I tried building a 2 amp rig on a MASSIVE pedal board....and failed
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That's not a pedal board, that's a wing from a small aircraft
Ngl small aircraft wing parts would make a durable and expandable pedalboard
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love my pedal board rig, power stage 170, tuner,amptweaker tight metal,airis effects savage drive 5, isp, and voila
That wizard cab is sweet-cool vid
Awesome that you went ahead and posted it as is. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time!!! LOVE YOU BROTHER!!
The most non metal suggestion. instead of the power amps, go into a Roland JC 40. Stereo inputs and stereo fx loops and stereo cab. You can put the dirt pedals in front and the Modulation/delay/reverb in the loop. I feel the BEOD works better into the front of an amp instead of direct to power amp. No experience with the SLO yet but it's on my radar.
Otherwise, I like the ISP Stealth a lot as far as power amps goes and think they are quite overlooked in these scenarios.
Others already touched on the noise issue and I'll just add to that by saying the Radial Twin City has been my go to in those scenarios with great success.
It was fun to see how you tackled this and I have the older 1530 pedalboard and love it.
A mimiq doubler and stereo delay and reverb pedals are a must
The noise comes from your Digitech drop pedal. This has to be no.1 in your effects line. Also, you need the original Digitech power supply for the pedal, otherwise it won't be quiet.
I would suggest looking into a Gigrig wetter box, it's basically a pedal sized parallel mixer that will allow you to run/split into stereo, W/D or even W/D/W if you wanted. An alternative might be the Red Sea Jet splitter, it's basically the same thing as the Gigrig. From there I would either split into stereo into two Powerstages, or Harley Benton makes a nifty little 50w stereo pedalboard poweramp for like 100 bucks, and feed that into the cabinets. I would route both preamp pedals first in the chain and put whatever time/reverb/modulation effects after those and if you have one that splits into stereo you could ditch the wet box and use that as your splitter into the power amp/amps. Whatever you put in-between the drive pedals would pretty much be your 'effects loop'.
You never know until you try, great job
Bruh. You need a loop switcher like BOSS ES-8 or MUSICOMlab LE fXII. They have stereo outs. Isolated transformer on the right out.
*Also, I made a separate pedal board for loop effects like delay and reverb. In stereo. Watch out for phasing too. I use a Radial Headlight for the front end board.
ALWAYS put the digitech drop first!! Even before the tuner. Even the manual says it.
It gives less latency + if you tune you tune the tuning you down tune to
Great video 🤘Brings back memories of when I did a 3 amp and 3 cab rig for home use using 3 Peavey XXLs and a Morley Tripler. Used one amp as a master and ran the preamp out to the Tripler into the power amp in of the other two amps. The biggest obstacle was dealing with ground loop hum. It was obnoxiously loud and it was hilarious to watch light bulbs rattle out of the sockets. Good times🤘🤘🤘🤘
Haha oh Kyle dude! You were cracking me up! I swear I would’ve done this the same way as you to get a quick setup. I’ll look forward to your rehashed build.
I a, definitely loving the monster sized board!
Bro you need to review the Digitech Drop pedal! That’d be so dope!
No noise reduction?! With those high gain pedals you're running I'd think it would be a must!
I haven't finished yet, but have you ever used a boss ls2 line selector? I feel like it'd be useful for something like this.
Have you ever though of buying a power conditioner for your guitar related stuff ? It's pretty useful to clean up power sources !
Stereo setups are cool because of the selection of one amp or the other, or for layering tones or running wet/dry rigs and other complex things. I find it works best with low to medium output lunchbox amps or same for pedal power amps like the baby bomb 30 you used.
OOOOOOF! THAT GUITAR IS GORGEOUS, DUDE!
Bahahaha this is amazing dude. That pedal board is massive
it's stupidly large, I have no idea how I'm going to transport it without looking like I'm carrying a body in a briefcase
@@belligerentamateur That makes it great for metal gigs 👹
Pre high gain is ideal, but only if you play Shoegaze 😅
As a former 90's East Coast Punk Scene Alumni?!
The statements and claims made around the 16:30 time mark are not only RAD AF, but also true and totally awesome...
Also F'N hilarious BTW!
You just unexpectedly had me LMFAO Kyle! Ha!
Almost shot PBR out my nose! Bwahaha!
That's some seriously top shelf gear content right there my dude!
Haha!
You keep on being freakin' awesome amigo!
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Cheers!
I have a stereo setup on a smaller pedal board. Two Joyo bantamps. I also have a splitter setup in the channel switcher on one of the amps so it's daisy chained for one switcher to switch channels for both amps. It's pretty basic though, otherwise. Just an Eyemaster, gate, and compressor for one amp, and a Joyo distortion pedal and precision drive for the other.
that pedal show belligerent amateur edition hahahaha love it ... i have seen every tps episode ever and i cannot still put a tidy pedalboard too hahahaha
Me either. No matter what I do it’s a mess of cables and wires, so I just go with it. As long as it sounds good and isn’t noisy who cares?
bruh those straight cables hurt my face.
I use a 28 × 16 Trailer Trash pedalboard . I also use the Friedman BE-OD, Solano super lead overdrive , REVV G3,& the Suhr Roit ! Awesome pedals!
I support two powerstage 200. I have two and absolutely love them. I have one through a v30 loaded 2x12 and one through a greenback loaded 2x12. Both cabs are 8 ohm so the powerstage 200 drops to 100 watts. still too much for the greenback cab, but we dont run them loud because my helix and pod go are set up to run to FoH so, the over wattage isnt a huge issue.
Never thought we'd see Kyle with a huge pedal board!
I dig that tweed peavey classic rig back there
"I like to do things the wrong way on purpose." This is why I'm a subscriber.
What about an Orange Terror Stamp (with send and return and speaker sim), 44 Magnum, Baroni Mini Amp Custom 100 watt (stereo), and Carvin Mach 100 (also stereo)? This whole pedal board amp idea has a lot of possibilities.
Do the screws for the pedal riser fit the power supply? And yes my les were getting numb looking at you on the floor.
I love that Soldano Pedal.
I have the Purple one.
I use a 2 amp 2 6x12 rig all the time. I use my G3 from Gigrig to control it all. Sounds amazing.
Oh man, my Motherbrain pedalboard is a giant Gator XL and I use two other large boards and run 4 amps in a stereo wet dry wet dry mix. I am a huge pedal nerd, I would love to build a board with you 😅
1Ground Control is all Synths, filters, wahs, pre filter and wah fuzz pitch and expression pedals, 2Motherbrain is tons of pre mod, comp, fuzzes, ods, HM2sss, SSP loop pedal, volume gate, 3Space Station, all post gain mod and weird, delays and verbs in series and in parallel stereo. Two Amps are run dry with Gates and two clean with high gain preamps and eqs and shit. A volume on the d
space Station board too. I stick a delay after the volume for swell repeats from the wall of verb and delay coming from the other boards. Good to have a volume pedal at the end of any board. I would go with flat ribbon patch cables too
GREY SWEATPANTS.
Cool experiment, I've been running 3 different amps off my pedalboard, just to give you an idea, I run an old Carvin X-50B with 4x12 cab and Marshall JCM800 4010 and Peavey stereo chorus 2x12, vastly different animals. I definitely think there is some kind of ground loop going on, as when you used the "lift" feature it helped. I would honestly try the Cioks DC7 with the 8 power supply and the Earthquaker Swissthings pedal. The Cioks clears up a lot of noise issues, I couldn't be happier with it and way more flexible. The Earthquaker Swissthings pedal has a buffered and unbuffered set of loops. Just some food for thought, absolutely love your content!
I'm not sure if like the Ikea DIY approach.
Get a power conditioner strip.
Looks cool man !
As others are saying, you're having polarity/phase issues running the two amps. I run a stereo rig as my primary rig. Get yourself a radial amp switcher. It has a function to deal with polarity/phase issues. It's worth every penny.
not sure if you saw in the video but I flipped the switches on the radio pedal, it solved the grounding but did not solve the phasing, also I was still getting some very crazy sounds when running either a or b by themselves, so obviously there wouldn't be any phasing there
@Kyle Bull invest in the radial big shot amp switcher. It's about $130 USD.
Hi Kyle, have you done a demo of your Wizard cab with Lynchbacks? Would love to hear how that stacks up against other cabs!
Trial by error is the only way! How does anyone learn, or design otherwise?
Kyle, a pedal shootout with the AMT P lead would be great
Don't support russian shiet
So many things I could say.... keep at it.
A huge problem is that the polarity of the amps are different! Basically when one amp is pushing air the other is pulling, creating that hollow yet very wide sound.
Some gain pedals change the polarity, but it could also be that the amps themselves just created differently.
TLDR; you need a tool that'll let you flip the polarity (often mistakenly called phase) of one side of the setup! EDIT: Actually that is already there on the ABY box. :))
The GigRig Humdinger might be an option for doing that.
Phase is not polarity. Very different things. Everything in his rig is negative ground. One of the amps must be inverting the signal so that the two are out of phase.
It's not called polarity. It's called PHASE.
This is correct. I’ve even found switching channels on one of the amps sends it out of phase or adding a distortion pedal in front changes the phase when clicked on and off. I use a radial switchbone that fixes this issue to a degree.
So when you starting a shoegaze band? Haha
See if can get an SS100 V2 to demo for us
Nice Heritage guitar man.
I can sense the ocd triggering of some viewers through my computer.
You should take that orange you repaired and weld it into the chassis, because why not. Also do they make cases that big?
damn, no Triumph!
That's a nice board ! but since they sent u power supply and buffer unit they should have sent u patch cables as well?..Oh well ,should be a great project though take care man.
The vastly different tones between speakers is making me feel woozy. 🤢
could you have used the riser screws for the power supply?
I tried, they were a different thread size unfortunately
The screws are provided, they are in a small zip lock bag in the box the power supply comes in. I had to look around for them.
You can tell they go to the power supply because they are recessed like the buffer bay. I don't understand though why they had them in the buffer bay but not in the Power supply
its like you're trying to sound bad on purpose lately lol
Get a second power stage and run wet/dry.
Anyone else hear missing, low, or wrong mic audio?
yes, for some reason the Lav mic I was using was cutting out in this video, didn't find out until after the fact.
This video triggered my OCD/anal retentiveness and hurt my head 😩
Why not just use the Tonex pedal?
because I didn't want to
Hook and loop tape? 😂
You mean velcro? Or can you not say “Velcro” without some kind of copyright BS?
very commonly referred to as hook and look tape
@@belligerentamateur I’ve honestly never heard it called that. It obviously makes sense but it’s always been velcro to me
@@adamjones3299 Velcro is a brand
The SLO pedal is not a pre amp and has no pre amp circuit, just an overdrive, and may sound good without a preamp, but I personally would have put a preamp before it. I would just switch the two amps. It is fun to test these different combos though!! Rock on!
I did a full demo on the pedal and was briefed by the company before doing so. It is 100% not an overdrive and is a full blown distortion pedal made to mimic the lead channel of an SLO. it does not need an overdrive to achieve high levels of saturation.
@@belligerentamateur I'll argue that a bit as like it's amp predecessor It's called a Super Lead Overdrive, not distortion, and nowhere on the Soldano site is it called a distortion.It' listed as High Gain.
@@jjgson69 this is literally nonsense.
@@belligerentamateur Also on Mike Soldano's video of the pedal he says it's an overdrive designed to go into a clean channel of an amp.
@@belligerentamateur Well then don't ask us for our comments or opinions. I was just giving you my personal opinion, which I stated above, and the fact's of the pedal as I know them. Yes you can use it however you want....
is that pedalboard woke?