That was actually a good debate. I am totally biased, and I thought they both did a great job. Both made interesting points and I heard "new" arguments from the christian side.
C'mon, Dinesh. GOD, I hate this guy's inability to debate. At 22:17, Abraham Lincoln didn't free the slaves because it was his moral imperative. He freed them when he realized that the south was winning, and that there was a ready-made pool of soldiers, ready, willing and eager to take up arms against their captors, and their captors' defenders. Yes, Lincoln was anti-slavery. And rightfully so. But had he felt so strongly about freeing the slaves, he would have done that long before 3 years into his presidency, don't you think? Sorry, Dinesh. Hard as it is to accept, Lincoln used the slaves as a political tool, and it turned the tide of the Civil War. And by the way, at that time, it was also the right decision. But it had nothing to do with the Christian way of thinking. Nothing.
“Kill for the lord”? “Kill doctors”??? Really?? Why do you think Christianity is against abortion in the first place? Shermer is contradicting himself.
YOU WILL MEET THE AUTHOR OF THE HOLY BIBLE IN THE WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT (SEE REVELATION 20) -- HIS NAME IS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST, AND THERE IS NO SECOND CHANS TO REPENT AND WORSHIP HIM. YOU DIED IN YOUR SINS, AND SATAN DECEIVED YOU. WAKE UP AND CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS TO SAVE YOUR LOST SOUL !!
YOU WILL MEET THE AUTHOR OF THE HOLY BIBLE IN THE WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT (SEE REVELATION 20) -- HIS NAME IS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST, AND THERE IS NO SECOND CHANS TO REPENT AND WORSHIP HIM. YOU DIED IN YOUR SINS, AND SATAN DECEIVED YOU. WAKE UP AND CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS TO SAVE YOUR LOST SOUL !!
John Stewart You speaking for this imaginary been in your 🤕 head. Imaginary been never ever speak for itself. Always in people heads only in people heads.
@@anthonymarlowe6986 God in the Psalms is the "all-satisfying object." His people adore Him unashamedly for the "exceeding joy" they find in Him (Psalm 43:4). He is the source of complete and unending pleasure: "In thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore" (Psalm 16:11). God is the end of our search, not the means to some further end. Our exceeding joy is He, the Lord Jesus Christ - not the streets of gold or any blessing of heaven. God commands that we find joy in loving God. I do not come to the Bible with a hedonistic theory of moral justification. On the contrary, I find in the Bible a divine command to be a pleasure-seeker - that is, to forsake the two-bit, low-yield, short-term, never-satisfying, person-destroying, God-belittling pleasures of the world and to sell everything "with joy" (Matthew 13:44) in order to have the Kingdom of Heaven and thus "enter thou into the joy of thy Lord" (Matthew 25:23). Virtue consists essentially in pleasure seeking. The reason I come to this conclusion is to "love mercy," not just do it (Micah 6:8), to do "acts of mercy, with cheerfulness" (Romans 12:8), to "joyfully" suffer loss (Hebrews 10:34), to be a "cheerful" giver (II Corinthians 9:7), to make "our joy" the joy of others (II Corinthians 2:3), to feed the flock of God willingly and "of a ready mind" (I Peter 5:2), and to keep watch over souls "with joy" (Hebrews 13:17). When you reflect long and hard on such amazing commands, the moral implications are stunning. The pursuit of true virtue includes the pursuit of the joy because joy is an essential component of true virtue by Jesus Christ.
@@sydnar347 You speaking for this imaginary been in your head. Who never existed makes you feel powerful never ever speak for itself but only in people heads always in their heads Sydnar it you who talk crap imaginary been.
Is Christianity Good for America? No
Religion is bad for humans.
That was actually a good debate. I am totally biased, and I thought they both did a great job. Both made interesting points and I heard "new" arguments from the christian side.
C'mon, Dinesh. GOD, I hate this guy's inability to debate. At 22:17, Abraham Lincoln didn't free the slaves because it was his moral imperative. He freed them when he realized that the south was winning, and that there was a ready-made pool of soldiers, ready, willing and eager to take up arms against their captors, and their captors' defenders. Yes, Lincoln was anti-slavery. And rightfully so. But had he felt so strongly about freeing the slaves, he would have done that long before 3 years into his presidency, don't you think? Sorry, Dinesh. Hard as it is to accept, Lincoln used the slaves as a political tool, and it turned the tide of the Civil War. And by the way, at that time, it was also the right decision. But it had nothing to do with the Christian way of thinking. Nothing.
For the lucrative mafioso religious guy this is a good business according to every religious regardless of the truth and it is tax free.
“Kill for the lord”?
“Kill doctors”???
Really?? Why do you think Christianity is against abortion in the first place?
Shermer is contradicting himself.
because they cant think for themselves?
Even early christian writings condemn abortion.
YOU WILL MEET THE AUTHOR OF THE HOLY BIBLE IN THE WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT (SEE REVELATION 20) -- HIS NAME IS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST, AND THERE IS NO SECOND CHANS TO REPENT AND WORSHIP HIM. YOU DIED IN YOUR SINS, AND SATAN DECEIVED YOU. WAKE UP AND CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS TO SAVE YOUR LOST SOUL !!
God commits abortions in the bible ffs
@@johnstewart4350 Down voted for unhinged gibberish
YOU WILL MEET THE AUTHOR OF THE HOLY BIBLE IN THE WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT (SEE REVELATION 20) -- HIS NAME IS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST, AND THERE IS NO SECOND CHANS TO REPENT AND WORSHIP HIM. YOU DIED IN YOUR SINS, AND SATAN DECEIVED YOU. WAKE UP AND CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS TO SAVE YOUR LOST SOUL !!
John Stewart You speaking for this imaginary been in your 🤕 head. Imaginary been never ever speak for itself. Always in people heads only in people heads.
@@anthonymarlowe6986 God in the Psalms is the "all-satisfying object." His people adore Him unashamedly for the "exceeding joy" they find in Him (Psalm 43:4). He is the source of complete and unending pleasure: "In thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore" (Psalm 16:11).
God is the end of our search, not the means to some further end. Our exceeding joy is He, the Lord Jesus Christ - not the streets of gold or any blessing of heaven. God commands that we find joy in loving God. I do not come to the Bible with a hedonistic theory of moral justification.
On the contrary, I find in the Bible a divine command to be a pleasure-seeker - that is, to forsake the two-bit, low-yield, short-term, never-satisfying, person-destroying, God-belittling pleasures of the world and to sell everything "with joy" (Matthew 13:44) in order to have the Kingdom of Heaven and thus "enter thou into the joy of thy Lord" (Matthew 25:23).
Virtue consists essentially in pleasure seeking. The reason I come to this conclusion is to "love mercy," not just do it (Micah 6:8), to do "acts of mercy, with cheerfulness" (Romans 12:8), to "joyfully" suffer loss (Hebrews 10:34), to be a "cheerful" giver (II Corinthians 9:7), to make "our joy" the joy of others (II Corinthians 2:3), to feed the flock of God willingly and "of a ready mind" (I Peter 5:2), and to keep watch over souls "with joy" (Hebrews 13:17).
When you reflect long and hard on such amazing commands, the moral implications are stunning. The pursuit of true virtue includes the pursuit of the joy because joy is an essential component of true virtue by Jesus Christ.
All preaching and no evidence.... As usual. JUST SHOUT AT PEOPLE JOHN THATLL CONVINCE THEM...MAYBE IF YOU HAD ANY EVIDENCE IT MIGHT HELP
Do the all caps make you feel powerful?
@@sydnar347 You speaking for this imaginary been in your head. Who never existed makes you feel powerful never ever speak for itself but only in people heads always in their heads Sydnar it you who talk crap imaginary been.
That religious jumbo is lucrative infected wrong