Is A Turbo 4-Cylinder a GOOD BUY in the 2019 chevy silverado? 2.7-liter four-cylinder
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- GM dropped a bomb on the Full-size truck market by dropping a 2.7 Liter turbocharged 4 cylinder engine in 2019 Silverado LT and RST trims. This is my review on the engine and I have to say. It's not what I expected. A 4 cylinder Silverado may be in your future.
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A video on a 4 cylinder full size and no mention of fuel mileage? That would be the main reason that someone would consider it.
Speaks volumes, no?
www.greencarreports.com/news/1121113_chevy-silverado-mpg-turbo-4-lower-than-v-8-in-gas-mileage-test
The only reason.
I'm all actuallity this engine needs to be in the Camaro and Calorado
Turbo sounds amazing and shifts smooth and it tows more than a v6 and is faster than a v8. I bought it today
I am getting about 26 mpg on my chevy truck It's is running great Its has about 10000 miles
When manufacturers first came out with V-6 engines, the experts stated they would never last. Time is always the best indicator of longevity.
V-8 engines are still better for trucks.
@@SD-pi9co you wouldn't possibly need to move things or tow uphill anymore it's 2022
Where is the massive reduction in the price of the. 4 cylinder (plus the free extended warranty)
@@craigholcombe1901 I just bought a new 2022 Silverado 1500 Custom 2.7 in January and I got to use the mother in-laws GM discount and paid $ 34k for it and the sticker was not quite $ 42k and it runs like a champ with plenty of power and I compare it with the 2014 F 150 I had that had the 3.5 Ecoboost 6 banger in it, even though the Ford had 50 more HP. Of course it is to early to tell how long the motors will last, but the 2.7 does not struggle at all, in fact it does not even work hard pushing the truck down the road without a load. I have had cars with undersized motors in the past, and this is not one of them and I think people automatically think more pistons means more power and that is not the case.
@@webman1956 He has they’ll continue the mantra. “There is no replacement for displacement!”
Owned it a year now, put 24k on it so far and no issues besides the 8spd transmission shifting hard every now and then and the exhaust sound. I average about 24mpg and I've towed 5k with it a few times and hauled over 1k regularly in the bed, no issues at all. that turbo sound is addicting too lol great engine/truck imo
Glad to hear!
Can we have another update?
@@tomonsterheard recently sold it for 4k more than what I paid for it. Put 36k on it and no issues besides the normal recalls and that transmission always left me with some doubt. Engine is great tho, would definitely buy it again if it had the new 10spd
@@rvgog247 thank you!
-did you ever tow with it?
-Did the truck feel like it was huffing and puffing when towing at higher speeds/going up an incline?
Im in between this and the V6.. i just don't want my engine super strained for the minor towing I do especially when i go up hill.
@@rvgog247 suuuure you did
NASCAR motors have 5-600ft lbs of torque. They are pushed away from the pit stalls because they are geared very tall for high speeds.
The Nascar motors aren't designed to have any torque at 1,500 rpms. So their torque isn't useable until they revv up a bit more.
@@Ritalie Yes but they have enough torque to come out of the pits quick enough if they had numerically higher gears and more then a 4-speed. They are pushed because of the gearing.
@@joshuahedrick No Ritalie is right that torque doesn't come on tell well after 1,500 rpms they High RPM motor most of the torque is 5000 rpms
@@SHSPVR im sure the camshaft, head, intake combination is geared around high rpm revs.... that being said, they will pull their ass out of the pit stall on their own no problem, but you may have to ride the clutch more than youd want... they push em to save the clutch
@Jake Heke Oh my did some push your button.
i would not buy a vehicle with a new engine until it has been around for 3 or 4 years. when it gets to 150,000 miles with no problems or recalls. To get a few more MPG is mot worth the risk.
I agree with that real usage
I’ll let ya know how it goes I bought one so far 2k miles no problems
Itsthepurp Bu how is the truck doing I am in the market for a new one
Bryan Adair perfect so far! Almost 2k miles love the acceleration it has and the turbo whistle is amazing. Think you won’t be disappointed.
Especially if that mpg is about the same as a V8
4 cylinder engine in a truck?. I will keep the v8 thanks
Richard Skipper actually they don’t. They have inline 6 cylinders.
Some of the small box trucks have 4 cylinders but 18 wheelers have 6 cylinders or even 8 if they’re older.
That's called free will. We all have it. Who cares what you or I chose?
@Richard Skipper Very well put.
@Richard Skipper You're dumb as a post. NO semi truck in the US has a 4 cylinder engine. Inline 6 is the norm, with pistons the size of coffee cans. And the diesels are engineered MUCH stronger than gas engines. Not even comparable, unless you can only count to 4 and not to 6 or 8.
@Richard Skipper what semi truck has a 4 cylinder engine and by "semi" I'm assuming your referring to a class 8 truck???
a 4 cylinder motor in a Chevy silverado is not a good buy,it is a goodbye.
I had the EXACT same thought 1 second before I read your comment. LoL!
What happens when you go to show your friends your new truck and then you get the dreaded question.... Hey bud pop the hood, let's see what ya got.. in this case nothing. I simply would b embarrassed to buy a full-sized 4 cylinder pickup, this is never going to last and I guarantee you will not see contractors buying these, not even people that use em as cars
@@jasoncentore1830 i don't know what chevy was thinking when the did this,come to think of it i don't think they were thinking...
@@hellshade2 why? Just why? Are they running out of options??? Dam.its time to stop.leave them alone.the 4.3 the4.8 the 5.3 & 6.0 vortecs are indistructable& very reliable.leave them in the trucks & dont change anything.bring back the s10 if they want to impress!!!
Nice I'm going for a Toyota 4RUNNER TRD!!
Chevy Dude come on!!!! Why would most people even think about a 4 cylinder............Fuel mileage. And not a word from you about what the MPG is vs a 5.3...................Seriously??
Agreed
From what I’ve seen early on, this 4 cylinder doesn’t provide that big of a gain in MPG, if any. And it’s going to be even worse when pulling a trailer.
I just bought a 2018 with a 5.3 and have a best of 23.1mpg over 50 miles and an average hovering around 17.5-18mpg. Granted I only have 325 miles on it so far and haven’t done any road trips yet.
Just seems weird to buy a Truck if you care THAT MUCH about fuel mileage.
Maybe Mike hasn't driven one enough to check the MPG.
V4 20 City / 23 Highway
V8 16 City / 23 Highway if you ask Google.
Finally! A Chevy pickup for people who need a Honda Accord.
Mister Deplorable yeah except the accord is reliable and this,ehh,we’ll see,but I wouldn’t bank on it
LoL! Brilliant!
@@Whateva67 - That's the truth! The Honda will be running long after that 4-banger Chevy truck has been crushed.
😂😂😂😂
Put a muffler on it...lol
Horsepower = velocity or top speed potential
Torque is the mathematical derivative of HP, it essentially is how quickly you can use that horsepower.
A lot of torque with low HP is not fast, it just pulls well.
You have it backwards...
A turbocharged 4 cylinder .....in a full size truck ? Thats a recipe for disaster . I think if you are concerned about mpg....then dont get a full size truck. Get a compact truck instead. This guy works for Chevrolet....of course he will talk good things about this truck.
Chevy doesn't make a compact truck anymore only "midsize" and up
@@mctigmctiggy1475 I agree. I'm not complaining about mpg. I have a 6.6 duramax diesel truck. So I get bad mpg. Lol. Mpg aren't a concerned for me. But for some people mpg are very important. Those are the ones who shouldn't get a full size truck.
What? Do you have any experience? 4 cylinders are great and make plenty of power, I'd take a 4 over a v6 any day of the week.
@@kfstreich4787 A 4 cylinder in a full size truck ? Really ? Lol. I would however take a 4 cylinder in a compact truck.
@@qualitylandscapeandhauling7710 have you driven the truck in question?
If this is reliable like chevy claims?? Then should put a 100,000 mile warranty .... to back it up!!! 😆
or maybe even up the annie too 150 xxx miles on it to really say they'll back it all the way up & stand by it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! humm i wonder here........
No kidding, factory warranty is a joke nowdays
Not a chance with a turbocharger lol
Same 30K mile warranty as everyone else... and Ford has shown that turbo/engine death is common by 20K miles with these small turbo engine platforms, and once you're past 30K miles, hahaha good luck out there. Stick with the LS v8, average lifespan for those is over 300K miles and climbing.
@@cmdr_talikarni Yep, I mean think about it, it's a small turbocharged 4 cylinder which already puts an engine under a lot more stress, then they slap it in a full size truck. This isnt gonna last.
Be prepared for higher maintenance. Proof. When I called to price an extended warranty for my V8 Titan truck, I called Car Chex and other warranty companies and after you identify your vehicle, options and mileage their first question before a quote is "does it have a turbo?" That should tell you something.
Why would you want a longer warranty on your titan??
I've got a 2.1 4 cylinder in my sprinter van, the little engines are surprisingly capable
Pro tip, I avoid salesman with gel in their hair like the plague.
It radiates untrustworthy
Gel*
@@popwarhomie thx
Same rules for undertakers?
@@ducknorris233 Good one.
I avoid salesman.
What is GM thinking. No way! Between the he turno. vehicle weight plus payload and the auto stop, that engine will be lucky to last 100k.
Robert Weber good. That means he will buy a new truck sooner 🙂 and who doesn’t like a new truck
@@hi.mestrada LOL
Not to mention you know most people will want to go 10k miles on conventional oil changes which will destroy those turbos
They don't care if these trucks last because once you're out of warranty you have to pay GM is all about the dollar no quality
@@kerekmiller1511 , I use AMSOIL full synethic and only push it to 7500. The way they ate making/pricing cats, they will be forcing us into leases and trading every 2-3 years as quality/reliability are going out the window.
This will be the last nail in general motors casket!!
another ignorant and stupid comment by people that don't know what they are talking about. that 4 cylinder has more horsepower and torque than the old 5.7 liter Vortec V8! that is a fact!
Bob Hirdes
Plenty of old vortex still running strong.
What's the history of any & all turbo 4's especially gm turbo 4's? Yeah splat"
Better than already being in a Ford Casket when they catch on fire!
Bob Hirdes,
Performance numbers are irrelevant. What is relevant is longevity.
Name onefour-cylinder in the history of GM that was a dependable motor? The Grand Am? What about the Vega? Or perhaps the Saturn Vue? Yeah…
Time will tell.
@@vh8765 the "iron Duke"
I build high HP engines for a living. In order to get more power you can add more cylinder, bigger cylinders or stuff more air in the same cylinder. The first two are good options for longevity...the last one is not. I don't care what Chevy says...adding a turbo is a terrible idea in a truck that's expected to actually "work". I can't wait to see some of these trucks once they hit the 120k mark or so. Whereas I've had 5.3's last 250+k I highly doubt you'll see the same thing from these little turbos. These are meant to last for the duration of the original owner who will buy then sell before 100k. The USED market will see the brunt of the issues for sure in this truck.
lollllllllllll ok. We have an entire fleet of work vans that depending on tools the driver carries vary from 8,000 to 9,000lbs + towing various trailers. never had an engine failure even at 300k miles. turbo 4 cylinder in it. :)
practically all diesel engines in the world are turbo'ed .... and they do some actual work with those vehicles and tractors and at 120k those diesel engine are just breaking in.
This is simply wrong. Planes, ships, trains all use turbos. The 5.3 and 6.2 both have had a lot of issues lately. I would argue the 2.7 is the more reliable engine, If you don’t tow heavy.
NASCAR cars have no torque??? No way, man!
They have lots and lots of torque.
Number Two his a sells men who says dumb shit to sell you a turd like this pos in the video
Are you serious, a 4 cylinder engine in a full size pick up? Not to mention a turbo that adds more possible issues!
Only Chevy. How many miles do you think this would last if sold to a construction company?
@@jasoncentore1830 😁🤣
4 cylinders are clapped out around 75,000 miles regardless of who built it. Turbo they are done at 50,000 along with cam-chain stretch, replacing the turbos (look at the other cars with the same engine). Sensors, inter-cooler, along with the non-stop firmware updates - NO THANKS - *DIESEL if you want TURBO*
Lol Not in many Toyotas and Hondas
1NZ-FE, 18, 20, 22R, RE
Idk 4cyl maybe but fords 2.7 is a solid engine... in fact I’d buy a 2.7 eco boost over a 5.0 right now due to the oil consumption issues... Chevy on the other hand idk but it’ll last over 50k but I wouldn’t own one without a warranty.
to aris torm... speaking of 4 cyl., diesel's... yea i would buy & drive it til the body rusted clear off of it..... cus we all know if diesel's always get maintained i know for a fact an uncle of mine stil has it cus the body rusted clear off of it & ford stil tryes to buy it..... any who he ownes a 86 escort wagon 4 cyl,. diesel & 5 spd no a/c but plain jane every thing else......... last i saw it the clock had a bit over 800,xxx real miles on it orig., motor & tranny.... cus he wasvery great at maintain it & all the stuff on the farm... after 2 yrs,. my uncle put on 15 in,. ranger rim's & tires on the 'ol wagon it was the best for it in the long run of it......motor still run's but the tranny case came apart so he parked it & covered it & it's been sitting since ...................the pinto wagon he had & still has that clock had just over 250, xxx miles on it til the body rusted off it as well.............
True. They start burning oil at that miliage and lose their power especially if towing. They feel great when new though
@@jamieround2072 *Thank the Demo-Communist for the EPA mandates where it COST consumers MORE money and they file lawsuits against manufacturers basically destroying the DIESEL engine in small trucks/cars/1/2 tons. Now they destroy the GAS engine with non-stop regulations WHO pays for it the CONSUMERS. Meanwhile they push the CLIMATE SCAM LIES 24/7 saying breathing and CO2 is going to end the planet (VOTE FOR DEMO_COMMUNIST and give the GOV all your money as they will save you.....*
NO! If you want a 4 cylinder truck get the Colorado or the new Ranger
Back seat of the Colorado is not for road trips with adult sized children but the 4 cylinder engine would probably increase sales of the Colorado a lot because the 3.6 in it is as thirsty as a 5.3 with less truck.
The 4-cylinder turbo engine would be perfect for the Colorado and the Canyon. Keep the 4:10 rear though.
The new Ford Ranger are junk! It came over from Australia with 60,000 recalls when it came into US.
Nice gatekeeping bro
Do you mean the 11 year old "New" Ranger, with the 11 year old platform?
I'm honestly impressed at this little engine. I do worry about longevity and of you tow or haul often, I'd get the v8.
If you tow or haul often then get a 3/4 ton.
🎯 exactly.. i have a 2000 excursion V10 towed 2x a light trailer… it was a people mover.. And i drive like a grandma.. i am never racing stoplight to stoplight or uphill.. As long as the engine is reliable.. its perfect for people like me.. Burning rubber and flooring it/abusing my vehicle does nothing for me
the only good 2.7 liter engine is the bullet proof one that Toyota has had for many years. 400,000 plus miles pretty common.
Toyota doesn't have it trying to pretend to be a V8 nor do they put it in a heavy vehicle.
@@Membrane556 my T100 midsize size pickup has one and pulls a loaded 16 ft trailer now and then.
Except they need a valve job around 180,000 miles.
4 cylinder with turbo in a full size truck.... sounds like a 100,000 mile motor.... don't tow anyrhing. I'd go with a non-turbo v8.
Yeah the turbo is doing all the work. Without it it wouldn't have any power. Towing will cook that engine.
If it's the same prices out the door. And mpgs the same. Wtfis the point?
MPGs are not the same in real world driving
@@corpsiecorpsie_the_original GM lies on truck MPG ratings as they can by law... If you're buying a truck off listed MPG you're a fool. Get the biggest, most powerful engine you can afford.
Practically the same mpg as the 6.2L and will probably only last 1/3 of the time.
Mpg's maybe the similar but both don't put out the same emission levels. The main reason this engine is a big deal is because the new 3L diesel shares tech. That allowed GM to keep cost the similar 6.2L when both are optioned the same.
Let's not forget 6.2L must use prem vs 87 on 2.7L.
@@jeffwill4923 Premium fuel is only recommended for the 6.2 for max power, it's far from required. Most people run regular.
Nodak81 every 6.2 I know runs on 87 and like a bat out of hell. The 4 cylinders aren’t gonna last as long as any of the other LS motors in general. Not when you put them under stress for periods of time. Most people I know don’t buy a V8 for gas mileage anyway.
Are Chevy's 6.2 gas or Diesel? My buddy just sold his Ford 6.8 which was a gas... but I'm aware that 6.3, 6.4. And 6.6 are all diesel. It's fucking confusing. Now ford is introducing their 7.3 in a gas variant which will be awesome for the few that get their hands on them
Boosted 4 banger on 87?
Only if you wanna blow it up
A midsized truck engine on a full size pick up and with an electronic water pump. Whats next , front wheel drive. This truck is a joke in the pick truck world.
Electric water pumps are the future bro. Do you like carburetors too? Also, I'll take All Wheel Drive over that clunky front 4x4 transaxle any day.
Chevy guy here too, I think ill just go with the 4.3 rather than the 2.7. A lot cheaper anyways and not only that, but i still see 4.3's from the 90's still running around just fine.
Onsat Gaming the vortec 4.3 and ecotec 4.3 are completely different
@@liammaupin9492 Dang and they acted like it wasnt diffrent.
My 4.3 L vetch got 650,000 miles and was still running. Would crank in 30 degree weather with no problem. 95 GMC. But I had a beefy 350 I wanted to put in it. So never found out how many miles I could get out of it.
90,000 miles and it’s headed to the junkyard... That’s the problem with trying to squeeze so much power out of 4 & 6 cylinder engines.
Who ever buys one of these will see power train issues before 70k miles. No bueno why put all that weight on w a lil 4 banger turbski?
The pos will still cost 50k
what about the break in period Chevy Dude. I would've been pissed if you drove my new truck like that. Pretty much redlined the damn thing. WTF!!!
Its the Chevy Cruzearado. It's neat truck and it has plenty of power and I bet it will tow fine too. If you force enough air and fuel in anything you will get more power. The problem is there is a trade off in future repairs. My problem is I keep my trucks forever and use them to do real work. I don't want to have to deal with dead turbos, plastic intake manifolds, and oil blowing out of every seal because of a screwed up EGR design. I want a more traditional overhead valve, non-turbo engine V6 or V8. These may turn out to be great reliable trucks without a lot of problems, but I don't think so. I do have to give Chevy credit for trying something new though. Time will tell. Lets see how much people love them 5 years from now.
Scotty says that you're NUTS to buy a big truck with a small engine. I agree
This truck will be a pain in the ass for these future owners
What I like about the 2.7 turbo is that it is very light. It's like 200kg less under the hood than the V8. You definitely feel it
My buddy got one, and now wishes he would’ve gotten the 6.2 like mine.
Why you lying? It ain't your truck. It's the bank's truck.
In a full sized truck I would feel much better OWNING with an understressed V8 vs. an overstressed UNDERSIZED 4 cylinder. Also gm's history and future paints this as a very shaky purchase.
Yes and there isn't going to be any gas savings if you are running it at full boost, which is 22psi, making it use more fuel than a 6.0L V8. The only savings would be on the highway and I bet its the same as a 5.3L in 4cyl DOD mode, it actually may even be worse.
Lot of companies are very focused on leasing these days.
Great torque at 1500, what happens on a hill with a load at highway speeds?? I hope the 4 ways work well
Stress is an arbitrary term. It depends on how robust the block, rods and crankshaft is made. There are engines that live virtually forever under high boost......diesels
What if I told you these 4 bangers are $16,500 off sticker. Would you consider one at that price point?
Chevy dude. Another thing for you to understand. The 5.3 tq curve is very flat. Sure max tq is at 4 to 5k rpm but it starts well over 200 at 2k rpm and rises fast. Tq curves is just as important especially in trucks.
the Torque curve on the 4 cylinder turbo is even FLATTER! at a much lower RPM!
@@bobhirdes6725 I wasn't arguing that. I agree. I am stating that the 5.3 tq curve starts early and maintains. For a naturally aspirated engine this is really good
Funny that people say “it won’t last” since they’re were saying the same thing about the 4.3L a long time ago. Also, the 4.3L made something like 200hp 20 years ago, and is still in service today.
This truck will do great and it’s definitely not underpowered for everyday driving.
9:15 people like you are the ones who get into accidents.
"hurr durr i can drive distracted, i'm a pro, hurr durr"
Yeah fuck this guy.
OMG right as soon as he said that..I about choked..what a DOUCHE
@UC6wcJ6OaTOhTxDE6D4FDpKQ Lol, this dude's hilarious. And 'professional' what exactly? Let's see him explain that to the cop that yanks him over for doing this, lol. Oh, and look up his video where he CRASHES a brand new truck into a parking lot light pole, BECAUSE he was filming. Yep, 'professional' all right...
@@231mac which video is that?
@@sekopiski This one: ruclips.net/video/F1SRcr0BQbs/видео.html
Thanks for the info on the turbo four cylinder, but have to stay with my V8 regular cab Silverado. Have had nothing but regular cabs V8 since 1980.
I cared, buddy. I cared...
Glad to hear somebody else likes regular cabs. Thanks for your comment.
Miss my reg cab... car seat and 2 dogs forced me into a crew cab
That fact that you took the time to comment shows you care... it’s okay I know you care brah.
Why would anyone want a 4 cylinder in a truck? 🤦♂️
Anything less than a V8 in a full-size truck is uncivilized.....
Lol scared a 4cylinder will make your winkey feel small?
for every 14.7 pounds of boost you are basically doubling the engine output so it is like getting a v8 with half the cylinders or weight.
i still would not put one in a full size truck though.
@@RickJamesGhostGuns i don't know, the old 4.3 chevy half tons were pretty good.
@@paulk5311
The 4.3 vortec was a good engine but it was better suited for the S10
Checked my local dealer, the V8 is about the same price as the 4 cylinder and the same mileage. Is that a freaking typo?!?
morgan williams That because when people drive the 4 cylinder. They drive it hard trying to see how fast it is. Then they complain about how much fuel it burn. It take fuel to make 348 lbs.-ft @ 1500 rpm.
I bought a 2016 F165. F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost engine. It only got 17.5 mpg until I learn not to step on the peddle so hard. I now get 19 mpg in the city. It always gotten 24.5 on the highway.
morgan williams Its the same story with the Ford ecoboost v6’s. You need a certain amount of fuel to get a given amount of power, wether you do it with turbos or displacement. My guess is that the chevy turbo 4 exists to give an option for someone comparison shopping against the ford.
Right , but people will be ignorant and buy it anyways. Not my problem.
4 cyl too small for that size/weight truck, even with the turbo. Ford is seeing thousands per week with turbo/engine failure. Class action lawsuit is just starting to gain momentum against Ford for selling the turbo trucks knowing they are too small and weak to be viable long term.
@@tacooffroadforlife6533 right, I got a 4Runner with a V6 and fel like i could use the power of a V8 sometimes
My niece’ s husband just bought one and he loves it.
So I'm a Ford guy and just got pretty much this truck for my work truck given to me. It's the 2017 4.3 v6 that my Chevy friends told me only comes in a regular cab long bed 10 years ago. Well that just goes to show you what Chevy people know. Anyways. This 4.3 has no power till you really get into the gas. And they front load the peddle so even with a light foot it will get up in the 5000 RPM range. It drops down to V4 mode but that is only going downhill and with out touching the gas. So with my best attempts to get the best MPG I have gotten 20mpg. My take on this. The 4cly turbo would be great for the guy that only need to carry people and get ok gas milage. The other side to that is. Are company 2016 f150 3.5 4x4 crew cab with 20in rims and 35s gets 25mpg is the fastest truck in our fleet of 9 other Chevys and is the only truck we have kept over 60xxx miles. So I'll stick with being a Ford guy.
Only time will tell , American auto makers never seem to do the proper long term extreme condition testing before foisting their product on the people .
A lot of these companies are in it for the short run. They don't seem to care very much about the Integrity of their product other than avoiding recalls and complaints. I'm not saying they don't care at all about their products but they could definitely do more to make them last longer. Ultimately if their products last longer they'll probably make less money off of sales.
You swap the engine every oil service.
Hhmm
google "Chevy Cruze engine problems" If these little 4 cyl turbos are blowing up in compact cars (before the factory warranty expires) what do you think will happen in a pick up truck?
its because of a poor manifold set up causing it to crack at the waste gate seal. not gm fault. it is honeywell/garret problem because it is there turbo system
Oh please. GM built zillions of ecotec 4 cylinder motors. In general. A bulletproof motor.
Pretty sure this is a new engine design completely. I am super curious to start seeing the service bulletins that appear for these engines tho and any problems they encounter over mileage and being used like a truck.
I don't know about the 1.4l turbo but the Ecotecs don't die. I've got a 2007 2.4L that's really in too heavy and large vehicle for the amount of torque that it produces, and even under that added load of a 3600 pound Saturn Aura mid size sedan, the engine sounds and runs like new after twelve years and 160K plus miles. Whoever said GM can't make 4 cylinders has lost his or her mind. I'm more of a Ford guy, but my 2001 Focus with a 2.0L was wearing out at 100K when thankfully someone hit it while parked and totaled it.
@@RBGarick well it was designed specifically for this truck before any other application; not like Ranger's 2.3L, but is like Ford's 2.7 and 3.5L Ecoboosts which have been faring well except for a carbon build up issue on the 1st generation 3.5L. I think it should make a good base engine replacement unless there was something they missed. Quite a bit of complexity though, but so too are the other new engines with the DFM treatment and all.
what he forgot to mention is before it reaches its first oil change it will be in the shop to repair the wiring harness after it rubs on the chassie and shorts out the computer system. True story form my buddy who is an ASE certified for 15 years at a chevy dealership. the guy bought the truck drove it home and it never started again.
Not for me, I just love that V8 sound when you add a super 10 flow master
If you look at the rest of the tachometer's layout, it's clear that the hash marks start at 500 rpm...not zero. So it's at a normal 700-750 rpm at idle.
typical sales man. beating on a new customers brand new engine. racing the engine to 4k rpm...shaking my head.
Chevy Dude lol not really.... if you read the manual, 500 miles dont rev engine past 3k , no hard breaking.... also, never say never..... you may be confident videoing while driving, but one look down and .1 sec of passed time, could be the result of a crash to occur..... do what you want, but dont drive distracted...........
@@Aaron-hi7if I've always been told to drive it like you're going to drive it after it breaks in Wallace breaking in that way if anything comes apart it comes apart while the warranty still good and you know what it's about
Why is the oil pressure so low at idle, and when ho floors it, it barely moves up. You don’t supposed to be hammering on it until after 500 miles. This truck sounds like a Chevy cobalt getting on it. Very embarrassing. Put some after market exhaust and you have a Silverado that sounds like a Honda!
No thank you.
MPG, and Warranty! 30,000 isn't going to get it.
It will when most of them will be 3 year ultra low mileage leases hence the 30k warranty and people will love a truck for $189/month
I had to turn in a 2017 GMC lease with the 5.3 V8. There were no V8s on the lot so I leased a 2021 GMC with the 4.7. I was very leery about the 4 cyl. Man, I love it. On a trip I got 29.9 MPG, around town about 18. I haul a 12ft trailer with my Zero turn 60" mower to cut the grass at my rental properties. Yeah, I can tell its back there compared to the V8s I've always had but it's still no slouch.
What about longevity that truck will not last as long as a V8 Burnout turbo rings excessive PSI no thanks
Exactly what people said about the ecoboost…
I think it is a great way to have pick-up truck.If the true be told 85 % of pick-up truck are just to be use as a big car(open trunk SUV). I'm not saying it to be mean ( just look at the truck bed floor clean and looking good as new) Way to go chevy.
Your being generous. I'd say 90 percent use them as large car that sits higher b
Technology has come a long way and smaller displacemen motors are now packing a pretty good punch. By the way, the 2.7 can do 0 to 60 in 6.4 seconds.
The technology has been around for a while. Rally cars have 600hp turbo 4 cylinders, and go from 0-60 1.9 seconds. But they do not last long at all, because of the stress that has to be put onto the smaller engines. Like, the rally cars engines have to be rebuilt after every race.
@Bronco Burgess your average driver doesn't kill the engine as rally car drivers do. If they do, they also deserve to suffer the consequences of a destroyed engine. Abuse anything and it won't stand.
@@elche1976 The turbo 4-cylinder Volkswagen in our family has had its share of issues and has burned a lot of oil for years, turns the oil black quickly, etc. The difference in the oil analysis reports between that and my normally aspirated Mazda were pretty dramatic. There is absolutely a price to be paid for boost.
My cousin has a 4 cylinder Silverado and she's had it for over a year. She travels from San Antonio Texas all the way to selaya guanajato mexico which is about an 18 hour drive. She has done this 8 times already in one year, never ever had any issues, and the truck was always full of stuff. I know cuz Ive been those 8 times lol
A 4 cylinder engine would struggle with the weight of the truck , I'm a power guy .
Test drive one might surprise you
I tried one out , and no shit it is probably a little quicker than the 5.3. Pretty impressive. Would I buy one no way. I went with the 5.3. Good lease option for someone that just wants truck for dump runs or home depot runs
Engine won't last long
1.blown head gasket
2.piston rings
3.turbo seals
At less than 50k miles
Eigh? I have 204,000 on the 2.1 4 cylinder in my full size van, no issues.
@@user-ih8zh8up9u I'm sure the engineers at gm can figure out how much oil pressure is necessary to keep the engine well oiled. But i suppose you know more than them,right?
David Nanze yes it is always fun seeing people chip their vehicle to get it to “run right.” Fuel mixture and so on, uh yeah as if the factory team didn’t do it correctly?
@@user-ih8zh8up9u it was at 250 rpm the hell is wrong with you? 30 psi is plenty
And how is it you know? Quit acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about.
That engine would be good in the Colorado
would also be a good swap for a datsun 280 z
Never in a million years would I buy a 4 cylinder TRUCK.
The only way I'd got for a it is if it were an opposed piston engine...bigger more efficient pistons no valve train, simple design (dual cranks geared to a single flywheel). Heavier duty than a normal turbo gas engine. This engine comparatively has an extremely complex valve train, complex design and puts more stress on a single crank as well as having an excessively complex turbo system.
Dont buy an i4 in a car either. Just not enough power.
I have a 95 hard body bought it new it has a built KA- 24 under the hood that will make you change your mind about a 4- banger I have put a lot of the big three to shame with it so I wouldn't take shit a 4- banger with my small truck the power to weight ratio I will give any stock full size truck one hell of a race !!! Lol
Yeah, you definitely need a hd v8 to haul paint and ladders.
Correction full size pick truck, the Tacoma is a v4
This was made for one reason only: To placate the EPA for the least possible cost.
The thing with these small turbocharged engines is they get good fuel economy, if you keep your foot out of it. If you drive like the salesman in this video, expect about 15 mi/gal average.
I'd also imagine this engine was made for countries with displacement taxes. You are basically getting the same gas mileage between the 5.3l EcoTec V8 and this 2.7l I4 turbo, but the 2.7l is a smaller engine. Using Japan's displacement tax, you'll pay 51,000 yen per year ($465 USD) on the 2.7l turbo and 88000 yen ($803 USD) on the 5.3l. Now I'm sure the Japanese isn't rushing out to buy the 2.7l turbo Silverado, due to their tiny roads, but I just used their displacement tax as an example.
Imagine a full size "Silverado" pulling a trailer screaming like a Honda Civic 1.8 turbo
hahah thats great.i could never own a full size truck with a 4 cylinder or even really a 6 cylinder.
With aftermarket fart pipes.
nice , some guy abusing your new truck b4 its broke in .
A New 4 cylinder turbo on a full size truck? Recipe for disaster. The future Lemon 🍋 for GM.
Fun fact that’s every dealership ever. Yes even the high end ones.
As an former heavy line mechanic, with engines being my forte, I can tell you without reservation, when compared to the v6 lfx engine with concerns to fuel milage and torque they are comparable other than the fact that turbo or no you will burn more fuel under load with the turbo 4 than with the v6 lfx engine.
When I buy a brand new car/truck, it's because I want to know how every mile is spent....especially during the "break-in" period. If I knew someone was turning 5K RPMs in a truck I ordered before I got it, I'd be pissed the "F" off.
But then.....Chevy lost my dollar vote last year when they shutdown US plants and invested overseas.
I just recently bought a Honda Accord Sport (Dec. 2018) built in Marysville, OH, and a Honda Ridgeline Black Edition (Apr 2019) built in Alabama.
Saw your post/ so what made you buy a Ridgeline? Has honda done well on their auto transmissions...in the late 90s to recent their v6 transmissions have been problematic.....even the accord 05 etc 4 cylinders..also did they switch to timing chains or do they still have belts for the v6?
@@benl4707 creep
I guess you dont know how they drive them when the 3rd party caravans them to the shipping lot
In the end any profit money goes to Japan period
@@robertrichardson9953
Nope
Toyota is one of the most widely held stocks in US mutual funds. Much of the profit stays here. Plus they are made here with US dealers and mechanics.
Camry and Accord use more US made parts than a Ford Mustang.
Ford paid no taxes for decades by the way.....
Ford has a 2.7 6 cylinder and they run great. Never thought I would say that so ill have to wait and see how this does
Toyota has 4-cylinder N/A 2.7L trucks still on the roads for over 20 years, some with over 300K on the odometer. I highly doubt these trucks will last that long.
They will not last long
I will buy another truck with the 6.2 I have a 2011 SILVERADO LT 4x4 with the 6.2 that is one awesome engine
I have one in my Denali and I love it, however I don't like the fuel economy 😂.
*electric water pump - like an electric fan clutch = NIGHTMARE and mega bucks to replace then getting to the BACK of the engine (what a mess) 5.3 V8 all the way!!!! - Start/Stop with a Turbo 4 cylinder - ANOTHER EPIC FAIL!!!*
I gotta disagree.. 5.7 all the way
some body plzz in simple what & why the auto-start / stop is in most rides now...... we saw chevy dude hit a button & he said it stops it...... whats that mean ... cancel's it all or what...... plzz explain................
@@jamieround2072 it's a fuel consumption regulation left over from barack obummer
phoenix696902 psn I’m glad under trump RVs can empty their septic tanks right on the highway. Fuck the environment it’s a smash and grab world!
@@jamieround2072 *PLAN on that going south along with the starter, electrical drain, engine wear just plain STUPID. It WEARS the engine out burning MORE FUEL/OIL from unnecessary START/STOP. Meanwhile EPA and environmentalist are waving pom-poms and it uses MORE resources.*
The gas mileage isn’t that great on the 4 cylinder truck
Sorry we don't know that yet. Wait a year or two then we'll know. These engines haven't even been broke-in yet.
Jim Parker my 2019 Silverado gas mileage isn’t good enough to justify it versus the 5.3 so I’m trading up
@@chaviriananthony Why not go all the way---get the 6.2 if you're gonna pull that trigger!
@@jimparker7778 my 6.2 ( diesel ) is 20 mpg. In a 3/4 ton military m1009/k5
it gets WORSE fuel economy than the V8, what does that tell you! I will never buy one.
I live in China and have a 2018 Land Rover with the identical engine package I’ve had for over a year. It’s totally amazing! I was very skeptical when I first got it but now a total believer. I will buy this truck when I return to the states. Everyone should give it a test drive to see for themselves. Trust me, you’re gonna be shocked as I was........it’s a different world these days! It’s called progress.......
It's a very smart engine if you think about. You don't need cylinder deactivation and things making it brittle. It's just oversized pistons and cams doing some few big bangs. Very clever concept that I didn't expected the americans to bring first.
Hey, if that's all you need in a 1/2 ton that's fine. I'd like to see that 2.7 in the Colorado/ Canyon tho.
I'd only want a Colorado or the Canyon with the Baby Duramax!!!
Exactly
@@SteveHolsten I own a '16 Canyon SLT Duramax and love it. I'm not suggesting replacing the 2.8L Duramax w/ the 2.7 Turbo but replacing the 3.6L gasser w/ the 2.7T. The 2.7 has 310 hp and 348 lb ft torque w/ peak torque at 1500-4000 rpm vs the 3.6 w/ 308 hp and 275 lb ft torque at 4000 rpm. And for S&G add the 10 speed auto to the gasser.
GM just announced that they will be making the 6.2L available in the LT and RST trims, as well as the Trail Boss starting next year. I'm really excited to hear that news, since I always believed that you shouldn't have to pay through the nose for an LTZ or High Country if you want the 6.2 in a Silverado. The LT 6.2 will start at just over $43k, according to the article I read. 🙂
Something that people forget when they fall in love with 6.2L is type of gas. That monster is thirsty 91 octane. Unless you really need heavy tow, it's not worth it for daily commute.
@@amprg The 6.2 isn't for towing otherwise it would be offered like the 6.0 in the 2500 and 3500 models.
@@diacom496 then what is the purpose of having that, with higher torque and hp? Just higher acceleration and speed in a truck? I can't justify it.
@@amprg I'm not saying you can't tow with the 6.2, just that it wasn't put into 1500 series as a towing motor, otherwise it would also have been offered into the higher series trucks. The design of the 6.2 does not promote it as a long term tow motor, like the 6.0 does. This is why GM did not push it as such and put it in the 2500 or 3500.
I had a 4 cylinder diesel pickup truck. It was a tiny Toyota half ton
I had a 1980 with the 1L diesel in it. Stock it didn't have the power to get out of its own way. Opened up the intake. Shortened and opened up the exhaust. Had to replace the head gasket so I opened up the ports a bit and did what I could to straighten them out. Installed an electric fan. Had a 4 to 1 header made for it. Boosted pressure to the fuel rail. Made it into a pretty decent pickup.
I drove it into the ground and miss it. Used it for deliveries of elevator parts and equipment for years. There was one time I picked up some scaffolding from a job site to return it. They told me it was 2000 lbs. After I returned it I found out it was actually 2700 lbs, the truck weighed 2800 lbs. Damn good pickup.
What I gathered from this video.
1. "The turbo is different"
2. "It idles crazy low"
3. The car salesman likes to beat up on sold cars before the owner gets it.
4. "It can get out of the way of traffic"
5. It has been through rigorous testing by GM and "passed all the same standards"
6. "It can tow 7,000lbs"
7. Gas mileage is not worth mentioning
I'd be livid if the salesman took my special order truck for a joyride with a bunch of lead-footed launches before I took possession.
That's actually pretty impressive especially for a 4 cylinder.. great for mileage if u dont tow constantly
AMERCIANS don't care about gas milage with fee fee 4's with self destruction GM design.
Simply put different grades or levels of the Corvette V8 in everything.
From cars, suvs, and trucks.
People loves them for power and reliability. It could save plenty of manufacturing complexity and cost. It can make American great again.
But, but, but GM tries to immitates others and does the worst job of copying.
Very well said. You are correct. The gasoline V8 Corvette engine is 100% reliable and has tons of power. There is no need for any other engines including the inline 5, Duramax or the 2.7L turbo 4 cylinder. Use what works and don't waste time making prototypes.
The LS V8 Chevy Corvette engine gets close to 30 mpg. It has very little friction because of it's 2 valve per cylinder and simple design with roller lifters etc. The ECU tune and the compression ratio and the transmission make all the difference, a V8 can get nearly as good of gas mileage if you set it up right and use a super high overdrive.
I wouldn’t go near a vehicle that heavy and big with a 4 cyl engine.
*electric water pump - reminds me of the electric FAN clutch maintenance nightmare*
It’s like those dudes on RUclips who swap 212 predator engines in cars 😂
@@Hostility1812 ... ok not to sound 2 odd but what does these 212 predator motors for orig,. & what good or bad do they do in the place where the old motor ( what ever it was ) does in all honesty.......
why are you going to do a test drive on a sold vehicle ?250 miles on a new truck delivery?
He has to get people to buy up the inventory some how! LOL They probably have slow sales on these trucks and he's trying to get rid of them by hyping it up even if it costs one future truck repair possibly.
I know this is old as fuck bro but the 250 miles is the fuel range lol if u look under it had like 15 miles on it
The thing is people, small factory equipped turbocharged engines are nothing new. Euro cars have done this since the 80s. I've owned a few.... while fun to drive and very powerful. Long term reliability has never been proven. Ford has tried it, now GM. C-mon guys, while AWESOME power numbers are actually quite easy to engineer into an engine, longevity is not. Gasoline turbocharged engines cook oil and dont get great mileage when always in boost. It's well documented and proven. Those same Euro engines last 300,000 miles in N/A forms, so dont go there.
This is all mandated by EPA/Gov't/CARB regs. That's why we are now seeing a decline in reliability and high oil consumption etc. The best years were about 1985-2005 in automotive engineering.
Great review man. But don't be buying that over-priced water in bottles, please. Really, just get yourself a nice quality water bottle and your life will be much better.
Dude I’ve always been all about the v8s but these new engines in these new trucks are impressive. And not just with Chevy but ford and dodge are also making great fuel efficient engines with great power. Great review!
Those Ecoboost Fords are scary with all the issues a lot of them have!
Oil pressure seems kinda low!!
i too saw that in the video & wondered if u all did as well.......... any 1 know low oil pressure mean's not long life 4 the turbo or the engine 4 that matter........
yeah, even after he accelerated the oil pressure went up slightly. Maybe have to compare with other 2.7 turbo videos. Not hating on the engine just curious about it’s normal operation.
Most 4cyl loose pwr when you turn on A/C also!
If your buddies made fun of you because you bought a six cylinder just wait till you buy this ......lol
My buddy got this truck, and I drove it the other day, and I like it, we took it to big bear and hit a trail with ease, I drive a 18 Malibu it also has the turbo, this my be my next purchase.
I'll keep driving my '92 Silverado thanks
I wish I had a 92 I want one so bad!
I'm 16 and would love for that to be my first truck!
Bow Tie guy for life but, count me out on that one!
Ford GUY for life, and I like the EcoBoost but if Ford did this I would be disappointed. The Chevy 5.3 is the best choice, always.
@throwing sparks same right here
Best selling point:
It keeps up with traffic
😂😂😂😂😂
Actually slightly quicker to 60 than the 5.3 V8 😛😛😛😛😛
Lol right
Turbos will last if you treat them right. Always use full synthetic oils and change it regularly. Before turning off the engine, let it idle for 1 to 2 minutes so the turbo can properly cool down. When starting the engine, let the oil reach 180 degrees Fahrenheit before pushing the engine and turbo during hard accelerations. It also helps the life of the turbo to not lug the engine in overdrive.
I agree that you have to let em warm up and cool down. Synthetic oils do not make a turbo perform better or last longer, it's clean oil and air, and warm up cool down procedures.
I LOVE TO HEAR THE TURBO thats why i got it!
Great a full size pickup that hauls as much as the mid-size ranger...
And gets 13 mi/gal (highway) when towing!
Most people with trucks don’t even tow or haul that much
This truck can’t even haul my fishing buddies wife!
Yea but you’re not hauling if you’re buying this truck....
You were reading the rpm gauge wrong Mr. Professional. It was idling at 6-700.
Each hash mark was 100rpm where do you get 6-700 from line 2
@@mcf3778 Double check that, u wrong brotha.
@@johnwaynebrooks 8:19 yup about 300 rpm take another look
@@mcf3778 Well would look at that, the first line is 500rpm. Thanks for proving my point homie!
@@johnwaynebrooks you don't understood math do you... If the tach says X1000 and there is a 1 that is 1000rpm now if there is 9 hash marks each mark is 100 so if the needle is on mark 3 that makes 3 divided by 1000 for 300 rpm... Thank you for either proving you are stupid or have a thick skull and cant admit you are wrong... Tachs have been this way for almost 100 years so move on moron
Lotta moving parts to break and that turbo will get way too hot under load. No. Just NO.
hmm but it seems like the ecoboost turbos do not "overheat" under load
@@GlennyMac17 u r a dum azz
@@GlennyMac17 no, but some blow up, or explode
@@GlennyMac17 cause it's Ford.
My 5.3l gets warm easily. I think insufficient rad cooling on truck.
one of the thing other companies dont understand.... how quiet a chevy is. drove my moms toyota... they were yelling the entire trip to hear each other. windows up and no radio. love chevy. amazing how innovative american cars are becoming....... get rid of the foreign junk on our streets.
William Callison i buy and like american myself but it is just wrong to say all imports are junk toyotas and hondas last almost forever i i hardly call that junk