@@johnathoncastro I mean, the GM halftons have what, the 2.7L, 4.3L, 5.3L, and 6.2L? and a 3.0L diesel? How many more options do you need for motors? I would say GM is literally offering just about every truck and package(s) they can to make everyone across the board happy.
The 4.3 should be in every half ton. Tons of power, loads of torque. Decent fuel. Will do burnouts all day long. 227000 kms trouble free zero maintenance other than oil change every 12000 or so
You spoke my mind, this is always a bad idea for the long run, the motor is ok new, but this little singer turbo engine is way too overstressed pulling a full size truck - it will not last the long haul and its a bad deal to buy one for longevity, listen to it the damn thing sounds like it screaming its balls off even now. The average public just feels surprised with the turbo power but almost noone thinks about longevity and how overstressed this engine is, the engine belongs in a smaller lighter vehicle period. Its a BAD deal youre paying 51 grand for a truck that with an engine that wont do serious work for very long and is sure to fail early, HELL NO. In a truck this size its V8 all the way, even V6's dont last long in this big a truck. The public is so gullible, GM puts out these kind of combinations to try and get their overall fleet gas mileage down to satisfy the govt. regs. but the owner pays big time, this thing will be wheezing and burning oil. They did the same thing in the 70's with full size Buick Lesabres and V6's in the late 70's and it was a dysmal failure.
I have a 2021 Sierra 1500 2.7L Elevation. Between February and April 2021 I drove from Portland, Or to Palm Beach County, FL 1.5 times which is 3,200+mi each way. The last trip down to FL, the bed was packed with an estimate weight of 800lbs and a cargo carrier in the hitch with another 250lbs as I moved to the southeast from the PNW. I filled up with premium gas each time (24 gallon tank), I had it in AUTO=4WD HIGH, SPORT mode was on at all times and my avg MPH and MPG over the course of the trip was 79 MPH with 19.8 MPG. I didn't feel any loss of power with the extra weight, the brakes adjusted accordingly with great response and again the power was always there if/when I needed it. This is my first American truck in 24 yrs and I must say, I don't have any complaints at all! I took a different route each time, i.e. Desert (CA/NV/AZ), high-desert (Alvord Desert, OR), dirt roads, gravel roads, harsh rain, over Mt. Shasta in Northern California, open road and city streets, through the mountains in Utah during a white-out snow storm and some places that I may have forgotten lol. Again, no complaints!! The truck did what I expected and and more. I love the 8cyl (who wouldn't?) but I do feel like the 2.7L Turbo obviously has the same body as the larger motors but it drives/handles more car-like.
I was waiting for a comparison to the 2.7 Ford EcoBoost which I have a 2018 STX. What is turbo lag? The 2.7 has none! It claws off the line and screams up top. After a year I have no regrets getting the 2.7.
Marc Matthews - For what's worth.. Ford's a V6 SEQUENTIAL TWIN TURBO and GM's an I4 SINGLE TURBO. Both have the same displacement size, but should act differently...
Why? Because it's more efficient to drive around and you can fit more stuff in the bed than a smaller truck? Or is it because you can seat more people comfortably in the cab? Oh wait wait I know, maybe it's because dumb people think that the only use for a truck is what they specifically want to do with it and that's typically 'cool' people thinking trucks are all about raw power and max towing. You don't need a 6.2L V8 for a fleet company vehicle that's going to drive from one construction site to the next with a builders level and total station in the back and then an hour later drive to the next site. All you need is a truck that can fit your 8' story pole in the bed and a couple tripods and maybe 2 or 3 other guys to help you out.
dedalliance1 That’s what they make 1/4 ton trucks for. Anything you’ll need a 1/2 ton for needs more oomph than a little 4 banger gives. You don’t buy a full size truck for fuel economy.
dedalliance1 - I really do agree with you! There, now you won’t have to take all the heat! Hahaha joenissan proved exactly what you said to be correct. As the power grows in vehicles people think suddenly that 400 hp is the norm. This motor makes 310 hp and 340+ lb ft of torque. The torque is down around the 1200 rpm mark. What you are talking about is very true, that you need the room of a half ton but don’t need a big V8. The other part that joenissan missed (assuming he watched the full video?) was that the 2,7 litre is only 2 tenths of a second slower to 60mph than the 6.2 litre. (6.8 seconds vs 6.6 seconds). That also means that it is easily faster to 60 than the 5.3 litre!! In the city, how often do you exceed 60 mph? Even on the interstate, the 2.7 has higher payload capacities than the 5.3 and very comparable to the 6.2. How is this puny 4 cylinder lacking in power? It isn’t! Some people can’t get over the fact it is 4 cylinders. I stated elsewhere in the comments I would like the the 5.3 over the 4 cylinder. Purely for sound. I don’t need spectacular 0-60 times because I don’t race off the line with every launch. I am not hauling massive loads or pulling massive trailers. I have a 1 ton diesel to do that. My actual current truck is a 2019 F150, 5.0 litre. I also have two new farm trucks, 2019 F150, 2.7 litres SuperCabs for the bigger box. Both of these are faster than my 5.0 at about 3500 ft above sea level. GREAT work trucks fully supporting exactly what you, dedalliance 1, said! At least two of us think similarly!! Haha
I’ve had my 2019 2.7 Sierra SLE for about a year and a half now and I’m at 14k miles. I got a pretty good deal on it below sticker price at 42k. While yes, I would’ve preferred a v8, I’ve been very happy with the truck and it’s easily fulfilled every purpose I’ve ever needed it for. Currently I never tow anything, but when the day comes that I do (I’d like a boat in the next 5-10 years), I do think I’ll swap to a v8. It’s not even that I don’t think the 2.7 could handle it, but imo I just don’t think that’s what they were made for. But for those of you like me that just enjoy an everyday truck, the 4 cyl 2.7 does a perfectly solid job.
GM using a 4-cylinder engine for both a fullsize truck and a performance sedan and on top of that the same for both... They want to get saved by tax payers money again...
Mgoblagulkablong Your comment doesn’t even make sense. What’s the issue with GM using 1 engine for more than one vehicle if it more than fulfills it’s purpose in both?? GM uses this engine in their pickup trucks because they’re a great option for their intended purposes and they offer great fuel economy without sacrificing speed and losing too much capability. The 2.7 T 4-cylinder adequately powers 5,000+lbs full-size pickup trucks pushing them from 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. So how fast do you think it’ll efficiently move a 3,000lbs compact sport sedan that’s tuned for performance? Knowing GM, I’m sure it moves the CT4 very quickly especially mated to their more advanced 10-speed transmission while simultaneously getting better fuel economy than some thirstier performance competitors. What difference does it make if it’s the same or different 2.7T engine(s)? At this point you’re just a troll. Your comment appears to be nothing more than wishful thinking. Fortunately, they’re doing a great job so there won’t be any need for that anytime soon.
@@mybro727 You are clueless. Numbers on a paper and how fast a car does 0-60 tell you nothing about the characteristics of an engine. For a heavy truck the engine has too little displacement, depends too much on the turbo and has a lag until the turbo spools up. For a sports sedan the engine characteristic is even more out of place, people who buy this type of car don't want a low revving, bad sounding engine that runs out of steam at high rpm. Trucks need big displacement and engines without lag, sports sedans need good sounding engines with linear power delivery and good power at the top of the rev range.
Mgoblagulkablong Lol. No I can’t tell characteristics based on facts on a paper from the people who built the product nor does a 0-60 time give me the characteristics of a engine...but the man that’s reviewing the truck and giving his opinion definitely can provide characteristics and that’s what he just did. Have you experienced this engine yet in the GMC Sierra/Silverado, and Cadillac CT4? My educated guess is NO, you haven’t since 1 out of 3 isn’t even available at the moment and you haven’t stated you’ve driven the engine yourself. So how in the hell can you speak on the characteristics of something you haven’t experienced yet?? That doesn’t make any sense.
Nothing wrong with that. It generates sales and helps promote the brand. Are you saying that anyone that buys these trucks, if they are male, are any less of a man than someone who buys a V8 truck? The 5.3 is slower than this truck and has less payload. Must be a pavement princess as well. The 6.2 10 speed 1/2 ton is only 2 tenths of a second faster to 60 mph. Sounds like a mall crawler to me! Heheheh! They are trucks and they all have their place. If you want to be a bully and put someone down for driving a 4 cylinder truck, well thinks about it,,,, how old are we?
@@shitloveaduck relax, it's a joke not a dick so don't take it so hard. Was I "bullying" anyone with my statement? Did my words hurt you? Would you like to me to apologize for my opinion? Nothing wrong with a turbo 4 banger but in 1/2 ton pick up truck, it's a recipe for poor long term reliability. Most consumers would like a vehicle that doesn't break down or have catastrophic failure after the factory warranty runs out.
@@philmcclenaghan7056 welcome to the conversation a year later. Are you saying that trucks were never reliable or are you saying trucks aren't reliable now?
You know I hear a lot of people talk trash about GM 4 cylinder engines, but I can’t tell you how many Cavaliers with over 200k on the odometer. I think after this engine is tested and all the bugs get worked out, this engine will be fine for us granddads and those soccer moms, or the guy that hauls those lil plastic Kayaks to the river every week end and needs more comfort for 4 than his current Tacoma has. As always TFL second to none on YOuTube!
I have the Silverado with the 2.7 t. And I love it . Turbo lag is there from a stop . But on the hwy this thing flat out flys instant boost. And the wastegate on the turbo makes it sound like a turbo diesel. Really love the whistle. And push button/ remote start is amazing with heated steering wheel and seats this truck is amazing so it’s faster than a v6 and gets better mpg. It’s .3 seconds faster than the v8 but towed about 3k less and really I’m not gonna tow much. Personally. But payload is where this really shines at 2.2k
@@tl5108 Sort of the same shock we used to get when they showed US MPG numbers. Canadian cars and trucks got 20% better fuel mileage before the switch to metric (that the US backed out of).
I think the 4cyl is great and for my use of a pickup I would definitely consider it. As far as the people complaining about fuel economy: it still makes 310hp, and hp takes fuel.
HP only takes extra fuel when you're using the power. My 3.5 Ecoboost makes 375 hp and gets mileage as good or better, plus it will kick the 2.7's butt.
@@6packonlyripped604 I can only imagine. The ecoboost trucks also sound terrible. I’ve also gotten to the point in life where quiet mufflers are welcome.
2.7l turbo straight 4-cylinder Chevy or 2.7l turbo V-6 Ford? Straight 6 Cummins turbo diesel or V-8 turbo diesel Ford? They are just offering different solutions for people who want/need a pickup. There are no laws that state a pickup has to come with a V-8...what are people going to say when the first “silent” electric truck is available for purchase with power and torque available instantly, but without a hint of engine noise (unless a fake exhaust note is piped in through the speakers...) 2019...the rules have changed and we have techno-wars right in front of us. This is actually fun watching the manufacturers fight it out.
I love the elevation... it looks great, I like the the gas mileage and the bench seat in the front which makes it more practical to me. It has the right appearance. Plus most of us that need a truck, don't need it to tow, we need it to carry large items in the back (camping equipment, beach things, furniture for friends, etc.). So definitely looks and affordability, and practically are the primary concerns, not the tow rating.
THIS TRUCK WILL BE A DREAM FOR AFTERMARKET COMPANIES FOR A 5.3 CONVERSION PACKAGE WHEN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW THE 4 BANGER STARTS BLOWING UP. LETS FACE IT GM / HOLDEN DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WELL
Chevy is notorious for poor quality vehicles. The pickups and the Ls engines were their only reliable platforms... now they bring in something that belongs in a Chevy Cruze??? Oh man, gonna have Chevy car reliability in a work truck.
I would never purchase this engine either in fact I think the only reliable gm truck still made is the 2500 6.6 gas but this is a base engine and you would never see a longitudinal 2.7 i4 engine with 430 lb ft of torque in a Chevy cruise and compared to Ford and ram gm does not make unreliable trucks
Also he talks about better mpg but is that really the case if you have to rev out the engine all the time to get anywhere? I dont doubt it's better highway
No fan of the 4cyl (sales will tell the tale if the public says the same) but no chrome makes it look great in my opinion. If I can get a denali trim like that, I would. Oh and the Canyon, I'll take the black one too.
In almost every region of Canada, one is going to need winter tires. 18" rims are more than sufficient, considering the cost difference between 20 and 18.
@@deandrej674 What makes you think this truck will pull something or even itself with only 2 cylinders? The only time you'll see the cylinders deactivate is during hwy cruising. It's how they designed the engine it can sense that if its under load that all cylinders are going if it's cruising. If it's not straining itself then it just needs 2 cylinders to maintain that speed.
Newton Washinton well it seems like you don’t have any knowledge of motors from your comment. You people don’t understand the purpose of this engine, and just want V8 to compensate for your lack of masculinity. People get this engine not to tow, not to race, and not to impress, they buy it to comfortably drive around and occasionally tow something small while getting good gas mileage. You people just don’t get it, you don’t always need a V8 in your truck to have something nice, this turbo 4cyl it’s perfectly sufficient for every day use.
@@braddenr.4778 One day when you grow up and have some knowledge You will agree with me. When you use the term You People don't understand i hope you have a mirror.
Newton Washinton Um I’m not the one complaining about it, nor do I need to “grow up”, it seems to me that you need to grow up considering you need a V8 to be all manly and tuff I guess, pretty sad. And no I will not agree with you, here soon in the coming years, trucks with V8’s will be no more and these engines will be taking over, and then all electric after that. So how about you read up a little more before you start talking about a vehicle you don’t even own. And I use the term “you people” because others are saying the same thing as you, and it’s quite hysterical actually.
With today’s technology they don’t take an existing motor and add a turbo. This combination definitely overworks the engine. Today they design both together so the motor is not overworked, it is designed to exactly what it does. There is a very big difference. Same thing they have been doing with turbo diesels for forever. The Cummins in the Rams/Dodges. An in-line 6 designed with the turbocharger as a package to become extremely strong. These motors are not designed like engines in the past. Objectively you can’t compare them to the old gas turbo 4 cylinders. Subjectively almost everyone compares them to the old motors. I believe you may be surprised by the longevity of these motors. My bigger worry is about the complexity of motors these days.
You have no reason to say it is overworked. GM knows how to design a durable refined 4 cylinder. Nothing new here. They perfected these engines over 15 years ago. No reason to suspect any more problem than any new engine.
The fact that it’s a 4 cylinder in a full size truck is shaking up the market. A 6 cylinder turbo would just be an EcoBoost copycat (although it is bound to happen eventually).
Jessa Phillips The Ecoboost 6 of same displacement beats this engine in every category and its four years old. They could have easily adapted their 3.6 or 3.0 V6 TTs for truck use. Would have been cheaper for them in the end as the tooling and parts already exist.
The 2018 Sierra (base) with the Elevation package was a perfect match for me. However, to get into a 2019 Elevation, with comparable options, including a V8, and 2 speed transfer case, like my 2018 has, the MSRP is around $7k CAD higher. Ouch! I'm glad I got a 2018.
Got this truck as a loner vehicle. 2.7 has some get up and go! This is the package to buy if all use a truck for is weekend to do list, and as a daily driver. Little noisy when you stomp the gas down. you need to put this on your list of trucks to road test when looking for a new truck.
Not even on the same level. 2.7EB spanks the 2.7 L3B in everything except MPGs, where the EB isn't really a slouch either. Twin turbo with more aggressive low end torque for 18+ vs a single turbo turtle of a 4banger...
MrEpic6060 is your eye site bad? Just curious if you had trouble seeing what you typed while proof reading. Because my eye is very good as are many others so don’t feel we need all caps.
I test drove a Chevy with th3 5.3 and I am not impressed. I love the way the new body style looks, but would have to get a 6.2L. That would price me out unfortunately. I ended up with another Titan thanks to Rick Hendrick Chevrolet. I like what they are trying to do with the 4 cylinder, but they should have used a Turbo V6.
An in-line turbo is the most reliable stronger fastest way to do a turbo v6 couldn't do an in-line turbo would have to do a box turbo that has a huge fail rate and if you dont cool your truck off after 30 seconds atleast with engine running chances of over heating a turbo on top of that it interferes with the start stop technology and ford implemented it in there v6 turbos and anyone that doesn't know that is burning them up after warranty turbo will set you back like 3k at Ford
I went to the GMC dealership today I had no idea they were putting 4 cylinders in full size trucks even in 4x4 Sierras . I talked to the salesman about it . He said they are to keep prices down and that there's a lot of people buying trucks to use as a car instead of a truck . Meaning they will never use them for work or towing or hauling . The only thing they will put in the back is a golf bag or groceries . People that drive less than 10K miles per year .
No it doesn’t. Look up actual videos it’s take the 3.5 to get under 6 and by the way chevys tow the most at 13,700lbs your 5.0 only tows 11,000lbs at most
It's called a street truck. The S10 and 1st Gen Colorado called it Xtreme. They also dropped the ride height though. I miss street trucks. Urban delivery can use a LUV type truck.
It says the Elevation package comes with the terrain select option but does that include a 2-speed transfer case or is it sill single speed but with better terrain management?
I can say this my friend has the eco boost, and Finley got a different truck to pull his camper because it has hard time going up hills. He told me he has to keep his foot in it to much
I think they are finally getting it. Most consumers have very different needs and the elevation package would be right up my ally and at a price that’s affordable. For others this would t work as there hauling needs or work truck requirements may not fit this bill. Only thing missing is body colored mirror caps to this package. Loved what dodge did with there midnight package. Lot of truck at a decent price when you get the rebates for these trucks.
I would say a big reason the Elevation sells more in Canada is the fact that for 2019 you can’t get a crew cab elevation in the states. Just double cab. That’s changing for 2020 though.
In the real world, turbo engines in trucks/SUVs almost never get better fuel economy than their larger N/A counterparts. You can browse through Fuelly.com data from actual owners and see the trends. It's noticeable in everything from Jeeps to full size trucks; the turbo engines drink more fuel to make that power.
Dynamic Fuel Management. The 4.3l still has Active Fuel Management. To be honest after driving both AFM and DFM trucks. DFM is by far the better system.
Jaime Gutierrez - look closer. The MPG is listed as well. The 4.3 gets less fuel economy. It really has lived past its prime and should be put out to pasture
I have had two 4-cyl GM vehicles and the engines were junk. Last Equinox I traded with 80,000 miles on the clock, burnt 2 quarts of oil per 1,000 miles, GM said it was normal. The day I traded it in I got a recall notice stating it had defective piston rings. I will EVER buy another GM vehicle. Yes, that 4-cyl is two small for that big behemoth. I have a 2.7L F-150, no turbo lag.
Do you know if the GMC is faking the exhaust note by using the audio system like the Ford Raptor does? When you bury your foot, it actually sounds pretty good for bring a little 4-banger.
Patrick plumber under load yes! But like he said, it’s geared towards city folk who want a daily driver with the room and bed and to occasionally tow a (likely small) trailer. Plus, not everyone uses trucks for major hauling, whether towing or not, but to haul family with a lot of luggage or equipment in the bed instead of trying to cram it in an suv. For them it might make more sense.
@@AdonaiNate I made that comment 2 years ago at this point I would be happy with a hybrid truck I still think a 4 cylinder would end being a little disappointing in a full size truck but I’m not as opposed as I once was to the idea
Lots of folks on here seem to think every truck will be used to tow a large trailer every week. What about those who like the room inside for their family, and the larger (compared to smaller trucks) bed to fill with all their luggage, sports equipment, or camping gear. You don’t need a big v8’s for that. The v6 fits better. But this gets even better mpg’s. Not much, but they add up. Pickups are the new family sedan, whether we like it or not, and families need better mpg’s, not always better towing. Seems like people aren’t always trying to see why the manufacturers do what they do. Don’t tow? Nice 4 banger. Tow some? V6 or 5.3? Tow a lot? 6.2! Or move up to heavy duty....
I dig it. I have a V8 Dakota. This engine puts out more power and torque than my V8, and fits my truck needs better. I haul a kayak and some fishing gear. I towed one small trailer to move some stuff. All my stuff will fit in a long bed and that small trailer. I don't need a V8. I'd really like to take one of these with the 2.7 for a test drive. And despite fuel being cheap at the typing of this comment, it will go up. Anyone commenting saying that they don't care about fuel prices hasn't been hard enough to care. And when they do, they'll regret their short-sighted thinking when they said they didn't care about fuel economy.
How is it people think cylinder count determines longevity? I can agree the turbo eventually will wear out, but that might happen once in the total useful life of any halfton truck. It's not like the majority of V8 for life people will ever fix their own anyway. The arguments against are pretty thin. The obvious exception - V8 sounds like V8.
Why can I not get the crew cab Elevation in the US? We can only get an extended cab. Look at the US webpage and build and price. I would love the crew cab, in the Elevation. It gives way more options than the Custom in the Silverado.
I just looked at one of these yesterday not knowing it was a 4 banger. I'm all about my four cylinders especially owning a turbo K series. But I would never put it in a full-size trucks and expect it not to be overworked especially if you're towing. The Ecoboost v6 that's one thing but a turbo 4-cylinder..
Elevation Package huh... Yea, I would have to be at an oxygen starved elevation where I could no longer make rational decisions before I opted for an overly complex, under-sized, over-stressed engine with bare minimal payoff in fuel economy. Name makes sense 👍
Everyone is missing the point, for everyone out there with a 3.5 eco or 2.7 eco or 5.3, 6.2, 5.0, 5.7 v8 complaining about gas mileage well you asked for it and here it is. Forged 4 banger technology to back it. I think this is a great full size gas saver.
sammy duran they just showed the averages. It’s the same as Ecoboost 3.5 and worse than 2.7. Obviously it’s boost or eco with those engines, so if you’re in boost you’ll get shit mileage
@@alanthesalamander2327 I didn't watch the review all through on this channel but on the other channels this new motor out performed the 2 EBs no doubt. I'll watch this video all the way. through
sammy duran what???? In what world? These are Twin Turbo V6s, vs a smaller 4 cylinder single turbo. The numbers don’t back up your statement, sorry. This 4 banger doesn’t put up the performance of the ecoboosts, or the efficiency.
Guys I'm living in a worm area similar to Texas and I'm thinking about buying a 2000-2006 GMC Yukon Denali is it a good buy because where I live it's the best bang for the buck
The next 5 years, I promise you, there will be US and others ((1.5 Liters Full-Size tracks)). The V8 tracks will be a treasure and you will be lucky if you have one. 😊
i wanted more torque for towing. 430 ft lbs vs 383 ft lbs in old high revving antiquated V8, so I went turbo 2.7. Just like Ford 2.7 V6 turbo, & Ram 3.0 I6 turbo replacing V8's.
These motors are jokes, the 4 cylinder only gets 2mpg better then the better built V8 so you'll get worst gas mileage overall in real world driving, due to having to get on it due to its weight and if you haul anything. This is only to save GM money, 4 cylinder motors are cheaper to manufacture. Save your money and get the V8, overall for durability and capabilities over the 4 banger is quite clear.
I don't understand GM's marketing. You can't get the 6.2 in lower trim packages. The best engine is the 5.3? With Ram & Ford you can get the best gas towing/engine packages in low trim packages. I bought a 2019 Ford 150 XLT Crew Cab RWD 302A Sport Package with the 3.5 Ecoboost and Max tow package, 20 in wheel $52 SRP (I paid 39K 👍). Still pricey though... These packages are hard to find but they are out there, and they can be ordered. Try to get one from Chevy or GMC... Nope! The GMC Elevate Package looks pretty good though, I like it better than the Chevy version.
The average buyer of these 1/2 ton pickups is using it almost entirely as a car, rather than a tower/hauler, so this 4 banger will fill the power needs of the average driver just fine. What would give me cause for concern is GM's reliability history with 4 cylinder engines. Generally speaking, GM has made crap 4 cylinder engines, so I'd not want to be a test monkey for this latest engine, especially at today's truck prices.
That 2.7T needs to be on the Colorado/Canyon. Actually it should be the standard on the ZR2 with an option for diesel.
Yes but as we all know these car companys are ass backwards and never listen to us the consumers.
@@johnathoncastro 👍🏻😂
@@johnathoncastro I mean, the GM halftons have what, the 2.7L, 4.3L, 5.3L, and 6.2L? and a 3.0L diesel? How many more options do you need for motors? I would say GM is literally offering just about every truck and package(s) they can to make everyone across the board happy.
Johnathon Castro GM doesn’t give a shit and those interiors looks the same from 2014 which is just an awful design the Ram looks better
@@La-yt1wr ram is 100% better. The rebel and bighorn are amazing
Who cares about 2 more mpg's...really?? I rather have the 8cylinder and not worry about blowing the turbo or over working the motor.
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Well I mean there’s a lot of eco boost engines that already have over 200k mikes in them..
Engines are motors genius
@@NGGPeter motor is electric, not the same as engine.
No, lol. A motor can be electric or gas. An engine is only gas, never electric. All engines are motors but not all motors are engines.
That engine would be a great option for the Canyon/Colorado. Not for any full size truck. Go for the 5.3 or 6.2 liter V8
The 4.3 should be in every half ton. Tons of power, loads of torque. Decent fuel. Will do burnouts all day long. 227000 kms trouble free zero maintenance other than oil change every 12000 or so
they saw your comment and made it a reality
This would be a good motor for a Colorado. I couldn't pay that for a 4banger.
Exactly what I was thinking. I dunno why this is in the half ton... it should be in the mini trucks. It would be a great engine for that platform.
It would be a good engine for a lawn mower! A truck, no way.
I think what you're thinking is what a lot of people are thinking. Even if it's a terrific powerplant in every way, it's still a four cylinder.
300+ hp 300+ftlb torque... more powerful than V8's a few years back... Why did people feel "small" regarding the cylinders... lol...
You spoke my mind, this is always a bad idea for the long run, the motor is ok new, but this little singer turbo engine is way too overstressed pulling a full size truck - it will not last the long haul and its a bad deal to buy one for longevity, listen to it the damn thing sounds like it screaming its balls off even now. The average public just feels surprised with the turbo power but almost noone thinks about longevity and how overstressed this engine is, the engine belongs in a smaller lighter vehicle period. Its a BAD deal youre paying 51 grand for a truck that with an engine that wont do serious work for very long and is sure to fail early, HELL NO. In a truck this size its V8 all the way, even V6's dont last long in this big a truck. The public is so gullible, GM puts out these kind of combinations to try and get their overall fleet gas mileage down to satisfy the govt. regs. but the owner pays big time, this thing will be wheezing and burning oil. They did the same thing in the 70's with full size Buick Lesabres and V6's in the late 70's and it was a dysmal failure.
I have a 2021 Sierra 1500 2.7L Elevation. Between February and April 2021 I drove from Portland, Or to Palm Beach County, FL 1.5 times which is 3,200+mi each way. The last trip down to FL, the bed was packed with an estimate weight of 800lbs and a cargo carrier in the hitch with another 250lbs as I moved to the southeast from the PNW. I filled up with premium gas each time (24 gallon tank), I had it in AUTO=4WD HIGH, SPORT mode was on at all times and my avg MPH and MPG over the course of the trip was 79 MPH with 19.8 MPG. I didn't feel any loss of power with the extra weight, the brakes adjusted accordingly with great response and again the power was always there if/when I needed it. This is my first American truck in 24 yrs and I must say, I don't have any complaints at all! I took a different route each time, i.e. Desert (CA/NV/AZ), high-desert (Alvord Desert, OR), dirt roads, gravel roads, harsh rain, over Mt. Shasta in Northern California, open road and city streets, through the mountains in Utah during a white-out snow storm and some places that I may have forgotten lol. Again, no complaints!! The truck did what I expected and and more. I love the 8cyl (who wouldn't?) but I do feel like the 2.7L Turbo obviously has the same body as the larger motors but it drives/handles more car-like.
Nice review from an actual owner.
Another owner trying so desperately to justify their poor financial decision.🤣 but cool story.
I was waiting for a comparison to the 2.7 Ford EcoBoost which I have a 2018 STX. What is turbo lag? The 2.7 has none! It claws off the line and screams up top. After a year I have no regrets getting the 2.7.
Marc Matthews - For what's worth.. Ford's a V6 SEQUENTIAL TWIN TURBO and GM's an I4 SINGLE TURBO.
Both have the same displacement size, but should act differently...
Nice looking but a 4 banger in a full size truck is like dating a chic with no lady parts.
Why? Because it's more efficient to drive around and you can fit more stuff in the bed than a smaller truck? Or is it because you can seat more people comfortably in the cab? Oh wait wait I know, maybe it's because dumb people think that the only use for a truck is what they specifically want to do with it and that's typically 'cool' people thinking trucks are all about raw power and max towing. You don't need a 6.2L V8 for a fleet company vehicle that's going to drive from one construction site to the next with a builders level and total station in the back and then an hour later drive to the next site. All you need is a truck that can fit your 8' story pole in the bed and a couple tripods and maybe 2 or 3 other guys to help you out.
dedalliance1 That’s what they make 1/4 ton trucks for. Anything you’ll need a 1/2 ton for needs more oomph than a little 4 banger gives. You don’t buy a full size truck for fuel economy.
Smarter Than You lol, no....that would be a 2WD truck with a 4 banger!
dedalliance1 - I really do agree with you! There, now you won’t have to take all the heat! Hahaha
joenissan proved exactly what you said to be correct. As the power grows in vehicles people think suddenly that 400 hp is the norm. This motor makes 310 hp and 340+ lb ft of torque. The torque is down around the 1200 rpm mark. What you are talking about is very true, that you need the room of a half ton but don’t need a big V8. The other part that joenissan missed (assuming he watched the full video?) was that the 2,7 litre is only 2 tenths of a second slower to 60mph than the 6.2 litre. (6.8 seconds vs 6.6 seconds). That also means that it is easily faster to 60 than the 5.3 litre!! In the city, how often do you exceed 60 mph? Even on the interstate, the 2.7 has higher payload capacities than the 5.3 and very comparable to the 6.2. How is this puny 4 cylinder lacking in power? It isn’t! Some people can’t get over the fact it is 4 cylinders.
I stated elsewhere in the comments I would like the the 5.3 over the 4 cylinder. Purely for sound. I don’t need spectacular 0-60 times because I don’t race off the line with every launch. I am not hauling massive loads or pulling massive trailers. I have a 1 ton diesel to do that.
My actual current truck is a 2019 F150, 5.0 litre. I also have two new farm trucks, 2019 F150, 2.7 litres SuperCabs for the bigger box. Both of these are faster than my 5.0 at about 3500 ft above sea level. GREAT work trucks fully supporting exactly what you, dedalliance 1, said!
At least two of us think similarly!! Haha
joenissan or a chic with a b cup bra size!
I'm with everyone else on this. The 4banger should be in the Canyon.
Don't buy the 2.7 turbo. Get a 5.3 or 6.2 instead if you want a Silverado or Sierra. You'll be happier with a V8 in the long run.
Why?
More crazy truck prices. That base model Frontier you reviewed is looking better and better all the time.
I’m looking for a used 2011+ Silverado 5.3 4x4 and almost all are 15-17k with 130-150k miles!! What’s left on it 50k miles?
Zesty Meatballs might as well get a 17” mid trim Sierra by the looks of it for 26k. Finance something you will like. I don’t like these new ones.
I’ve had my 2019 2.7 Sierra SLE for about a year and a half now and I’m at 14k miles. I got a pretty good deal on it below sticker price at 42k. While yes, I would’ve preferred a v8, I’ve been very happy with the truck and it’s easily fulfilled every purpose I’ve ever needed it for. Currently I never tow anything, but when the day comes that I do (I’d like a boat in the next 5-10 years), I do think I’ll swap to a v8. It’s not even that I don’t think the 2.7 could handle it, but imo I just don’t think that’s what they were made for. But for those of you like me that just enjoy an everyday truck, the 4 cyl 2.7 does a perfectly solid job.
GM using a 4-cylinder engine for both a fullsize truck and a performance sedan and on top of that the same for both...
They want to get saved by tax payers money again...
Mgoblagulkablong Your comment doesn’t even make sense. What’s the issue with GM using 1 engine for more than one vehicle if it more than fulfills it’s purpose in both?? GM uses this engine in their pickup trucks because they’re a great option for their intended purposes and they offer great fuel economy without sacrificing speed and losing too much capability.
The 2.7 T 4-cylinder adequately powers 5,000+lbs full-size pickup trucks pushing them from 0-60 in just over 6 seconds. So how fast do you think it’ll efficiently move a 3,000lbs compact sport sedan that’s tuned for performance? Knowing GM, I’m sure it moves the CT4 very quickly especially mated to their more advanced 10-speed transmission while simultaneously getting better fuel economy than some thirstier performance competitors. What difference does it make if it’s the same or different 2.7T engine(s)?
At this point you’re just a troll. Your comment appears to be nothing more than wishful thinking. Fortunately, they’re doing a great job so there won’t be any need for that anytime soon.
@@mybro727 You are clueless. Numbers on a paper and how fast a car does 0-60 tell you nothing about the characteristics of an engine. For a heavy truck the engine has too little displacement, depends too much on the turbo and has a lag until the turbo spools up. For a sports sedan the engine characteristic is even more out of place, people who buy this type of car don't want a low revving, bad sounding engine that runs out of steam at high rpm. Trucks need big displacement and engines without lag, sports sedans need good sounding engines with linear power delivery and good power at the top of the rev range.
Mgoblagulkablong Lol. No I can’t tell characteristics based on facts on a paper from the people who built the product nor does a 0-60 time give me the characteristics of a engine...but the man that’s reviewing the truck and giving his opinion definitely can provide characteristics and that’s what he just did.
Have you experienced this engine yet in the GMC Sierra/Silverado, and Cadillac CT4? My educated guess is NO, you haven’t since 1 out of 3 isn’t even available at the moment and you haven’t stated you’ve driven the engine yourself. So how in the hell can you speak on the characteristics of something you haven’t experienced yet?? That doesn’t make any sense.
Mgoblagulkablong they put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro as well. Yeah lemme take a hit of what GM is smoking. It must be some good shit! Lol
Summed it up perfectly when you said "city slicker special". Add that phrase along with mall crawler, pavement princess and man wagon.
Nothing wrong with that. It generates sales and helps promote the brand. Are you saying that anyone that buys these trucks, if they are male, are any less of a man than someone who buys a V8 truck? The 5.3 is slower than this truck and has less payload. Must be a pavement princess as well. The 6.2 10 speed 1/2 ton is only 2 tenths of a second faster to 60 mph. Sounds like a mall crawler to me! Heheheh!
They are trucks and they all have their place. If you want to be a bully and put someone down for driving a 4 cylinder truck, well thinks about it,,,, how old are we?
@@shitloveaduck relax, it's a joke not a dick so don't take it so hard. Was I "bullying" anyone with my statement? Did my words hurt you? Would you like to me to apologize for my opinion? Nothing wrong with a turbo 4 banger but in 1/2 ton pick up truck, it's a recipe for poor long term reliability. Most consumers would like a vehicle that doesn't break down or have catastrophic failure after the factory warranty runs out.
About 95% of trucks out there
@@s13one80 sorry but I don't remember trucks being reliable before this? Look up the reliability - most get 3/5
@@philmcclenaghan7056 welcome to the conversation a year later. Are you saying that trucks were never reliable or are you saying trucks aren't reliable now?
You know I hear a lot of people talk trash about GM 4 cylinder engines, but I can’t tell you how many Cavaliers with over 200k on the odometer. I think after this engine is tested and all the bugs get worked out, this engine will be fine for us granddads and those soccer moms, or the guy that hauls those lil plastic Kayaks to the river every week end and needs more comfort for 4 than his current Tacoma has. As always TFL second to none on YOuTube!
I have the Silverado with the 2.7 t. And I love it . Turbo lag is there from a stop . But on the hwy this thing flat out flys instant boost. And the wastegate on the turbo makes it sound like a turbo diesel. Really love the whistle. And push button/ remote start is amazing with heated steering wheel and seats this truck is amazing so it’s faster than a v6 and gets better mpg. It’s .3 seconds faster than the v8 but towed about 3k less and really I’m not gonna tow much. Personally. But payload is where this really shines at 2.2k
Loving that 2.7L not everyone tows, so not everyone needs a V8 Great review! Black Canyon for me! 😊
No, everyone needs a V8
I was confused at the “lower” mpg then looked up top and noticed it’s l/100km 😂
Yeah same. I was like Jesus that's god awful.
Then i was like. O they using them communist numbers
@@tl5108 Sort of the same shock we used to get when they showed US MPG numbers. Canadian cars and trucks got 20% better fuel mileage before the switch to metric (that the US backed out of).
Dealer gave me one as a loner. If all your going to do with a truck is home Depot runs this is a good truck
I think the 4cyl is great and for my use of a pickup I would definitely consider it. As far as the people complaining about fuel economy: it still makes 310hp, and hp takes fuel.
HP only takes extra fuel when you're using the power. My 3.5 Ecoboost makes 375 hp and gets mileage as good or better, plus it will kick the 2.7's butt.
I heard one with upgraded exhaust lol not going joke but sound like shit 😂
@@6packonlyripped604 I can only imagine. The ecoboost trucks also sound terrible. I’ve also gotten to the point in life where quiet mufflers are welcome.
This configuration is great for those that only have a need for a midsize capability, but want full size cabins.
2.7l turbo straight 4-cylinder Chevy or 2.7l turbo V-6 Ford?
Straight 6 Cummins turbo diesel or V-8 turbo diesel Ford?
They are just offering different solutions for people who want/need a pickup. There are no laws that state a pickup has to come with a V-8...what are people going to say when the first “silent” electric truck is available for purchase with power and torque available instantly, but without a hint of engine noise (unless a fake exhaust note is piped in through the speakers...)
2019...the rules have changed and we have techno-wars right in front of us. This is actually fun watching the manufacturers fight it out.
Won’t last long..... most ppl don’t know how to drive a turbo.... surely dog this thing n shut it right off 😂😂😂
I like the red canyon
I like the elevation package but i feel i cant justify the price
I love the elevation... it looks great, I like the the gas mileage and the bench seat in the front which makes it more practical to me. It has the right appearance. Plus most of us that need a truck, don't need it to tow, we need it to carry large items in the back (camping equipment, beach things, furniture for friends, etc.). So definitely looks and affordability, and practically are the primary concerns, not the tow rating.
Agreed! If you’re going to tow buy a HD!
To answer the question of the title of this video yes the engine is too small
THIS TRUCK WILL BE A DREAM FOR AFTERMARKET COMPANIES FOR A 5.3 CONVERSION PACKAGE WHEN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW THE 4 BANGER STARTS BLOWING UP. LETS FACE IT GM / HOLDEN DOESN'T DO ANYTHING WELL
STOP YELLING
A 4 cylinder in a 1500 that you have to pay extra for.🤣🤣
There's a sucker born every minute.
It's the standard engine not an upcharge
Unfortunately the elevation in the US only comes in double cab and not crew cab
2020 available in crew in USA. in 2019 it was only available in Canada
That metallic red Canyon Elevation is what I'd pick in a heartbeat.... That color paint looks tremendous when it's not monsoon season...
As said by Yamaha " there is no replacement for displacement" Ill take my v8 anyday
Chevy is notorious for poor quality vehicles. The pickups and the Ls engines were their only reliable platforms... now they bring in something that belongs in a Chevy Cruze??? Oh man, gonna have Chevy car reliability in a work truck.
I would never purchase this engine either in fact I think the only reliable gm truck still made is the 2500 6.6 gas but this is a base engine and you would never see a longitudinal 2.7 i4 engine with 430 lb ft of torque in a Chevy cruise and compared to Ford and ram gm does not make unreliable trucks
A 6cyl in a FULL SIZE is bad but there is no place for a 4cyl in a Full size
Toyota did. I wouldn't no place. Your light duty suburbanite for the occasional Home Depot run on weekends.
Only if this truck is $19k
@@rxonmymind8362 what's your definition of light duty a midsize pick up ? And very true home depot trucks for burnouts lol
51 grand for a full size truck with a turbo 4 cylinder 😂😂!?!?
51k Canadian, it's around 45k US
@@glsracer still a little much dont ya think?
GM is snorting crack from each other’s ass cracks
"51 grand for a full size truck!?!?." There, fixed it.
2023 crew cab 4wd 2.7 turbo $50,500 sticker. Bought for $36,800. $6,000 less than 5.3 truck. 10% more torque from 2.7. No brainer.
Also he talks about better mpg but is that really the case if you have to rev out the engine all the time to get anywhere? I dont doubt it's better highway
No fan of the 4cyl (sales will tell the tale if the public says the same) but no chrome makes it look great in my opinion. If I can get a denali trim like that, I would.
Oh and the Canyon, I'll take the black one too.
The 2.7T is suppose to be more fuel efficient.. the EPA numbers say that you'll get the same mpg with the 5.3L and tow more.. so where's the savings?
There isn't. GM should axe the 4 cylinder for their full size trucks. The 4 cylinder is best for the Colorado/Canyon platform.
In almost every region of Canada, one is going to need winter tires. 18" rims are more than sufficient, considering the cost difference between 20 and 18.
Is this the same 4 cylinder with the cylinder deactivation? If so then this POS ain’t gonna last very long
Why would you want something like that in a i4? Are they really trying to make 2 cylinders move a 5kpound pickup?
@@deandrej674 I believe the current V8 can go all the way down to 1!
@@deandrej674
In Arizona on flat flat ground. No problem. Here in the hills of San Francisco or Oregon.
Nope to the nope.
@@james2042 light duty trucks, maybe. I believe the heavy duty truck engine does not have cylinder deactivation.
@@deandrej674
What makes you think this truck will pull something or even itself with only 2 cylinders? The only time you'll see the cylinders deactivate is during hwy cruising. It's how they designed the engine it can sense that if its under load that all cylinders are going if it's cruising. If it's not straining itself then it just needs 2 cylinders to maintain that speed.
NO ONE with any knowledge of motors will buy this 4 cyl. truck. All this truck does is make me want a Ford 5.0 Coyote.
Newton Washinton well it seems like you don’t have any knowledge of motors from your comment. You people don’t understand the purpose of this engine, and just want V8 to compensate for your lack of masculinity. People get this engine not to tow, not to race, and not to impress, they buy it to comfortably drive around and occasionally tow something small while getting good gas mileage. You people just don’t get it, you don’t always need a V8 in your truck to have something nice, this turbo 4cyl it’s perfectly sufficient for every day use.
@@braddenr.4778 One day when you grow up and have some knowledge You will agree with me. When you use the term You People don't understand i hope you have a mirror.
Newton Washinton Um I’m not the one complaining about it, nor do I need to “grow up”, it seems to me that you need to grow up considering you need a V8 to be all manly and tuff I guess, pretty sad. And no I will not agree with you, here soon in the coming years, trucks with V8’s will be no more and these engines will be taking over, and then all electric after that. So how about you read up a little more before you start talking about a vehicle you don’t even own. And I use the term “you people” because others are saying the same thing as you, and it’s quite hysterical actually.
@@braddenr.4778 All i can say is Knowledge is power and yes one day you will agree with me. Thank you for your expert insight to the future.
Newton Washinton We will see, considering emissions will push V8’s out of trucks, but what do I know, it’s only completely obvious😉
I bet that in a few years those trucks will be needing new engines. Nothing like over working a 4 cylinder and turbo.
With today’s technology they don’t take an existing motor and add a turbo. This combination definitely overworks the engine. Today they design both together so the motor is not overworked, it is designed to exactly what it does. There is a very big difference. Same thing they have been doing with turbo diesels for forever. The Cummins in the Rams/Dodges. An in-line 6 designed with the turbocharger as a package to become extremely strong. These motors are not designed like engines in the past. Objectively you can’t compare them to the old gas turbo 4 cylinders. Subjectively almost everyone compares them to the old motors. I believe you may be surprised by the longevity of these motors. My bigger worry is about the complexity of motors these days.
shitloveaduck - You might be right.... Time will tell!
Daniel Sweeney - that or in a couple years time you will be reminding me that its time to eat some crow!! Haha
You have no reason to say it is overworked. GM knows how to design a durable refined 4 cylinder. Nothing new here. They perfected these engines over 15 years ago. No reason to suspect any more problem than any new engine.
Yeah, this is NOT the 1980's any more.
They could have made a 6 cylinder turbo and shook up the market, don't talk 4 cylinder unless the mpgs are in 30's.
That engine is a waste of time.
The fact that it’s a 4 cylinder in a full size truck is shaking up the market. A 6 cylinder turbo would just be an EcoBoost copycat (although it is bound to happen eventually).
Jessa Phillips The Ecoboost 6 of same displacement beats this engine in every category and its four years old. They could have easily adapted their 3.6 or 3.0 V6 TTs for truck use. Would have been cheaper for them in the end as the tooling and parts already exist.
The 2018 Sierra (base) with the Elevation package was a perfect match for me. However, to get into a 2019 Elevation, with comparable options, including a V8, and 2 speed transfer case, like my 2018 has, the MSRP is around $7k CAD higher. Ouch! I'm glad I got a 2018.
Very well made video. Quite informative yet easy to understand. Will look out for other TFL videos.
1:43 who ever would’ve thought GM hooked the transmission directly to the turbo. That is innovation right there!
Got this truck as a loner vehicle. 2.7 has some get up and go! This is the package to buy if all use a truck for is weekend to do list, and as a daily driver. Little noisy when you stomp the gas down. you need to put this on your list of trucks to road test when looking for a new truck.
This engine makes sense. I don’t see them keeping the NA v6 for much longer. Same with ford. I think ford will give us a 4 cylinder soon as well.
Now make a video ford 2.7 ecoboost against Gmc or Chevy 2.7 who is faster and which pulls better etc gas mileage
Not even on the same level. 2.7EB spanks the 2.7 L3B in everything except MPGs, where the EB isn't really a slouch either. Twin turbo with more aggressive low end torque for 18+ vs a single turbo turtle of a 4banger...
I’m pretty sure they’ve already done that and the 2.7 EcoBoost dominated....
2.7 ECOBOOST FROM FORD IS A V6 WITH MORE HP, TORQUE AND TOW RATINGS. GMC AND CHEVY USING 4 CYLINDERS...NOT IMPRESSED 🙄
MrEpic6060 is your eye site bad? Just curious if you had trouble seeing what you typed while proof reading. Because my eye is very good as are many others so don’t feel we need all caps.
Another channel did this. The Ford dominated.
I test drove a Chevy with th3 5.3 and I am not impressed. I love the way the new body style looks, but would have to get a 6.2L. That would price me out unfortunately. I ended up with another Titan thanks to Rick Hendrick Chevrolet. I like what they are trying to do with the 4 cylinder, but they should have used a Turbo V6.
An in-line turbo is the most reliable stronger fastest way to do a turbo v6 couldn't do an in-line turbo would have to do a box turbo that has a huge fail rate and if you dont cool your truck off after 30 seconds atleast with engine running chances of over heating a turbo on top of that it interferes with the start stop technology and ford implemented it in there v6 turbos and anyone that doesn't know that is burning them up after warranty turbo will set you back like 3k at Ford
I went to the GMC dealership today I had no idea they were putting 4 cylinders in full size trucks even in 4x4 Sierras . I talked to the salesman about it . He said they are to keep prices down and that there's a lot of people buying trucks to use as a car instead of a truck . Meaning they will never use them for work or towing or hauling . The only thing they will put in the back is a golf bag or groceries . People that drive less than 10K miles per year .
Sierra with the 6.2l v8 does 0-60 in under 6 seconds. To be exact it is about 5.8 seconds
THATS WHAT MY LITTLE 5.0L COYOTE V8 DOES IN MY F150 S/C WHICH SPANKS THESE TRUCKS IN POWER, TOWING AND HANDLING.
No it doesn’t. Look up actual videos it’s take the 3.5 to get under 6 and by the way chevys tow the most at 13,700lbs your 5.0 only tows 11,000lbs at most
It's called a street truck. The S10 and 1st Gen Colorado called it Xtreme. They also dropped the ride height though. I miss street trucks. Urban delivery can use a LUV type truck.
It says the Elevation package comes with the terrain select option but does that include a 2-speed transfer case or is it sill single speed but with better terrain management?
Is this a good engine for people that uses trucks just as a commuter no hauling no heavy lifting?
I mean ya, however it's the diesel that I'm super interested in
Might as well get the 5.3 you will b way way more satisfied with it even if u don’t haul or tow with it
That’s a nice Sierra
*pops the hood*
Oh god never mind
I can say this my friend has the eco boost, and Finley got a different truck to pull his camper because it has hard time going up hills. He told me he has to keep his foot in it to much
everything you said about the truck was what i was already thinking, basically a sporty truck. :)
I think they are finally getting it. Most consumers have very different needs and the elevation package would be right up my ally and at a price that’s affordable. For others this would t work as there hauling needs or work truck requirements may not fit this bill. Only thing missing is body colored mirror caps to this package. Loved what dodge did with there midnight package. Lot of truck at a decent price when you get the rebates for these trucks.
Sport mode , 2.7 Turbo lag in a 5000 lb truck now that's funny
He doesn't know how turbo engines operate, so he drives this I4 like its N/a.
I would say a big reason the Elevation sells more in Canada is the fact that for 2019 you can’t get a crew cab elevation in the states. Just double cab. That’s changing for 2020 though.
Man I hope you are right, I love the Elevation package but would only buy one as a crew cab.
In the real world, turbo engines in trucks/SUVs almost never get better fuel economy than their larger N/A counterparts. You can browse through Fuelly.com data from actual owners and see the trends. It's noticeable in everything from Jeeps to full size trucks; the turbo engines drink more fuel to make that power.
How did the 5.3L V8 with 4WD get better fuel economy than the 4.3 V6 2WD?
Dynamic Fuel Management.
The 4.3l still has Active Fuel Management. To be honest after driving both AFM and DFM trucks. DFM is by far the better system.
Technology
Jaime Gutierrez - look closer. The MPG is listed as well. The 4.3 gets less fuel economy. It really has lived past its prime and should be put out to pasture
Isn't the 4.3 still with the 6spd auto?
richard miller - I think you are right. Some say that transmission is still better than the 8 speed which can be quite hard shifting for some buyers.
I have had two 4-cyl GM vehicles and the engines were junk. Last Equinox I traded with 80,000 miles on the clock, burnt 2 quarts of oil per 1,000 miles, GM said it was normal. The day I traded it in I got a recall notice stating it had defective piston rings. I will EVER buy another GM vehicle.
Yes, that 4-cyl is two small for that big behemoth. I have a 2.7L F-150, no turbo lag.
Do you know if the GMC is faking the exhaust note by using the audio system like the Ford Raptor does? When you bury your foot, it actually sounds pretty good for bring a little 4-banger.
Who wants a full size truck with a 4 banger ! Doubt with any kind of load it gets any better gas mileage the a v-8 that dose not have to work as hard
Patrick plumber under load yes! But like he said, it’s geared towards city folk who want a daily driver with the room and bed and to occasionally tow a (likely small) trailer. Plus, not everyone uses trucks for major hauling, whether towing or not, but to haul family with a lot of luggage or equipment in the bed instead of trying to cram it in an suv. For them it might make more sense.
I want one
@@AdonaiNate I made that comment 2 years ago at this point I would be happy with a hybrid truck I still think a 4 cylinder would end being a little disappointing in a full size truck but I’m not as opposed as I once was to the idea
The only advantage of the i4 is, it a few thousand cheaper than the v8. Because it won't sell well there might be some discounts in the near future
Yes thank you finish painting the truck dont leave the grille unfinished.
Lots of folks on here seem to think every truck will be used to tow a large trailer every week. What about those who like the room inside for their family, and the larger (compared to smaller trucks) bed to fill with all their luggage, sports equipment, or camping gear. You don’t need a big v8’s for that. The v6 fits better. But this gets even better mpg’s. Not much, but they add up. Pickups are the new family sedan, whether we like it or not, and families need better mpg’s, not always better towing. Seems like people aren’t always trying to see why the manufacturers do what they do. Don’t tow? Nice 4 banger. Tow some? V6 or 5.3? Tow a lot? 6.2! Or move up to heavy duty....
You can’t believe anything tfl says. They are flown in by GM on an expenses paid vacation.
Web Gem Right, because you actually believe General Motors is the ONLY manufacturer flying TFL in...😑
@@mybro727 no I dont believe any brand they review. Shit information
I dig it. I have a V8 Dakota. This engine puts out more power and torque than my V8, and fits my truck needs better.
I haul a kayak and some fishing gear. I towed one small trailer to move some stuff. All my stuff will fit in a long bed and that small trailer. I don't need a V8. I'd really like to take one of these with the 2.7 for a test drive. And despite fuel being cheap at the typing of this comment, it will go up. Anyone commenting saying that they don't care about fuel prices hasn't been hard enough to care. And when they do, they'll regret their short-sighted thinking when they said they didn't care about fuel economy.
How is it people think cylinder count determines longevity? I can agree the turbo eventually will wear out, but that might happen once in the total useful life of any halfton truck. It's not like the majority of V8 for life people will ever fix their own anyway. The arguments against are pretty thin. The obvious exception - V8 sounds like V8.
With GM it might fail sooner than you think...ask me I know!
Because you're personally sabotaging the parts! :cO
@@mikefoehr235 Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, does not matter the brand. Anyone can suffer from a mechanical problem.
It's the displacement, not the cylinder count that's the issue.
Displacement is determining reliability then?
Why can I not get the crew cab Elevation in the US? We can only get an extended cab. Look at the US webpage and build and price. I would love the crew cab, in the Elevation. It gives way more options than the Custom in the Silverado.
That small engine should be getting far better fuel mileage!! Why would you buy the 4 cyl when the fuel mileage is very similar to the 5.3 V8.
D U it is 10% better in the city which is real money for those who don’t do much highway driving.
@@jamesbeaman6337 no savings when you have to use premium fuel.
Elevation....putting perfume on a pig..or dating that gorgeous girl who has nothing going for her 😂
I put a Briggs and stratton v twin in my f150 and it gets amazing fuel mileage down hills, however it wont make it up them
I could not imagine purchasing a full size truck with the power profile of a typical Chevy Malibu rental car from Avis.
What Malibu rental car from Avis had 310 hp and 348 lb ft of torque?
There seem to be zero reviews on the reliability of the 2.7 turbo. It’s always about paint and fuel economy which isn’t any better in my opinion.
All I know is I'm not buying a full size pickup with a 4 cylinder engine. Blue is my favorite color.
I just looked at one of these yesterday not knowing it was a 4 banger. I'm all about my four cylinders especially owning a turbo K series. But I would never put it in a full-size trucks and expect it not to be overworked especially if you're towing. The Ecoboost v6 that's one thing but a turbo 4-cylinder..
Barely better gas mileage it's just not worth going that slow for half the engine life
Why not tune the 5.3 better?
Elevation Package huh... Yea, I would have to be at an oxygen starved elevation where I could no longer make rational decisions before I opted for an overly complex, under-sized, over-stressed engine with bare minimal payoff in fuel economy. Name makes sense 👍
If you are at high elevation a turbo motor makes a lot more sense.
Everyone is missing the point, for everyone out there with a 3.5 eco or 2.7 eco or 5.3, 6.2, 5.0, 5.7 v8 complaining about gas mileage well you asked for it and here it is. Forged 4 banger technology to back it. I think this is a great full size gas saver.
The mileage isn’t even good! It’s the same as the 3.5, which is MUCH more powerful, and likely, reliable.
@@alanthesalamander2327 😂🤣😂 No dude the 3.5 is horrible on gas. This new motor is ridiculously good on gas.
sammy duran they just showed the averages. It’s the same as Ecoboost 3.5 and worse than 2.7. Obviously it’s boost or eco with those engines, so if you’re in boost you’ll get shit mileage
@@alanthesalamander2327 I didn't watch the review all through on this channel but on the other channels this new motor out performed the 2 EBs no doubt. I'll watch this video all the way. through
sammy duran what???? In what world? These are Twin Turbo V6s, vs a smaller 4 cylinder single turbo. The numbers don’t back up your statement, sorry. This 4 banger doesn’t put up the performance of the ecoboosts, or the efficiency.
Guys I'm living in a worm area similar to Texas and I'm thinking about buying a 2000-2006 GMC Yukon Denali is it a good buy because where I live it's the best bang for the buck
It's a very good but but if it's a gasoline engine, stay away from the diesel engine unless it's been rebuild to Bullet Proof standards!
@@sgbradley thanks buddy
@@kemkakemkani2608 N.Problem
with regular in the v8 and premium in the turbo is it really cheaper to run the turbo?
The next 5 years,
I promise you, there will be US and others ((1.5 Liters Full-Size tracks)).
The V8 tracks will be a treasure and you will be lucky if you have one. 😊
Only a fool would buy a full size truck with a 4 cylinder in it
i wanted more torque for towing. 430 ft lbs vs 383 ft lbs in old high revving antiquated V8, so I went turbo 2.7. Just like Ford 2.7 V6 turbo, & Ram 3.0 I6 turbo replacing V8's.
GM's Engineers are missing missing the boat here...Better suited in the Colorado / Canyon
It’s a chevy. That means it will have 10 recalls in 3 weeks, headlights will go out after a few rain storms.
The 6.2L V8 is way better on fuel economy and more power.
the six two is terrible on fuel.
No mis understanding the video
Its in l/100km num nuts!
@@crazyhass84
Hey dumb ass, 1/100km to miles is 621 miles so yeah is does suck on fuel lol
Over here in Texas its all about that v8 every one puts a cam and exhaust on that vortec
These motors are jokes, the 4 cylinder only gets 2mpg better then the better built V8 so you'll get worst gas mileage overall in real world driving, due to having to get on it due to its weight and if you haul anything. This is only to save GM money, 4 cylinder motors are cheaper to manufacture. Save your money and get the V8, overall for durability and capabilities over the 4 banger is quite clear.
$51,000 for base 2.7L Elevation truck.GMC's "volume model".Sad knowing these prices are not considered expensive anymore.
He said that's about average, but if your paying the window sticker price, somthing is wrong, DISCOUNTS and rebates are the norm.
Engine should be in the Canyon/ Colorado twins. Elevation package does look good though.
I live in Texas and the Denali is the trim level I see the most by far.
Good looking trucks but not with a 4cyl. Turbo. Think the 6cyl. Turbo was ok but this is not my cup of tea. Then again I like a good old fashioned V8!
25% of Canadian sales 2% of the Us sales except the actual units sold are a lot closer because of the size of the US market
I don't understand GM's marketing. You can't get the 6.2 in lower trim packages. The best engine is the 5.3? With Ram & Ford you can get the best gas towing/engine packages in low trim packages. I bought a 2019 Ford 150 XLT Crew Cab RWD 302A Sport Package with the 3.5 Ecoboost and Max tow package, 20 in wheel $52 SRP (I paid 39K 👍). Still pricey though... These packages are hard to find but they are out there, and they can be ordered. Try to get one from Chevy or GMC... Nope!
The GMC Elevate Package looks pretty good though, I like it better than the Chevy version.
yeah but you still should've got 4wd bro. Never buy a truck in rwd
I have a GMC Canyon and the ride is so much nicer than a Jeep or even a Taco.
So the same mpg and towing as the v6 with more complexity?
The average buyer of these 1/2 ton pickups is using it almost entirely as a car, rather than a tower/hauler, so this 4 banger will fill the power needs of the average driver just fine. What would give me cause for concern is GM's reliability history with 4 cylinder engines. Generally speaking, GM has made crap 4 cylinder engines, so I'd not want to be a test monkey for this latest engine, especially at today's truck prices.
4 yrs later, all mid size gm trucks, sierra, & silverado still sporty 2.7 turbomax. Towing & payload the same. Buy V8, & crap out lifters.
Wow Honda just needs to join this game cause there 4 cylinder are the best you going to get