I want you guys to read a comic called Totally awesome hulk issue 22, Weapon x Issue 7-13, Weapon H, Hulkverines and Savage Avengers 2022. And tell me what you think about it. And would you guys agree Weapon H should get his own movie or Tv Series. And he fights an evil version of Hulk or a big monster.
My one thing though is that she complains about man giving her grief her whole life, but completely puts aside Bruce’s emotions (abusive father and all) like his don’t mean anything. Remember he tried to take his own life!
It's not really explained in the MCU but is touched upon in the Ang Lee Hulk movie that the Hulk is another personality born of Bruce's childhood trauma from growing up with an extremely abusive father. Jennifer's didn't have that trauma or anywhere near the same levels of gamma exposure and therefore just transforms without losing her personality or intelligence.
@@hamhockbeans then look at the comics where the canon is also Bruce was abused as a child and his father killed his mother. It's not some weird movie theory it's pretty established canon and it makes a lot of sense. We have multiple Hulks, both in the comics and now in the MCU, and they aren't all like Bruce. There's a much larger range of Hulks in the comics but "turns into a rage monster" is not actually universal in the MCU or comics. That's a Bruce thing not a gamma powered transformation thing.
@@hamhockbeans Never said it was but, that movie didn't invent that backstory out of thin air. It was directly taken from the comics. I'm also well aware of the history of the character and it's creators, thanks.
Eric admitting he uses chop sticks for Cheetos and everyone else still like “it’s still stupid” was sooo funny to me 😂 just a genuine moment among friends lol
@@justincaviness Thor would probably say something along the lines of him going sex-less for like 200 years, so Steve being an 80-something virgin is no big deal.
I'm glad they showed Bruce's frustration. He finally felt that he might have someone who could understand his position, and his cousin just gets her Hulk form with none of the relative downsides he had to struggle with ever since he first turned, and it's upsetting. I do wish they'd confirm MCU Bruce's past, as we can have far more context as to all the trauma that did bring the Hulk identity to life. Plus, all that and throwing in that Tony and Natasha are dead, and I can only imagine that Bruce is just incredibly fed up with people he was close to either dying or not fully understanding just what the Hulk has meant for him for better or worse.
I think people complain too fast. Like you want them to explain Bruce's entire past in this one episode. How about wait a bit and see what direction they go with Bruce. To me it seemed like they were hinting at his past and would delve into it with time.
@@donemu9096 Not saying they need him to breakdown his entire life's trauma in a single episode, I'd like to see some acknowledgement since he apparently integrated Bruce and Hulk, so there had to be some level of understanding of his own trauma to finally get a hold of himself to the degree we see when he's "Smart Hulk". Hulk's only had one MCU movie, and he's since been relegated as an add-on for the rest of the MCU. He's gotten so much background growth that we only barely get to in this show, despite showing up directly in 6 movies. I'm just not satisfied with how poorly the MCU has treated Hulk, and I sorta hate that we had to wait for a spin-off show that isn't even primarily about him to even start getting context into all that he's been doing outside the films to better understand himself. That's fine if you think my complaining is too fast, but he's far past due.
The part in the women's restroom made me so happy! They really captured the essence of what its like to walk into the bathroom of a place that serves alcohol and be taken care of by other women.
@@conormurphy4328 A woman messed up in the restroom...be it a bar, restaurant, retail store...usually gets some amount of support when another woman walks in. As for being in a bar...alcohol fueled help really goes there.
What I really enjoyed is the exploration of Bruce’s trauma and how his life has been changed by “the other guy”. His smart hulk persona felt abrupt in endgame and I’m glad it’s given depth here. Also seems we are getting glimpses that Savage hulk may still be their and with the rumors of a WW hulk story coming to the mcu I can see it happening after this episode. Also love the dynamic he and Jen had this episode.
This! I think now Smart Hulk is much more likeable and understandable, it's also shown that he hasn't lost any of his previous force, wich was not explored in endgame
@@hamhockbeans Yea cuz Marvel fucking had to do it, and btw while this is good this is like the most minimal thing😂Obviously is a She Hulk show but yea
@@Sucmydack she never fucking belittled him what all she did was talk about her own shit men can be angry but women cant we are call disgusting names if we are with that being said nobody said men cant go they the same shit it's just went thru way more so you compare the two
I think we need to remember that Bruce said "the triggers are anger and fear," so when she's caught with those men during her second change, it's more likely that the trigger was fear more than anger- but it manifested as only anger simply because she "hulked out."
I think also it was the last thing she needed after a car crash, waking up in the middle of the moods and not knowing where the hell she is. No matter how good she is at controlling her anger I can’t blame her for losing it there
Its never dealt with or mentioned that, if she hadnt been blindsided by BB, she would have backhanded a guy into an early grave for being a bit creepy. That should at least be mentioned by BB when shes saying shes in complete control shouldnt it?
@@phr00tpie those guys weren’t just being creepy they were harassing her in a situation that was rapidly becoming scary right after she had literally been in a car accident, I would judge anyone who didn’t get mad in that situation
I really like this episode an Tatiana Maslany is amazing as Jen Walters. But what really suprised me was how much they allude to what's going on with Bruce. The way they hint at how much He misses Tony on the one hand. But more importantly that they show that the "hulk" or the transformation isn't his true problem - but his mental issues and a lot of unprocessed trauma that manifest in his Hulk persona
Hawkeye and She-Hulk definitely gave much depth to both the characters without a solo movie. And they could still play a big part in their protégé's movies.
I love how they perfectly show the differences between Bruce and Jens abilities in episode one. Bruce is stronger and smarter but Jen is so much faster and agile than Bruce. Its really great so it doesn't just feel like we're watching a female version of the hulk. She is A hulk but shes different enough to definitely feel unique
I think one of the best examples is the sonic clap scene. Hulk does one huge powerful clap. But while her claps booms are smaller she can clap multiple times in a row and overwhelm Bruce.
Dude, you're giving too much credit. It's pretty much cannon in every video game that the guy character's attacks/strength is greater but the female character is faster/more agile. It's like saying, "Maroon is a totally different color than red."
I think a lot of folk miss the obvious which is that the rest of the world outside of Cap's close friends, dont know that Steve went back in time and got to live a life where he left off. So Jennifer probably does think he's dead, and it was kinda ambiguous whether or not Hulk knew that Steve got to live out a whole life.
It's clear Jennifer thinks Steve is dead, but she missed Bruce's slip up. Bruce said "Steve is not a virgin", present tense, meaning he knows Steve's alive. I guess Bruce Banner is almost as bad as Mark Ruffalo when it comes to keeping secrets 🤣
I was going to point out no one noticed Bruce said "Steve IS NOT a virgin" instead of "WAS not a virgin" which is funny because I would think a lawyer would catch that difference. But I don't think it's ambiguous for Hulk knowing about Steve living out his life if that's what you meant. I'm pretty sure he Falcon, and Sam at the very least know I highly doubt Hulk stood 30ft away from Steve telling Sam about it and not being told by Sam or Steve himself the details. Steve is around somewhere as well it's possible Bruce has talked to him plenty since, but I think the idea Bruce doesn't know about it as probable as Steve being a virgin which as Eric stated NO WAY with those looks and ass.
One of the things Feige is really poor at is "what tf does the rest of the world think happened". Think of all the events in Endgame and Infinity War - almost all of it happens away from the general public. Even the big showdown with Thanos: all most of the world would get is a second-hand story.
How would you know a situation was going to be dangerous? And come to think of it, why have you been in multiple situations that could have been dangerous? 🤨
People are already absolutely dragging this show already for showing what being a chick is like and because of the "forced" feminism. It might get annoying if they do it every episode but like yall gotta chill if you got mad over just this one 💀
@@BoredOuttaMyMind Unfortunately you can never really know if the situation is dangerous its just best to be on the safe side, especially when living in a larger city or near a bar I've had on 2 occasions been asked if I need a ride home by a group of 3-4 drunk guys while waiting at the bus stop next to where I work, most of the time there are some tell tale signs somethings up like asking if I want a drink or if they get a little to "comfy" with talking about certain things or getting way to close and If I get a whiff of alcohol I'm immediately on red alert as even good people can do dumb things when their drunk.
@@scarce_viking9074 I get the forced feminism argument it did feel a little shoved in there but all the points Jen made where 100% valid and experiences a lot of us have to go through but I really don't think it ruined the show, its still incredibly funny and its not like they focused on "woman problems" the entire episode.
It occurs to me that Bruce does not need glasses at all. that he wears them for a similar reason that The Doctor does, they make him look clever, and in the Hulk's case, it helps people see him as less of a threat.
I saw a comment somewhere about the theory as to why she is so natural with the Hulk. Bruce Banner watched his Dad brutally murder his mom at a young age, and his Hulk was a manifestation of unprocessed trauma. That’s why there was “the other guy” he had to wrestle with for 10 years. My favorite part of the theory is that we’re seeing how a normal person who could survive the gamma dose would be when turning into a Hulk. Was a cool theory I thought others might enjoy! (Haven’t read the comics and am paraphrasing so I’ve definitely butchered the lore or explanation of Bruce’s hulk, but that was the gist I remember.)
You're not wrong, and he has more than one alter ego, like the black Hulk, "Joe", savage Hulk. In the comics Jennifer gets exposed even more to gamma radiation and that turns her to Hulk more close to her cousin's, That happens further in the future and after She goes through some trauma
This is all true which makes the scene of her talking about how good she is at controlling anger because she is a woman 100 times worse. The level of narcissism and delusional thinking that goes into giving that speech is mind blowing.
DBT (the therapy Bruce uses) was specially developed for people with Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. As someone with EUPD it's nice to have some representation even if it's the Hulk lmao
Have you guys watched Orphan Black? I wasn't interested but was forced to watch it by a family member - the first series was one of the best things I've EVER seen. Must see. Tatiana is breathtaking.
Bruce's Hulk personality is a result of the trauma he experienced due to his abusive father, who killed Bruce's mother when Bruce was still very young. The emotions he suppressed of fear and anger are what formed into Hulk, which is why the Hulk is a big baby compared to the calculated, intelligent Banner. In short, Hulk's alter egos are the result of his diassociative identity disorder (kinda like Moon Knight), except they are triggered by the gamma transformation- or they trigger the transformation. Being linked to his fear and anger, it's hard to tell which direction that link pulls. And we see that someone who has the same genetic factors but lacks those traumas is able to control their Hulk form from the get-go.
In the comics and in the novelization of the eric bana hulk movie its implied that the "Hulk" personality existed when Bruce was a child but was a voice in his head and not a full on disassociative identity because he was subconsciously suppressing it and the gamma accident simply made this persona too strong for Bruce to continue to suppress and thats how we get the Hulk.
instead of addressing that in the show, they went the other way like, what Jen went through was so much harder, she's just a natural at controlling all that rage.. it didn't work for me, especially since in the post credit scene, she's sexually objectifying Steve Rogers, a behavior she suffered through in life that she used as an example of why she was so tough..
@@StayFractalesque maybe, just maybe, they learn about each other's toxic traits throughout the show and work through them? We still have a whole fucking show to get through still.
@@StayFractalesque it's very not surprising to me that dudes are interpreting everything Jen said in the worst possible way while giving Bruce the benefit of the doubt for literally everything
@@kylebaird7387 Yeah idk how ppl are taking that to heart way too much lol She's speaking generally everyday women deal with more of that shit than men.
She's pretty cringe here, seems very natural to spew femi-nazi propaganda about how horrible men are and how tough having a vagina is. such a boring, pathetic show.
I’m hearing this a lot about blood it’s not a blood issue it’s a psychological issue Bruce has extreme D.I.D much like Moon Knight except where each persona manifests a different Hulk. In the MCU he merged his personas to make Smart Hulk. Reason why Jen has an easier adjustment to being She-Hulk is because she doesn’t have Bruce’s trauma or split personas.
You can watch HULK 2003 movie there it's stated Hulk is like his alter ego created way before the Gamma accident when his Father abused him and also killed his Mother when he was very small kid that's why Hulk behave like a baby or kid because he was created when Bruce was a kid or baby and also angry because of his traumatic past , Just Gamma ray triggered his angry alter ego to come out. Also in comics too this happened
Except they don’t ever make that apparent or even mention it. Instead of that great reason they go with “I’m a woman” as her excuse for being so well adapted.
@@shawnneurohr6198 which is a damn shame, because they were that close to mentioning it in context lmao fucking writers....and she is a great character, but these predictable ass clowns ruin it every time.
Personally, I think it was the autograph girl played by Laura Haddock. I also love the theory that that's Star-Lord's grandma since her actress is the same as Meridith Quill.
46:46 it might be a combination of how important the origin is to the character and personality and values they have and whether we’ve seen it 3 times prior.
what.. that Jenn was crying about being objectified and then she's gonna turn around and objectify Steve Rogers' backside? it's only traumatizing when it happens to her I guess, when she does it, it's empowering and hilarious?
@@StayFractalesque Men and women both talk about each other and objectify each other in private conversations. It's literally just what happens. Her making that comment to Bruce is not the same as men catcalling women on the street or even the same as her being followed by multiple men after she tells them no. Stop trying to equate the two. It would be different if she was talking about how men objectify women in private and then she did that but that's not what happened.
@@carrela1000 then what's up with the obsession with " locker room talk ".. you're saying they call out men publically for their private conversations, then turn around and gleefully engage in the same behavior? .. I mean, a man has used your very argument before and they attempted to cancel him for it... you know, I agree with you, humans are animals, and in fact, women encourage men to objectify them, and vice versa.. my point isn't about what's normal behavior or not, it's about calling out how stupid they look constantly talking out both sides of their mouth..
@@StayFractalesque Men and women talk very differently about each other. It's not the same at all. Girls talk about how cute they think this guy is, when they should text a guy back, give their friends advice on what to wear or on how to get this guy to notice them. Boys talk about which girls in their class have big asses or big breasts, which girls are easy, which girls they've had sex with, some even go so far as to exchange nudes of girls. Tone is vastly different. Also, most women do not encourage men to objectify them. Not every woman is a social media influencer or has an onlyfans. A woman will literally just be walking on the street in regular clothes and a man will still stare at her ass. Women just exist and some men still objectify them. Again, none of this was even mentioned in the show so I don't even know why it's being brought up.
I think a big problem people have, or at least one I have, is that Jen goes on a whole tirade about being objectified, but then the story has an entire running joke about Cap's ass and whether or not he was a virgin which shows that either the writers are hypocrites, or, more likely, that they are just including a lot of those things for brownie points and to look good which is always bad for artistic integrity. If you want to push a message then fine, but actually commit to it and do it justice instead of superficial trash like this. (I don't think the show is trash I actually like it, but just this specific aspect of it.)
This episode just made me feel really sad for Bruce as most things do, like he had to deal with so much of tht shit on his own and she's just like "i'm chill bro"
@@mohj6042 You can watch HULK 2003 movie there it's stated Hulk is like his alter ego created way before the Gamma accident when his Father abused him and also killed his Mother when he was very small kid that's why Hulk behave like a baby or kid because he was created when Bruce was a kid or baby and also angry because of his traumatic past , Just Gamma ray triggered his angry alter ego to come out. Also in comics too this happend
mine too.. I love the part that links how Jenn was crying about being traumatized because she was objectified by men, but in the same episode she's gonna objectify Steve Rogers because he 'has a nice backside'.. I agree, best post credits scene ever!
19:15 I've said this before, but Aaron and Calvin should do a DBZ reaction, to at least see everything after Cell Saga, there was so much good stuff the TFS didn't cover
I love their relationship It makes me think of me and my cousin when we were kids, i disliked her quite a lot and we used to get into fights xD Now we love eachother, she is like a little sister to me But i can not agree with her at all, when she says she supresses her anger a lot more than Bruce I know what she means, she has to deal with bs all the time But Bruce literally has "the other guy" a radioactive cosmic force breaking his sanity and pushing him to pure rage, causing everything on his life to be a problem He was monster to people, a target people wanted to kill, and a experiment some wanted to take advantage of Im not saying what she goes through is meaningless, but she is the one making Bruce meaningless
Bruce and Marc Spector have something in common. Both were raised by an extremely abusive parent and ended up developing multiple different personalities in order to cope as a result.
That post credit scene was just hilarious. Funny it may be, it could potentially setup either Ian Rogers or James Rogers, since either one used to be the secret son of Cap. Which leads to young avengers
Not about the show, BUT Eric is right, there is no way a good looking dude like Steve Rogers goes on tour with those women and nothing happens. NO WAY. Plus yes, Steve Rogers would not lie, that was one of his principles.
I bet Bruce makes another appearance at the end of the final episode to lead into the next season of She Hulk. Matt Murdoch makes his appearance to lead into season 4 of Daredevil.
Hulk's character development in this episode is OUTSTANDING, we see his pain, we see what he's had to deal with and the process to overcome that. I get why people may not like "Smart Hulk" but it makes the most sense for his character.
Also, that scene at the end confirmed a popular fan theory that Steve Rogers is Peter Quill's grandfather. Also, The Hulk was confirmed to be another Marvel hero who has DID, but it worked differently for him than Moon Knight, since every system is different. Hulk's realization that Jen was a single person, instead of 2, was very accurate to the jealousy angle.
Very thankful for the little catch Eric did with the “my boyfriend is coming to pick me up” line. Very insightful and very welcoming to see males discuss and understand this. I can’t say/remember how many times I’ve used that line in the past just for my safety.
It's ridiculous that you've had to. There have been a number of times in my life where I was walking down a street with a female friend and under certain circumstances we'd hold hands as we walked past groups of guys. And that was with a few different girls. Apparently I make a good decoy *wry smile*. Even had to pull that hand-holding trick in the military.
@@kylemccormack1785 ah, you must be the person that no one feels comfortable telling their truths too. I hope you grow and evolve and become a person people can trust. I wish you the best ❤️
i'm eating good this year because it just so happens that She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel are my two favorite Marvel heroes after Spider-Man and they both ended up getting their own series
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Hi guys, actually the red haired woman with the fancy outfit at the end of the episode in the court room is Titania, she is the main super-human ennemy of She-Hulk, she is the Cheetah of Wonder Woman.
18:14 Actually, it was going in. Abomination hits him, he knocks his head and falls to the floor, and then the modified Bruce blood drips right on his wound.
The theme of MCU Phase 4 is Grief. This phase is disjointed bc no 2 people process grief the same. Hulk may or may not have picked up a drinking problem while processing his grief.
I've been refreshing all day! I really liked this pilot but She Hulk has always been one of my favourites. I liked her action figure best as a kid, and now in this show she seems super endearing already.
The first episode wasn't originally going to delve into She-Hulk's origin story, and in fact much of the scenes shown there were part of Episode 8. It eventually became more expository due to Jessica Gao realizing that people would want information about Jennifer and her backstory sooner rather than later, and so repurposed most of what was shot for Episode 8 for Episode 1 instead.
Kinda disappointed that Howard the Duck wasn't piloting the ravager spaceship but other than that it was a thoroughly enjoyable pilot episode that filled in a LOT of gaps in Bruce's backstory
Comic book Bruce has a LOT of trauma which is why he has an alternate personality. He created that personality as a young child similar to moon knight. Bruce's dad was very abusive to him and he's kinda been shit on at every turn in life. Jennifer had the job she worked hard for and has a more normal family life. He's definitely stronger, but he has to literally nerf himself to remain controlled
I loved this episode so much!!! I cannot wait to see the whole season....I was cracking up when Bruce threw that rock into space hahaha...and that post credits scene was hysterical!!!!
yeah! the end credits scene was literally 'hysterical' .. it's so empowering and hilarious when women objectify men, but when it happens to her, it's one of the most traumatizing things that's ever happened to her in her life!
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The woman that Jennifer fought was Titania. Wife of Absorbing Man. Rival and currently friend of She-Hulk. Member of Department H's Gamma Flight/Hulk Buster squad.
As many ppl in the comments have said Bruce has DID which is why Hulk was his own person. If you think about it Bruce is the outlier when it comes to being a Hulk. She Hulk, Red Hulk, Abomination, Doc Sampson, all of them kept their own personality.
Also bonus unique thing that is normally tied to She-Hulk at least in the comics (and how I understand it), her Hulk side basically acts like a strength boost. In videogame terms, Bruce will just reach the minimum requirement of strength to do what he needs to do and he can do that at will, or easier to use as an example, he basically equips certain gear that he thinks will get the job done for the situation. Jenn's Hulk doesn't use gear, but works more like shoe's using stat modifiers, basically like an X Factor in the Capcom VS games or just like a "x2 (or more) Boost" to her base stats, meaning that (and she did this in the comics to fight a space faring warrior) if she goes to the gym and works out in her base form, her Hulk form will amplify her strength, like to the point of if she simply flexed like JUST her arm, she can shatter every window off a multi-story building.
Per the MCU timeline, Steve was on the USO tour for ~18 months. 18 months in close quarters with dozens of beautiful women, a large part of that time in the US while almost all other able-bodied men were away at war. Kevin Feige's chosen explanation makes sense... best mid-post credit scene ever, lol. Overall, a delightful episode, too. Kept me laughing. Jen was funny and likeable. Her best friend lit up the screen, too. Getting more of Bruce's story was way overdue. They had great cousin chemistry. The CGI was better than I'd been led to expect. Only cringe I had was during the courtroom fight, but even that I could see as super comic bookish. Re the genetic factor? That almost felt like Hulk-ism is a mutation. I wonder if part of the difference between Bruce & Jen is that he also was dosed with Gamma radiation simultaneously with a serum? Steve was dosed w a serum & vita rays and that went differently than when Red Skull got serum (not sure what radiation, but don't think it was vita rays courtesy of Howard Stark). I dunno. It's all comics mumbo jumbo. :) I look forward to more She Hulk!
The reason She Hulk can control her form is that The Hulk is actually another identity Bruce made when he was a kid. He has dissociative identity disorder, caused by being abused by his dad and his dad killing his mom right before him. He has never told anyone about this and isn't aware of Hulk and Banner being two different people-ish. When he "merged" Hulk and banner he just came to terms with his childhood and became "normal".
What I want out of this show, besides Matt Murdock in a court room again, is for Jen to teach Bruce how to go from one to the other on command like she can. Idk if that's "realistic" but I want it.
but then that would mean theyre very similar. the point of that is so there is a clear distinction between Jen, who's just a regular person, and Bruce who experienced childhood trauma and has DID
Hulk's blood has ALWAYS been a problem, Bruce freaks out about it in his movie. EVERY Hulk movie has had Bruce's blood cause issues. Ang Lee's Hulked out dogs, Abomination, Stan (became a Watcher agent), The Leader, Jen...everyone who has had contact with Bruce's blood has Hulked out in some way.
I loved the first Episode of She-Hulk a lot. But I will say, that idea of Bruce having a different persona in Hulk form, but Jen not would work a lot better if the MCU had established the fact that Bruce has DID, caused by his childhood trauma. Especially seeing how this seems to be what some aspects of the episode seem to hint at. But hopefully if they are introducing it, we can see more of Bruce's story and his alternate personas...and hopefully it's handled with care too; in whatever project they decided to continue his story in now. Also really liked how they updated Jennifer's Origin to make sense in a world where Bruce does know that his blood is dangerous. Now onwards with Jen's story.
A part of me was a little annoyed that it wasn't a blood transfusion that transformed her, but you're right it does make more sense for the blood to just accidentally mix with hers. For one, such a thing has shown to happen in the universe, for two I imagine Bruce would be very reluctant to give his blood to his cousin even if to save her life (though with that in mind, it potentially could work) because he knows something bad could happen if he does give her his blood. On a side note: I thought she would have gotten her 4th wall breaking ability by getting a head injury in the crash and then getting transformed. Like it was a mix of head trauma and gamma radiation that allowed her to go slightly crazy and see past the 4th wall.
@@zacharybartolo5111 yeah, I totally get being annoyed at it not being the original one. But if she was created these days, even in the comics, I doubt Bruce would have given her his blood. Especially after Professor Hulk and Immortal Hulk. I do wonder if they will explain weather or not her 4th wall breaking abilities were from the gamma blood or head trauma, both or even something to do with childhood. But I could see them just not explaining…it feels like a very modern mud thing to do now
i doubt we will get Bruce's story, because a lot of the things he says in this episode get brushed over real quick. it feels like Marvel is trying to make Bruce open up very slightly, and the episode could have very easily benefitted from 10 more minutes of Bruce and Jen talking about their lives
Having that put into the show would also reduce the impact of her explanation of why she is not out-of-control-hulking. The showrunner and writers want this series to be (more) about Jen's story. It isn't just that she did not experience childhood trauma, it really is because of what being a woman in the world is like.
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I liked that they explained plenty of things in this episodes, like why Bruce was human in the Shang-Chi end credits while still having his arm in a sling. The only downside is that by having the human Bruce there is little chance of Professor Hulk. If he had always been in Hulk form, then the reveal of the left-handed Professor Hulk persona could have introduced weird twists, since it wouldn't be Bruce using the stones to bring everyone back in Endgame, but an unknown persona who could have altered things that are brought up in the years to come.
@@lunatic5162 Could be, but it kinda felt very deliberate like we were meant to pick up on it but maybe it's just a red herring.........I'm just gonna keep believing Steve is alive on the moon until proven otherwise
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14:22 that woman She-Hulk is fighting is Titania
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In the comics, Bruce had an abusive father. Jennifer Walters had a much better family life. That could have had an impact on their personas
Yup. She never developed DID like he did as a child
My one thing though is that she complains about man giving her grief her whole life, but completely puts aside Bruce’s emotions (abusive father and all) like his don’t mean anything. Remember he tried to take his own life!
@@RandomNPC001 You do know she probably doesn’t know that, at least the take his own life part
Yup. DID forms as a coping mechanism as something for the abused to talk to... Jen just talks to 'herself' since her personality never split
@@RandomNPC001 it's obvious she doesn't know that because Bruce isn't close to his relatives and doesn't talk to them
It's not really explained in the MCU but is touched upon in the Ang Lee Hulk movie that the Hulk is another personality born of Bruce's childhood trauma from growing up with an extremely abusive father. Jennifer's didn't have that trauma or anywhere near the same levels of gamma exposure and therefore just transforms without losing her personality or intelligence.
Ang Lee Hulk is not canon. Just stop trying to connect that please.
The Hulk was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby to be a combination of Jekyll and Hyde and Frankenstein's monster.
@@hamhockbeans then look at the comics where the canon is also Bruce was abused as a child and his father killed his mother. It's not some weird movie theory it's pretty established canon and it makes a lot of sense. We have multiple Hulks, both in the comics and now in the MCU, and they aren't all like Bruce. There's a much larger range of Hulks in the comics but "turns into a rage monster" is not actually universal in the MCU or comics. That's a Bruce thing not a gamma powered transformation thing.
Really hope they touch into this as the series goes on, this episode can't be the only time Bruce appears
@@hamhockbeans Never said it was but, that movie didn't invent that backstory out of thin air. It was directly taken from the comics. I'm also well aware of the history of the character and it's creators, thanks.
I think “CAPTAIN AMERICA FUUUU-“ is one of my favourite post-credits ever. So excited to see you guys react to this!!
It reminds me of Harley Quinn saying that Batman has made love to bats at the end of the Birds of Prey credits
That & Shang-Chi, Katy, & Wong singing Hotel California in karaoke will never not be funny.
@@Phanthief95 Oh man, I loved that one too!
It broke me in the best way. Hard to think of a joke in the MCU that made my laugh harder, unexpectantly. It was amazing, and the cut really sold it
Same that felt like a smosh bit
Eric admitting he uses chop sticks for Cheetos and everyone else still like “it’s still stupid” was sooo funny to me 😂 just a genuine moment among friends lol
Reed Richards respects her mind above a LOT of others for a reason.
it really was!!!
You know Tony had to have brought up the question of Steve’s virginity during so many bro’s nights at the Compound.
100%
Lmao exactly i can just imagine thor and tony teasing him about his virginity and finally leading to steve confessing the truth 😂
@@sathyanarayanay.h.9630 No, I don't think Thor would tease. He'd be more the one to try to sound reassuring and shit but actually makes it worse.
@@justincaviness Thor would probably say something along the lines of him going sex-less for like 200 years, so Steve being an 80-something virgin is no big deal.
I still think he was waiting for the right partner.
I'm glad they showed Bruce's frustration. He finally felt that he might have someone who could understand his position, and his cousin just gets her Hulk form with none of the relative downsides he had to struggle with ever since he first turned, and it's upsetting. I do wish they'd confirm MCU Bruce's past, as we can have far more context as to all the trauma that did bring the Hulk identity to life. Plus, all that and throwing in that Tony and Natasha are dead, and I can only imagine that Bruce is just incredibly fed up with people he was close to either dying or not fully understanding just what the Hulk has meant for him for better or worse.
I think people complain too fast. Like you want them to explain Bruce's entire past in this one episode. How about wait a bit and see what direction they go with Bruce. To me it seemed like they were hinting at his past and would delve into it with time.
@@donemu9096 Not saying they need him to breakdown his entire life's trauma in a single episode, I'd like to see some acknowledgement since he apparently integrated Bruce and Hulk, so there had to be some level of understanding of his own trauma to finally get a hold of himself to the degree we see when he's "Smart Hulk".
Hulk's only had one MCU movie, and he's since been relegated as an add-on for the rest of the MCU. He's gotten so much background growth that we only barely get to in this show, despite showing up directly in 6 movies. I'm just not satisfied with how poorly the MCU has treated Hulk, and I sorta hate that we had to wait for a spin-off show that isn't even primarily about him to even start getting context into all that he's been doing outside the films to better understand himself. That's fine if you think my complaining is too fast, but he's far past due.
@@donemu9096 no excuses they had the hulk like 10 years already they gotta speed it up
I mean can’t Disney at this point buy the Hulk movie rights back.
@@roxtechs Not if Universal doesn't want to sell them.
"Before it was a theory, now it's a law" -Eric
If they don't make this a Tshirt they missed a chance.
Read it as he said it
The part in the women's restroom made me so happy! They really captured the essence of what its like to walk into the bathroom of a place that serves alcohol and be taken care of by other women.
Do you often walk into a bathroom and other women start painting you with foundation? You might want to go to different places then.
@@conormurphy4328 if you find a girl being a wreck, with all her makeup dripping and such, you'd absolutely find other women trying to help her out.
@@conormurphy4328 A woman messed up in the restroom...be it a bar, restaurant, retail store...usually gets some amount of support when another woman walks in. As for being in a bar...alcohol fueled help really goes there.
@@kc5997 yea help her out, not try to reapply make up. How fucking stupid is that after she looks like she’s been in a car crash.
im so sad that ill never get to experience that level of random support 😭 that scene was so cute lol
What I really enjoyed is the exploration of Bruce’s trauma and how his life has been changed by “the other guy”. His smart hulk persona felt abrupt in endgame and I’m glad it’s given depth here. Also seems we are getting glimpses that Savage hulk may still be their and with the rumors of a WW hulk story coming to the mcu I can see it happening after this episode. Also love the dynamic he and Jen had this episode.
This! I think now Smart Hulk is much more likeable and understandable, it's also shown that he hasn't lost any of his previous force, wich was not explored in endgame
See boys and girls plot holes can be filled just relax.
@@hamhockbeans Yea cuz Marvel fucking had to do it, and btw while this is good this is like the most minimal thing😂Obviously is a She Hulk show but yea
@@Sucmydack she never fucking belittled him what all she did was talk about her own shit men can be angry but women cant we are call disgusting names if we are with that being said nobody said men cant go they the same shit it's just went thru way more so you compare the two
@@Sucmydack thank you, that put me off too.
I think we need to remember that Bruce said "the triggers are anger and fear," so when she's caught with those men during her second change, it's more likely that the trigger was fear more than anger- but it manifested as only anger simply because she "hulked out."
Oh wow, that’s an excellent point.
I think also it was the last thing she needed after a car crash, waking up in the middle of the moods and not knowing where the hell she is. No matter how good she is at controlling her anger I can’t blame her for losing it there
Its never dealt with or mentioned that, if she hadnt been blindsided by BB, she would have backhanded a guy into an early grave for being a bit creepy. That should at least be mentioned by BB when shes saying shes in complete control shouldnt it?
@@phr00tpie those guys weren’t just being creepy they were harassing her in a situation that was rapidly becoming scary right after she had literally been in a car accident, I would judge anyone who didn’t get mad in that situation
@@jonasquinn7977 trying to defend attempted murder?
I really like this episode an Tatiana Maslany is amazing as Jen Walters. But what really suprised me was how much they allude to what's going on with Bruce.
The way they hint at how much He misses Tony on the one hand. But more importantly that they show that the "hulk" or the transformation isn't his true problem - but his mental issues and a lot of unprocessed trauma that manifest in his Hulk persona
I love how even as a communicative Bruce he still has traits of the "Big Baby"
Hawkeye and She-Hulk definitely gave much depth to both the characters without a solo movie. And they could still play a big part in their protégé's movies.
@@AL-jg4pr
Do you mean Bruce? He had one solo movie in Phase 1 but I think issues with Universal has prevented new movies from being made.
I love how they perfectly show the differences between Bruce and Jens abilities in episode one. Bruce is stronger and smarter but Jen is so much faster and agile than Bruce. Its really great so it doesn't just feel like we're watching a female version of the hulk. She is A hulk but shes different enough to definitely feel unique
Kind of like the distinction between Peter Parker and Miles Morales. They're both Spider-Man but have slightly different sets of abilities.
I think one of the best examples is the sonic clap scene. Hulk does one huge powerful clap. But while her claps booms are smaller she can clap multiple times in a row and overwhelm Bruce.
@@BravoDox Ooh! I get the Ken/Ryu reference!
*sigh* I'm an old.
Dude, you're giving too much credit. It's pretty much cannon in every video game that the guy character's attacks/strength is greater but the female character is faster/more agile. It's like saying, "Maroon is a totally different color than red."
@@fightingfaerie That was pure Bs. As if Hulk can’t do multiple claps. It’s clapping your hands.
I think a lot of folk miss the obvious which is that the rest of the world outside of Cap's close friends, dont know that Steve went back in time and got to live a life where he left off. So Jennifer probably does think he's dead, and it was kinda ambiguous whether or not Hulk knew that Steve got to live out a whole life.
It's clear Jennifer thinks Steve is dead, but she missed Bruce's slip up. Bruce said "Steve is not a virgin", present tense, meaning he knows Steve's alive. I guess Bruce Banner is almost as bad as Mark Ruffalo when it comes to keeping secrets 🤣
I was going to point out no one noticed Bruce said "Steve IS NOT a virgin" instead of "WAS not a virgin" which is funny because I would think a lawyer would catch that difference.
But I don't think it's ambiguous for Hulk knowing about Steve living out his life if that's what you meant. I'm pretty sure he Falcon, and Sam at the very least know I highly doubt Hulk stood 30ft away from Steve telling Sam about it and not being told by Sam or Steve himself the details. Steve is around somewhere as well it's possible Bruce has talked to him plenty since, but I think the idea Bruce doesn't know about it as probable as Steve being a virgin which as Eric stated NO WAY with those looks and ass.
One of the things Feige is really poor at is "what tf does the rest of the world think happened".
Think of all the events in Endgame and Infinity War - almost all of it happens away from the general public.
Even the big showdown with Thanos: all most of the world would get is a second-hand story.
53:56 and the prosecutor villain is her best friend outside the courtroom because they’re that professional
I can say from personal experience that saying "oh I'm waiting for my boyfriend" has saved me from potentially dangerous situations multiple times.
How would you know a situation was going to be dangerous? And come to think of it, why have you been in multiple situations that could have been dangerous? 🤨
@@BoredOuttaMyMind Because guys are guys and their behavior is very telling ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People are already absolutely dragging this show already for showing what being a chick is like and because of the "forced" feminism. It might get annoying if they do it every episode but like yall gotta chill if you got mad over just this one 💀
@@BoredOuttaMyMind Unfortunately you can never really know if the situation is dangerous its just best to be on the safe side, especially when living in a larger city or near a bar I've had on 2 occasions been asked if I need a ride home by a group of 3-4 drunk guys while waiting at the bus stop next to where I work, most of the time there are some tell tale signs somethings up like asking if I want a drink or if they get a little to "comfy" with talking about certain things or getting way to close and If I get a whiff of alcohol I'm immediately on red alert as even good people can do dumb things when their drunk.
@@scarce_viking9074 I get the forced feminism argument it did feel a little shoved in there but all the points Jen made where 100% valid and experiences a lot of us have to go through but I really don't think it ruined the show, its still incredibly funny and its not like they focused on "woman problems" the entire episode.
It occurs to me that Bruce does not need glasses at all. that he wears them for a similar reason that The Doctor does, they make him look clever, and in the Hulk's case, it helps people see him as less of a threat.
I saw a comment somewhere about the theory as to why she is so natural with the Hulk. Bruce Banner watched his Dad brutally murder his mom at a young age, and his Hulk was a manifestation of unprocessed trauma. That’s why there was “the other guy” he had to wrestle with for 10 years.
My favorite part of the theory is that we’re seeing how a normal person who could survive the gamma dose would be when turning into a Hulk.
Was a cool theory I thought others might enjoy!
(Haven’t read the comics and am paraphrasing so I’ve definitely butchered the lore or explanation of Bruce’s hulk, but that was the gist I remember.)
You're not wrong, and he has more than one alter ego, like the black Hulk, "Joe", savage Hulk. In the comics Jennifer gets exposed even more to gamma radiation and that turns her to Hulk more close to her cousin's, That happens further in the future and after She goes through some trauma
That's canon actually. His dad also beat the shit out of him and pumped him with all sorts of chemicals.
@@emanueldinis5129 Joe Fixit is grey, not black.
This is all true which makes the scene of her talking about how good she is at controlling anger because she is a woman 100 times worse. The level of narcissism and delusional thinking that goes into giving that speech is mind blowing.
@@snorpenbass4196 "Joe Savage Hulk" dude wasn't even close.
DBT (the therapy Bruce uses) was specially developed for people with Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. As someone with EUPD it's nice to have some representation even if it's the Hulk lmao
The binder pages could’ve been laminated. So he could flip through them without tearing them
Have you guys watched Orphan Black? I wasn't interested but was forced to watch it by a family member - the first series was one of the best things I've EVER seen. Must see. Tatiana is breathtaking.
Bruce's Hulk personality is a result of the trauma he experienced due to his abusive father, who killed Bruce's mother when Bruce was still very young. The emotions he suppressed of fear and anger are what formed into Hulk, which is why the Hulk is a big baby compared to the calculated, intelligent Banner. In short, Hulk's alter egos are the result of his diassociative identity disorder (kinda like Moon Knight), except they are triggered by the gamma transformation- or they trigger the transformation. Being linked to his fear and anger, it's hard to tell which direction that link pulls.
And we see that someone who has the same genetic factors but lacks those traumas is able to control their Hulk form from the get-go.
In the comics and in the novelization of the eric bana hulk movie its implied that the "Hulk" personality existed when Bruce was a child but was a voice in his head and not a full on disassociative identity because he was subconsciously suppressing it and the gamma accident simply made this persona too strong for Bruce to continue to suppress and thats how we get the Hulk.
instead of addressing that in the show, they went the other way like, what Jen went through was so much harder, she's just a natural at controlling all that rage.. it didn't work for me, especially since in the post credit scene, she's sexually objectifying Steve Rogers, a behavior she suffered through in life that she used as an example of why she was so tough..
@@StayFractalesque maybe, just maybe, they learn about each other's toxic traits throughout the show and work through them? We still have a whole fucking show to get through still.
@@StayFractalesque it's very not surprising to me that dudes are interpreting everything Jen said in the worst possible way while giving Bruce the benefit of the doubt for literally everything
@@kylebaird7387 Yeah idk how ppl are taking that to heart way too much lol She's speaking generally everyday women deal with more of that shit than men.
2:10 So satisfying to see Tatiana Mansley playing as a superhero! She's an amazing actress! I loved her in Orphan Black! 🙏🏽
She's pretty cringe here, seems very natural to spew femi-nazi propaganda about how horrible men are and how tough having a vagina is. such a boring, pathetic show.
I know right? And now I want to rewatch Orphan Black. Did the guys ever react to that?
I’m hearing this a lot about blood it’s not a blood issue it’s a psychological issue
Bruce has extreme D.I.D much like Moon Knight except where each persona manifests a different Hulk. In the MCU he merged his personas to make Smart Hulk.
Reason why Jen has an easier adjustment to being She-Hulk is because she doesn’t have Bruce’s trauma or split personas.
Great point !! He originally was a lot like moon knight
You can watch HULK 2003 movie there it's stated Hulk is like his alter ego created way before the Gamma accident when his Father abused him and also killed his Mother when he was very small kid that's why Hulk behave like a baby or kid because he was created when Bruce was a kid or baby and also angry because of his traumatic past , Just Gamma ray triggered his angry alter ego to come out.
Also in comics too this happened
Except they don’t ever make that apparent or even mention it. Instead of that great reason they go with “I’m a woman” as her excuse for being so well adapted.
@@shawnneurohr6198 which is a damn shame, because they were that close to mentioning it in context lmao fucking writers....and she is a great character, but these predictable ass clowns ruin it every time.
41:45 Todd: “oh you’re gonna have to talk about this”
Personally, I think it was the autograph girl played by Laura Haddock. I also love the theory that that's Star-Lord's grandma since her actress is the same as Meridith Quill.
46:46 it might be a combination of how important the origin is to the character and personality and values they have and whether we’ve seen it 3 times prior.
I love Eric’s vindication in the end credits scene.
what.. that Jenn was crying about being objectified and then she's gonna turn around and objectify Steve Rogers' backside? it's only traumatizing when it happens to her I guess, when she does it, it's empowering and hilarious?
@@StayFractalesque she was acting drunk to get information out of Bruce.
@@StayFractalesque Men and women both talk about each other and objectify each other in private conversations. It's literally just what happens. Her making that comment to Bruce is not the same as men catcalling women on the street or even the same as her being followed by multiple men after she tells them no. Stop trying to equate the two. It would be different if she was talking about how men objectify women in private and then she did that but that's not what happened.
@@carrela1000 then what's up with the obsession with " locker room talk ".. you're saying they call out men publically for their private conversations, then turn around and gleefully engage in the same behavior? .. I mean, a man has used your very argument before and they attempted to cancel him for it... you know, I agree with you, humans are animals, and in fact, women encourage men to objectify them, and vice versa.. my point isn't about what's normal behavior or not, it's about calling out how stupid they look constantly talking out both sides of their mouth..
@@StayFractalesque Men and women talk very differently about each other. It's not the same at all. Girls talk about how cute they think this guy is, when they should text a guy back, give their friends advice on what to wear or on how to get this guy to notice them. Boys talk about which girls in their class have big asses or big breasts, which girls are easy, which girls they've had sex with, some even go so far as to exchange nudes of girls. Tone is vastly different. Also, most women do not encourage men to objectify them. Not every woman is a social media influencer or has an onlyfans. A woman will literally just be walking on the street in regular clothes and a man will still stare at her ass. Women just exist and some men still objectify them. Again, none of this was even mentioned in the show so I don't even know why it's being brought up.
2:51 It would've been cool if Bruce's inhibitor was powered by the Sands of Nisanti (from DS:MOM)
I think a big problem people have, or at least one I have, is that Jen goes on a whole tirade about being objectified, but then the story has an entire running joke about Cap's ass and whether or not he was a virgin which shows that either the writers are hypocrites, or, more likely, that they are just including a lot of those things for brownie points and to look good which is always bad for artistic integrity. If you want to push a message then fine, but actually commit to it and do it justice instead of superficial trash like this. (I don't think the show is trash I actually like it, but just this specific aspect of it.)
It's not that deep bro, plus she wasn't threatening to rape him, that's the difference.
@@rockandrollfantasy86 If you think catcalling and objectifying jokes are "threatening to rape someone" you are chronically online
3:50 I love their reaction to the ship appearing. They were so invested in the conversation
Rick just sitting there deadpan lol
@@roxtechs you can tell he doesn’t like the show😂
This episode just made me feel really sad for Bruce as most things do, like he had to deal with so much of tht shit on his own and she's just like "i'm chill bro"
55:16 The Importance Of Seeing Ernest
I actually think that Bruce's alter ego came from his own upbringing and trauma. Kind of like a Marc Spector situation where The Hulk protected Bruce.
Have they stated that previously in any of the shows or movies? Did i miss something?
@@mohj6042 no they haven’t, but it does make sense considering what happened with Jen
@@mohj6042 not in the MCU, but it's his backstory in the comics (and in the Ang Lee Hulk, all though that's not canon) - I'd assume it's the same here
@@mohj6042 You can watch HULK 2003 movie there it's stated Hulk is like his alter ego created way before the Gamma accident when his Father abused him and also killed his Mother when he was very small kid that's why Hulk behave like a baby or kid because he was created when Bruce was a kid or baby and also angry because of his traumatic past , Just Gamma ray triggered his angry alter ego to come out.
Also in comics too this happend
This made Bruce one of my favorite characters a person who built themselves up from grief
Love the Legal Eagle idea guys that would be fun! Thanks for the thoughtful reaction/review as usual.
honestly that might be my favorite end credit scene😂😭
It's one of the best.
“Captain America Fu-“
mine too.. I love the part that links how Jenn was crying about being traumatized because she was objectified by men, but in the same episode she's gonna objectify Steve Rogers because he 'has a nice backside'.. I agree, best post credits scene ever!
19:15 I've said this before, but Aaron and Calvin should do a DBZ reaction, to at least see everything after Cell Saga, there was so much good stuff the TFS didn't cover
56:52 But we’ve just established that She-Hulk is just Jen but again!
I love their relationship
It makes me think of me and my cousin when we were kids, i disliked her quite a lot and we used to get into fights xD
Now we love eachother, she is like a little sister to me
But i can not agree with her at all, when she says she supresses her anger a lot more than Bruce
I know what she means, she has to deal with bs all the time
But Bruce literally has "the other guy" a radioactive cosmic force breaking his sanity and pushing him to pure rage, causing everything on his life to be a problem
He was monster to people, a target people wanted to kill, and a experiment some wanted to take advantage of
Im not saying what she goes through is meaningless, but she is the one making Bruce meaningless
22:12 Since she calmed down immediately, I think she chose to Shulk out to make a point
Bruce and Marc Spector have something in common. Both were raised by an extremely abusive parent and ended up developing multiple different personalities in order to cope as a result.
I did like the detail that Jennifer took a pause and realized she just talked to a 4th party the first time chronologically
That post credit scene was just hilarious. Funny it may be, it could potentially setup either Ian Rogers or James Rogers, since either one used to be the secret son of Cap. Which leads to young avengers
She-Hulk debuted in 1980 and was Stan Lee's second to last Marvel creation...the last being 'Ravage 2099' in 1992
First thought when she walks out to the tiki hut island scene is “Tahiti is a magical place.”
It sucks...
50:34 it’s possible he’s rounding up and it’s been 14 years
Not about the show, BUT Eric is right, there is no way a good looking dude like Steve Rogers goes on tour with those women and nothing happens. NO WAY. Plus yes, Steve Rogers would not lie, that was one of his principles.
Did anyone notice that Bruce said "Steve Rogers is not a virgin". He didn't say "he was not" he said he "is not' that implies he is still alive.
I bet Bruce makes another appearance at the end of the final episode to lead into the next season of She Hulk. Matt Murdoch makes his appearance to lead into season 4 of Daredevil.
"Captain America Fuuuuuu" made me lose my shit. Perfect delivery!!
Remember that Bruce's alter ego is actually something he's had since childhood.
Yeah, just like Marc created Steven. Though we never got where Jake came from.
Not in the MCU though. This is the case in the comics but it hasn't been made clear in the MCU.
the shockwave when Hulk tackles her in the fight is so perfect haha
Hulk's character development in this episode is OUTSTANDING, we see his pain, we see what he's had to deal with and the process to overcome that. I get why people may not like "Smart Hulk" but it makes the most sense for his character.
And unfortunately, jen's interactions with him make her pretty unlikeable in this episode.
@@metallicnole4514 Wait what? How is he unlikable? He's making points based on his experience which completely make sense.
@@WebbedManiac I was talking about jen being unlikeable
Also, that scene at the end confirmed a popular fan theory that Steve Rogers is Peter Quill's grandfather. Also, The Hulk was confirmed to be another Marvel hero who has DID, but it worked differently for him than Moon Knight, since every system is different. Hulk's realization that Jen was a single person, instead of 2, was very accurate to the jealousy angle.
what? the actress being the same was pure coincidence lol. James Gunn was joking when he said its peter quills grandma
@@AT32556 Marvel wink and nudged it after James Gun's tweet. Making the universe more connected has been a part of this entire phase.
Very thankful for the little catch Eric did with the “my boyfriend is coming to pick me up” line. Very insightful and very welcoming to see males discuss and understand this. I can’t say/remember how many times I’ve used that line in the past just for my safety.
It's ridiculous that you've had to. There have been a number of times in my life where I was walking down a street with a female friend and under certain circumstances we'd hold hands as we walked past groups of guys. And that was with a few different girls. Apparently I make a good decoy *wry smile*. Even had to pull that hand-holding trick in the military.
@@chrisd7047 that’s amazing that you did that! A male friend who understands and helps is so … it really takes the weight off the shoulders. ❤️❤️❤️
You're a liar, telling fibs for attention.
Why do you feel so comfortable telling lies like this? This event did not occur in reality.
@@kylemccormack1785 ah, you must be the person that no one feels comfortable telling their truths too. I hope you grow and evolve and become a person people can trust. I wish you the best ❤️
i'm eating good this year because it just so happens that She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel are my two favorite Marvel heroes after Spider-Man and they both ended up getting their own series
I have to say this again. I am so grateful for 2020. I lead me to you guys. You guys need to have more followers. More views, more everything. I really enjoy your channel. I love this discussion you guys are having.
16:46 he was implying Bruce lied.
I was excited but this first episode was SO MUCH FUN!!! I can’t wait for more
Hi guys, actually the red haired woman with the fancy outfit at the end of the episode in the court room is Titania, she is the main super-human ennemy of She-Hulk, she is the Cheetah of Wonder Woman.
That end credit scene is the canon answer straight from Kevin feige
18:14 Actually, it was going in. Abomination hits him, he knocks his head and falls to the floor, and then the modified Bruce blood drips right on his wound.
The theme of MCU Phase 4 is Grief. This phase is disjointed bc no 2 people process grief the same. Hulk may or may not have picked up a drinking problem while processing his grief.
It's very hard for him to get drunk though
She Hulk still Phase 4
Its also just badly written
@@leonrussell9607 sure it is pal, sure it is
@@leonrussell9607 🤡
I didn't notice the binder but in some of the dialogue Smart Hulks mouth looks like we're back in 2010 as far as CGI.
I've been refreshing all day! I really liked this pilot but She Hulk has always been one of my favourites. I liked her action figure best as a kid, and now in this show she seems super endearing already.
The first episode wasn't originally going to delve into She-Hulk's origin story, and in fact much of the scenes shown there were part of Episode 8. It eventually became more expository due to Jessica Gao realizing that people would want information about Jennifer and her backstory sooner rather than later, and so repurposed most of what was shot for Episode 8 for Episode 1 instead.
Kinda disappointed that Howard the Duck wasn't piloting the ravager spaceship but other than that it was a thoroughly enjoyable pilot episode that filled in a LOT of gaps in Bruce's backstory
Comic book Bruce has a LOT of trauma which is why he has an alternate personality. He created that personality as a young child similar to moon knight. Bruce's dad was very abusive to him and he's kinda been shit on at every turn in life. Jennifer had the job she worked hard for and has a more normal family life. He's definitely stronger, but he has to literally nerf himself to remain controlled
I loved this episode so much!!! I cannot wait to see the whole season....I was cracking up when Bruce threw that rock into space hahaha...and that post credits scene was hysterical!!!!
yeah! the end credits scene was literally 'hysterical' .. it's so empowering and hilarious when women objectify men, but when it happens to her, it's one of the most traumatizing things that's ever happened to her in her life!
Your reaction videos always pop up on my front page which I always click but after this reaction I can see how genuine and open minded you men are compared to many others in this fandom. You got another subscriber from me!
I didn’t think I would like it if I’m being honest but like ms marvel I had fun and laughed and was convinced I’m excited for the next episodes
The woman that Jennifer fought was Titania. Wife of Absorbing Man. Rival and currently friend of She-Hulk. Member of Department H's Gamma Flight/Hulk Buster squad.
I love how the discussion started talking about the whole cap being a virgin theme instead of the rest of the episode
the lighting in the back is so awesome
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. I expected it to be this good I wish they dropped more than one episode though I would’ve loved 2! 💚💜
As many ppl in the comments have said Bruce has DID which is why Hulk was his own person. If you think about it Bruce is the outlier when it comes to being a Hulk. She Hulk, Red Hulk, Abomination, Doc Sampson, all of them kept their own personality.
As a big fan of all things Hulk, this did a lot for me. I can’t wait for the future of this show.
I'm so excited I almost want to watch Incredible no ears Abomination Hulk again. And that does not happen very frequently. But it's a good Hulk show!
I wish the action was more weighty and impactful, but it's a TV show budget, not a movie, so it's understandable.
Also bonus unique thing that is normally tied to She-Hulk at least in the comics (and how I understand it), her Hulk side basically acts like a strength boost. In videogame terms, Bruce will just reach the minimum requirement of strength to do what he needs to do and he can do that at will, or easier to use as an example, he basically equips certain gear that he thinks will get the job done for the situation. Jenn's Hulk doesn't use gear, but works more like shoe's using stat modifiers, basically like an X Factor in the Capcom VS games or just like a "x2 (or more) Boost" to her base stats, meaning that (and she did this in the comics to fight a space faring warrior) if she goes to the gym and works out in her base form, her Hulk form will amplify her strength, like to the point of if she simply flexed like JUST her arm, she can shatter every window off a multi-story building.
"Before it was a theory and now its a law!" that got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Per the MCU timeline, Steve was on the USO tour for ~18 months. 18 months in close quarters with dozens of beautiful women, a large part of that time in the US while almost all other able-bodied men were away at war. Kevin Feige's chosen explanation makes sense... best mid-post credit scene ever, lol.
Overall, a delightful episode, too. Kept me laughing. Jen was funny and likeable. Her best friend lit up the screen, too. Getting more of Bruce's story was way overdue. They had great cousin chemistry. The CGI was better than I'd been led to expect. Only cringe I had was during the courtroom fight, but even that I could see as super comic bookish. Re the genetic factor? That almost felt like Hulk-ism is a mutation. I wonder if part of the difference between Bruce & Jen is that he also was dosed with Gamma radiation simultaneously with a serum? Steve was dosed w a serum & vita rays and that went differently than when Red Skull got serum (not sure what radiation, but don't think it was vita rays courtesy of Howard Stark). I dunno. It's all comics mumbo jumbo. :) I look forward to more She Hulk!
Notice that the seats in Bruce's jeep and the workbenches in his gamma lab are all Hulk-sized.
Tatiana Maslany is so talented, I know she's going to kill it in She-Hulk!
You guys love predictions..... Mine is that by the end of the series Banner will look her right in the face and say "Hulk Smash"
I was very pleasantly surprised by this show, I truthfully thought I'd dislike it, but it's actually quite funny. "CAPTAIN AMERICA FUUUU"
The reason She Hulk can control her form is that The Hulk is actually another identity Bruce made when he was a kid. He has dissociative identity disorder, caused by being abused by his dad and his dad killing his mom right before him. He has never told anyone about this and isn't aware of Hulk and Banner being two different people-ish. When he "merged" Hulk and banner he just came to terms with his childhood and became "normal".
that's the comic answer anyway.
What I want out of this show, besides Matt Murdock in a court room again, is for Jen to teach Bruce how to go from one to the other on command like she can. Idk if that's "realistic" but I want it.
but then that would mean theyre very similar. the point of that is so there is a clear distinction between Jen, who's just a regular person, and Bruce who experienced childhood trauma and has DID
@@AT32556 That's fair, but the heart wants what the heart wants lol
Hulk's blood has ALWAYS been a problem, Bruce freaks out about it in his movie.
EVERY Hulk movie has had Bruce's blood cause issues.
Ang Lee's Hulked out dogs, Abomination, Stan (became a Watcher agent), The Leader, Jen...everyone who has had contact with Bruce's blood has Hulked out in some way.
I loved the first Episode of She-Hulk a lot.
But I will say, that idea of Bruce having a different persona in Hulk form, but Jen not would work a lot better if the MCU had established the fact that Bruce has DID, caused by his childhood trauma. Especially seeing how this seems to be what some aspects of the episode seem to hint at. But hopefully if they are introducing it, we can see more of Bruce's story and his alternate personas...and hopefully it's handled with care too; in whatever project they decided to continue his story in now.
Also really liked how they updated Jennifer's Origin to make sense in a world where Bruce does know that his blood is dangerous. Now onwards with Jen's story.
A part of me was a little annoyed that it wasn't a blood transfusion that transformed her, but you're right it does make more sense for the blood to just accidentally mix with hers. For one, such a thing has shown to happen in the universe, for two I imagine Bruce would be very reluctant to give his blood to his cousin even if to save her life (though with that in mind, it potentially could work) because he knows something bad could happen if he does give her his blood.
On a side note: I thought she would have gotten her 4th wall breaking ability by getting a head injury in the crash and then getting transformed. Like it was a mix of head trauma and gamma radiation that allowed her to go slightly crazy and see past the 4th wall.
@@zacharybartolo5111 yeah, I totally get being annoyed at it not being the original one. But if she was created these days, even in the comics, I doubt Bruce would have given her his blood. Especially after Professor Hulk and Immortal Hulk.
I do wonder if they will explain weather or not her 4th wall breaking abilities were from the gamma blood or head trauma, both or even something to do with childhood. But I could see them just not explaining…it feels like a very modern mud thing to do now
i doubt we will get Bruce's story, because a lot of the things he says in this episode get brushed over real quick. it feels like Marvel is trying to make Bruce open up very slightly, and the episode could have very easily benefitted from 10 more minutes of Bruce and Jen talking about their lives
Having that put into the show would also reduce the impact of her explanation of why she is not out-of-control-hulking.
The showrunner and writers want this series to be (more) about Jen's story.
It isn't just that she did not experience childhood trauma, it really is because of what being a woman in the world is like.
The leader had an open wound on his head and Stan lees character digested the blood it wasn't a transfusion like the other two.
i'm team eric on the chopstick cheetos.
I like using em for really cheesy cheese popcorn too. really reduces hassle when snacking while doing stuff like gaming or typing :)
@Peter North it's a hassle to get dust and grease all over your keyboard or controller when you're having a snack while doing stuff ☺️
I liked that they explained plenty of things in this episodes, like why Bruce was human in the Shang-Chi end credits while still having his arm in a sling. The only downside is that by having the human Bruce there is little chance of Professor Hulk. If he had always been in Hulk form, then the reveal of the left-handed Professor Hulk persona could have introduced weird twists, since it wouldn't be Bruce using the stones to bring everyone back in Endgame, but an unknown persona who could have altered things that are brought up in the years to come.
Notice how Bruce said Steve Rogers "is" not a virgin.....I'm telling you he's not dead. He's living on the effin Moon.....👍😄👍
👀 I didn’t catch that!
I think he just don't want to acknowledge his death
@@lunatic5162 Could be, but it kinda felt very deliberate like we were meant to pick up on it but maybe it's just a red herring.........I'm just gonna keep believing Steve is alive on the moon until proven otherwise
42:26 World War Hulk took place on Earth.
I fucking love this show so far
“Captain America FUUUU.” So good. This episode is a little uneven but Maslany is PERFECT casting.
Definitely Steve told Bruce about how he lost his virginity to piss off Tony since he must have asked that same question a thousand times
Oh yeah!!! Steve would totally have done that !!! He could be a little shit when he wants too
He was making reference that the comic writers make the names like smart hulk , red hulk, grey hulk etc.
Her clothes at Bruce’s bar were lying there in the guest room until Tony returned… Tony’s drinking clothes.
It was to be expected but the CG looks better than we saw in the trailers. It's probably the best the Hulk has looked in the MCU.
Well... The Hulk wasn't what people were criticizing in the trailers