowds that gathered to watch history roll by. ruclips.net/video/JlFEuRcprEY/видео.html
I had to adjust the exposure quite a bit as the Sun was in and out of the clouds and the light level kept changing. I was also pretty cold -- a bit below freezing.
I don't think they do much car loading at Green River, as trains arrive they either pass thru as is or it stops so some of the cars can be removed and stored until needed when another train (consist) is created. Green River isn't near any major city or industrial area, just a stop on the UP line. Places like Long Beach do a lot of car loading but Green River not so much.
I presume when you say tanks that you mean tanker cars. The purpose of this kind of procedure is to break the train into parts that go to different locations. If the tankers originated at a chemical plant that train might have 100 tanker cars but not all of them are going to the same destination so that requires the train to be broken up into smaller sections with the different sections being formed into new trains with new destinations. There are a number of ways this is done: first, the most efficient and least expensive approach would be to build a hill in the yard and then drive a train with many cars to the hill so that when uncoupled the cars can roll down the hill and individually be diverted to separate track sections, often arranged in a bowl. Such an arrangement can handle about 8 cars per minute; a second approach as used here is to make use of a small elevation difference and then have the train backup for each of the separate car groups that go to different areas to be assembled into new trains as needed. I think you can see from this video that the rate this happens is a lot slower than a true 'hump yard' as mentioned above. So, instead of handling about 8 cars per minute this is more like 2 cars per minute or less -- much more labor intensive and thus more expensive. If there is no hill then the diverting action is going to be even slower and more labor intensive -- and expensive.
Not sure of the brakes thing but hump yards use this technique all the time. You are right that the air brakes would normally activate IF there is pressure in the tank AND the pressure is below the "full" level. So, I don't know exactly how that's done.
@@Raptorman0909 Manually release the air brake on each wagon/car by pulling the release cord on the brake distributor, or triple valve. This releases the automatic air brake for shunting/switching purposes...
There is no hump at this yard. They are just pulling pins at speed and letting the cars drift into the various tracks. When switching like this the air is bled out so they don't have air brakes active, they'll roll down the slight grade and couple into the cars already in the tracks where the cars at the far end have some hand brakes tied to keep them from going anywhere.
@@spencerhansen8374 It's not a full on hump yard, but they do use gravity to mix the bowl. There is about 3-4m drop and that's where they unhook the cars. It's not a sheer drop, more like a gradual slope they can use to keep the separated cars moving. If they use gravity to assist with the separation of the cars and to run them into newly forming consists, or parts of them, then they are using the principle of a hump yard. It's a bit hump and a bit the engine doing this.
Very common at Green River to have deer going through the yard. They're all over the yards and streets just north of the station office as well(during certain times of the year at least).
Coupling will give the loud bang but slack roll will give a softer clang and, like this one can sound like a roll up door as the slack moves through several cars.
Becoming more and more common now. The problem we face leaving Green River is a set of mile long tunnels above Evanston and the longer trains often lose contact with the rear of train device, don't have enough power to do more than 12-15 mph up the 10 mile steep slope. Stalling at the tunnels is a big deal and the power units aren't being maintained very well since the the layoffs a few years ago so any problems at that spot and trains don't make it over the mountain.
@ 10:28... any idea what they were doing … didn't quite make sense... twice they let some cars go but both times they pulled the pin on two cars both going in the same track... that's odd... why not just let all four go at once
It's a switch crew & a couple trainees. They are learning how to kick through their list. One new guy is pulling pins, while the other new guy down the lead is throwing switches. All trainees must be kept within arm's reach of an experienced employee.
IF what you say is true about the trainees then they should be taught to just follow the list as it's marked and not confuse them anymore than they already are... also if this yard wants to get trains made up in a timely manner then I certainly hope that any rules about how many cars roll free at a time include more than letting JUST two cars go... (but who knows... with precision scheduled railroading wouldn't surprise me if this yard is almost closed up now anyway)
@@25mfd What I say is, in fact, more-or-less, highly likely to be true. True, I wasn't there, didn't talk to those fellows, didn't call up UP to ask, "wtf is going on up there in Green River, guys?" Green River terminal is actually UP's single biggest cash cow, system wide. Figure that one out lol. Precision railroading lmao.
extreme nostalgia, enough to make a grown person cry.
Aw thanks so much. My husband is up there for work right now and I'm trying to visualize the towns and their layouts.
🎆 happy new year!
I listen to this to fall asleep some days. I grew up beside a train yard so these are the sounds of growing up. I've since moved away and on nights that I can't sleep this is so comforting and soothing.
You just can't beat Western railroading. Great video!
Thanks, yeah this is one of my most popular videos -- hard to know sometimes what people will like.
Thanks for this excellent video. The whole experience is "a million miles" from my daily life, so it's a great escape for me to watch and listen to this.
Beautiful day outside
Nice Picture
Pretty Trains
Fascinating. It's like watching someone pressure-washing; so satisfying.
This is the most realistic HO train layout I have ever seen!!
Yes, I spared no expense!
Oh man! You guys have to be playing the sarcasm card to hard!
You even added little moving spots to simulate humans. Amazing work.
This sound is my childhood..
Why are trains so mesmerizing? Am I just strange?
There is something magical about trains -- as a young boy they awe us and that feeling never really goes away...
Yes, Green River is a photogenic spot for UP railroading. Thumbs up!
Thanks, yeah I first discovered Green River in 2004 while traveling around the USA in my RV. At the time I was more interested in the interesting sandstone formations and Flaming Gorge, but then I found this yard and the bridge of the river. Great place for sure.
Thanks so much for sharing this fantastic video of the U.P. yard at Green River! Videos such as yours help me to capture "the feel" for that area, which I am modeling. The pedestrian bridge is a great place from which to do railfanning, isn't it? And the U.P. depot certainly is the most prominent railroad structure, both at Green River and on my layout. It was really fun watching this video. ...Roy
Thanks again Roy. Are you modeling the Green River yard?
Yes, I am, my friend. I'm modeling the U.P. Evanston Subdivision, or rather, portions of it, including Green River, Evanston, and Echo Canyon in N scale. Here's the link to my RUclips channel: ruclips.net/channel/UC6bAJSz60lH7Eb_THff_xfw.
I also have a Facebook group. Here's the link to that group: facebook.com/groups/724442657753901/.
Go on over and check it out.
Roy
Every angle of the camera has a nice backdrop! Great video!
Green River Yard I been there a few times it is an amazing place.
So awesome... Nice scenery!
Nice capture
Nice Country, thanks for sharing.
Yes, Green River Wyoming is some nice country for sure and the history of the railroad goes back 150 years there.
Nice video thank you
How long was that train at the start it felt like it was never-ending. Absolutely blows my mind [being from the UK] how long some of these trains are and how they don't get pulled apart.
I'm not sure on the precise length of any of these trains, but the typical length of freight trains in the western USA is about 1.3 miles or 2.1km though there are exceptions in both directions. In many parts of Europe all trains are powered by overhead wires, but in the great expanse of the American west that's impractical so the trains are powered by diesel-electric locos in the range of 4400hp (3300kW) each and, depending on the terrain, they might have as few as three engines or over six of them.
The stretch of line shown in this video has significant elevation difference east towards Cheyenne and west towards Ogden. It is in this stretch from Cheyenne to Ogden that, prior to diesel, the UP used the largest steam engines on the planet, engines like the famous Big Boy 4014. Back in 2019 the Big Boy, having been reclaimed from display and refurbished, went on a tour to celebrate the 150 anniversary of the completion of the RR west to California -- I was unaware of the trip and missed it sad-to-say.
Here's a link to a video of that trip in 2019, it's not my video and there are numerous others -- I love the crowds that gathered to watch history roll by. ruclips.net/video/JlFEuRcprEY/видео.html
I had to adjust the exposure quite a bit as the Sun was in and out of the clouds and the light level kept changing. I was also pretty cold -- a bit below freezing.
Enjoyed the video. I would like to see how the containers are loaded on to the train.
I don't think they do much car loading at Green River, as trains arrive they either pass thru as is or it stops so some of the cars can be removed and stored until needed when another train (consist) is created. Green River isn't near any major city or industrial area, just a stop on the UP line. Places like Long Beach do a lot of car loading but Green River not so much.
@@Raptorman0909 thank you for the information.
@@mohamedmohideen8475if you want to see how the containers are loaded onto the well cars, look up videos of the port of Oakland
Nice footage. Do you have anything from Cheyenne? Subscribed.
No, I rolled past there in 2004 but didn't have any video gear then. North Platte is not too far away either.
Grate video....
Why are the last 2 tanks divided into different parts? 🤔
I presume when you say tanks that you mean tanker cars. The purpose of this kind of procedure is to break the train into parts that go to different locations. If the tankers originated at a chemical plant that train might have 100 tanker cars but not all of them are going to the same destination so that requires the train to be broken up into smaller sections with the different sections being formed into new trains with new destinations. There are a number of ways this is done: first, the most efficient and least expensive approach would be to build a hill in the yard and then drive a train with many cars to the hill so that when uncoupled the cars can roll down the hill and individually be diverted to separate track sections, often arranged in a bowl. Such an arrangement can handle about 8 cars per minute; a second approach as used here is to make use of a small elevation difference and then have the train backup for each of the separate car groups that go to different areas to be assembled into new trains as needed. I think you can see from this video that the rate this happens is a lot slower than a true 'hump yard' as mentioned above. So, instead of handling about 8 cars per minute this is more like 2 cars per minute or less -- much more labor intensive and thus more expensive. If there is no hill then the diverting action is going to be even slower and more labor intensive -- and expensive.
@@Raptorman0909 Thankyou so much 🙏
So how does the hump work? I always thought that if the cars where uncoupled the air brakes would prevent them from rolling.
Not sure of the brakes thing but hump yards use this technique all the time. You are right that the air brakes would normally activate IF there is pressure in the tank AND the pressure is below the "full" level. So, I don't know exactly how that's done.
@@Raptorman0909 Manually release the air brake on each wagon/car by pulling the release cord on the brake distributor, or triple valve. This releases the automatic air brake for shunting/switching purposes...
There is no hump at this yard. They are just pulling pins at speed and letting the cars drift into the various tracks. When switching like this the air is bled out so they don't have air brakes active, they'll roll down the slight grade and couple into the cars already in the tracks where the cars at the far end have some hand brakes tied to keep them from going anywhere.
@@Raptorman0909Every car has a brake release valve on it so the cars can be switched.
@@spencerhansen8374 It's not a full on hump yard, but they do use gravity to mix the bowl. There is about 3-4m drop and that's where they unhook the cars. It's not a sheer drop, more like a gradual slope they can use to keep the separated cars moving. If they use gravity to assist with the separation of the cars and to run them into newly forming consists, or parts of them, then they are using the principle of a hump yard. It's a bit hump and a bit the engine doing this.
Can you film this area again.
Is this yard open to the public? Do I have to apply for a permit for visit?
You can't enter the yard itself but the bridge over the yard is open to the public and it is from there that I did most of my filming.
5:30 deer in the middle of the yard! Look above the two rail employees.
not uncommon for the wildlife to snack on spilled grain that leaks from the railcars
Very common at Green River to have deer going through the yard. They're all over the yards and streets just north of the station office as well(during certain times of the year at least).
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Can anyone tell me what that sound was at 26:00-26:01? It sounded like a shotgun or something. It sure didnt sound like couplers coupling.
I believe that was the engine backing a little and the cars behind it rebounding to the other side of the coupler slack.
Izumi Shion it was the sound of the slack rolling out on the cut of cars, they move as the noise happens.
Coupling will give the loud bang but slack roll will give a softer clang and, like this one can sound like a roll up door as the slack moves through several cars.
Does the UP run 175-200 car trains?
I just filmed a 223 grain car by UP yesterday. It was in Verdi, Nevada heading eastbound. It's my only video on my RUclips page.
Becoming more and more common now. The problem we face leaving Green River is a set of mile long tunnels above Evanston and the longer trains often lose contact with the rear of train device, don't have enough power to do more than 12-15 mph up the 10 mile steep slope. Stalling at the tunnels is a big deal and the power units aren't being maintained very well since the the layoffs a few years ago so any problems at that spot and trains don't make it over the mountain.
@ 10:28... any idea what they were doing … didn't quite make sense... twice they let some cars go but both times they pulled the pin on two cars both going in the same track... that's odd... why not just let all four go at once
Good question and I have no idea...
It's a switch crew & a couple trainees. They are learning how to kick through their list. One new guy is pulling pins, while the other new guy down the lead is throwing switches. All trainees must be kept within arm's reach of an experienced employee.
There may also be rules about how many cars roll free at a time. Some haz mat has restrictions on switching moves.
IF what you say is true about the trainees then they should be taught to just follow the list as it's marked and not confuse them anymore than they already are... also if this yard wants to get trains made up in a timely manner then I certainly hope that any rules about how many cars roll free at a time include more than letting JUST two cars go... (but who knows... with precision scheduled railroading wouldn't surprise me if this yard is almost closed up now anyway)
@@25mfd What I say is, in fact, more-or-less, highly likely to be true. True, I wasn't there, didn't talk to those fellows, didn't call up UP to ask, "wtf is going on up there in Green River, guys?" Green River terminal is actually UP's single biggest cash cow, system wide. Figure that one out lol. Precision railroading lmao.
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米国の長い列車のほとんどは約1.3マイルまたは2.1kmに達しますが、それよりはるかに長い列車もあります。最大で約2.8マイルまたは4.5kmです。 このビデオに記録された列車はどれも2.1kmをはるかに超えていたとは思いません。 アメリカの旅客列車は日本の旅客列車よりはるかに短いです。
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Magnification pl.
Is this free to use?
You can't enter the yard, but there is a pedestrian bridge that I used to shoot the video. The bridge is open to the public.
@@Raptorman0909 no I meant can I use the sounds from that video for RUclips videos lol
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