US Army with about 3 years experience on the M60: When firing from the hip (prefered) or shoulder you aim using the tracers or bullet strikes. But it is an area support wepon.
+Gregory Heim THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY POINT ... the new army is not getting trained will at all ... what was your MOS my was 19D with 18X.... THANK YOU
the truth behind that myth is: They've used it a lot in a Battlefield game, or have watched a lot of Forgotten Weapons videos so they're now a bona fide firearms expert.
@Greg Alman @Replete Replete it doesn't take a genius to tell that firing a M60 from the hip is not going to be accurate at all... the foldable bipod was made to be used
Do you even realize how many veterans there are in the world? it's not unrealistic to think some might be watching videos on youtube, especially given the thumbnail.
@@LinkinPark4Ever1996 you're missing the point. A bunch of people will chime in claiming personal experience with the weapon. They're saying people on the internet lie. BTW I'm an astronaut.
Discovery, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE ALL THE MYTHBUSTERS VIDEOS. There are so many that are missing: Ultimate Mythbuster, Boarding a Plane, Mythbuster vs Jaws, hitting the fruit stand, and ON and ON. You could make a lot of money off us fans, for pity sake!
We were trained not to shoulder fire the M60. It's just a ridiculous thing to do, there is no control, no accuracy and you're actually a liability on the battle field not to mention the waste of ammunition. It has a bi-pod for a very good reason and soldiers are trained to use it. The accuracy of the M60 is actually very good when fired form a supported position. That said has someone shoulder fired an M60 in a live fire mission? Most certainly, probably due to a desperate situation, but the correct action is to drop to a supported position and set up a sector of fire and suppress the enemy. Not go Rambo, as it was termed in the military.
+William Hayden I have not been trained with the M60 but I'm a former FN MAG gunner. We were taught how to shoot while standing and kneeling by using the carrying sling (correct term?) to keep the FN in place (at hip-height). Those positions were only used when you needed a lot of lead in the air and didn't have the time to use the bi-pod. Shooting from the shoulder while standing was/is a big nono though. //from Sweden
***** Check out "Forgotten Weapons". Ian also has video on the "M60" and goes into it's history, use and function. Very good watch if you are interested. Thanks for the response.
+William Hayden We trained whit the mg3 (firing 7,62 x 51 mm NATO) We where also trained to fire in a prone position. also we were told to fire in rapid bursts and not full auto.
Who is "we" when you say "we weren't trained..."? The government training does not have the time to teach machine gunners to fire from the shoulder. A good machine gunner would learn this on his own, as it may be needed someday. Shoulder firing an M60 can be, and IS very effective with the proper understanding of biomechanics, recoil mitigation, and practice.
animalmother556x45 Ummm, you sound like you don't know what you are talking about. Correct, when I said "we" I am specifically speaking of soldiers in the United States Army. To say the "government" doesn't have time to teach machine gunners anything in the least shoulder fire is absurd. Again you speak like you have no clue what a soldier does from day to day depending on their job. You think soldiers are untrained? We were specifically trained NOT to fire the M60 from the shoulder. Clear enough? Good moving on.
never fired the m60, but my brother was in the national guard and he said that squad automatic weapons aren't always meant to "hit" enemies, just make them fear for their lives enough to limit their options. Suppressive fire is, ultimately something that's supposed to make the other guy feel like he's nowhere to go, and make them forget that staying put can be suicide.
Until someone sends something bigger at them. I agree. I think most of these people arguing about the m60 on here are legitimately unaware of what cover fire is for and which weapons are used to initiate cover fire.
My father was in Vietnam, and during his tour, they would rotate who carried the M60 in his platoon. When the weapon was assigned to him, he described it as "I did not have an M60, I was *with* and M60." In that sense, it was more like a partner, rather than an object. I once asked why, considering the weight and difficulty using it, was it his favorite weapon. "Because you feel like God, at 500 rounds per minute."
+kev3d From what I understand most gunners had the same outlook when talking about the 60, but usually because you had to hump the fucking thing like a wife or girlfriend lol
to whoever is asking about where to get m60's, talk to a FFL holder (Federal Firearms License). this licenses you as a legal firearms merchant, capable of presiding over firearms transfers. There is generally a fee on top of the value of the firearm as well as the cost of the FBI background check. FFL holders can be found on the internet and there are actually quite a few of them.
The best way to aim is watch the tracer rounds.I carried one for 10 months, you might open fire standing, but drop to ground and fire from bi-pod ,plus you are less of a target.
Anyone with a clean record and a crap load of money can buy a machine gun....assuming you can find someone willing to sell one at a price you are happy with. Plus, you have to pay the government some fees for permission to own one.
Also, when firing the M60 (I had an M60E3) from the TRI-POD, you had to use "forward shoulder pressure". That means you pressed your firing shoulder forward to take up slack in the Traverse and Elevation mechanism. When I was in we actually transitioned from the M60E3 to the M240G. The M240G used a "soft mount" That means it had little shock absorbers on the pintle mount. You did not have to use forward shoulder pressure to get a nice tight "beaten zone".
I'm no M-60 expert, and I know that lmg operators are very accurate with their system. but Lmgs in general are used for the suppressive capability to sling rounds down rang at a high rate of fire so hitting a spot over and over again isn't needed you just need to get the rounds close to your target.
Since i'm from Colombia where updated episodes of DC shows don't come in unless dubbed (and the latest season of MB I actually watched was season 8 (snif)) I went "Holly Cr*p!" when I saw that boat blowing up. Amazing. Keep up the good work guys.
***** I know. The aftershows and the season/chapter trailers are my only breath of fresh air. Is a sad ting that here only comes dubbed and has been repeating chapters of every show for the last 5 years.
Large caliber crew served weapons like that are not meant to be shoulder fired. However the thing to remember as well is they are not typically used as point target weapons either. They are more of a area target used for suppression.
I can't say anything about the M60, but I can about a MK48 and 249. The 249 is completely controllable when firing from the shoulder while standing. A collapsible butt-stock(as opposed to the full length 'pog' butt-stock) and foregrip helps a lot, but it is 100% controllable when standing if you know how to handle the recoil. Given, we are not talking about point fire, but a reasonable beaten area at moderate-close range. The weight of the gun tames the 5.56 recoil a lot. The MK48 has quite a bit more recoil, and I would assume it is close to an M60 with a slightly higher rate of fire but it is not unmanageable in short bursts. With that said, laying the gun on the ground or some other support turns both from 'meh', to tack drivers if you have a good gunner. The 240 is so ludicrously front heavy and awkward that firing from anything other than mounted or prone is only good for immediate suppression when you can't properly deploy or are just trying to immediately hose hate onto bad people from a short distance.
No LMG is suposed to be held like in cod or bf... use bipod or put it top of a log or something. Machine gun isn't a sniper. It is used for "spray" fire giving support and devastating fire over a large area
Janusz Smoła While this is true, in action soldiers will actually set the gun down to reload it, unlike CoD and BF (a process that can take thirty seconds or more in a firefight).
Accuracy and suppressive fire comes from the stability of the gun and short 3-5 round bursts. So best position would be the gun down on a bi-pod or resting on a sandbag. Shooting on the move is unlikely with a platform like this as they are heavy and inaccurate. When the gun group moves, everyone else lays down suppressive fire.
What basically happened on the full-scale "blow-it-out-of-the-water" experiment was the same thing that happens with highly energetic phenomena across the universe such as quasars and the death throes of a star that's collapsing into a black hole: that is... jetting. Whenever an explosion encounters uneven resistance, it will always be shaped according to the path of least resistance: In the case of a collapsing star, that path would be the star's north and south rotational poles -- as those are where the star will be at its thinnest. Therefore, as the envelope of a star whose core has become a black hole blows out, just about all of the blast's energy gets directed into polar jets. The same thing happened with the full-scale experiment. In this case, the path of least resistance was "into the air". Therefore, the boat was split in two by the resulting jet of water and gases. In the case of a quasar, the paths of least resistance are an active galactic nucleus's north and south poles -- exactly perpendicular to the galactic plane (which is most resistant to the quasar because there is so much more gas and dust in those directions than perpendicular to the plane). Yes, that's right! The same phenomenon that occurs in collapsars (collapsing stars whose cores have become black holes) and quasars occurred in the full-scale "blow it out of the water" experiment!
I think that's funny, Jamie asks what a person with combat experience would say about aiming a M-60, I can 100% guarantee you they would very condescendingly say "you see those two little legs dangling at the front? lay down on the ground and use those ya walrus!" XD
The m60 is an LMG and is ment to be fired from a prone position with the guns bipod or from a trench or foxhole. Also you are supposed to fire all LMGs in burst no more than 10 rounds so in combat the firearm won't heat up and destroy the barrel
To answer Jamie's question, a lot of the time, they will be in a fixed position or vehicle mounted when it comes to "machine guns" ie: crew served weapons (this would include the m60 or 240), sometimes they can be used by a single dismounted/mobile person, however most of the time it would be shot from the prone, in the rare instances someone may be firing dismounted and standing it would be likely with small bursts while shouldering the weapon. So to answer the question you usually wouldn't be shooting it in a much less wieldy position. I dont want to speak for other units, because Im sure there are some 0351's that probably have humped it around (and one Marine in my platoon did a 10 mile dismounted patrol with a 240) however most dismounted patrols in my experiences in Iraq we would typically not have a crew served machine gun in the patrol, as most of our patrols were only a fireteam (4-6 people including me). Instead we would have an "automatic rifle" which was a m249. I think technically the 249 is supposed to be crew served, but we would always run them with a single rifleman, typically with a 249, spare barrel, and 600-1000 rounds of linked 556. While to most people the 249 may seem like a machine gun, it falls under the definition of auto-rifle and is a much easier automatic weapon to control and much more mobile and even though it may not have the effective range of a "machine gun" it can be much more practical for small units and other situations. Also while the 249 can be shot more easily from the standing, the money maker position is still going to be prone. Hope thats a little bit of insight.
+cris rose Well... not quite. Suppression fire? Sure. Killing power? Maybe, if you manage to catch them off guard when you're set up, with a bi/tripod with assistance, or makeshift support with even more assistance. It's not the Fallout franchise's Fatman.
I remember watching this episode when it first aired and being upset that they used the wrong Cadillac for their trunk rig. Not because the results were any different, but because it was a nice car. Breaking Bad used one of those ugly boxy Cadillacs introduced in '77 (a style they kept around on certain models even into the '90s). You could shoot up a dozen of those and I wouldn't care. But MythBusters used the previous more attractive body style that was only around for a few years (and which was a much nicer vehicle, both then and now).
hey here you go was a gunner for 50 cal. , M 60 and , 240 B ..it is so eseay to aim and fire the M 60 from the shoulder 3-4 round bust you can 1-2 round bust also .. one handed . spray air like a shot gun . the 60 is better than 240 B ... the 240 B is better one vehicle ..
+Serendra Hardu ; My range .i sign for. it my .. how i fig it out talk to some old from WW l ,WW ll ,Korean war and Vietnam war ..all M2 gunner talk about it in a last O SIT time ..there is 2 way doing it .. will 3rd but not good to hard and not safe .. 1) one shot 2) will that my trick a cunning or skillful act or scheme intended to deceive... the 101st Air borne still trying to fig how i hump M2 10 click all of this was done on a dare the 101st said that all of this CAN't BE DONE ... I WON ... all in all it is not a safe thing to do . was younger in my 20's scout out
There is no fucking way you can fire a Ma deuce from the hip without fucking yourself up in the process. First of all it's a godamn butterfly trigger so there isn't a way to hold the thing to get it to fire while holding it in a hip brace position, not that you'd want that fucker going off right next to your kidney... The 60 is garbage compared to the 240B Far more reliable and less likely to tear your face off or run away. Go back to COD.
the '' Pig'' M60 LMG is ' aimed' with a 'cone of fire' that is the term. that is the way it is done. with 6-9 round bursts. more accurate on the bipod ( pushed forward to take up the slack) or tripod. but we never had time to do that. unless is was defensive and that was rare. 23 ibs bare. called the Pig cause of its weight. 7.4 lbs per 100rounds box of ammo. we carried about seven boxes. and every body in the squad would carry a box. '' Hump the Pig!''' love it . Have a nice day
dirtzoo Pienimusta.. makes a comment. he is getting his expert opinion from a video game. i carried that fucker for three years. i think i know a bit about it.
I am possibly late to help answer the question put forward about the machine gun by Jamie but there is something in the military called Machine Gun Theory. This fully explains how this weapon system is not a point target system but an area target system they are designed not to shoot a straight line but in a cone to land into what is known as a beaten zone. that being said if you had mounted the weapon system to a tripod and or just used the bipod in the prone position you would have effectively made the system much more accurate to aim and fire. That is purly because the system is not ment to be held like that and fired accurately when firing like that is not about accuracy but to simply put more lead down range to provide suppressing fire and keep the enemy head down. once again somebody may have answered this already but this is my personal experience with these weapon systems and a vast amount of others.
+Corristo89 A bullet only has to come within 1 meter of someone for the psychological effects to really kick in (a loud whipcrack from the sonic boom of the bullet) and make the dude hit the dirt shitting his pants. That's what machine guns are for.
My comment on the actual episode on some of the gun ignorance displayed by the writers: "So many gun errors. I'm sure the narrator doesn't write his own script, but, SOMEONE with a brain should check the words used. It's "cute" to refer to any gun as "heavy artillery" but it is absolutely incorrect. A machinegun is not artillery - heavy, light or whatever. At about 7:45, the narrator says, "for safety, he's going to start slow by not going full auto..." Uhhh, yes he was firing on auto. He was just firing in automatic by using bursts (the normal way to fire a machinegun) as opposed to one long continuous burst. Then at 8:30 and again 9:30 the word "tripod" is used in place of "bipod". Tri = 3 (you know, like a tricycle has 3 wheels) and bi means 2 Sheesh, that's all in the first 10 minutes!"
@Jamie I was assigned this weapon while in the 25th Infantry Division and fired thousands of rounds through the M-60. We rarely fired more than a burst 3 to 5 rounds "roughly" at a time. In general, we fire in the prone position with the bi-pod or tripod, if you have time to set it up. They make for a much more stable platform then free handing the weapon. At times the belt will twist or bind if not properly supported complicating the feeding of the weapon in a shoot and move situation. Practice makes perfect, shooting the M-60 you learn how to handle it and compensate for the recoil and also manage the belted ammo if you need to move often. The M-60 had it;s flaws but over all satisfying to shoot even at extreme ranges out to 1100 meters.
Jamie, you had the rear sight on your M60 folded down....from the shoulder the weapon is not very effective....off the bipod with the shooter in a prone position with the rear sight in the upward position so you can aim the weapon .. you have the power of god in your hands.
samdiego Yeah when making choices on how to tackle a myth, that is in work space where everything is very much open to interpretation, that is still not the same as "not being able to stand each other".
In a rapidly evolving situation, you aim by watching the impacts. The same as a garden hose. Tracers help, but then everyone knows your position, so a lot of people remove the tracers from a belt. In an ambush or overwatch situation, the sights work just like any other firearm, and you use short controlled bursts.
Honestly ... watching them blow up stuff right in front of a whole wall of boxes seems stupid. Get an empty room for such experiments! Using plastic boats seems rather stupid too, because they wont have the stability of regular large scale boats. Also: as usual they use far too much explosives, so there is no science involved.
Surprised they didn't use the bi-pod but eh oh well. Still though gotta love all the military guys all commenting the same thing. Don't care for all the disrespect some of them are giving to other people. Would hope they would have a bit more respect than that. Yeah we get it you're supposed to firing from down low on the bi-pod, but i mean warzones aren't the kind of place where you have all the time in the world to do whatever you want. Better to know how to shoulder fire, or hip fire if you're using tracers, and not need it than to need to and not be able to. Life doesn't always allow for supposed to.
Dude from your comment you obviously aren't military and you say you've seen the comments from the guys in the military who operated the m-60 say that it is strictly a in cover supported fire gun so why would you say that war does not allow you to do use the weapon how you are supposed to when I'm sure plenty of the former military members have seen service and had to use their m-60 while under fire it doesn't make any sense why you would try to refute their statements
How are these guys so smart but then shoot an M60 from the shoulder and complain about it hurting? This is real life, not Arnold Schwarzenegger movie...
Had the chance to fire both the Vietnam M60 (seen here) and the later E3, which had a slower RPM and a optic rail on it. It’s a general purpose machine gun and it’s probably best to shoot it using the bipod.
M60 point it in the direction you want to shoot and keep it held down. Don't worry about the bruises, I assure you the guy down range is fairing far worse.
"it made the cement truck go away" -I like how you phrased that
US Army with about 3 years experience on the M60:
When firing from the hip (prefered) or shoulder you aim using the tracers or bullet strikes. But it is an area support wepon.
+Gregory Heim THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY POINT ... the new army is not getting trained will at all ... what was your MOS my was 19D with 18X.... THANK YOU
+bryan kisner 11B
Happy New Year : thank you again
They don't train with it because they have better systems now
Gregory Heim well... thank you for ur service!
It's amazing how many people on RUclips used to be gunners and carried the M-60 ;)
the truth behind that myth is: They've used it a lot in a Battlefield game, or have watched a lot of Forgotten Weapons videos so they're now a bona fide firearms expert.
@Greg Alman @Replete Replete
it doesn't take a genius to tell that firing a M60 from the hip is not going to be accurate at all... the foldable bipod was made to be used
Do you even realize how many veterans there are in the world? it's not unrealistic to think some might be watching videos on youtube, especially given the thumbnail.
@@LinkinPark4Ever1996 you're missing the point. A bunch of people will chime in claiming personal experience with the weapon. They're saying people on the internet lie. BTW I'm an astronaut.
@@JohnSmith-im8qt no I think you missed the point of what they said actually, lol.
Woosh
"made the cement truck go away" that line killed me with laughter
Discovery, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE ALL THE MYTHBUSTERS VIDEOS. There are so many that are missing: Ultimate Mythbuster, Boarding a Plane, Mythbuster vs Jaws, hitting the fruit stand, and ON and ON. You could make a lot of money off us fans, for pity sake!
We were trained not to shoulder fire the M60. It's just a ridiculous thing to do, there is no control, no accuracy and you're actually a liability on the battle field not to mention the waste of ammunition. It has a bi-pod for a very good reason and soldiers are trained to use it. The accuracy of the M60 is actually very good when fired form a supported position. That said has someone shoulder fired an M60 in a live fire mission? Most certainly, probably due to a desperate situation, but the correct action is to drop to a supported position and set up a sector of fire and suppress the enemy. Not go Rambo, as it was termed in the military.
+William Hayden
I have not been trained with the M60 but I'm a former FN MAG gunner.
We were taught how to shoot while standing and kneeling by using the carrying sling (correct term?) to keep the FN in place (at hip-height). Those positions were only used when you needed a lot of lead in the air and didn't have the time to use the bi-pod.
Shooting from the shoulder while standing was/is a big nono though.
//from Sweden
***** Check out "Forgotten Weapons". Ian also has video on the "M60" and goes into it's history, use and function. Very good watch if you are interested.
Thanks for the response.
+William Hayden We trained whit the mg3 (firing 7,62 x 51 mm NATO) We where also trained to fire in a prone position. also we were told to fire in rapid bursts and not full auto.
Who is "we" when you say "we weren't trained..."? The government training does not have the time to teach machine gunners to fire from the shoulder. A good machine gunner would learn this on his own, as it may be needed someday. Shoulder firing an M60 can be, and IS very effective with the proper understanding of biomechanics, recoil mitigation, and practice.
animalmother556x45 Ummm, you sound like you don't know what you are talking about. Correct, when I said "we" I am specifically speaking of soldiers in the United States Army. To say the "government" doesn't have time to teach machine gunners anything in the least shoulder fire is absurd. Again you speak like you have no clue what a soldier does from day to day depending on their job. You think soldiers are untrained? We were specifically trained NOT to fire the M60 from the shoulder. Clear enough? Good moving on.
never fired the m60, but my brother was in the national guard and he said that squad automatic weapons aren't always meant to "hit" enemies, just make them fear for their lives enough to limit their options. Suppressive fire is, ultimately something that's supposed to make the other guy feel like he's nowhere to go, and make them forget that staying put can be suicide.
Until someone sends something bigger at them.
I agree.
I think most of these people arguing about the m60 on here are legitimately unaware of what cover fire is for and which weapons are used to initiate cover fire.
My father was in Vietnam, and during his tour, they would rotate who carried the M60 in his platoon. When the weapon was assigned to him, he described it as "I did not have an M60, I was *with* and M60." In that sense, it was more like a partner, rather than an object. I once asked why, considering the weight and difficulty using it, was it his favorite weapon.
"Because you feel like God, at 500 rounds per minute."
+kev3d Actually the m16 shoots more per minute than that, but with a smaller projectile of course.
+cj spicy And an M-16 isn't belt fed.
+kev3d From what I understand most gunners had the same outlook when talking about the 60, but usually because you had to hump the fucking thing like a wife or girlfriend lol
Actually... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_63
Jamie giggling and going straight back to serious is hilarious and scary
to whoever is asking about where to get m60's, talk to a FFL holder (Federal Firearms License). this licenses you as a legal firearms merchant, capable of presiding over firearms transfers. There is generally a fee on top of the value of the firearm as well as the cost of the FBI background check. FFL holders can be found on the internet and there are actually quite a few of them.
The best way to aim is watch the tracer rounds.I carried one for 10 months, you might open fire standing, but drop to ground and fire from bi-pod ,plus you are less of a target.
Anyone with a clean record and a crap load of money can buy a machine gun....assuming you can find someone willing to sell one at a price you are happy with.
Plus, you have to pay the government some fees for permission to own one.
Navy could create a whole new commando team just for special operator Jamie.. Out with the Seal teams, in with the Walrus's!
Also, when firing the M60 (I had an M60E3) from the TRI-POD, you had to use "forward shoulder pressure". That means you pressed your firing shoulder forward to take up slack in the Traverse and Elevation mechanism. When I was in we actually transitioned from the M60E3 to the M240G. The M240G used a "soft mount" That means it had little shock absorbers on the pintle mount. You did not have to use forward shoulder pressure to get a nice tight "beaten zone".
+RUBIZEN "Beaten zone"... I think I watched that in a motel one night.
Me too! Then "The Blob" right?
1:35 😍 I’m so glad you said that
I'm no M-60 expert, and I know that lmg operators are very accurate with their system. but Lmgs in general are used for the suppressive capability to sling rounds down rang at a high rate of fire so hitting a spot over and over again isn't needed you just need to get the rounds close to your target.
Since i'm from Colombia where updated episodes of DC shows don't come in unless dubbed (and the latest season of MB I actually watched was season 8 (snif)) I went "Holly Cr*p!" when I saw that boat blowing up.
Amazing. Keep up the good work guys.
*****
I know. The aftershows and the season/chapter trailers are my only breath of fresh air. Is a sad ting that here only comes dubbed and has been repeating chapters of every show for the last 5 years.
Large caliber crew served weapons like that are not meant to be shoulder fired. However the thing to remember as well is they are not typically used as point target weapons either. They are more of a area target used for suppression.
That explosion is big enough spilt a battleship in half like jesus christ
I can't say anything about the M60, but I can about a MK48 and 249. The 249 is completely controllable when firing from the shoulder while standing. A collapsible butt-stock(as opposed to the full length 'pog' butt-stock) and foregrip helps a lot, but it is 100% controllable when standing if you know how to handle the recoil. Given, we are not talking about point fire, but a reasonable beaten area at moderate-close range. The weight of the gun tames the 5.56 recoil a lot. The MK48 has quite a bit more recoil, and I would assume it is close to an M60 with a slightly higher rate of fire but it is not unmanageable in short bursts. With that said, laying the gun on the ground or some other support turns both from 'meh', to tack drivers if you have a good gunner. The 240 is so ludicrously front heavy and awkward that firing from anything other than mounted or prone is only good for immediate suppression when you can't properly deploy or are just trying to immediately hose hate onto bad people from a short distance.
No LMG is suposed to be held like in cod or bf... use bipod or put it top of a log or something. Machine gun isn't a sniper. It is used for "spray" fire giving support and devastating fire over a large area
Pienimusta Sniper M60s :P
The M60 is more like an MMG or GPMG.
Would consider anything under .50cal or 12.7mm (or something like that ) a "Light" machine gun ^^
+Pienimusta Actually M60E3 doesn't really need bipod and can be used like in cod or bf.
Janusz Smoła
While this is true, in action soldiers will actually set the gun down to reload it, unlike CoD and BF (a process that can take thirty seconds or more in a firefight).
Jamie with a machine gun brought me here.
Accuracy and suppressive fire comes from the stability of the gun and short 3-5 round bursts. So best position would be the gun down on a bi-pod or resting on a sandbag. Shooting on the move is unlikely with a platform like this as they are heavy and inaccurate. When the gun group moves, everyone else lays down suppressive fire.
Never not shoot an m60
short controlled burst are the best chances to get the most acccuracy out of the weapon
You aren't a sharpshooter with a m60. You suppress and cover area. just lay down fire, if you hit something, that's great.
What basically happened on the full-scale "blow-it-out-of-the-water" experiment was the same thing that happens with highly energetic phenomena across the universe such as quasars and the death throes of a star that's collapsing into a black hole: that is... jetting. Whenever an explosion encounters uneven resistance, it will always be shaped according to the path of least resistance: In the case of a collapsing star, that path would be the star's north and south rotational poles -- as those are where the star will be at its thinnest. Therefore, as the envelope of a star whose core has become a black hole blows out, just about all of the blast's energy gets directed into polar jets. The same thing happened with the full-scale experiment. In this case, the path of least resistance was "into the air". Therefore, the boat was split in two by the resulting jet of water and gases. In the case of a quasar, the paths of least resistance are an active galactic nucleus's north and south poles -- exactly perpendicular to the galactic plane (which is most resistant to the quasar because there is so much more gas and dust in those directions than perpendicular to the plane). Yes, that's right! The same phenomenon that occurs in collapsars (collapsing stars whose cores have become black holes) and quasars occurred in the full-scale "blow it out of the water" experiment!
I think that's funny, Jamie asks what a person with combat experience would say about aiming a M-60, I can 100% guarantee you they would very condescendingly say "you see those two little legs dangling at the front? lay down on the ground and use those ya walrus!" XD
Bipod, then burst and tracers
The m60 is an LMG and is ment to be fired from a prone position with the guns bipod or from a trench or foxhole. Also you are supposed to fire all LMGs in burst no more than 10 rounds so in combat the firearm won't heat up and destroy the barrel
fire the wepon in short bursts. It increases accuracy and avoids overheating
To answer Jamie's question, a lot of the time, they will be in a fixed position or vehicle mounted when it comes to "machine guns" ie: crew served weapons (this would include the m60 or 240), sometimes they can be used by a single dismounted/mobile person, however most of the time it would be shot from the prone, in the rare instances someone may be firing dismounted and standing it would be likely with small bursts while shouldering the weapon. So to answer the question you usually wouldn't be shooting it in a much less wieldy position.
I dont want to speak for other units, because Im sure there are some 0351's that probably have humped it around (and one Marine in my platoon did a 10 mile dismounted patrol with a 240) however most dismounted patrols in my experiences in Iraq we would typically not have a crew served machine gun in the patrol, as most of our patrols were only a fireteam (4-6 people including me). Instead we would have an "automatic rifle" which was a m249. I think technically the 249 is supposed to be crew served, but we would always run them with a single rifleman, typically with a 249, spare barrel, and 600-1000 rounds of linked 556. While to most people the 249 may seem like a machine gun, it falls under the definition of auto-rifle and is a much easier automatic weapon to control and much more mobile and even though it may not have the effective range of a "machine gun" it can be much more practical for small units and other situations. Also while the 249 can be shot more easily from the standing, the money maker position is still going to be prone. Hope thats a little bit of insight.
you don't aim that gun...you just point it in a direction and everything dies.
+cris rose Well... not quite. Suppression fire? Sure. Killing power? Maybe, if you manage to catch them off guard when you're set up, with a bi/tripod with assistance, or makeshift support with even more assistance. It's not the Fallout franchise's Fatman.
NinjaLayor okay. i wasn't being serious.
cris rose
Ah. Alright. To be honest, nothing like levity to make one's day.
I remember watching this episode when it first aired and being upset that they used the wrong Cadillac for their trunk rig. Not because the results were any different, but because it was a nice car. Breaking Bad used one of those ugly boxy Cadillacs introduced in '77 (a style they kept around on certain models even into the '90s). You could shoot up a dozen of those and I wouldn't care. But MythBusters used the previous more attractive body style that was only around for a few years (and which was a much nicer vehicle, both then and now).
Mythbusters needs to be put on Blu-ray in its entirety.
Stop running ads that don't work on mobile!
hey here you go was a gunner for 50 cal. , M 60 and , 240 B ..it is so eseay to aim and fire the M 60 from the shoulder 3-4 round bust you can 1-2 round bust also .. one handed . spray air like a shot gun . the 60 is better than 240 B ... the 240 B is better one vehicle ..
+bryan kisner when you do the 50 from the hip let know if done wrong it will kill you or mess you up bad lot of tack to do it yep
+bryan kisner You shot an M2 from the hip? How the hell did they let you do that?
+Serendra Hardu ; My range .i sign for. it my .. how i fig it out talk to some old from WW l ,WW ll ,Korean war and Vietnam war ..all M2 gunner talk about it in a last O SIT time ..there is 2 way doing it .. will 3rd but not good to hard and not safe .. 1) one shot 2) will that my trick a cunning or skillful act or scheme intended to deceive... the 101st Air borne still trying to fig how i hump M2 10 click all of this was done on a dare the 101st said that all of this CAN't BE DONE ... I WON ... all in all it is not a safe thing to do . was younger in my 20's scout out
There is no fucking way you can fire a Ma deuce from the hip without fucking yourself up in the process. First of all it's a godamn butterfly trigger so there isn't a way to hold the thing to get it to fire while holding it in a hip brace position, not that you'd want that fucker going off right next to your kidney...
The 60 is garbage compared to the 240B Far more reliable and less likely to tear your face off or run away. Go back to COD.
the '' Pig'' M60 LMG is ' aimed' with a 'cone of fire' that is the term. that is the way it is done. with 6-9 round bursts. more accurate on the bipod ( pushed forward to take up the slack) or tripod. but we never had time to do that. unless is was defensive and that was rare. 23 ibs bare. called the Pig cause of its weight. 7.4 lbs per 100rounds box of ammo. we carried about seven boxes. and every body in the squad would carry a box. '' Hump the Pig!''' love it . Have a nice day
dirtzoo i like all these ' experts' that never even picked up a gun...'' hahahah
dirtzoo Pienimusta.. makes a comment. he is getting his expert opinion from a video game. i carried that fucker for three years. i think i know a bit about it.
Made the cement truck go away? Well that's one way of putting it, I suppose.
Short answer you don't.
It's a suppression gun not spray and pray
What license? I didn’t get a license. I got a tax stamp.
You lean forwards and watch where the tracers go in short bursts
3:20 I think they get on the ground.
6:26, awww, why?
I am possibly late to help answer the question put forward about the machine gun by Jamie but there is something in the military called Machine Gun Theory. This fully explains how this weapon system is not a point target system but an area target system they are designed not to shoot a straight line but in a cone to land into what is known as a beaten zone. that being said if you had mounted the weapon system to a tripod and or just used the bipod in the prone position you would have effectively made the system much more accurate to aim and fire. That is purly because the system is not ment to be held like that and fired accurately when firing like that is not about accuracy but to simply put more lead down range to provide suppressing fire and keep the enemy head down. once again somebody may have answered this already but this is my personal experience with these weapon systems and a vast amount of others.
2:45 walrus is Rambo confirmed
One word: Tracers. Watch those suckers and screw the iron sights. Those are OK for short bursts, but pointless for everything else.
+Corristo89 A bullet only has to come within 1 meter of someone for the psychological effects to really kick in (a loud whipcrack from the sonic boom of the bullet) and make the dude hit the dirt shitting his pants. That's what machine guns are for.
My dads friend was an M60 gunner in Vietnam.
friartuck103 Good for you.
My comment on the actual episode on some of the gun ignorance displayed by the writers: "So many gun errors. I'm sure the narrator doesn't write his own script, but, SOMEONE with a brain should check the words used. It's "cute" to refer to any gun as "heavy artillery" but it is absolutely incorrect. A machinegun is not artillery - heavy, light or whatever. At about 7:45, the narrator says, "for safety, he's going to start slow by not going full auto..." Uhhh, yes he was firing on auto. He was just firing in automatic by using bursts (the normal way to fire a machinegun) as opposed to one long continuous burst. Then at 8:30 and again 9:30 the word "tripod" is used in place of "bipod". Tri = 3 (you know, like a tricycle has 3 wheels) and bi means 2 Sheesh, that's all in the first 10 minutes!"
Accuracy is overrated, but with with enough firepower you can always make them keep their heads down
@Jamie I was assigned this weapon while in the 25th Infantry Division and fired thousands of rounds through the M-60. We rarely fired more than a burst 3 to 5 rounds "roughly" at a time. In general, we fire in the prone position with the bi-pod or tripod, if you have time to set it up. They make for a much more stable platform then free handing the weapon. At times the belt will twist or bind if not properly supported complicating the feeding of the weapon in a shoot and move situation. Practice makes perfect, shooting the M-60 you learn how to handle it and compensate for the recoil and also manage the belted ammo if you need to move often. The M-60 had it;s flaws but over all satisfying to shoot even at extreme ranges out to 1100 meters.
Jamie, you had the rear sight on your M60 folded down....from the shoulder the weapon is not very effective....off the bipod with the shooter in a prone position with the rear sight in the upward position so you can aim the weapon .. you have the power of god in your hands.
Not once did they address the fact that they didn't use an armored craft. Scared.
hold and aim it from your waist (no, never dont it on battlefield done it in Thailand)
U can guess who would go to navy SEAL xD
Its crazy to think that these two guys can't stand each other in real life
+samdiego its also not true, not being friends and not hanging out outside of work time is not the same as "can't stand each other".
+Decenium he said that they constantly drive each other batty
samdiego Yeah when making choices on how to tackle a myth, that is in work space where everything is very much open to interpretation, that is still not the same as "not being able to stand each other".
Mythbusters needs to do a new episode about the "do Adam and Jamie hate each other" myth.
Jamie is great
the only way to aim an M60 is on the ground with a tripod stand and someone kneeling on you to keep you steady, otherwise it may as well be an UZI
Not really. it is so heavy that if you can carry it the weight will counter the recoil and you can actually fire it fairly accurate.
3:25 you wanna know how to aim. you don't
i would of thought they held the bipod to help keep the gun level
Questions on the M60? Well, you could ask Animal Mother FMJ...
The m60 jammed a lot. Not surprised from the pig
wheres the tracer rounds?
Being a bomb tech, it's really cool to hear adam say he'd want to do my job. That's really cool guys.
red yellow green or blue?
@@bradhaines3142 Rainbow obviously
@@suppersdinner119 ive never seen that wire
I've never seen Breaking Bad.
+Mirandorl You shod check it out. Not every one likes it just almost every one :)
Zampther Thanks :)
+Zampther There's something wrong with you if you don't like that show lol.. One of the best shows ever made
***** I was talking to Zampther, he said that not everyone like's the show.. Keep up.
Same
Breaking bad is the greatest show ever
Jamie U don't aim an M60 U point and spray and pray
Jamie the answer is that you don't hold it! Haha! You lay on the ground and fire it. You might fire your first rounds standing if you are ambushed.
In a rapidly evolving situation, you aim by watching the impacts. The same as a garden hose.
Tracers help, but then everyone knows your position, so a lot of people remove the tracers from a belt.
In an ambush or overwatch situation, the sights work just like any other firearm, and you use short controlled bursts.
What happened to the white balance in this one?
Honestly ... watching them blow up stuff right in front of a whole wall of boxes seems stupid. Get an empty room for such experiments!
Using plastic boats seems rather stupid too, because they wont have the stability of regular large scale boats.
Also: as usual they use far too much explosives, so there is no science involved.
Surprised they didn't use the bi-pod but eh oh well. Still though gotta love all the military guys all commenting the same thing. Don't care for all the disrespect some of them are giving to other people. Would hope they would have a bit more respect than that. Yeah we get it you're supposed to firing from down low on the bi-pod, but i mean warzones aren't the kind of place where you have all the time in the world to do whatever you want. Better to know how to shoulder fire, or hip fire if you're using tracers, and not need it than to need to and not be able to. Life doesn't always allow for supposed to.
Dude from your comment you obviously aren't military and you say you've seen the comments from the guys in the military who operated the m-60 say that it is strictly a in cover supported fire gun so why would you say that war does not allow you to do use the weapon how you are supposed to when I'm sure plenty of the former military members have seen service and had to use their m-60 while under fire it doesn't make any sense why you would try to refute their statements
TheGoober2100 Because I know my way around a firearm and those guys are acting very unprofessional and unlike a soldier.
Much easier to shoot it in small bursts
How are these guys so smart but then shoot an M60 from the shoulder and complain about it hurting? This is real life, not Arnold Schwarzenegger movie...
A boat can be blown out of the water with a WATER SPOUT!!
JUST SAYING!!
machine guns +tax stamp = you can own them go to vegas lots of them
Why does the video look like Harry Potter and the halfblood pronce?
Had the chance to fire both the Vietnam M60 (seen here) and the later E3, which had a slower RPM and a optic rail on it. It’s a general purpose machine gun and it’s probably best to shoot it using the bipod.
I haven't watched' one these show's In ten years.. Jamie looks as If his had a nerves break down... And Adam's age'd 20 year's...
5-8 round bursts. Walk your rounds into the target...
M60 point it in the direction you want to shoot and keep it held down. Don't worry about the bruises, I assure you the guy down range is fairing far worse.
Short aimed bursts of 3-4 rounds.
i don't think aiming is a paramount goal with an m60.
m60 is a suppressions weapon not really intended for precice aiming
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