Depends on how you define best. Those where the old-school guys, the innovators, the people who mostly worked within functional programming (lambda calculus if you may). Today there are so many different styles and problems that I think the next generation of great computer scientists (better word informaticians) I think will be those trained in reasoning around algorithms with the language of informatics (discrete math, logic, linguistics, etc., all combined)! But you are right though!
Well, what I really need to say is that we don't need computer science. Today's CS people believe that they are the most brilliant beings and are usually arrogant and selfish. For a long time, I tried to understand why they behave like that. My conclusion is that they have to study too much and have no time to understand why they are doing this and that. They are copying mathematicians' ideas and claims "patents"!! I mean those "computer science people". Not von Neumann. :-))
He got his legs cut off at the knees by Roger Penrose who debunked Minsky's silly notion that computers running algorithms can ever generate consciousness. Godel and Turing both proved the idea impossible with classical computers. Minsky talked a good line but got called on his BS. And atheist's heads started exploding.
@@quantum_ocean Minsky said that consciousness is a sort of grab-bag word, a basket that people dump things they don't understand into. He thought that what most people call "consciousness' is really a group of 6 or 7 brain functions - no special category or mystery about it.
Rest In Peace, Marvin. We'll miss you.
That last part of what he said really buffles me.
Marvin showed me how to think.
Very interesting!
The problem with consciousness is not whether machines are conscious or not.
The problem is to tell whether anyone but me is conscious or not.
@@quantum_ocean Exactly! And what I think of as "the tyranny of everyday language" haunts both philosophy and science.
I need to read that! My dad used to tell me about the book, but I have completely forgotten about it. Just ordered it from Amazon! Thanks for the tip!
amazing stuff !!
we are the greatest machine of them all....... I would like to have one undredth of Minsky intelligence and knowledge. :-((
Minsky is just special
Depends on how you define best. Those where the old-school guys, the innovators, the people who mostly worked within functional programming (lambda calculus if you may). Today there are so many different styles and problems that I think the next generation of great computer scientists (better word informaticians) I think will be those trained in reasoning around algorithms with the language of informatics (discrete math, logic, linguistics, etc., all combined)! But you are right though!
good interview
RIP Douglas Bruce Lenat.
Minsky was the AI great thinker.
@HitchSlapYouSon How did you know? Even if you praise God, atonal music works. Rocks.
The best computer scientists are mathematicians. Minsky, John McCarthy , Don Knuth, etc. are all mathematicians.
Prediction is hard, especially predicting for the future. (What?)
Or even predicting your next thought (which is impossible!).
Not to mention Turing...
Minsky is awesome not just funny :))
This does not address the hard problem of consciousness, as David Chalmers would call it.
Are there any more talks of him when he was this young? Seems like he's lost the plot a bit in his later years.
lol his smart but im smarter
Well, what I really need to say is that we don't need computer science. Today's CS people believe that they are the most brilliant beings and are usually arrogant and selfish. For a long time, I tried to understand why they behave like that. My conclusion is that they have to study too much and have no time to understand why they are doing this and that. They are copying mathematicians' ideas and claims "patents"!! I mean those "computer science people". Not von Neumann. :-))
Get off my internet please.
He got his legs cut off at the knees by Roger Penrose who debunked Minsky's silly notion that computers running algorithms can ever generate consciousness. Godel and Turing both proved the idea impossible with classical computers. Minsky talked a good line but got called on his BS.
And atheist's heads started exploding.
@@quantum_ocean Minsky said that consciousness is a sort of grab-bag word, a basket that people dump things they don't understand into. He thought that what most people call "consciousness' is really a group of 6 or 7 brain functions - no special category or mystery about it.