Adding a million driver aids/assists so the car basically does all the work for you and they have absolutely no soul or character. It's a thing most new cars seem to do. I don't like it.
The thing I noticed the most when I had the car to test was that it just seemed to make everyone happy. I got compliments all week long, especially up in the mountains by people who knew cars. Didn't matter what their scenes were, they thought the Mach 1 was cool. It definitely strikes a chord with people. Enjoyed your take on it, man. You're a legend. 👍🏻
I call BS o n Ford's statement. Most car reviewers are youtubers these days and you definitely won't be taken seriously as a journalist on youtube if you can't even drive manual
@@aaronmcconkey1062 you are part of the problem. there's a reason that an active offensive is being mounted to keep manuals. it's not for you guys. its for the little guy, the few who still like and enjoy it. Why be a selfish asshole? You want a minority to suffer? that's exactly what you just said.
I'm a Mach 1 fan, I own a '71 and '04 Mach 1. I like the new Mach 1, it's kept a true mach by being a parts bin car, or "greatest hits" as you put it. I am mildly disappointed that Ford didn't go with some sort of ram air system though. Or at least some kind of obviously unique design that isn't just stickers.
The GT350 is that hot chick you meet at the club, and she's only good for a few dates. You can't really trust her, she's unreliable. The Mach 1 is the hot chick you meet at school, and you wife up to have a family. She's reliable.
Have to disagree with you. Mach 1 is a spiritual successor to all the previous Mach 1s… Lol. The Boss, Mach and Shelby lineups come and go in cycles rather than replace each other.
“I think car guys like us sometimes like to change things just to change them like to right to feel like we’re improving but even though maybe we won’t “ such a good overall of us
Probably a move to maintain the Mach 1 moniker. The last Mach 1 was in 2004 while the last Boss was in 2014. Ford lost the GT40 moniker because they never did anything with it and Sapphire Engineering scooped it up without having to pay a dime and when Ford rolled out the 2nd gen GT and wanted to use GT40 and Sapphire kindly asked Ford to cough up a big chunk of money to use the GT40 moniker.
I remember the markups on the 03 Mach 1's when they came out. It put them into Terminator territory which was ridiculous. I knew someone that bought one around MSRP and I am sure there were deals out there, but not in my area.
I think they did a great job on the Mach 1. I have an 18 PP2 and they added the few things I thought were missing. The Tremec transmission and diff/transmission coolers. I’m sure the chassis is tuned even better. I’m indifferent about the power plant. The voodoo is great in its own right for obvious reasons. On the other hand, the coyote is great too; it has lots of bottom end power for the street and it’s reliable. This is a mustang for enthusiasts that can appreciate how refined they were able to make the s550. Anyone else will say it just has new stickers. Maybe the next gen mustang will give everyone the “wow” factor they are looking for.
I flew to New Hampshire last weekend and bought a FJG handling package and drove it home down the east coast for 550 miles. I can confirm people lost their mind when they saw it. At gas stations and just going down the road.
All that's left is the Voodoo in front of the DCT and the supercharged 5.2 in front of the Tremec. We can call one of them the 2023 Cobra R. Maybe a Boss 429 label?
Very fair review - I've owned my Mach 1 now since late May. I have the manual transmission and Recaro seats (which isn't the easiest to get in and out of but comfortable). You are right about the head turning and comments. I have people on the road screaming 'nice car'. I'm enjoying the Mach 1 very much.
I loved my 18 GT350 unfortunately the motor dropped at 9k miles so Ford bought it back under lemon law and I used the refund to pay down my mortgage. I’m taking delivery of a new 2022 Camaro 2SS with the 1LE track package next week though so I’m excited.
@@k-rod2453 don’t get me wrong I loved the car and it was amazing but damn I’ve never had that many issues with something that expensive, I owned it for a year and it was in the shop for 3 months of that year.
@@bombproofrazorSory to hear you had issues with your GT350, I avoided them for the sketchy engine reliability and chassis. Purchased a 2019 SS 1LE instead and couldn't be happier. SS 1LE is an amazing car and very underappreciated. The GM Alpha chassis is much better than any mustang, I noticed this on my test drive (drove 350 the same day and general area) and have never regretted going with 1LE. Congratulations and enjoy!
Not sure, my first time ordering a vehicle. With the way things have been for the last 18 months, who knows? If it's anytime before Christmas, I'll be happy, happy, happy!
I kinda get this vibe that we're looking at an early version of what the s650 will be. Kinda like how the s550 took some engineering elements from the boss 302. The s650 will take a lot of elements from this car.
Really good point about purchasing performance vehicles for a channel when in reality they come so well equipped it wouldn’t make sense replace OEM parts for video content. Hit the nail on the head.
i have this same mach 1 color and everything with the tremec traded my for 2018 gt for it. added the gurney flap and change the rims color to black and its now a beautiful monster 🔥
I love the Mach 1. It has the amazing, reliable, and tunable coyote engine paired with a durable tremec manual transmission. It looks great and comes with parts that were on the gt350. It was slightly less expensive and dealers weren’t charging mark ups I would’ve definitely bought one. But instead I decided to just order a 2022 GT to fit my budget. Can’t go wrong with any mustang gt. I was debating a used gen 1 voodoo gt350 but I did not want to deal with the oil consumption.
I love these special edition cars, especially Mustangs but I think id like this to be called Boss 302 more. I think its marketing strategy for Mach E to still be in eyes of people as Mustang. Also I miss GT350 a lot. I remember how excited and hyped I was when it came out, no car will do that anymore. I will never forget that huge Ford reveal of new Ford GT, Focus RS, Raptor, Fiesta ST and Shelby.
This car really does feel like a love letter to what made mustangs great, a celebration of the last 2 decades of growth and innovation. And a send-off to the traditional mustang.
@UCNMJh97D757akgqgLFC3tnQ i don’t see this as an attempt at at a second coming of the Terminator. The 03/04 Cobra is on a platform all on its own that no other Mustang in the modern area has come close to
Tbh I'm glad you drive the auto. I would consider eventually getting one and wanted to know how it compared to the regular GT since they said the 10 speed in the mach 1 was tuned differently. I really like the Mach 1 truthfully.
good review. i bought the Mach 1 with the Tremac and recarros, FJG, non HP. love it. the no lift shift and auto rev match is lots of fun. i don't feel as though i need to do any mods. it has such a great feel about it when you drive it. cheers
As a Japanese/German car owner, I actually really like the sound and styling of the newer Mustangs. Performance per dollar is impressive. I really wish these were 20% smaller and lighter, though.
That's because they are GT cars you can live with. I can fit me a friend and all of our issued gear in mine easily. They aren't meant for just pure performance.
@@MylesKillis Interesting theory, but the Mustang has the same trunk space cubic ft as my Cayman's front and rear trunk combined (14). The Mustang also has a back seat, but my RSX also has a back seat with combined 25 cubic ft storage with the seats folded down. I suspect Ford gives the Mustang a wider wheelbase to be more stable given the extra power and that big engine also attributes to the weight and hood length too.
@@DC5Brandon It’s pretty dumb to compare two smaller trucks to one larger truck because you can’t fit certain things into smaller trunks that you can fit in one large chunk. You’re also comparing multiple vehicles to one vehicle and then acting as if those other two different vehicles have the same strength
@@MylesKillis If I can carry all my gear on the trip, what does it matter which trunk it's in? I already said the Mustang is great because of it's value/performance. I'm a fan just like you, I'm just saying I value size over performance, that's all.
I think the Mach I is definitely an ultimate Mustang. One of the greatest, but I think the Shaker hood should have been an option if you wanted to check that box.
I loved your review, and if I could afford a new Mach 1, I'd have it as my daily. I purchased my 2019 GT-p as my first Mustang ever. I only feel feel the handling was lacking. That was resolved a bit with lowing springs and KONI Yellows. Would I purchase another? DUH!!! Keep up the great reviews, brother!
I’m incredibly sad that the GT350 is already gone. I LOVE the sound of that naturally aspirated 5.2, I hope it comes back somehow someday! Edit: I hope it comes back in something other than the GT500 ha.
half the news I'd read on the GT350 was engine problems or problems with warranty engine replacement. If the engine destroys itself it has to go. Not my call, but I understand why they don't hand out voodoo2 engines like candy when they break.
Being a HONDA guy my whole life, now that im older, i have to say, and Ive never thought id say this ever, but, I want a Mustang now! Theyre such beautiful cars
mach 1 with a hellion twin turbo kit and its a match made in heaven. Or a Whipple to get rid of the coyote lower end. Can keep it nice and reliable with 650whp or less or can go 900whp with support mods of course but capable. Making it the best coyote to modify while behind comfortable and great looking as well.
I was just on another car review channel and it felt weird because I could tell the reviewer wasn't an enthusiast, and he disliked things I thought were great. It was nice to come here and feel like "ahh this is how a review should be done".
I wasn’t about this model at first glance but you said it best David. It takes all the best factory parts in a turn key package. I might get hated on but I’d have it redone to be in just the gray color without the graphics on the exterior. Tint the windows, duckbill spoiler and rock it all day long.
I was really considering the Mach 1.. but knew it was going to get a pretty big dealer mark up, at least for a while, and then saw the price and was like.. sheesh! Well, I would of had to have it in the handling package, appearance package, etc, so the price really began to shoot up... Ended up ordering a new 21 ZL1 instead which seems like a bargain compared to what some dealers are selling Mach 1s for in some areas! Really like those wheels and the fighter jet paint scheme.
I disagree on the successor of the Boss 302. The 2012/2013 had way more development, it's own forged "roadrunner" engine, unique quad exhaust, and TONS of Boss 302 specific parts. When it came out it was declared "best mustang ever made" by many reviewers to include motor trend, motor week and Ford itself. The Mach 1 is very cool, it didn't have the special development like the Boss 302 had. I'm hoping Ford brings out another Boss 302.
The Boss was an evolution of what the S197 could be. It had a unique engine, suspension, exhaust, and exterior pieces. The Mach 1, unfortunately, is more of a parts bin special with some styling tweaks. The transmission is from the GT350, tires and suspension are from the PP2 (with subtle tweaks), engine from the Bullitt, and aero components from the GT500. Styling was the only thing Ford changed from existing parts. If it cost as much as the Bullitt, that'd be one thing. Unfortunately, it's priced like a Shelby
I have the new Mach 1. It is my first American Car. I love it and don't have the shaker madness. It's a treat to drive as is and the Folks at Ford were the best to deal with as well.
Little bit of trivia for ya…. Every 2015+ Mustang has line-lock. It’s just disabled. You need 3 Firmware Files and FORScan to to enable it. I did it on my 2017 Procharged V6 (3.7). 🙌🏼 Every model has Drive Modes as well. You have to upgrade to the Sync3 system to get the mode toggle. I enabled them as well.
They really need to put that voodoo engine in another mustang. High revving V8s are so rare and awesome. High revving engines are just going away in general with all the forced induction, and I get it, but when someone has a chance to keep it alive, they should.
@@stephenmoore1541 yeah, they unfortunately aren't the most reliable nor are they great as a daily driver, especially compared to the Coyote Mustangs. They're definitely nowhere near BMW V10 levels of unreliable, but the Voodoo just simply isn't as robust as the Coyote.
@@stephenmoore1541 hey listen don't just take my word for it. I'm not a Ford enthusiast I like mustangs and know alittle about a little but they may have fixed the issue or some performance shop might have. Ie 370z slave cylinders are trash ergo people complained about the issue and z1 motor sports made a solid bracket to hold slave in place and replace retaining pin no one complains after that fix. Focus rs got axed over wrong type of headgasket making head leak. Change headgasket no further issues. I encourage you to investigate if you really want the car.
Off the record really worked bro. I was doing 80 in a 40. The lawyer went to court and got my ticket deferred and all I had to do was not get another ticket for 3 months and I was clean. The ticket was $300 and I just paid that to the lawyer at the end 🙏
Crazy GM really changed the game when it comes to cars that handle well just about every manufacturer has their own iterations of GM's magnetic dampening suspension they most certainly do live up to that America's most Innovative car company statement
@ D.D. Henderson: Yeah, GM can be an amazing and innovative car company when they get it in gear and do something right. As your example shows. What gets me, is that they'll do something really smart and then follow it with something really stupid, maybe a whole bunch of really stupid things. I am a current 2013 Ford Mustang GT owner - but I was raised in a family that drove nothing but the 'General. I once owned a 1969 Pontiac Firebird convertible and a 1973 Olds Cutlass Sport with a "Rocket" 350 4v motor, and my older brother a 1967 Camaro 327 c.i. 4v hard-top. I want to like GM, I really do.... but I don't know which company I'm going to get - the smart and innovative one, or the dumb one which makes lots of unforced errors. Will the real GM please stand up? Oh, and as brilliantly as the current drive-train and suspension on the current Camaro is engineered, I still won't buy one until Dearborn changes that God-awful sheet metal and styling. Can't see out of 'em and it is as ugly as the back end of a horse.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 I'm a GM guy too. Raised up on Ford's until the local dealership screwed me in the 70's. My 1967 Oldsmobile 442 changed everything. Finally joined a high performance Buick club in the eighties. GM made the Rivieras too big in the seventies when they were planning to go midsize with it. Then came the HHR and made it too small, trying to save money, I guess. If it was on a midsized truck platform it would have been successful. You're right, Camaro's ugly.
GM is overall cheap and lazy when it comes to their “ normal” cars. But the Camaro and Corvette C8 is very impressive, sad to see the Camaro is dying again too.
But the manual transmission statement is true. That applies to many manual transmission owners hearing missed shifts when making a quarter-mile pass beside my daily driver, pure stock bracket racer. Considering just the suspension. Its a Faster Coyote powered GT350. The original 1969 Mach 1 which was my first new car before college. A new $3000 Red, underrated 351 Cleveland Mach 1 with a closed hood scoop setting on a black decal. 428 CJs and Boss Mustangs excluding the Boss 9 offered a vacuum shaker hood option on their carbureted engines. Not a throttle body engine. FYI. Average price including crappy cars is over $47000. This is a fantastic looking Mustang in a great package with the correct engine and if you can find one. Your starting around $53,000 but getting a Mustang on the extreme level of a GT350 that cost north of $65,000. You never mentioned it, but the 10R80 in the Mach 1 was modified by Ford for improved performance.
Except last time they did it, they actually made a car that was noticeably faster, had more valves per cylinder, and had defining characteristics like the shaker hood. The current Mach 1 just looks like a GT with some light plastic surgery and there’s hardly any difference in performance. The Mach 1 is a great car on its own, but when you put it alongside everything else in the mustang lineup, I have a hard time trying to figure out why they didn’t make more of an effort and make it more powerful, or more unique. It wouldn’t have been that hard.
@@sategllib2191 but it was still different enough to be in a league of its own. It was the only car in the mustang lineup with a shaker hood from the factory and made way more power than the GT while also not being as powerful as the cobra. This made each of the cars more unique and more deserving of their place in the lineup. The new Mach 1 is way too similar to the normal GT (both in looks and performance), so it’s really not worth the extra money you pay for it. Going back to my main point, if they were going to revive such an iconic mustang name, why not put in a little more effort and make it stand out more.
Awesome video as always 👍. I think Ford got a lot of things right on the new Mach1 and they got some things wrong. They definitely listened to the mustang owners and put together what we wanted in an awesome package. The killer is going to be the pricing point. At 53 grand you get a base Mach1 with cloth seats that looks more like a base eco interior. To get one like you had there with leather and nav with the auto your around 59 grand. Throw in the Recaro seats and now your over 60 grand. With the GT 350 it was a little easier to look at the car and swallow that kind of a price tag.
Ford has said that the shaker hood actually reduces aerodynamics on the car. I'd be willing to bet that those reductions are negligible and it should have been an option. Still, the very first offerings of the Mach 1, back in the day, didn't have shaker hoods either. Coilovers would probably last longer than the Magnarides. What would it cost to replace the Magnarides? If they stop making Magnarides, you're going to have to get coilovers anyway.
On the “Off The Record” subject. If you have a traffic ticket in Chattanooga Tennessee or surrounding area, and you’re like me and got it on a vacant road while keeping up with the car beside you, then I recommend Cavet Abott & Weiss. Ask for Mr Joshua Weiss and he’ll handle it start to finish. Got my misdemeanor ticket down to a 10 over(not telling the actual speed I was clocked at lol) with 30 days unsupervised probation and 2 days community service. Not bad considering my history lol. Point is, Mr Weiss is awesome. He’ll work miracles.
I mean its a great looking, sounding, and running car it looks like... but id rather they didn't discontinue the gt350. Thats my dream car😞 the gt350 was so iconic and is such a badass car
The hood can be fixed by after market if you want a different one. I believe they decided not to do it cause would have probably created more drag and the car doesn't need the extra air.
It didn't need a shaker. The shaker was a option on the 69-70 cars. Not available on the 76-78 cars. And the 03-04 cars are the only mach 1s to have a shaker as standard. I don't see that this one doesn't have it as that big of a issue.
Parts bin applies to the Dodge lineup. One thing about this fantastic Mustang. Ford used the correct parts. Here's what Motor Trend just wrote after testing both the GT350 and Mach 1 at VIR where the Mach 1 was faster. The new Ford Mustang Mach 1 is excellent, and it represents the tippy-top of the non-Shelby Mustangs-it essentially replaces the GT350. We've gone on record as saying it's "a GT350 with a lower redline"-high praise.
The shaker would have been nice to see incorporated, but seeing as it's not exactly practical for the modern Coyote motor, I can't be mad that it's missing. Aside from that, I think they did a great job with it. I'm glad the Voodoo 5.2 is reserved for the GT350 for the time being, as it retains that specific model's special factor. At the same time though, it's super dope that they gave the Mach 1 the tremac trans. I say kudos to Ford for another great limited edition run of a classic Mustang brought back to life. Also, I disagree that the revised Bullitt shouldn't have happened haha.
The Mach 1 reminds me of a good movie that had bad marketing. Ford released this at the end of a generation, so there really wasn’t a point in spending money like they did to market the Shelbies. That being said, I think this is the best S550 Mustang money can buy. You get the best parts from every model AND the reliability of the Coyote and Tremec. I’m so glad I was able to buy one of these at the very end of availability.
The mach 1 I had at my dealer had the manual and the second you put it in first you knew it was different and special compared to a regular mustang (I own a 20 a10 pp1) the difference between the 2 cars is instant the second you start driving.
8:27 I have one and a guy at the gas station went nuts. Standing there with his son swearing like crazy saying holy f*ck dude that thing is sweet, oh my god, he just kept going. You definitely lost out by not getting a 6 speed car to drive as it sounds totally different and the burbles and crackles on deceleration are pretty much what I love most. What really sets the Mach 1 apart is get it on a twisty road and it will leave a regular gt for dead.
i wish they would’ve gone with the pp2 wheels those are my favorite stock mustang wheels ever and i feel like this car would’ve benefited from those wheels greatly
since prices dropped on the mach 1 i'll totally buy it if i had the money, modify the exhaust and drive it around corners in the mountains or canyons around idaho, oregon or arizona...but with a truck i plan on selling soon i plan on getting a 5th gen camaro ss if the guy still has it or i might save up for a '11-14 or 15 mustang gt as my own personal goal
Coming from a person that doesn’t know how to drive a manual, I would NEVER say that I don’t want to learn how, manuals are freaking cool, when I saw people driving manual Camaros or Corvettes, or the GT350 on RUclips, I was hooked and I can’t wait to drive a manual, how dare they told you that there weren’t enough people that knew how to drive manual, sad, very very sad
What do you think is the weirdest sports car decision of all time?
Hmmm I actually don’t know 🤔
That they added the auto in the Mach 1
Adding a million driver aids/assists so the car basically does all the work for you and they have absolutely no soul or character. It's a thing most new cars seem to do. I don't like it.
Your title change, that’s what I think is weird. Lol
The Mach E if we can consider it a sports car decision
The thing I noticed the most when I had the car to test was that it just seemed to make everyone happy. I got compliments all week long, especially up in the mountains by people who knew cars. Didn't matter what their scenes were, they thought the Mach 1 was cool. It definitely strikes a chord with people. Enjoyed your take on it, man. You're a legend. 👍🏻
Wow just saw a c8 corvette throw a rod at the drag strip last night. So Chevy got issues too
I call BS o n Ford's statement. Most car reviewers are youtubers these days and you definitely won't be taken seriously as a journalist on youtube if you can't even drive manual
Hell i would not give a fuck what my subs or anybody thought of me. This comment is actually.... im glad manuals are dying.
@@aaronmcconkey1062 you are part of the problem. there's a reason that an active offensive is being mounted to keep manuals. it's not for you guys. its for the little guy, the few who still like and enjoy it. Why be a selfish asshole? You want a minority to suffer? that's exactly what you just said.
@@twrcrew8852 I like manuals, but I also dislike minorities. 😎
@@bloozism that makes zero sense. as a manual driver you ARE a minority?
@@twrcrew8852 no i'm talking about disliking non-whites.
I'm a Mach 1 fan, I own a '71 and '04 Mach 1. I like the new Mach 1, it's kept a true mach by being a parts bin car, or "greatest hits" as you put it. I am mildly disappointed that Ford didn't go with some sort of ram air system though. Or at least some kind of obviously unique design that isn't just stickers.
The 71-73 style hood would've been amazing on this body style. The shaker doesn't do it for me on the S550
@@chrisvela5462 I had a '73 Mach 1. That ram air setup was nice paired with the Moroso Nascar air filter.
*I like it, but I still miss the GT350.*
The GT350 is that hot chick you meet at the club, and she's only good for a few dates. You can't really trust her, she's unreliable. The Mach 1 is the hot chick you meet at school, and you wife up to have a family. She's reliable.
Considering the GT350s are blowing engines left and right. Anything more reliable would be a good successor
For real, my neighbor had to take his to ford 4 times for engine issues before he got tired of it and got a new edge cobra
odd never had any issues with mine, guess i had a unicorn
I haven't heard anything on that, are the voodoos really that bad
I haven’t heard that either. Sounds like a hater
Source on that? Have actually never heard of vodoo engines blowing up
Have to disagree with you. Mach 1 is a spiritual successor to all the previous Mach 1s… Lol. The Boss, Mach and Shelby lineups come and go in cycles rather than replace each other.
Agreed, the 1st mach 1 was mostly an appearance package over a GT anyway unless you optioned for a bigger motor.
@@bryanbusch6419 don’t forget it didn’t have that gt engine . Had a little more to offer than a gt appearance package .
@@THATNI99AJOHN Exactly, the previous Mach 1 had the hand built SVT engine under its unique shaker hood.
@@Sir.VicsMasher yes sir forged crank for the manual cars as well .
@@THATNI99AJOHN I was referring to the original (1969) mach 1. wayyyy predates the new edge
“I think car guys like us sometimes like to change things just to change them like to right to feel like we’re improving but even though maybe we won’t “ such a good overall of us
I've had the 2021 Mach 1 for a year-and-a-half now and I get compliments weekly. Such a fulfilling car.
The prices are decreasing for the base mach 1 rn its at 48k and its not even 4 years old. Ill get one once it hits 40k
Sounds like Boss 302 would be a better name for this
Probably a move to maintain the Mach 1 moniker. The last Mach 1 was in 2004 while the last Boss was in 2014. Ford lost the GT40 moniker because they never did anything with it and Sapphire Engineering scooped it up without having to pay a dime and when Ford rolled out the 2nd gen GT and wanted to use GT40 and Sapphire kindly asked Ford to cough up a big chunk of money to use the GT40 moniker.
Boss 302 would’ve been my pic
@@lealandyoung That makes sense. Good point
@@lealandyoung 2013
With options you're looking at mid $60k range for a new Mach 1. That's Hellcat price with 707hp, or a Camaro ZL1 with 650hp.
I’d just take the ZL1 for 60k. I feel like they overpriced the Mach 1
Used gtr would beat all listed above.
@@deborahdiperna2451 used zl1 would beat literally all mentioned so far
@@deborahdiperna2451 this actually lapped faster than the GT350R during the Car and Driver hop lap 2022
And after the dealer markup, it's also "just" $20,000 too expensive to be appealing
I remember the markups on the 03 Mach 1's when they came out. It put them into Terminator territory which was ridiculous. I knew someone that bought one around MSRP and I am sure there were deals out there, but not in my area.
This comment aged well lol.
Dealer markups are out of hand. Broncos are between 80-100k right now.
I think they did a great job on the Mach 1. I have an 18 PP2 and they added the few things I thought were missing. The Tremec transmission and diff/transmission coolers. I’m sure the chassis is tuned even better. I’m indifferent about the power plant. The voodoo is great in its own right for obvious reasons. On the other hand, the coyote is great too; it has lots of bottom end power for the street and it’s reliable. This is a mustang for enthusiasts that can appreciate how refined they were able to make the s550. Anyone else will say it just has new stickers. Maybe the next gen mustang will give everyone the “wow” factor they are looking for.
I flew to New Hampshire last weekend and bought a FJG handling package and drove it home down the east coast for 550 miles. I can confirm people lost their mind when they saw it. At gas stations and just going down the road.
My dad bought one back in March and I absolutely love it, in my opinion it’s the perfect mustang for the price
All that's left is the Voodoo in front of the DCT and the supercharged 5.2 in front of the Tremec. We can call one of them the 2023 Cobra R. Maybe a Boss 429 label?
Very fair review - I've owned my Mach 1 now since late May. I have the manual transmission and Recaro seats (which isn't the easiest to get in and out of but comfortable). You are right about the head turning and comments. I have people on the road screaming 'nice car'. I'm enjoying the Mach 1 very much.
I loved my 18 GT350 unfortunately the motor dropped at 9k miles so Ford bought it back under lemon law and I used the refund to pay down my mortgage. I’m taking delivery of a new 2022 Camaro 2SS with the 1LE track package next week though so I’m excited.
The voodoo engine has huge reliability issues. Sold my 2016 because it used so much oil. 1 quart every 500 miles
@@k-rod2453 don’t get me wrong I loved the car and it was amazing but damn I’ve never had that many issues with something that expensive, I owned it for a year and it was in the shop for 3 months of that year.
@@bombproofrazorSory to hear you had issues with your GT350, I avoided them for the sketchy engine reliability and chassis. Purchased a 2019 SS 1LE instead and couldn't be happier. SS 1LE is an amazing car and very underappreciated. The GM Alpha chassis is much better than any mustang, I noticed this on my test drive (drove 350 the same day and general area) and have never regretted going with 1LE. Congratulations and enjoy!
Glad to see some seat time changed your mind. I can’t wait to get mine. The build date starts Nov 2nd. Fully optioned FJG manual without recaros.
Mine's November 1st. I've heard any cars built past November 1st aren't being shipped until March.
@@Nick-uw1pt I looked at the paperwork and it is Nov 1st after all. Hopefully it will be delivered by Christmas 🙏
@@nicholas3329 If it's being built the week of November 1st, shouldn't it be delivered by mid Novembe
Not sure, my first time ordering a vehicle. With the way things have been for the last 18 months, who knows? If it's anytime before Christmas, I'll be happy, happy, happy!
@@Nick-uw1pt Ford has pushed my date back a week to Nov 8th. Hopefully what you heard about the March shipping isn't true.😬
I kinda get this vibe that we're looking at an early version of what the s650 will be. Kinda like how the s550 took some engineering elements from the boss 302. The s650 will take a lot of elements from this car.
“The Mach 1 might have the best factory mustang exhaust I’ve even heard”
Gt350 and Gt500: “Am I a joke to you”
Ford GT's like "What about me then?"
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough he said best factory “MUSTANG” exhaust not Ford car lol
@@Yaboybash Oh did not catch that part...
Really good point about purchasing performance vehicles for a channel when in reality they come so well equipped it wouldn’t make sense replace OEM parts for video content. Hit the nail on the head.
i have this same mach 1 color and everything with the tremec traded my for 2018 gt for it. added the gurney flap and change the rims color to black and its now a beautiful monster 🔥
I love the Mach 1. It has the amazing, reliable, and tunable coyote engine paired with a durable tremec manual transmission. It looks great and comes with parts that were on the gt350. It was slightly less expensive and dealers weren’t charging mark ups I would’ve definitely bought one. But instead I decided to just order a 2022 GT to fit my budget. Can’t go wrong with any mustang gt. I was debating a used gen 1 voodoo gt350 but I did not want to deal with the oil consumption.
What options did you choose for your order?
@@ricardopalma3714 GT Premium with 401A and Recaro Seats.
I love these special edition cars, especially Mustangs but I think id like this to be called Boss 302 more. I think its marketing strategy for Mach E to still be in eyes of people as Mustang. Also I miss GT350 a lot. I remember how excited and hyped I was when it came out, no car will do that anymore. I will never forget that huge Ford reveal of new Ford GT, Focus RS, Raptor, Fiesta ST and Shelby.
This car really does feel like a love letter to what made mustangs great, a celebration of the last 2 decades of growth and innovation. And a send-off to the traditional mustang.
I don't dislike the Mach 1, but I love my Terminator Cobra a lot more....with a VMP GEN3R
You can never go wrong with a terminator cobra! That car is on my bucket list! I’m happy with my 03 Oxford white mach 1 and very much love my 96 cobra
I would take tht car over the new GT500. Don't ever get rid of it. Ever. Only thing COMPARABLE, not better is the gt350. It's everything about the 03
@@petrolhead8851 Was a bucket list car for me since 2003 and finally got one last summer
@@jewboy761 No plans to sell it, unless someone wants to give me $95,000 then I’ll let it go
@UCNMJh97D757akgqgLFC3tnQ i don’t see this as an attempt at at a second coming of the Terminator. The 03/04 Cobra is on a platform all on its own that no other Mustang in the modern area has come close to
The handling package on my Mach 1 is what makes it unique and fun to drive, you gotta drive the handling package cars. Totally different!
I can't be the only person who notices every time he steps on the accelerator, it puts a smile on his face. lol
Tbh I'm glad you drive the auto. I would consider eventually getting one and wanted to know how it compared to the regular GT since they said the 10 speed in the mach 1 was tuned differently. I really like the Mach 1 truthfully.
good review. i bought the Mach 1 with the Tremac and recarros, FJG, non HP. love it. the no lift shift and auto rev match is lots of fun. i don't feel as though i need to do any mods. it has such a great feel about it when you drive it. cheers
As a Japanese/German car owner, I actually really like the sound and styling of the newer Mustangs. Performance per dollar is impressive. I really wish these were 20% smaller and lighter, though.
Same. The cars look good and go fast, but they're massive. I was debating getting a new Mustang, but the size alone is making me hesitant.
That's because they are GT cars you can live with. I can fit me a friend and all of our issued gear in mine easily. They aren't meant for just pure performance.
@@MylesKillis Interesting theory, but the Mustang has the same trunk space cubic ft as my Cayman's front and rear trunk combined (14). The Mustang also has a back seat, but my RSX also has a back seat with combined 25 cubic ft storage with the seats folded down. I suspect Ford gives the Mustang a wider wheelbase to be more stable given the extra power and that big engine also attributes to the weight and hood length too.
@@DC5Brandon It’s pretty dumb to compare two smaller trucks to one larger truck because you can’t fit certain things into smaller trunks that you can fit in one large chunk. You’re also comparing multiple vehicles to one vehicle and then acting as if those other two different vehicles have the same strength
@@MylesKillis If I can carry all my gear on the trip, what does it matter which trunk it's in? I already said the Mustang is great because of it's value/performance. I'm a fan just like you, I'm just saying I value size over performance, that's all.
I think the Mach I is definitely an ultimate Mustang. One of the greatest, but I think the Shaker hood should have been an option if you wanted to check that box.
I loved your review, and if I could afford a new Mach 1, I'd have it as my daily. I purchased my 2019 GT-p as my first Mustang ever. I only feel feel the handling was lacking. That was resolved a bit with lowing springs and KONI Yellows. Would I purchase another? DUH!!! Keep up the great reviews, brother!
I’m incredibly sad that the GT350 is already gone. I LOVE the sound of that naturally aspirated 5.2, I hope it comes back somehow someday!
Edit: I hope it comes back in something other than the GT500 ha.
Not to mention it was also a flat plane crank, giving it more character
Rumor is supercharged 5.2 raptor next year
@@r6master69 fingers crossed!
half the news I'd read on the GT350 was engine problems or problems with warranty engine replacement. If the engine destroys itself it has to go. Not my call, but I understand why they don't hand out voodoo2 engines like candy when they break.
Being a HONDA guy my whole life, now that im older, i have to say, and Ive never thought id say this ever, but, I want a Mustang now! Theyre such beautiful cars
9:18 soul food 2 is a banger listening to both of em back to back is amazing
I feel like if I download the off the record app now I'm planning on getting a ticket and writing my destiny. I'll hit you up if it happens though!
mach 1 with a hellion twin turbo kit and its a match made in heaven. Or a Whipple to get rid of the coyote lower end. Can keep it nice and reliable with 650whp or less or can go 900whp with support mods of course but capable. Making it the best coyote to modify while behind comfortable and great looking as well.
Guy down the street from me has one of these and they are pretty cool. I’m not even a mustang fan lol
I was just on another car review channel and it felt weird because I could tell the reviewer wasn't an enthusiast, and he disliked things I thought were great. It was nice to come here and feel like "ahh this is how a review should be done".
I wasn’t about this model at first glance but you said it best David. It takes all the best factory parts in a turn key package. I might get hated on but I’d have it redone to be in just the gray color without the graphics on the exterior. Tint the windows, duckbill spoiler and rock it all day long.
Really glad you mentioned the pp2 love that spec, sad to see you showed a pp1 in the b roll lol
@Scott Munczenski Yea unfortunately I'm lucky enough to see & sometimes drive one everyday 8) my brother one and man does it have a presence!
@Scott Munczenski I’ve seen a decent amount in the Bay Area. They look mean as hell in person
I was really considering the Mach 1.. but knew it was going to get a pretty big dealer mark up, at least for a while, and then saw the price and was like.. sheesh! Well, I would of had to have it in the handling package, appearance package, etc, so the price really began to shoot up... Ended up ordering a new 21 ZL1 instead which seems like a bargain compared to what some dealers are selling Mach 1s for in some areas! Really like those wheels and the fighter jet paint scheme.
Rode in a manual Mach just today and it’s great. It feels pretty good in a straight line and turns fantastic but it has a sticking clutch pedal at WOT
I disagree on the successor of the Boss 302. The 2012/2013 had way more development, it's own forged "roadrunner" engine, unique quad exhaust, and TONS of Boss 302 specific parts. When it came out it was declared "best mustang ever made" by many reviewers to include motor trend, motor week and Ford itself. The Mach 1 is very cool, it didn't have the special development like the Boss 302 had. I'm hoping Ford brings out another Boss 302.
The Boss was an evolution of what the S197 could be. It had a unique engine, suspension, exhaust, and exterior pieces. The Mach 1, unfortunately, is more of a parts bin special with some styling tweaks. The transmission is from the GT350, tires and suspension are from the PP2 (with subtle tweaks), engine from the Bullitt, and aero components from the GT500. Styling was the only thing Ford changed from existing parts. If it cost as much as the Bullitt, that'd be one thing. Unfortunately, it's priced like a Shelby
One could almost be convinced they don’t make a manual Mach 1.
except they do? shares the transmission from the gt350
@@benpancake5118 I know they do. Just for some reason, nearly all the reviews I’ve seen of the car, 9/10 seem to be automatic.
I have the new Mach 1. It is my first American Car. I love it and don't have the shaker madness. It's a treat to drive as is and the Folks at Ford were the best to deal with as well.
The only thing that disappoints me is the lack of a shaker hood. Other than that this is an awesome ride!
A shaker hood won’t look good on this platform
I love the s550’s and can’t hear enough about them. Beautiful car! Could you talk about the cooled seats operation in one of your videos.
Little bit of trivia for ya…. Every 2015+ Mustang has line-lock. It’s just disabled. You need 3 Firmware Files and FORScan to to enable it. I did it on my 2017 Procharged V6 (3.7). 🙌🏼
Every model has Drive Modes as well. You have to upgrade to the Sync3 system to get the mode toggle. I enabled them as well.
They really need to put that voodoo engine in another mustang. High revving V8s are so rare and awesome. High revving engines are just going away in general with all the forced induction, and I get it, but when someone has a chance to keep it alive, they should.
Voodoo had a ton of problems with engines blowing up sadly. It's a shame it sounded amazing
@@hatch450sx3 aww man... That sucks, I didn't know that. Been thinking about reworking my budget and picking one up, so thanks for the heads up
@@stephenmoore1541 yeah, they unfortunately aren't the most reliable nor are they great as a daily driver, especially compared to the Coyote Mustangs. They're definitely nowhere near BMW V10 levels of unreliable, but the Voodoo just simply isn't as robust as the Coyote.
@@Briggsian bmw V10 🤣😂 I see you know your motors. I'm bummed voodoo had massive potential.
@@stephenmoore1541 hey listen don't just take my word for it. I'm not a Ford enthusiast I like mustangs and know alittle about a little but they may have fixed the issue or some performance shop might have. Ie 370z slave cylinders are trash ergo people complained about the issue and z1 motor sports made a solid bracket to hold slave in place and replace retaining pin no one complains after that fix. Focus rs got axed over wrong type of headgasket making head leak. Change headgasket no further issues. I encourage you to investigate if you really want the car.
Randy Tracked the Mach 1 and SS 1LE and ended up up running a quicker time with the Mach 1
Off the record really worked bro. I was doing 80 in a 40. The lawyer went to court and got my ticket deferred and all I had to do was not get another ticket for 3 months and I was clean. The ticket was $300 and I just paid that to the lawyer at the end 🙏
I’ll buy one of these in like 6 years lmao
Might get a good used one. Mustang owners get rid of their joints all the time.
Sure driven only on Sundays never tracked bahahah
Lolz same, already put a countdown timer on my phone in 5-6 years so i can afford it
In 6 years it will be 90k since everyone is going electric
Wow, you are soooo knowledgeable for someone born recently. I love your review. Such depth. Gripping.
Love the 10speed automatic
Crazy GM really changed the game when it comes to cars that handle well just about every manufacturer has their own iterations of GM's magnetic dampening suspension they most certainly do live up to that America's most Innovative car company statement
@ D.D. Henderson: Yeah, GM can be an amazing and innovative car company when they get it in gear and do something right. As your example shows. What gets me, is that they'll do something really smart and then follow it with something really stupid, maybe a whole bunch of really stupid things. I am a current 2013 Ford Mustang GT owner - but I was raised in a family that drove nothing but the 'General. I once owned a 1969 Pontiac Firebird convertible and a 1973 Olds Cutlass Sport with a "Rocket" 350 4v motor, and my older brother a 1967 Camaro 327 c.i. 4v hard-top. I want to like GM, I really do.... but I don't know which company I'm going to get - the smart and innovative one, or the dumb one which makes lots of unforced errors. Will the real GM please stand up?
Oh, and as brilliantly as the current drive-train and suspension on the current Camaro is engineered, I still won't buy one until Dearborn changes that God-awful sheet metal and styling. Can't see out of 'em and it is as ugly as the back end of a horse.
My 2011 Lacrosse CXS dust anything in it's class aroumd the corners even that weigh a couple 100lbs less. They do handling very well
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 I'm a GM guy too. Raised up on Ford's until the local dealership screwed me in the 70's. My 1967 Oldsmobile 442 changed everything. Finally joined a high performance Buick club in the eighties. GM made the Rivieras too big in the seventies when they were planning to go midsize with it. Then came the HHR and made it too small, trying to save money, I guess. If it was on a midsized truck platform it would have been successful. You're right, Camaro's ugly.
GM is overall cheap and lazy when it comes to their “ normal” cars. But the Camaro and Corvette C8 is very impressive, sad to see the Camaro is dying again too.
@@angelgjr1999 I agree only their v8 cars are good
I don’t think it needs a shaker hood. The 71-73 Mach 1s had to NASA 2 scoop style hood. I think that style would have looked good on an S550.
But the manual transmission statement is true. That applies to many manual transmission owners hearing missed shifts when making a quarter-mile pass beside my daily driver, pure stock bracket racer. Considering just the suspension. Its a Faster Coyote powered GT350. The original 1969 Mach 1 which was my first new car before college. A new $3000 Red, underrated 351 Cleveland Mach 1 with a closed hood scoop setting on a black decal. 428 CJs and Boss Mustangs excluding the Boss 9 offered a vacuum shaker hood option on their carbureted engines. Not a throttle body engine. FYI. Average price including crappy cars is over $47000. This is a fantastic looking Mustang in a great package with the correct engine and if you can find one. Your starting around $53,000 but getting a Mustang on the extreme level of a GT350 that cost north of $65,000. You never mentioned it, but the 10R80 in the Mach 1 was modified by Ford for improved performance.
Same mentality as the 03-04 Mach 1. Throw the good cheap parts together before the next gen comes out.
Except last time they did it, they actually made a car that was noticeably faster, had more valves per cylinder, and had defining characteristics like the shaker hood. The current Mach 1 just looks like a GT with some light plastic surgery and there’s hardly any difference in performance. The Mach 1 is a great car on its own, but when you put it alongside everything else in the mustang lineup, I have a hard time trying to figure out why they didn’t make more of an effort and make it more powerful, or more unique. It wouldn’t have been that hard.
@@jlim9411 mach1 engine was just the na cobras with a shaker
@@sategllib2191 but it was still different enough to be in a league of its own. It was the only car in the mustang lineup with a shaker hood from the factory and made way more power than the GT while also not being as powerful as the cobra. This made each of the cars more unique and more deserving of their place in the lineup. The new Mach 1 is way too similar to the normal GT (both in looks and performance), so it’s really not worth the extra money you pay for it. Going back to my main point, if they were going to revive such an iconic mustang name, why not put in a little more effort and make it stand out more.
I could listen to that exhaust note all day long!
I was surprised to see one at my very small town cars and coffee yesterday
I think the lines and body style is similar to a 71-73 Mach 1 and that model also does not have a shaker. I love the way both look!
Awesome video as always 👍. I think Ford got a lot of things right on the new Mach1 and they got some things wrong. They definitely listened to the mustang owners and put together what we wanted in an awesome package. The killer is going to be the pricing point. At 53 grand you get a base Mach1 with cloth seats that looks more like a base eco interior. To get one like you had there with leather and nav with the auto your around 59 grand. Throw in the Recaro seats and now your over 60 grand. With the GT 350 it was a little easier to look at the car and swallow that kind of a price tag.
There is just no way you should be considered an auto journalist if you can't drive manual. What a crazy response from the press fleet...
I miss my old 04 Mach. Had that car for 12 years.
Shaker hood scoop comes from the fact that the scoop was attached to the engine, not the hood, So as the engine would "shake" so would the scoop.
Ford has said that the shaker hood actually reduces aerodynamics on the car. I'd be willing to bet that those reductions are negligible and it should have been an option. Still, the very first offerings of the Mach 1, back in the day, didn't have shaker hoods either.
Coilovers would probably last longer than the Magnarides. What would it cost to replace the Magnarides? If they stop making Magnarides, you're going to have to get coilovers anyway.
I wish they had put in a crossplane 5.2 that revved out to around 8000 rpm and had around 500hp. That would have been more "special".
yea it would, i think ford secretly working on another mustang theyll bump up the hp with that one
Thank you for this review. This is the best one so far; I was waiting for this.
Should'a been called Boss5.2, with a 5.2L Coyote. Does Not Need a Shaker, but a GT500 vented hood would look awesome and just work.
Mach 1 ad Boss 302 are Iconic
On the “Off The Record” subject.
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I wasn't going to bring up the automatic issue but yeah thanks for the clarification lol
The best factory exhaust ever made is the Boss 302 barr-nunn
Nice video, look forward to reviewing my Mach1 in Australia when it gets here.
I mean its a great looking, sounding, and running car it looks like... but id rather they didn't discontinue the gt350. Thats my dream car😞 the gt350 was so iconic and is such a badass car
Nothing stopping you from buying a used one.
You can improve the magnetic ride suspension through special tuning from TPC Racing
So, in the end, which mustang would you buy today, a used GT350 like yours or a new Mach 1?
After watching about 5 of your videos. Just subscribed. Nice Reviews.
The hood can be fixed by after market if you want a different one. I believe they decided not to do it cause would have probably created more drag and the car doesn't need the extra air.
I really like the Mach1 but I wouldn’t trade it for a gt350. The 350 is amazing
It didn't need a shaker. The shaker was a option on the 69-70 cars. Not available on the 76-78 cars. And the 03-04 cars are the only mach 1s to have a shaker as standard. I don't see that this one doesn't have it as that big of a issue.
Just seen one of these at the Michigan WoodWard Cruise.
Parts bin applies to the Dodge lineup. One thing about this fantastic Mustang. Ford used the correct parts. Here's what Motor Trend just wrote after testing both the GT350 and Mach 1 at VIR where the Mach 1 was faster.
The new Ford Mustang Mach 1 is excellent, and it represents the tippy-top of the non-Shelby Mustangs-it essentially replaces the GT350. We've gone on record as saying it's "a GT350 with a lower redline"-high praise.
The shaker would have been nice to see incorporated, but seeing as it's not exactly practical for the modern Coyote motor, I can't be mad that it's missing. Aside from that, I think they did a great job with it. I'm glad the Voodoo 5.2 is reserved for the GT350 for the time being, as it retains that specific model's special factor. At the same time though, it's super dope that they gave the Mach 1 the tremac trans. I say kudos to Ford for another great limited edition run of a classic Mustang brought back to life. Also, I disagree that the revised Bullitt shouldn't have happened haha.
My man has the tunes and the mustang
The Mach 1 reminds me of a good movie that had bad marketing. Ford released this at the end of a generation, so there really wasn’t a point in spending money like they did to market the Shelbies. That being said, I think this is the best S550 Mustang money can buy. You get the best parts from every model AND the reliability of the Coyote and Tremec. I’m so glad I was able to buy one of these at the very end of availability.
I think the Need for Green mustang in 2019 attracts the most attention than any mustang ever lol
The mach 1 I had at my dealer had the manual and the second you put it in first you knew it was different and special compared to a regular mustang (I own a 20 a10 pp1) the difference between the 2 cars is instant the second you start driving.
8:27 I have one and a guy at the gas station went nuts. Standing there with his son swearing like crazy saying holy f*ck dude that thing is sweet, oh my god, he just kept going. You definitely lost out by not getting a 6 speed car to drive as it sounds totally different and the burbles and crackles on deceleration are pretty much what I love most. What really sets the Mach 1 apart is get it on a twisty road and it will leave a regular gt for dead.
Only thing I would do is lower it a tad and maybe possibly put the gt wing on it
i wish they would’ve gone with the pp2 wheels those are my favorite stock mustang wheels ever and i feel like this car would’ve benefited from those wheels greatly
since prices dropped on the mach 1 i'll totally buy it if i had the money, modify the exhaust and drive it around corners in the mountains or canyons around idaho, oregon or arizona...but with a truck i plan on selling soon i plan on getting a 5th gen camaro ss if the guy still has it or i might save up for a '11-14 or 15 mustang gt as my own personal goal
Funny everywhere calls the Mach 1 a parts bin car but the AC Cobra was a parts bin car too
Finally. Been waitin on your opinions on this thing
I think I would put a caul hood on it where those acent pieces are
Coming from a person that doesn’t know how to drive a manual, I would NEVER say that I don’t want to learn how, manuals are freaking cool, when I saw people driving manual Camaros or Corvettes, or the GT350 on RUclips, I was hooked and I can’t wait to drive a manual, how dare they told you that there weren’t enough people that knew how to drive manual, sad, very very sad
So.... the 350r used to be my favorite production mustang from recent years. This takes the cake, just needs the r wing